JINJER Pisces Live Session Napalm Records - Our Reaction -Suesueandthewolfman

Well, this was unexpected but so interestingly done! Would like to know more about Jinjer and what else they do. #jinjer #jinjerreaction

[@chriso6719]

Welcome back to the channel, Jeff. Good to see you. They are from Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. Her name is Tatiana , she is mostly self taught and yes that is all her. Her astrological sign is Pieces, the symbol being 2 fish swimming in opposite directions. She doesn't use the vocal chords for the harsh, she uses the false vocal folds. This live session was done to showcase Vlad on drums, as he had joined not long before this. But it went viral because of her vocals. Vlad is classically trained on piano, and self taught on drums. He, Roman (guitar), and Eugene (bass) write the music , and Tati writes most of the lyrics. Eugene does a lot of tapping on the bass, too. Roman plays OD guitars, it's a 6 string. The guys were stuck in Kiev when the current fighting started, but were allowed to leave last summer , to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine. They are considered metalcore, but will use other genres, including jazz and Reggae, within the same song. She CAN do it live too, see Perennial live at Wacken 2019 for a good example of that. Others to try, Teacher Teacher, Judgement(andPunishment), Home Back( about the fighting in their homeland in 2014), Vortex, and I Speak Astronomy.

[@justinatest9456]

Pisces swimming through the river All their life against the stream Searching for a hook to catch on and see their sun beam Then suffocate in painful tortures On cutting tables of callous men Under a knife of handsome butchers Emeralds are ripped away She's a poet, writing in a second or third language, as the band is from Ukraine. You should check out Perennial - Live at Wacken to see them live, and their video for Retrospection, written for their families who they don't see often due to their touring life, and the nine years long war in eastern Ukraine.

[@Drinckx2]

Great to see Wolf back. They are a great band, I saw them live a few weeks back and it was a superb gig. Tatiana is a remarkable front woman and singer. She taught herself to use that false-fold technique and she is one of the best at doing it.

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

wow! where did you see them Paul?

[@Drinckx2]

@@SueSueandthewolfman In Swansea, South Wales, supporting Bullet for My Valentine. I went for Jinjer, stayed for BFMV, who were admittedly very good, but I wanted to see Jinjer doing their thing live. They are, as you can tell, en excellent band: tight but adventurous, good songs, obviously a lot of pro-Ukrainian stuff (a light show emphasising the yellow and blue of the Ukraine flag). I was wearing my Jinjer ‘fund-raising’ t-shirt - money from sales going to good causes for Ukrainians affected by by the Russian invasion (which I guess is all of them). Hopefully, I’ll get to see them headline one day, and not just play a 40-minute support slot.

[@williamswiniuch7527]

@@Drinckx2 I saw them headline a couple years ago and am going to see them again in august with disturbed

[@casandralorensen4910]

Welcome to Jinjer. Perennial live at Wacken shows her talent well

[@davejohnston2197]

Tatiana uses a combination of false fold and fry. She can switch and combine without causing damage. She has multiple levels of what you call screams, but they are growls. The rest of the band is stupid amazing. The drummer is a classically trained pianist. His Rachmaninov is on point.

[@TomClark-Futoura]

The Trifecta of Metal, Hard Rock and Rock: Jinjer, Band-Maid, and The Warning -- all pushing their core genres into the next realm! 🤘 🤘 🤘 Thx, Guys!

[@luckycharmsmeh]

I was as shocked as you guys, that’s some seriously impressive vocal control! Dad, your face when she first started screaming had me and JC rolling. 😂 love you guys

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

love you sweet girl!!

[@jimmorris67]

This band doesn’t disappoint if you truly pursue more and a friendly universal fan base too.A rare band that’s as good or better live than studio and Tatiana puts on an excellent stage performance.Most of their songs are heavier than Pisces but they run the gamut as far as variety goes but it’s good

[@gtrsean2429]

Welcome to the greatness that is Jinjer. 🤘Y'all ain't heard or seen nothin' yet. Buckel up! BTW, Pisces is the correct spelling. 😉 I've seen them live a couple of times so far. Among the best live bands I've ever witnessed. I gave Tatiana a Cookie Monster shirt when I met them. I'm a 50 + year old musician and I discovered Jinjer in '18. They are my favorite band from this century. There are many surprises with twists and turns with this band.

[@wjl2601]

This four piece unit is a little miracle. Jinjer is not just a one day fly. This live recording has probably been played more than 70 million times.Their catalogue is huge and filled with great songs. This band is now one of the frontrunners in metal and beyond. The most natural follow up reaction is to 'Perennial live at Wacken' (You are familiair with Wacken I guess;-). Before a big audience or in a small venue they are simply world class. The vocalist is probably one of the best growlers there is, female or male. My favorite live gig on the tube is 'Who is gonna be the one' not the recent one but the older version. It's a blistering performance with Tatiana in super shape. The song also has a surprising twist at the end. Succes and have lots of fun.

[@scuppernog1]

Somehow I thought you guys had already been down the Jinjer rabbit hole. Anyway welcome to the wonderful world of Jinjer and our metal goddess Tatiana 🤘🏻 She sings like an angel and growls like a demon straight from Hell. You won’t be sorry for going down this rabbit hole. Every member of the band is a master of their craft and Tati is I believe the best growler out there, male or female. You have barely scratched the surface of this group. Just pick any of the suggestions already in the comments. They are all fantastic. Eugene the bassist is for me in a tie with Misa from Band-Maid for my favorite bassist. Enjoy!😎🤘🏻🤘🏻 More Jinjer, please and thank you! 😎🤘🏻

[@Ieeho98]

Great Reaction! I had no idea that you two had never reacted to Jinjer. Well, get ready, because you are fixing to get a whole lot of recommendations to react to other Jinjer songs.

[@module79l28]

Me too! I've watched so many of their reactions to other bands that in the back of my mind I assumed they had already reacted to Jinjer. 😄

[@coder4liberty]

Tatiana has been doing this vocal technique for 15 years at this point. It doesn't actually use the vocal chords. It uses the false vocal folds which extend over your real vocal folds when you swallow. Singers who do this technique correctly learn to control those involuntary muscles. That combined with the soft pallet and how they form their mouth is how they get the low growls. Everyone who does the technique sounds different because it is biology. The band is from Eastern Ukraine. I'm not sure about all their parents but I believe at least Tatiana's mother still lives in Gorlivka which is very close to the current front lines in Ukraine. They have some excellent videos out there. You might try "Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air" and the video for "I Speak Astronomy" which is a song off the same album as Picses.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Roman's parents were living in Mariupol when it was bombed all to hell, not sure where they are living now.

[@coder4liberty]

@@neilpatrickhairless Ah yes I do remember hearing that. They got out I think.

[@shaunbryan3421]

Jinjer has put real in hard work for the better part of a decade. They made the dedecision to make playing music their full time job and went on a full time self promoted tours. For years they played every gig that they could get oft🎉playing well over 200 shows a year just to scrap by. That said they slay live and check out Tatiana's lyrics she wouldn't admit it but she does write poetry.

[@tackle47]

Good news I believe they will be at The Amp in Rogers this summer. I have seen them live twice in OKC and Lawrence, Kansas. Been going to concerts for nearly 40 years and they are right at the top tier of bands I have ever seen live.

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

which amp? Walmart Amp in Bentonville? Thats about 45 minutes from us. Tulsa 2 hours and OKC 3 hours.

[@tackle47]

@@SueSueandthewolfman just looked it up it is late July at the Walmart Amp. I lived in Rogers for 10 years the Amp is right where Rogers and Bentonville meet. They are also playing Rocklahoma this year, but as an older guy I am not much for festivals. I remembered you wearing a Pointers shirt one day and knew you were in VB.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Jinjer have checked in on their parents recently. They have a song called "Retrospection" that is literally that

[@thomasharper3185]

One of the best reaction videos I’ve seen lately as you are obviously musically inclined and you didn’t keep stopping to make stupid comments and you didn’t butcher the song as a result. You actually listened to the song as many people talk over this song and miss crucial parts. Very good reaction

[@kentk2215]

Welcome back Wolfman!

[@RockDocNeal]

Your response after the song, "Holy crap"!, pretty much sums up the reaction of most people when they first hear Jinjer! 😆 You may have just entered the deep rabbit hole of great Jinjer songs. I've been a musician since I was kid and I've played in multiple bands in several genres over the years, but I was never into metal with the scream/growl harsh vocals until I discovered Jinjer near the end of 2021. I loved the band the first time I heard them due to their interesting and sophisticated songwriting, fantastic musicianship and the incredible vocals of their "metal goddess", Tatiana, with her amazing ability to instantly transition back and forth from her beautiful clean singing voice to the best harsh vocals I've heard, female or male. Some other Jinjer songs I'd recommend checking out are...Perennial (live from Wacken 2019 video), Judgement and Punishment (Tatiana's live one take vocal performance video), Wallflower (official video), Teacher, Teacher (official video) and Home Back (official video).

[@timprice5747]

Jinjer is from Ukraine and every member is an exceptional musician. They are Roman on guitar, Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, and Tatiana on vocals. Tati uses her false chords to make that growl, and if done properly, it doesn't harm the voice. They have been one of the hardest working bands over the last decade. They were basically on tour for years after they fled the region they come from because of the Russian invasion

[@graciefolden2359]

Tatiana Shmailyuk, is a big believer in astrology. She said "I know it doesn't rule your life, but in some ways, it can determine your past," As a Pisces,Tati struggles with the complicated nature of her sign, which is symbolized by two fish swimming in opposite directions. She wrote this track to show solidarity with her astrological family. "It's a little anthem to all those Pisces out there, because it's really hard for them to survive in this world, because they combine all the 12 signs of the zodiac in themselves. You can call it split personalities. So, we are 12 personalities inside. It's a lot of inner conflicts all the time."

[@bigreddraggin4443]

Welcome to Jinjer, enjoy the ride

[@Jinjer13]

You have landed in the right place... welcome to the JINJER ARMY a world class band from the ukraine. I heard this song about 5 years ago and since then this band hasn't let me go. I've been a musician myself for over 40 years and I've been interested in music in different genres for even longer, but when I heard this band for the first time I immediately thought it was something very special and not just because of Tati the singer, I'm talking about the whole band. They are remarkable musicians and people in so many ways that I feel like a teenage fan towards the band. Thanx for your reaction and lovely greetings from germany

[@JariJuslin]

How I'm told is that if you can switch fast between growls and cleans you are most likely doing it right and not damaging anything. You can hear it here, when she goes to clean singing, and that high belt, there is no unintentional roughness in the voice. One other songs she does even faster switches, also live. That's a testament to her skills.

[@darrenaurisch2707]

Great reaction!.Couldn't stop laughing when Tatiana drops the demon and you look at Jeff in amazment and he's smiling in approval! Great tight band with talented vocals obviously. From Ukraine, Tatiana uses clean, Falsefold, Fry vocals along with a belt in Pisces. "Teacher Teacher" is a brilliant one to checkout. If you're interested in Talented bands with more talented Women lead singers, "Handshake with Hell" by Arch Enemy is a Banger!!!.. you'll love it!... Hope the health comes along Jeff, I'm sure you'll be right mate.👍

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

we were very surprised, weren't we? lol

[@jeffkerr4861]

The pair is back!!! I'm so happy to see the smiling duo. I was surprised as you by the vocals. Sibyl how many are in there with you? Just joking. I enjoy the song. Another new to me, and again shown by you two. Good show, be well, and thank you 🤠

[@jeffwellman8347]

Welcome to Jinjer. Great band, Great vocalist. I recommend "Perennial" live at Wacken as a follow up reaction. Jinjer shines in their live performances. Tatiana writes very creative lyrics, please have a copy to appreciate how good a wordsmith she is. Good reaction (Subbed)

[@darrinterrazas7774]

Hi guys! Great reaction to this incredible band! Tatiana is self- taught at song her growls and screams. She says that she couldn't tell you how she does it and that she has lost it in the past for a little while. She does pride herself on NOT sounding like a girl when she growls. If you decide to go deeper down the Jinjer rabbit hole, you will discover the talent of each member and just how great they are with their musicianship. Hope to see you further down the Jinjer highway. SLAVA UKRAINI!!! 🤘🏽🇺🇦🤘🏽🇺🇦

[@Robertsmith-dy3sh]

Welcome to Jinjer! Awesome reaction, I hope you continue down the Jinjer rabbit hole. This band truly doesn't have a bad song and every one is different! I would recommend a live in concert song next to truly see and hear what they are all about, Perennial (live at Wacken 2019) would be a good choice.

[@spiderbass65]

Jinjer are all master musicians, and they mix up styles so well. Very progressive.

[@robertbassham8514]

Glad you guys are still doing reactions. I saw a very nice explanation of that vocal technique but it basically is using your false vocal folds or commonly referred to as false vocal cords, so no, she is not damaging her voice. I recommend Perennial live at Waken orTatiana's one take vocal performance of Judgment (and Punishment).

[@pernillaeriksson8594]

Sue, you wondered where they are from. They are from war ridden Ukraine. Still do occasional tours abroad as official ambassadors of the country, though. Sad... 😦

[@mikedanger6323]

Maybe the best metal band in the world today. They have been together since 2009-2010.

[@palladinodessa8988]

Top notch talent at every instrument, and Tatiana... ❤ Such a unique band. They blend genres and bend timing - very prog and very different composition. 🤘

[@nickmoutos8308]

Tatiana mostly does "growls" rather than the "screams" so many others tend to do, and she uses "false cords" or "false vocal folds," that she taught herself to do when she was younger and has been doing it for 10-15 years now. Tati, Vlad (drums), Eugene (bass), and Roman (guitar) are spectacular, particularly LIVE. Treat yourself to "Perennial Live at Wacken 2019). This group is from Ukraine, their home is in the Donetsk region and has been occupied by Russia since 2014. Enjoy your Jinjer Journey!

[@cyberia55]

No, Roman does not play a 7-string. He used to play a multiscale (fanned fret) guitar to improve the tonal quality of lower notes, but recently switched to a baritone. But always a 6-string.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

He played a 7 string on rhe video for "Sit Stay Roll Over" and that's the only time I have seen the guy use one. I don't think the song was recorded with a 7 string so possibly a loaner guitar for the video

[@module79l28]

@@neilpatrickhairless - Definitely a loaner guitar, just like the one he used in the I Speak Astronomy OMV.

[@cyberia55]

I never noticed the 7-string in either of those videos. Nice catch! I always assumed that they used their actual instruments in all videos, based on the play-throughs and other recent videos. I am always amazed by how sharp-eyed this community is collectively. No detail goes unnoticed by someone eventually. So many eyes scrutinizing every detail…

[@module79l28]

@@cyberia55 - Sorry, I didn't explain myself correctly: what I meant was that Roman didn't use his guitar on the OMV for I Speak Astronomy, he used a loaned 6-string. Sit Stay Roll Over's OMV is the only one where he uses a 7-string. 🙂 Speaking of details, I don't think many people noticed that Eugene uses a 4-string bass on the official live videos for Bad Water and Cloud Factory.

[@cyberia55]

@@module79l28 OK. Thanks for the clarification.

[@jabberwokee4127]

Enjoyed your reaction and analysis. Just found your channel, and Liked and sub'd. Yes, every member of Jinjer (Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, Roman on guitar, and Tatiana on vocals) is a musical genius in my opinion, and together they are absolutely amazing. I'd recommend Perennial live at Wacken 2019 next, as Jinjer is phenomenal live. Best wishes, and more Jinjer please! 🤘🍻

[@chicagoaustin727]

Appreciate your reaction more than most others! A lot of other reactions pause and go because they’re more vain about the sound of their own voice and opinion, and then they just end up riding the trendy shock and awe factor wave of Co-Fi ratings. Love that you listened first and analyzed after. True reaction approved! As for the question: her voice is an art form many find or train to achieve by using the false vocal cord openings so as to not wreck the cords themselves- which could potentially leave someone hoarse or worse. In an interview, she was laughing while saying she would practice into a pillow, not wanting to disturb others. Great reaction and many prayers your way!

[@alanfoster6589]

Saw them a little over a year ago. Seeing them again in July. Terrific musicians, and Tati never stops.

[@garycoates4987]

Good health to you wolf man!!

[@umgwahumgwa]

if you interested how such singing looks like from close up view make a reaction to another Jinjer's song, it is one take vocal performance Judgement & Punishment video.

[@SwedeSpeeder]

This is but the tip of an amazing iceberg. ;)

[@patrickk8001]

Welcome to the jinjer rabbit hole. I saw Jinjer live 2 times so far. So I would suggest perennial Live at Wacken 2019!

[@travisfodrie5410]

Harsh vocals have 2 bases that can be extended upon: false cord and fry. There are a lot of techniques involving mouth shape and tongue placement that can wildly change the tone, color and intensity of the sounds you produce. Breath support is key in doing any and all of it safely. Also, never say "screamo" to a metal head 🤣

[@vladimirrightnow6804]

Татьяна - просто специалист!!!

[@itsmemike1153]

The Warning are going to be doing a show with Jinjer in Switzerland later in the year.

[@andybarber8898]

Cannot wait to see them live this summer!!!

[@joannebarker7694]

Yes!!!!!!

[@horrorshow3000]

Been watching your channel for a while but first time commenting because Jinjer is a favourite of mine and cheers for doing this video. 🤘

[@slxdragon]

Jinjer Perennial live in Wacken please 👏🏻

[@philipwright2883]

Perennial live at Wacken would be your next

[@christianmichael3120]

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@banier2012]

Perennial live in Wacken open next one

[@gregcissell345]

The guitarist uses a 6string but I think he tunes down to drop C

[@lw3918]

You guys need to try Arch Enemy next.

[@horstschafer1839]

As far as I know it took her three years to learn to sing that way.

[@rogerforsman5064]

@TheCharismaticVoice Elizabeth Zharoff youtuber have several episodes explaining what is happening!

[@karlbecker8775]

"Pisces is the twelfth sign of the zodiac, and it is also the final sign in the zodiacal cycle." Just sayin.. ;)

[@timomusyal7044]

Nice reaktion.. 😅 🇺🇦 Best next Song parennial live AT wacken 2019.. #stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 😎

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Took you a long time finding them but I hope you have a big ladder to get out. I'm still in and no one has thrown me a good rope to find someone better.

[@user-dz8ku8oe8h]

please React DakhaBrakha - Carpathian Rap (Live on KEXP)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@randallhaney7909]

Humm?? Checked the zodiac. Pisces zodiac sign, the twelfth and last sign of the zodiac (Spelled->) "Pisces".. The two; kind of opposing fish.. In the song two; opposing time signatures'. two; opposing types of singing.. And she has a littlie fish in each of her ear spacers/gauges?? One on each side/ear = 2 ? Go figure?? Oh my; what can it mean? Do you suppose this could be a coincidence? LOL PS. You tow are a crack up ..(In a good way)

[@module79l28]

Please don't call Tatiana's harsh vocals "screamo". Screamo is a music genre, not a vocal technique.

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

Thx for info. What vocal is it? Is there a name?

[@module79l28]

@@SueSueandthewolfman - Some people call growls to the lower registers and screams to the higher registers but when you're not familiar with each type it's better to just call them harsh vocals. 🙂

[@JariJuslin]

They are from Donetsk region of Ukraine which has been occupied by Russia since 2014, so you can be sure they check on their mothers often. It's a bloody warzone.

[@thomaslemke4437]

Hoiw would you spell "pisces" the star sign? I am not a native speaker and thought the spelling was correct... What is the correct spelling then?

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

I was wrong on the spelling lol - you got it right 😂💜

[@kentk2215]

@@SueSueandthewolfman …unless you are talking about oceans of pastries, then it would be ‘Pie Seas’.

[@SueSueandthewolfman]

@@kentk2215 I don’t know why i suddenly forgot how to spell … 😂

[@amygoodson-catlady]

You give it, girl! Like the haircut! Hi Wolf! Only stayed for your intro...not a fan of Jinger.

[@aixmhros]

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