JINJER "Vortex" REACTION & ANALYSIS by Metal Vocalist / Metal Vocal Coach

I know I'm late to the game, but "Vortex" by Jinjer absolutely trots! Yet again we have strong, commanding singing with absolutely crushing metal screams - all delivered by Tatiana. It even sounds like she's grown a bit since previous releases! Lets have fun, and react to Vortex by Jinjer!
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[@jinjerislife5640]

OD Guitars by Omer Deutsch. He does indeed make works of art. Great to see another Jinjer reaction on the channel!

[@Mike.daFonz]

I'd die a happy man with an OD guitar in my collection. My wallet isn't having any of it unfortunately.

[@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301]

More specifically, it’s a Venus model.

[@mikedanger6323]

Not only are they beautiful but they are top high end guitars. Yes; they are not cheap but they are still thousands of dollars less than a high end Les Paul. I bought his most basic guitar two years ago and I have been saving ever since to buy a second (look for a venus with a pale moon top at the end of the year (Yeah!))

[@module79l28]

What else could come out of the mind of an industrial designer who's also a guitar player? : )

[@petersilver4281]

Speaking about Israelis and special guitars... How about some Orphaned Land? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3TYo4ZsjtGtqMk (Also, check Yossi Sassi and his signature "Bouzoukitara")

[@module79l28]

The most amazing thing about that last low "swirl" is that we can clearly hear Tatiana pronouncing the "sw" at the beginning and the "rrl" at the end, instead of just unintelligible noise. In short, SWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRL!!! \m/

[@Blasto2x]

Ok I too thought that was cool but didn’t know if anyone else was as impressed as I was lol

[@user-bx8sj6qm3w]

Yeah, lots of metal vocalist just go "ditdtaurwifhcigs6rqe6figihdura6ef" and you're supposed to read the lyrics to understand what tf does that say. Glad she works on her diction.

[@lov3977]

The vocal descriptive you're looking for is the Layne Staley effect, which is to say, God Tier. There is so much Alice in Chains in the clean vocals on this track its amazing, that needs to stay in the Jinjer sound permanently.

[@tljr8927]

Was blown away watching her do this live.

[@kevinmendozacisneros4000]

where??? past the link pls

[@SatanicNerfd]

It was an online Hellfest performance kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKq4Zn6DlKZ3ppY

[@sterok2891]

@@kevinmendozacisneros4000 If you're still interested : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKq4Zn6DlKZ3ppY

[@Peach_Creed]

16:41 that vocal she holds out the end of that theres a slight gurgle. So good. 🖤

[@OhrionReacts]

One of their best songs for me. Really enjoyed this one. Great reaction, Buds!

[@kadlifts]

This ones been out for quite a while but "Lost in wave - Lvndmarks" is definitely an interesting vid to check out

[@coderjoe8258]

That's an odd workaround to keep yourself from straight up asking for another reaction since it hasn't been out that long.

[@kadlifts]

@@coderjoe8258 it came out almost 7 months ago

[@coderjoe8258]

@@kadlifts I see, I see. Just a differing view of quite a while for music. No biggie :D

[@kadlifts]

@@coderjoe8258 yeah I agree with you. I’m just talking for a reaction channel that’s quite a long time haha

[@bringtharuckus356]

This song came out two weeks ago…

[@ndawesome1]

Dude you're awesome. Seen a lot of vocal coaches talk about these sounds but you're the first one I've seen demonstrating them.

[@ericpeterson7512]

I'm new to your channel, after first catching your recent joint reaction with the pop singer. Great job! I'm here for the Jinjer! I love Tatiana's expressiveness and phonation, both with the cleans and the uncleans. I've been singing and playing bass professionally since 1978. I've always been a metalhead, but I never really got into extreme vocals much. I dig David Draiman, and I like early Phil Anselmo, and that was pretty much it. I do love the old school Little Richard "Heeeeyyyyyy!" with vibrato, that's been used by so many great soul singers, and by dUg Pinnick of King's X in a soul/metal crossover. I had an inkling when I heard Lacey Sturm of Flyleaf that I was gonna like female screaming. Tatiana was a revelation though. She screams in a way that's more appealing to me than any other. Awesome breakdown of the various subtechniques. I'm learning to do harsh vocals, but I'm taking it slow to avoid damage. I'm in a band that performs a lot, and I just turned 62. I have to exercise a little caution. I appreciate your expertise and acumen. Thanks for dropping some knowledge on us brotha!

[@emmywillow6599]

If you want to see insanity, go watch they’re live performance of this at Hellfest. She can switch between singing and screaming basically at will, even at the end of an hour-long set.

[@ZeoNox9780]

"i was pretty bad for 2/3 years" dang now i feel bad cause i was bad for 3/4 years lol. im on my 6th year of vocals now and i've made lots of progress since i got over that "bad" initial hurdle

[@twainjones]

cool, i'm on shit year #1 lol but that's inspiring 👍👍👍

[@AuraSparks]

Mark I just want to comment somewhere saying that you are such an inspiration to me as an artist. You are just such a beautiful person in these videos and in your vocal work and lyrics. I love the way you move and express yourself and how you feel things and are so positive and open. Thank you for being you!

[@user-qr6td3ub2q]

Vlad added 2nd (10 inch) snare to his set.

[@Zdenda1990]

Will you do a video about the new Make Them Suffer single "Contraband" featuring Courtney LaPlante? It would be interesting to hear your analysis, since there are three vocalists in that song.

[@PheonixRise666]

Yes! This so much this.

[@shaunbryan3421]

I have just one reason that I like to learn how to growl and that is just to fuk with people. When Tatiana did that laughing growl in the prophecy I was just thinking about how much fun it would be to be able drop demonic laughter onto unsuspecting people. Purely for my own enjoyment of course.

[@MusicMonstersEnt]

how delicious these pattern changes are!!!! The drummer is amazing!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Definitely! The grooves are awesome!

[@j.f.fisher5318]

This will be fun. The performance of it at Hellfest was incredibly impressive but the copyright holders don't seem to be reactor friendly.

[@barefootalien]

You're inspiring me to want to learn how to growl... I kinda want to, anyway. I didn't used to listen to music with growls and screams, but now that I am, it's frustrating not to be able to sing along in those parts.

[@koonfoxmusic1472]

13:30 i agree tatianas harsh vocals have come a long way. she was ok but monotonous and more strain sound in their first albums, but now its so controlled, powerful, and diverse in sound. amazing

[@KardavoxAcademy]

She is definitely a badass!

[@cognitivedisruption5375]

Awesome reaction as always! I appreciate the insight and the fact that you mentioned, “TankTheTech”!!

[@ЛевХорошилов]

OD Guitars. Roman is endorsed by them(him). OD - Omer Deutsch. He makes guitars with natural geometric design. Roman has another guitar(the green one) by him which is a multiscale(very awesome too).

[@barefootalien]

You're the one I've been waiting for, for this! It's about time!

[@Goregaltha]

Roman's guitar is a custom OD guitar, I think in particular based on the Venus model ;)

[@MLuxemburg]

I love learning from your videos (and I love Jinjer), thank you! ❤🤘

[@KoenKooi]

My 2 year old daughter enthusiastically joins Marks in false chord demonstrations, let’s see how that develops :)

[@j.f.fisher5318]

\m/ \m/

[@KardavoxAcademy]

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[@manuhorgan]

Oh man, I was praying for Lorna Shore, I'm sure this will be great though 🤘🏻

[@StandDefiant18]

He posted something about it saying he was blocked from reacting to it, but is trying to get it straightened out.

[@EvilSewnit]

@@StandDefiant18 probably got blacklisted cause his old death portrait video got blocked and taken down

[@austins161]

@@EvilSewnit You mean like the label is saying no?

[@allshallperish35]

@@austins161 it's cause he used the music video in his reaction which has gotten a lot of people blocked. If he just uses the audio it should be fine

[@boxcpl]

Literally sass in the first 6 seconds of the video. Well clearly this is going to be good.

[@gabib4966]

I can’t wait to start seeing recordings of her performing this live.

[@Aven115]

Idk if she went lower here or on Homeback, im always conflicted by that, but its always a treat to listen to her go even deeper. What an amazing singer, and the guys are exceptional musicians

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Absolutely!

[@ericpeterson7512]

Also on Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev, and on Who Is Gonna Be the One live. Those four have the lowest gutturals I think.

[@MrRcow]

Glad to hear the health issues are getting solved. Check out the new Lorna Shore song To The Hellfire COVER by Trevor Teichert. It's a one take and I know you'd love all the faces and mouth/tongue shapes you can see. Feel like it'd be a good way to show the techniques you frequently talk about.

[@Mhelyssa_1]

I had never enjoyed a video reaction so much ❣️

[@KardavoxAcademy]

That's awesome to hear, thanks so much for watching!

[@louismyersjr6527]

Them ghost notes on the snare commands attention. That's y you noticed drums all the sudden. Drummers fly Af.

[@iRafaelkr]

The guitar that Roman is using is one of his guitars from OD guitars. Really beautiful, indeed

[@thisisfyne]

With the groovy guitar/bass and female vocals, the first 30 seconds of the song has strong *uneXpect* vibes. I'd really like to see a reaction to that band someday! It's avant-garde metal with male and female vocals, along with some string and copper instruments. Almost as crazy as Igorr. Almost :P

[@theopinson3851]

Great band! Killer live too.

[@tasosefthimiou4506]

everybody gangsta until she became a vortex! this one and home come... DAMN! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jeremykershaw]

Really looking forward to this album! And that guitar is indeed a work of art

[@Duskwalker68]

Best song I've ever heard from them

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Great analysis. I'll be recommending this to growling noob reactors :) Cheers!

[@Chopped86]

RIP *high end* headphone users. Still watched to the end because I love you.

[@brunocallado5196]

Please do some more Jinjer reacts!!

[@freekboss]

just a small comment: 14:55 "dynamism" i love the contraction for dynamic movement.

[@l.sch.7545]

yes progress makes perfect. It took me 2 years to figure it out for myself and now im in year 3 getting somewhat consistent, but sometimes it still sound one day like this and next like that.

[@camlloyd3321]

Great song, and video concept. I love the way it builds up slowly, and erupts at the end.

[@ToDefyTheLawsOfTradition.]

The Best Vortex review so far!!! 🤘🔥🤘

[@ihurtmyi90]

I really like how the drums and the flashes match up.

[@trottingfoxinc]

Lmao that Tank shoutout just made my day

[@ryanexsus]

16:42 is my favorite reaction ever haha!

[@mammoth157]

Glad to see you reviewing this, hope all is well, and I hope you can get to some of the other songs people have mentioned in the comments!

[@Jens_Roadster]

Wait, is Lorna Shore coming soon or no? I saw the picture you shared yesterday but i didn't understand it.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

essentially we uploaded the video and it was blocked worldwide. Our legal team is working on it, but it can take a few weeks to release sometimes :/

[@Jens_Roadster]

@@KardavoxAcademy ah, okay. I understand! Thanks for explaining. 😁

[@Conundrums._]

@@KardavoxAcademy try putting an album art over the video instead of watching the video. Has helped others!

[@metaphysical6926]

@@KardavoxAcademy It's so weird how inconsistent blocking is. Some can upload w/ the video no problem or at worse with a copyright strike, others regardless of channel size difference get blocked.

[@Ginosphere]

@@KardavoxAcademy Lots of youtube react channels have the same problem with this Lorna Shore Song.

[@Syriis_]

Always great catching up on your reactions, glad you’re back in saddle again and out of the woods! Fingers crossed Century stops being babies and allows your release of “To the Hellfire” soon.

[@ЛевХорошилов]

Maan, I don't really subscribe to the reaction channels. But just love your way doing these and your attitude. So yeah, you're first.

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

Such a great reaction, thanks for posting and sharing it.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks for watching, Adam!

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

@@KardavoxAcademy Thanks. My pleasure. It's always great to see song Jinjer too.

[@illeandreas920]

The Guitar Roman uses is an OD Guitar...OD stands for Omer Deutsch....he is a luthier from Israel and maaan his guitars are amazing.

[@parsa8941]

I can't focus on anything BUT DAT BASS! HOLY SHIT

[@annikamaniath5258]

More Jinjer reaction & analysis? please..? 👉👈

[@twainjones]

The ending to Vortex is SO F"#¤!"§ HEAVY 😆 At the end there she actually reminds me a bit of Phil Anselmo 😄

[@wvince111]

There is a live version of this song from Hellfest 2021. Jinger played their whole set and this was the last song. Impressive!

[@mrrominemr]

Jinjer what a great song.

[@diapsiquir9148]

Top analyse man 👌

[@donovangesting1]

great breakdown and the only real excitement on the areas that excited me as well.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@NoLifeRC]

I LOVE TO SEE YOU REATCT TO diamonds to dust by corpus christi and get your thoughts on his vocals!! And break it down there are some really good angles to see how he's producing his sounds

[@penseesdeseb4919]

You late to the game, me late in comment :) Your react are top intersting. Realy cool to see what is behind the sound. (sry if my english not perfect)

[@B.J.Savage]

His guitar is a OD Venus

[@DannyR121]

Glad to hear that you are doing better!

[@SwedeSpeeder]

That snare you're hearing has a "Pork pie snare" sound. But I think you can see a weight on the snare in the video which would tighten up the sound, too. ;)

[@fabriceeffroy995]

thank you so mush for your analyse and explications

[@kravampz1561]

The guitar is made by a company called OD Guitars

[@adamhobbs2316]

The Wise Man's Fear just released a new single and it is a BANGER, worth checking out in my humble opinion.

[@doyaseeme9173]

Really great analysis! I'm not a vocalist, just an avid metal listener and this helped me understand a bit more about what I like and dislike about Tatiana's vocal ability. I think it's precisely that nasal coloring that's a bit too much for my taste (maybe her English accent contributes a little as well). Even though Tatiana's growls are unmatched, I prefer Vicky Psarakis (from the Agonist), her cleans feel more soothing. BTW, I hope to see Vicky on your channel, too (I suggest checking The Agonist - "The Gift Of Silence" or "In Vertigo"). Also, an unpopular suggestion which might be an interesting discovery for you: Biomechanical - Empires of The Worlds (Earache Records version, for acceptable audio). The mastermind behind it, John K, practically vanished from the metal scene, which I think it's a big loss, as he was an awesome vocalist, not just a crazy composer.

[@Drewrandomdude223]

The dead pigeon technique, nice. But seriously it does work and is sound advice!

[@frankhermansen243]

Yeah Vlad bringes it to another lvl

[@Vortexakos]

How about Wintersun, I would love to listen to your analysis on Jari's vocals.

[@kimrobingraham]

Dude I just perfected my triple sow cow whistle fry and you all up in here telling me it doesn’t matter anymore.

[@MetalTrenches]

Looking forward to reviewing this album. Not their BEST song I would say but great as always. Macro had some serious bangers.

[@Phlfwlr]

I’m gonna see them in December

[@manjay49]

Imo, Jinjer is disguised as a metal group. It is mainly because of their sound and presentation. To me, the compositions they have produced since Vlad joined in 2016 are much more akin to classical and jazz structures than they are to metal. Their arrangments, chord structures,melodic, harmonic and rhythmic contents are much more related to classical European and jazz structures than they are to rock or metal formats. Many of their works could be transcribed for orchestras or large jazz ensembles. Imagine Gil Evans or Stravinsky or Wagner arranging Vortex with "traditional" instrumentation. Awesome

[@ericpeterson7512]

That's a great fkn idea! I have the Miroslav Philharmonik virtual orchestra in my DAW. I might have to try transcribing a Jinjer song for full orchestration. You've got me thinking now...!

[@Katolikk61]

the guitar is a custom from OD guitars in Israel

[@danielegiuliani2700]

Great stuff as always!

[@terryminator4208]

Tank knows. He knows everything.👍🤘🔥😁

[@NativeNewMexican]

I wish we didn't have to hedge our statements due to the pedantic "but what about" complaints regarding generalizations. If it's easier for most people to scream than sing, it makes no difference if there's a natural singer that's an exception to the rule. Your generalization stands and the pedants can pound sand.

[@a_true_hyena]

Been waiting since Lorna Shore’s new “To the Hellfire” drop for you to react to it. Common man 🤦🏼‍♂️ lol hope all’s good

[@amirrezarajabloo6993]

Great video, Mark you should really react to CAR BOMB - Black Blood.

[@aababibi7922]

(1) Jinjer au Hellfest 2021 - ARTE Concert - KZbin To me. This is an album worthy performance.

[@theoriginalemim]

Would love to see you do Diamonds to Dust - Corpus Christi Crazy vocals in the ending breakdown

[@st421D]

Make them Suffer - Contraband (ft. Courtney LaPlante).....you have to check this out

[@jxp_shows]

This reaction was amazing!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks Jackson!

[@Derekcoma]

dude you need to check out Tesseract any of the songs from the live PORTALS recording Daniel Tompkins voice is insane in them

[@T_L_]

I know the song isn’t necessarily new, but I would LOVE to see you do a video over The Collection by Signs of the Swarm.

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Great breakdown.

[@severalsedrack]

I know you don't have much time but, you should really do Lorna Shore's To the Hellfire

[@xtravagentk1275]

He's already posted something about it, saying it was blocked and that he's working on getting it unblocked.

[@animekisses1]

Yeeesssssssssssssssss

[@skupipup]

Comment for the algorithm

[@billkuduk1159]

His guitar is a custom OD from isreal

[@2Poor4UserName]

Check out the band Synlakross. Some pretty great songs by them Fatal Frame, Dark Seed, Bloody Waltz, or really anything from the Malice Murder album.

[@GabobTuba]

Please!!! React to "Teacher Teacher!"

[@MightBeCale]

Random thought I had listening to this while walking my dog. Fry and false chord in their most standard forms have pretty like, noticeable differences in how they sound. Fry is like a European sports car, false chord is like an American muscle car.

[@oldmanjimh3165]

I'm a new fan of yours.

[@DJ-pp4mt]

Up Next: Lorna Shore - To The Hellfire

[@maximef.994]

He did but got copystriked before releasing the video.

[@DJ-pp4mt]

@@maximef.994 Daaaaaaaamn. Hope we can get it soon

[@metalflower9543]

They use OD (Omer Deutsch) Guitars. 🔥 He's on YT and IG