Jiraiya vs Orochimaru WHO WINS?!

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NCHammer 23

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@taylordesouza7
@taylordesouza7 9 ай бұрын
It's sad that Jiraya didnt live long enought to see Orochimaru comeing back to good side. Imagine him meeting Log and Mitsuki. 😭😭😭
@sephirian688
@sephirian688 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say Orochimaru is on the good side.
@fr0stdr4ke95
@fr0stdr4ke95 9 ай бұрын
​@@sephirian688 At best he just isn't entirely evil anymore. He doesn't do anything illegal. As long as no one thinks about it too hard.
@TheDominic74
@TheDominic74 9 ай бұрын
He is more like a chaotic neutral character.
@sephirian688
@sephirian688 9 ай бұрын
@@fr0stdr4ke95agreed not a good guy but not necessarily evil anymore. Like he is technically under house arrest in Boruto because Naruto doesn’t really trust him to not do evil stuff lol
@Səv
@Səv 9 ай бұрын
Current Orochimaru is....neutral
@Prince_Luci
@Prince_Luci 9 ай бұрын
I think they could still touch on this in Boruto. Yamato reports Orochimaru blatantly leaves his home arrest. Naruto tells him not to pursue he knows where he is. He finds orochimaru paying his respects at the grave of his greatest rival.
@squilliamfancyson3552
@squilliamfancyson3552 9 ай бұрын
that would be pretty cool bro to see him at jiraiyas grave sight
@nicoencarnacion1883
@nicoencarnacion1883 8 ай бұрын
That hit me in the feels a lot more than I thought it would. I like it. Headcanon for now.
@AnujSingh-qo4ep
@AnujSingh-qo4ep 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t they take Jiraiya’s body for Kashin Koji though? I could be wrong so don’t lash out pls. 😢😢
@HeroSword_P
@HeroSword_P 7 ай бұрын
Orochimaru has never done anything sentimental like that lol
@kingteddieP4
@kingteddieP4 5 ай бұрын
​@@HeroSword_P that's why this would be touching to see
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 9 ай бұрын
What I have realized is that both Jiraiya and Orochimaru have clones. Mitsuki and Kashin Koji.
@BlazeRequiem
@BlazeRequiem 9 ай бұрын
….
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever 9 ай бұрын
And the power difference is roughly the opposite of their original templates (Kashin being the stronger one in this case)
@sonnywilson748
@sonnywilson748 9 ай бұрын
@@LokiTheCleverno. Current mitsuki spanks kashin
@psypsy751
@psypsy751 9 ай бұрын
Let's be real, all the main OG Naruto characters have clones in Boruto...
@reozen17
@reozen17 9 ай бұрын
​​@@sonnywilson748 he was saying that their powers are opposite of the person they are copied from As in mitsuki was weaker than orochimaru and kashin kogi is stronger than jiraya
@tomchester22
@tomchester22 9 ай бұрын
It was actually Tsunade who pinned Manda to the ground with the sword in the 3way deadlock
@IsaiahWayne2104
@IsaiahWayne2104 9 ай бұрын
I realized that Tsunade is the only Sannin that doesn't have a clone.
@JoeyGiles-g4g
@JoeyGiles-g4g 9 ай бұрын
Sakura be like 😮…. Jk jk I’m a sakura Stan don’t attack me
@cameronsalas2091
@cameronsalas2091 9 ай бұрын
Sakura trainer enough under Tsunade to basically be here clone just different DNA 🤣
@Damienshamien
@Damienshamien 9 ай бұрын
Yet
@dotmurda
@dotmurda 9 ай бұрын
​@@JoeyGiles-g4g 😂🤣😂🤣😭😭😭
@dotmurda
@dotmurda 9 ай бұрын
And Jiraya the only one not trying to hide his age 🤔
@sprice2719
@sprice2719 9 ай бұрын
Gotta take into consideration that jaraiya was not trying to hurt naruto in 4tails Cloak Oorochimaru was not trying to kill Itachi, he wanted to take over his body
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 8 ай бұрын
Well, we actually saw both of the fights and they were pretty instantaneous stomps. In the first Itachi pinned him in a Sharingan genjutsu before he could even get off his first attack and then cut off his arm. The second, he decapitated seven of the eight heads of the Eight Branches technique and then absorbed and sealed him with Totsuka no Tsurugi, Itachi did not waste time. Orochimaru not wanting to kill Itachi made zero difference in the outcome.
@blackcoffeguzzler
@blackcoffeguzzler Ай бұрын
@@3Rayfire It was bad writing. Realistically, there's no reason Orochimaru wouldn't put up a better fight against Itachi. Itachi feared Jiraiya, and Oro was much, much more powerful than Jiraiya. The "stomps" were just bad writing.
@insanelyred7101
@insanelyred7101 9 ай бұрын
I still miss jiraiya all these years later
@kleatise52
@kleatise52 9 ай бұрын
That’s why he came back as a clone because his toad arts are the best and most classic combat scenes to watch
@AJ__525
@AJ__525 9 ай бұрын
@@kleatise52*penis wiener* 😩
@DaySun88
@DaySun88 9 ай бұрын
I accept the clone all right But the old man could still be alive the time traveling turtle could’ve saved him right😢😢😢😢
@kjthagawd5619
@kjthagawd5619 9 ай бұрын
koji kashin in boruto is really cool to watch, and he’ll definitely get his jiraya memories back since it was teased a while ago. I just can’t wait for the naruto reunion
@DaySun88
@DaySun88 9 ай бұрын
@@kjthagawd5619 I really hope so. I got real empathy for these characters. They’ve been through so much trauma and they deserve to come back to life and see the peace that’s been created. I know the plot might be a little tarnished by characters coming back but I don’t care.😢😢😢 I really hope Sasuke brother is still alive. Somehow I know it’s ridiculous but that poor boy he was just a kid when he died.
@Rizzlordofthesea
@Rizzlordofthesea 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes Griffith and berserk the most iconic of age old rivalries
@MAGENUKE
@MAGENUKE 3 ай бұрын
Exactly lmaoo
@aidanastilla
@aidanastilla Ай бұрын
came here to the comments just for that lol
@kumaamos3648
@kumaamos3648 9 ай бұрын
They’re Griffith & Guts, Nick…With love.
@RegnarBM
@RegnarBM 9 ай бұрын
I laughed a bit more than I probably should 😂
@MostlyHappyGaming
@MostlyHappyGaming 9 ай бұрын
I always have to question when he does something like that if it’s an actual blind spot or an engagement driver. He’s admitted to it a couple times in either shorts or the podcast, but never the exact thing.
@RegnarBM
@RegnarBM 9 ай бұрын
@@MostlyHappyGaming oh I haven’t seen a video where he agrees on it, but hey, makes sense!
@nickboaz9629
@nickboaz9629 9 ай бұрын
It's worse when he calls orichimaru a they. Even worse when he gets confused and calls him a he afterwards lol
@MostlyHappyGaming
@MostlyHappyGaming 9 ай бұрын
@@nickboaz9629 ehh, Orochimaru was definitely male at some point, but is using a female body at the moment, and does not seem to have a strong connection to either gender, so they works fairly well for them.
@simplyamazingtoptens6164
@simplyamazingtoptens6164 8 ай бұрын
That los santos customs joke was even better than it normally would be because i was screwing around in gta 5 while listening to this video😂
@charliekelly1435
@charliekelly1435 9 ай бұрын
Is orichimaru ever once called they/them in manga? Because I know he is for sure referred to as he multiple times so I’m confused where you get the whole calling him “they” thing? Him stealing a girls body doesn’t make him no longer himself lol.
@fucknames
@fucknames 9 ай бұрын
It’s a joke it’s not that serious lol
@nessatic
@nessatic 9 ай бұрын
Of course, not.
@Itachi_Hibachi
@Itachi_Hibachi 8 ай бұрын
facts
@davidgooding3143
@davidgooding3143 8 ай бұрын
I think the joke was that he meant it literally, as in more than one person (constantly taking over other people's bodies), not a joke about his androgenous look.
@dlamini77
@dlamini77 8 ай бұрын
It's annoying
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 9 ай бұрын
Both Orochimaru and Jiraiya are Imperfect Sages.
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever 9 ай бұрын
I mean technically Orochimaru couldn't even properly use sage mode, the last body he has in the war arc got majorly amped.
@superjedi4206
@superjedi4206 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru can't enter sage mode it's stated he couldn't when he was bit by the great snake sage he was lucky to even escape, that's why he made mitsuki
@orochimarupr
@orochimarupr 9 ай бұрын
​@@superjedi4206Orochimaru now can enter sage, he has a zetsu body which is better than Mitsuki and kabuto put together
@superjedi4206
@superjedi4206 9 ай бұрын
@@orochimarupr yes but this is in response to the video, where it's orochimaru before the zetsu body
@superjedi4206
@superjedi4206 9 ай бұрын
@@orochimarupr I should've said but I'm talking about the orochimaru that Nick is using for the versus
@pas84av2
@pas84av2 9 ай бұрын
I thought Tsunade was the one who stabbed Manda through the head with Gamabunta's sword.
@odintheterridorable8097
@odintheterridorable8097 9 ай бұрын
This is definitely what actually happened
@Kalebmyg
@Kalebmyg 8 ай бұрын
She was
@vidya2144
@vidya2144 2 ай бұрын
It is. But i think in japanese mythology/culture, the toad is considered the better arch-nemesis of the snake.
@seabass819
@seabass819 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru definitely has more jutsu to use, but I think jariya has more raw power, and of course sage mode.
@kanoreese1253
@kanoreese1253 9 ай бұрын
Jiraiya being almost beaten to death by Tsunade is a common trope in shounen anime. The male allowing himself to be beaten by the female. He didn't try to fight back or defend himself against her, so it doesn't really count.
@ramonsanders651
@ramonsanders651 9 ай бұрын
Tsunami literally BROKE madras’s susanoo with one punch
@venomking3602
@venomking3602 9 ай бұрын
​@@ramonsanders651so the susanoo is slow jiraiya isn't he's not just going to stand there in a real fight
@Itsuchi2
@Itsuchi2 9 ай бұрын
Nah stop downplaying Tsunade mate. She’s super OP. Super strength and pretty much immortal with seal. Jiraiya = lost to Pain. Tsunade = caught 5 Susano’o Madara clones and LIVED.
@___________0Z0X
@___________0Z0X 9 ай бұрын
@@Itsuchi2 I think the point that he’s trying to make is that they weren’t having a real fight.
@mikewylie2534
@mikewylie2534 9 ай бұрын
On my point as always couldn't agree more. And you chose the best timeline for comparison to make it fair
@NarutosRasengan5
@NarutosRasengan5 9 ай бұрын
I love seeing Orochimaru get some recognition and respect kuz holy shit is that man/woman/whatever tf slept on like the whole fan base just overlooks him or forget about him and it’s like bro is cracked and operates on higher iq than more than 95% of the verse and he’s the all knowing everything while being immortal 🗿also I’d assume he’s great at kenjutsu because sasuke had to learn how to use a sword frm someone👀
@when_butter_flys
@when_butter_flys 9 ай бұрын
Yeah same here man I hate seeing him be underrated. He taught sasuke everything that sasuke knows in Shippuden plus the longer he lives the more op he gets.
@D1I.
@D1I. 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. And yes, he's one of the top kenjutsu users -Remember his fight against his older clone/son in Boruto. And ofc he teached Sasuke.
@edwinsolis5710
@edwinsolis5710 9 ай бұрын
Reminder that Jiraiya doesn’t have regeneration when fighting Naruto. So he beat 4 Tails Naruto and used a sealing jutsu to beat 4 Tails Naruto while Orochimaru just sent him away and ran away-Yamato was the one who had to calm him down.
@joshuachudley1270
@joshuachudley1270 9 ай бұрын
You also have to remember jiriya wasn't hindered when he fought 4 tails naruto and almost died.... where Orochimaru was able to keep 4 tails naruto a bay, without his hands, because of Hiruzen so he couldn't use any of strong jutsu
@Camera728
@Camera728 9 ай бұрын
Jiraiya wasn'y fighting 4 tails, he was containing 4 tails and making sure it doesn't get hurt. That's a huge difference.
@artypyrec4186
@artypyrec4186 9 ай бұрын
​@@joshuachudley1270pretty sure Jiraya wasn't trying to kill Naruto. He had to fight the 4 tail cloak without harming Naruto or let it harm others.
@daPsychoNinja
@daPsychoNinja 9 ай бұрын
​@@Camera728 orochimaru also wasn't trying to kill naruto, killing him would be useless for body snatching or experimentation , because kurama would be released on death. That's another reason not to kill him as well.
@edwinsolis5710
@edwinsolis5710 9 ай бұрын
@@joshuachudley1270What? Orochi clearly can use his hands again when he fought 4 Tails Naruto. He literally punched 4 Tails and used Jutsu to block the tailed beast bomb. Orochimaru did worse than Jiraiya because Jiraiya actually managed to supress the 4 Tails and Orochimaru only pushed it back
@ScrapperTBP
@ScrapperTBP 9 ай бұрын
Nick I am sending you my medical bill. I took a shot every time you said toe to toe in this video and now I am having my stomach pumped
@x3nn0n2
@x3nn0n2 9 ай бұрын
Ooooo Nick is doing vs battles now... Dangerous path to take shits about to get controversial I can't wait
@edforeman92
@edforeman92 9 ай бұрын
Nice to have you back. I hope you enjoy your trip to China and Spain.
@Emerald_Kere
@Emerald_Kere 9 ай бұрын
Your intros and outros are always perfect 😅😅..... You had to give him a win😂😂😂
@emhuerta
@emhuerta 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate The details on this hypothetical fight. I was thinking some things. And then you touched on those during your explanations
@siriele2x3
@siriele2x3 9 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for so long. You even exolained why certain people didn't worry about genjutsu. Like...why madara never tried it on hashirama. He knew it wouldn't work
@KongBuds
@KongBuds 8 ай бұрын
You’re a blessing brother. I don’t even like Naruto. BUT… have seen it and both these characters happen to be my favorites
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 9 ай бұрын
If we're talking about 4th Great Ninja War Orochimaru, then he stomps.
@professorjames317
@professorjames317 9 ай бұрын
Fuck no 😂
@SlayingSin
@SlayingSin 9 ай бұрын
Orchimaru stomped Tsunade and Jiraiya simultaneously without any jutsu or arms in OG Naruto. It wasn't even close. The only reason why Orchimaru lost, is because Naruto is OP.
@405blackice8
@405blackice8 9 ай бұрын
No but everyone knows the saying don’t fuck with the old man in amine and the old man in the line of work where they die young 💯
@sortrec7718
@sortrec7718 9 ай бұрын
im sorry orochimaru isn't beating 4 paths of pain
@oreoteabaggins6184
@oreoteabaggins6184 9 ай бұрын
@@SlayingSinbut jiraiya was poisoned and could barely mold chakra at all so they were probably equally nerfed
@jaykun182
@jaykun182 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing Jiraiya justice! Good and very fair video
@iseeh8ers
@iseeh8ers 9 ай бұрын
Did you just assign orchimaru pro nouns 🤣
@nessatic
@nessatic 9 ай бұрын
He loves his headcanon.
@NekoChanRules
@NekoChanRules 9 ай бұрын
They/them works pretty well for Orochimaru if you consider that they don't care about gender presentation and will gladly operate within a physically 'male or female' body without issue either way. It's a valid headcanon all things considered
@nessatic
@nessatic 9 ай бұрын
@@NekoChanRules Not really. I don’t think Orochimaru cares which gender you see him as. By referring to him in that way, you’re just doing it to fulfill your own desires, not his. He simply wouldn’t care about it like that.
@Witch_King_Ken
@Witch_King_Ken 8 ай бұрын
​@@nessatic Do you need a hug?? You seem bitter about something
@Soul_evacuated_Ian
@Soul_evacuated_Ian 9 ай бұрын
These 2 characters are the definition of power crept. Jaraiya went from being a man that could go toe to toe with Kisame and Itachi, to someone who would lose to Kisame quite badly. Orchimaru went from being this huge master of countless ninjutsu to just this creepy dude that just won’t die.
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 9 ай бұрын
???? I mean like yes there is power creep in the story but nothing Kisame has in terms of feats in the story prove he'd be able to win against Jiriya making his initial statement correct that he'd loose. The best case scenario for Kisame by the end of Shippuden has him just below Orochimaru and Jiriya. As for an Itachi & kisame vs Jiriya matchup, Jiriya has specific abilities that let him take on almost any number of opponent thanks to his various Barriers, Toad summoning's and Frog song if he is in sage mode. Not only that even when on deaths doors in his fight with Pain Fugaku confirmed Jiriya could have escaped despite being in the middle of enemy territory and against Pain himself. So the statement "it wouldn't matter if we call in reinforcements" is proven out on both accounts, he either could have fled with Naruto no matter what the Akatuski did or potentially wiped them all out if he managed to land a Frog Song in sage mode. Jiriya has a lot of hacks abilities especially ones that let him fight multiple opponents at the same time.
@Valllentine
@Valllentine 9 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe that post 4th great war/Boruto Orochimaru can't use sage mode, dude literally has one of the strongest bodies ever
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 ай бұрын
It's not just about the body. KZbinr is just want. Orochimaru is basically not worthy. And can't get into that calm and clarity that sage mode requires. Cause he's out of his mind.
@sufferingmp4102
@sufferingmp4102 8 ай бұрын
0:33 Griffith and Berserk. Ah yes, Berserk. The protagonist of the manga Berserk. My favourite part is when he says I’M GOING BERSERK and berserks all over the place
@jaredlyan7037
@jaredlyan7037 7 ай бұрын
Referring to Orochimaru to They/Them is driving me nuts. Did he come out at Trans/Gender-fluid or is this just a thing fan’s decided was his identity
@TheDeadGunslinger
@TheDeadGunslinger 4 ай бұрын
There is a single line, in Boruto, when he says he is both mother and father to mitski (however you spell it). But he's always referred to as "he" in the manga and anime.
@ScorpionismZero
@ScorpionismZero 4 ай бұрын
He is literally a GENDER less snake you can say HE SHE THEY IT or WHATEVER it’s a fictional ANIME they aren’t bound to human English grammar practices or gender norms for fuck sakes
@Astutedragoon
@Astutedragoon 20 күн бұрын
The way I see it, people who DO refer to orochimaru as “they” is because he uses another persons body to take over as his own? Or atleast used to before getting the white zetzu body. I haven’t watched much of boruto yet so idk if they came out with some other reason I am yet to hear of
@AlvaroArturoNunez
@AlvaroArturoNunez 6 күн бұрын
This guy is just woke bro, half way through the video I got tired of hearing this confusing speech and clicked on the Seth the programmer video instead
@4dojo
@4dojo 5 күн бұрын
@AlvaroArturoNunez You do realize that it isn’t even about gender identity with Orochimaru? Orochimaru has literally biologically been both male and female multiple times. That’s why Orochimaru’s own “child” doesn’t know whether to put Orochimaru down as mother or father. Even Orochimaru doesn’t know how to define it.
@Jdmorris143
@Jdmorris143 9 ай бұрын
I forgot that scene where Orochimaru gave Jiraiya a hickey.
@wisdomdude2701
@wisdomdude2701 9 ай бұрын
Calling orochimaru "they" through the whole video confused the hell out of me😂
@pindorama2609
@pindorama2609 9 ай бұрын
Why is he though? Haven't found any source confirming that orochimaru has preferred pronouns, or even subscribes to this ideology.
@wisdomdude2701
@wisdomdude2701 9 ай бұрын
@@pindorama2609 ok? I'm just saying the word "they" used to refer to two or more people.
@jaykun182
@jaykun182 8 ай бұрын
I felt the same. But I'm guessing cause oorochimaru, has taken over female bodies as well. So God knows what he is at this point. Lol
@wisdomdude2701
@wisdomdude2701 8 ай бұрын
@@jaykun182 it's just because orochimaru was never specified to be a man or woman 🤷
@jaykun182
@jaykun182 8 ай бұрын
@@wisdomdude2701 he definitely was. They call him he throughout the show.
@michealbounds550
@michealbounds550 9 ай бұрын
NCHammer must know Flying Raijin, cause he was in Spain in the last video. 🙃
@oscarlinderbrandt6870
@oscarlinderbrandt6870 9 ай бұрын
I read the first part of your sentence and thought you meant his talking speed. Bro blitzes through subjects with ease
@michealbounds550
@michealbounds550 9 ай бұрын
@@oscarlinderbrandt6870 Considering that I listen to his videos at 2x speed, that's also true. 😆
@paintbrush6035
@paintbrush6035 8 ай бұрын
Orochimaru was originally a guy and has the mentality of a guy. He is a guy inside of a white zetsu now
@professorpengu502
@professorpengu502 8 ай бұрын
Yes but he also has 2 souls in his body at most points and his true form is literally a swarm of many snakes
@paintbrush6035
@paintbrush6035 8 ай бұрын
@@professorpengu502 okay I get it. In the most literal sense he is actually a they at all times
@user-xw4mu6nz4t
@user-xw4mu6nz4t 9 ай бұрын
A somewhat minor feat for Orochimaru that'd I'd like to add is after the Sannin fight Hanzo, whilst all three of them are "still standing", Orochimaru is the only one who's standing without support as Tsunade and Jiraiya are leaning on each other
@pułkownikkaczodziobyzpodlasia
@pułkownikkaczodziobyzpodlasia 9 ай бұрын
I wish we got the fight between these two men, it would have been awesome
@jennatolls1111
@jennatolls1111 9 ай бұрын
No way bro. I was sick when the Jiraya Vs Itachi video came out, and today, this video comes out while Im sick. Crazy
@LunarSniperWifle
@LunarSniperWifle 9 ай бұрын
Unrelated to the videos content itself (great stuff btw) your eyelashes are really poppin!!! Makes your eyes look amazing and stand out.
@SuperWindsage
@SuperWindsage 8 ай бұрын
its a shame we diddnt get more fights from Jirayia. show us more of his arsenal.
@habitatshredder
@habitatshredder 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is a man, how is hard is that to understand my dude? STOP saying they/their
@mugetsurenbu
@mugetsurenbu 9 ай бұрын
Nick: "In this Legendary battle of Sannin who comes out on top?" Me: "Tsunade 😏"
@professorpengu502
@professorpengu502 8 ай бұрын
Tsunade is definetly a top
@IsaiahWayne2104
@IsaiahWayne2104 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru can't even escape Itachi's Genjutsu. I think he'll be caught off guard against Jiraiya's Genjutsu.
@Kyspussy974
@Kyspussy974 9 ай бұрын
Itachis genjutsu is better than jiraiyas genjutsu tho
@Jason_Smith609
@Jason_Smith609 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Jiraiya stares itatchi right in the eyes every time they encounter each other.
@ZeroGoofs
@ZeroGoofs 9 ай бұрын
@@Kyspussy974no it’s not, sound based genjutsu is op asf in the narutoverse
@zephirol4638
@zephirol4638 9 ай бұрын
@@ZeroGoofs It absolutely is. The fact sound is more versatile does not make it stronger.
@Diversagon
@Diversagon 9 ай бұрын
Dog nobody escapes Itachi
@hunterackerman1697
@hunterackerman1697 9 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Jiriaya would fall to the same problem as Naruto in most of his fights against Sasuke, that he'd hold back from killing him, because of their shared past, only for Orochimaru to have no qualms against that. Also you didn't mention the Edo Tensei against Jiriaya.
@fucknames
@fucknames 9 ай бұрын
Cuz it’s him vs orochimaru why would orochimaru just summon the first hokage to do everything for him would be very boring
@AlexandruEduardHatfaludi-jf9sc
@AlexandruEduardHatfaludi-jf9sc 6 ай бұрын
Quick question, why do you refer to Orochimaru as "they" ? It sounds like he has multiple persons/personalities inside
@leetoman9287
@leetoman9287 9 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to get the props and info orochi deserves. Gotta be my favorite character
@nickolaspatrick3523
@nickolaspatrick3523 9 ай бұрын
Bro, you're literally the GOAT of Naruto/boruto/animé content. I look forward to seeing your content everyday
@BustahScruggz
@BustahScruggz 8 ай бұрын
This just reminds me how crazy it is that orochimaru still can summon, use his snake and body swapping jutsus even after the hokage used the reaper death seal 😅
@VishalSingh-st5xd
@VishalSingh-st5xd 9 ай бұрын
1) Manda had the upper hand on bunta and it was tsunade who stabbed manda. 2) U didn't considered reanimation in their fight 3) When oro left leaf jiraya confronted him but wasn't able to stop him. Also during the sanin deadlock it was 2v1 against oro with each sanin being nerfed, then too he gave them a tough fight. 4) Why refering orochimaru as they😅.
@laxelford3533
@laxelford3533 9 ай бұрын
Because there was a gag in boruto where Mitsuki asked Orochimaru if he was his mom or dad. From what I have found it was intended to be a joke as he is neither because mitsuki is a clone. Also Orochimaru swaps bodies and he has done it with men and women. So certain people in the fan base consider him nonbinary, I can't find official proof of this since in Japanese he usually get male honorifics , and it doesn't seem to be confirmed. He also appears androgynous. I'm usually annoyed by the pronoun game but in this case I can see it. Because you can say they and he and both work
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 9 ай бұрын
1) Manda while aggressive wasn't able to do any harm to either of their summons, but yes it was Tsunade who stabbed him, the casual collab fireball jutsu from Jiriya and Bunta outclasses anything he can do though. 2) Orochimaru probably wouldn't have time to get it off since Jiriya is a more physical fighter and his insanely fast aoe moves like Lions Mane that could help prevent him from preforming the technique. Even then his barrier Jutsu and better sealing jutsu gives him more options to deal with Edo Tensai than Hiruzen had. 3) We never get to see the fight in full but Jiriya was trying to stop Orochimaru from leaving not kill him, he was nerfed in a similar manner to Naruto vs Sasuke fight. But either way it was many years before even the Chunin exams so it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
@VishalSingh-st5xd
@VishalSingh-st5xd 9 ай бұрын
@@BigHeadClan manda easily escaped through the Collab fireball so I don't think it outclasses him. Even the lion Mane didn't helped jiraya as oro was able to extend his neck to attack. So whatever attacks u gave to jiraya was already shown being countered by oro.
@Darkmagecurt
@Darkmagecurt 8 ай бұрын
Also jiraiya was nerfed because he literally got drugged by tsunade but yea go off. Jiraiya legit prolly had sage mode by the time of this fight. He's like Naruto and never wanted orochimaru dead young.
@VishalSingh-st5xd
@VishalSingh-st5xd 8 ай бұрын
@@Darkmagecurt talking about nerfs, orochimaru didn't had his hands. Even he had his hydra form and reanimation. Tho jiraya or Naruto didn't wanted to kill but they weren't even able to captured them. Even in part 1 tsunade with an intent to kill wasn't able to do it.
@sippinsyrup
@sippinsyrup 9 ай бұрын
Never thought nick would bring up Berserk. I can rest easy now
@msharp6887
@msharp6887 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is not a @they”, he his canonically a man
@professorpengu502
@professorpengu502 8 ай бұрын
What is an "@they"
@msharp6887
@msharp6887 8 ай бұрын
@@professorpengu502 typo. It was supposed to say “they”
@vb6523
@vb6523 Ай бұрын
To be honest at this Point Orochimaru propably went through so many bodies that 'they' is the most fitting word. The Spirit is Male, the Body is whatever. Also Clones. Also snakes. Like Look at that eightheaded snake Hydra and Tell me the gender Has any relevancy there.
@msharp6887
@msharp6887 Ай бұрын
@@vb6523 ….i will grant you a maybe
@jaredevers6459
@jaredevers6459 9 ай бұрын
Now imagine if Hiruzen had raised Naruto like he had promised Minato he would.
@JamesPain1203
@JamesPain1203 9 ай бұрын
Who the f**k is they and them. Orochimura is 1 person. Its really throwing me off😂😂😂 He's a dude, just same he and him damn.
@nessatic
@nessatic 9 ай бұрын
tell 'em
@THEShoky
@THEShoky 9 ай бұрын
Correct!
@briandiaz2814
@briandiaz2814 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@chance2110
@chance2110 8 ай бұрын
It’s a joke because Orichimaru is a Famother
@Abandex369
@Abandex369 2 ай бұрын
​@@chance2110joke at the expense of clarity
@mikelozano1449
@mikelozano1449 9 ай бұрын
Personal head cannon says that jiriaya wasn’t prepared or “flexing” when hit by tsunade so he took more damage. Orochi was definitely on guard and bracing himself from tsunades attacks 🤷🏽‍♂️
@cngotham4111
@cngotham4111 9 ай бұрын
Bruh either way orchimaru osnway more durable then orchimaru. Head Canon orchimaru wpuld only due to narutos tail beast bomb was because he was weakened all ready and a healthy orchimaru would be fine
@thabomanamela490
@thabomanamela490 9 ай бұрын
you forgot to add hashirama and tobirama as orochimarus summonings, since hiruzen had to use reaper death seal to take them out while he was fighting a weaker orochimaru, i would argue that orochimaru would probably end up winning because of that added on to everything else you've mentioned
@susear5939
@susear5939 9 ай бұрын
That would be true if we took the Hiruzen fight Orochimaru. Timeline wise Nick used the Orochimaru from the time of when they tried taking over Sasuke to when Itachi sealed them. Gave them a healthy body. Nick mentions Manda 2 over and over cus Manda died from the injuries of Deidara's C0. That means the Hokage aren't available either. Fun fact: Orochimaru & Jiraya died/got sealed the same day. Sasuke vs Itachi and Jiraya vs Pain took place simultaneously.
@StickMasterKai
@StickMasterKai 9 ай бұрын
I agree, it’s wild to see him not mention Edo Tensei, one of Orochimaru jutsus that I believe no other person can use besides Tobirama. Not sure if Jiriyah has a counter against the 1st,2nd,3d,4th hokage. Nick mentions Jiriyah using sage mode with Ma and Pa, you might as well mention Orochimaru Edo Tensei that can “revive” the past hokages or any other person to counter him. I believe that feat is crazy op and unique
@MyBeardBro
@MyBeardBro 9 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that you think that Jiraiya doesn't know the snake of the hidden leaf has the edo and don't know how to stop it which he can. put him under genjutsu he's done or put him in a frog's belly and reverse summon it and burn the contract done and done.
@Viroh
@Viroh 9 ай бұрын
​@@StickMasterKaiKabuto
@Viroh
@Viroh 9 ай бұрын
​@@MyBeardBroyea and Orochimaru just stabs Jiraiya with kusanagi sword and it's done
@StrongzGamez
@StrongzGamez 8 ай бұрын
took me 12min to realize you were saying they/them referring to Orochimaru 😅🤣
@dionysisnance4204
@dionysisnance4204 9 ай бұрын
All orochimaru has to do is be in his girl form to give jiraiya a truly deadly noise bleed
@Gameplayernumber1
@Gameplayernumber1 9 ай бұрын
Only real answer
@lucario2able
@lucario2able 9 ай бұрын
Heck even better, Orochimaru could just transform use Sexy Jutsu and use Tsunades image haha.
@kylelargin9528
@kylelargin9528 9 ай бұрын
Possibly theory, could jiraiya be Edotensied using kashin kojis DNA. They are the same person genetically
@jakemoore5077
@jakemoore5077 9 ай бұрын
I'd assume their souls are different, like if they were identical twins, I'd say.
@kylelargin9528
@kylelargin9528 9 ай бұрын
@@jakemoore5077 but that's also under the assumption that kashin koji has a soul
@jaybrester3838
@jaybrester3838 9 ай бұрын
Keep doing content like this!! Love the vid, glad you brought it back!
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 9 ай бұрын
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick love the video
@OFFICIALMAJMUSIC
@OFFICIALMAJMUSIC 9 ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown, per usual! This was a great one.
@joelking8588
@joelking8588 5 ай бұрын
No way youre referring to an anime character as a they… what has this world come to
@jonathancamargo3455
@jonathancamargo3455 4 ай бұрын
This gotta be the most cornball response I've ever seen, have you even seen Orochimaru? Lost brain cells trying to understand how you're so easily triggered 🤡
@willred7265
@willred7265 3 ай бұрын
I mean, orochimaru has been reincarnated as women men and neither so ‘they’ kinda does fit
@brettwilliamson7129
@brettwilliamson7129 9 ай бұрын
Idk when Tsunade hit orochimaru that was combat. When Tsunade hit Jaraiya. She hit him like a woman scorned, that's a different strength. Point being I don't think Tunades hit was trying to hit him to kill but to injure. I think she legit tried to kill jaraiya for peeping.
@ryanjames8000
@ryanjames8000 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is WASHING jiraiya and it’s literally no competition. I do love me some jiraiya tho
@runeplay2
@runeplay2 9 ай бұрын
Well, one of the arguments about Jiraya nearly dying to Tsunade, we never know if it's when he's older and more experienced, or younger and possibly even pre-Hanzo fight tho...
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere 9 ай бұрын
Bro is calling Orochimaru "they/them" 😂
@willsinko4236
@willsinko4236 9 ай бұрын
That’s cause they are
@BusterOlsen
@BusterOlsen 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is referred to as him by his peers though. It's Naruto fans that push the trans agenda that made him nonbinary. Not saying it's a big deal or anything, just giving clarity
@THEShoky
@THEShoky 9 ай бұрын
​@@willsinko4236no, he isn't.
@dillonsparks115
@dillonsparks115 9 ай бұрын
I thinks it's because orochimaru has taken female body's not just male body's so to be fair
@willsinko4236
@willsinko4236 8 ай бұрын
By the time Boruto came around Orochimaru does not refer to themselves as any gender nor do the people around them. They also call themselves mitsuki's parent, not father. I beleive orochimaru is non-binary now.@@BusterOlsen
@THEShoky
@THEShoky 9 ай бұрын
I'm amazed by all the people in the comments misgendering Orochimaru. Nick says they/them is a they/them its true. Much like how he says Jiraya would win. (No, but seriously he's a he. Don't at me)
@jeriblaster
@jeriblaster 4 ай бұрын
lol why does it keep calling oriochimaru them they ? cant watch the video like this
@Abandex369
@Abandex369 2 ай бұрын
Too confusing
@King_Cong27
@King_Cong27 9 ай бұрын
Nick really said “Griffith & Berserk” come on man
@Iceman-xq9pe
@Iceman-xq9pe 9 ай бұрын
They literally fought in the anime and jiraiya lost trying to bring Orichimaru back to the village. This guy just loves Jiraiya at this point. Should’ve expected this since he said itachi would lose to him
@Vinnymanvinny1
@Vinnymanvinny1 6 ай бұрын
Funny that the data book has jiraiya as stronger than orochimaru
@goodlyrics2462
@goodlyrics2462 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think Orochimaru fought Sasori when he was weakened because he weaved hand signs to use the Edo Tensei.
@DrDox-jz2qi
@DrDox-jz2qi 9 ай бұрын
Nick, Manda actually was about to eat Gamabunta and Tsunade saved him impaling Manda through the top of his mouth. Also, didn't finished the video yet but I suspect a little Jiraya bias 😂😂. Also, in 4 tails fight Oro rebirth was used 2 or 3 times
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 9 ай бұрын
Heavy Jiraiya bias.
@shaquilleochoshelby9761
@shaquilleochoshelby9761 6 ай бұрын
Does anybody think it's funny that we thought taking the arms away from A GUY WHO THINKS HE'S A SNAKE would be a real nerf
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru beats Jiraiya handily. He didn't even talk about Edo Tensei. Sage Mode needs preparation time he won't have in battle of normal environment. Jiraiya's strongest jutsu is literally tanked by Orochimaru (assuming he'll have the mobility and chance to hit him with it). He can't be killed.
@MyBeardBro
@MyBeardBro 9 ай бұрын
Jiraiya doesn't need prep time he has mom and pops and Jiraiya didn't use his strongest attack against that slippery snake because one of he's strongest attack is with mom and pops or and he's summoning abilities.
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 9 ай бұрын
@@MyBeardBro He does, he needed to seclude himself in a tunnel for minutes. I never said anything of not using his strongest against Orochimaru.
@barbarrox
@barbarrox 9 ай бұрын
Itschi is stronger than obito and nagsto stated multiple times even by kishimoto himself in the authors note. So many errors in this videos who is this clown lmao
@UltimateMustacheX
@UltimateMustacheX 9 ай бұрын
If you don't have a friend in Guantanamo Bay... you might be that friend.
@MrGordo730
@MrGordo730 9 ай бұрын
The fact that orochimaru has to be nerfed so much to make this fight close to fair tells us who is the better ninja
@lucario2able
@lucario2able 9 ай бұрын
I mean in large part that because while Jiraiya was ded Orochi got amped tf up lmfao.
@MrGordo730
@MrGordo730 9 ай бұрын
@@lucario2able Honestly though, even if he stayed alive, he had no way of catching up to orochimaru anyway 🤷‍♂️
@lucario2able
@lucario2able 9 ай бұрын
@@MrGordo730 we don't know that lmfao. He didn't even have Perfect Sage mode yet when he died and hadn't put chakra releases into rasengan yet. He wasn't done he just spent his time on his... passions in life lop.
@totalyhonest6580
@totalyhonest6580 9 ай бұрын
Gotta like how Nick is switching from He to They with orochinaru every 2 minutes
@danielornelas6143
@danielornelas6143 6 ай бұрын
I hate the they/them bullshit!
@ScorpionismZero
@ScorpionismZero 4 ай бұрын
Cope
@black.sasuke.uchiha
@black.sasuke.uchiha 8 ай бұрын
Dang, editor really got everything he could out of that clip of Oro punching 4-tailed Naruto.
@laynchautin6516
@laynchautin6516 9 ай бұрын
Why do you keep call him they bro it’s only one person
@TurboTimTravels
@TurboTimTravels 9 ай бұрын
Think this is a pretty fair assessment.
@brycebranch9639
@brycebranch9639 9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is a he not a they. Don't know why u had to go and gender swap him.
@jades5772
@jades5772 9 ай бұрын
Because He is both male and female he has used a female body before But his birth gender was male
@brycebranch9639
@brycebranch9639 9 ай бұрын
@jades5772 so at 1 point he was a she, and went back to he and stayed he but because years ago he was she now he's they? Ur making a political statement
@jades5772
@jades5772 9 ай бұрын
@@brycebranch9639 it seems like it because He dont lose the other capitylitys
@justenfraser913
@justenfraser913 9 ай бұрын
He just tryna stay away from ppl getting mad for no reason
@reyband141
@reyband141 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes the person who literally switches bodies with people can only be deemed a man
@andyd8284
@andyd8284 9 ай бұрын
Hey idk if you knew that jiraya and orochimaru actually fought when orochimaru leave the village,it was offscreen but the outcome of that fight was that jiraya couldn’t bring him back,just like the 1st naruto vs sasuke fight it ended probably the same way,either jiraya won and orochimaru escaped or orochimaru won and had mercy on his former comrade like sasuke did with Naruto on their 1st encounter,this happens on jiraya’s tales on his fight against pain on his regrets in his life….
@pandamonium9529
@pandamonium9529 9 ай бұрын
Accidentally says he and his a bunch 😂. Enough with the they/them crap.
@waddledeez5084
@waddledeez5084 9 ай бұрын
5:55 wow based NCHammer out of nowhere lol
@MVLIKXCIII
@MVLIKXCIII 9 ай бұрын
lets play a game! take a shot every time he says Orochimaru
@davon186
@davon186 9 ай бұрын
Your research into the series is unrivaled. Really props to you. The only criticism I have is that you call orochimaru a they or them when it’s clearly stated throughout the entire series that he is a he. Even though he did take over the body of women here and there. He always remained a he and was referred to as he. Often it was stated “his next vessel”.
@THEShoky
@THEShoky 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was about to say the same thing.
@scootbacksome3245
@scootbacksome3245 9 ай бұрын
Cause Boruto
@creamyjeans72
@creamyjeans72 9 ай бұрын
I'm so happy there's someone in the community who gives jiriyah his props he gets shit on way to much. Everyone else just glazes oro and says low dif without explaining. Someone finally agrees with me😎
@DeadTopher
@DeadTopher 9 ай бұрын
It's based on Sansukumi-ken. In Mushi-ken, Chinese rock paper scissors, frog beats slug, slug beats snake, snake beats frog. He seems to have flipped it, snake beats slug, slug beats frog, frog beats snake. In the Japanese version, kitsune-kun or tohachiken, Kitsune (supernatural fox) beats village head, village head beats hunter, and hunter beats Kitsune.....Karama, Minato, and Obito.
@ajzekind
@ajzekind 9 ай бұрын
The Sannin that comes out on top is clearly Tsunade.
@mixedbylmg
@mixedbylmg 8 ай бұрын
And I thought Orochimaru had use of his arms at the beginning of shippuden? he had already body transferred because sasuke was late.
@Ka1zerM
@Ka1zerM 8 ай бұрын
Bro you have a talent of stretching a 5-10 minutes video all the way to half an hour
@rreed
@rreed 8 ай бұрын
Ever consider doing stat cards for each character when you're facing them off so we can get a overall viewSo we can see how you feel about all characters also compare to other characrers.
@rreed
@rreed 8 ай бұрын
Ahh just made it to the full end, I strike this idea from the suggestion box
@zachlindquist999
@zachlindquist999 9 ай бұрын
Are we just going to overlook the fact that Nick might know someone in Guantanamo bay?
@NoobSebot
@NoobSebot 8 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is basically a super tank. He invested all his points in to defense
@Kobofromda512
@Kobofromda512 9 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video! Please do more versus battles in the future! Especially do one featuring Kabuto vs Obito
@mecahhannah
@mecahhannah 9 ай бұрын
Awesome as always thanks ❤
@normalityfailure6380
@normalityfailure6380 9 ай бұрын
Your videos are always so interesting and entertaining, but if you could talk a tiny bit slower I would be able to follow what you're saying easier. You talk so fast that my brain struggles to keep up 😅
@johntleimat7652
@johntleimat7652 9 ай бұрын
Love your videos, you really understand Kishimoto and the story line. I love all your content, your brilliant. I have an idea I thought about for your next video. Ranking dads in the Naruto verse. I'd like to start the ranking off with #1 MVD (most valuable dad) Shukaku and in 2nd probably Minato.
@S197sam
@S197sam 9 ай бұрын
Love the content🤟🏻 literally watch all you videos
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