It's sad that Jiraya didnt live long enought to see Orochimaru comeing back to good side. Imagine him meeting Log and Mitsuki. 😭😭😭
@sephirian6889 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say Orochimaru is on the good side.
@fr0stdr4ke959 ай бұрын
@@sephirian688 At best he just isn't entirely evil anymore. He doesn't do anything illegal. As long as no one thinks about it too hard.
@TheDominic749 ай бұрын
He is more like a chaotic neutral character.
@sephirian6889 ай бұрын
@@fr0stdr4ke95agreed not a good guy but not necessarily evil anymore. Like he is technically under house arrest in Boruto because Naruto doesn’t really trust him to not do evil stuff lol
@Səv9 ай бұрын
Current Orochimaru is....neutral
@Prince_Luci9 ай бұрын
I think they could still touch on this in Boruto. Yamato reports Orochimaru blatantly leaves his home arrest. Naruto tells him not to pursue he knows where he is. He finds orochimaru paying his respects at the grave of his greatest rival.
@squilliamfancyson35529 ай бұрын
that would be pretty cool bro to see him at jiraiyas grave sight
@nicoencarnacion18838 ай бұрын
That hit me in the feels a lot more than I thought it would. I like it. Headcanon for now.
@AnujSingh-qo4ep8 ай бұрын
Didn’t they take Jiraiya’s body for Kashin Koji though? I could be wrong so don’t lash out pls. 😢😢
@HeroSword_P7 ай бұрын
Orochimaru has never done anything sentimental like that lol
@kingteddieP45 ай бұрын
@@HeroSword_P that's why this would be touching to see
@SpammytheHedgehog9 ай бұрын
What I have realized is that both Jiraiya and Orochimaru have clones. Mitsuki and Kashin Koji.
@BlazeRequiem9 ай бұрын
….
@LokiTheClever9 ай бұрын
And the power difference is roughly the opposite of their original templates (Kashin being the stronger one in this case)
@sonnywilson7489 ай бұрын
@@LokiTheCleverno. Current mitsuki spanks kashin
@psypsy7519 ай бұрын
Let's be real, all the main OG Naruto characters have clones in Boruto...
@reozen179 ай бұрын
@@sonnywilson748 he was saying that their powers are opposite of the person they are copied from As in mitsuki was weaker than orochimaru and kashin kogi is stronger than jiraya
@tomchester229 ай бұрын
It was actually Tsunade who pinned Manda to the ground with the sword in the 3way deadlock
@IsaiahWayne21049 ай бұрын
I realized that Tsunade is the only Sannin that doesn't have a clone.
@JoeyGiles-g4g9 ай бұрын
Sakura be like 😮…. Jk jk I’m a sakura Stan don’t attack me
@cameronsalas20919 ай бұрын
Sakura trainer enough under Tsunade to basically be here clone just different DNA 🤣
@Damienshamien9 ай бұрын
Yet
@dotmurda9 ай бұрын
@@JoeyGiles-g4g 😂🤣😂🤣😭😭😭
@dotmurda9 ай бұрын
And Jiraya the only one not trying to hide his age 🤔
@sprice27199 ай бұрын
Gotta take into consideration that jaraiya was not trying to hurt naruto in 4tails Cloak Oorochimaru was not trying to kill Itachi, he wanted to take over his body
@3Rayfire8 ай бұрын
Well, we actually saw both of the fights and they were pretty instantaneous stomps. In the first Itachi pinned him in a Sharingan genjutsu before he could even get off his first attack and then cut off his arm. The second, he decapitated seven of the eight heads of the Eight Branches technique and then absorbed and sealed him with Totsuka no Tsurugi, Itachi did not waste time. Orochimaru not wanting to kill Itachi made zero difference in the outcome.
@blackcoffeguzzlerАй бұрын
@@3Rayfire It was bad writing. Realistically, there's no reason Orochimaru wouldn't put up a better fight against Itachi. Itachi feared Jiraiya, and Oro was much, much more powerful than Jiraiya. The "stomps" were just bad writing.
@insanelyred71019 ай бұрын
I still miss jiraiya all these years later
@kleatise529 ай бұрын
That’s why he came back as a clone because his toad arts are the best and most classic combat scenes to watch
@AJ__5259 ай бұрын
@@kleatise52*penis wiener* 😩
@DaySun889 ай бұрын
I accept the clone all right But the old man could still be alive the time traveling turtle could’ve saved him right😢😢😢😢
@kjthagawd56199 ай бұрын
koji kashin in boruto is really cool to watch, and he’ll definitely get his jiraya memories back since it was teased a while ago. I just can’t wait for the naruto reunion
@DaySun889 ай бұрын
@@kjthagawd5619 I really hope so. I got real empathy for these characters. They’ve been through so much trauma and they deserve to come back to life and see the peace that’s been created. I know the plot might be a little tarnished by characters coming back but I don’t care.😢😢😢 I really hope Sasuke brother is still alive. Somehow I know it’s ridiculous but that poor boy he was just a kid when he died.
@Rizzlordofthesea9 ай бұрын
Ah yes Griffith and berserk the most iconic of age old rivalries
@MAGENUKE3 ай бұрын
Exactly lmaoo
@aidanastillaАй бұрын
came here to the comments just for that lol
@kumaamos36489 ай бұрын
They’re Griffith & Guts, Nick…With love.
@RegnarBM9 ай бұрын
I laughed a bit more than I probably should 😂
@MostlyHappyGaming9 ай бұрын
I always have to question when he does something like that if it’s an actual blind spot or an engagement driver. He’s admitted to it a couple times in either shorts or the podcast, but never the exact thing.
@RegnarBM9 ай бұрын
@@MostlyHappyGaming oh I haven’t seen a video where he agrees on it, but hey, makes sense!
@nickboaz96299 ай бұрын
It's worse when he calls orichimaru a they. Even worse when he gets confused and calls him a he afterwards lol
@MostlyHappyGaming9 ай бұрын
@@nickboaz9629 ehh, Orochimaru was definitely male at some point, but is using a female body at the moment, and does not seem to have a strong connection to either gender, so they works fairly well for them.
@simplyamazingtoptens61648 ай бұрын
That los santos customs joke was even better than it normally would be because i was screwing around in gta 5 while listening to this video😂
@charliekelly14359 ай бұрын
Is orichimaru ever once called they/them in manga? Because I know he is for sure referred to as he multiple times so I’m confused where you get the whole calling him “they” thing? Him stealing a girls body doesn’t make him no longer himself lol.
@fucknames9 ай бұрын
It’s a joke it’s not that serious lol
@nessatic9 ай бұрын
Of course, not.
@Itachi_Hibachi8 ай бұрын
facts
@davidgooding31438 ай бұрын
I think the joke was that he meant it literally, as in more than one person (constantly taking over other people's bodies), not a joke about his androgenous look.
@dlamini778 ай бұрын
It's annoying
@SpammytheHedgehog9 ай бұрын
Both Orochimaru and Jiraiya are Imperfect Sages.
@LokiTheClever9 ай бұрын
I mean technically Orochimaru couldn't even properly use sage mode, the last body he has in the war arc got majorly amped.
@superjedi42069 ай бұрын
Orochimaru can't enter sage mode it's stated he couldn't when he was bit by the great snake sage he was lucky to even escape, that's why he made mitsuki
@orochimarupr9 ай бұрын
@@superjedi4206Orochimaru now can enter sage, he has a zetsu body which is better than Mitsuki and kabuto put together
@superjedi42069 ай бұрын
@@orochimarupr yes but this is in response to the video, where it's orochimaru before the zetsu body
@superjedi42069 ай бұрын
@@orochimarupr I should've said but I'm talking about the orochimaru that Nick is using for the versus
@pas84av29 ай бұрын
I thought Tsunade was the one who stabbed Manda through the head with Gamabunta's sword.
@odintheterridorable80979 ай бұрын
This is definitely what actually happened
@Kalebmyg8 ай бұрын
She was
@vidya21442 ай бұрын
It is. But i think in japanese mythology/culture, the toad is considered the better arch-nemesis of the snake.
@seabass8199 ай бұрын
Orochimaru definitely has more jutsu to use, but I think jariya has more raw power, and of course sage mode.
@kanoreese12539 ай бұрын
Jiraiya being almost beaten to death by Tsunade is a common trope in shounen anime. The male allowing himself to be beaten by the female. He didn't try to fight back or defend himself against her, so it doesn't really count.
@ramonsanders6519 ай бұрын
Tsunami literally BROKE madras’s susanoo with one punch
@venomking36029 ай бұрын
@@ramonsanders651so the susanoo is slow jiraiya isn't he's not just going to stand there in a real fight
@Itsuchi29 ай бұрын
Nah stop downplaying Tsunade mate. She’s super OP. Super strength and pretty much immortal with seal. Jiraiya = lost to Pain. Tsunade = caught 5 Susano’o Madara clones and LIVED.
@___________0Z0X9 ай бұрын
@@Itsuchi2 I think the point that he’s trying to make is that they weren’t having a real fight.
@mikewylie25349 ай бұрын
On my point as always couldn't agree more. And you chose the best timeline for comparison to make it fair
@NarutosRasengan59 ай бұрын
I love seeing Orochimaru get some recognition and respect kuz holy shit is that man/woman/whatever tf slept on like the whole fan base just overlooks him or forget about him and it’s like bro is cracked and operates on higher iq than more than 95% of the verse and he’s the all knowing everything while being immortal 🗿also I’d assume he’s great at kenjutsu because sasuke had to learn how to use a sword frm someone👀
@when_butter_flys9 ай бұрын
Yeah same here man I hate seeing him be underrated. He taught sasuke everything that sasuke knows in Shippuden plus the longer he lives the more op he gets.
@D1I.9 ай бұрын
Yeah. And yes, he's one of the top kenjutsu users -Remember his fight against his older clone/son in Boruto. And ofc he teached Sasuke.
@edwinsolis57109 ай бұрын
Reminder that Jiraiya doesn’t have regeneration when fighting Naruto. So he beat 4 Tails Naruto and used a sealing jutsu to beat 4 Tails Naruto while Orochimaru just sent him away and ran away-Yamato was the one who had to calm him down.
@joshuachudley12709 ай бұрын
You also have to remember jiriya wasn't hindered when he fought 4 tails naruto and almost died.... where Orochimaru was able to keep 4 tails naruto a bay, without his hands, because of Hiruzen so he couldn't use any of strong jutsu
@Camera7289 ай бұрын
Jiraiya wasn'y fighting 4 tails, he was containing 4 tails and making sure it doesn't get hurt. That's a huge difference.
@artypyrec41869 ай бұрын
@@joshuachudley1270pretty sure Jiraya wasn't trying to kill Naruto. He had to fight the 4 tail cloak without harming Naruto or let it harm others.
@daPsychoNinja9 ай бұрын
@@Camera728 orochimaru also wasn't trying to kill naruto, killing him would be useless for body snatching or experimentation , because kurama would be released on death. That's another reason not to kill him as well.
@edwinsolis57109 ай бұрын
@@joshuachudley1270What? Orochi clearly can use his hands again when he fought 4 Tails Naruto. He literally punched 4 Tails and used Jutsu to block the tailed beast bomb. Orochimaru did worse than Jiraiya because Jiraiya actually managed to supress the 4 Tails and Orochimaru only pushed it back
@ScrapperTBP9 ай бұрын
Nick I am sending you my medical bill. I took a shot every time you said toe to toe in this video and now I am having my stomach pumped
@x3nn0n29 ай бұрын
Ooooo Nick is doing vs battles now... Dangerous path to take shits about to get controversial I can't wait
@edforeman929 ай бұрын
Nice to have you back. I hope you enjoy your trip to China and Spain.
@Emerald_Kere9 ай бұрын
Your intros and outros are always perfect 😅😅..... You had to give him a win😂😂😂
@emhuerta8 ай бұрын
I appreciate The details on this hypothetical fight. I was thinking some things. And then you touched on those during your explanations
@siriele2x39 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for so long. You even exolained why certain people didn't worry about genjutsu. Like...why madara never tried it on hashirama. He knew it wouldn't work
@KongBuds8 ай бұрын
You’re a blessing brother. I don’t even like Naruto. BUT… have seen it and both these characters happen to be my favorites
@SpammytheHedgehog9 ай бұрын
If we're talking about 4th Great Ninja War Orochimaru, then he stomps.
@professorjames3179 ай бұрын
Fuck no 😂
@SlayingSin9 ай бұрын
Orchimaru stomped Tsunade and Jiraiya simultaneously without any jutsu or arms in OG Naruto. It wasn't even close. The only reason why Orchimaru lost, is because Naruto is OP.
@405blackice89 ай бұрын
No but everyone knows the saying don’t fuck with the old man in amine and the old man in the line of work where they die young 💯
@sortrec77189 ай бұрын
im sorry orochimaru isn't beating 4 paths of pain
@oreoteabaggins61849 ай бұрын
@@SlayingSinbut jiraiya was poisoned and could barely mold chakra at all so they were probably equally nerfed
@jaykun1828 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing Jiraiya justice! Good and very fair video
@iseeh8ers9 ай бұрын
Did you just assign orchimaru pro nouns 🤣
@nessatic9 ай бұрын
He loves his headcanon.
@NekoChanRules9 ай бұрын
They/them works pretty well for Orochimaru if you consider that they don't care about gender presentation and will gladly operate within a physically 'male or female' body without issue either way. It's a valid headcanon all things considered
@nessatic9 ай бұрын
@@NekoChanRules Not really. I don’t think Orochimaru cares which gender you see him as. By referring to him in that way, you’re just doing it to fulfill your own desires, not his. He simply wouldn’t care about it like that.
@Witch_King_Ken8 ай бұрын
@@nessatic Do you need a hug?? You seem bitter about something
@Soul_evacuated_Ian9 ай бұрын
These 2 characters are the definition of power crept. Jaraiya went from being a man that could go toe to toe with Kisame and Itachi, to someone who would lose to Kisame quite badly. Orchimaru went from being this huge master of countless ninjutsu to just this creepy dude that just won’t die.
@BigHeadClan9 ай бұрын
???? I mean like yes there is power creep in the story but nothing Kisame has in terms of feats in the story prove he'd be able to win against Jiriya making his initial statement correct that he'd loose. The best case scenario for Kisame by the end of Shippuden has him just below Orochimaru and Jiriya. As for an Itachi & kisame vs Jiriya matchup, Jiriya has specific abilities that let him take on almost any number of opponent thanks to his various Barriers, Toad summoning's and Frog song if he is in sage mode. Not only that even when on deaths doors in his fight with Pain Fugaku confirmed Jiriya could have escaped despite being in the middle of enemy territory and against Pain himself. So the statement "it wouldn't matter if we call in reinforcements" is proven out on both accounts, he either could have fled with Naruto no matter what the Akatuski did or potentially wiped them all out if he managed to land a Frog Song in sage mode. Jiriya has a lot of hacks abilities especially ones that let him fight multiple opponents at the same time.
@Valllentine9 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe that post 4th great war/Boruto Orochimaru can't use sage mode, dude literally has one of the strongest bodies ever
@bobdylan19684 ай бұрын
It's not just about the body. KZbinr is just want. Orochimaru is basically not worthy. And can't get into that calm and clarity that sage mode requires. Cause he's out of his mind.
@sufferingmp41028 ай бұрын
0:33 Griffith and Berserk. Ah yes, Berserk. The protagonist of the manga Berserk. My favourite part is when he says I’M GOING BERSERK and berserks all over the place
@jaredlyan70377 ай бұрын
Referring to Orochimaru to They/Them is driving me nuts. Did he come out at Trans/Gender-fluid or is this just a thing fan’s decided was his identity
@TheDeadGunslinger4 ай бұрын
There is a single line, in Boruto, when he says he is both mother and father to mitski (however you spell it). But he's always referred to as "he" in the manga and anime.
@ScorpionismZero4 ай бұрын
He is literally a GENDER less snake you can say HE SHE THEY IT or WHATEVER it’s a fictional ANIME they aren’t bound to human English grammar practices or gender norms for fuck sakes
@Astutedragoon20 күн бұрын
The way I see it, people who DO refer to orochimaru as “they” is because he uses another persons body to take over as his own? Or atleast used to before getting the white zetzu body. I haven’t watched much of boruto yet so idk if they came out with some other reason I am yet to hear of
@AlvaroArturoNunez6 күн бұрын
This guy is just woke bro, half way through the video I got tired of hearing this confusing speech and clicked on the Seth the programmer video instead
@4dojo5 күн бұрын
@AlvaroArturoNunez You do realize that it isn’t even about gender identity with Orochimaru? Orochimaru has literally biologically been both male and female multiple times. That’s why Orochimaru’s own “child” doesn’t know whether to put Orochimaru down as mother or father. Even Orochimaru doesn’t know how to define it.
@Jdmorris1439 ай бұрын
I forgot that scene where Orochimaru gave Jiraiya a hickey.
@wisdomdude27019 ай бұрын
Calling orochimaru "they" through the whole video confused the hell out of me😂
@pindorama26099 ай бұрын
Why is he though? Haven't found any source confirming that orochimaru has preferred pronouns, or even subscribes to this ideology.
@wisdomdude27019 ай бұрын
@@pindorama2609 ok? I'm just saying the word "they" used to refer to two or more people.
@jaykun1828 ай бұрын
I felt the same. But I'm guessing cause oorochimaru, has taken over female bodies as well. So God knows what he is at this point. Lol
@wisdomdude27018 ай бұрын
@@jaykun182 it's just because orochimaru was never specified to be a man or woman 🤷
@jaykun1828 ай бұрын
@@wisdomdude2701 he definitely was. They call him he throughout the show.
@michealbounds5509 ай бұрын
NCHammer must know Flying Raijin, cause he was in Spain in the last video. 🙃
@oscarlinderbrandt68709 ай бұрын
I read the first part of your sentence and thought you meant his talking speed. Bro blitzes through subjects with ease
@michealbounds5509 ай бұрын
@@oscarlinderbrandt6870 Considering that I listen to his videos at 2x speed, that's also true. 😆
@paintbrush60358 ай бұрын
Orochimaru was originally a guy and has the mentality of a guy. He is a guy inside of a white zetsu now
@professorpengu5028 ай бұрын
Yes but he also has 2 souls in his body at most points and his true form is literally a swarm of many snakes
@paintbrush60358 ай бұрын
@@professorpengu502 okay I get it. In the most literal sense he is actually a they at all times
@user-xw4mu6nz4t9 ай бұрын
A somewhat minor feat for Orochimaru that'd I'd like to add is after the Sannin fight Hanzo, whilst all three of them are "still standing", Orochimaru is the only one who's standing without support as Tsunade and Jiraiya are leaning on each other
@pułkownikkaczodziobyzpodlasia9 ай бұрын
I wish we got the fight between these two men, it would have been awesome
@jennatolls11119 ай бұрын
No way bro. I was sick when the Jiraya Vs Itachi video came out, and today, this video comes out while Im sick. Crazy
@LunarSniperWifle9 ай бұрын
Unrelated to the videos content itself (great stuff btw) your eyelashes are really poppin!!! Makes your eyes look amazing and stand out.
@SuperWindsage8 ай бұрын
its a shame we diddnt get more fights from Jirayia. show us more of his arsenal.
@habitatshredder9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is a man, how is hard is that to understand my dude? STOP saying they/their
@mugetsurenbu9 ай бұрын
Nick: "In this Legendary battle of Sannin who comes out on top?" Me: "Tsunade 😏"
@professorpengu5028 ай бұрын
Tsunade is definetly a top
@IsaiahWayne21049 ай бұрын
Orochimaru can't even escape Itachi's Genjutsu. I think he'll be caught off guard against Jiraiya's Genjutsu.
@Kyspussy9749 ай бұрын
Itachis genjutsu is better than jiraiyas genjutsu tho
@Jason_Smith6099 ай бұрын
Yeah, and Jiraiya stares itatchi right in the eyes every time they encounter each other.
@ZeroGoofs9 ай бұрын
@@Kyspussy974no it’s not, sound based genjutsu is op asf in the narutoverse
@zephirol46389 ай бұрын
@@ZeroGoofs It absolutely is. The fact sound is more versatile does not make it stronger.
@Diversagon9 ай бұрын
Dog nobody escapes Itachi
@hunterackerman16979 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Jiriaya would fall to the same problem as Naruto in most of his fights against Sasuke, that he'd hold back from killing him, because of their shared past, only for Orochimaru to have no qualms against that. Also you didn't mention the Edo Tensei against Jiriaya.
@fucknames9 ай бұрын
Cuz it’s him vs orochimaru why would orochimaru just summon the first hokage to do everything for him would be very boring
@AlexandruEduardHatfaludi-jf9sc6 ай бұрын
Quick question, why do you refer to Orochimaru as "they" ? It sounds like he has multiple persons/personalities inside
@leetoman92879 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to get the props and info orochi deserves. Gotta be my favorite character
@nickolaspatrick35239 ай бұрын
Bro, you're literally the GOAT of Naruto/boruto/animé content. I look forward to seeing your content everyday
@BustahScruggz8 ай бұрын
This just reminds me how crazy it is that orochimaru still can summon, use his snake and body swapping jutsus even after the hokage used the reaper death seal 😅
@VishalSingh-st5xd9 ай бұрын
1) Manda had the upper hand on bunta and it was tsunade who stabbed manda. 2) U didn't considered reanimation in their fight 3) When oro left leaf jiraya confronted him but wasn't able to stop him. Also during the sanin deadlock it was 2v1 against oro with each sanin being nerfed, then too he gave them a tough fight. 4) Why refering orochimaru as they😅.
@laxelford35339 ай бұрын
Because there was a gag in boruto where Mitsuki asked Orochimaru if he was his mom or dad. From what I have found it was intended to be a joke as he is neither because mitsuki is a clone. Also Orochimaru swaps bodies and he has done it with men and women. So certain people in the fan base consider him nonbinary, I can't find official proof of this since in Japanese he usually get male honorifics , and it doesn't seem to be confirmed. He also appears androgynous. I'm usually annoyed by the pronoun game but in this case I can see it. Because you can say they and he and both work
@BigHeadClan9 ай бұрын
1) Manda while aggressive wasn't able to do any harm to either of their summons, but yes it was Tsunade who stabbed him, the casual collab fireball jutsu from Jiriya and Bunta outclasses anything he can do though. 2) Orochimaru probably wouldn't have time to get it off since Jiriya is a more physical fighter and his insanely fast aoe moves like Lions Mane that could help prevent him from preforming the technique. Even then his barrier Jutsu and better sealing jutsu gives him more options to deal with Edo Tensai than Hiruzen had. 3) We never get to see the fight in full but Jiriya was trying to stop Orochimaru from leaving not kill him, he was nerfed in a similar manner to Naruto vs Sasuke fight. But either way it was many years before even the Chunin exams so it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
@VishalSingh-st5xd9 ай бұрын
@@BigHeadClan manda easily escaped through the Collab fireball so I don't think it outclasses him. Even the lion Mane didn't helped jiraya as oro was able to extend his neck to attack. So whatever attacks u gave to jiraya was already shown being countered by oro.
@Darkmagecurt8 ай бұрын
Also jiraiya was nerfed because he literally got drugged by tsunade but yea go off. Jiraiya legit prolly had sage mode by the time of this fight. He's like Naruto and never wanted orochimaru dead young.
@VishalSingh-st5xd8 ай бұрын
@@Darkmagecurt talking about nerfs, orochimaru didn't had his hands. Even he had his hydra form and reanimation. Tho jiraya or Naruto didn't wanted to kill but they weren't even able to captured them. Even in part 1 tsunade with an intent to kill wasn't able to do it.
@sippinsyrup9 ай бұрын
Never thought nick would bring up Berserk. I can rest easy now
@msharp68879 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is not a @they”, he his canonically a man
@professorpengu5028 ай бұрын
What is an "@they"
@msharp68878 ай бұрын
@@professorpengu502 typo. It was supposed to say “they”
@vb6523Ай бұрын
To be honest at this Point Orochimaru propably went through so many bodies that 'they' is the most fitting word. The Spirit is Male, the Body is whatever. Also Clones. Also snakes. Like Look at that eightheaded snake Hydra and Tell me the gender Has any relevancy there.
@msharp6887Ай бұрын
@@vb6523 ….i will grant you a maybe
@jaredevers64599 ай бұрын
Now imagine if Hiruzen had raised Naruto like he had promised Minato he would.
@JamesPain12039 ай бұрын
Who the f**k is they and them. Orochimura is 1 person. Its really throwing me off😂😂😂 He's a dude, just same he and him damn.
@nessatic9 ай бұрын
tell 'em
@THEShoky9 ай бұрын
Correct!
@briandiaz28148 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@chance21108 ай бұрын
It’s a joke because Orichimaru is a Famother
@Abandex3692 ай бұрын
@@chance2110joke at the expense of clarity
@mikelozano14499 ай бұрын
Personal head cannon says that jiriaya wasn’t prepared or “flexing” when hit by tsunade so he took more damage. Orochi was definitely on guard and bracing himself from tsunades attacks 🤷🏽♂️
@cngotham41119 ай бұрын
Bruh either way orchimaru osnway more durable then orchimaru. Head Canon orchimaru wpuld only due to narutos tail beast bomb was because he was weakened all ready and a healthy orchimaru would be fine
@thabomanamela4909 ай бұрын
you forgot to add hashirama and tobirama as orochimarus summonings, since hiruzen had to use reaper death seal to take them out while he was fighting a weaker orochimaru, i would argue that orochimaru would probably end up winning because of that added on to everything else you've mentioned
@susear59399 ай бұрын
That would be true if we took the Hiruzen fight Orochimaru. Timeline wise Nick used the Orochimaru from the time of when they tried taking over Sasuke to when Itachi sealed them. Gave them a healthy body. Nick mentions Manda 2 over and over cus Manda died from the injuries of Deidara's C0. That means the Hokage aren't available either. Fun fact: Orochimaru & Jiraya died/got sealed the same day. Sasuke vs Itachi and Jiraya vs Pain took place simultaneously.
@StickMasterKai9 ай бұрын
I agree, it’s wild to see him not mention Edo Tensei, one of Orochimaru jutsus that I believe no other person can use besides Tobirama. Not sure if Jiriyah has a counter against the 1st,2nd,3d,4th hokage. Nick mentions Jiriyah using sage mode with Ma and Pa, you might as well mention Orochimaru Edo Tensei that can “revive” the past hokages or any other person to counter him. I believe that feat is crazy op and unique
@MyBeardBro9 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that you think that Jiraiya doesn't know the snake of the hidden leaf has the edo and don't know how to stop it which he can. put him under genjutsu he's done or put him in a frog's belly and reverse summon it and burn the contract done and done.
@Viroh9 ай бұрын
@@StickMasterKaiKabuto
@Viroh9 ай бұрын
@@MyBeardBroyea and Orochimaru just stabs Jiraiya with kusanagi sword and it's done
@StrongzGamez8 ай бұрын
took me 12min to realize you were saying they/them referring to Orochimaru 😅🤣
@dionysisnance42049 ай бұрын
All orochimaru has to do is be in his girl form to give jiraiya a truly deadly noise bleed
@Gameplayernumber19 ай бұрын
Only real answer
@lucario2able9 ай бұрын
Heck even better, Orochimaru could just transform use Sexy Jutsu and use Tsunades image haha.
@kylelargin95289 ай бұрын
Possibly theory, could jiraiya be Edotensied using kashin kojis DNA. They are the same person genetically
@jakemoore50779 ай бұрын
I'd assume their souls are different, like if they were identical twins, I'd say.
@kylelargin95289 ай бұрын
@@jakemoore5077 but that's also under the assumption that kashin koji has a soul
@jaybrester38389 ай бұрын
Keep doing content like this!! Love the vid, glad you brought it back!
@johnnypollack32439 ай бұрын
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick love the video
@OFFICIALMAJMUSIC9 ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown, per usual! This was a great one.
@joelking85885 ай бұрын
No way youre referring to an anime character as a they… what has this world come to
@jonathancamargo34554 ай бұрын
This gotta be the most cornball response I've ever seen, have you even seen Orochimaru? Lost brain cells trying to understand how you're so easily triggered 🤡
@willred72653 ай бұрын
I mean, orochimaru has been reincarnated as women men and neither so ‘they’ kinda does fit
@brettwilliamson71299 ай бұрын
Idk when Tsunade hit orochimaru that was combat. When Tsunade hit Jaraiya. She hit him like a woman scorned, that's a different strength. Point being I don't think Tunades hit was trying to hit him to kill but to injure. I think she legit tried to kill jaraiya for peeping.
@ryanjames80009 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is WASHING jiraiya and it’s literally no competition. I do love me some jiraiya tho
@runeplay29 ай бұрын
Well, one of the arguments about Jiraya nearly dying to Tsunade, we never know if it's when he's older and more experienced, or younger and possibly even pre-Hanzo fight tho...
@Sweetlesishere9 ай бұрын
Bro is calling Orochimaru "they/them" 😂
@willsinko42369 ай бұрын
That’s cause they are
@BusterOlsen9 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is referred to as him by his peers though. It's Naruto fans that push the trans agenda that made him nonbinary. Not saying it's a big deal or anything, just giving clarity
@THEShoky9 ай бұрын
@@willsinko4236no, he isn't.
@dillonsparks1159 ай бұрын
I thinks it's because orochimaru has taken female body's not just male body's so to be fair
@willsinko42368 ай бұрын
By the time Boruto came around Orochimaru does not refer to themselves as any gender nor do the people around them. They also call themselves mitsuki's parent, not father. I beleive orochimaru is non-binary now.@@BusterOlsen
@THEShoky9 ай бұрын
I'm amazed by all the people in the comments misgendering Orochimaru. Nick says they/them is a they/them its true. Much like how he says Jiraya would win. (No, but seriously he's a he. Don't at me)
@jeriblaster4 ай бұрын
lol why does it keep calling oriochimaru them they ? cant watch the video like this
@Abandex3692 ай бұрын
Too confusing
@King_Cong279 ай бұрын
Nick really said “Griffith & Berserk” come on man
@Iceman-xq9pe9 ай бұрын
They literally fought in the anime and jiraiya lost trying to bring Orichimaru back to the village. This guy just loves Jiraiya at this point. Should’ve expected this since he said itachi would lose to him
@Vinnymanvinny16 ай бұрын
Funny that the data book has jiraiya as stronger than orochimaru
@goodlyrics24628 ай бұрын
I don’t think Orochimaru fought Sasori when he was weakened because he weaved hand signs to use the Edo Tensei.
@DrDox-jz2qi9 ай бұрын
Nick, Manda actually was about to eat Gamabunta and Tsunade saved him impaling Manda through the top of his mouth. Also, didn't finished the video yet but I suspect a little Jiraya bias 😂😂. Also, in 4 tails fight Oro rebirth was used 2 or 3 times
@genovayork24689 ай бұрын
Heavy Jiraiya bias.
@shaquilleochoshelby97616 ай бұрын
Does anybody think it's funny that we thought taking the arms away from A GUY WHO THINKS HE'S A SNAKE would be a real nerf
@genovayork24689 ай бұрын
Orochimaru beats Jiraiya handily. He didn't even talk about Edo Tensei. Sage Mode needs preparation time he won't have in battle of normal environment. Jiraiya's strongest jutsu is literally tanked by Orochimaru (assuming he'll have the mobility and chance to hit him with it). He can't be killed.
@MyBeardBro9 ай бұрын
Jiraiya doesn't need prep time he has mom and pops and Jiraiya didn't use his strongest attack against that slippery snake because one of he's strongest attack is with mom and pops or and he's summoning abilities.
@genovayork24689 ай бұрын
@@MyBeardBro He does, he needed to seclude himself in a tunnel for minutes. I never said anything of not using his strongest against Orochimaru.
@barbarrox9 ай бұрын
Itschi is stronger than obito and nagsto stated multiple times even by kishimoto himself in the authors note. So many errors in this videos who is this clown lmao
@UltimateMustacheX9 ай бұрын
If you don't have a friend in Guantanamo Bay... you might be that friend.
@MrGordo7309 ай бұрын
The fact that orochimaru has to be nerfed so much to make this fight close to fair tells us who is the better ninja
@lucario2able9 ай бұрын
I mean in large part that because while Jiraiya was ded Orochi got amped tf up lmfao.
@MrGordo7309 ай бұрын
@@lucario2able Honestly though, even if he stayed alive, he had no way of catching up to orochimaru anyway 🤷♂️
@lucario2able9 ай бұрын
@@MrGordo730 we don't know that lmfao. He didn't even have Perfect Sage mode yet when he died and hadn't put chakra releases into rasengan yet. He wasn't done he just spent his time on his... passions in life lop.
@totalyhonest65809 ай бұрын
Gotta like how Nick is switching from He to They with orochinaru every 2 minutes
@danielornelas61436 ай бұрын
I hate the they/them bullshit!
@ScorpionismZero4 ай бұрын
Cope
@black.sasuke.uchiha8 ай бұрын
Dang, editor really got everything he could out of that clip of Oro punching 4-tailed Naruto.
@laynchautin65169 ай бұрын
Why do you keep call him they bro it’s only one person
@TurboTimTravels9 ай бұрын
Think this is a pretty fair assessment.
@brycebranch96399 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is a he not a they. Don't know why u had to go and gender swap him.
@jades57729 ай бұрын
Because He is both male and female he has used a female body before But his birth gender was male
@brycebranch96399 ай бұрын
@jades5772 so at 1 point he was a she, and went back to he and stayed he but because years ago he was she now he's they? Ur making a political statement
@jades57729 ай бұрын
@@brycebranch9639 it seems like it because He dont lose the other capitylitys
@justenfraser9139 ай бұрын
He just tryna stay away from ppl getting mad for no reason
@reyband1419 ай бұрын
Ah yes the person who literally switches bodies with people can only be deemed a man
@andyd82849 ай бұрын
Hey idk if you knew that jiraya and orochimaru actually fought when orochimaru leave the village,it was offscreen but the outcome of that fight was that jiraya couldn’t bring him back,just like the 1st naruto vs sasuke fight it ended probably the same way,either jiraya won and orochimaru escaped or orochimaru won and had mercy on his former comrade like sasuke did with Naruto on their 1st encounter,this happens on jiraya’s tales on his fight against pain on his regrets in his life….
@pandamonium95299 ай бұрын
Accidentally says he and his a bunch 😂. Enough with the they/them crap.
@waddledeez50849 ай бұрын
5:55 wow based NCHammer out of nowhere lol
@MVLIKXCIII9 ай бұрын
lets play a game! take a shot every time he says Orochimaru
@davon1869 ай бұрын
Your research into the series is unrivaled. Really props to you. The only criticism I have is that you call orochimaru a they or them when it’s clearly stated throughout the entire series that he is a he. Even though he did take over the body of women here and there. He always remained a he and was referred to as he. Often it was stated “his next vessel”.
@THEShoky9 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was about to say the same thing.
@scootbacksome32459 ай бұрын
Cause Boruto
@creamyjeans729 ай бұрын
I'm so happy there's someone in the community who gives jiriyah his props he gets shit on way to much. Everyone else just glazes oro and says low dif without explaining. Someone finally agrees with me😎
@DeadTopher9 ай бұрын
It's based on Sansukumi-ken. In Mushi-ken, Chinese rock paper scissors, frog beats slug, slug beats snake, snake beats frog. He seems to have flipped it, snake beats slug, slug beats frog, frog beats snake. In the Japanese version, kitsune-kun or tohachiken, Kitsune (supernatural fox) beats village head, village head beats hunter, and hunter beats Kitsune.....Karama, Minato, and Obito.
@ajzekind9 ай бұрын
The Sannin that comes out on top is clearly Tsunade.
@mixedbylmg8 ай бұрын
And I thought Orochimaru had use of his arms at the beginning of shippuden? he had already body transferred because sasuke was late.
@Ka1zerM8 ай бұрын
Bro you have a talent of stretching a 5-10 minutes video all the way to half an hour
@rreed8 ай бұрын
Ever consider doing stat cards for each character when you're facing them off so we can get a overall viewSo we can see how you feel about all characters also compare to other characrers.
@rreed8 ай бұрын
Ahh just made it to the full end, I strike this idea from the suggestion box
@zachlindquist9999 ай бұрын
Are we just going to overlook the fact that Nick might know someone in Guantanamo bay?
@NoobSebot8 ай бұрын
Orochimaru is basically a super tank. He invested all his points in to defense
@Kobofromda5129 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video! Please do more versus battles in the future! Especially do one featuring Kabuto vs Obito
@mecahhannah9 ай бұрын
Awesome as always thanks ❤
@normalityfailure63809 ай бұрын
Your videos are always so interesting and entertaining, but if you could talk a tiny bit slower I would be able to follow what you're saying easier. You talk so fast that my brain struggles to keep up 😅
@johntleimat76529 ай бұрын
Love your videos, you really understand Kishimoto and the story line. I love all your content, your brilliant. I have an idea I thought about for your next video. Ranking dads in the Naruto verse. I'd like to start the ranking off with #1 MVD (most valuable dad) Shukaku and in 2nd probably Minato.