JLA/Avengers, Part 1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@jasonfrancese8359]

I’d like to point out that 5 seconds after Wally West arrived in the Marvel Earth, his first instinct is to protect the kid being chased. No idea why, but knows that he needs to help someone innocent.

[@zemox2534]

That is another reason why I love Wally. He is a true hero.

[@RhyperiorRanger]

“Darkseid has the infinity gauntlet” That is one the coolest things I’ve ever heard

[@TheDarkNeonHero]

I literally shouted to my screen "OH SH*T!!" but i guess he doesn't get his day with the glory of the answer to his anti-life equation....maybe someday.

[@DarknessIsTheTruth]

I'm pretty sure the answer is 42.

[@MarcellusMagnus]

That's a "pants to be darkened" moment if there ever was one.

[@movieman2293]

MarcellusMagnus That’s SEATS to be darkened

[@amytanner4931]

Just think of what could happen if he boom-tubed to the marvel universe!

[@MegaManDBZX]

So, what I'm getting from this is that most of Superman's dialogue in this is "Everything is better on MY Earth!".

[@MetalMadness_00]

MegaManDBZX imagine Supes seeing what did in Secret Empire

[@MetalMadness_00]

Zyle Rayner but then again The new 52 was now the Watchmen universe where superheroes are assholes feared by humans

[@jakejutras2733]

MegaManDBZX my god man.... Your name....

[@redjirachi1]

@ Mark Galan: There must have been some spillage between the two universes

[@MegaManDBZX]

What about my name?

[@JohnnyElRed]

"Yeah. Mr. Perez? We want you to draw a mural with every character. No, not every character from Marvel and DC. Every character in ficiton ever created. I know is... Hello? Mr. Perez?" *2 days later* "I-I don't know what happened. He was talking on the phone, and the next thing I know, he is yelling of euphoria, and then I found him dead on the floor with a smile on his face. Did you know happiness could provoque heart attacks?"

[@JTeenmining]

One of the funniest comments I've seen

[@kamenfann8880]

if you gotta go, go with a smile;)

[@RubberyCat]

....Do you have ANY IDEA how many "Every character in fiction ever created" is? Frankly, i doubt you have even _HEARD_ of "Zenith", for instance, and its multiversal grand storyline that included an immense amount of obscure superheroes from generally unknown titles, and this is just still superheroes we're talking about here, not secondary or background characters.

[@vcom741]

There is also everyone in LotR...everyone in GoT...every single Pokemon, Digimon, Monster Rancher Monster, every One Piece character, Every Naruto character, every Doctor Who character...you get the idea.

[@MrSafior]

Don't forget the création outside the US and Japan.

[@samuelmeyer1024]

"You think this 'S' on My chest stands for France!?"- Superman

[@darthgriffin7741]

Samuel Meyer ultimate Captain America is a douche.

[@daelen.cclark]

Why did people like “the ultimates” again?

[@ajnapalm]

I thought the S was for the Sentinel that's demolishing Cerebro. So don't let him in the Danger Room.

[@daelen.cclark]

Darth Griffin As well as civil war cap.

[@christiancrusader9374]

@@ajnapalm it'sjustsomerandomguy fan, huh?

[@crimsonking440]

I love the idea of cap and Superman both shouting "we should DO something!" at their teams and both sides just being like what is even happening.

[@neoforrester4401]

But should they DO something?

[@matthewmckee3762]

They should DO something!

[@ZoanBlade90]

@@matthewmckee3762 *Should* they do something?

[@neoforrester4401]

@@ZoanBlade90 Bang!

[@wikiuser92]

They should DO something!

[@wingedhussar8552]

It’s hilarious how Cap decides that the DCU must be a dystopian hellhole just because the citizens are actually grateful towards the heroes. Says something about the citizens in Marvel I guess. Also, Supes has no room to talk down to the Avengers about trying hard enough to protect people considering how often cities, countries, and even the timeline itself gets destroyed in DC.

[@hitomisalazar4073]

I always figured it was because of figures like Doctor Doom. Who's people love him and build statues to him and such like that. And is an out and out villain really to everyone not Latverian. Not a lot of Marvel Heroes getting like "The Fantastic Four Museum" opened in their honor. Unlike in the MCU where they had things like a Captain America Museum scene and such. While Superman's point make sense when you think of things like "What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" where his entire point is that with their abilities and cleverness and determination DC heroes don't have to result to brutal retribution and "Avenging". That they can save the day with minimal harm. Or as Justice League Unlimited showed off in Patriot Act (Great Episode), the DC Heroes put saving civilians over fighting General Eiling over and over. Because that's what heroes do there. Which... isn't necessarily the case in Marvel.

[@AnEndlessStrategy]

Superman: Those problems are over there! And we need to do something! Batman: Should we do something?

[@mitchfletcher2386]

Wonder Woman: We should DO something!!

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

I’m Ray Palmer! Welcome to doing something!

[@stevenstice6683]

Oh boy, our Great Disaster stopping friend Ray Palmer.

[@TheMamaluigi300]

Who does the somethings?

[@matthewmckee3762]

The question is, who watches the people doing something?

[@CapnJigglypuff]

Superman: "Everything is better on MY Earth!"

[@Awesome_Pichu]

Superman: "I'm gonna kill you to death!"

[@leotamer5]

To be fair, the Marvel Universe is pretty messed up.

[@nemesis3587]

He already sensed Captain Hydra.

[@dandydoodle4456]

leotamer5 remember that time the blob ate the wasp? Tastes like chicken

[@lavagolem4832]

what a wasted oportunity of linkara

[@griffindor65]

Me going thru this vid: "Huh, this seems like a pretty cool comic, I might have to pick this up at some point-" "We cut to Apokolips, where Darkseid has the Infinity Gauntlet." "I NEED THIS COMIC IN MY HANDS YESTERDAY."

[@dprototype6431]

"I don't need it. I don't need it. I definitely don't need it."

[@FixTheWi-Fi]

D Prototype IIII NEEEEED IIIIIIT!

[@TheBestComicKing]

Egh, my response was “SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!”

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

It's of course cool that he might use it. Him throwing it to the dirt like literal garage is five thousand times better. He can't even be bothered to attempt to unlock it, and if it's not actively serving his purposes, it's less than nothing and any stranger who wants to pick it up is more than welcome

[@redrasegarden]

*possess a copy* My precious 🤤

[@brucesnow7125]

I love that moment between Cap and Bats. Both are brilliant strategists and as always do something smart instead of punching each other.

[@perce1veALL]

Yep, it's actually fitting that they were the first ones to figure out the behind the scene scheme.

[@martianmanfrommars8428]

Captain America: "People actually LIKE them in this universe? That obviously means their fascists bent on controlling the populous!" Superman: "THINGS ARE SAD ON YOUR EARTH SO THAT MAKES YOU BAD HEROES!" (AKA literally what happened in Infinite Crisis)

[@perce1veALL]

I mean, Captain America's viewpoints kind of makes sense considering that fascists were looked upon in their country, prayed to like gods. And if i'm going to be honest, heroes being idolized does kind bend a question if you've read the Boys comics.

[@tylerleach1833]

@@perce1veALL dude, nobody should read The Boys.

[@luckystriker842]

@@tylerleach1833 TV series is great, though.

[@adrianrocha6844]

@@perce1veALL another thing if Superman thinks the marvel heroes are bad because of some of the destruction that they don’t stop he has no right to talk shit since one of his team members lives in a city where crime is so bad it’s gone to the point of get all the innocent people out leave everyone else there and nuke the city this is why I like marvel more than dc

[@bladewolflq-84i86]

@@adrianrocha6844 That only means Batman is a shit hero doing a shit job, even his prodigial son Nightwing made little progress in Bludhaven before being blow up. All other DC cities like Metropolis, Central City are mostly decent place to live.

[@criticalwolf1]

16:38 news report: "wonder woman visited sick children and is helping the world health organization" Captain America: "that bitch"

[@myriadmediamusings]

Calling all viewers! As of 2/16/2022, its been announced that in March, JLA/Avengers will be back for a limited stock, and all proceeds will go to the family of George Perez!

[@neoforrester4401]

And that pisses me off somewhere fierce 'cause I'm completely aware that I'm never gonna be able to nab a copy for myself.

[@redrasegarden]

I'm all for giving to a good artist family...but I already have a copy

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

I guess Uatu watches the Watchmen (and probably monitors the Monitors.)

[@RubberyCat]

* literal lol * * Laughs out loud *

[@DeisFortuna]

B U T W H O M A K E S S U R E H E D O E S H I S J O B ?

[@jagarcia0705]

*Monitor #1:* We should do something. *Monitor #2:* Should we do something? *Monitor #3:* Maybe we should do something.

[@amytanner4931]

@@jagarcia0705 FUCKING DO SOMETHING ALREADY! GOD!

[@daelen.cclark]

Who darksides the darksied?

[@SiRenfield]

Also unintentionally hilarious in hindsight considering how a lot of Marvel fanboys perceive DC as “edgy on purpose” while DC fanboys perceive Marvel as “silly and childish”, but in this book their positions on the optimism to cynicism scale are the opposite. Possibly showing the difference in creative directions over the course of a decade?

[@cherry-cj9iq]

I always thought the pissing match between DC and Marvel was… y'know, fandom stuff, instead of actual editorial stuff. That surprises me a lot, actually; these guys really know they could just… get more money if they were amiable and worked together from time to time, right? The comic industry does weird things sometimes. Still, this is a REALLY fun crossover from what I heard so far! I enjoyed the interactions between the heroes, you can see why the characters were distrustful and weirded out at first… and NGL, when I think of heroes talking things out I would not have pointed to Cap. and Batman and gone "yeah, those two, they are the ones who are gonna sort it out together". Like, really. …Very unexpected. Another commented called it, but Superman did sound a lot like Superboy "EVERYTHING WAS BETTER ON M Y EARTH!" Prime, though this actually makes sense and is far less annoying. He should take notes on how to not be insufferable. …My favorite moment is Batman and Captain America bonding over their lost partners though. I started enjoying the DCU before getting into comics as a Robin fan, I started the comics as a Robin fan, and it stands the same to this day goddamnit >:"(

[@WaitWhat-zw2in]

A few years ago Marvel literally told comic book stores that they could send them photos of them ripping up DC's newest event comics in exchange for getting new variant covers. These two aren't rivals like they once were, they are now bitter enemies

[@Batman-p7f]

​@@WaitWhat-zw2inNot anymore.

[@daelen.cclark]

I always thought that was Disney/Warner legal disagreements. Y’know, corporate greed & all that.

[@daelen.cclark]

George Perez’s version of heaven: drawing every character that ever existed, and will ever exist! (With infinite pay.)

[@redrasegarden]

Hope he’s enjoying paradise

[@daelen.cclark]

@@redrasegarden I’m hope he is. May he Rest In Peace.

[@redrasegarden]

@@daelen.cclark 🥲

[@SMAXZO]

....You want to know what's funny? JLA/Avengers is canon because the story of Krona was then followed up in Trinity..and they sorta sneaked in a silhouette of Cap in (which they can get away with since it also sorta looked like the Flash from the back)

[@Grim_Sister]

"Where Darkseid has the infinity goblet." Pants be darkened... "It is not affective." Well, dodged that bullet

[@TF2Fan101]

Darkseid used Infinity Gauntlet! It's not very effective...

[@redrasegarden]

More like”pants to be Ebbind”

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

The modern irony of the Marvel U being written as the "grimdark, gritty" universe is delicious.

[@ZatchZXman]

It kinda is. MCU just has glitter

[@daelen.cclark]

@@ZatchZXman Debatable, but I definitely get why you think so.

[@dylansharp8471]

@@daelen.cclark Come again?

[@daelen.cclark]

@@dylansharp8471 That the MCU is grim with glitter. I don’t fully get it but I still get it.

[@dakotadoyle7573]

You just know that Darksied would have used the Infinity Gauntlet to make the comfiest lazyboy in existence

[@fernando2236]

And probably use it to help him solve his little math equation

[@Bobsheaux]

Wait, why is Captain America surprised to see civilians admiring them? I know that Marvel is more about heroes you can relate to while DC is supposed to be about heroes you LOOK UP to, but isn't Cap the exception, where everyone looks up to him as the heroic ideal? 19:32 - I'm honestly surprised that Batman didn't manage to kick Vision DESPITE his phasing. "Wait, what? You should've passed right through me. How did you kick me?" *_"BECAUSE I'M BATMAN!!!!!"_* Ugh... That stare-down between Cap and Batman is ALL that should've happened between Bats and Supes in BvS. "You have the power to take over the world just by LOOKING at it the wrong way. And yet you haven't done anything of the sort when you've had YEARS to do so." "And you're using methods of fighting criminals that are questionable at best... but you have a working relationship with the Gotham PD." "...Let's talk." "Meanwhile, Batman and Captain America ride their Scooty-Puff Jr..." I'm dead. lmao

[@dylansharp8471]

Is the look up to thing more of Linkara's interpretation? Also, maybe it was that stuff about Cap that was revealed earlier.

[@louisseymour9247]

My favourite inter company crossover of all. The interactions between the DC and Marvel Universe, the sheer number of cameos, the characterisation, the epic cosmic threat, it's a damn good story in of itself.

[@matthewgagnon9426]

Captain America just going off the deep end about how people treat the DC heroes well is hysterical. It's just 0 to 100 with him, he sees Wonder Woman in a childrens hospital and immediately assumes they're all fascist dictators.

[@Frank-Voight-Kampff]

Hawkeye's Squadron Supreme jokes never fails to make me chuckle. The 10-year-old in me is just super excited that this comic exsists.

[@Talowolf]

There was only one DC vs Marvel battle I cared about in this mini. Wonder Women's big perm hair vs Scarlet Witch's big perm hair.

[@AussieDragoon]

The battle of "George Perez's weird obsession with giant curly hair on those 2 in particular, despite no other artists drawing it that way"...we may need a more concise title

[@DarsiPadilla]

If only he illustrated a promo art for Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Phantom of the Opera", he'd definitely make Christine Daae's hair even more fabulous than before.

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

@@AussieDragoon How does "Perm Battle" sound?

[@partickstwart5978]

You know, I get Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver finding the idea of DC's heroes being so venerated a little weird, what with all the mutant hate they got back home, but I don't think it quite works with the rest of the Avengers. It's like they couldn't think of something wrong with the DC Universe like they could with the Marvel Universe. Even then, I feel like they could have put a little more effort into why the Avengers would have similar salt levels to the Justice League. Could have them discover someone like Amanda Waller or Mr. Bones and say that their government is more corrupt. Could point out half the stupid decisions the Guardians of the Universe make and have them get mad at their pretentiousness. Could show Cap a picture of when Superman had a mullet.

[@BoulderPunchPodcast1]

Patrick Stewart yeah I get what they were going for, but pretty much all the Marvel heroes in that scene with the exception of those two should already be used to this kind of praise. Like you said the others should have discovered just how corrupt the DC government really is with people like Bones and Waller

[@trishahernz7809]

Well to be fair, the muggles in Marvel are dicks. They're not above going to the Avengers mansion and destroy property because a senator said they suck (in the Kree-Skrull war). And this was before the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Magneto's kids in canon. They're just shocked DC was a lot more friendly.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

As corrupt as DC Earth is, it's not like Marvel is any better on that front. I think they were extremely over the top about it, but I get why the Avengers would be so unnerved seeing the level of hero worship on DC's Earth. It's such a culture shock, and they're so used to supervillains and evil alternate everythings that of course their first reaction would be "wait, did these guys take over the world?" It's just stupid as hell that they would keep that mindset for more than a few minutes, since they should have pretty quickly realized that the civilians weren't acting like Latvarian citizens meeting Dr. Doom.

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

It's not really the Avengers though, Quicksilver and Hawkeye are immediately a little envious, Quicksilver maybe more so due to the major prominence of the Flash in his universe compared to him as a lesser hero, but only Superman and Captain America are depicted as extremely salty, and unjustifiably so. Thor's pissed, but as he points out, they're strangers who invade their realm to steal cosmic artifacts and are talking mess, only Cap is freaking out about them being fascist while everyone is like "Uh, okay Steve, why don't you just cool off a bit"

[@hitomisalazar4073]

Well it makes sense as a conflict to me. Like (well outside the MCU where they actually do this), I can't think of a case where they have a museum venerating super heroes in Marvel. Probably is that I'm not aware of off the top of my head, I'm sure. But it's not a big thing. Like there isn't a "Captain America Day" in Marvel so much. But there is "We have turned the day of Superman's Death into a global holiday of mourning" and "We literally built a massive museum dedicated to The Flash" and such. In Marvel's earth their big well known news outfit of The Daily Bugle rages about vigilantes being the scum of the earth from Spider-man to Daredevil. In DC the Daily Planet talks about how Superman is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's a very different sort of public view. Nevermind that a lot of Marvel's big villains as well are megalomaniac asshats who seem to think "Because I have Superpowers I'm better and should rule over the Earth". Heck the sort of veneration DC heroes get on the regular does happen in Marvel... with villains. Like Dr. Doom in Latveria. Or Namor in Atlantis. It'd probably make a lot of sense to see massive statues to a cape, the object hero worship, etc, and draw that Dr. Doom parallel over thinking: "They must be a swell guy" in their home world context.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

Its kinda fitting that the JLA/AVENGERS (the last Marvel/DC crossover) would somehow fit the main plots and elements of Contest of Champions, Secret Wars Original, Crisis on Earth 2 and Crisis on Ininite Earths to make one cohesive plot

[@MrThorfan64]

True. It feels like a tribute to the annual Crisis stories you got in JLA comics 60s-80s. Even has the Spectre pushing Earths apart, which happened in I think the 4th crossover between JLA and JSA.

[@BrendanJSmith]

There's even some Infinity Gauntlet in there too!

[@amiablereaper]

I think it's really funny that grandmaster is like "quick! Everyone! Go grab me every single implement of ultimate power from 2 universes!" And nobody questions it.

[@MatthewJones-jg4eu]

Evil well always win because good is dumb

[@redrasegarden]

U wanna question a cosmic being?

[@daelen.cclark]

11:59 reluctance for them to go along with doing something because someone told them to.

[@michaelconnell1010]

Galactus: You are tearing me apart, Krona!!

[@GoodNeutralEvilChaos]

Silver Suffer: Great story. Anyway, how's your sex life?

[@kadindarklord]

Darkseid with the Infinity Gauntlet. ... That's bad. That's very bad.

[@daelen.cclark]

kadindarklord Bad, but incredibly awesome!

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

And once he can't immediately use it to his own ends, he just tosses it like it's a banana peel. He can't even just keep it as a glove, right on the ground

[@redrasegarden]

We dead.

[@AaronRotenberg]

23:36... I like how it's just generally accepted in the Marvel universe that a "time bike" is a thing, despite it (according to the Marvel Fandom wiki) having never been seen before or since.

[@RyutheWeredragon]

"Since then, DC and Marvel have had no other crossovers" Not... ENTIRELY true. There was one more - Superman/Fantastic Four - this event is directly referenced in it.

[@daelen.cclark]

Might’ve just been made around the same time.

[@Longshanks1690]

So the intro is basically saying; "War (between comic book companies). War never changes."

[@Longshanks1690]

jbiehlable *4

[@jordanthejq12]

* New Vegas

[@neoforrester4401]

Superman: Your Earth is corrupted and stained with your dark, cynical toughts. Superman: (Ignores the glare from Earth-2 Superman) Seriously, no one has ever felt that this was some kind of prelude for Infinite Crisis?

[@sineado.mcdevitt4353]

Hawkeye and Green Arrow creating the universe is the kind of over the top bullshit I love

[@CyborgWolf]

Ok but a crossover Captain America/ G.I Joe against Kobra would be amazing

[@Nerom99]

13:37 I'll never get tired of the Superman ''Over there'' jokes.

[@DreFromMaine8472]

This is one of my most favorite comic miniseries of all time. Great story and great artwork!

[@deadpoolmlp5810]

Rewatching this in the wake of Perez's Cancer diagnosis. We're losing a legend soon.

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

The man will be gone but his legacy will never die.

[@meowistforlife]

@@gentlemanlygeeky4088 sad

[@V4Now]

I have each issue signed by George Perez. He's such a nice man. 😁

[@V4Now]

Ian R. Nava Huber so you should! Mwahahahaaaa!

[@TomboTime]

i think this series is really clever! i like how there are nods to each universe scattered all over. i like the amazingly composed fight panels. i love how some of the pages for each universe mirror each other, like how in one section scarlet witch and Zatanna meditating are mirroring each other.

[@andyabdullah3324]

This is by far one of the greatest crossover ever by DC and Marvel. The story is great and straightforward. The art. Man the art is fantastic and classic. The detail. George Perez is beast. He illustrated the Crisis of Infinite Earths with such amazing detail, and this one too. Damn. Shame we won't get anything like this anytime in the future.

[@troin3925]

If a movie version ever existed, then it would technically be a crossover between Disney and Warner Bros.

[@unownperson]

I won one of the Hero Initiative reprints from a raffle my local comic book shop had, I am so glad this is a Patreon Review gave me a shock to see an ATFW episode on it. Definitely will watch once I'm done reading.

[@thewoollyviking5928]

Could you guys imagine if Quicksilver had been successful in connecting to the speed force? That would have been INSANE!

[@BigAmericanGirlFan]

I think it would have been awesome to have the respective speedsters (Quicksilver and the Flash) visit each other and extend their respective families. Like Tommy becoming friends with Bart Allen.

[@morganyoung3557]

As a fan of both Marvel and DC, this kind of crossover is something that I would enjoy. It also helps that the story actually sounds pretty good, it also proves my theory that Batman would get along with Captain America more than Iron Man true. Also is just me or is Superman a jerk in this story and I usually like Superman.

[@CButtonshaw]

he's channeling Superboy-Prime. Must be a Kryptonian thing hating universes they're not from.

[@Wright805]

+Morgan Young Watch Part 2. It's explained there why Superman is acting that way.

[@morganyoung3557]

Wright805 I am glad that they were able to explain why Superman was acting like a jerk here since I was very confused by him acting like this.

[@SirAsdf]

Am I the only one disappointed we didn't get any tie-in one-shots for this series? I personally would've loved to see some adventures on the merged Earth.

[@MrBGS101]

God do I want there to be an animated movie of this.

[@redrasegarden]

Me too!

[@taterslam0573]

A movie would be cool but screw that I want a damn video game (fighting game mostly) to be made!

[@wellthatwaswierd4570]

So Krona's scientific method is the equivalent of trying to find out how a clock works by bashing it with a sledgehammer. Good to know.

[@Mask0fFate]

I feel like this is an event comic. Large cast of characters, grand stakes, and eventual consequences of the event. Heck, it’s even a two-parter, like the Crisis on Infinite Earths review or the Secret Wars review.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

Samuel Johnson It is

[@phantomdriver2010]

I've never seen someone hate something as much as Superman hates the Marvel universe He took the planet being slightly smaller as some kind of personal attack

[@DarnHooligans]

The subtle foreshadowing for the end of the Contest of Champions buried in this episode

[@batfreeze56]

This is definitely my favorite crossover in history. What a perfect story, and at the same time commentary on the ever changing nature of comic books.

[@lightyearpig12]

Thank the various gods of Marvel and DC that the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't work in any other universe! Just imagine how much untold destruction Darkseid could cause with it.

[@redrasegarden]

He’d probably give up the hunt for the anti life equation thinking this is more effective

[@LaNoLaCola]

I wish I lived through a time when DC and Marvel allowed for cross company crossover

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

the saddest part is that Marvel is anti company crossover (Disney owns both Star Wars and Marvel yet 0 crossover). while Dc is doing crossovers with everyone (Planet of the Apes, Star Trek, MMPR, TMNT, Looney Tunes, Archie, and Surpsignlt not Steven Universe, even though Warner owns both DC and Cartoon Network. I am sure Steven Universe and Superboy/Jonathan Kent would become BBF fast. And there owuld be an AMAZING CONTRAST if the Crystal Gems met either Superman, or Any green lantern, and especially, Martian Manhunter, and Batman)

[@calebmayfield3326]

+Ian R. Nava Huber When did Archie crossover with Dc? Also For some reason I think Dc should buy Ben 10 and make it part of thei universe

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

Harly and Ivy meet Betty And Veronica. Google it. They already have the original one Dial H for HERO and boy everyone knows they don't even ackonwedge his existance despite having good comics (H-E-R-O, and Dial H, without mentioning the original run) (also If Ben 10 is already owned by Warner Bros then technically they could do a crossover with Ben 10 whenever they wanted)

[@JohnNewton27]

I lived through it. It was a good time.

[@MrSafior]

+Ian R. Nava Huber It may change. The only compagny crossover who happe in the 2010's was Attack on Titan vs Marvel and Iron man meet space brother, (the first one is notorious crap and the second is pretty dificult to find.) and this two crossover happen thank to Cebulski who know rules marvel. So prepar to see more Marvel intercompagny crossover in the near futur.

[@joeberryman3563]

I never get tired reading this book. I always come back to it.

[@MrXemnas1992]

Not gonna lie, seeing Darkseid with the Infinity Gauntlet made me gasp aloud. Yeah, it was ultimately a cop-out tease, but DAMN that is a scary concept.

[@Astrithor]

Scooty Puff Jr. jokes?! Linkara, this is why I love you.

[@mattwo7]

You know, come to think of it, in spite of DC not crossing over with Marvel since, IDW has done crossovers with both DC and Marvel, would be funny if they were the ones to somehow bring the two together in some sort of three way crossover. Crossovers between independent properties (as in stuff not part of or spun off of the same main brand like pretty much everything Marvel and DC currently do) do seem to be their thing more than any other American comic publisher right now after all (and yet, there has still yet to be a proper My Little Pony crossover with anything, random references and covers of course notwithstanding) .

[@Anthintendo]

13:01 Hulk’s just having lunch, Superman! Everyone gets cranky when they’re hungry. After he’s had his hot dogs, he’ll calm right down.

[@neoforrester4401]

And if you want to blame someone, blame Ross who keeps pursuing him.

[@tomatoisjp]

the cosmic cube can DO ANYTHING

[@superemoboi2050]

I don't think Superman world get angry if he went to the Marvel universe. I think he'd get really depressed. Superman: "Man, _everyone_ is having a shitty time here!"

[@skibobshipoddlypop]

He would really help turn it around though, although something tells me Doctor Doom would kill him pretty fast. While Lex has crazy intellect and an unrivaled ego, Doctor Doom wouldn't ever compare himself to Superman and need to top him, he's outraged to not be more powerful than whatever the most powerful thing he knows about it at any given time. He'd somehow suck Superman's life from him without ever thinking it an achievement

[@Spatu10]

Red Tornado and Vision fighting, however brief, is still super cool

[@Elyseon]

if Supes had been to Genosha, the "WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING" scene from Kingdom Come would have looked tame in comparison.

[@neoforrester4401]

I dunno, I would love to see the aneurysm suffered by Superman if he ever got a glimpse of the Marvel Universe circa Civil War, then moving to World War Hulk, Dark Reign and finishing it all with Secret Empire...

[@baileylarsen9439]

God I love crossovers

[@bowenorcutt78]

Let me try something: A while back, I started going on about how nice it'd be to get a film adaptation of Red Son. And wouldn't you know it, WB just happened to announce one was in the works a couple months later. Probably a coincidence, but in the spirit of Honest Trailers somehow accurately calling the deaths of TWO major Game of Thrones characters in a row, let me try it again: I'd really, REALLY like an animated movie made based on this comic. Preferably with the EMH and JL cartoons's casts.

[@dylansharp8471]

Well with Kevin Conroy sadly passing away, who's voice Batman?

[@bowenorcutt78]

@@dylansharp8471 No idea. I guess they'd sadly have to recast him. Probably use whoever they're using for Batman in animation anyway.

[@androzani84productions85]

It would more likely use the Avengers Assemble cast

[@captainsteroid2454]

The artwork is amazing, with great writing, copious amounts of fan service with a dash of Super-Dickery towards the Marvel Universe. I have GOT to score myself a copy of this! :D

[@thatnerdyguy8701]

Is it wrong that I like both???

[@vwin9112]

JL member no, it isn't, If I can hang out with both wonder woman and captain marvel(carol danvers) or zatanna and scarlet witch, then no, its no bad to love both. We all need a break from the comic fights these days.

[@thatnerdyguy8701]

Van Win ikr, for me those stories are overrated.

[@MrDp115]

If it's wrong then I don't want to be right

[@xgray2012]

JL member No, no it isn't.

[@dragonempress8367]

No

[@jameshowlett5106]

Ya know, I just thought listening to Linkara here... Leonard Nimoy would've been a great Metron. Just something about his voice coming from the guy who goes around the universe on a chair to collect knowledge sounds like a Leonard Nimoy role.

[@BrendanJSmith]

God rest his soul.

[@superstarultra28]

"I am Thor, god of vocabulary words!" LOL

[@Cheesesteaks4Life98]

Superman don't you know? Marvel's Earth's problems are "over there" and "over there" will have to stand for itself.

[@TheSol101]

I NEED THIS COMIC NOW!!! Googles price on internet $400-$700 for collection Googles how much kidneys sell for.

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

I found this miniseries at a con for $30.

[@androzani84productions85]

There’s an omnibus later this year.

[@jackregz]

God I love this miniseries so much

[@lorddrayvon1426]

It's a shame Perez is retired. He could really help give scale to some great crossovers. I'm not knocking the work of God knows how many other artists, I'm just saying Perez was one of the best in capturing the grand scale of things.

[@fabriciosanchez6113]

I tought George Pérez died

[@KensanOni]

A Lobo-Rocket Raccoon crossover could rock. Just saying.

[@matthewmckee3762]

THE COSMIC CUBE CAN DO ANYTHING . . . except work for Batman, apparently.

[@redrasegarden]

wait was he even trying to use it. really think about that

[@jordannino1836]

I don’t know why but I love this crossover

[@vwin9112]

Jordan Nino well, it does have the same to draw the best style of the heroes and best matchups.

[@indy6s]

15:05 check it out, metrons symbol on his chest is the drawing of the miracle machine from final crisis! Neat

[@noir-214]

26:05 When I first saw that panel, I got chills. I thinking OMG is scary as all hell, the big bad of dc having the most powerful weapon in Marvel

[@chs9999]

All I can say to the image of dark side of The Infinity gauntlet is closets to be darkened

[@HBarnill]

Today is the 10th anniversary of Heath Ledger’s (the Joker) passing.

[@santarosa393]

F. N. Lorter God I miss him😣

[@jameswhite3799]

Personally I prefer his role in 10 Things I Hate About You. But yes, tis a sad day.

[@joshuabell7761]

RIP

[@MrXemnas1992]

Damn. Still a heavy loss. In a way, the Joker killed him... :(

[@lightyearpig12]

He was so serious yet so endearing at the same time.

[@tokubrony9447]

This is my favorite comic book of all time! 😁

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

Mine too.

[@redrasegarden]

Me too!

[@samuelbarber4154]

In the Amalgam Universe, there was, I think, a big missed opportunity, why didn't Iron Man amalgamate with Batman? Case and point, Iron-Bat. A massive indestructible Iron Man Bat suit.

[@knicknac95]

22:21 - an intersting tidbit here is the comments that wanda makes about the chaos magic corrupting here - might THIS have been the cause of Wandas eventual insanity that lead to the house of M and No more mutants?

[@Popcultureguy3000]

This has been my headcanon since I read this in tpb ten years ago!

[@L1701]

Brian Bendis is not that clever.

[@MrThorfan64]

@Michael Beld Yeh, it kind of makes sense.

[@darrenhood4033]

I've long maintained that this story was the swan song for good comics in the modern era. 1998-2004 was a great time to be a fan of the big two. Both companies had begun to phase out the excess and poor decisions influenced by the speculator boom. Heroes Return, JLA, JMS Spider-Man, LEX - 2000, Johns on Flash, Waid on FF, Jimenez and Rucka on Wonder Woman, Jim Lee Batman, Cassandra as Batgirl, also after 2000 there wasn't a reluctance on companywide crossovers! There was a lot to love about this era, and this mega crossover is fun, it has the classic superhero storytelling that frankly is missing once we get to Identity Crisis in DC and Disassembled at MArvel. Stories became too dark and gritty and especially at DC as you've covered relying on nostalgia that wasn't needed (ressurection of Wally and Hal, and a insistence to punish their heroes, like Roy Harper losing his child and going insane, and we got pointless event and crossover comics. Sure there were some good stories to come from Marvel and DC but as a whole, nothing comes to as epic, fun and exciting as anything that was written and drawn for JLA/Avengers.

[@sarafontanini7051]

it probably comes up in part 2, but I'm sure I remember it being mentioned somewhere in a book I read once about this storyline having an AWESOME description of Galactus' throne with it being made from dead Galactus' or something. Very Lovecraftian, almost, very chilling, very cool. if accurate, this detail alone makes the entire crossover worth it to me.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

If Joker hated Red Skull, i wish we had another crossover with Hydra Cap wanting to kill Joker and Batman and Captain america teaming up

[@Dreadjaws]

Oh, man, I miss the drunk Iron Man voice.

[@Merit2397]

Another favorite episode of mine. Yeah, for some reason, probably just my love for superheroes in general, I just love these reviews for both Mavel and DC stories. Love the brawls and what brings these two universes together. That it's all just a game that two cosmic elders are engaged in. It's truly an epic battle and I think my favorite part of ALL of this it how Captain America and Batman overcome their differences and work together to find out what's going on. It's just so damn fun!!!

[@Jellycakelap]

The mall at the beginning of this issue, is where I worked in Florida! I got to see George working on this as he was drawing it. Pretty damned kickass.

[@jessaminehaak8253]

Why on earth was this miniseries focussed on the main story instead of LOBO vs THE SHIAR EMPIRE. Where is our 4-double-sized-issue story about THAT?

[@dannybuckle3763]

"Then all of this has been a waste of time...Mary, I need to borrow your coach again!"

[@1216Rockman]

You know what would be awesome Maybe after Phase 5 or Phase 6 we get an entire 3 Phases dedicated to a Marvel/DC Crossover probably won't happen but it would be cool

[@oscarmccormack1611]

I'm very confident that will never happen. And either way, even if there's a crossover like that, there's no way it lasts a full phase.

[@TheEman11910]

Only way that will ever happen is if Disney is allowed to buy DC, which it won’t

[@CactusJackIV]

I am so glad that you got to talk about the "crossover universe" Keep up the great work!!!

[@seb24789]

That reminds me. Wasn´t there something like "JLA vs. Masters of the Universe" around 2013?

[@killerbee2562]

john benko jr Did they refference the 80s, Superman he-man cross over?

[@BaronSengir1008]

And He-Man is powered by magic, which Supes is vulnerable to...

[@Wright805]

+killerbee256 No, the DC Universe vs. Masters of the Universe crossover did not reference the 80's crossover. The story was reprinted in the trade paperback though. Also while the idea is great, I personally thought the comic sucked.

[@MrSafior]

@@Wright805 And now they battle the Injustice universe!

[@fmoland]

"Superman...really hates the Marvel Universe"

[@PosthumanHeresy]

Wait... Superman spends the entire comic griping about how everything is better on his Earth?

[@neoforrester4401]

Let's just be glad he didn't kill anyone to death...

[@MaveriKat]

13:10 AH! Glad to see you got it in the mail then. Hope to see it reviewed one day. If I could ever get the darn Patreon Sponsor for a Review, I sure as heck would for that.