Hollywood's dumbest box office bomb | So Bad It's Good

[@JasonBrant]

I completely forgot to thank Megatron, JC Foster, and Steve Amedeo for sending us this epic pile.

[@MrDman21]

X vs 7er

[@JasonBrant]

Those ciders were so strong they made us enjoy Ecks vs Sever.

[@jtmotley8848]

@@JasonBrant $70 million dollar budget for that pile of 💩…but by God, those explosions were spectacular!

[@jimjones_koolaid]

@@JasonBrant 🤣 these are some of the best episodes when you guys are just totally confused as to what the F is happening and why

[@cory6266]

This movie is not based on _anything,_ but it acts like it is, like it's part of a larger series and we should already know these characters because we're supposed to _care_ that they're fighting.

[@robotrix]

​@@jtmotley8848The director say $35 mil.

[@robotrix]

Do you pronounce "versus" as "verse"? Or was that the Prickly Pear talking?

[@curtisgeist6122]

I need to let you guys know that this has been my comfort channel for the last few weeks. My dad passed two weeks ago, and while we weren’t super close I’ve had some time off work and have been binging your vids. It’s like hanging out with friends, as corny as that sounds. Thanks guys. And yes, this movie is unusually terrible 😂

[@JasonBrant]

So sorry to hear about your dad, Curtis. Glad our stupidity could give you a few laughs.

[@s3.14dervision]

❤❤❤❤I lost my dad awhile ago (15 years) but it still hurts. God bless

[@jimjones_koolaid]

@@curtisgeist6122 I actually just last week sat with my dad and made him watch the Terror Squad episode cuz He’s a fan of The Rifleman (Chuck Connors). He was cracking up, esp the bit at the end with the short bus 🤣

[@TheOrlandoTrustfull]

Yeah it stinks losing a parent, whether they were "close" or not. Don't allow it to send you into a spiral though mate. There are good times in the future.

[@marshaljedcooper7402]

Just remember, your dad is the lucky one because he isn’t subjected to these shitty movies

[@jamesgreenwood5185]

Throwing away an aimed shotgun, at point blank range, in order to withdraw a handgun, is probably one of the stupidest #$%& things I have ever seen. Jesus!

[@SK-ny5ei]

I just went and rewatched that scene thinking he might have been out of ammo and realized it at the last second, but he only shoots the shotgun twice. It would have been so easy just have him be empty and have her point it out to him, which is almost a trope by now. Even worse, when she backs away in the car, sees the cops, then goes forward, she drives a long, long way, and he just stands there and lets her run him over. Then he shoots the car with the shotgun, and she hits that van. But she doesn't swerve because of the shotgun hit or anything, she was already driving straight at the van. She was going to hit it and flip even if he wasn't there...

[@JasonBrant]

That shot sums up the movie well.

[@knowEyeDeer]

From the same directors Steven Seagull uses; here's some more ridiculous weapons handling tips nobody would ever use as a professional. Yes, I can state that as fact, I'm an ex-military weapons and weapons systems expert. That's the dumbest shit. It's only eclipsed by seagulls patented closed eyes shooting, and his equally preposterous switching to his non-master hand while resting the buttstock of his long gun on top of his shoulder... What could possibly go wrong.

[@eeyorehaferbock7870]

@@knowEyeDeerif this movie had come out after CoD got big, you’d almost think they had seen the adage about switching to a pistol being faster than reloading and assumed it somehow applied to firing as well!

[@knowEyeDeer]

@@eeyorehaferbock7870 the wonderful idea that 'game mechanics are exactly like real life' canard. And I'm fairly sure that the most OP weapon in FPS games are knives... 😉

[@NoodlesBeforeDinner]

I think it's great that you occasionally do these big budget stinkers. So many of them are just terrible, but due to the amount of money put into them, they get overlooked and confused with "real" movies.

[@JasonBrant]

Gotta sprinkle some budget on the show every now and then.

[@craigstrickland1572]

The explosions are the only thing holding the plot together. The pyro guy got PAID!!!!!

[@JasonBrant]

Haha, for real.

[@MichaelRainey]

Between casting and pyrotechnics they put every dollar they had in front of the camera and burned it.

[@craigstrickland1572]

@@MichaelRainey Spot on!!

[@jculver1674]

I like to imagine the pyro guy for this movie was Danny McBride's character from Tropic Thunder.

[@craigstrickland1572]

@@jculver1674 Good call

[@RobertDonnyJr-c4e]

“The wheels have come off”… “There’s no car!!!!”

[@JasonBrant]

🤣

[@loneronin6813]

This movie actually has a really interesting production story. The director Kaos actually calls himself that because he is from Thailand and it's part of his full name. He was 24 when he directed this, which was his first film, and he was funded by a con man who basically did what Uwe Boll did and also skimmed off the top of the budget and basically forced Kaos out of having literally any control over his own film and it ruined his career to the point that now he only directs in Thailand and writes his own scripts and keeps as much control over his own films as possible and has only done a total of like three or four movies, none of which have really impressed or done very well but he is still trying. This movie was so out of Kaos's hands that they even changed the name of the film without his say-so. They even cut out almost all of the stunts and edited it severely which is why it's shot so weirdly. There is a lot more to the story, but long story short this movie was going to be a lot better than it ended up being all because a new director got screwed over.

[@loneronin6813]

@@refinedsugar Actually I saw a video that went into the details of this movie's production history and it really fascinated me. It was by a KZbinr called The Unusual Suspect and I think it was on his secondary channel called Suspect Green. I highly recommend checking it out.

[@walmorcarvalho2512]

Holy shit i thought hev was pulling an Alan Smithee since the producer/money guy was basically setting him off to fail. This is much more interesting (and sad)

[@JasonBrant]

Imagine getting a $70 million dollar budget at age 24. I would have made the biggest POS ever.

[@loneronin6813]

@@JasonBrant Who could blame you? lol

[@jamespetkwitz8737]

​@@JasonBrant Part of the story is that the producer Elie Samaha, who started out as a the owner of the LA night club "The Roxbury" and some dry cleaners..actually started getting a bunch of movies made with tax incentives in Canada during this time. A bunch of Stallone Movies and action movies. This movie was essentially taken away from the director...the plot about nanotech was added in to give it a more "matirx scifi" feel...but it was the big nail in the coffin for Samaha, he had to close up his company pretty soon after when people found out that he inflated the budgets on his film (including this one) to get money back in tax rebates and pocket the difference.

[@DecultureReviews]

I remember when this came out. My Dad watched it and said "I don't know which is dumber. This or Battlefield Earth." He later said Battlefield Earth was worse as he didn't remember being bored during Ecks vs. Sever as terrible as it is. That's saying something.

[@thecyberdork776]

This movie and Battlefield Earth were produced by the same producer named Elie Samaha.

[@DecultureReviews]

@@thecyberdork776 That makes sense.

[@JasonBrant]

Your dad is a man of culture.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

I'm surprised Battlefield Earth is so bad. Hollywood is *the* Scientology town. You would think they would be able to make a good movie out of their own religious beliefs.

[@MrNegativecreep07]

BE definitely has more moment of unintentional comedy

[@Voltage362436]

Fun fact, the stuntman playing the sniper who falls on the car was Marvel's go-to guy to play Spider-Man for various public appearances. He was supposed to get his own Spider-Man movie with Cannon Films, but it got scrubbed in favor of making the Masters of the Universe movie.

[@JasonBrant]

He would be an SBIG legend if he played Spider-Man in a Cannon film.

[@shawdawg3675]

​@@JasonBrant Apparently Cannon was going to get Micheal Dudikoff from America Ninja as another choice for Spiderman.

[@shawdawg3675]

Just read Scott Leva, the guy who did the fall got an academy award in 2006 for desiging a safer airbag for falls, and was nominated by World Stunt rewards for that stunt.

[@iaincowell9747]

His name is Scott Leva. If you are going to talk about someone, give their name.

[@reidmason2551]

@@iaincowell9747 Leva was also the model for Joe Jusko's Spider-Man paintings for Marvel posters and trading cards. There's a Jusko piece depicting Peter Parker stripping down to his costume, and Leva's likeness was replicated in that image.

[@albion65]

LOL! I described this movie as "Banderas and Liu blow up half of Canada fighting each other, then team up to blow up the other half!" BTW the only award show where this movie was celebrated was the Stuntman Awards!

[@JasonBrant]

The stuntmen definitely deserved recognition for this one. Amazing work.

[@SCLStuntFan]

Ahhh, Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever... If you ever have time, I recommend the video titled "The Worst Movie Ever: A Tale of Corruption and Studio Meddling" by Suspect Green. In spite of its somewhat clickbaity title, it's actually really interesting. It shows how the director, Kaos, was basically screwed over by the producers who practically changed the whole movie behind his back.

[@O_Towne_Bear]

was an interesting watch

[@kuribayashi84]

Is it wrong that I'd really like to watch the Kaos-Cut of _Ballistic?_

[@JasonBrant]

I'll check it out.

[@Ildar_Bulatov]

Jason, your Commando t-shirt is neat! Every big budget flop: "Remember, guys, when i promised to be the greatest movie you've ever seen?" Viewers: "That's right! You did!" Every big budget flop: "I lied!"

[@JasonBrant]

Haha, thanks!

[@TheSauceYouGetLostin]

Came out in the Techno action era along side: Equilibrium, Blade 2, minority report, transporter 2. Explains so much.

[@MichaelRainey]

Had it been long enough to call these "Matrix-sploitation".

[@henrygvidonas9573]

"What did Antonio Banderas do in this movie?" Well, almost get killed in one of the pyro stunts, for starters...

[@AnikMonette]

Looks like he got schrapnel even up to his a$$!😮

[@jamesnorman9160]

He took that grit to the face like a man. ...he also looked ruggedly handsome throughout, as he does so well. He did that in this movie...

[@mariescott]

The directors name is Wych Kaosayananda and sometimes he's credited as Kaos or Wych Kaos. He's from Thailand. There were changes in the original script - Sever kidnaps Ecks’ son, and the whole time, the boy is basically kept in a kid-sized glass box just big enough for him to sit in, placed on top of a kilo of C4. The whole nanotechnology thing wasn't a motivation until the rewrites. The main reasons for re-writes included way too big and expensive action sequences, a wish for a more serious, darker, and grittier tone, and the story of McElroy's original script focusing more on themes of family love and loss and revenge. Also, Sever was originally male. The had to move production from Bangkok to Vancouver for safety reasons which I believe were caused by 9-11. Unfortunately they had to cut more action scenes because of the moving expenses. During post-production, Kaosayananda was removed from creative control by the producers, who replaced his original editor (Caroline Ross) and denied him final cut privileges. Kaosayananda stated in a 2014 interview that the re-edits also affected the action scenes. They also replaced his first choice of composer composer, Trevor Rabin, with Don Davis, because they wanted a score reminiscent of his work on The Matrix. Originally the film was intended to Wesley Snipes and Jet Li, and then after them Sylvester Stallone and Vin Diesel were going to star. Kaosayananda's preferred choices were Chow Yun-fat and Jean Reno, but producers didn’t consider them financially viable.

[@kingleech16]

That really stinks! It's hard to imagine since so much would be different, but Chow Yun-Fat vs Jean Reno sounds epic as all get out.

[@ghostsquirrel8739]

Wikipedia couldn’t have said it better.

[@kuribayashi84]

The composer-replacement doesn't make sense because Davis' Score for _Ballistic_ has next to nothing in common with what he wrote for the Matrix-Films.

[@thelightwielder]

I was picturing some dude like Danny McBride's character in Tropic Thunder yelling _Big ole titties_ while doing the pyro in this movie.

[@SoloDoloSpaceman]

Mother Nature pissed her pantsuit

[@JasonBrant]

It was definitely a dude with a mullet and muscle shirt.

[@jesse1085]

You guys are on point for the matrix comparisons. In fact, the music was composed by Don Davis, who composed the scores for the Matrix trilogy.

[@cosesu8929]

And Don Davis was shoved in to replace the composer that KAOS actually wanted

[@TheTruthKiwi]

So Don just completely phoned it in and collected the paycheck

[@dannyschaible7112]

Spy vs Spy was originally in Mad Magazine.

[@rickersticker]

I always love when the "old bean factory" makes a return!

[@00tree]

Rey Park… yeah, he was amazing as the headless horseman. The dude was able to convey emotion without a head. When the wagon rolled out of control and hit the horseman, he looked surprised… without a fucking head. That’s some serious body awareness.

[@realityboost4405]

Erin would have been in pyro-guy heaven with this one!

[@shawdawg3675]

The guy who played the main villain was the main antagonist in an Airwolf episode named "Vultures". He was a mysterious assassin who killed multiple people to leave no traces, and flew a Corsair to shoot down his target, but had to fight Airwolf instead.

[@Rasta8889]

Not-Gary-Busey also is the Sheriff in the Firefly episode Train Job.

[@kingleech16]

@@Rasta8889 And Star Lord's uncle in Guardians of the Galaxy. He shows up in pretty much anything James Gunn makes.

[@JasonBrant]

I've seen him in a bunch of stuff, but Airwolf isn't one of them.

[@shawdawg3675]

@@JasonBrant i have first 3 seasons on DVD of Airwolf, it's my 80's tv show. Course by my profile pic, you can tell my favorite cartoon and toy line

[@lephusto3304]

Isn't he also the villain in the 'Heart of Gold' episode of Firefly?

[@peedubya7799]

havent had much fun reading a wikipedia page as i did for this movie in a long time

[@Sangria]

This is when a gang of ghost writers get ALL their ideas into the script

[@henrygvidonas9573]

Nope! This movie was completely destroyed in the editing room. And not by the director, either. He got completely screwed out of his own movie. He was removed from the project, right along with his chosen editor. He had no control over the cut of the movie that was released.He didn't even get the music he wanted. Plus, the production company stole/embezzled half of the budget: Franchise Pictures - if you know, you know. Total frauds. Even though the movie makes no sense whatsoever, the writing wasn't the problem.

[@Sangria]

@@henrygvidonas9573 That is crazy. I just looked it up and you're right!

[@cosesu8929]

​@@henrygvidonas9573What's also messed up is that the credited writer Alan McElroy's original script was way different than what this rewrite, by Peter Lenkov, gave us.

[@SohoEliminator]

Its mainly just slow paced to me. But I also still remember stuff like the mall shootout scene and the reverse handgun execution so it isn't a totally forgettable bomb lol

[@JasonBrant]

There is a ton of action in this - it's just all stupid as hell.

[@KpopApocalypse]

I'm surprised with how often Jason can recall actors in all these bad movies that Talisa Soto wasn't called out this episode as Kitana in the Mortal Kombat movies lol!

[@psychotictactoe]

Ecks vs Sever is based on a Gameboy game, good one at that!

[@JasonBrant]

Was it? Maybe that's what I was thinking of...

[@budfug8691]

Kinda. It was released before the movie, but it was based off an earlier script. weird.

[@psychotictactoe]

@@budfug8691 Ah so the game was done in conjunction with the movie? Crazy as the game is actually really good, movie not so much 🤣

[@fredEVOIX]

a fps gameboy advance game who even knew those existed lol

[@da3iyd3n]

​@@JasonBrantevery bad action movie is usually based off an obscure video game

[@bryce4228]

Loved Brian's Seinfeld reference of the roommate swap.

[@MarshallDog]

The price of gas was $1.44 when this was released in 2002, so with a $70 mil budget we can safely say this movie burnt 48 million gallons of gasoline.

[@henrygvidonas9573]

Half of the budget was outright stolen by the production company. Your math doesn't math, sorry!

[@JasonBrant]

Some interesting math here. You should be an accountant for Hollywood.

[@supereldinho]

This movie brings a whole new meaning to the term "mindless action flick" because even the most schlocky movies like Death Wish 3, Street Fighter or Who Killed Captain Alex have some actual wit or charm that makes them endearing in spite of their flaws. Ballistic is just straight-up braindead without anything resembling wit or charm. This ain't so bad it's good; this is just bad.

[@pa.encema2821]

They like this but hated Double Impact and Cyborg 🙄

[@JasonBrant]

@pa.encema2821 I'm not sure what you don't understand about a show called So BAD It's Good. Double Impact isn't bad enough for the stamp. This isn't rocket surgery.

[@Peri_Stark]

The bad guy blew up both of their cars so each thought the other was dead. Simple.

[@raphaelcarlo9979]

It was actually supposed to be Ballistic. The rest was added by the suits. Believing it was a franchise film.

[@davidwaring6815]

One of the dumbest things ever in a movie is that both of them would believe the other one was dead for 7 years and not figure it out after a day or so is ridiculous.

[@floydlooney6837]

True.

[@JasonBrant]

It's incredible. I mean... didn't they live in the same house before their 'deaths'? Neither heard of their own funerals? No one met with lawyers or family? Really inspired storytelling.

[@ghoffmann821]

This movie had the slowest motorcycle chase ever. Lol

[@Callsign_Spartacus_37Fox]

Lucy Liu is an underrated actress, both in terms of looks and talent.

[@gertruidagertruida3920]

overrated

[@FDNRunningandMotivation-ws1hd]

looks, yeah, talent...not so sure 😂

[@NotThisBrayne]

Erin is gonna both Love you and Hate you Jason for not showing her this movie. Hate you because of all the Pyrotechnics she missed and Love you for not making her sit through it. By the way, this movie has a LOWER Rotten Tomatoes score than BIRDEMIC, THE ROOM, and SANTA CLAUS AND THE ICE CREAM BUNNY!!!. Let THAT sink in! :D And just to drive home the point, THIS movie is worse than EVERY STEVEN SEGAL MOVIE EXCEPT 'TRUE JUSTICE : URBAN WARRIOR ("0") AND "THE FOREIGNER" ("0")!!! Yeah!! :D

[@RadiantSilverlighter]

Your channel was born for this movie. Been waiting a long time for this 😂😂😂. I saw this trash heap in the theater, one of many life mistakes

[@alandhopewell]

Talisa Soto played Vampirella in the Corman film of the same name.

[@gregorypowell9020]

I have to say I’ve been watching you all since it was just you and Brian sitting at a table and watching you all brings me a little joy when I’m really down which I happen to be right now so thank you all for doing what you do and helping me a little though hard times.

[@chumpzilla000]

Honestly, I think the wheels came off at "collateral motion"

[@franciscodanconia4324]

There's sort of a budget here. Notice almost all the stunt cars were 1980s cars (the Caprices, the fox body Mustang, that Olds wagon that skids out). So nearly 20 year old cars. Guess they wanted to spend more on the pyro guy and the armorer.

[@Ostsol]

6:00 "The music is _so_ bad..." The music was composed by Don Davis... who also did the music for _The Matrix._

[@nathanbinns6345]

0% on rotten tomatoes haha. A true ‘classic’

[@bkenwood88]

Thank you for finally helping me watch this! I rented it out to like, 3 people over the years at Blockbuster. I always read the back and thought, "man, it's really sad they had to resort to explaining a stunt that happens on the back blurb in order to generate interest in this piece of shit." Which was the bus stunt btw.

[@gaborlaufer8640]

Although it was almost impossible to notice, Ray Park was already on the channel. He was Raiden's (James Remar) stunt double in Mortal Kombat Annihilation.

[@richblainebrazzle]

The plot, if you care, the main bad guy (the blonde dude that is always the bad guy in every movie he is in) blows up the car to make the woman (Kitana from Mortal Kombat) think Ecks is dead, he blows up the 2nd car to make Ecks think it wife is dead. Yes...its that dumb. The kid is actually Ecks son and Kitana is Ecks' wife. She married the bad guy after Ecks died. The kid is just the "transportation" device to smuggle some Tech into the US. Sever is like Black Widow...captured when she was young and made into an assassin. The blonde guy killed her family when she was young, something she figures out later, and she wants revenge on him, He, BTW, blamed the car bombing that made Ecks and Kitana think the other was dead. She knows about the tech in the kid, and knows Ecks is his father, so she kidnaps him to protect him and she removed the tech from his body. The bad guy doesn't know this, so that's why he goes out of his way to NOT kill her. He doesn't care about the kid, just the tech. So that's all you need to know...if you care... Oh the budget of the movie was $70 million, it made $20million at the box office.

[@kingleech16]

Less insane Gary Busey was a good guy in an episode of Firefly and the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

[@Tricky_Adventures]

I remember a lot of marketing for this movie too which upped that budget even higher. This movie's box office pull at about 50% after the theatre's cut means it made about 10 mil.

[@MBlacklaw]

A few weeks from now... What happened to Jason? Oh, Lucy Liu showed up on his doorstep and tuned him up good!

[@mattolfson9230]

I used to like to consider Ecks vs Sever to be the unofficial prequel to Spy Kids, as a sort of telling of how the kids' parents met (also played by Antonio and Lucy).

[@reidmason2551]

Carla Gugino is the mom in *Spy Kids.* Liu, however, did end up playing Dr. Watson in the Sherlock Holmes series *Elementary.*

[@Blakblooded]

"Kaos" is apparently the new "Alan Smithee".

[@JasonBrant]

I wonder what Kaos thinks of this movie.

[@CorporateCornholio]

@@JasonBrant There are entire documentaries dedicated to that on youtube. The final cut is apparently nothing at all like the movie he was trying to make. He did not even want his name attached to the project in the end.

[@AliceBowie]

​@@CorporateCornholioYeah, I saw a long video explaining all the things that happened to make this so bad. Never saw the actual movie. I hadn't even heard of it before I watched the thing explaining it. I guess it was supposed to be called Ballistic, but the studio insisted on adding "Ecks vs Sever" so the audience would know it had two characters, one named Ecks and one named Sever. The title is so stupid, nobody watched it.

[@markmosley3547]

@@JasonBrant He bloody despises it because its failure sent him back to Thailand and he didn’t make another film for 10 years. The writer got a worse deal though because he never wrote anything ever again.

[@cosesu8929]

​@@markmosley3547The credited writer Alan B McElroy or the uncredited writer Peter Lenkov. Because it would even be more messed up since McElroy's original script was drastically different then what we got

[@MST3K123]

My foot! 😆

[@JasonBrant]

Hah, I nailed him with that toss.

[@KnightOwlSC]

It was more like.. Maaaa foot :D

[@mule-do6tc]

loved that Swordfish joke right at the end. (and yes, I am a computer bro who definitely doesn't look like Hugh Jackman)

[@CandyHughes-db6im]

The bad guy killed at the end is Gregg Henry. Val resnick in payback (plays in scene with Lucy Lou), Jason quill from guardians of the galaxy, Charles Goodson in Scarface etc….

[@robertgrantz6639]

There was a video game before the movie BUT it was based on an early draft of the script. Ecks vs. Sever may sound familar for other reasons (same here) but doesn't look like there was anything outside of the movie as far as IP.

[@stevecomeau3172]

Love the videos. Keep up the good work.

[@BWall-h4d]

There was a bootleg DVD of this lying around the house I shared with friends back when it was a relatively recent release. I must've tried atleast 3 times to watch it, and I can't remember what happened before I turned it off, what made me turn it off, and how long I lasted. It was so shit that my brain erased absolutely everything about it.

[@Chronic.]

There is even a GameBoy Advance FPS based on the Flick.

[@JasonBrant]

Did you play it?

[@Chronic.]

@@JasonBrant Oh Hell yes i did, the graphics looked like in Wolfenstein, 90 Degree Walls and shit. But i was impressed that the GBA was even capable to run it. xD

[@MovieFanatic4500]

Apparently Ecks vs. Sever and Its sequel Ballistic were based on this movie, but the first game came out before the movie due to production and rights licenses separating before the film was released. The production thought that the game would draw attention to the movie and possibly extend everything into a long-running franchise. Also, everything this director has done deserves to be on this channel.

[@jamesnorman9160]

"The wheels didn't wobble, they exploded off! And we are on rims, just sliding down the highway." Goddamnit, they somehow got Lucy Liu AND Antonio Banderas in this! The budget went to their fee, and to the cool explosions and stunts. And the whole Ecks v Sever was either a graphic novel or comic book series I believe.

[@scribesntribes]

Apparently, "Wych Kaosayananda (KAOS) stated he had never seen the finished film." That makes total sense! 😂

[@Sonofspam64]

Just seeing Lucy Liu moving around and doing things is enough to keep my attention for 90 minutes. I'm an easy to please horn dog I guess.

[@charlesstover1520]

Fun fact: my parents bought me a dvd player for my 12th birthday. I was also given some cash to buy any movie I wanted. This movie had just came out and I bought it bc it looked like the Matrix. Boy, was I wrong.

[@CreepyCouchReacts]

I have those same socks, Brian! Except I only wore them once before losing one of them. Skeletor FTW!

[@emberparadox458]

5:04 wonderful semi-auto firing capability on that BOLT-ACTION sniper rifle lol. And the under-barrel grenade launcher turning into a rocket launcher.

[@markiangooley]

I just saw part of a review of this in which the reviewer called Sever “Server.” So… a waitress, or a computer dedicated to handling files.

[@frankwales]

According to IMDb, the score was by Don Davis, who also scored 'The Matrix', so he does know how to do a good, interesting job. Maybe they only gave him a week to write the score

[@cosesu8929]

Well they did replace the composer that the director originally wanted, for him in post-production. The production story for this movie was a shit show. Let's just say the production company that did this also did Battlefield Earth

[@reidmason2551]

Wouldn't be the first time a composer was brought in literally last-minute. James Horner was in that situation on both *Ransom* and *Troy* (the latter film especially suffered because Horner's score was an obvious rush job), and Bear McCreary had to replace Thomas Newman on *The Last Voyage of the Demeter* (which is why that particular score feels generic). It's not an uncommon practice, nor is it uncommon for otherwise good composers to turn out mediocre work under those circumstances.

[@MarcusHardyDJDirtyOne]

Cheers to guys!!!!! I'm still mad at myself for paying to see this in theaters 😆 Love the channel, keep'em coming!!!

[@andrewcramer1484]

"Ray Park might say something pithy!" 😂

[@yankeeinjapan8869]

6:04 is that the actor who plays Joshua from Stargatd Sg-1?!

[@robertparnell4619]

A girlfriend took me to see this since I’m a huge Banderas fan. Walked out of the theater and snuck into Signs. Still think I made the right choice.

[@floydlooney6837]

Did you take her with you to the Signs movie?

[@robertparnell4619]

@@floydlooney6837 Yeah man! That’d be a little too cold blooded. Pretty sure this is shown at JFK Special Warfare School for PsyOps.

[@davidtatro7457]

Wow, Banderas' and Park's and Lucy Liu's careeres survived this. But poor Talisa Soto. She went from notable Bond Girl to this, and l don't remember seeing her in anything else with a budget since.

[@tioknight2496]

Where is that sweet Commando t shirt from?

[@JaredLitherland]

It's like the most expensive movie PM Entertainment never made. Kept waiting for Jason to say, "I love me some bad writing." In this case, I think the script pages were just filled with drawings of people in trench coats shooting Robocop guns, exploding cars, fire, etc.

[@cosesu8929]

And it's an overinflated budget if you believe the director

[@lukewright9031]

OMG 😂 I remember this movie! When it was done I failed to recap the plot and felt completely empty.

[@megatronjenkins2473]

The first movie of mine you've watched, and you give it The Stamp!!!! That makes my day!!!! Seeya guys on Sunday!!!!

[@JaredLitherland]

Congrats, megatronjenkins2473! Just wish Erin would've been in the theater for all of the pyro.

[@Nighthaunter-t3j]

I lived in Vancouver when they filmed this. It was literally "Kaos" with streets and bridges constantly being shut down.

[@mattspeed7665]

Hey it’s possible 😅. I too was that light as a kid with a dad the same skin tone as Banderas . My family used to call me ‘Powder’ like that movie from the 90’s. 😆

[@RolandHazoto]

OMGEEEE I didn't have internet for 8 days and I come back and this is up! This is certainly a much higher budget flick than most of the stuff on this channel, but apt for it

[@Manny.93]

Actidentally slowed the time down to 0.25x at 3:29 and it sounded like you were dying laughing😂

[@MisterReltec]

I would love to see an episode where Brian actually disagrees with Jason for once.

[@orionassante3386]

I love Brian's shirts, especially the Blade Runner themed ones.

[@chimpinaneckbrace]

Kaos sounds like the edge lord version of Alan Smithee. And if it isn’t, it should be.

[@JasonBrant]

🤣

[@henrygvidonas9573]

The director's name is Wych Kaosayananda. He just shortened it, because no American could ever pronounce it correctly to save their life. Most Americans with non-English last names can't even pronounce their own names. Also, mononyms for movie directors were considered to be "cool" at the time - McG, Pitof, etc.

[@reidmason2551]

@@henrygvidonas9573 McG and Pitof are nicknames, to be honest (for Joseph McGinty Nichol and Jean-Christophe Comar, respectively). Tarsem (Singh Dahndwar)? No excuses in his case.

[@MikeOxiner42]

I remember the hype for this coming out. I remember seeing this in the theater. I don't remember anything that happened though....

[@phayroent9742]

5:35 you can see the cable holding the car to keep it from flipping over. Talisa Soto (the not-dead wife) was Kitana in the first two Mortal Kombat movies.

[@Ildar_Bulatov]

Okay, now you guys should watch another Ballistic but from year 1995 with your favorite jacked baddy Cory Everson as female villainess. It's a great 90s cheese and I'm sure you'll find many familiar faces in it.

[@JasonBrant]

Sold!

[@zapusama67]

It was clearly an effects budgeted movie and that was amazing! It was weird that there were top list actors, but no script support for them.

[@tiamat_023]

Man I want that Commando shirt 🪖 and shoutout Killdozier 🚜

[@Deadmaxx]

I bought this movie when it came to DVD. I KNOW I watched it, but watching your video I have absolute zero memory of the plot or anything that went on in the movie. I remember the cover more than any of it. lol. I must have been way more drunk than you two when I watched it 22 years ago. 😂 great review all around!

[@SuperjoeV1]

Not too good for Deathstalker II now are we sweetheart? - Also, you should do Killdozer.

[@eeyorehaferbock7870]

There’s a Killdozer movie?

[@Part-Time-Pope]

I remember seeing this. It would have been more entertaining if they took the money from the budget, put it in a pile, lit it on fire, and had Antonio Banderas dance around the fire.

[@DesertMav]

I actually do remember watching this movie back in the day when it was new and I very well may have seen it in the theater. It looks like they spent all of their Hollywood budget on the effects and forgot to spend anything on writers, the screenplay, or the choreography. This is definitely a nostalgia movie for me.

[@pete4082]

The bubbling pool is definitely an above ground swimming pool, based on the trim. Plus everything in that set reeks of a production designer

[@RealJustinReed]

A channel called Suspect Green has an interesting video about this movie titled "The Worst Movie Ever: A Tale of Corruption and Studio Meddling."

[@davidharris2151]

Budget : $70 million in 2002 is all but $123 million in 2024! 😮

[@CorporateCornholio]

If you believe director it was actually less than half of that.

[@Danimals_as_liters]

Director came out recently saying it was actually about 35 million. The production company was notorious for fraudulently reporting their budgets.

[@davidharris2151]

@@Danimals_as_liters So something dodgy other than the film occured!

[@cosesu8929]

​@@Danimals_as_litersThe same production company as Battlefield Earth. Go figure

[@NefariousKoel]

@@Danimals_as_liters I mean.. all movie productions fraudulently pad their expenses. Often overpaying subcontracting companies also owned by themselves. Doesn't get talked about much but people in the business have occasionally mentioned the Hollywood money shuffling and tax manipulation M.O. over the decades.

[@refinedsugar]

14:25 I think this is my fav part from you guys. Sums up the movie, the bad writing in an excellent but hilarious way.

[@TheeOC]

This was the end for the 80's/90's style of movie for me. Good thing the "DVD man" was a thing back then 🤣🤣

[@garyjamestaylor]

I remember renting this from Blockbuster when it first came out and then forgot about it till now lol

[@OneHippiesMusings]

I don't ever watch Livestreams live, at least I haven't yet. But I was literally this morning considering watching this movie as I was endlessly scrolling through the pages looking for a movie to watch. Haha Nice little case of happenstance.

[@chayimweinstock443]

“The money in this movie! I don’t know what’s happening or why!” Might be the best summation of this movie lol.

[@michaelgrant6332]

This is one of those movies where I miss everything because I play "spot the Vancouver location".