The one game where Ryu is bottom tier

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jmcrofts

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@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 3 жыл бұрын
"I know I've been spamming the feed with a lot of MvC2 lately" It's not spam, it's _zoning_ and I greatly appreciate it
@teckzilla108
@teckzilla108 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I see what you did there
@JonCom3dy
@JonCom3dy 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment
@wudly9195
@wudly9195 2 жыл бұрын
lol!!
@the1JM
@the1JM Жыл бұрын
Very late but this comment is gold 😭
@Wolfedge75
@Wolfedge75 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Ryu’s ever meant to be bad most of the time. It’s just that in here he’s an honest karate boi stuck in a cast of broken characters.
@feri7mble
@feri7mble 3 жыл бұрын
True, but he still has strangely bad hit confirms as the video said. With the ability to hit confirm consistently into launcher and more damage he wouldn't be a high tier character, would still play honest, but he would suck less.
@prime98k4
@prime98k4 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. His design is meant to be your introduction to fighting games and give you a fair start
@teckzilla108
@teckzilla108 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu should always be the standard/average character never low tier. That is some BS on Capcom's part to make Ryu like this
@jorgerascon1212
@jorgerascon1212 3 жыл бұрын
@@teckzilla108 it was not on purpose. The game was horribly unbalanced and few of the characters we're just fucking broken. They do a much better job in marval 3 in making him more viable.
@teckzilla108
@teckzilla108 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgerascon1212 fair enough, at least they made up for it in subsequent editions
@Affectionateflower
@Affectionateflower 3 жыл бұрын
What’s even more shocking is how Akuma’s bottom tier too, dude’s almost always high/top tier lol
@QuinnClips247
@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын
His health is so low
@QuinnClips247
@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын
Shotos are not good in this game. Ken is decent. Cyclops is the best “shoto” in the game while not being originally a shoto character.
@blaire9524
@blaire9524 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuinnClips247 yeah capcom characters that came from games that doesnt have magic series makes them pretty bad
@Hatchbasic
@Hatchbasic 3 жыл бұрын
His Heath is garbage
@ImperatorZed
@ImperatorZed 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaire9524 Game where people throw fireballs at each other does not have magic. ok.
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 3 жыл бұрын
Don't care. Still put Ryu on my A team, I grew up with the guy. I know him...intimately. I lose a lot.
@lightup6751
@lightup6751 3 жыл бұрын
You live by “the way of the Fist.” You are a true warrior.
@microblast3700
@microblast3700 3 жыл бұрын
His aa assist is ok i guess
@DrEcho
@DrEcho 3 жыл бұрын
Me and Gambit fr
@robertmatthews9650
@robertmatthews9650 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about Spider-Man. I bear my cross with pride.
@gonzalotorres5282
@gonzalotorres5282 3 жыл бұрын
I can say the same with Akuma in my team.
@Mythicalmage
@Mythicalmage 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a breakdown of the whole cast, what their playstyles are etc.
@niksimmons4448
@niksimmons4448 3 жыл бұрын
Colossus would be the shortest video of them all.
@SleepyChloeFist
@SleepyChloeFist 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Or at least, his favourite
@iamthereddemon20
@iamthereddemon20 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely interested to see this
@slowmotion171
@slowmotion171 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a crazy amount of work. I'd love to see it too, but if we're talking a video for each character on top of other uploads, I just don't see that being something you get done quickly. Maybe over the course of a year, but still.
@naejimba
@naejimba 3 жыл бұрын
I know that would be a ton of work, but the more detailed he can get on this crazy game the better.
@StardustBamma
@StardustBamma 3 жыл бұрын
The answer to why alot of characters are bad inthis game is just "Sentinel"
@TheEphemeralEternity
@TheEphemeralEternity 3 жыл бұрын
The irony that a random marvel grunt bot wrecks the entire roster is hilarious tho.
@microblast3700
@microblast3700 3 жыл бұрын
Sentinel and storm
@midare39
@midare39 3 жыл бұрын
And Cable with any assist
@mjul7003
@mjul7003 3 жыл бұрын
The shocking thing is that you're not wrong
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEphemeralEternity Totally makes sense in lore - they're supposed to be gigantic mutant killing machines unfortunately they suck at it in the X-Men cartoon
@awfulfalafelwafflerofl2800
@awfulfalafelwafflerofl2800 3 жыл бұрын
Back in college, at the student union, I used to play as a team of Ken, Ryu and Akuma and I managed to do pretty well. I would pick all white gis for them and constantly use assists. It would sometimes confuse my opponent on which character was the "legal" fighter and which was doing the assist. And I would often do fun combos of Ken's hurricane kick assist into Ryu's hadouken super while the opponent was still in the air. Got a lot of compliments from that. If I really wanted to show off, I'd do a triple hurricane kick super: Ken's into Ryu's into Akuma's. Probably not the best use of supers but it was pretty to look at. Got a lot of oohs and aahs from that one. I'm sure I would have gotten wrecked from anyone competent (and I did lose sometimes to others on that particular machine), but it was fun times regardless.
@stephencook7337
@stephencook7337 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Ken’s air Tatsu tho😂👍🏾
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 3 жыл бұрын
I like Akuma in 2 and 3
@BrothaMan831
@BrothaMan831 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the student union clapped. 👏 👏 👏
@awfulfalafelwafflerofl2800
@awfulfalafelwafflerofl2800 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrothaMan831 That's a bit of an exaggeration, haha
@reflex9238
@reflex9238 3 жыл бұрын
My brother had the same team except he used Dhalism over Akuma.
@maplecinna3979
@maplecinna3979 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like Ryu thrives a little bit more in this ratio setting because of his cost. It allows you to pick a better overall team because you can have a low point character with decent assist and good meter burn for cheap.
@keithragin89
@keithragin89 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@bloodeagle6458
@bloodeagle6458 2 жыл бұрын
Yes his fireball assist or anti air dp is perfect for a third assist backup
@roysrevengefgcofficial1508
@roysrevengefgcofficial1508 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you and Justin continue to do these types of videos on every character in the game along with some really viable team compositions for beginner and intermediate players. We need more video knowledge of this game to help newer players, keep doing what you're doing!
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I only realized JW had a channel because of his guest star vids here. Now I can understand how much I suck from TWO channels! (His channel is excellent) But yes more MVC2 content please.
@TeflonBTM
@TeflonBTM 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu has been considered a low tier character multiple times. It’s Akuma that’s surprising IMO
@AegisKHAOS
@AegisKHAOS 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in seeing the title, my thought was basically along the lines of 'only one?' Hell, until season 5, Ryu was low tier in much of SF5's life, because someone got a little too crazy with his nerfs after launch.
@alexisarcos703
@alexisarcos703 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how Ryu pretty good in the versus game no one remembers man I miss TvC
@MrMarket1987
@MrMarket1987 3 жыл бұрын
If memory serves, all the characters performed quite well there. That game was surprisingly well made all around. Heck, it arguably has the best Morrigan in looks and gameplay.
@ironboy89
@ironboy89 3 жыл бұрын
They gave Ryu air dash tho.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMarket1987 TvC is the most underrated Capcom fighting game.
@RealFakeRealSlimShady
@RealFakeRealSlimShady 3 жыл бұрын
Him and Alex
@cobracomandor2234
@cobracomandor2234 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrMarket19871st morragon 3d moddle that latter went on to make the mvc3 mpragaon
@SquidwardProfilePic
@SquidwardProfilePic 3 жыл бұрын
I have always loved the Ryu design in this game, he’s far less of a beef cake and the loose brown hair looks proper.
@adrenalinex4
@adrenalinex4 3 жыл бұрын
Capcom vs snk ryu looks better
@iransilva5857
@iransilva5857 3 жыл бұрын
This is young Ryu from sfA
@Vespyr_
@Vespyr_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@iransilva5857 Teen Titans Ryu
@Pyrobaconstudios
@Pyrobaconstudios 3 жыл бұрын
You have the alpha series to thank for that. same for slick bishounen ken here. honestly, alpha in general had peak character design IMO. Love chun-li and cammies alpha outfits as well.
@SquidwardProfilePic
@SquidwardProfilePic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pyrobaconstudios I forgot alpha was even a thing, the only street fighter games I’ve ever owned was 2 turbo and 3rd strike, and the alpha aesthetic kinda steamrolls both of those games
@manny7369
@manny7369 3 жыл бұрын
JM: Ryu is bad JustinW: Challenge accepted!
@TheSituationIlyasviel
@TheSituationIlyasviel 3 жыл бұрын
Keep the tutorials for mvc2 coming please i really liked the one with the 5 tips i would really appreciate some tips for a beginner who keeps losing to cpu in arcade :)
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 3 жыл бұрын
I 2nd this comment.
@MarvelInkaWarriors
@MarvelInkaWarriors 3 жыл бұрын
We have some footage in the channel may help you bro
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR 3 жыл бұрын
ProTip 1: Snapback Rogue out at all costs ProTip 2: Snapback Storm out at all costs ProTip 3: Have at least one beam character at all times
@allenalbritton4115
@allenalbritton4115 3 жыл бұрын
Man, me and my brothers used to play this nonstop on Dreamcast and we thought we were pretty good. I used to clean house at the local mall arcade playing the Ryu, Akuma, Iron Man. I might sub Akuma for Ken against players rocking large characters. Watching your channel has taught me that I was utter garbage in the games I thought I was good at lol.
@nintruendo6411
@nintruendo6411 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking you're good and being humbled is a big part of fighting game development. I used to tell people to fight me when you think you're good. Then I'd kick their ass and tell them there's at least 2 tiers of players above me. Most stop playing, but some come back to kick my ass, and that's what I like to see.
@harambo88
@harambo88 3 жыл бұрын
@@nintruendo6411 sad thing is, many ppl want others to be as miserable as them instead of getting a whole new idea of what is possible and try to become as good as the good ppl. no, they prefer to drag dirt on the good ones, so they dont look that bad. this comment is universal usable, not only in this context
@PinkManGuy
@PinkManGuy 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO seeing that Justin Wong tierlist cracked me up. My brother brought me to tears with Spiderman and he was D tier? Oh memories.
@FlytoZenith
@FlytoZenith 3 жыл бұрын
God I'm so happy about all the new MVC2 videos. I adore this game so much
@MarvelInkaWarriors
@MarvelInkaWarriors 3 жыл бұрын
Mvc2 4 a life bro we share content too
@JadeJackal4
@JadeJackal4 3 жыл бұрын
The gameplay wasnt actually in Ryu's favor, more like Iron Gief and Omega red
@ShinRyojin
@ShinRyojin 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt that Ryu was still stuck in his Alpha gameplay while His fellow Street, Fighters adapted more to the MVC style. Starting with TVC, he began to play more like he’s in a versus game as opposed to a Street Fighter game.
@los802000
@los802000 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m so salty I’m done with this game… No I’m not done yet.” That’s my daily battle cry, lol 😂
@Abigdummy4life
@Abigdummy4life 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is though, in TvC, he got a lot of boons. *Better footspeed/walkspeed than expected *Universal air dash mechanics (can air dash from one jump/super jump, then air dash again from the double jump) which gave him far better mobility for approach *Because of using his Street Fighter 4 version as a base, he now has effective poking range for hit confirms via being grown-up from his Alpha/Zero incarnation *Roster was a bit tamed down despite still existing clear top tiers *As a result his assist was an amazing combo extender *The whole cast having linear-yet-solid-zig-zag magic series chain combos for their normals gave them great hit confirms Then MvC3 made him the way he used to be: no air dash, no double jump, slapped back in the broken Marvel characters and even nerfed his footspeed and made his magic series no longer zig-zag. Yeah, he's been through shit again, arguably low tier in those games once more. Tatsunoko vs. Capcom was the one game in both versions where he was even high-to-mid tier.
@joetalentoh
@joetalentoh 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I am loving the MVC2 content lately, I don't usually catch a lot of your streams but I caught this one yesterday and it was a blast! Looking forward to more
@thetonebox
@thetonebox 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Ryu tech: Reverse-side shinshoryuken on opponent's incoming, dhc into tatsu super to punish a punish, and the swaggy just-above-the-ground roundhouse throw into shinkuhado. plus he looks the least silly wavedashing
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 3 жыл бұрын
One other note about Shinku Hadoken: using it in the air causes it to have instant startup, like AHVB. This does help for some punishes here and there that you normally can't get, even if it's not nearly as potent. There are two reasons why this isn't as useful as AHVB: the first is that the beam has a travel time, so if the enemy isn't in your grill, they still have time to block. And B: unlike AHVB, this has a bunch of end lag, so you can't do any obscene follow-ups. Still, it's a nice little extra thing to note about this guy, who can use all the help he can get.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 3 жыл бұрын
One game?! He was bottom tier for most of sf5. And he’s STILL bottom tier in mvc3.
@Amsalja12
@Amsalja12 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about wolverine
@QuinnClips247
@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын
He was also pretty bad haha but at least he was better than Ryu in this game. UMVC3 he’s way better and the other fighting games in the 90’s.
@lightup6751
@lightup6751 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the difference in mechanics between bone claw wolverine and adamantium claw wolverine?
@absoul112
@absoul112 3 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@lostinaseaofdreams
@lostinaseaofdreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@lightup6751 The big one is that Bone has the low hitting assist and Adamantium 2 extra supers and an extra special move. Other than that, they are pretty similar.
@Amsalja12
@Amsalja12 3 жыл бұрын
@@absoul112 both?
@thedoctormma9433
@thedoctormma9433 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Cyclops is S tier but WOLVERINE is D tier infuriates me
@thathandleistakentrythisone
@thathandleistakentrythisone Жыл бұрын
"You have to spend meter to make meter" -jmcrofts
@joseaguirre4642
@joseaguirre4642 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu has his flaws but you can make it work. One thing I discovered was that if you get tatsu super in the corner, you can do down short and up fierce for a otg combo
@door_productions4896
@door_productions4896 Жыл бұрын
How did you start with the last character you choose at 15:05
@Galactic123
@Galactic123 7 ай бұрын
One weird thing I realized when messing around with low tier teams is that if you throw Ryu's hurricane kick in the middle of an air combo and all the kicks land, it will do MASSIVE damage for some reason. You can 100% a Strider or Bonerine with it. At least, this was true in the arcades. Not sure if they fixed it in the DC/emulator versions.
@JNAMOTORSPORTS
@JNAMOTORSPORTS 3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of stuff that needs to be balanced and fixed in a HDR remake I’ve already said leave the top tiers alone and just fix the bottom tiers Even the mids are pretty good The most broken thing about this game is the assists that could have been fixed
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 3 жыл бұрын
I think they should just add a new balance mode to a rerelease. That way you can have both the classic 'balance' and then a new more balanced mode. Maybe they can get Justin Wong and couple other folks to consult on that mode. Also they can build the ratio mod into the game. Just make it so when you select a mode you then choose normal match or ratio match.
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR 3 жыл бұрын
The "fixed and balanced HDR remake" was Marvel 3; and it still left Chun-Li crippled *shrugs* Not that it's not doable; just that it's not what everyone WANTS in Marvel 2.
@gogokowai
@gogokowai 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu's not bad, everyone else is just really good
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR 3 жыл бұрын
No, Ryu is objectively terrible in this game. He has nothing at close range (points to combo-off-medium attempts) He has nothing at long range (except Shinku-Hadoken, and that's meter-dependent) He has no mobility at all The only characters he can move in to throw loop are arguably more dangerous (and damage) than him in said close range, without the range deficiency If not for Shinku-Hadoken, he would easily be a Ratio 1 character
@blyat8832
@blyat8832 3 жыл бұрын
The person who replied clearly didn't get the joke lmao
@antonsimmons8519
@antonsimmons8519 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu may be classified as bad, but when I play him as part of a zoner team(usually with cable and either cyclops or iron man) I often use him as a point character and do well. He kinda a speedy boi, and shinku hadoken is pretty good.
@Davy_Baby
@Davy_Baby 3 жыл бұрын
That last win was all just basic street fighter!! Haha Soo sick!! 🔥🔥 Love that you're making better MVC2 VIDEOS than back in the day.. I'm still always looking for modern tutorials bod the game on resets, combos, and the main basics of proper combos.. a little beyond the magic series if this makes sense... Anyways... Love the content!!
@kk-995
@kk-995 3 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of these mvc2 videos keep em coming man
@MarvelInkaWarriors
@MarvelInkaWarriors 3 жыл бұрын
Mvc2 4 a life we share videos too
@BHS289
@BHS289 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t mind seeing more character breakdowns of the bottom half of the roster, particularly characters like Chun Li, Guile, Hayato, etc.
@xRhychux
@xRhychux 3 жыл бұрын
Strike while the iron is hot homie. Keep these detailed mvc2 videos coming
@crazykid1325
@crazykid1325 3 жыл бұрын
Roll back was made for smash and this game gets it before ultimate?
@astroidroach1873
@astroidroach1873 3 жыл бұрын
People dragging Ryu kinda of makes me happy as a big Ken and Akuma fan. It’s seem like ryu is goku and Ken is vegta and Akuma is Beerus 🤣
@sigurdtheblue
@sigurdtheblue 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure where Ryu ranks in 1, but he is also at the bottom in Infinite. But Infinite is actually really well balanced so the only characters that seem truly weak are Chris, Hulk, Black Widow, Captain Marvel and Black Panther. Ryu has been placed probably lower than some of those characters on tier lists before, but I really doubt he is that bad. Anyway, Ryu is basically bottom in every Marvel vs Capcom at that point. I find it funny that so many supers in this game seem to be improved in damage by mashing. It is a fun game design element but also not that practical.
@crazymotoman2376
@crazymotoman2376 Жыл бұрын
Ryu can beat everyone except Sentinel. But you have to train with him extensively to make full use of him. His combos are meant to be less hits, Jab, HP, Hadouken into Shinkuu Hadouken is devastating. Ryu forces you to understand damage scaling. His tatsu hits harder than the other shotos too, if you have an assist that grabs the opponent (Akuma tatsu assist) hit them with a Hardkick tatsu for three hits and look at the damage count. Don't like your positioning after an attack do a tatsu into super jump (same as air hyper viper beam only backwards with one kick) Watch him take off at a 45 degree angle backwards, great for escapes and positioning against storm/doom and can be canceled into shinkuu hadouken for a little extra surprise (practice the timing). Ryu's ground to air fireball (Air hyper viper motion with one punch) is an annoying wide projectile, throw multiple jab versions when appropriate. It also goes through/over storm's wind projectile and simultaneous blocking her from air dashing forward for rush down forcing her to go high making her predictable. Same deal with magneto till the player realizes magneto has a fireball too (Some players never do). Ryu has an answer for everyone but sentinel if you really think about it.
@ManySkies
@ManySkies 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been more of a Ken/Gōki player than Ryū in any given game just because I have more fun with combos than large single hits, and Ryū's never been big on combos; if I want what he tends to bring for me MvC2, I'll just play Cable or sidestep to a contact hyper like the Servbot horde or Weapon X or Final Justice or maybe Max Spider. But then I'm 100% garbage at assists, so probably I suck at this game despite it being my all-time fav fighter.
@philithegamer8265
@philithegamer8265 2 жыл бұрын
LULZ on that last comment
@ManySkies
@ManySkies 2 жыл бұрын
@@philithegamer8265 Truth hurts sometimes. XD
@DanielGuerrero-cy8cb
@DanielGuerrero-cy8cb 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man. I've seen guys like Tenderloin, Luis Marvel or Skitz taking down top tier teams with this character. I mean you may not like it but this character is very versatile.
@DerrickWhitsyJr
@DerrickWhitsyJr 3 жыл бұрын
Big facts this man has clearly not watched enough high level mid tier games with Ryu being played...
@paulroy6316
@paulroy6316 3 жыл бұрын
when mashing what buttons do you press? ive never understood mashing
@luliu4572
@luliu4572 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu in MVC2: I'm in a hole. I just need to dig myself out. Ryu in SFV: Alright. I'm still digging. Ryu in SSBU: Now I can't climb out.
@Pyrobaconstudios
@Pyrobaconstudios 3 жыл бұрын
Eh... SSBU ryu can actually do some sick stuff though. definitely better than the first two examples at least
@bryantnonya8704
@bryantnonya8704 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu is trash in basically every Street fighter game and all the perks go to Ken which has always pissed me off! Growing up my friend was a Ken fan and I was a Ryu fan but in each revision of Street fighter 2 they always made Ryu worse and Ken better... Honestly Ryu is actually pretty good in this game but he's more of a defensive fighter...
@mattb9664
@mattb9664 3 жыл бұрын
Those animations still look so beautiful! It would probably look great as an upres'd 4K game. Which I'm sure we'd all be fine spending $20 or $25 on for the modern systems.
@ReaperSound
@ReaperSound 3 жыл бұрын
I never noticed Ryu's range was so short.
@nathansmith3168
@nathansmith3168 3 жыл бұрын
I loved playing Ryu as a low tier character but yes, he needs a lot of help from assist and usually has to be up close for his most damaging combos. Ken's tatsu assistant is a good link for Ryu Shinkuu Hado, as well as Cyclops Gene Splice, there's more but that's was what I like to do when I played MVC2 in the arcades.
@Stormy_Fairweather
@Stormy_Fairweather 3 жыл бұрын
he's not a combo character. he's a counter character. you have to be better than your opponent to play him, but when you are that is where he shines. he is all about single hit punishes. ryu isnt meant to be played like the rest... he's ryu.
@philithegamer8265
@philithegamer8265 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a good playstyle in a combo heavy metagame such as MvC anything.
@ThrashMetalWolf666
@ThrashMetalWolf666 2 жыл бұрын
Cyclops, and Cable can do the same thing but far better than Ryu.
@gebgeb1
@gebgeb1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize for filling my feed with quality content jm
@RePlayQ
@RePlayQ 3 жыл бұрын
Plz don’t apologize about mvc2 content keep it coming!! I’m waiting for my hitbox to come in to start playing!!
@ivanalexeev6505
@ivanalexeev6505 Жыл бұрын
This is so fun to watch. Makes me wanna come back and learn to play again.
@ToastyYokai
@ToastyYokai 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite fight was at 9:22, i love the 'i'm ready" lol hype all around
@xSolBadguy
@xSolBadguy 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is dedicated to playing Hayato in some manner, can you make a video on him? Thanks :)
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR 3 жыл бұрын
I played Hayato for one reason, and that was to learn the new controls. You'll want to (arguably) learn his Plasma Combos (sequences that start with back + LP); and how to combo into qcb + KK super
@TonyTheTGR
@TonyTheTGR 3 жыл бұрын
If you land qcb + KK super (and he glows), then Hayato (not your team!) gets unlimited meter for 10 seconds. Abuse the other two for chip. He also has a Raging Demon equivalent (LP, LP, fwd, LK, HP in sequence to use it); except it's blockable and the whole gimmick of RD is that it's *not.* Otherwise, he plays just like a lesser Wolverine, but without Drill Claw.
@ThrashMetalWolf666
@ThrashMetalWolf666 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTheTGR Using his supers for chip is just asking to be punished. It's better to use his plasma field super after his DP in the corner (light DP for air combos, heavy DP for ground combos) to setup his Raging Demon for good damage. His Demon can also be easily comboed after Shiden, and his plasma combos. Basically Hayato can be a threat if he lands a combo, or punishes the point and assist character with his plasma combos, but his rushdown being unsafe due to many of his normals having a good amount of lag is what makes him a rather weak character.
@naejimba
@naejimba 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I'm LOVING these MvC2 vids... I want to learn more about how to play it!
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 3 жыл бұрын
How hard is this to set up to be able to play online? I want to try learning a vs game for the first time (outside of tatsunoko vs Capcom which really needs to be rereleased)
@tgo007
@tgo007 3 жыл бұрын
easy
@throwerkid330
@throwerkid330 3 жыл бұрын
took less than 15min
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 3 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for the info!
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 3 жыл бұрын
There's a ratio mod now. You can patch the DC version with it. It's actually pretty sick. I'm diggin on it. Hopefully more folks patch it in and we can have rollback ratio matches very easily.
@Maury1321dFreitas
@Maury1321dFreitas 3 жыл бұрын
I think that if I just lowered the damage and life bar of top tier characters, increased the damage and life bar of low tier characters, this would already bring a great increase of possibilities in matches even if FrameData and Hitboxes are broken. my god the 4 god tiers do a lot of damage without spending any resources and Sentinel has a lot of health. For example if you take Ryu and increase your damage, Wolverine and increase your life or decrease Sentinel and Storm's DAMAGE AND LIFE. this would already bring a slight balance without changing framedata or hitbox.
@CheddarGetter
@CheddarGetter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maury1321dFreitas In a perfect world they'd add an additional mode where they rebalance the roster. Clean up issues with hit confirms and hitboxes as well. So you select arcade or vs mode or ratio mode, then you select classic or new balance. I think that's they way to do it. Just get Justin Wong and a few other Marvel Gods to consult on it and it should be sick.
@Maury1321dFreitas
@Maury1321dFreitas 3 жыл бұрын
@@CheddarGetter Oh man this is a big Dream, make me cry tears (T-T)
@dreamcastspirit1386
@dreamcastspirit1386 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the mod, I’ve been asking everywhere and everyone keeps trying to say “nah bro it’s nulldcbear”.
@zxxted_77
@zxxted_77 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you cover Hayato. I think he's pretty cool but i don't see much on him and I wanna see some cool new stuff w him.
@moe3235
@moe3235 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these mvc2 vids right now! Keep’em coming!
@bluewulv
@bluewulv 3 жыл бұрын
Here's how to patch Ryu for this game. (#freemvc2) Deal more damage Increase hit confirms Decrease pushback in attavks for better combos And I think that eould help Ryu. Again #freemvc2
@vitorodino9851
@vitorodino9851 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone reading this is a MVC2 Nooby and is interested in playing, please respond! I'm not new to fighting games but I'm new to MVC2 but I'm having trouble finding reliable matches.
@kumaSOevl
@kumaSOevl 3 жыл бұрын
I like all this content because it's like updated tutorials/guides for 2021
@t-virus7098
@t-virus7098 3 жыл бұрын
JM: apologizing for constant my making content for one of the best fight game Me: MORE CONTENT
@zachhhhhhhhb
@zachhhhhhhhb 3 жыл бұрын
Just started playing mvc2 last night for the first time ever I need all these videos
@MarvelInkaWarriors
@MarvelInkaWarriors 3 жыл бұрын
we have mvc2 footage too
@r1konTheAutomator
@r1konTheAutomator 3 жыл бұрын
That last match tho - shades of 3rd strike with that poke + throw
@skeiths4649
@skeiths4649 3 жыл бұрын
Ryu is a rather fun character to play. He's a main when I play lower tier team (Ryu, Doom, C. America). He's not as combo oriented as Ken or Akuma, but he seems to get a boost in defense after falling below 25%...or it could be just me... Something you should know about Shinku Hadoken: it's best at mid-range, as it's pitiful up-close and only decent full screen. You can also "Cable-style" super (air HVB but without recovery for repeat) for a near-instant, surprise activation (great against whiffed assists). As for combos: a dash-in standing jab, jab, fierce, hadoken into shinku hadoken is a standard ground combo that does great damage. Only do 1 jab for non dash-ins or at start-of-round. Just be careful is you have 3 levels of super as you probably will trigger shin-shoryuken instead of shinku hadoken. For air combo: the standard 4 hit, hadoken into (this is hard) shinku hadoken. The timing has to be spot on because the normal hadoken causes knockdown, although it is easily done against an assist. It can do fairly good damage and looks cool as a bonus.
@docriley79
@docriley79 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why they took away his "evil ryu" transformation from the first one! Then have you fight akuma broken a$$!
@glennbutcher9182
@glennbutcher9182 3 жыл бұрын
Will there be a chance of you doing tutorial on Marvel vs Capcom 2? As I've just picked up the game by the way videos are awesome
@skymoone
@skymoone 3 жыл бұрын
even more marvel please!!! i'm brand new to vs games and i'm having trouble figuring out how to approach them and your content is always helpful!!
@josephcoffey2175
@josephcoffey2175 3 жыл бұрын
I like Ryu in this game, I usually have great rounds with him, but I do agree with his damage output and the short range attacks are a small issue, but all in all I think Ryu is great
@zZbobmanZz
@zZbobmanZz 3 жыл бұрын
Please don’t stop making these videos, I love hearing you talk about mvc2
@TheSquidJackson
@TheSquidJackson 3 жыл бұрын
JM, as a young lad, I knew nothing of FG’s but when one day I saw and MvC1 cabinet on a weekend trip to California and recognized Mega Man on the demo screen, I knew there was only one character for me. Please, show us the Mega Man
@DJKmoneydog
@DJKmoneydog 3 жыл бұрын
I can care less about tiers, still kicking ass with ryu on my team
@cristinaacevedo6118
@cristinaacevedo6118 2 жыл бұрын
W
@ThatOldSchoolMagic
@ThatOldSchoolMagic 3 жыл бұрын
As a suggestion. I’d like to see more details on Characters like Colossus, Omega Red, Silver Samurai, Anakaris and Sabretooth.
@Roufus55
@Roufus55 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh I miss this game. I hope for an official release because I'm not sure how to emulate it.
@Mondolation
@Mondolation 3 жыл бұрын
Buh-ROW! That second match was so hype!
@XXMARIOXX-dk4po
@XXMARIOXX-dk4po 2 жыл бұрын
Ryu out here doing the turtle house special. Master Roshi would be proud
@myrmidon2537
@myrmidon2537 3 жыл бұрын
Thing about his "good" fireball super is that on the ground, its slower (and can be super jumped out of on reaction), if you do it in the air/Tiger knee it, its faster, but since you can't control it like a beam, some characters may be able to crouch under it (especially if you screw up the timing) He's basically "horribly-normalized-nerfhammer'd-cable" :(
@SpiderMan2012channel
@SpiderMan2012channel 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny you said that because Ryu TK shinku hadoken is one frame faster than Cable AHVB
@myrmidon2537
@myrmidon2537 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpiderMan2012channel exactly! I havent tested it in a while, but in theory cable can ahvb you before ground shinkuu hits him, but not when its done in the air. Maybe its distance specific too, but again, i havent tested it in a long time and i have no way to at the moment, but in theory TKSH will beat ahvb if the ahvb super flash comes after ryu's fireball leaves his hand midscreen. (Feel free to correct if i mis-remembee this) Not like its ever gonna happen in a real match lol, but mvc2 is crazy and thats why I love it.
@revoltechie7799
@revoltechie7799 3 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you could comment and show us the strengths and weaknesses of the characters during the match-ups. Pause. Rewind. Slow-mo. Show us what is happening when something significant happens. That’d be icing on the cake!
@salt7582
@salt7582 3 жыл бұрын
Ironman unibeam and assist version have the same property as ryu super it will hit both point and assist characters I believe optic blast shares this properties as well Captain America charging star has the same property as well Also ice beam does not break sentinel armor and ice beam stops at whoever it hits first When Justin told max on his video that he would change nothing about the game was crazy The cast drastically needs an overhaul from frame data improvement to property changes to even make some characters decent
@LordRaptor
@LordRaptor 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't he arguably even worse in UMvC3? I mean sure, he's low tier in Marvel 2, but Marvel 2 has a sh!t tier below a low tier with like, 10 characters who are way worse than Ryu not to mention characters on his tier that are worse than him, while in UMvC3, he's gotta be around bottom 5 right?
@KillaRock404
@KillaRock404 3 жыл бұрын
He’s decent in UMVC3. Can do a ton of damage if you have the meter. Akuma is just better so he doesn’t see much play. The characters who are worse than him are Hsien Ko, Felicia, She Hulk, Nemisis, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, VJ imo
@Melanatedhatervibez
@Melanatedhatervibez 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, way better in Umvc3 and I'd dare say he's mid-low ish'. Ryu is actually pretty good character in 3 just that there are characters that live and breathe fuckery. That's the difference 🤣
@KillaRock404
@KillaRock404 3 жыл бұрын
@@Melanatedhatervibez best wat to put it lol. hes too honest
@Melanatedhatervibez
@Melanatedhatervibez 3 жыл бұрын
@@KillaRock404 haha yup that's old man Ryu for ya. He didn't get with the zoomer times
@coltonross2227
@coltonross2227 3 жыл бұрын
Keep the mvc2 content coming you glorious bastard!
@Maury1321dFreitas
@Maury1321dFreitas 3 жыл бұрын
I think that if I just lowered the damage and life bar of top tier characters, increased the damage and life bar of low tier characters, this would already bring a great increase of possibilities in matches even if FrameData and Hitboxes are broken. my god the 4 god tiers do a lot of damage without spending any resources and Sentinel has a lot of health. For example if you take Ryu and increase your damage, Wolverine and increase your life or decrease Sentinel and Storm's DAMAGE AND LIFE. this would already bring a slight balance without changing framedata or hitbox.
@gregsochacki7290
@gregsochacki7290 3 жыл бұрын
my local card shop use to have this on free play, use to play all the time. I still have trauma from cable. Loved the game though, this and Street fighter 3 made me come back to fighting games.
@doncinati7644
@doncinati7644 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you go over Ken, people say he’s low tier but I think he’s way better than Ryu
@jesusramos5633
@jesusramos5633 3 жыл бұрын
I think I might have just seen you on null about a half hour ago? Challenged but no dice : p. Great ryu vid, I wish he was better but I still play him all the time x D
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely would not say he is trash just due to his great assist in Dragon Punch that deals with a lot of stuff. That short range is rough.
@robertjones6787
@robertjones6787 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being able to set up his spinning kick super with a light jump kick and launching it. Same with the dragon punch super and light punch.
@ratfink2079
@ratfink2079 6 ай бұрын
Here after the collection got announced, my teams gonna be captian america, ryu, and cyclops, its gonna be so awsome
@mikaelamonsterland
@mikaelamonsterland 3 жыл бұрын
remember when i played this game when i was 5 i picked him, wolverine, and spiderman but the more recent times ive tried it i think just spamming projectiles with cable, cyclops, and mega man is more fun
@NaviofTheVoid
@NaviofTheVoid 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, This game is amazing. I got a question for those of you here who play this. Where do you guys play? I know there are discords but do you guys know any good discords or just beginner friendly so I can get into this goodness!
@michaelpowell3204
@michaelpowell3204 3 жыл бұрын
You can DHC Final Atomic Buster's full damage. If you do that into Shin Shoryuken the damage is immense. If you put a small linker in the middle that can be 100%
@KillaRock404
@KillaRock404 3 жыл бұрын
Also Ryu's tatsu assist is unscaled. You hit someone in the corner with it, they're losing 50% easy
@augsto12341
@augsto12341 3 жыл бұрын
Could you cover Stryder?
@no64256
@no64256 2 жыл бұрын
This video was in the search results when I looked up "Ryu is Strong" looking that Ryu combo video from 2009. Lol
@percebus
@percebus 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you not pushing back on block? (with dash button)
@MasCo630
@MasCo630 3 жыл бұрын
That Ryu vs akuma/ken at the end 👌🏼
@RandoBox
@RandoBox 3 жыл бұрын
What is the scoop on Omega Red? Can you do a short intro to him like Ryu?
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm planning on it
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