5:33 a very important part of this super is the fact that the startup has a disgusting amount of invincibility AND you can cancel the startup. So if you activate super you can use the screen freeze to see what your opponent is doing and if you recognize a button, you can immediately cancel the startup and input a guaranteed parry into punish. If you don't see them doing anything, you can just let the invincibility rock
@benjihuynh29702 жыл бұрын
19:30 is an even better example of the invincibility
@chaselewis53722 жыл бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind is he let the invincibility rock so that the unparryable move wouldn't hit. Raida is unparryable in this game so if you meaty it vs Makoto in Tanden Renki she can literally do nothing. In this situation though delaying past the active frames gives a guaranteed punish.
@MrCactuar132 жыл бұрын
yup I've been seeing this super being used as a reversal option in the a-cho channel recently and I'm starting to believe in Tanden Renki supremacy
@benjihuynh29702 жыл бұрын
@@chaselewis5372 an excellent addition. 3rd strike is so deep
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
Glad you explained because that was a nasty ass parry regardless!!
@T.xvii.172 жыл бұрын
i love how ibuki and makoto are "rivals" in this game. they're both offense characters that use different methods. ibuki with high hit counts and makoto with just beefy hits.
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the whole game was great.
@HeirofDacia2 жыл бұрын
They are also rivals in the game's lore.
@noelbustos7647 ай бұрын
Marisa and Manon are the spiritual successors to this in 6. Here's hoping Makoto and ibuki show up in it also
@ValeFline2 жыл бұрын
JMCrofts: I have to win and force the opponent to switch to a good super. SA3 Makoto: *This is a good super.*
@AGuyWithEyeliner Жыл бұрын
I don't think makot has any bad supers, just some are better
@Jolynesimpnumber46 ай бұрын
@@AGuyWithEyelinerChun Li SA3
@TheRealOtatop2 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed, we eventually see Makoto in SF6. I love her design, and she looks so fun to play
@makoto70292 жыл бұрын
she is super fun !
@Ganmorg2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a high damage grappler like Makoto could be a total menace in SF6, which is good or bad depending on how you slice it
@Benxall2 жыл бұрын
Imgine pressing the parry button by accident and makoto dashing at you from the other side of the screen to punish you for all your health
@Reywolf24052 жыл бұрын
I love my fighting game characters to be irrationally mad furious
@joshlemagne2 жыл бұрын
At this point I'm convinced she must have been the demon of someone high up on the street fighter team. It's the only reason I can think that such a popular character got left out for so long.
@stillpaints Жыл бұрын
Parrying during Tanden Renki should charge the meter and extend the super a small amount.
@Link_IV2 жыл бұрын
I love how you always keep the videos informative for people who don't know the game very well. I love your content, one of the best and most chill fgc creators.
@turlocs48122 жыл бұрын
Banger comment
@reunionxsos75452 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how well explained his vids are. There's times where I'll watch and a question pops up in my head and it'll get answered it within the next minute. "Lemme tell you why this isn't viable..."
@presenceof2 жыл бұрын
He's revamped his format and I like it.
@cedricgiraud26792 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I don't play any vsfighting game, but I still does understand and enjoy jmcrofts videos.
@sandwidge26552 жыл бұрын
Epic comment
@protodevilin2 жыл бұрын
MAKOTO: Installs. JMCROFTS: Uninstalls.
@randomweeaboo2 жыл бұрын
19:28 you got hit there because the startup of tanden renki has invulnerable frames on startup. I used it there because you were doing a lot of meaties
@SAWmacaco2 жыл бұрын
The guy
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
@@SAWmacaco The guy indeed
@mrosskne Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTE LAD
@abelsanchez46964 ай бұрын
I thought that it had the property that Genei Jin has, where every button has "super" priority against the opponents.
@randomweeaboo4 ай бұрын
@@abelsanchez4696 no it does not. Only genei Jin has that property, no other install super in 3s has that property. It does make it so that you can only be at worst +2 on block, but that doesn't come up often
@2Eliishere2 жыл бұрын
I think there actually is a really good Japanese player who uses this super, I distinctly remember him winning a tournament out of no where with its crazy damage.
@PabloAvilaEstevez2 жыл бұрын
It's a player named Otouto! Including the exclamation point
@bon.92962 жыл бұрын
A lot of players use it casually. You might have seen KO use it.
@Moiez101 Жыл бұрын
@@PabloAvilaEstevez haha, his name literally means "younger brother" in Japanese.
@draga_4 ай бұрын
@@Moiez101what's funny about it dawg
@nooostop46642 жыл бұрын
2 decades old bro, two fricking decades later and it still holds up so good I love this game.
@UnpleasantLovepony2 жыл бұрын
Great video, you got me interested in Ibuki, man. She looks fun. I love how they were just pitching ideas for supers and came up with "Makoto, but angry"
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
This game is why I love seeing Makoto players. The really skilled ones display some of the most technical matches you’d ever see with a nice balance of offense and defense; especially defense because their parrying skills are so phenomenal!
@bageltime89832 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about the upload schedule,it's always a good day when you're able to get out a new vid or stream. Creating content is time consuming and difficult at times,but eventually people pull through. No matter how long it takes. Everyone still has their own lives going on. We'll be here for you every step of the way.
@JPVersus_2 жыл бұрын
See, that's great FGC content. The intro was short and packed with information that was useful for understanding and thoroughly enjoying the part with matches. Really really sick
"Tanden-what?" - every frieza main in DBFZ seeing this
@lanceocana90592 жыл бұрын
@@anzol4523 *proceeds to get their asses caved in*
@f1r3hunt3rz52 жыл бұрын
"You aren't dealing with the average Shotokan anymore..."
@bragior2 жыл бұрын
Kaio-what?
@RoundShades11 ай бұрын
Every one of these are fire
@bageltime89832 жыл бұрын
The more and more I study Q,the more I think that in the end,he could've had 3 really strong supers.But instead he got a shittier version of Makoto SA3. I desperately want Q back,the OG Q. G is cool,but I never fell in love as much with a character as I did with Q.
@wildwest18322 жыл бұрын
want em back? just play sf 3 hes still there
@bageltime89832 жыл бұрын
@@wildwest1832 Big surprise there.
@user-tzzglsstle585e38 Жыл бұрын
@@wildwest1832 I want Q against a multitude of characters
@BaldianOfIbelin5 ай бұрын
i mean If the theory that Q is G but with a deteriorated mind remains afloat as correct Q and not G should be the one to return to SF6 since it is SF6 is the first game that chronologically in the lore happens after SF3
@Luffy20082 жыл бұрын
Really apreciate you giving all that context about the matchup before the video, makes me enjoy the fights even more!
@RmnGnzlz4 ай бұрын
3:39 *Usain Bolt:* jmcrofts can you help me get better a running? *jmcrofts:* Have you tried going faster?
@TheRealBDouble2 жыл бұрын
Makoto is my favorite SFIII character. Her moveset is so brutal and hard hitting. It's awesome. And 13:42 was SICK. You countered the TR perfectly. Noice
@GlasgowZeus2 жыл бұрын
Makoto players never blocked in the first place, SA3 is nothing but a buff
@ByrneBaby2 жыл бұрын
To answer the question at the very very end: Yes. The people always want to see the urban legend SAs. They're like actual myths, they're not real until you see them in action.
@cockanimal48785 ай бұрын
Do not abbreviate super arts
@Tletna2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you put that on KZbin. I like seeing Makoto and I like seeing people losing to underestimated characters or moves.
@misfit13472 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used that super. It’s the round stealer. You either “live by the sword or die by the sword”
@RealGhostface-y9b4 ай бұрын
Live by the "ooOOOOH!" or die by the "ooOOOOH!"
@TinariKao8 ай бұрын
I'm not subscribed, but when you show up in my feed I watch it. Your videos explain things on a low enough level that I appreciate it. I played a little bit of Marvel vs Capcom, and went to college with a guy who lived close to General AKA and I went over one day. My god. Playing against a tournament level person humbled me, but the guy taught me a bit too. Showed me how to counter and parry and I got a tiny bit better. Watching you feels like him teaching me again.
@burnman872 жыл бұрын
20:18 the single greatest moment in jmcrofts session. Well worth the watch. Great video, J.
@T2Designgaming2 жыл бұрын
This format is interesting and different. The "intro" really set up the matches really well, and gave you something to look out for while watching. Good stuff.
@fidelj30252 жыл бұрын
just imagine Makoto is in SF6 having this as a level 2 super and with all the tech that SF6 has, she would be OP'd!
@genejas2 жыл бұрын
SA3: the preferred super of the unhinged
@KaibaBlanco2 жыл бұрын
From my experience using Makoto and SA3 1- take the game to a moment where the damage to the opponent has dropped to half a bar or a little less so that SA3 ends up eliminating the entire bar since it is an SA for victory 2- Think of the optimal combo to win in that little moment that Makoto turns into a unstoppable train... If you are good with the parry to respond to the possible counterattacks 3- Taunt as many times as possible that small damage buff can be added to the increased damage of the SA3
@CorbinsChickenCafe2 жыл бұрын
I love interesting mechanics like this in fighting games! Thanks for showing this and also really enjoyed the matches showing it off!
@Zenondikar2 жыл бұрын
Besides Genei-Jin 3s has some really awesome installs. My fave is cancelling her DP that does mad stun into this super and put em in the blender. Love your 3rd strike stuff JM, hope to see you play some CVS2 soon!
@LolaliciousSmiley2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting you to get slaughtered, but you adapted after just 2 matches. I love these deep dives coupled with match footage.
@LucDaMan42 жыл бұрын
20:18 awesome moment this is what we as fighting game players live for
@VBrancoPT2 жыл бұрын
Makoto, in the right hands, is a lethal weapon (most dangerous). p.s. jmcrofts, I'm VBrancoPT (MultiVersus). Gizmo/Taz team, I was the Taz player :) It was a honor for me to team up with someone as awesome as you. Keep up the good work :D
@alistermatthew94072 жыл бұрын
Recently subbed and love your vids. I like how you upload the games where you lose against low tier and lesser played stuff, and not just highlights of you stomping. PS: Makoto's punch at the end was mad active
@Shermansart2 жыл бұрын
I like to call this move “Roided Makoto”
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
Bwahahaha
@michaelpowell32042 жыл бұрын
At 10:33 it looks like Makoto's hit recovery is improved, she can almost punish on hit...
@GrandSyzygy Жыл бұрын
As a Makoto main, this made me so happy; that Makoto was saucy. I normally run S1 but I might need to see what's up with S3
@bulb99702 жыл бұрын
I never truly understood this super before. By the way she turns red I had the impression she could explode or something
@anonymousAJ2 жыл бұрын
All I figured out was you couldn't block or do EX and it didn't seem to open new combos
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
Woah you guys are weirding me out! Since i started playing fighting games back then in the arcades, damage and speed boosts were the things that i would look for at first when i didn't know what a install super did. If none of those seemed to be the case, i would see if there were new moves or if hou could cancel moves that you couldn't before
@mrosskne Жыл бұрын
She does explode, her fist through your chest
@SoapyBowl2 жыл бұрын
I freakin' love Makoto. She's not in SF6 tho... 😢
@helpkirbyhasagun_20472 жыл бұрын
not in SF6 yet* DLC is a possibility
@bageltime89832 жыл бұрын
@@helpkirbyhasagun_2047 Omg imagine a DLC season dedicated to 3s,Makoto,Dudley and Q come out and the world is back in balance.(Necro would be nice as well)
@thankfulgamer24052 жыл бұрын
Its capcom... 300 dollar dlc incoming
@helpkirbyhasagun_20472 жыл бұрын
@@bageltime8983 And then they add Thirteen Twelve but with actual combos and pressure and doesn’t have to be a hit and run parry god in order to win
@bageltime89832 жыл бұрын
@@helpkirbyhasagun_2047 That sounds hype as shit. I'd main him even if he was bad again.
@figureitout29732 жыл бұрын
I have never played third strike but this game looks years ahead of its time
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@fortidogi86205 ай бұрын
Play! On fightcade or in your local scene!
@OneDigitalSoul2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few of this guys vids in my algorithm recommends. He loves this game and his enthusiasm for it is infectious and pure. I love this game too and only recently started playing it for the first time on my MBP via RetroArch. Subscribed ♥
@SpaceTiger92 жыл бұрын
Love the 3S content. I've started dabbling with another buddy who has no experience and we're having a ton of fun just doing simple timing mixups and such. The game holds up really insanely well.
@trevordavidjones2 жыл бұрын
I used her second super when I first started playing Makoto, but eventually moved on to using Tanden Renki, pretty much exclusively. Once it comes out, it's pretty much a game ending move 😂😂😂
@sultanalshamsi62 жыл бұрын
Always loved Makoto , she remind me of Luffy with her second gear and jet punch😂
@downtownraw2676 Жыл бұрын
I always think of Kaioken when making that comparison
@juanbaez032 жыл бұрын
20:49 makoto: smashh!!
@squishgod90942 жыл бұрын
"Have I been figured out by Tanden Renki Makoto?" *proceeds to be fed the entire jar of sauce* I believe you have
@rc91452 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say Makoto’s voice reminds me of Luffy and funnily enough her actual voice actress is also named Makoto
@elcheshireilustracion93962 жыл бұрын
Don´t sweat JM, quality is always better than quantity.
@SDhotline2 жыл бұрын
In 3soe if you turn on the multiple supers and super into super cancel dip switches you can cancel SA1 into SA3 and get a juggle
@CyphersBasement2 жыл бұрын
If you hit them more than they hit you, you don't need to block.
@visionaeon2 жыл бұрын
Big 🧠 game
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
@@visionaeon true
@HeirofDacia2 жыл бұрын
Unless they hit you once... With a TOD.
@funnybonez16422 жыл бұрын
Makoto is my main when I play 3rd strike but I’m not even near at the level you have yours, dope keep up the good content
@Dookie54952 жыл бұрын
Man, I am hoping when they put Makoto in SF6. Also, weird that no SF3 character returned for the Base Roster.
@muffinmonkeys2 жыл бұрын
Casual Street Fighter fan, here. I'd say Sakura, and yeah to your point Juri, are higher up on the "the casuals know them" tier list than Makoto. IMO that is mostly because those two have been in more recent games. And yes, put Makoto in SF:VI
@monsterfanatic53446 ай бұрын
I love the animation for it more than anything tbh. She pulls a DBZ "scream at the top of your lungs to power up" moment and goes sicko mode. Its super simple but the way its animated and executed is great. You can really FEEL her getting fired up.
@INikeAir2 жыл бұрын
Yoooooooo I made the same you did after that first round! I cannot stress enough how much I love that you show videos not just of you winning. Your content really is on a thousand. Don’t get me wrong, I do love seeing you win as well. It’s just been so interesting I was too hyped watching this video. And that ending. Shheeeeeeeeresh
@GamersOff2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the higher quality and interesting topics a lot! thanks for the content
@AtHomeWithAGeek2 жыл бұрын
I like Makoto in SF4, haven't played her in SF3. But I will now.
@loganford39212 жыл бұрын
She's a rock solid tank of a character.
@JJMR30002 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the insight of this ultra. I never did really know how it works but now I can tell that red "mode" Makoto can be a big threat if u know how to use it properly. Damn, man she scary af.
@SteelRims10 ай бұрын
This, along with the Shin Shoryuken are my favorite Super Arts. They look really really PAINFUL when they hit. And they HIT HARD.
@Slappynipsy12 жыл бұрын
i'll say the same thing i did 20 years ago when i saw this super for the first time - if parrying in this super after the install regen'd the timer a bit it would be the best super in the game.
@VGZoodle2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for consistently putting out friendly, informative and engaging content, man!
@RandoBox2 жыл бұрын
19:29 - I frames. Tanden has all of them.
@andrewgotlost2 жыл бұрын
3rd Strike is my all time favorite vibe and animations of any SF game.
@Yuffie777 Жыл бұрын
Kneel before your master
@TomFooleryPlusR2 жыл бұрын
I dunno about Makoto, but for Ibuki I am a huge fan of SA2. Comically huge damage and 1 frame startup makes for a great, terrifying mixup tool as well as a quick but flashy super.
@allanturmaine54962 жыл бұрын
This match had it all. Drama, action, character growth. 11/10
@cooperelt12992 жыл бұрын
6:47 me when playing dbfz online 😂
@ArlenPierce2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoy this type of content from you more
@writofassistance2 жыл бұрын
Never played street figher. Never had an interest in playing street fighter. Don't know any of the characters of street fighter outside of the ones in MvC. But I love watching the street fighter content that you and Justin Wong put out. Almost makes me want to pick it up on fightcade (which I downloaded because of this channel lol)
@wcjerky5 ай бұрын
Always love that Makoto v Ryu pre-fight interaction.
@nathanielbeckford88996 ай бұрын
This takes pure skill, a player who doesn’t take the easy way out but hones his skills as a double edged blade, bravo
@LieseFury2 жыл бұрын
I use Seichusen Godanzuki, purely because I like the animation.
@DoodCT2 жыл бұрын
gotta love a video that answers the question in the title within the very first second
@Rustee92 жыл бұрын
The only fighting game I play is strive so I think this super will be great for me since I don't block anyways
@JaySityEnt2 ай бұрын
I started playing 3rd strike again recently and I’m using makoto for the first time. New fav character
@_Jay_Maker_2 жыл бұрын
I think this has decided it for me. I love Makoto and always wanted to get good with her, but the best-in-choice SA2 really put me off, mostly because the combos off of it were just so damn rad and did so much damage that they seemed basically necessary. SA3 seems way more in my wheelhouse.
@ctye852 жыл бұрын
SA3 is an absolutely terrible super and will lose you many matches. It's fun but there's a reason you basically never see it.
@peste45922 жыл бұрын
just use makoto super 1 if you have trouble with super 2, just gotta learn how to link it with her hayates
@RedLineOneGC2 жыл бұрын
I know its not necessarily your choice of who you fight, but i like the fact that ur highlighting unusual match ups or high level play of unusual charcaters like Twelve...it makes the videos a but more interesting then jus a "meta" match up
@jk8441002 жыл бұрын
One of the big issues is that there’s a bunch of hit grabs that can normally be blocked but can’t be parried. So Oro for example can just hit-grab into hit-grab over and over again and there’s nothing Makoto can do because she can’t block it and she can’t parry it.
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
Can't you use her Fukiage (dp) for those kikd of scenarios? I'm legit asking, i haven't tried it. Anyways, that would just be a skill issue hahahaha, you should not let your opponent put you in that kind of situation
@jk8441002 жыл бұрын
@@jestfullgremblim8002 no because her DP isn’t invincible (most DPs aren’t in 3s). Secondly, the skill issue is picking SA3 to begin with, it’s the second worst super in the game and if you pick it you’re asking to lose.
@jestfullgremblim80022 жыл бұрын
@@jk844100 hahahaha i see
@anonamos2252 жыл бұрын
Honestly love how you showcase these madlads lol
@billy6427 Жыл бұрын
That Last Punch as she was Standing across from you on wake up was Sneaky AF😁
@gatsuberserk42272 жыл бұрын
Man 3rd Strike is just so beatiful to watch. It will never get old.
@Limit54822 жыл бұрын
Vtrigger before vtrigger
@notimeforcreativenamesjust30342 жыл бұрын
5:54 mans got the music install
@Aflay12 жыл бұрын
20:19 That was an amazing interaction. That's a reason to install the game. 20:50 WHAT IS THAT FIST MADE OF FIRE OR SOMETHING?? MEATIEST HITBOX IN HISTORY.
@ReikuYin2 жыл бұрын
Glad for the high-quality stuff. I always prefer effort over just numbers. Also to answer the question of why is the bar long. Could you IMAGINE the terror she would cause if she had short bar like Yun or Yang? She can kill in two confirms.
@roguebanshee2 жыл бұрын
"Normally a super that would make it so you can't block, that would be a death sentence" Bang Shishigami laughs at such trivial obstacles.
@quinndepatten4442 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this super is beautifully designed imo. That conversion off the grab at like 65% into death was crazy. There's a comment that you can use it to parry. That was really cool as well. The weaknesses seem more like a way to direct the player on how to use it. Strong tools tend to be versatile and splash able, but I actually dislike that ideal of design. It makes those tools overcentralizing and leads to staleness.
@subterraneanretrogames5562 жыл бұрын
Quality over quantity. What a concept!
@footlonghawk39602 жыл бұрын
Man this fight had some great moments I'm so happy I got to watch this
@muddlewait88442 жыл бұрын
The title of this vid is fantastic
@philipbrackett4432 жыл бұрын
5:34 This is why Third Strike will always be the king of fighting games for me
@Geheimnis-c2e Жыл бұрын
Makoto normally: *one-touch kill* Makoto enjoyers who use Tanden Renki: "I am strike invincible."
@starlow71932 жыл бұрын
So far there's been only one player that kind of make SA3 makoto work and that's Otouto, 3rd strike channel has uploaded some matches of him in japanese arcades, and he's good, but theres not too much footage of him, probably due to SA3's unforgiving nature, or maybe he doesn't play 24/7 idk.
@neonshadow50052 ай бұрын
Your opponent really deserved that win. He seriously adapted there.
@BronzeLincolns812 жыл бұрын
not being able to block seems like a good reason I never knew this super existed until today.
@shinkuu072 жыл бұрын
Moves take like 40% more damage in that mode but the inability to block is crazy
@jaimereupert42472 жыл бұрын
We need a game that is based off of Street Fighter Alpha 3's World Tour Mode, where you take a fighter (either created, customized or regular) and take them through stages in order to gain levels and new abilities which you can then save and use in other modes.