The MOST COMPLICATED Character in Street Fighter!?

[@terrancecook3357]

I remember using him in ranked back in vanilla and getting compliments. not that I'm anything more than an average Gen player, I think people were glad to see a character other than Sagat, Ryu or Ken.

[@NewSenserapper]

Even nowadays I love getting.washed by something other than Ken or Ryu. Oh and G, I don't see him all the time but God I hate fighting him

[@danielwilliams4321]

Akuma too. Everyone plays akuma now

[@Ramsey276one]

69 likes confirmed Also RELATABLE XD

[@biglex42]

I got the same treatment using Fei on ranked back then and then Gen in Super.

[@anjoLas]

U remember? Why the hell don't u play anymore?!

[@JiBbo]

Good games and thanks for having me! I'm so happy for your success with fighting games and it inspires me to be a better content creator 👍

[@penismightier9278]

Love to see a good Gen.

[@k0nk0n]

That float lol

[@dectilon]

I picked up Gen because of Xian. It's such a fun character despite seeming a bit dry on the surface. You're always doing something, and stance-switch combos are fun to do even if most of them are unnecessary.

[@AnhDonoi]

Xian put that old man on the map

[@tehjargonz0r]

@@AnhDonoi right after he won evo that year i remember seeing so many gen players online lol

[@jmp868]

Same man ever since I saw Xian play him so masterfully I mained him. Loved the double stance combos you could pull off by switching from one stance to another. He was fun as hell to play 😎

[@BLUEAQUATIC2020]

I use guy sadly ..... bro is GONE😢

[@RetroKid]

Jibbo and Sabre were considered "specialists" back then. They even had a specialist tourney just to highlight all the unique characters that normally didn't place in tourneys.

[@dmtmediabrothers]

Yeb too

[@ally3417]

One thing about the "Passionate players" is that i see often people saying "oh imagine how they would be with a top tier character" but to me it's their sheer motivation in extracting the best of the shit character (like pachikasu with sean on 3 strike, love him) that drives them to become so good, if they suddenly started playing a top tier that kind of motivation probably would not be there and they would be just decent at best.

[@PetterNe]

Lol at “and they would be just decent”. I agree with some of your comment but that part is way off.

[@ally3417]

@@PetterNe It was exageration yes, i did not mean to disrespect these players, i just tried to mean that they try harder playing the character they enjoy.

[@michaelpowell3204]

This is why I

[@thecrimsonfuckeralucardlor5087]

It's not that gen is bad he just has a high skill barrier which makes people not have the confidence to try and get better with him, this happens in a lot of other games too. The best characters often take the most skill to master and have the highest payoff if you're willing to put time and effort into getting better with them. It's because they often have great mix ups but are very technical thus require more skill and practice to play at the highest level which has more potential than more basic easy to use characters with less options available.

[@ThePersonWhoAsked69420]

@@michaelpowell3204I

[@alexc2194]

That combo at 14:00 was actual insanity, didn't expect to see an actual match, but it was great! Great video man.

[@AlexTheDinosaur951]

The tech explanation with the pianoing and the sliding was absolutely ace, love the thoroughness of the content and the obvious joy for the game in every bit of it🔥

[@Stickyz]

What does ace mean

[@Reelix789]

Haven't played around with SF4 much, but Decapre required some similar tricks

[@andersolson44]

@@Stickyz Ace is a substitute for #1 when playing with cards, so he was saying that it was the best

[@Choom89]

That's why Gen is the best, true stances!😄 His jump and walk speed are also quite different and used to be even more so, they nerfed his jump quite a bit over time. Stance change takes 1 frame where you cannot block :( Another trick for MK > Hands that is.. depressing is after people really started passing around "plink" techniques it was discovered Gen can just.. basically mash MK + MP + HP and get hands (FADC too) super easy. All those hours practicing piano and people can just roll their face on the buttons T.T

[@copilots3159]

There are so many instances of high skill execution just getting beaten out by face rolling across the inputs.

[@TheOnlyTiminator]

Loving the S4 content. The nostalgia is strong

[@axeoseilez3207]

Mad respect to gen players. That stance change looks rough. But the variety of movesets definitely makes gen look fun.

[@RPGSulSide]

Its really not as bad once you get the muscle in, just tap 3-p/3-k immediately after you hit the normal you want to stance-dance from and continue linking. It is like playing two characters but the execution for most combos that were relevant and switching from a stance to the other were'nt the most difficult. Focus cancelling from hands into another combo was the toughest for me.

[@dmtmediabrothers]

I feel c viper is a harder character. This is cap

[@plsiwannabeHyper]

I remember my dad maining Gen in 4. In fact he did pretty well with him. Looking back on it, and also watching this, my dad was kinda gaming

[@yahboyx]

What was your dads gametag ? Was he known?

[@plsiwannabeHyper]

@@yahboyx nah not really ahahaha. He just played online ranked sometimes. And one of the characters he performed best with was Gen. Which as a main character, was pretty impressive.

[@yahboyx]

@@plsiwannabeHyper Jaja I had a homie called danceswithnoobs and he also had a son . Some Mexican guy but he was super cool man .

[@ajshiro3957]

I remember discovering Gen's ways in SF4 during the trials. I never knew you could combo into another stance. The stances were always cool, but Crane stance intimidated me.

[@ChoseDeath]

Crane stance STILL scares me, lol.

[@penismightier9278]

I mostly used it as a way to screw with my opponent. Use Mantis stance first round, switch to Crane at the beginning of second and if there's a third switch back. I got an embarrassing amount of wins by just making it more difficult to learn how I played.

[@Jellyfishh_]

Hands down my fav SF4 character. He's difficult but has everything I like in a fg character. To this day I don't think I've found a character in any other game that clicked as well as Gen did.

[@dumamihd]

So happy to see you covering my favorite 2d fighting main 🙏🏼🙏🏼 he needs the love, underrated and hard, especially stance switch parry stuff!

[@dumamihd]

My main in usiv steam, I think I got to rank 30 with him and a ton of people were genuinely happy to play against the character, I feel like that rank was a lot bc of matchup familiarity

[@MaxClyde]

Thanks for showing the inputs on camera and explaining - I'm a very casual fighting game player who just plays Ryu and my friend plays Ken but I find all this stuff interesting

[@c.s.hayden3022]

I used to love Lei in Tekken 3. He had the most unpredictable moves because he could toggle back and forth between different animal stances and catch the most experienced players with a wide range of combos and follow ups.

[@dkhepra2842]

Any fighting game content from jmcrofts is always entertaining to watch.

[@Rainaldo991]

I came across your channel a couple years ago with DBFZ and i liked your proficiency with 18 and crilin, then i lost your for some times, just watching aome FGC history content now and then. But in these days i am longing for your content on street fighter. I am really in love with your SF3 and SF4 contents related.

[@ohtheforlanity3205]

Gen is one of the most interesting characters in the SF universe. Watching high-level Gen play is awesome

[@robk1595]

I haven't played Street Fighter since 2 on Suoer Nintendo. I've been watching your videos the last few months and I think I am going to pick up 6 if it is good. Your enthusiasm is infectious. Thank you for sharing your passion for fighting games

[@Ramsey276one]

AKA Why I add stances to my MK11 Variation AI Battles Geras does Big Fist Liu Kang does Stance REPEAT A DOZEN TIMES XD

[@PunishedHoss]

Always love these vids. Your breakdowns of lesser known characters, along with knowledge of the old school meta is super interesting. Best channel for this kinda content, keep it up!

[@Capt.Burakuman]

SF4 was my debut into competitive fighting, then my first match ever was against DAMDAI.... well i like watching now.

[@Speedracer6]

man, i remember watching jibbo with gen, seeing his gen comboes were always hype. him and smug dudley play their chars was a joy to see.

[@Fighterfan69]

Gen is my favorite character in the series. SFA2 I played him. We need another character similar to him Zeku was a character I enjoyed in SF5. Hopefully ,they bring a dual-stance character like Gen or Zeku. I think Jamie has a second stance of sort after he drinks 4 times. Seems like some of his moves are different but nothing like Gen or Zeku.

[@biglex42]

Gotta also show love to YEB who was also one of the first top level Gens from back there. Jibbo was the first I saw play a Japanese player, DAIGO, of all people and use Gen. Jibbo was also nasty in SFxT.

[@EmberGyaru]

AutoMattock was really entertaining ^_^ Glad you had some matches with him.

[@Toelishness]

This is so much more interesting to watch than anything that has come out of SF5 imo.

[@Clemz.]

@jmcrofts You can do Gen's standing MK xx Heavy Hands with the piano method. I usually use my thumb and index finger to hit MK and LP at the same time and then continue on with the rest of the piano method. (MK+LP, HP, MP, LP, HP) You still get the 5 inputs required for hands and the MK takes priority over the LP. I was a Honda main in SF4 and this was the method that I used for CR.MK xx Hands

[@justingoers]

JM I always love your deep dives on specific topics. Thank you!!!!!!

[@drattyg8099]

I'm not a Gen player, but the input I use for strong into heavy hands is mp, hp, mp, lp, hp. And then one of his most useful combos is st mp linked into the hp, mk target combo cancelled into heavy hands.

[@AlcoholidayHHH]

I was a heavy Gen player back in SFA3. I'm not sure how his moves transferred over from pixel, but Gen's standing HK (Crane) was an incredibly strong counter move, same with FP. It seemed to take a lot of priority, same with Mantis Rising Kick, and if you could time it out to 8, it was a guaranteed knock down, though I could never get the timing right to switch combo into the Crane head stomp super. But my favorite move was the Mantis finger punch super, akin to the 5 point exploding heart death punch from Kill Bill. I didn't see it mentioned here for SF4, but it was great seeing the countdown timer tick away at their life bar. Sometimes people wouldn't even notice and they would just die suddenly on the opposite side of the screen, wondering what happened.

[@tristancampbell4941]

I always made the joke 1st playing him that this dude was from 'Da _actual_ Streets Throwing up "Gen" Signs, reppin' his set, mainly because I am so trash at SF4, I just randomly switch stances after every punch😂.

[@mediumchungus9662]

It's Gen! From Streets!

[@robeness247]

Stance characters are very interesting, indeed.

[@DreamMorpheus42]

Meh. I'd rather have 1 good character then have two mediocre ones.

[@sperklebonge8273]

@@DreamMorpheus42 id rather an interesting ok character then a good boring character

[@AnhDonoi]

@@DreamMorpheus42 meh. I'd rather have one mediocre character then two good characters

[@meganinten0078]

I agree. My favorite is Xiao Lon from KOF MI Regulation A That game is underrated

[@coreygolphenee9633]

Especially in a game with generic canceling

[@wilsonaguiar4646]

My favorite SF character. He is one of my mains in SF Alpha. Never got into SF4 because i just couldn't deal with the graphics so not sure how much similar he is but i love playing him.

[@philliplamb2761]

The hell is wrong with u 😐

[@xLatinAssazzin]

Can We Just Appreciate How Hard He Does to Make Us Enjoy!

[@KarmasAB123]

"Gen is so complex!" Tekken/Soul Calibur fans: "Lol."

[@kevingriffith6011]

5:15 I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to come up with this tech, for me it was for SF5 Blanka of all characters! The *only* option blanka has off of crouching medium kick that doesn't require charge and won't whiff is EX Electricity, and in SF5 you NEED a good hit confirm off of crouching medium kick or you just don't have neutral. Even after all this time, it's still a very physically uncomfortable tech to execute, too.

[@kyote1r77]

I used to be good with Gen in the old Alpha series, been years since i played him. Nice to see a vid on him

[@meganinten0078]

I recommend watching Xiao Lon's gameplay. She is from KOF Maximum Impact Regulation A And she has an unique gameplay because she has *three fighting stances* where she can change during the match. Also, her special moves were good and her movility was excellent (she has the fastest teleport in the game) Xiao Lon was top 3 in the tier list, she is not easy to master but when you learn how to play as her, you will have a great time.

[@codyxvasco592]

Gen, to me, represents an important part of the fighting game journey. The: "whoa i want to do THAT." Picking a few things like, waterfall kicks, or the target combo into hands, or super into ultra. Letting these things make you go "alright, i may not learn the rest of the character, but I want to do that!" Then you end up learning more. Anyone else do this with other characters?

[@dankewolfie2794]

I've never played a fighting game seriously, I wouldn't even know where to start, what with footsies, fuzzys and meatys its all a bit intimidating, and I dont think streetfighter would be the game I choose to play, but I've really been enjoying your content!

[@i.ftekhar]

TBh most of that stuff comes as you play ranked and have to adapt to people’s strategies. When you start off, all you rly need are some good pokes and anti airs, and a bnb combo. The rest will sink in the more you play

[@Ramsey276one]

3:39 walks forward in Mantis… Walks backwards in Crane…

[@gumter.]

I was just thinking about this character today and you make a video about him

[@michaelwilliams369]

I remember first playing as Gen in the Street Fighter Alpha series back in the 90s.

[@SaiKisaragi]

I always liked old masters, and I kinda just picked up Gen and mained him in Alpha 2 and in SFIV. Gen is the king of pokes and confusing crossup divekicks. I love it. I'm not good at him at all, but I still love him :D

[@penismightier9278]

He's a blast to use. Shame I suck with him.

[@RandomTeen07]

I hated playing against this guy bruh- hes so good. Gen players are incredibly crazy

[@The_Bi-polar_Express]

Xian has immortalized Gen.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

Getting really good with a supposedly awful character is hilarious =D I love that, because most people are like 'how the f'k do I fight this?' They don't prepare for such rare opponents, because the chances of being up against one is so low.

[@Felipera_]

Seeing Gen and Ryu on the screen at the same time makes me nostalgic

[@josephrumolo9010]

I remember Tokido crushing it with Gen, maybe i'm mis-remembering

[@coreygolphenee9633]

Xian was the only good Gen, tokido mostly played ken and Sagat AFAIK

[@marsrobotic6940]

Really entertaining video. Auto was playing hella sweaty lol

[@dciceberg9224]

''Most complicated character in street fighter'': has two stances Tekken players: laughs in Hwoarang Lei mains dying in the distance

[@louisconnors8616]

My boi. I miss you sweet prince

[@gracias86]

I have soft spot for USF 4, the game that introduces me to watch FG tournament. 10 years later this game still looking so good regardless of the release of SF6

[@AMurder0fCrows]

Gen was my main from vanilla until 2012. And I love Mario kick.

[@ThePivotaddict]

did our golden boy throw in a censor @13:04 ? bless his pure heart

[@straightupanarg6226]

Gen started in SFA3 (after SF1, of course). Back then, literally _nobody_ played Gen, and I'm not even sure what a top-tier Gen would look like. Another thing about Gen were _chain combos,_ which few other characters had back then (only Guy and Cody I think.) He could chain off his overhead, which was neat.

[@NickTheRedFox]

One of my greatest memories of playing Gen was pulling off a 80%~ combo with him. It required the super meter and ultra meter, where you did the super move where he dashes forward, then switch stances so you can do the ultra which is an anti air. The super barely lifts the target up in the air, but it had to be frame perfect. There was definitely a little more to the combo than what I said, but man does it hype you up when you execute it!

[@BrainGeniusAcademy]

This is the stance _/_/

[@ViperNakajima]

Hell yea, this my guy. Really hope he comes back, dead or not. Absolute badass and my favorite in all of SF.

[@neah2k11]

I remember doing off the wall kick into mantis super into crane ultra just playing random characters with friends and the group I was hanging with went wild

[@TallSilentGuy]

It's like Gen is a pre-cursor to Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and Mortal Kombat Deception.

[@81carlos]

I forgot about the Mario looking background character in the back ground during the T.Hawk vs Gen battle

[@BBrecht]

People who weren't into Street Fighter back then should google some of Xian's matches with Gen - he made it to the highest levels of competition with a super unorthodox and execution-heavy character!

[@KevinGeaslin]

I've loved Gen's characters since SF1, I even bought the SOTA figure but yeah I couldn't use him very well except for X-ism in Alpha 3. The simplified version had less options but man it was easier to use him. I didn't have as many problems with Zeku!

[@TrueClipsDen]

Gen is so difficult to play but I gotta say I think viper is a bit more difficult. Messing up one jump cancel can end so terribly and the execution of her advanced stuff is crazy but she also has crazy utility like meterless fadc combos

[@coreygolphenee9633]

Viper has get off me options that made her feel extra cheap in neutral though compared to gen, gen really sucks if you knock him down but you do probably punish viper way harder if they mess stuff up, but the cieling is way higher for gen, viper worked online gen didn't

[@Brokout]

I’d love to see more SF4 content, this game is so entertaining due to it’s depth.

[@watcheverything99]

Gen is awesome! Picked him up in Alpha 2!

[@fierysmile2929]

I love Gen. Complicated characters always used to put me off, but Gen's just built different.

[@gavinr4214]

SF4 was my first fighting game. A thousand hours later I managed a B with my beloved Gen. Couldn't wait till SF5, then it came out with no Gen... nothing feels the same. I have think about my moves instead of just doing them. Oh well atleast he'll definitely be in SF6 as dlc, yeah definitely, this time.

[@JPVersus_]

How do you hit that combo @ 14:07 in online SF4?! That's bonkers

[@quickcar5255]

After a focus you get a lot of time to input your combo making it a lot easier.

[@floofzykitty5072]

One of the reasons Japan has a lot of weird "one-tricks" for even low tier characters is that there isn't much money in Japanese eSports due to the country's gambling laws which consider playing in a tournament for a prize pool gambling for money. This means that basically every Japanese eSports player has to do it for the passion and prestige because you can only make a career from competitive gaming in Japan from sponsorships and joining an eSports team.

[@Ganmorg]

While Chun’s SFVI Stance is a fair bit different from Gen’s it’s cool that she has one as a kind of allusion to her master. I think it’s neat

[@alexmagneiplays4555]

My question has always been: if a character has multiple attacks that do the same thing, why would you use any other than the one with the least startup and end frames? Uppercuts for example, or pokes. Seems like 75% of a typical fighting game's moveset is just there for variety and don't have much use outside of looking flashy.

[@whitead25]

Gen is a highly technical character. I've been using him for years whenever I do play Street fighter 4. My roommate before he was murdered mained Gen so I learned Gen as a pocket character to counter him. You really have to think on your feet to use Gen.

[@Bluezexmas]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@karthusjack6857]

Aaah gen. The one character that i learned to play Exclusively, to beat my older brother in alpha 3.

[@crazyfingers316]

I mained Gen back in the day, liked him better in IV than in the Alpha series for some reason.

[@harriyama]

Hey, you're my favourite FGC streamer! I'd love to see more umvc3 content! Or even some usf4 dhalsim! Liked all your videos and subscribed!

[@Bodied]

Way more content like this man. Usf4 matches and characters!! Let's do viper and fuerte! Get latif on here, he loves his community! Or Abel with strider as the player

[@mrzaragoza9369]

He was my main in Alpha 2 Gold , man i would go crazy if they added him to SF6.

[@gardevoirdude7493]

14:06 SICK combo!

[@PunishedHoss]

Aayy and AutoMattock is in the vid too He does awesome stuff Hope he makes more content

[@ozziemac8149]

I loved playing gen online so much fun to use

[@duhsbo]

I really like that you don't just focus on one game.

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

I'm glad he doesn't.

[@DETHTWUKTAUR]

I like these videos ... i would play you for sure - reminds me of playing Alpha 3 back in the day

[@wcxd]

Nice handcam tech !

[@SwayNoir]

Xian put this Gen on this map and vice versa :D

[@TheCJRhodes]

this map put gen on xian?

[@GeneralGlockasiah]

The new SF6 character Jamie is Gen, Yun/Yang, and Elena wrapped in one.

[@ThAGHOSTRIDER229]

I mained Gen all through out SFIV. And it’s crazy because of how indeed high his difficulty is… but I could not play anyone else lmao except for gen

[@bes03c]

Those were some great matches.

[@PetterNe]

By far my favorite character not only in SF but in ALL fighting game. Forget about Akuma - this is the true master of fists. If Gen is not in SFVI I won’t be getting it.

[@Kenjionigod]

I just found Gen interesting, and my friend couldn't understand how I was able to play him on pad

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

Mash characters are hard enough on pad, But their other moves are easy enough to make up for it, Gen's slap is important to his move set and his other moves are difficult

[@knightyknight4837]

Gen and Ibuki were my two mains in 4. Made a lot of people upset

[@brotherhoodguardian]

It’d probably never happen but I’d love to see him play the inuyasha fighting game

[@SMSELWA]

I got hit by his wack infinite in ranked once, from that point on every time i played against a gen i got flashbacks. its terrifying.

[@yahboyx]

Who remembers the Xbox gen “danceswithnoobs” that was my homie ! Took me under his wing back in 2013 ! Dope ass dude , Mexican cholo from Cali! Aye dances with noobs if you are in the comment section ! It’s me Broker!

[@jaya_surya_a5118]

Wait who's playing that old..till now

[@DamageXcaling]

You can p-link cr mk+lp then piano input the hand slaps