Joan Crawford Makeup + Life Story | The TRUTH Behind Mommie Dearest

[@maureenhansen8321]

Storyline, which you do so extremely well!!! Wow so many men, so many twists, turns, I can’t even keep straight, let alone imagine living it. I find it rather heartwarming that Bette Davis, her arch enemy, even defended her in the end.❤️

[@misslady5123]

I was 11 when I watched Faye Dunaway play Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest and loved that movie. I love that you chose her to talk about. Keep it coming.

[@megcormack681]

Yay! A new beauty biography- my favorite series on KZbin! Great job, Joan Crawford what an amazing life!

[@AshleyAye]

Aww thank you Meg!! 🥰

[@mikel3363]

Aside: Joan was the #1 Box Office Star of 1930. Enjoyed your video, Ashley ~*

[@laytheresa9579]

I love all of your beauty biographies! I do my makeup along with you when i get ready in the mornings and i find your voice and personality so soothing. Its almost like i'm getting ready with an older sister or a really good friend. 💕 I'd love to see a video about Julie Andrews, Maria Callas, or even Tura Satana!

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you so much! 🥰🥰

[@jones9221]

This video, I stumbled upon and love it. The way you do her biography and her makeup. Very wise idea. I would love you to do Tura Santana also. Thank you.

[@1Devin4andAhalfDevonsNaDog]

it never leaves you when the parents compare the kids. my dad compared all three of us and said the middle one was the best of him and my mom. rip dad but i’ll never forget that but i do forgive him.

[@myreasonforinsanity-trista1906]

Soooo I used the be obsessed over Mommie Dearest and scared to death of wire hangers because of it 😳 and when my Mama would take me to the store and not get me any candy, I would call her Mommie Dearest and she would get so mad at me 😂😂

[@AshleyAye]

LOL OMG TRISTA 😂 it’s not funny that it scared you but calling your mom mommie dearest over candy 😂😂😂

[@myreasonforinsanity-trista1906]

😂😂 I called her earlier and when she answered I said “Hello Mommie Dearest” and she hung up on me instantly 😳😂

[@SWSimpson]

I called my mom Mommie Dearest once. She wasn't bothered because she knew I LOVED Joan, and I adore my Mom. My maternal Grandmother was a fan of Joan Crawford - she loved her. So, I asked her what she thought of Bette Davis, and she made a face and said, "She's a Slob!" Bette was still alive at that time. My friend asked her if she liked Kate Hepburn, and Grandma said, "She looks like a horse!" lol I don't have wire hangers in my house, because i hang all my pants and dress shirts and thicker hangers w/fuzzy material on them hold the clothes on them better.

[@ceecee7879]

Another thorough, fascinating BB! Loved the final look too ❤️

[@justines9233]

Yay! So happy to see a new Beauty Biography episode. So good!

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you!

[@woah5326]

I don't think it's difficult to believe it all that an abuser would only abuse her to oldest and not the youngest I also don't think it's difficult to believe Christina's accounts as an abuse victim myself it actually sounds very real very genuine and I hope that people stopped discrediting christina because Joan was a famous actress

[@min_blogs28landing32]

Right, that woman was crazy and an abuser

[@Chris-tg3qy]

I agree with you. For example, the first born of a young or inexperienced/unstable mother will have a different parenting experience than children born years later to the same mother who has possibly grown and whose life has become more stable. Parenting experiences can definitely be different. Also, abusive parents rarely perpetuate their abuse in front of other adults.

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you for sharing this perspective. I regret that my words came across as a defense. My intention was only that I can’t say for sure what happened behind closed doors. However with time and space from when I made this video I will say that now with the perspective of having a second child I do see how much I’ve grown as a parent so although I could never harm either of my children, it does give some clarity to how Joan could have certainly changed from when she had her first child. I’m sorry you went through abuse. ❤️ thank you again for sharing.

[@shannon897]

I agree that parents can isolate and abuse one child. I would still think, that despite the age gap, the twins would have observed/noticed something as they got older. Maybe they would have been able to still say that they saw Joan in a different way, but be honest about Christina being treated differently. Also, if Joan was such an abusive drunk and got worse as she got older, wouldn’t the twins have experienced at least some of the abuse? I just finished reading the book and am curious if anyone else has? I felt that Christina was rather hard to please herself and that she was rather conceited. She talks constantly about how perfect, smart, beautiful, talented and resilient she is. Idk who really brags about how perfect and adorable they were as a young child? Weird. Also, while the experiences that happen in the book certainly can and do happen, I could embellish my childhood experience as well. I have my masters degree in social work and have a background in therapy and mental health and could use a lot of that background info to guide the way I could portray the other characters in my book. Just because someone sees a resemblance to their own childhood doesn’t make Christina’s account true….always enjoy a good conversation about the subject tho! Nothing wrong with ppl having different opinions; we could all be “right.”

[@cathychase663]

agree and as an educator children are to be believed.

[@sprintbass]

I would say above all she was a model for many woman. In both acting and her work with Pepsi, she made an incredible life journey for herself. So many movies i remember my grandmother loved Joan Crawford... rain..Mildred Pierce...autum leaves.. i think i have them all somewhere.

[@maxipazz8214]

You forget that the twins were way younger than Christina and wouldn’t have known about the abuse

[@somethingclever8916]

most of the outrageous abuse scenes in the movie didn't even happen in the book

[@gloriamontgomery6900]

Yes. And some abusers will single out one child for abuse and not others

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

​@@somethingclever8916 true, the book was much worse.

[@Hercules41]

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[@nikkib473]

​@@virginiaschaefer9693no the movie was much worse.

[@rkomgm3932]

This is amazing! You even speak without reading …you really have done your research Thank you 🙏

[@omahaw1728]

Shirley MacLaine's daughter Sasha wrote a book about her. Bettye Davis's daughter is an evangelist who claims that her mother was a controller and caused trouble so I believe that Christina was telling the truth about Joan. I think she was nuts like most of the actors were.

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

There's were some witnesses to Joan's abuse of Christina and Christopher, but they chose to remain silent.

[@gerimorrison9322]

This was so interesting. Mommy Dearest was so popular when I was younger. Makes you wonder who to believe.

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you Geri! It really is difficult to tell now, I do hate that Joan was not alive to defend herself

[@jacksonwong1039]

One must watch Doctor Phil’s thesis on Christina Crawford calling her a narcissist.

[@brendamyers6320]

abuse back then was kept quite.. I believe it--

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Yep. Hidden behind the glamour.

[@karincope3019]

My fav uploads of yours ❤️❤️

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you Karin! 🥰

[@Be12397]

This was so well done! Thank you! 💖

[@antiegonz6007]

I wish there would b a Netflix show debunking Mommy Dearest. There is a lot of evidence that proves Christina lied and she has made a nice living off of it.

[@beatriceboom8945]

Loved this video. I do have some comments, however. Some people, including Christina's godmother, I believe named Helen Hayes, did personally witness abusive behavior of Joan toward Christina and Christopher. Cheryl Crane, Lana Turner's daughter, who went to school with Christina, said on Phil Donahue that Lana said that she and other actors were aware of Joan's abusing Christina and Chris. An estate sale from a former household employee of JC included a note containing instructions to tie Chris down at night, typed by JC. One of the neighbors saw Chris tied up in bed. Also, when Joan tried to legitimately adopt children, she was turned down by the state. Appears they didn't deem her fit. The "twins" JC adopted from human trafficker Georgia Tan, were probably not even related at all, as GT would regularly falsify birth certificates. Many details of Christina's book can be verified if one chooses to investigate. Christina says JC's husband, Philip Terry, saw Christina tied up in the shower and that JC instructed him to spank Christina with a hairbrush as discipline. I think he was alive when the book was published, and he never denied it. JC's household employment agency stopped sending her help because all the workers would eventually quit due to her outbursts. Keenan Wyn's son, Van Johnson's stepson, wrote in his memoir about cruel treatment he and his mother witnessed by JC toward Christina at a birthday party. Mrs. Chadwick from Chadwick School heard JC being verbally abusive to Christina on the phone. Christina says JC called an officer to the house to take her to juvenile hall after JC attacked her,leaving her with a black eye. JC showed obvious favoritism amongst her children, even with her beloved "twins." One "twin" received ALL of JC's personal property; the other a miserly trust fund. I believe the secretary who worked for JC for 50 years received a payout in the will, as well. Yeah, the same one who never (coincidentally) witnessed any abuse. Notwithstanding, Christina mentions that a lot of the abuse occurred as "night raids," at an hour when the secretary wouldn't be working. According to Christina, one secretary physically intervened and stopped JC from choking Christina, shouting, "Stop, Joan, you're gonna kill her." JC's longtime makeup artist noted Jc's alcoholism, lamenting, "She never should have been allowed to adopt those kids." (Well, she legally wasn't. ) It is reported that the nuns from Jc's Catholic school were physically abusive toward her, beating her in the head with a cane, among other punishments. This was not uncommon in parochial schools at this time. JC could very well have been acting out the abuse done to her. One of the "twins" described her mother as "firm," but that JC mellowed in later years. Christina told Larry King that she saw JC hit the "twins," too. They were both alive when this was said, and they never disputed it. Christina also told LK that Chris received worse abuse than she did. If Christina is trying to sell a fake abuse story for attention or money, why would she say that?

[@TheRetroWoman80]

When I read it several years ago I immediately believed. Denial and dismissiveness is real on this planet. People love fantasy instead to soothe their minds. I'd rather honesty, even if it is ghastly.

[@beatriceboom8945]

@@TheRetroWoman80 You are so correct! I appreciate and agree with your input 👍.

[@kristopherwilhite]

Thank you for that summary of people backing up Christina's account. I too believe the book and people certainly witnessed things. The movie was god-awful, distorted, fictionalized and not historically accurate. Christina Crawford hates the film.

[@beatriceboom8945]

@Kristopher Wilhite Thank you so much for the feedback. I greatly appreciate it. You are correct that people certainly did see things. 👍

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

Thank you for all this information, it backs up Christina's book, which is true.

[@MWah747]

wow! you know how to completely transform yourself into a woman from that era. So gorgeous!

[@JudelovesRiver12]

After I heard that Faye Dunaway exaggerated her depiction of Joan, I looked for this video because I knew there had to be more to the woman. I wish the movie was more accurate so we could get some kind of actual idea how she was, but it’s a movie and it’s purpose is to captivate and shock people.

[@haintedhouse2990]

the movie took on a life of it's own thanks to Faye Dunaway's over-the-top trainwreck of a performance. sorry but she's an unintentional laugh riot chewing up the scenery like a mad woman - hilarious.

[@raquellemayorga1842]

Why doesn't Christina Crawford change her last name ? Keeping the last name keeps her associated with Joan Crawford who she says abused her .

[@dougmedia1]

I think she wants to capitalize on her famous last name.

[@zacharylewis2802]

At least with Christina Crawford, there’s at least a few people who did corroborate her claims. Meanwhile, not one person can be found supporting BD Hyman’s claims about Bette Davis.

[@maddywisely7348]

I love your story telling voice! It’s so clear

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you! 🥰🥰

[@oxfordstyle5807]

Yay, my favourite KZbin videos!

[@stephaniejoles4043]

Joan, always the movie star, would leave the light on in cars as the driver was driving away so her fans could see her….

[@AshleyAye]

She truly did love her fans!!

[@greenbeans575]

19:55 "Joan's alcoholisn severely impacted her ability to parent." Excellent point and one that Christina and Christopher would agree with you on. (Mommy's drunken tirades were what was responsible for the abuse)

[@celladora31]

Christina was so rude to Elvis Presley that he physically threw her out of his house.

[@korieshannon9645]

Where did you hear this?

[@celladora31]

@@korieshannon9645 oh my goodness. I'll try to locate the book or source. I believe it was when she was working in a film of his. I'll get back to ya.

[@celladora31]

@@korieshannon9645 "Living the Rock'N'Roll Dream: The Adventures of Buzz Cason" A simple Elvis Presley Christina Crawford search will get you there.

[@robinalexander8429]

Children raised in the same home can have very different ideas and perceptions of what their families were like..for instance my mom was the oldest and born in 1931, I think my grandmother was 17 when my mom was born, a brother and sister came and they all pretty much had the same upbringing, life on a farm in oHIO, My mom was a majorette and the band and grandma would see my mom got to practices and games, etc. mt mom mentioned when she was about 10 she and my grandma got diptheria and my grandmother almst des from an allergic reaction to the meds. My grandpa was working in the filed on a tractor, and somehow got his hand caught in a gear or something. mt grandpa knew everyone on the house was sick in bed and also under quarantine, so he ended up cutting part of a finger off so he could free himself...someone had left berries on the porch, so when grandpa came home he asked grandma about them long story short grandpa made a berry pie that night for supper with a HUGE BANDAGED FINGER,,,, My aunt and uncle came along later, and my aunt said she and my uncle lived in a totally different home and were not allowed todo much of anything at school other than attend classes, my grandpa became very nervous and drank heavily... but was never abusive as far as I was told..so it is possible Joan Crawfords chidren had different perceptipns of their mother, but to make up slander and lies for a dollar is a terrible thing!@

[@chetyoubetya8565]

I think it's more the case she adopted children and of course anyone can love a baby but once her two oldest children started to have their own personalities she went with the only thing she was ever shown as a child and that was both psychological and physical abuse.She really expected both children to be grateful they were adopted as if they had any choice in the matter.Buying your children things does not make up for any abuse plenty of really well to do families who give children plenty of material things are abusive.She couldn't dominate her two oldest children and they knew her façade and after a certain age neither child ever lived with Joan for ant extended period again .Her two youngest children were it seems very easily dominated by Joan so she was much less abusive to both.I saw an interview with one of her twin daughters and they asked her to describe Joan who had long since past.The first thing she said about her is she was a disciplinarian.That to me doesn't sound like a kind loving mother considering she could have described her as anything on the planet.I do believe both older children were abused when they were growing up Joan was a active alcoholic and having that as a parent is a nightmare alone pr it with a parent who seems to be very narcissistic and you are doomed.Not to mention who tells their children adopted or not why would your kids think I was their grandmother?

[@AA-ct7cb]

She left most of her money to charity and not to the two youngest. That’s odd as they were close.

[@annresnik6059]

I believe the abuse. Joan was an alcoholic. They are subject to intermittent rages. I do also believe she could be difficult and at times, kind and sensitive.

[@JenniferKingInGA]

Love these! Great work!! Thank you!😊

[@nancyjanette_]

New subbie here. Loving the old hollywood vids! ❤️

[@suzannah1017]

Love your biographies❤ I've been on a BIG VALLEY binge. Have you ever done Barbara Stanwyck or Linda Evans?

[@angrybusdriver5656]

Christina wasnt her daughter that was a child Joan purchased and it just didnt work

[@danicegewiss862]

Christina was her adopted daughter.

[@Me_N_My4]

New subscriber ;) ABSOLUTELY ADORE THIS VIDEO💯💗🕊️

[@jaygatz4335]

You should have done Faye's makeup for Mommie Dearest. They got the arch of the eyebrows all wrong!

[@AshleyAye]

Lol! Thank you!!! 🥰

[@stephaniewilliams3985]

Wow you resembles Renee Zelwege?r so much

[@randyrackley4340]

at frist I thought she was Renee

[@larrydirtybird]

You are very good at multitasking.

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you! 😅

[@nancyjustme]

I was so excited for this. I saw Mommy dearest when it came out and I was appalled. My Mother and Grandmother loved her especially since she was from Lawton , Oklahoma. I thought her daughter had to have been making it up to just make money since it was so insane. Once again you did an amazing job! Thanks 💜💜💜🥂

[@vanyadolly]

Bipolar Narcissists can go into rages that seem absolutely inconceivable to other people, which is an issue because some people straight out don't believe there's abuse in a family because it's "too insane", or they're "usually so nice". It's an adult temper tantrum. It's also pretty common for troubled people with childhood trauma to act out the same kind of abuse on their children, and particularly their first child. We should all be careful about disbelieving victims when we don't know the whole story. Some people came out in defense of Joan, but a lot of them also supported the abuse claims.

[@eej1983able]

@@vanyadolly Christina may have been scared to publish anything sooner than after Joan's death. We don't know what happened but you're right about a narcissistic person making it seem like things are normal in public

[@chetyoubetya8565]

@@eej1983able Not to mention even if Christina did publish the book when Joan was alive I doubt she ever would admit any of it was true.Not to mention there are way to many inaccuracies to the video.

[@accesstotheredcarpet]

Christina was sued by her twin sisters (Cathy and Cynthia) and several others (including famous actors)who denounced the claims Christina falsely made in her book. They sued her in court for defamation and won. Christina is a liar!

[@ben_jamin4529]

@@accesstotheredcarpet ridiculous.....of course they would defend her. They were adopted years after when Joan was a much older woman. Defending a woman you never met as if you were there is utterly ridiculous and a slap in the face for survivors.

[@4nlover635]

Who knows what really happened? Christina has changed her story a lot over the years.

[@kristopherwilhite]

She has not changed her story

[@4nlover635]

@Kristopher Wilhite ah, yes, she has. I think she has taken a few incidents and dramatized it. 🙄🙄

[@erika.vieira]

I agree with you about people who abuse children, its beyond infuriating and makes me very upset, things dont bother me too much except THAT

[@AshleyAye]

Yes! It gets me so upset everytime! 🙏🏻

[@ben_jamin4529]

Yet later on she totally disregarded Christina...right because she's a Joan fan girl and can only sympathize with her. Completely disregarding her abusive nature is completely inaccurate.

[@min_blogs28landing32]

Yet, she doesn't believe Christina. Hmmm, very contradicting. If that's the case, we can't believe Joan was SA by her father, right. Joan was an abuser, bipolar, narcissist, and more.

[@pistolannie6500]

My Paternal Grandmother Lived in Loton Oklahoma, And worked on the Military Base.

[@randyrackley4340]

You are awesome! This was very entertaining. Linda Darnell would be a good choice. She was so beautiful, but had a lot of tragedy In her life. Dying from burns she sustained In a house fire.

[@Kaboomboo]

Lucille Ball named her daughter Lucie and no one gave her crap. Some people, my husband included, think naming a child after themselves or someone else robs them of their identity, male or female. I never had an issue with it. If you want to keep confusion to a minimum use a nickname. I think nicknames are adorable.

[@korieshannon9645]

What if Her book is true? You said you don’t like people who hurt children. You never know what goes on behind closed doors. Just saying

[@celladora31]

What if it wasn't?

[@AshleyAye]

The truth is we will never know unfortunately 💔

[@celladora31]

@@AshleyAye the truth is she's almost 80 and has made a life career of this, so even if Joan was truly abusive then Christina should be grateful otherwise she would be out of a career and an income. I still think Joan was aware of the book and it may have been her idea. Christina got an income and people still talk about and watch Joan's movies because of the publicity. Joan knew how to work the public. That's why she had a 40 year career in movies. And that's a ruthless industry.

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

​​​ Joan died in 1976, the book came out in 1978. Joan did not know about the book.

[@celladora31]

@@virginiaschaefer9693 Christina was writing the book before Joan died. Check on it.

[@donspringstead1649]

Do something on Tina Turner,...maybe?

[@buffalochic1974]

Ok l know someone has probably asked this, but what is that yellow thing you are dabbing on your face? Btw you look very beautiful without the makeup.

[@MsBackstager]

Also, JC and BD were both in love with Franchot Tone, but JC married him.

[@PBXVIILY]

I love all of these biographies. I am a big Joan Crawford fan. I think the book may have initially shocked people, but it fizzled and Christina Crawford proved herself to be money hungry loser. She spent all the money she made on the book and movie rights, and has squeezed as much as she could out of her very famous Mother. Christine Crawford has demonstrated in many interviews her intense obvious jealousy and envy of her Mother. I think most people are on to her. Christine’s interview with Larry King in 2000, makes the jealousy and envy she has for her Mother very transparent. I do not think this book did any damage to Joan Crawford other than make younger generations seek out her films. Christine rCrawford was not a beautiful or talented. She was seething with jealousy, and this envy and jealousy turned to hatred. Again Joan persevered

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

Christina's book is true, and she is not jealous of her mother.

[@shannon897]

I can’t say she was jealous of her mother….but I just read the book and, my opinion, is that Christina was rather conceited. Did you read the book? Not trying to be rude at all! Just curious. I really try to have an objective viewpoint and use critical thinking skills to formulate opinions. I do think Joan could probably be excessive in her punishments as well as be overly critical and harsh….which could obviously lead to emotional trauma. She was also an alcoholic and probably did not always make rational, fair, or empathic parenting decisions. I just don’t know that I believe Christina’s childhood was so fraught with abuse that justified her book. Yes, it was her right to write it 😉 She did go on to try to sue on or both of her younger sisters for expressing their differing opinion after the book came out. She also lost a lawsuit in which she stated that the twins were not biological twins. So obviously some control issues of her own….and I don’t see any rational reason she would say the twins weren’t twins. Ultimately I can empathize with certain aspects of Joan and Christina. The adoptions were absolutely unethical and adoption trauma is not uncommon-especially in those times. Joan also experienced horrific trauma which surely affected her parenting. I also imagine that she may have truly loved her children and did the best she could at the time. Maybe Christina just never bonded with her and they didn’t form a healthy attachment 🤷‍♀️ either way, I can appreciate and respect everyone’s opinion 🤍

[@Tbart3]

Omg this wig looks so good on you

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you!!! I really liked this one!!

[@donspringstead1649]

@@AshleyAye how about dinning Tina Turner's mop?...really...lol

[@donspringstead1649]

@@AshleyAye btw....excellent video! I loved Joan Crawford!

[@malevich1000]

Good video but you contradict yourself early on you say you can't stand people who hurt children but then later defend Joan from her abuse accusations I believe Christina

[@cynthiasnowden600]

So do I

[@AshleyAye]

It’s not meant as a defense but more as a point that in this case we will never know be certain of the truth unfortunately 💔

[@joyceadams5765]

I think Cristina lied about another. Joan was strict, but her daughter had issues. A lot of friends cited un truths Cristina told.

[@marinschuldt101]

I don't understand......it says that Joan was A GEMINI AND THAT SHE DIED ALSO IN JUNE!???

[@hopefulforhumanity5625]

The reason people were concerned if someone was sleeping around is because society valued marriage and children, and the standard was 1 spouse for life. If someone is sleeping around it makes them seem like they don't think pregnancy is likely to happen. It may also give the appearance of selfishness and untrustworthiness, but overall it shows irresponsible behavior.

[@robertdoherty2001]

9:43. It’s claimed that there were many ‘Joan Arden’ entries in that contest, making MGM liable to pay everyone $500 - a fortune in 1925! There was no actress by that name, so that was an expeditious lie. ‘Joan Crawford’ was the next best choice.

[@MsBackstager]

Lucille Ball named her daughter Lucie.

[@sonjadavis2574]

Doesn't Joan Crawford have an autobiography about her life story?

[@Garsons-oq4lh]

Yes, it was released in 1962 (A Portrait of Joan).

[@trishsiprell6996]

There's also one called My Way of Life. Never read it. Not a fan. If you read the book, you can see where CC tries to understand her mother. But JC was such a control freak; they had such a love/hate relationship. It was like CC was torn between hating JC and wanting to be her. Very weird. I saw some of the clothes from her movies, and they were gorgeous. But somehow in photos, she always reminds me of the Evil Queen from Snow White. I don't know why; she just does.

[@poolmotorrepairguyFL]

good thing I don't need makeup. you did not need it you're already super cute

[@AshleyAye]

Thank you!

[@denyasaltz1994]

"WANT TO JUST GO AND SPIT ON PEOPLE'S GRAVES". YOU ARE SO TART. FUNNY GIRLIE👍. 😇😎🎤.

[@AshleyAye]

LOL! Thank you!

[@helenal.7881]

Yes!! If you hurt/abuse children or animals you are just a bad person.

[@richardm239]

LOVE JOAN SHE/S ONE OF THE GREATS FROM THE GOLDEN ERA ! YOU LOOK GREAT THE MAKEUP IS LOVELY ,BUT IF YOUR GOING TO PORTRAY JOAN YA GOTT GET THE LIPS RIGHT !!! THAT WAS REALLY A TRAIDMARK OF HERS !!!!!

[@thesilentdiva]

A lot of the stuff in that book I do not believe.... Someone that concerned with image sending their child to school in tattered clothes as a punishment for a week.....cap Her killing her husband 😑 girl

[@MsBackstager]

JC had her molars removed so that she could have an angular face.

[@waleedwicked]

Ppl

[@rtoma1974]

Adjusted for inflation, Joan's movies grossed more than Will Smith's movies. Fact. Christina was an untalented plain Jane who was jealous of Joan.

[@austinsadler]

But if Joan Crawford was 69 when she died in 1977 wouldn't that make her born in 1908

[@AshleyAye]

No one really knows when she was born 🤷🏼‍♀️ I went with 69 because that was in the obituary but we now know that we don’t know lol

[@austinsadler]

@@AshleyAye we could always call the San Antonio birth records and say she's a great great grandma of ours

[@4nlover635]

Joan Crawford was born in 1904. World census.

[@jonathanmeadows6813]

@@4nlover635 1906

[@virginiaschaefer9693]

​​@@AshleyAyeJoan lied about her age, she was born in 1904. She was 72 when she died.

[@Linda-ln4ir]

NO to dark hair!

[@1AEROSOL.1PUFF]

THAT BLACK WIG IS NOT BECOMING ON YOU, I FELT FEAR COMING ON ME WHEN I LOOKED AT IT AND THAT HAIRLINE ON YOUR FORHEAD 👀

[@valhipkiss4011]

Oh dear , was looking forward to Hearing this , the make up show is getting a bit over the top , so just lost me as a subscriber , put your make up on before you start the show , bye .

[@danicegewiss862]

There are a lot of KZbinrs who do their makeup as they're making videos.

[@allie_Am]

Girlie, better style your wig better and contour your forehead. That lace is super clockable

[@AshleyAye]

Lol 😅 no worries, it literally is only for the video for fun. I am under no illusion that I could pull off a wig outside my bedroom 🤣🤣