WTF Happened To Terminator Dark Fate?

[@mmdrahaman]

Man if they didn't kill John Connor , and then had the original actor as a deadbeat and gave him a redemption arc and a need to reconnect with the mom and his destiny, the movie would have been so much better.

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

Unfortunately because of Furlong's legal and drug use it would of been hard to get funding and insurance for the film. He did get paid for them using his likeness in the beginning.

[@AlexGreat321]

​@@henrywallacesghost5883nick Stahl could have done it

[@RobotacularRoBob]

@@AlexGreat321That’s like saying Curly Joe can just be the Third Stooge.

[@arachnivision]

​@@henrywallacesghost5883 furlong was long time sober by the time this movie was being written and filmed..don’t spread misinformation.

[@BigFrakingSword]

That would have been better. Because what happens to someone who goes from being the "Chosen One" to just some guy with nothing but a lengthy criminal history to lean on? Likely, nothing good at all. And in T2 he already had issues with his mother due to her perceived lies and insanity.

[@squelish]

That intro with John means that instead of making another Terminator 2, they made another Alien 3

[@MrSnaztastic]

Oof, you'd think Cameron would see the irony.

[@hakimzane]

This movie is the epitome of current Hollywood. Kill what the majority of people liked and insert your idea here. There's this weird trend of "I know better than the original" with a lot of franchises. Most of the time, that mentality just angers the already established fanbase and ends up failing.

[@kjorlaug1]

Terminator Salavtion was the real opportunity in this franchise, but was nuetered for PG13 rating. Everything since then has been a weak attempt to recapture T2 magic

[@Linklex7]

Salvation could’ve worked if the franchise would just stop being obsessed with rehashing the plot to Terminator 2. It should’ve ended at 2 and then you can do a prequel with the future war. Even in Salvation, the future war was relegated to a side plot to focus on the time displaced hero who must save the chosen one (in this case, Kyle Reese). Stop using time travel as a crutch.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

Pity it was the "Teehee crusing around during the day Wwwooohhh!" Fallout, and not "Humans are vermin living in the rubble, coming out at night" stobe lighting DEW fallout.

[@DevilFan669]

@@Linklex7I’m glad it didn’t ended at 2 I enjoyed T3,T4, T5 and also T6 too and I never stand the hate for those films at all but that’s just my personal opinions

[@ehenyor]

It was ok, but didnt live up to the hype. Three major mistakes: 1) Killing John C. 2) Giving Arnold a family and 3) The pacing was terrible... Not much breathing room. Everything else sounded great: 1) Mexico (not enough of it, tho), 2) bringing back SC, and 3) The T-Rev was a cool idea (Mexican Terminator!!)

[@hellacoorinna9995]

T-Juan-Thousand

[@RobotacularRoBob]

Giving Arnold a family was definitely silly / far fetched, but not that much sillier than “talk to the hand” from T3. Every film needs comic relief, though that one became a whole plotline, so I can laugh either way. I do think the villain Terminator was much better than the TX, since it could become 2 separate terminators hence twice the threat.

[@laurencelikestopgun]

Killing John Connor off was a stupid idea and I hope the person who came up with that never work in Hollywood again

[@fulcrum6760]

@@laurencelikestopgun It was James Cameron.

[@laurencelikestopgun]

@fulcrum6760 Vader: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@fulcrum6760]

@@laurencelikestopgun There’s a reason why folks forget the Avatar films a lot. Dude is a piss poor writer.

[@laurencelikestopgun]

@fulcrum6760 yeah, like check out some of the alternatives ending in his classic films, it's pretty bad

[@danbh84]

@@fulcrum6760 that’s the most ridiculous comment I’ve read all year

[@LucyLioness100]

I feel for Tim Miller here since he was micromanaged by Cameron & really wasn’t allowed to do what he wanted. I missed this movie & don’t regret it

[@cyborgparrot1996]

This makes me wish Terminator: Salvation got a sequel instead (its ending directly leading into Terminator 1).

[@hellacoorinna9995]

There's a reason,, the best Terminator game (besides the Bethesda one from the 80s/90s) is the one set in the "human are vermin coming out at night" Future.

[@danielrudolf5441]

Whenever a new Terminator sequel came out after T2: "This is the worst Terminator movie." "No. This is the worst Terminator movie YET..."

[@djtek9ine]

For all its flaws, I’d still rather watch Dark Fate than Rise Of The Machines or Genisys.

[@elviscoso01]

Exactly. And Salvation too.

[@djtek9ine]

@ Salvation is damn a masterpiece compared to T3 and Genisys.

[@ChuckNoRes1984]

You have Brain damage if you think this is better than T3. This was woke shite.

[@djtek9ine]

@@ChuckNoRes1984 first of all, leave my CTE out of this and second, I said what I said. T3 was a huge disappointment for me. The last 5 minutes are good, but the rest of it, was a huge let down. Call it “woke shit” all you want, it’s still better than T3 and Genisys.

[@lowwill2986]

Wow I'm guessing I'm the only one that liked this one. Really good movie

[@paulaburrows8660]

The only way these hacks making current movies is to destroy original characters and stories. They know that they lack the talent to compete

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Just a disgusting film and insulted me with its very existence. Yeah, I'm salty, and I always will be. I love T2 and as a kid I saw myself in John Conner. He is the core of the whole franchise. This film is an insult to that core of the franchise and even though James Cameron gave his stamp of approval - he has a habit of endorsing things for money and abandon his creations, so, no, that doesn't mean anything. He probably has never watched this film and just said some kind words for a quick paycheck. There are only T1 and T2 as hard canon, and if I'm in a good mood I'd watch T3 and Salvation (which is underrated and had potential). As for this, it lives up to its title, 'Dark Fate', fitting for a terrible final film that ended the franchise.

[@Nostalgic-mt6lr]

Well said

[@aab350z]

I like to call it "Woke Fate." It makes me feel better...

[@LiirThropp2687]

It was such a slap in the face to Sarah and the fans. Everything she went through, saving the entire world, fighting to protect John, was pointless. It was all for nothing.

[@M1keFoxxx]

I think Dark Fate is the worst in the franchise. At least the bad ones like Genisys are fun to watch. This one just makes me angry. I'd watch any of the other sequels after T2 before I watched Dark Fate again

[@eddiebranden1]

Do you need a hug?

[@ChiCityJay91]

I liked the movie, but wouldn’t Arnold in T2 know that Skynet sent several terminators to kill John? And wouldn’t they join the T-1000 in T2? It made absolutely no sense. I think the movie would’ve been better if the opening scene never happened and the Rev-9 was so powerful that Grace and Arnold’s T-800 was sent back to protect Dani. Then they later got help from adult John and Sarah Connor.

[@RobotacularRoBob]

The “extra terminators” being sent back for Sarah to kill is a silly plot and isn’t required. That plot could have been left out completely.

[@coomtothebroom778]

Unpopular opinion…I kinda liked Dark Fate. Yes, it had its problems and I can’t forgive them for what they did to John Connor, but I liked some ideas in the plot and it was great seeing Linda Hamilton and Arnie back in their roles. Plus the action was pretty cool and I liked the villain’s dual organic and cybernetic hunting abilities.

[@Kthomasritchie]

The franchise really needs to return to its roots and recapture the look and feel of the original movie.

[@dan_evilrobot]

Better than Terminator Genisys, but still not good. So Yeah, this is a reason why the first two Terminator movies are still the best ever made.

[@M1keFoxxx]

See, I agree that maybe the film is objectively "better". But at least Genesys falls a bit more into "so bad it's good". Dark Fate is just a bummer to sit through

[@Nostalgic-mt6lr]

What happened is that since post T2 Hollywood refused to learn its lesson and continued to hire directors that were not up to scratch and what made this even worse than previous sequels was bringing identity politics into it. Complete idiocy and they wondered why it did so bad and they will probably continue to churn out crap sequels with the same crap. It should not be that difficult, get Cameron to direct it with his original script he planned and leave out the identity politics and people will watch it.

[@gelfie2208]

Dark Fate was fine. Its fine. The first two stand on their own. But you can definitely sit down and enjoy Dark Fate unless you're a hopeless fanboy, in which case, no matter what it is you are a fan of, you are doomed to spend the rest of your days never enjoying anything.

[@RobotacularRoBob]

It does getting a lot of hate despite being a lot closer in tone / seriousness to the originals compared to any of the post T2 sequels. It has the best post T2 villain and having Sarah Connor back is better than having only Dr Silberman as the only other returning actor.

[@The_Texorcist]

I hate dark fate. It just makes no sense when ya really look at it. Good example is the terminator that kills John Connor. Okay directive to kill John Connor… that tracks, no problem with that because it makes sense when it comes to Skynet’s logic so far. The problem is why was killing John Connor it’s ONLY directive? Wouldn’t Skynet put in a secondary objective for the Terminator to use its parts to ensure Skynet is created? I mean it was a terminator that was the basis of the Skynet supercomputer as we saw in T2 and the Terminator in that film had such a tragic ending cause he realized as long as he was around Skynet could still happen. Well… yeah huge plot hole for the terminator that killed John and then just went for a walk. That’s what we call bad writing. As far as the rest it was really derivative. We have a future resistance leader who learns on their future potential, a knockoff of the t3 terminatrix model with a combination of t-100 and t-1000 characteristics, etc. In the end I wish Cameron would have just kept the original ending of T2 with a glimpse of the future where the war never happened, Sarah was a grandmother watching her congressman son John play with her granddaughter. That would ended the franchise once and for all on a hopeful note and thus no sequels.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Couldn't have said it myself, the T2 original ending to me is the real ending. No sequels, T1 and T2 make a perfect duology.

[@Djp2987]

@@Nicholas_Chen_ T2:3D

[@RobotacularRoBob]

Devils advocate on some points: Having a “second objective” like doing something to help create skynet doesn’t make sense either because where can a teminator go in the past to get reverse engineered to create skynet? Surely they could rely on backup data from cyberdyne and the hand crushed in the still mill and continue on as usual as if judgment day was postponed. Also, the villain in Dark Fate WAS a better implementation of a hybrid terminator, since it could literally separate into 2 separate enemies, whereas T-X felt like a cheesy WWE villain arc with nonsensical technology and acting that was beyond corny, especially with the E-gasm when she finds John’s DNA. The overall “plot” of Dark Fate is “eh”, but at least it has a more believable dark tone with the threat of the villain compared to softcore Cinemax Fap-bait with Dr Silberman as the only other OG actor in the film.

[@ChuckNoRes1984]

@@RobotacularRoBob Nope

[@jamesabernethy7896]

This is the only Terminator movie I haven't seen in full. I've watched others review it like you. It clearly has issues but if handled differently this could have had promise. I think a 3-way battle could have interesting. Skynet and Legion both having agents trying to make sure that their future reality comes to fruition meanwhile the Humans want to make sure that neither AI takes over.

[@miragenights801]

Dark Fate sucks but I'll never understand saying it's worse than Genisys because it's "an insult to what the first two films created". Genisys didn't JUST essentially kill John Connor. It flat-out erased those movies from existence altogether on top of killing the central force behind them. Nothing can be more sacrilege than ERASING THE STORIES FROM CONTINUITY. Plus Genisys' action sequences were garbage, at least Dark Fate had fire choreography

[@goodoldbubba6620]

Proof that endless sequels aren't wanted or needed.

[@WrathOfGrapesN7]

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I bloody love this movie. It's my second favourite of the franchise (after T2, of course), and Mackenzie Davis' incredible performance will always be a highlight of my movie watching.

[@Derkin2005]

There are only Two Terminator films in my opinion.

[@gavinmiller690]

Salvaton?

[@Derkin2005]

@ no

[@chrisbee8009]

T3 was ok. Yes it was just riffing on T2 but at least it was entertaining

[@RobotacularRoBob]

@@chrisbee8009”Ok”

[@DevilFan669]

@@gavinmiller690yes my favorite of the franchise in my opinion

[@RaphaelRemington6969]

This movie made me angry. Yeah it’s just a movie, but the first two Terminator films are meaningful to me.

[@raxxum]

I feel like the audience deserves a future war saga with the terminator franchise. We’ve been stuck in the saving John Conor from terminators getting sent to the past story line.

[@robertchambers6344]

I really enjoyed this. Was killing John Connor a mistake? I'm not so sure.

[@mikedabro1084]

They could make Arnold as a human character, soldier, maybe general on skynet program, on whom skynet would design T800 later on.

[@RioFordays]

T3 behind the scenes

[@RobotacularRoBob]

@@RioFordaysThat ranks high on of my list of all time cringiest deleted scenes in a film. Thus, OP’s idea that it would have worked better as it’s own plot for this movie instead of a throwaway “joke” to parody the source material.

[@gqueirogabr]

When 2 of the main iconic actors are feeling bummed out or crying over their replacements youve fucked up

[@eddieblancher7557]

To be honest, John Connor 's death ☠️ is the reason why I don't watch this movie. I will only watch the first five films.

[@MrMegatron85]

I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. Tim Miller's vision elevated this movie over the last 3 for sure

[@CRITTERBUSTERS]

Dark Fate offered nothing new and made some very bad character and plot decisions. Particularly with John Connor’s death in the beginning of the film. It was more cohesive and technically better directed than Genisys, but that wasn’t enough. It’s a case of a movie trying to have its cake and eating it. Of all the sequels, T2 still is the one to beat. But I’d also say Salvation is underrated, at least that one was different and gave some awesome visuals. If it had an R-Rating and another script revision, Salvation would’ve been a classic entry.

[@Horrormaster13]

I had SO MANY QUESTIONS after watching Terminator: Dark Fate such as how does the T-800 Terminator (Carl) even exist considering that John Connor, reprogrammed T-800 (Uncle Bob) and Sarah Connor stopped the creation of Skynet and therefore Judgment Day? How did they came up with a dumber sounding name than Skynet? Who approved this script? How was this written by FIVE writers? etc.

[@jamesmorant1406]

You can never top the first two movies, and they always messed up the timelines

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

The only character I liked in this film was Makenzie Davis' role. People should watch Halt and Catch Fire. She was great in that AMC show.

[@jcaceres516]

Station eleven too

[@Begining2013]

I actually didnt hate Dark Fate. Sure, it was no where near as good at T1 & T2 but it was miles better than the other sequels. I enjoyed seeing Linda and Arnie back again. The actress who played the Kyle Reese character was good. I think the actors who played the heroine and the terminator were uninteresting.

[@richardhoehn9922]

Interestingly, I'm re-watching Sarah Connor Chronicles on DVD. This one was...okay, the pacing wasn't all that, but interesting concept in giving us an alternate Skynet and a young/dynamic female leader in "Dani Ramos."

[@agnethaladuff8559]

Every Terminator sequels get so much better everytime!

[@adamdavis1737]

Eh, It was all right. But all right isn't good enough for a franchise that has a legacy in science fiction. I liked it better than Genesis at least but otherwise it's kind of forgettable because it yet again is basically just another Terminator 2 rehash. I think the movie should have been about how the Terminator opened up his drapery business. Carl the family man Terminator is the best part of the film

[@elviscoso01]

To me the only thing that really doesn't work in the movie is the casting choice of Natalia Reyes. She's a good actress but not for this role. The rest is great.

[@HCHecxz]

Could write a better What Happened here than Mike Holtz. So many missed the plot over nostalgia because people wanted to have John Conner be the focus of every new computer AI threat, which is so relevant to today where AI continues to take over human life, or it’s so called “Woke” agenda, regardless - Dark Fate had the better sequel concept after Skynet/Conner story was over with.

[@tombolcar8858]

I remember being bored and turned it off when they got to the hotel

[@Militantcharles]

I like how Linda Hamilton was in this film, and Arnold’s look. That’s about it.

[@gersonislas]

Give me a Kyle Reese story and look at the war against the machines, ending with Kyle being sent back in time to protect Sarah Connor

[@geeshep4836]

I Remember Seeing The Movie Joker At The AMC Theater back in 2019 (Pre-Pandemic) And During The Coming Attractions They Showed Terminator: Dark Fate Trailer and then after the trailer Ended I Was Saying To Myself This Terminator Sequel is Doomed Very Doomed Terminator and Terminator 2 Still holds near and Dear to my heart.

[@SplinkProductions]

The horror. The horror.

[@Comptonny]

I am all for the premise and killing John Conner. The action in this movie was pretty good. And there is some good here. But there were so many weird ideas. The justification of old arnold didn't add up. He got a old and became a family man? They shouldn't of showed old Dani in the future. Also what terminators was sara killing with John gone? Just missionless random terminators from a future that didn't exist anymore?

[@jimbowlan5804]

@Comptonny I wasn’t against killing John I hated the way they presented Dani not the actresses fault and how they did Sarah if it wasn’t a terminator film I’d enjoy it more because it’s terminator it’s gonna be judged more harshly

[@teeboz6237]

I mean, obviously the timeline skewered in order to make the MC of Dark Fate the resistance leader now. That was their mission.

[@TheLonelySoulja]

I literally was just talking about this movie randomly last night

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Tim Miller should direct something more CGI-driven Like a live-action TMNT movie

[@hellacoorinna9995]

Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go!

[@stillwaitingfor99]

I will say I did laugh at the drap scene I said don't do it Was just good and funny

[@lonesn1per]

Im in the percentage that actually loved this movie, coming from being a fan of the first Terminator and a mega fan of T2 as a kid (I had the t-800 toy with the exposed exo skeleton). But to each their own right?

[@RobotacularRoBob]

I’m in the group that didn’t completely hate the movie, it does have its own pros and cons to the other sequels, but is better than most post T2 sequels.

[@lonesn1per]

@RobotacularRoBob exactly! I remember this movie than most sequels, for me it's T1,T2,Dark Fate and Salvation.

[@mikeobier7913]

James Cameron is just playing his game to make his Terminator 3 ALL CGI with no real actors. Hey I’ll watch it but… it feels like James Cameron is SKYNET.

[@101Waylander]

I seem to be in the minority as I enjoy every single film in the Terminator franchise. They entertain me and that’s all I care about.

[@looneyburgmusic]

What happened was Cameron couldn't stand that Terminator might have gone on without him, with the cast and storyline from Genisys, so he intentionally destroyed the franchise Also, stop lying, saying that Genisys did poorly, because Genisys is only beat by T2 for box office take, meaning the "new" story did better than the original Terminator, T3, and Salvation.

[@unrealdevon]

Just another one that spits the legacy in its face.

[@anrios575]

Best post-T2 movie is still Salvation 😊

[@Militantcharles]

IF, IF there is another film it needs to take place in the future (with laser beams) when the war ends, and then literally end the franchise once and for all.

[@deanvillarreal147]

Linda Hamilton old school bad ass still. She knows how to handle these weapons. I'm sure it annoyed her working with people with no to little training

[@OofHearted]

Mackenzie Davis was my favourite part of this movie. She wasn't even on my radar before this but I've had the hots for her since.

[@alexmelendez6732]

Female cyborg was big mistake & killing john connor was the other

[@RobotacularRoBob]

TX was a big mistake too if you ask me

[@joeontherun]

just because avatar makes more money doesn’t mean it’s better… they highly promote avatar to kids for those profits

[@blackamerican40]

Wow! 5 years from now, we'll be in the first film's time-line. Will machines take over then? 😮

[@Roman-tu3vh]

Btw, i can never understand how people calling T Zero return of the form for a franchise, it could be nice non terminator anime, but as part of this franchise its borderline laughable

[@MikeD974]

Killing John destroys the whole point of the franchise made 0 sense

[@Thatmikecarter]

John, Connor is not a character. He's a plot point that's it. And he's held the series back. It's boring being about him all the time. You just didn't like it because it was a Mexican lady

[@cameronpritchett8300]

​@Thatmikecarter no, it ruins T2. That's why no one but apparently YOU doesn't like it. Don't push you're flimsy liberal cancel culture agenda and start calling people bigots because they didn't like something. You're a clown.

[@flavadave3943]

Hands down, the worst of all of them. The only thing worse than the killing off of John at the very beginning, was the ridiculous idea that that tiny girl would somehow look the part of a resistance leader. The old T-800 character, a close second. And the effort to try and diminish the importance of motherhood was just obnoxious and indicative of everything bad about Hollywood and identity politics. Absolute garbage movie.

[@nickducharme5104]

The t.v series was what they should have kept doing

[@WheeledHamster]

Disrespected John Connor and said here's WAMEN.

[@fulcrum6760]

At least Tim Miller found redemption in Secret Level.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

He should do TMNT

[@VaughnJogVlog]

You don't know "what happened" you just use it as a template for clickbait.

[@jerseyheller2263]

This movie should’ve been aborted when they killed John Connor

[@joeabernathy5402]

The only decent pieces of media terminator has produced since T2 is the anime and Terminator Resistance. Put it to bed already.

[@mrmaxaxl]

Many CGI effects looks worse than the 1991 movie T2! Embarrassing.

[@mau5pilot854]

I’m really starting to think that Jim Cameron has fell off.

[@MrAnimeMilitary]

I had a choice between Ford v Ferrari back in the tail-end of 2019 at my local iMax thester. I regretted choosing this film over the Christian Bale movie. This film was a feminist propaganda movie.

[@bofawhatsbofa4593]

Imagine if they had just STUCK with the tone of 1 and 2 🤷🏽‍♂️ not the comedy of 3. Or two reboots.

[@SquabbleBoxHQ]

The fact Cameron was fine putting his name on this and taking credit for the story should be a warning that he's now a complete and total hack with better technical specs than the average.

[@gavinmiller690]

Maybe if the dierecttorr didn't attak the fan base before the flm came out perhaps?

[@alejandromolinac]

Huh? Love how you clearly omit the director antagonizing the fans….. sigh….

[@gregmize01]

LOL, who could've seen it's failure coming?

[@Djordje_Jovanovic]

Killing John Connor ironically killed the franchise. John Connor is the Terminator franchise, not the cyborgs.

[@MotorBro78]

Accurate.

[@Stefan_Gerards]

Dark Fate never made T1 and T2 pointless. they still happened. John had no further story left after T2. Sarah and John destroyed Skynet before its creation, 30 years before it was destined to be destroyed. Sarah ensured 3 billion lives another 25 years of life, it was only natural that further down the line, a different AI would be created from scratch without the intervention of time travel. it builds on Arnold's T2 line "it's in your nature to destroy yourselves".

[@LeonardoKlotz]

James Cameron created everything And then ruined everything

[@anthonymurchison8035]

He didn’t hush 🤡

[@seanguinn]

They killed John Connor and replace him with a short Mexican chick. 😂

[@theopoluspuckett5827]

Dude (T2) is so over-hyped...was not that good of a movie .

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Terminator: Dark Fail

[@dionicio24]

I feel the series is an enjoyable it just depends on how you approach it. Story wise, the series is cooked. Action with a few characters I’m familiar with? Not bad

[@rocksnot952]

It was a fine movie, but there was a lot of sexual politics in the runup to the release.

[@shockwave7513]

Its fucking hilarious reading some of these replies. How sad your lives must be if you take a movie as a personal attack. 😂 I do, and always, will maintain that if there had never been any other Terminator movies since T2, this movie would've been more accepted. Killing John makes perfect sense. It's perfect machine logic. In T2, they literally said that Skynet sent back more than one Terminator to kill them. We just assumed that only meant the original and the T-1000. But since Skynet didn't know where they were, it sent multiple units to multiple points in time. All the Terminators Sarah was killing were these Terminators. She even says when she meets up with our new characters that she's never seen a Terminator like it before. Because it's from the new future timeline, not the old one. Is it a great movie? No. But is it as bad as people make it out to be? Also, no.

[@wstine79]

At least now, James Cameron has the Terminator rights and can get them safe in the vault.

[@SplinkProductions]

Except he was involved in “Dark Fate”….

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

He's not gonna do anything about it, he's obsessed with his blue alien Avatar fantasy (which is good for him, looks like he's really into it and as long as it makes him happy...) and will endorse any new films about Terminator IP for money.

[@Linklex7]

He was involved in Dark Fate. He’s as much to blame for that movie as Tim Miller was.

[@MURD3RWAVE]

I loved the for John ending. The acting on Linda's face when he dies. You can see the "it's over" thoughts go through her mind. Skynet, Kyle, Terminators and her sons death. The last connection to her son was watching his killer help save a different future That damn slight nod. Gets me every time. She had the whole timeline flash before her face. In one scene. . All of it died with that last t800. It was so depressing. Also For a split second before that t800 fell. Plus the t800 zoomed in to watch her with his last act before death. The terminator sacrificed himself for Sarah and John. So John from the grave still saved a future. I like to think she got that too. I agree with how horrible Danny's actress was and it didn't sit right with Johns death right off the bat. But Linda did knock me out with that acting at the end. One of my fav endings off all time in a movie that I don't really care for. Very odd.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

"It's over...." until Farmer Hollyweird wants to warm his hands again. 《C'mere, Bessie》

[@StoneyBrownTV]

This was a movie they never should have made. If this was a horrible movie, that would be an improvement on what this turned out to be.

[@TheMikadoOfLondon]

Still considering suing the studio for making me sit through this.

[@Thatmikecarter]

It's the best terminator sequel since 2 anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is just bitching because John Connor died. Funny how no one got upset when. John, Connor got killed in terminator genesis. Would that be anything to do with the Mexican characters?

[@thecunninlynguist]

LOL...DF sucked regardless if JC died. People hated the JC revelation in Genisys as well. 3 is the last decent movie in the franchise.

[@RioFordays]

I guess killing JC in Genysis was fine because it happens in the future, and the one in the rest of the movie is a villain.

[@teeboz6237]

What are you on about? Everyone hated what they did to John Connor in Genysis. That's ne of the many reasons it's considered a low point in the franchise. You seem to be just making up arguments to try and get likes on YT lol. Also, T3 is arguably better thank Dark Fate. A clearly younger Arnie, more and better humour, most of the action was practical and it had the biggest practical stunt ever up until that point if I remember correctly, a better villain, John was still...you now, John, actual legit tie-ins to the last movie and way better pacing. The literal only thing you can give Dark Fate is visual effects and that's a given due to the time. But I don't think how anyone can say Dark Fate is better than T3. As utterly hopeless as it was I would even put Salvation above DF. It's actually the second from last worst sequel after T2.

[@hakimzane]

What a crap take. The good ol blame an "istaphobe" excuse. The movie sucked and failed to attract MASS audiences. No one cared then and doesn't now. JFC!!

[@aab350z]

@Thatmikecarter "Terminator: Woke Fate" "Out of the six Terminator films, five of them have had the exact same plot and outline nearly beat for beat, and this movie is no exception. The only difference this time around being all of the protagonists are now female. Arnold Schwarzenegger's T-800 has now been completely emasculated and is married and running a drapery business (yes, really); the star of the franchise taking a backseat to a 65-year old Linda Hamilton and two other no-name actresses. Instead of just telling a great or original story for once, the film consistently bops you in the face with feminist and illegal immigration undertones, because what this film really is all about is just a lame, "progressive" agenda. I cannot believe that this is what the Terminator IP has become, and I can't believe that we live in a time so stupid and mediocre where something this idiotic and poor gets a $200 million dollar budget. The apocalypse can't get here soon enough!!" There you go.... I broke it down for you. Ya little race baiter!

[@DevilFan669]

I don’t get the hate for this movie at all I actually enjoy it and I really do love ❤️ Mackenzie Davis in this movie she did a great job and she was badass in this movie and she is so incredibly sexy as hell bro 😎 and I’m a huge fan of her now too loved 🥰 her to death man!!!

[@kikiiza3379]

Too many women? Alot of men are sensitive and felt left out. Alot men dont have the balls to be honest especially with themselves.

[@LouiepTv]

Na just a bad movie that most fans didnt care for. Genisyis had plenty of dudes an fans hated that movie even more lol.

[@Linklex7]

The hell are you talking about, it’s just a terrible movie. Plus no one hates Sarah Connor

[@randomridge]

I feel bad for everyone involved in terrible movies that are put out. So much work put in only to be crapped on until the end of time.

[@bane666au]

terminator damp fart was terrible, but still better than terminator genisys, but most things are.

[@michaelmazzajr6234]

When we get wtf happened to Terminator 2

[@sinistermaniac966]

That's an actual good movie.

[@mrhumble2937]

Terminator salvation the 3rd best.