ALIEN 3 - WTF Happened To This Movie?

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JoBlo Originals

Күн бұрын

Hollywood has had its fair share of historically troubled productions. Whether it was casting changes, actor deaths, fired directors, in-production rewrites, constant delays, budget cuts or studio edits, these films had every intention to be a blockbuster, but were beset with unforeseen disasters. Sometimes huge hits, sometimes box office bombs. Either way, we have to ask: WTF Happened To This Movie?
In the latest episode we look back at what happened to David Fincher's feature film debut and sequel to the Alien series, Alien 3. Met with critical backlash and fan rage over the death of key characters, as well as a claustrophobic setting, Alien 3 quickly became the Black Sheep of the franchise, but later gained a cult following with a longer cut released and a revisit after Alien: Resurrection, the 4th sequel, failed to right any wrongs of the past.
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@raserx63
@raserx63 4 жыл бұрын
The story should have been set 15-20 years after Aliens with a grown Newt as the female lead and the other characters in supporting roles. This would have closed the Ripley era and moved the franchise in a new direction. Personally , I would have liked the idea of seeing the home planet of the xenomorphs. Maybe with Newt obsessed with finding out what they are and where they came from. Fox can call me if they want to use my idea...😉
@Invidente7
@Invidente7 4 жыл бұрын
The most colossal assholish executive meddling happened. The movie itself isn't bad at all but killing off hicks and newt was tasteless.
@dreamcastfan
@dreamcastfan 4 жыл бұрын
You’d think Hollywood would learn but they went and did it all over again in Terminator Dark Fate by gunning down a teenage boy in the first minutes.
@gdwnet
@gdwnet 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It could have had so much more and it would have been good to have had Hicks there in that setting training these prisoners - the only person with any real military training. If they wanted to kill him off, fine but kill him off doing something heroic, not asleep in deep space.
@jasonpowell4975
@jasonpowell4975 4 жыл бұрын
Especially killing them offscreen.
@echozgus
@echozgus 4 жыл бұрын
the guy was working in terminator dark fate too?
@mabusestestament
@mabusestestament 4 жыл бұрын
Killing them of was great, starting the movie with a kick in the gut.
@erikrichardgregory
@erikrichardgregory 4 жыл бұрын
"A lot of people hated Alien 3. But no one hated it more than me." --David Fincher
@JoBloOriginals
@JoBloOriginals 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully Mr. Fincher went on to create some half-decent films after this one....lol.
@jeanetteterry9386
@jeanetteterry9386 4 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoyed Alien 3! Ripley got some! Charles S. Sutton was at the peak of his career. I enjoyed that British actor who was the doctor who gave Ripley some. I have 1-4! I saw the 5th at the box office. I cannot remember it. I will buy the DVD! Thank you! In the beginning of the movie I was very disappointed about Hicks being killed and little Newt. However over all, she stood her ground! Sigourney Weaver rocks!
@pinkacid
@pinkacid 4 жыл бұрын
JoBlo Videos Half decent after this one? You’ve clearly not watched this film- gotta be part of that hip hive mind to draw in the views, eh? And it’s pronounced Sue-Lock-Oh, you’d know that if you’d watched the last one. What’s next- the first film’s ship called Nooostramoo?
@michaeldriggers7681
@michaeldriggers7681 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeanetteterry9386 you mean Charles Dance? Better known as Tywin F****** Lannister!
@Yatsura2
@Yatsura2 4 жыл бұрын
_"Dont believe everything just because someone put it in quotes"_ - Albert Einstein, 1727, after he won his first Oscar for being the Last Jedi.
@jamessummers4015
@jamessummers4015 4 жыл бұрын
The way he says "Sulaco" tells me you have never watched any Alien film
@sendrakes4203
@sendrakes4203 4 жыл бұрын
LOL I hope youre right about this guy...since he missed Alien 4 (one that deserve WTF)
@JasonMichealHughes
@JasonMichealHughes 4 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like he's got a jaw breaker in his mouth.
@joshuamurphy6593
@joshuamurphy6593 4 жыл бұрын
@@JasonMichealHughes seriously though,Alien 3 was amazing,it had that indie feel and it was absolutely amazing,Comic book accurate and a worthy watch,south african movies have that habit.
@haletosis1380
@haletosis1380 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Was thinking the same thing.
@nocfenix
@nocfenix 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that struggles with the pronunciation the author of this video uses for "Sulaco?"
@UATU.
@UATU. 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it like “sue-LOCK-oh” in the films?
@ScrumDelly
@ScrumDelly 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Haha a small thing but man it really fried my eggs!
@willbelasco
@willbelasco 4 жыл бұрын
Cohesive G-unit yes. Also the loud trademark sound for each point was annoying
@razieltalos
@razieltalos 4 жыл бұрын
Yea hes saying it wrong and its unacceptible
@cyberdyer
@cyberdyer 4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@lilshabaz1862
@lilshabaz1862 4 жыл бұрын
I shudder to think how he would pronounce “Nostromo”...
@FrunkAsADuck
@FrunkAsADuck 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... I was wondering what is this comment about and boom.. Another ship name torn to shreds.
@xLNDxBama
@xLNDxBama 4 жыл бұрын
And his way to say Sulaco. It's Sa Loc O or as close as I could write as it is said in many games and movies
@peterbrazukas7771
@peterbrazukas7771 3 жыл бұрын
the No-stro-mo?
@Brascofarian
@Brascofarian 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it... he introduces it as one of the greatest movies of the genre but he’s too disinterested to bother watching it before making this video...
@darrell1974dal
@darrell1974dal 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Alien 3
@atomiswave1971
@atomiswave1971 4 жыл бұрын
I walked out of the cinema at the end of alien 3 in a kind of "did that just happen?" distraught kind of way. I felt that way about 5 minutes in when they killed everyone off.
@wavyamar
@wavyamar 7 ай бұрын
😂😭
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver Жыл бұрын
Alien 3 just feels like a ''What if?'' kind of movie. Like ''What if everything went to shit and all our characters died?'' But instead it's the final canon lore and it just hurts to know what else could've been out of the franchise.
@Memoryman12367
@Memoryman12367 Жыл бұрын
Basically everyone dies in alien and aliens. Everyone dies at some point anyway.
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver Жыл бұрын
@@Memoryman12367 No not everyone dies in Alien and Aliens.
@Memoryman12367
@Memoryman12367 Жыл бұрын
@@Fatsaver in Alien, its just Ripley and the cat. In aliens its just 3 people. In Alien 3, 85 survives.
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver Жыл бұрын
@@Memoryman12367 Dude Alien 3 literally OPENS with the main characters dying out of nowhere OFF SCREEN mind you. Yeah no, no one respects that.
@Memoryman12367
@Memoryman12367 Жыл бұрын
@@Fatsaver okay that was not good, but you can't hate a film for that. It's still a good film. Everyone dies eventually.
@TheMadMurf
@TheMadMurf 4 жыл бұрын
I like when people use the phrase "isn't that bad," or "not that bad," because it directly implies that (whatever is being discussed) IS bad, but just not super bad.
@Dead_Again1313
@Dead_Again1313 11 ай бұрын
Super Bad wasn't that bad. I thought it was pretty funny although a bit juvenile.
@irina1296
@irina1296 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is a very unique film, I think. It has introduced the most important and cool thing about xenomorphs - they take features of their hosts. I loved Hicks and Newt but this series is not a romance with happy ending. The acting in Alien 3 was great though
@mjjfan1104
@mjjfan1104 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the acting was superb👍
@ratlover7113
@ratlover7113 4 жыл бұрын
@@mjjfan1104 They did a good job of making you care about the characters, even the ones that weren't on screen for long. The movie's only saving grace IMO.
@dfcintron
@dfcintron Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Were people expecting them to get married, adopt Newt, and have Aliens show up on their honeymoon.
@201hastings
@201hastings Жыл бұрын
@@dfcintron I was expecting non-lazy writing.
@Trey-g5e
@Trey-g5e 26 күн бұрын
Alien 3 sucked… stop trying to defend this movie lol only decent actors were Sigourney Weaver, Charles Dance and Charles Dutton…
@TurboHawkV6
@TurboHawkV6 4 жыл бұрын
I really did like Alien3, I though the small-ish isolated cast that had to defend for themselves really worked as a horror type film (typical trope), but did it in a way that was engaging and unique. Much better than Covenant, and better than Resurrection, though I did like that movie as well, but it seemed to jump the shark a bit for the franchise there.
@scottogden8509
@scottogden8509 4 жыл бұрын
I actually liked it... the cast the set.... and it was gritty and scary compared to the 2 prior... test granted the effects where a bit shit.... but it was like a nightmare in a scrapyard
@debysteele3806
@debysteele3806 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked it too. But we're in the minority here. I think if an open mind can be kept and its judged solely on its own and not an extension of the first two maybe people would like it more..I don't know. I think it's atmospheric, depressing, exactly how being on a prison island would be. And the end scene (spoiler) is shot in a way that makes it very unsettling, and exactly how Ripley would go out. Her dying in that way fits because she would want to insure that the alien was toast.
@edvaira6891
@edvaira6891 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a train wreck...but it’s following up two STONE COLD CLASSICS...and it’s just a significantly weaker film...
@debysteele3806
@debysteele3806 4 жыл бұрын
@@edvaira6891 I kind of am in development on a theory that perhaps an empathic and/or introverted person would be more inclined to get Alien3 because it does depend so heavily on the atmosphere, on the overall feel of the characters, not so much on action. Where "Alien/Aliens" is more of a extroverts movie as it is heavy on action and the characters are busy surviving and the feeling would be fear. I haven't worked it all out in my head but this may explain why people see the same movie but walk away with different impressions. Who knows.
@ermatthe
@ermatthe 4 жыл бұрын
Aliens is my all time favorite movie and Alien3 has always been in my top 5 or 10. It was a perfect end to the trilogy. Most people just wanted more of the same formula from Aliens. But what they fail to realize is that if that movie had been made it would have been doomed to fail as well. You simply can't recapture that kind of lightning in a bottle again with a sequel. Look at the followups that tried (Resurrection, Covenant). So they took it in a different direction than expected. Killing off Newt and Hicks really angered people, but it was never their story. It was always Ripley's story so that never really bugged me (the central character and focal point of Prometheus being killed off screen between movies was much more egregious). Overall I loved the story, the characters, the tension, the acting, the music, the ending. It was a really well made movie all around in my opinion.
@pecker2-9
@pecker2-9 4 жыл бұрын
@@debysteele3806 . I re-watched alien 3 fairly recently but it was the directors cut or how it was originally meant to be seen,with extended scenes & cuts put back in. It definitely improves the overall film & makes it a more solid,atmospheric watch. I think ure right with your theory, aliens is a sit back & enjoy the ride whereas alien 3 is a deep character driven movie, asking questions about can inherently bad people be genuinely reformed into caring, does one extended bad phase in your life define who u are thereafter ect. .I thought alien 3 in its new format is a really good ending for the trilogy. Alien resurrection is definitely bad tho.
@leespiderpod
@leespiderpod Жыл бұрын
William Gibson’s screenplay version that never got made is worth a read along with the comic
@jdenoe69
@jdenoe69 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is a like a Joy Division album, it's not for everybody. They should have used the William Gibson script with the Cold War in outer space motif.
@UATU.
@UATU. 4 жыл бұрын
J.D.1989 gets +10 points for Joy Division reference.
@gdwnet
@gdwnet 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of the wild west version, I could see something like that working well in an ONeil cylinder.
@claudiogallucci563
@claudiogallucci563 4 күн бұрын
Dance dance dance to the alien
@buggs9950
@buggs9950 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of the first three Alien films. They're all so very different to each other that I've never thought to compare them. To me they're three entirely separate films which just so happen to star some of the same characters and creatures.
@balthazarasquith
@balthazarasquith Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with everything you've said. The fact they're all very different that's what makes it an amazing trilogy (I don't count resurrection lol)
@nickmesogianes4638
@nickmesogianes4638 4 жыл бұрын
Its definitely nowhere as perfect like the first two, but I love this movie. The idea of the xenomorph taking on animal characteristics from its host (dog or ox depending the cut) was awesome and that musical score was just badass. Also I loved there was no "happy" ending for anyone. I feel one way or another, Ripley and company would fall victim to the Alien at some point so I give the film credit for having the guts to kill them off.
@rooroo8767
@rooroo8767 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@3miter77
@3miter77 4 жыл бұрын
im totally with u mate ..n im old enough to have watched 2 n 3 in cinema ..it had a fantastic look, good sound, but most of all the alien itself was the very best in the trilogie with fantastic movement for the time . it was a alien movie after alien 2, ..nobody back than gave a crap about some missing plots.
@jshorto
@jshorto 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that whole concept of after everything Ripley went through she ends up on a prison planet with no firepower (Brilliant), critics tried to hard to go after this movie with negative intent.
@JohnInTheShelter
@JohnInTheShelter 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. A3 is a return to the tough, hardcore ALIEN world after ALIENS' fun B adventure. I was perplexed when I first saw it but it really stuck with me. It's not as whole or slick as the first two, but the music, art direction and photography and acting were all amazingly good. It's hampered by the script problems, and it's too bad Fincher never got a script he loved. Taking all that in, it's amazing how good it is.
@RB-vo4gi
@RB-vo4gi 6 ай бұрын
The interesting thing is that the Alien franchise does kind of have happy endings. The endings for the first two are hopeful, with the surviving crew going into hyper sleep after destroying the Xenomorph. This one just happens to have an unhappy beginning.
@wy4553
@wy4553 4 жыл бұрын
I was just so shocked when the movie opened with Newt and Hicks dead. I didn't really care for Newt but killing her off in between movies made Ripley's journey in Aliens feel so pointless. And I fucking loved Hicks, so I was hella disappointed that he was axed.
@geardog24
@geardog24 4 жыл бұрын
It feels like the executives secretly hated the franchise and wanted to end the series in the worst way possible.
@vhscopyofseinfeld
@vhscopyofseinfeld 4 жыл бұрын
geardog24 nope they were just completely incompetent and filled with greed.
@Cyberpuppy63
@Cyberpuppy63 3 жыл бұрын
When a sequel is made and actors and supporting cast negotiate for filming a part 2; sometimes Movie Studios want to play hard ball. To keep costs down or limit the influence of select actors and actresses. This sort of "divide and subvert" the past is very common in Hollywood. The easiest way is to "import" new actors or look a-likes, to keep costs from sky-rocketing. Another reason [for cancellation] may have to do with cost of a script - or politics of international movie goers. Fame has quite a bit into it as well.
@dominicamato679
@dominicamato679 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is the defention of pain... Not only does it kill EVERYONE, it kills the story
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom Жыл бұрын
and what would everyone else have done.... they would have made a carbon copy of aliens and just decided to maybe keep newt and hicks alive.... perhaps a tv spin off: "The Adventures of Riply, Hicks and Newt" .... yeah no thanks all these movies are classic to me, they dare to treat the audience coldly and that's true horror
@dominicamato679
@dominicamato679 Жыл бұрын
@DarkShroom I'm not saying they should have copied the first two movies, I'm just saying it was a bad decision to immediately kill off characters that were well established and loved from the last movie. Even when the movie gives you a new character to care about, in Clemens, he is immediately killed as soon as he tells his back story. And then Ellen is a goner when you hear she has a Xenomorph in her. The film leaves you with nothing to care about... I can't even enjoy Sigourney's amazing hair 😔
@josephmonkele5992
@josephmonkele5992 Жыл бұрын
​@DarkShroom That would be preferable to what we got with Alien 3. You seem to be confused in thinking that darkness and misery (killing off Hicks and Newt off-screen) automatically makes a movie good. Alien 3 doesn't even count for me.
@tonyfendex2558
@tonyfendex2558 11 ай бұрын
You're right!! Alien 3 kills the story HORRIBLY. The movie is total GARBAGE. No wonder "AMOST NO ONE MENTIONS" this piece of CRAP!!!!
@LiirThropp2687
@LiirThropp2687 8 ай бұрын
​@@josephmonkele5992 I've heard many people say they refuse to accept Alien 3 and Resurrection as canon. They choose to believe those films are simply nightmares Ripley is having in cryosleep. Which they very well could be. How did an Alien egg get on the Sulaco in the first place? Not too far fetched to write them off as dreams.
@benderbendingrodriguez420
@benderbendingrodriguez420 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 honestly is pretty good all things considered and I consider it underrated. The killing of Hicks & Newt tho is inexcusable
@jakethet3206
@jakethet3206 4 жыл бұрын
It’s super hard to take you seriously when you continually mispronounce “Sulaco.” And no, it’s not open for interpretation... it’s a proper name, and it’s been said on screen. You are mispronouncing it. A lot.
@Mbq-sh6bj
@Mbq-sh6bj 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm not sure how a fan could've watched "Aliens" and not picked up on the proper pronunciation. Even those of us who watched it as a child got it the first time and have remembered it since even without a recent re-watch. Maybe the narrator of this video is just an actor reading off a script written by a genuine fan.
@nathangarcia4522
@nathangarcia4522 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that as a fan mad about the off-screen deaths between movies when Alien 3 came out many people involved in the production agreed. It was a really bad decision and invalidated a great movie's climax.
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja 4 жыл бұрын
The Director's cut is actually a good film.
@Kresbok
@Kresbok 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a Director's cut, Fincher didn't have any to do for the Quadrology, it's call "Assembly Cut" it was edit on some of the production notes from Fincher, that's all... so non of the 2 cuts are there original vision for the film.
@RogeriusRex
@RogeriusRex 4 жыл бұрын
It is really good. The only major flaw was that the cow replaced the xenomorph coming out of the dog. With the dog it's a much more intimate birth. Edit - and the ending. The alien coming out of Ripley made the story go full circle.
@soupful
@soupful 4 жыл бұрын
True
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 4 жыл бұрын
That's debatable
@emilengen7825
@emilengen7825 4 жыл бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose of course it is.
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 4 жыл бұрын
I hated this movie so much.... At least Micheal Biehn stood up for himself.
@vhscopyofseinfeld
@vhscopyofseinfeld 4 жыл бұрын
Bastian David Fincer did the best he could with that shitshow. I actually really like it as a stand alone.
@echozgus
@echozgus 4 жыл бұрын
for me is just a nightmare Ripley is having while she is sleeping in the Sulaco returning home
@Kresbok
@Kresbok 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Biehn actually found out from one of his agents that the chestburster was coming out from his chest, because they saw a dummy with his rib cage torn apart, an he call them and told "no way that thing is coming out from my chest" he was sooo pissed off ahaha
@nocfenix
@nocfenix 4 жыл бұрын
@@echozgus Here is the premise for Disney's reboot.
@Maesterful
@Maesterful 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kresbok I heard he sued the producers for using his likeness
@John.Angell
@John.Angell 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to disagree with you. Garbage is garbage. "Pull an Alien 3", or killing off characters who survived an earlier move as a plot convenience is the epitome of lazy writing
@Orlor
@Orlor 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the idiocy of putting a egg on the Sulaco. How the fuck did that happen?
@ZuluDFA
@ZuluDFA 4 жыл бұрын
@@Orlor The queen pooped out one or two while Rippley was dressing up for the fight
@Orlor
@Orlor 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZuluDFA - Not sure if kidding or serious...
@Orlor
@Orlor 4 жыл бұрын
@Litshttam - The queen ripped off her egg sack chasing after Ripley. How does one drop a egg without a egg sack?
@John.Angell
@John.Angell 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orlor yeah that was just stupid. Did the queen carry it with her? That's literally the only possible way.
@bruhmab7867
@bruhmab7867 4 жыл бұрын
They killed Newt and Hicks in the most none emotional way possible, which made this movie dry and boring to watch.
@ViktorKruger99
@ViktorKruger99 4 жыл бұрын
They way John Connor was killed in the recent Terminator reminded me of this. I know ppl has some nostalgia for this movie but man, fuck Alien 3.
@johnick451
@johnick451 4 жыл бұрын
it's a masterpiece
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to Prometheus and Covenant, this movie is a masterpiece, and I like it
@brianvillatoro6588
@brianvillatoro6588 4 жыл бұрын
no
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianvillatoro6588 yes
@scottmcfadyen293
@scottmcfadyen293 4 жыл бұрын
Then you're an idiot.
@MC-yq6us
@MC-yq6us 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it 2 not a masterpiece but
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was definitely a good movie even if it did decline a little from the first two but I feel it's very misunderstood as a movie as well. I still love it's visual style.
@billrich9722
@billrich9722 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched Alien 3 more than Alien. Nothing holds a candle to Aliens but the third one was great.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 4 жыл бұрын
@@billrich9722 Yes definitely even though the first 2 were classics to me the third one is still pretty good. Probably because there were so many production issues it failed in some aspects but still a decent movie.
@matteomuscas8974
@matteomuscas8974 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is better than aliens in my opinion. What makes Aliens what it is is the nostalgia of the 80's really... The 3rd chapter stands out way more to me
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 4 жыл бұрын
@@matteomuscas8974 Alien 3 is a decent movie, I think there was just too much studio interference. But I really love the movie.
@Kem1kal13
@Kem1kal13 4 жыл бұрын
Suh-lah-co. Not Soo-la-co. Bro do you even Aliens?
@PerpetratorOfTruth
@PerpetratorOfTruth 4 жыл бұрын
Still a better movie with a strong female lead character than the dreck they're trying to force down our throats these days.
@frenchcoupon3391
@frenchcoupon3391 4 жыл бұрын
Except Alien Resurrection is a much better film.
@seanseanston
@seanseanston 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly felt that way when I watched them a few years ago, despite what people say. Alien 3 felt like a worse version of Alien, whereas as bleh as Resurrection was in a lot of ways, I at least thought the hybrid alien was kinda cool etc. and it had some decent action IIRC. Need to watch them again. Bought the Blu-rays ages ago and haven't opened them yet... I might change my opinion after another viewing, but I'm glad someone else agrees.
@ThisValiantAdventure
@ThisValiantAdventure 4 жыл бұрын
You know the studio really messed a movie up when they actually admit their fault in it’s failures. Fox eventually did just that with this movie.
@noelv1976
@noelv1976 3 жыл бұрын
And the following sequel 😂
@duckywenselcomedy
@duckywenselcomedy 4 жыл бұрын
WTF DONT YOUR VIDEOS HAVE MORE VIEWS!!! Ya'll still pulling off this shi t like it's 2011 reviews! And killing it...every time!
@vdochev
@vdochev 4 жыл бұрын
It's just posted, give it time ;)
@Artificer1911
@Artificer1911 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because the presenter is obnoxious. The only reason I watch is because the information is often quite interesting. I would watch more if they had someone else do it.
@christalbot210
@christalbot210 4 жыл бұрын
I remember at the time hearing of a concept (supposedly written by Neil Gaiman) in which the xenomorphs were a biological weapon created to battle the "Space Jockey" race. A scent provided a type of IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) indicator so the xenomorphs would leave you alone. With the Space Jockey race now making itself known (with disastrous results), Earth decides to make use of this new weapon to help combat them. As a result, Ripley is now forced to work WITH the aliens to battle an even bigger threat (and she is SERIOUSLY unhappy about that). Upon reading of this concept (I think it was in a Starlog article?), I came up with the idea of Ripley losing her IFF and having to kill some xenomorphs in order to stay alive; much to the ire of her superiors ("These creatures are FAR more important than you are!"). Just this second, I've mentally added that not only does she prove herself a great fighter, the xenomorphs actually begin to obey HER because her tactics are better (again, much to the chagrin of her superiors)! I'm now picturing her commanding a great xenomorph army. {sigh} I *really* liked this concept and was quite annoyed that it wasn't used. :-/
@Greydevil82
@Greydevil82 4 жыл бұрын
FOX. That's what happened
@steamboatwill3.367
@steamboatwill3.367 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Disney for ending their stupidity.
@steamboatwill3.367
@steamboatwill3.367 4 жыл бұрын
@suny123boy1 ) no they haven't.
@steamboatwill3.367
@steamboatwill3.367 4 жыл бұрын
@suny123boy1 ) and do you think Fox would do any better?
@steamboatwill3.367
@steamboatwill3.367 4 жыл бұрын
@Litshttam ) you would've said the same for Lucas!
@steamboatwill3.367
@steamboatwill3.367 4 жыл бұрын
@Litshttam ) ever read "Dark Empire"?
@GregBreden
@GregBreden 4 жыл бұрын
What the trailer promised was what we all wanted to see. What we got was like a knife in the guts at the time, they killed characters I felt emotionally invested in and it hurt. I've warmed to it over the years particularly after the special edition but the franchise went progressively downhill after the dizzy heights of Aliens and I can't say Prometheus and Covenant put it back on track. They're OK but bafflingly off in ways that are hard to define.
@thearchane4885
@thearchane4885 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with Alien 3 is honestly the fact that they used way too much outdated cgi that was horrible at times, they also killed Hicks and Newt for no reason. It's like if iron man was introduced into the mcu only to die before he joined the avengers. It was enjoyable, but not as memorable as the previous 2
@mjmellan
@mjmellan 4 жыл бұрын
That horrible screeching noise keeps hurting my ears, every time you play it, it's like nails on a chalk board! WHY? its nousieating.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 4 жыл бұрын
2:00, the unproduced screenplay was turned into a comic book, which is pretty impressive! It's a good adaptation to what could have been!
@OfficialAndies
@OfficialAndies 4 жыл бұрын
It's the Soo-lako (sorry to be that guy)
@johnporter9073
@johnporter9073 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That bothered me. Did he not watch Aliens?
@CGFIELDS
@CGFIELDS 4 жыл бұрын
He’s obviously not a Aliens fan & only making this video for views...Lame!
@breakfreak3181
@breakfreak3181 Жыл бұрын
There are only 2 Alien films. Same as there are only 2 Terminator films. You will *not* convince me otherwise!
@GojiraRising
@GojiraRising 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I get shit for defending Terminator Salvation, Fincher's Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) is the movie that I'll defend until the end of days.
@alexb.e7498
@alexb.e7498 4 жыл бұрын
I liked "Salvation" aswell.. it's the only one of the sequels that tried to do something different.. it has a lot flaws and is nowhere near perfect, but it's pretty good !
@petromaxskavholm9779
@petromaxskavholm9779 4 жыл бұрын
A true mess behind the scenes, yes. But I love this movie. It's a perfect ending to the Alien trilogy. Theatrical cut and assembly cut both have their strengths, and I love them both. Fincher did an amazing job. This is where the story ends for me. I'm not including that silly "Resurrection" in my Alien-saga.
@antoniobrooks474
@antoniobrooks474 4 жыл бұрын
Dear God, It’s pronounced Sue Lock Co 😭😭😭😭
@Dead_Again1313
@Dead_Again1313 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget Weavers role is this disaster. She refused to play Ripley if any firearms were used in the film (she is anti-gun). And THEN she even complains in the movie that the prisoners don't have any weapons. "Do you at least have fire?". Total liberal BS. They also had to rush production because she wouldnt shave her head again unless they paid her a stupid amount of money. Now days, James Cameron is the same way. He said he cut 15 minutes of "gun violence" from the last Avatar movie because he didn't want to contribute to gun violence. Now he lives in New Zealand and talks crap on the US having the 2nd amendment. He forgot where he came from. Remember TERMINATOR James?!
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 6 ай бұрын
They put this maximum security prison on the "Honor system"? LMAO. The worst criminals in the universe are all on this one planet and they get a slap on the wrist if they hurt or kill someone...?? Thanks, Sigourney. Right away, Alien 3 is so f**king stupid
@jacobpitsenbarger4763
@jacobpitsenbarger4763 2 жыл бұрын
it's pronounced "Soo-Lock-Oh" love your videos !
@lachieechoecho
@lachieechoecho 4 жыл бұрын
With Hollywood it seems there’s always room for, much worse! 😂
@matthewblackwood4704
@matthewblackwood4704 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is good.
@michelelyons9410
@michelelyons9410 4 жыл бұрын
I think that this movie is a perfect example of the idea that with every franchise there comes a time to stop and close the book and not produce endless bad sequels. That is something that the entertainment industry has sadly not learned.
@DrumEagle
@DrumEagle 4 жыл бұрын
Totally underestimated. It's a great and horrifying terror movie. And yes, the deaths of Newt and Hicks were no good decisions. Fincher did an outstanding and unthankful job in putting the scattered pieces of production together.
@devinharbert6071
@devinharbert6071 4 жыл бұрын
Bunch of dramas that are now famous by critics and fans of fincher himself.
@heatherdale5571
@heatherdale5571 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS MOVIE! It's beautifully shot and acted. Great cast. Brilliant ending. No sequels should have been made after it. Like Indiana Jones, there are only 3 movies. This final of the trilogy was fantastic. Unexpected, dark and terrifying.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 4 жыл бұрын
15:00, Fincher said that he rather "slash his wrist" rather than talk about the film!
@Sheepy007
@Sheepy007 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 Is highly underrated and almost as good as the original 2. It never deserved the hatred it got.
@shadowleon659
@shadowleon659 4 жыл бұрын
What is there to love about Alien 3? Both cuts are horrible.
@gdwnet
@gdwnet 4 жыл бұрын
Not a chance. Alien 2 is a 10 out 10. Alien 3 is a 4 out of 10, it has some nice bits with Charles Dance but the rest is such bollocks.
@cheddarcheese7928
@cheddarcheese7928 4 жыл бұрын
I liked A-3 more then a lot of people did.Although I remember seeing it in the theater and being disappointed..It seemed like a step backwards ..Now the one that grew on me over time was Alien Resurrection!
@Sheepy007
@Sheepy007 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowleon659 A lot. First that its not trying to be like 1 nor 2. It has it's own look, it has it's own ideas. It's a much bleaker movie by tone than 1 or 2. It's not about hope, just desperate survival. The characters are interesting. Practical effects are nice. I think a lot of people hate it, because they wanted a fairy tale ending after Aliens and this does not deliver it.
@victorbruant389
@victorbruant389 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to say that our smoothly running franchise has suddenly developed a few problems. I can only hope we are all able to pull together over the next few days until the KZbin team arrives for JoBlo Videos.
@futuristica1710
@futuristica1710 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing happened. I think it’s a good movie. Good ... bad ... it’s just opinions. So you just made a full youtube film with your own opinion.
@tonyfendex2558
@tonyfendex2558 11 ай бұрын
Alien 3 was ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE!!!!! NUFF said!!!!
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@nickducharme5104
@nickducharme5104 4 жыл бұрын
I like this movie because of the half dog alien. I did want to see other animals but we never got a zoo of xenomorphs
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 4 жыл бұрын
Xenophants
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
@AbuHajarAlBugatti 4 жыл бұрын
And Xeraffes
@xenomorphlover
@xenomorphlover 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti well if you think about it, the human version of the Alien is also a hybrid as it uses the DNA of its host to take its shape, so we actually never saw the true form of the creature...Prometheus and Alien Covenant tried to explain it with the black goo, but I don't really like those prequels and don't consider them canon...
@DrMonKz
@DrMonKz 4 жыл бұрын
ALIEN 3 it´s an Awesome movie! and more time pass more awesome it is.. an excellent final chapter!
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 6 ай бұрын
Why did Wards script have to feature a wooden planet? That ruins all credibility for the story. And then, killing off Newt and Hicks?? Both versions of Alien 3 are a big waste of time. They destroy all three main characters in Aliens. They replace Newt and Hicks with the most unlikable characters imaginable. Heck, some of them even try to assault Ripley. And we're supposed to care if they live or die? No f**king way. In the same movie, Ripley spreads eagle for the first ex-con she sees. WTF? I dont care how depressed she is, whoring herself was so out of character for Ripley. They showed absolutely no originality by making an Alien born from an ox. They had an opportunity to give us a demon-like xenomorph, complete with horns and they failed. To me, watching Alien 3 is like drowning in sewage. Its just as dumb and unnecessarily graphic as AVP: Requiem. But at least that didnt look like vomit.
@doggolovescheese1310
@doggolovescheese1310 2 жыл бұрын
That movie sucked...It completely destroyed the ending of Aliens
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 6 ай бұрын
Ikr? The hopeful ending of Aliens now feels like a freaking funeral
@shadowleon659
@shadowleon659 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is a disgrace to the entire Alien franchise, its fanbase and movie sequels. It killed off Newt, Hicks and Bishop in a half assed fashion, unceremoniously killing off Ripley in the end and last but not least, IT'S SO FUCKING BORING. IT'S NOT SCARY!!!!!
@MysteriousMiddleEast
@MysteriousMiddleEast 4 жыл бұрын
Still the best film in the franchise. And it would have been far better if Fincher could had been left alone to do his job.
@anubusx
@anubusx 4 жыл бұрын
I wish we got to see the Xenomorphs invading Earth.
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 4 жыл бұрын
That was "Cloverfield," in all of it's "low quality SmartPhone" glory.
@RevDrKillJoy
@RevDrKillJoy 3 жыл бұрын
I remember looking forward to this movie. Then I saw it. Once, I cried, and not for good reasons.
@davidluck1678
@davidluck1678 4 жыл бұрын
Alien was cloister'd, claustrophobic...but worked in that framework. Aliens was more expansive, less claustrophobic - spanning earth and the doomed colony - and worked just as well or better. Alien 3, instead of continuing that espansive progression....regressed back to a complete cloister. And was just repetitive and suffocating.
@55tranquility
@55tranquility 4 жыл бұрын
you know what -apart form killing off Hicks and Newt I actually like Alien 3 - the performances are outstanding and considering all the challenges the director faced that you’ve outlined I like it even more now. Respect to them for sticking it our and seeing it through despite all the studio exec meddling and interferance!
@xenomorphlover
@xenomorphlover 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 was my first Alien movie I saw as a child and remained to be my favourite of them all...it's the darkest of the franchise and the soundtrack is still one of the best in scifi genre...
@save400
@save400 4 жыл бұрын
same here, first Alien movie I saw and my fave
@xenomorphlover
@xenomorphlover 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti I think all 4 movies are special, the first one might be a little boring for newer generations because they are all accustomed to CG effects and fast paced action. But in the 70s, a creature like this was completely groundbreaking because it was the first time such a complex and fascinating alien world was seen in cinema (due to HR Gigers designs). For me, the music of all 4 Alien films are superb, especially the third one!
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 4 жыл бұрын
You need better taste
@xenomorphlover
@xenomorphlover 4 жыл бұрын
@@ForrestFox626 something apparently you don't have...those movies are timeless classics
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 4 жыл бұрын
@@xenomorphlover Alien and Aliens, yes. Alien 3, no.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 4 жыл бұрын
ugh.. I hate this movie; so much so that I don't even count it as canon. Alien 3 never happened.
@CorporateBillionaire
@CorporateBillionaire 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is a total garbage. It killed every important characters from the second movie in the first minute just like that stupid Terminator Dark Fate movie they fucking threw at us this year. The creature was boring and had no reason, the story was a ZERO. It was and will be the most idiotic, biggest stupid garbage Alien movie of all tims, even those dumb AVP movies were better than this smelly piece of shit movie.
@MegaArslan2009
@MegaArslan2009 4 жыл бұрын
Dark fate. Nuff said.
@Locadel2003
@Locadel2003 4 жыл бұрын
For me is underrated. I hate they killed newt & hicks, but the rest of the movie is decent. And I love the ending. Resurrection was fucking bad
@robertbeckman2054
@robertbeckman2054 3 жыл бұрын
This crap-stain of a movie is a perfect example of how bad a sequel can be. What a shit-waste of two characters: Newt and Hicks. I remember when New called Ripley "mommy" in Aliens. I wanted so badly at the end of Aliens as they were taking off to go home for Newt to get the chance to call Hicks her "dad". Does anyone else feel this way?
@bentoblaster
@bentoblaster 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is non canon in my book.
@wgbowlesiii
@wgbowlesiii 4 жыл бұрын
This movie could've been so much better. After seeing this, I'm surprised it was as good as it turned out to be. Killing Hicks and Newt was a bad idea.
@sebastianokami5312
@sebastianokami5312 4 жыл бұрын
I saw it in a local theater the opening day when I was 14. That Hicks and Newt situation was obscure for me to say the least, I remember leaving the place feeling like shit. Now it grew on me and I like it, but back in the day watching how different it was from Aliens was a bit harsh.
@WilAdams
@WilAdams 2 жыл бұрын
The moment the eggs showed up on Sulaco, the film went from a Classic Alien film to little more than an Alien ripoff film. No matter the excuses we have been given, there was simply NO WAY for those eggs to be there. Why couldn't the queen have brought them? Because she tore off her ovipositor, and eggs have to pass through the ovipositor to finish themselves off and become viable. Clearly, she had empty hands when she tore Bishop in half--so she was not carrying them. Someone once said that Spunkmeyer and the pilot Ferro must have returned to the Sulaco for supplies and that the alien which later killed them put those eggs on the ship. This does not work for several reasons. There is no mention of them returning to the ship. The alien would not have rushed off the ship, hidden the eggs in the cryo-tube room, and then hurrying back to re-board the ship so he could kill the other two. So, with no way for the eggs to be there, we start the film with a glaring flaw. A flaw it can never overcome. I did not care what else happened since there was no way that it could happen since there were no eggs.
@HeyDirty
@HeyDirty 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm weird, but I loved 'Alien³' even before the assembly cut. But I loved it even more once I saw that version. Feeling retroactively justified by points made at 14:26
@Ihatedayslikethis1
@Ihatedayslikethis1 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Loved every minute of it and it saddens me that Fincher has decided to pretty much disown the movie.
@haolekoa737
@haolekoa737 Жыл бұрын
We could have had an Alien sequel written by William freakin' Gibson. We got Alien 3. What were they thinking?
@rickbrookes9491
@rickbrookes9491 Жыл бұрын
The weird pronunciation of “Sulaco” is off-putting. Interesting enough video, but has the narrator seen Aliens? 🤨
@maxxkarma
@maxxkarma 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent movie. If you can’t see that, it is on you.
@leonmorales5744
@leonmorales5744 3 жыл бұрын
On its own is a very, very good movie, but since is not on its own but a part of a whole, it was a total slap on the face, killing major characters off screen, is like having killed Scarlet Witch and Groot off screen in Endgame or Sansa Stark in Got
@jedwilson95
@jedwilson95 2 жыл бұрын
Killing off Newt And Hicks was a big mistake, they would’ve added a strong dynamic to the plot.
@cosmoissleeping
@cosmoissleeping 2 жыл бұрын
William Gibson script was also made into a comic from Dark Horse Comics. I believe the pictures you show are from there but not credited
@MbMd14108
@MbMd14108 4 жыл бұрын
Favourite Alien movie
@CO2Giger
@CO2Giger 4 жыл бұрын
Alien 3 is a good sequel because it stays true to the franchise. These are horror movies set in outer space. Alien 3 is a depressing movie and that is what makes it so good. Alien 4 really sucked!
@MrHootiedean
@MrHootiedean 4 жыл бұрын
Love Alien 3, in fact it may be my favorite of the franchise. My only issue at the time was how they killed off Newt. I don't mind that because I think it works for the story, but right before the movie came out they released a comic book where Newt was still alive and Ripley smacked the hell out of her for some reason(I can't remember why) so I was really looking forward to that dynamic in the movie, but otherwise I think it's a great end to the trilogy.
@jasonpowell4975
@jasonpowell4975 4 жыл бұрын
That's affirmative...
@wendellwiggins3776
@wendellwiggins3776 2 жыл бұрын
Nute should have survived older and teamed up with Ripley to fight them in Alien 3 surviving for Alien 4 after Ripley died
@BingeOnThisChannel
@BingeOnThisChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I love this movie
@vdochev
@vdochev 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair I love all Alien movies (not counting the "vs", of course).
@MrBlonde420
@MrBlonde420 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!!! I love the Franchise🤘🤘🤘greetz!!
@MisterUnknown707
@MisterUnknown707 4 жыл бұрын
Even resurrection?
@vdochev
@vdochev 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterUnknown707 Yes. I admit, it's the "oddball" of the franchise, but if you look at it as a stand alone movie, it's not that bad.
@MisterUnknown707
@MisterUnknown707 4 жыл бұрын
@@vdochev Well, I personally think that Alien resurrection is an irredeemable abomination of a film. But I respect your opinion.
@vdochev
@vdochev 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterUnknown707 OK, I understand you and I agree it doesn't fit the tone of the other Alien movies. It's a bit like if Alien was in the Fifth element universe. But still, I've seen worse.
@ameliaward7429
@ameliaward7429 4 жыл бұрын
I rewatch Alien 3 more than Aliens. Aliens was just a generic action movie with a Giger skin.
@Mirandelorean
@Mirandelorean Жыл бұрын
Just watched Alien 3 for the 1st and only time. From now on, only best to stick to the first two films.
@adianpryde1526
@adianpryde1526 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted the Colonial Marine and survivor girl to be Ripley's family. Did a WTF immediately upon hearing of both their off screen deaths.
@hiddentruth1982
@hiddentruth1982 4 жыл бұрын
aliens was where the series peaked. after that it was down hill and don't get me started on Prometheus. That shouldn't even be considered part of the series.
@Fugazity
@Fugazity 4 жыл бұрын
remember alien 3 only because i fall asleep seeing it, was so bored...
@Texy88
@Texy88 4 жыл бұрын
I can only watch the alternate edit. It’s still not that great, but at least it wasn’t a snore-fest like the theatrical version is. The alternate version makes more sense than the theatrical version too.
@Strugen.
@Strugen. 4 жыл бұрын
I like a slow burn movie but when the flame burns out what's the point
@chitorichristmas8252
@chitorichristmas8252 2 жыл бұрын
The first 2 alien films were masterpieces evan alien vs predators the second one were great films
@BleakVision
@BleakVision 4 жыл бұрын
I think the direction the franchise did actually go is quite entertaining. I wouldn‘t have it any other way.
@rogermorris9696
@rogermorris9696 4 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that almost every convict was British, and the Brian Glower was an ex pro wrestler who also also had acted with the Royal Shakespeare Company.
@jasonpowell4975
@jasonpowell4975 4 жыл бұрын
A Lannister always pays their debts.....
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