Jocko Podcast 75 w/ Echo Charles: Honesty, Discipline, & Fairness. "Conversations w/ Dick Winters"

[@Pdou66]

I had the extraordinary privilege of speaking to Mr. Winters back in 1998. I had just finished reading the book and this was before the HBO miniseries was made. At the end of the book, it stated he was (at the time), living in Hershey, PA. So, I searched for his address and phone# online and got it. Anyway, I called Mr. Winters to express my gratitude for my freedom that he and his men made possible by their efforts and sacrifices. During our convo, He told me 3 things I'll never forget: #1. "There are times in your life when the most important thing you can possibly be is mentally prepared." This, he told me, was what made the difference in men who cracked under the stress of combat and those who didn't. #2. The battle on the dike in Holland was his toughest one. He called it a "real son-of-a-gun," #3 He asked me at the end of our conversation to call his dear friend Fred "Moose" Heyliger to share with him the same sentiments I had just expressed. Mr. Heyliger was not doing well physically and Mr. Winters was sure my call to him would cheer him up. Typical of Mr. Winters...he was still thinking of his men rather than himself. I can tell you that Mr. Heyliger appreciated my call - he couldn't hear to well, but he understood what I was saying. The funny thing is, although I may not be able to remember a chat I had with my asshole boss yesterday, I can promise you I'll remember those two phone conversations with Mr. Winters and Mr. Heyliger on that Spring afternoon 19 years ago for the rest of my life. The purpose of my commentary here is not meant to brag or steal Jocko's thunder. Rather, it's to share with this community some additional insights into the remarkable leader and person Mr. Winters truly was. I am a huge fan of Jocko's podcast and I hope my contribution will make this particular episode all the more enjoyable and informative for everyone.

[@raimundosilva4382]

Vai ver o mais lá e quando começa a queimar a casa dele ele me aguarde o negócio que vai ter surpresa para todos eles vou fazer surpresa para todos eles vão fazer uma surpresinha

[@carloslopez-ni4lv]

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[@thaimuayshoo1171]

That's cool Paul. Thanks for sharing your experience with Dick Winters and your insight.

[@USCgooseNYC]

"You know what a good solution to all problems is? Calisthenics."

[@arthurphiladelpho]

15:45

[@animalvigilant5091]

YES.

[@Fahad-369]

It's true for me

[@badmannerism]

What is the attraction of this Podcast? It is the only thing on the Internet, in my view, that is completely Real.

[@alex_frijolero]

badmannerism the realest

[@HippocratesBlack]

You know I had just realized today that that's why I'm choosing this over comedy podcasts throughout the day. Just getting a break from the assault of neuroticism.

[@truebornsonofliberty554]

Back to the book!!!

[@adamrollason8752]

Powerful shit

[@dayanneely2617]

Stepping back from the firing line is much like an artist stepping back from his/her piece. It's a way of self-critiquing. When you are able to evaluate the circumstances, as a leader, you're not only looking at how your element can operate optimally, you are evaluating your decisions and adjusting fire. It's so awesome to see this in leaders, rather than them making choices from a disadvantageous position.

[@cuzIambatman]

We need the episode 100 to be Echo doing a book review by displaying the ownership principles that he acquired thus far.

[@goosemcgee6247]

Jocko, just ordered your book Way of the Warrior Kid for my 7 yr old son. Your podcast is amazing. Thank you.

[@chrismercit3357]

I watched Band of Brothers all the way through three times. I have it on DVD. It IS phenomenal. I also bought your book for my 8 year-old son. I got it the weekend of Memorial Day and opened it up to your dedication to your fallen comrades.

[@philipcaughey8353]

"Strong people are harder to kill and more useful in general." - Mark Rippetoe

[@AngryOscillator]

Fair

[@AngryOscillator]

Its a shame Rippetoe is great at getting people injured really...

[@MrRic007]

Thank you guys ! Helping me through the worst of times ( even though it's nothing when you hear about the heroes that gave America its freedom) .. the relationship Jocko and echocharles aka "wet eye" is something I find funny . Couldn't be more grateful for your this podcast and for the service that was provided by the heroes unsung and not mentioned enough 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@jcodym13]

RIP Major Winters. You will never be forgotten

[@0num4]

"We have a rendezvous with destiny..." Loved my time with the Screaming Eagles. Rakkasan!

[@HealthyMBS1]

There's no other way to say this. Jocko's books and podcast are changing my life

[@electron-Volt]

02:25 "when you get an opportunity to learn from someone like this, you know what I do?" I know what you do, because when I get an opportunity to learn from someone like Jocko I do the same: listen and learn.

[@austin3084]

Timeless podcast.

[@partisanguerrilla3167]

Really gained much about the leadership aspect of this podcast. Very timely to my own application. The step back in the heat of chaos to make the clear-headed decision...awesome!

[@chrisgramling965]

im none military and jocko helps me in my work day and life in general thank you sir!

[@CiCiKensey02]

I enjoyed listening to the audiobook, "Conversations With Major Dick Winters". I highly recommend it.

[@mjoulnirmanhattanm.d.7548]

Love that all I have to type is “jocko 75” and my ears are getting after it.

[@tpnovrbeats6719]

Top 5 Leadership books Jocko has reviewed.

[@sellersgarner]

back here today - it's just for a moment while stopping by the house - but you're established as one of my top 3 non-fictional inspirations/perspective-graspers. Thank you.

[@mckdar01]

Good Evening Wet Eye Good Evening Jocko

[@jakedub20]

Love the last part of all the Podcasts when Echo and Jocko go back and forth... hilarious

[@bobojangles22]

Lets get it son! Good Evening Echo...

[@moosethebig]

Another fantastic podcast you two! Dick Winters stories always gets me. And Jocko reading them adds some kind of intangible element which adds to the story. #KingofthePause

[@lookaway8936]

Hands down, my favorite jacko podcast.

[@randalldemichel4818]

Discipline is crucial. So the means to maintain it are crucial: rest, food , some kind of security. I had a friend who was in Korea and he told me that they had to have one hot meal per day. It was crucial, tho they didn’t always get it. Without it , morale would begin to deteriorate.

[@MikkelSander]

Most wanted text excerpt: Jocko: "What is that thing called, when you have clothes? -Wardrobe!*" Echo C.: "Good thinking, Jocko!" *randomly waving a khukuri around.

[@edwardwestenhaver1287]

I saved this one for multiple listening later on

[@alex_frijolero]

Edward Westenhaver how do you save them off KZbin?

[@alex_frijolero]

Edward Westenhaver just kidding I found it

[@edwardwestenhaver1287]

Alton akabigpoppa off of podcast

[@jacobepetersen]

I love that after Jocko finishes the book, he talks to Echo while waving around a Kukri....no big deal.

[@williamswartz8561]

Jocko can you bring Navy Seal David Goggins on your podcast!? That would be EPIC!!!

[@mikedeluca3378]

William Swartz Goggins is a BEAST!!! And a no-bullshit guy!!

[@Sigfrido-xc3nf]

What an incredible podcast, my favourite by far.

[@BLohr707]

I'm listening to this on Memorial Day weekend, and 1:58:... I got a little emotional looking at my flag I'm going to fly today! Thanks for sharing this Jocko!

[@blackfishgaming7145]

7:57 He's talking about Seth Stone who broke his neck. I was his next door neighbor when that happened. Unfortunately Seth lost his life in a parachuting accident. I feel very fortunate to had met him and enjoyed conversations with him when he was not on deployment. I'd run into him walking his dog or at the coffee shop down the street from us. He was a very humble, kind and welcoming guy. RIP Seth

[@gailvolm3862]

Principled reputation earned vs.mere popularity is a worthy goal.

[@rtydingco]

This was your best episode....thank's Jocko

[@sellersgarner]

VERY glad to have "discovered" you and the podcast, Jocko. You are obviously very well-known but I must admit I'd never heard of you until your appearance on JRE. Even with my watching "military stuff" (primarily Vietnam and WWII docs, etc), I'd never seen you in "related" videos or videos suggested for me. I'm pretty sure I would remember your Col. Kurtz-ish appearance alone. Of course, Brando was weighing in at around 400lbs as Kurtz - but I'm sure you get my meaning. "Hulking" was one word Coppola chose to describe how he wished to depict Kurtz. If for some reason you detest that film - sorry I mentioned it. I'm sure you've heard people saying" it's crazy how I found you right when I needed this so much" - I happened to have "found you" just as I've gotten out of a physical/mental pit - but of course I'd be disappointed if this were the last pit I have to crawl out of in this human experience. Your words and references are quite vital for anyone at any time in their life. I've said more than intended- I've got a knack for creating TLDR's. Thank you and to the "fans": let's make sure this man is a household name.

[@marcocastro426]

jocko! echo! my daughter crrrrushed way of warrior kid in 3 hour's! shocked she so intrested in the book! did a review! guys do amazing work!

[@Compton2952]

Good evening Gentlemen. Mr. Jocko, would you consider having Don Shipley on the podcast.

[@blackbeard0074]

Compton2952 that would be cool as hell

[@rvogeljr]

Thank you Jocko :)

[@keithcostin2279]

first time seeing this podcast. love it. going to be my work out podcast from now on.

[@mistersir9993]

JRE SENT ME HERE

[@AngryOscillator]

An alien race from the future sent me here.... only, just a little late 🙄

[@DremoChannel]

Great job, listen to you all the time bro! Keep up the great work!

[@cuzIambatman]

Good evening echo.

[@blackbeard0074]

Vatansever good evening

[@themaddestlad7554]

I did a report on Buck Compton in middle school. He went on to be a very successful judge after the war. If I remember correctly he was overseeing Oswalds trial.

[@michaelrshipma]

I take a shot of whiskey every time I hear, "Back to the book."

[@Zyrexism]

good.

[@samrobertstravel]

Need to connect with one of the former SAS guys from the British TV show 'who dares wins'. Ant Middleton, Ollie Ollerton, Jason fox...

[@stacylittle6282]

would love to have met Dick Winters.

[@TheBigSot]

To the application developers instead of telling them "Detach" I tell them that I go drink some water, or walk around, but it's the same detachment 0:06:26, once you detach solutions usually come easy.

[@carpenter315]

I'd love to watch an episode with an EOD tech.

[@adamrollason8752]

Good stuff!!

[@simonelof2129]

Get Jordan Peterson on brothers! That could go DEEP.

[@cassiusclaynyc]

AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY

[@RossDixonTeaching]

Good Evening! B-)

[@Fonzarelli131]

Every time i read a book pertaining to military subject, i make the voice in my head sound like Jocko’s instead of my own lol

[@aphysique]

Bring Tony back ...Asap...loved DAT guy!!! BTf

[@StojanovskiTV]

You don't need vitamin C. Just put some lemon in your tea, or have a satsuma or oranage. If you get a satsuma/clementin you will get the natural efendrin, called synefrin. Zinc, we are all deficient in zinc, since it's in foods we don't consume often. Zinc is a major player. Just makes you think more clear and a positive atmosphere mineral.

[@elplateado0018]

6 doughnut makers/eaters have disliked this podcast.

[@elplateado0018]

Great Podcast as always. Thank you guys !

[@elplateado0018]

Great Podcast as always. Thank you guys !

[@Tanefski]

came here from Joe Rogan!!

[@MrFrank107]

"I police myself"

[@richkracing6014]

It could never be Jocko Weaklink. Missing Link, maybe. But never the weak link.

[@BLohr707]

2:32: hell yeah I want to hear that! Because I went threw what I feel is one of the last old school Marine corps boot camps!

[@LGZEE]

Bas Rutten would be a great guy to have on.

[@maxdavies5776]

Ive never seen anything more heroic than the okinowa beach landing. The water turned red with blood. They have removed the footage from utube coz its real.

[@ctaggett1234]

Working around the house with headphones on, I yell “back to the book!” Mutable times per day. Wife has no idea what I’m talking about.

[@VinnyVincenzoYo]

No fucking slack, get after it!

[@OlovMetal]

HackSaw Ridge.

[@2210ethan]

Invite Andy McNab on the podcast!

[@jardo531]

"Jocko white tea is better than Coke", if Jocko is running the taste test it will be 100% for Jocko White Tea.

[@seanrosini5476]

Hey Jocko I've noticed my own issues of working hard not smart and while I always act to fix and prevent future mistakes I do notice it's repccurance, any thoughts/advice that could help me to notice when im falling into this bad habit

[@MichaelBubbNYC]

similar issue at times - thought the OODA loop talk in the last Muster was of use here - 'working hard not smart' is a kind of tunnel vision break out of it with a feedback loop

[@realcryptc]

Back in world war 2 discipline was needed to survive. Now discipline isn't needed to excel.

[@sterlthepearl1000]

My remark about the subject of tv that enters the discussion at 2:10:03. Tv is a wonderful invention, but a terrible master.

[@dennisaston3551]

"Wet eye? You're not going to be in charge of nicknames"

[@06livefast]

get some team guys who compete in Cross fit Josh Bridges and Dave Castro

[@UnseenGhost992]

1:18:01: You know what would have happened! Hahaha

[@Motorman2112]

Hacksaw Ridge.

[@badmannerism]

Jocko takes a "break" Watches War Movie first. Telling. The fact he did not remember the name shows it was check out time.

[@kirkklug8960]

get patton oswalt dad on the podcast he was fighter pilot in vietnam

[@volcaniadread]

pink used to count as a manly color ☝️

[@volcaniadread]

"it's like 1956" 😂

[@Ragnarockalypse]

I would love to see Sam Harris on this podcast at some point.

[@Ragnarockalypse]

I think Sam is doing many things right, considering alt-right people and extreme left people seem to hate him equally, but for different reasons.

[@thebullybuffalo]

Sure, he is doing a lot of things right like not pretending muslims aren't causing a lot of problems and that the intolerant ideas of self proclaim tolerant liberals are actually quite intolerant

[@kylepalmer8730]

I honestly believe Mr. Willink dosn't read the comments posted, so who are we talking to

[@redskincaps]

jocko just picks up kukri as echo talks about intimidation..

[@FaceFacie]

Listening while working, stoping for two seconds to write this is a distraction.

[@rogerraff6823]

A leader is not honest if he is not humble, in my estimation the two exist hand in hand

[@jacobsmith5669]

1:38:40..... "Joe Rogan?"

[@TheWiseGorilla]

It's a weird dichotomy.

[@johnrobinson4061]

first!

[@billcorrigan8456]

hardcore recondo...

[@matthewmarston5149]

Jocko, I am USN Seal Devgru 6 CIA Bat 91 BUDs 895 990, Admiral 6 Kaiser Tsar Matthew Floyd Marston Romanov Windsor 2 Rothschild Rockefeller Cartier 2, tu keep track of my promotions and progress, I speak different languages

[@thebullybuffalo]

2:36:38 First time I've heard Jocko say dope