Jocko Willink Evaluates Celebrities Slapping Each Other. Will Smith and Chris Rock, Oscars.

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@sociallyhostileelement3425
@sociallyhostileelement3425 2 жыл бұрын
He can't say he was defending her honor when he's okay with her sleeping around. There's no honor left to defend.
@Adam-qs5ir
@Adam-qs5ir 2 жыл бұрын
He's likely grasping at every straw to hold on to whatever he thought he had with her.
@oneeleven9832
@oneeleven9832 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put..
@DrummerRF
@DrummerRF 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily no honor in it. But I'm his case no
@calebray4168
@calebray4168 2 жыл бұрын
you’re missing the point. We aren’t analyzing his fuckin life here Mr Perfect. It’s something that happens and ya know what, he’s got a family still and that’s worth a whole hell of a lot of chaos and embarrassment. Stifle your delusional level of judgement.
@Jonathan-Pilkington
@Jonathan-Pilkington 2 жыл бұрын
They are in an open relationship, which means they both sleep around. Regardless, it's no one's business but their own. Once you guys are older you'll understand that better.
@missy5895
@missy5895 2 жыл бұрын
"don't put these people on a pedestal, they don't deserve it" Jocko is a wise man.
@Bee-tj8gc
@Bee-tj8gc 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Jacko justified a man slapping another man, probably 50 pounds lighter than him. Over a joke whether a comedian on a stage or not. It makes feel like he slapped around privates who couldn't retaliate in anyway without getting in trouble. And now hes justifying it. It's like the most liberal thinking thing I've ever heard Jacko say. You would think he is big on freedom of speech
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-tj8gc Freedom of speech is not against individuals but government. Jada is an individual not a government or public owned property. You don't understand freedom of speech and you are using it wrongly.
@MrJkusmc23
@MrJkusmc23 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-tj8gc where did he justify it? Maybe I missed it, I'm multitasking rn.
@chrisfields123
@chrisfields123 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true. We’re all held to the same civilized standard. Anyone else would be hauled off to jail for assault.
@ibah6
@ibah6 2 жыл бұрын
haha, you needed to hear that obvious point which isn't original to start realizing that.
@josephkleimola2
@josephkleimola2 2 жыл бұрын
“Will really defended her honor. She definitely going to let him watch tonight.”
@miriades
@miriades 2 жыл бұрын
My god 🤣🤣👍🏽👍🏽
@stmarysvirus5139
@stmarysvirus5139 2 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@ahmadbukhari3350
@ahmadbukhari3350 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Jesus christ.
@pjl8017
@pjl8017 Жыл бұрын
This comment is comedy hahahahaha 👏🏽👏🏽
@adampaape6894
@adampaape6894 Жыл бұрын
Excellently said Sir...lol.
@Mark.remarking
@Mark.remarking 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in a wheelchair, if I’m in the front row at the Oscars and Chris Rock says “Hey I see Mark is here, hey Mark, the Oscars are so cheap they made you bring your own chair again, I feel your pain bro” - that’s freaking hilarious, getting roasted by Rock is a mark of honour! Be cool man.
@R0gueM
@R0gueM 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty fucking funny joke.
@marketingwithwilliam
@marketingwithwilliam 2 жыл бұрын
This is part of my thinking too, #gettingroasted especially at a formal event has historically always been an honor.🙄
@christopherwashington7668
@christopherwashington7668 2 жыл бұрын
@@R0gueM yeah maybe Rock might hire him. I know he’s at least looking to replace a few security guys.
@betobsbf
@betobsbf 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you choose a bad woman to be by your side
@ThankyouJesus81
@ThankyouJesus81 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@tobywaterpark858
@tobywaterpark858 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a bitter truth for some of the fellas but this kind of entitlement in women is waiting for us in the future. It already has started rampantly
@rn1109
@rn1109 2 жыл бұрын
Along with their trans son
@chairmanoftheboard11
@chairmanoftheboard11 2 жыл бұрын
@@rn1109 😂😂😂
@jermill9101
@jermill9101 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the mountain of money.... will ain't tupac.
@rahn45
@rahn45 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in Will Smith's shoes in that moment: In one hand he has his reputation and career, and in the other hand the side eye his wife just gave him. Imagine what kind of mental and emotional abuse the man gets from his "loving" wife that would make him toss away his reputation and career just to fix his wife's disapproving glare. If I had to guess he doesn't have a single close friend in his life, because that friend would have pushed him to divorce the woman who was destroying him as a person.
@LeeLee-ct2vv
@LeeLee-ct2vv 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on, and I think, this now "ex" friend might easily be Chris
@kennymichaelalanya7134
@kennymichaelalanya7134 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Will Smith had two things going on in his life. His career which took years to build and his "open marriage" whatever that means🙄 Jada confessed to cheating on national television with one of their son's friend. SMH.
@deanodebo
@deanodebo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 Nailed it. A man who lets his woman mess around is a shell of a man. And he shouldn’t mess either.
@Krusher_Knave
@Krusher_Knave 2 жыл бұрын
My question is this: if his wife is the center of this problem, & he's as smart & wise as he is, why is he defending her after everything? Why is his target (in his mind) Chris Rock?
@GrumpyMeow-Meow
@GrumpyMeow-Meow 2 жыл бұрын
@@Krusher_Knave I think he was unhinged by the remark Regina Hall made about Jada’s infidelity. Rock was just the fall guy.
@worldscoolestperson7672
@worldscoolestperson7672 2 жыл бұрын
In the mind of Will Smith: Jokes about his wife = not okay. Sleeping with his wife = totally okay.
@peyotefinder69
@peyotefinder69 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly it, he’s emasculated because she banged that other guy. He doesn’t know how to handle his frustration towards his unfaithful wife.
@seahawks366
@seahawks366 2 жыл бұрын
Bro it goes way more deep then about the joke or Jada sleeping with someone! Will has many problems in his life and is scared deeply! I actually feel bad for him he is definitely hurting
@Gatoradeia
@Gatoradeia 2 жыл бұрын
He prefers bald head rather than jokes
@hamatawah3698
@hamatawah3698 2 жыл бұрын
good one, next oscar"s, ok?
@Gfors85
@Gfors85 2 жыл бұрын
did you even listen to this pod?
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 2 жыл бұрын
Echo absolutely deserves to be on this podcast. Dude talks sense and makes good points. Respekt
@jsherman1503
@jsherman1503 2 жыл бұрын
Its a good combo...works well...the chenistry is right. Jocko alone would not work nearly as well; Echo is a must.
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsherman1503 I think you're right. They compliment each other.
@kerebaka
@kerebaka Жыл бұрын
He makes the conversation alive, he also makes Jocko more relatable.
@rawfotra926
@rawfotra926 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it with "it's weak. It makes him look weak". I'm a huge fan of not letting anyone live in my head rent free and control my actions.
@allyourbase888
@allyourbase888 2 жыл бұрын
Internal vs External locus of control
@ianmedford4855
@ianmedford4855 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like their marriage is open to everything except jokes....
@Concatenate
@Concatenate 2 жыл бұрын
"The nearer a man comes to a calm mind, the closer he is to strength." - Marcus Aurelius. I actually feel pity for people that show anger.
@SuperRobertoClemente
@SuperRobertoClemente 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this pop up and was like, yeah, I'm watchin'. Jocko knows all there is to know about power and force.
@jine7123
@jine7123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Concatenate I disagree. Showing anger is a healthy and natural expression of emotion. What is not healthy is to express anger in a violent manner, either verbal or physical abuse towards another living being.
@StrongPlusPlus
@StrongPlusPlus 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock stood like a rock, handled it so professionally and kept cool. Signs of a healthy, strong mind. Kudos, Chris Rock.
@KC-UT4rmAZ
@KC-UT4rmAZ 2 жыл бұрын
The opposite of Will.
@CScott-wh5yk
@CScott-wh5yk 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@aaronsmith7976
@aaronsmith7976 2 жыл бұрын
They both followed the script.
@mdfknstarboy5311
@mdfknstarboy5311 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsmith7976 yes it was he but will put a lil too much umph on it ROCK wasn't expecting that.will was wrong for that
@billmcyrus
@billmcyrus 2 жыл бұрын
And that it was staged.
@RadicalTrivia
@RadicalTrivia 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, he slapped him and then turned away. He knew that Chris Rock was not in a position to retaliate. That's just cowardly behavior.
@ajmgdaj
@ajmgdaj 2 жыл бұрын
What should he have done instead? ... Square up to him and brawl? Lol, parrots in their echo chambers. Imagine JR had said something else, what would you be saying? A slap like that is a very specific statement. It has historical precedent. Doesn't fit into modern times though...
@RadicalTrivia
@RadicalTrivia 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajmgdaj I'm saying he shouldn't have slapped him at all. If you can slap someone and turn away immediately, you were aware that there was no threat to begin with, for whatever reason. In this case, Chris Rock is AT WORK and trying to do his job.
@mburton120
@mburton120 2 жыл бұрын
Jocko the story you told about Echo when he responded "That's a pretty fair assessment" makes me want to troll Echo to see what responses he comes up with. That was classic. Regarding the Chris Rock slap incident, I saw a body language expert who pointed out something interesting. If you watch the slap in Slow Motion, Chris starts to make a fist then immediately backs off. There was a split second where Chris was going to punch Will before he restrained himself. There was also another tell that Chris restrained himself as he probably had some insults ready to roast Will immediately after he responded to the yelling when he answered "I'm not going to.. I could... no.." then looks to the side for production instructions. Chris being known for off the cuff responses probably could have eviscerated Will Smith verbally but chose not to do that. This shows the professionalism of Chris and how strong he was in that moment. Chris Rock was the man on that night!!
@zaynes5094
@zaynes5094 2 жыл бұрын
@M Burton I agree. I also saw a body language expert react to it and he said the same thing (maybe was the same guy) about Chris Rock’s body language.
@atillatekin7030
@atillatekin7030 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the exact same reason people troll James Blunt.
@KhaoticRedd
@KhaoticRedd 2 жыл бұрын
He actually said "and I'm going to"
@brycehilt858
@brycehilt858 2 жыл бұрын
When Chris Rock delivered the joke, Will was laughing and Jada was not happy and rolled her eyes then the camera panned away. My theory is Jada gave Will a look to defend her and Will had no choice to stand up bc "She cheated on him bc Will wasn't a man enough". Jada has Will by the balls from humiliating him, belittle him, and she didn't take EXTREME ownership of her actions. Will at this point needs to leave Jada to salvage whatever dignity he has left.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын
She is toxic. She thinks too highly of herself like Peggy Hill. She should be able to make fun of herself to settle her difficulities in her life. 🎩♠🎯🏁🏵💙💛🌻🇺🇸🍀
@halosrusty
@halosrusty 2 жыл бұрын
100% right dude
@avolox
@avolox 2 жыл бұрын
Yep nailed it. This was Will overcompensating.
@henkeman300
@henkeman300 2 жыл бұрын
will lost all dignity already, and all respect people have for himn as well.
@SB50_
@SB50_ 2 жыл бұрын
He likes it. He's the guy that enjoys the humiliation. It's sick bit it's a reality. Some very strange guys actually enjoy it. Will Smith is that guy.
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 2 жыл бұрын
Echo brings something to the channel that I've never seen in a partner for a presentation/video. It took a few months of watching the channel to start understanding his style, his approach - and his control in staying silent until it's time. I don't think I've met many folks like him.
@lokiprepper
@lokiprepper 2 жыл бұрын
I really like people like Echo. I get the impression that he is one of those individuals that thinks very carefully about what he says before he says it. Because of that I have never heard the man say anything stupid, though to be fair I haven’t been listening to this podcast for a very long time yet. And then on the other end of the spectrum you have people like Bryan Callen and Brendan Schaub who talk nonstop, interrupt people a lot and sound like absolute morons. I can’t stand those two.
@stonewolf7850
@stonewolf7850 2 жыл бұрын
Echo rocks. He was spot on about entitlement on Wills part.
@spasticnutcase
@spasticnutcase 2 жыл бұрын
Echo is a top 2nd chair
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 2 жыл бұрын
The good thing about Echo, and what he brings to the table, is that he often brings a completely different perspective to issues than Jocko does. The point that Echo made that Will Smith would have never slapped someone like Joe Rogan for making that joke but had no problem slapping Chris Rock, was a completely new perspective to the conversation. And, he was right.
@CSgof___yourself
@CSgof___yourself 2 жыл бұрын
@@lokiprepper schaub boils my blood. He’s like a teenager
@thedarkdade
@thedarkdade 2 жыл бұрын
This one hurt a bit . I was also Bullied like Chris Rock. The fact the taller , bigger guy struck the smaller dude is fucked up . The way Chris Rock handled it … and continues too is just on another level , planet or CLASS.
@kurt31451
@kurt31451 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Do you think he would have walked up and slapped The Rock(Duane Johnson) if he had made the joke.
@thedarkdade
@thedarkdade 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurt31451 The moment was blanked out with raw emotions . I myself have had this happen to me about three times in my life. I did stuff and dont remember much nor was I thinking clearly. That being said … I don’t think he would of dared to do this to someone bigger than him .
@KhaoticRedd
@KhaoticRedd 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 2 жыл бұрын
Smacking a smaller person is 100% ok to remind them when they are out of line, some times especially when they are taunting or disrespecting someone who can kill you. If you are weak get fit learn to fight and give respect and demand it in return or get to slapping 😂
@bryanutility9609
@bryanutility9609 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock excluded here, If a smaller person is mocking a bigger person, poking poking, sometimes they get smacked. Get fit learn to fight, give & demand respect.
@mikenoonantech
@mikenoonantech 2 жыл бұрын
Also, she just RECENTLY released the info about her hair loss on social media. So unless someone follows her social media...which I can't imagine that being a lot of people...they wouldn't know. Plus she doesn't have hair loss that bad. She CHOOSES to shave her head like that. This condition excuse is BS. She's been cutting her hair like that for years. Hell, whe she told Will in front of the world that he doesn't satisfy her and is still getting plowed by their son's friend...she had a similar hair style. He's a puppet being led around and played by his toxic ass wife.
@emmanuelking9988
@emmanuelking9988 2 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@bobleguy
@bobleguy 2 жыл бұрын
She could have rolled her eyes and shook her head. But instead she chose to challenge Will's manhood yet again, maybe as a punishment if she saw him laugh at the joke. I think at the root though, she's a deeply toxic person who was on the lookout for an opportunity to ruin his night & she got exactly what she wanted.
@darylwilson9124
@darylwilson9124 2 жыл бұрын
You imagine there's a scenario where the people running the show weren't aware, chris wasn't aware but everyone in the audience did? The audience didn't cheer that joke. You can say it's OK to make fun of her, make fun of bald people or whatever but dude, everyone knew off stage and not one person on stage did? That's the most ridiculous stretch you've made this week. Everyone knew.
@MommaARA
@MommaARA 2 жыл бұрын
I remember an interview from her describing how she walks behind Will not to be submissive but to look out for him. A Queen walks behind her King to see dangers coming at him he can't see. Too bad Will can't see the real danger is at his back.
@anon2427
@anon2427 2 жыл бұрын
@@darylwilson9124 okay and?
@deirdresheridan8223
@deirdresheridan8223 2 жыл бұрын
I think there’s a big difference between 2 navy seals getting into it and an actor smacking a comedian at an internationally broadcasted awards show. I think Will’s behavior is an embarrassment to the U.S. as a whole. As a wife, if I was offended, I would have talked to Chris rock after the show, not expected my husband to smack him around because I am butt hurt. I think Will should not have the award as a result.
@implodingllama2092
@implodingllama2092 2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee his wife had a role to play in will going up there. Especially due to the fact he was laughing to begin with.
@kingkoi6542
@kingkoi6542 2 жыл бұрын
It was overcompensation for a demasculated man
@RCityStrolls
@RCityStrolls 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. He should be stripped of that Oscar.
@Trolly.Troll.
@Trolly.Troll. 2 жыл бұрын
Slap slap slap slap slap
@BRlGADE_KINGPIN
@BRlGADE_KINGPIN 2 жыл бұрын
No offense but you are a woman. It wasn’t her place to do anything. It was Will’s place to check him man to man. And it can be two seals or two farmers. Disrespect is still disrespect.
@bambilackner
@bambilackner 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t on Chris to defend himself, it was the Oscar’s who should’ve protected him, no one should’ve been able to get that close if their name hadn’t been called.
@joeashbubemma
@joeashbubemma 2 жыл бұрын
Well, maybe in the fairy tale land of Hollywood, but bottom line, every man has a duty to defend himself at all times. Saying the Oscar's should have protected him is like like saying, I don't need a gun, the police will protect me.
@YourBlackLocal
@YourBlackLocal 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeashbubemma “Well maybe in the fairy tale land of Hollywood” He is working a job that literally has security and is being broadcast internationally, what are you talking about?
@z17seattle
@z17seattle 2 жыл бұрын
Well why the f*** would he defend himself, wouldn't you rather take a punch for a 200 million dollar lawsuit? It's not like he's going to get killed on live TV. He probably thought will wasn't insane enough to actually hit him
@mike393000
@mike393000 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is a warrior. Not everyone thinks like this. He's supposedly friends with smith and thought it would be some adlib thing.
@louissimonelli5351
@louissimonelli5351 2 жыл бұрын
Jocko certainly gave the incident a different perspective. But clearly not appreciating the setting it happened at. Mr. Rock's reaction was the best response for that moment, being aware of the setting, and thus casting an impressive light on his capability to maintain order and continue working the job through the situation. I admire and respect him for that!
@666percentfishing
@666percentfishing 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock is a strong human. He wore it, and basically it rolled off his back / cheek. It was an immensely cowardly move to do what Will did, and it proves how much of a turbulent life he has. I would hate to see the behind the scenes resentful interactions they must have. Fame won't save anyone from shit decisions and fucked relationships - as we see once more unfortunately. What a brilliant message to send to all the impressionable Hollywood fans.
@Edhooey
@Edhooey 2 жыл бұрын
True story about fame not saving anyone from anything. Fred Eaglesmith summed it up perfectly in his song "Alcohol and Pills"
@_Peremalfait
@_Peremalfait 2 жыл бұрын
Rock handled it all with class. To me it's just another example of the little guy getting singled out. If Smith slapped the guy who was "entangled" with his wife I haven't heard about it. But he slaps the guy who made a joke about her hair.
@Edhooey
@Edhooey 2 жыл бұрын
@nflallstar90 Was it an insult? Or was it a compliment disguised as a joke?? As an aside, is it OK for strong women to try to insult men? If so, why? Please discuss...
@Edhooey
@Edhooey 2 жыл бұрын
@nflallstar90 then that's on her. If you're not up to the emotional challenge, don't attend an event where part of the presenter's job is to joke on/roast all the rich and famous a$$holes in the audience.
@dorianrustik6880
@dorianrustik6880 2 жыл бұрын
check what he did behind cameras, he really saved the night.
@anewperspective247
@anewperspective247 2 жыл бұрын
What we learned here is Jada Pickett Smith is the baddest man in Hollywood, and Will is a very well trained dog. Echo saved this episode. Keep up the good work haole!
@jonathanwright4160
@jonathanwright4160 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean echo saved it?
@cammeysigfridson7609
@cammeysigfridson7609 Жыл бұрын
I hope someone reiterates a mistake you made to you in a way that makes you sound worthless too. That will be the only way you learn to stop making exceptions for yourself to make these comments about anyone. Regardless of his fame, this comment says far more about you.
@anewperspective247
@anewperspective247 Жыл бұрын
@@cammeysigfridson7609 I hope you feel as justified in your rebuking as Jada did. The shame isn’t on Will, it’s on our willingness to chew on the stupidity and suffering of others until we realize their choices and actions are best left to their relationship with God. Don’t waste your hope on my punishment, I assure you, Gods already doing his good works in my life.
@Penellabella
@Penellabella 2 жыл бұрын
Privileged is when you can walk on stage during a live award show and slap a man. Then sit back down in the front row and cuss him out.. Only to return to the stage fifteen minutes later to be given and award and make a speech acting like a victim.... If this is not privilege I don't know what is.
@RCityStrolls
@RCityStrolls 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a 100% right!
@BRlGADE_KINGPIN
@BRlGADE_KINGPIN 2 жыл бұрын
When you get to his stardom you can have that same privilege.
@Andrew-oj3pv
@Andrew-oj3pv 2 жыл бұрын
@@BRlGADE_KINGPIN “Stardom” dude acts. Big deal. Doesn’t excuse his actions
@karlspaulding1870
@karlspaulding1870 2 жыл бұрын
Well put, Cynthia.
@jaelo7496
@jaelo7496 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, because it was all STAGED.
@krislester6679
@krislester6679 2 жыл бұрын
Echo was spot on with his assessment when talking about the celebrity class: "You guys couldn't take a joke cause you guys are all sensitive and weak." #truth #micdrop
@ianmedford4855
@ianmedford4855 2 жыл бұрын
Well, at least the media is calling attention to black on black violence for a change....
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the joke part of the shoes brings the celebrities down to Earth, Will thought he was justified.
@Marty13153
@Marty13153 2 жыл бұрын
Making generalizations about a class of people is weak. So is being resentful of celebrities. It’s weak and punk. Chris Rock is also a “celebrity”.
@goldeneaglereborn
@goldeneaglereborn 2 жыл бұрын
@CHEFF pool people joke about starving children, war crimes and much worse topics. Yet we are talking about wife going bald. Please start consuming less media and learn to think for yourself
@brandone.5106
@brandone.5106 2 жыл бұрын
@CHEFF pool nah. I’m not smacking a known comedian and relative equal or higher-up for that l, but I will say something regardless of status. If someone under me, a younger brother, child, employee, etc. does that, they might get smacked, because it’s a higher level of disrespect.
@MshAhmxiO1
@MshAhmxiO1 2 жыл бұрын
Chris will "shred" them in a future stand up act. It'll be "processed" & people are going to pay him to hear it!
@KalispellBarbell
@KalispellBarbell 2 жыл бұрын
A detail you guys missed: he even prefaces the joke with “jada you know I love you”
@parkeranderson5074
@parkeranderson5074 2 жыл бұрын
Jocko: “A slap doesn’t really leave damage” Echo: “EE-MOTIONAL DAMAGE!!”
@balltillwefall8284
@balltillwefall8284 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope this is a Steven's Dad reference... if no then I spend too much time on KZbin!!
@Operation3Sixty
@Operation3Sixty 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said Jada broke him by destroying his masculinity when she blamed her cheating on him by saying "if he loved me enough, he would've known". He laughed at the joke and then turned to see that Jada wasn't laughing and she looked at him like "if you don't stand up for me, this is why I cheated". And I think this sums it up perfectly.
@believeinjesus6972
@believeinjesus6972 2 жыл бұрын
Repent to Jesus Christ “A father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God in his holy dwelling.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭68:5‬ ‭NIV‬‬ M
@cdrtej
@cdrtej 2 жыл бұрын
🏆
@thatsjohnnyt6480
@thatsjohnnyt6480 2 жыл бұрын
Really good take thanks.
@Big_AlMC
@Big_AlMC 2 жыл бұрын
@@believeinjesus6972 fuck jesus. Hail Satan!
@loveovereverything3004
@loveovereverything3004 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody else that did that would've been arrested for that. A simple assault. Rock took it like a man. I respect that.
@dirty69impala
@dirty69impala 2 жыл бұрын
Cris Rock has earned my respect by the way he handled this situation. I’m a small guy and bigger guys would always try and test how far they could go. My dad told me a long time ago, “There hasn’t been a man born that has won every fight they’ve been in. You don’t have to win but, the other guy better know he was in a fight too”. Big guys, I don’t think, understand that mind set. They assume because a smaller guy didn’t fight back it was because he “ate cheese”. Not necessarily. Cris Rock was covering himself and his family, like a man. He also covered Will and his family like a man. Will, by his actions, placed his future in Cris’ hands. That slap just meant, “I don’t care about myself, my family or, my career”. This fool committed a crime on TV with the whole world watching! The LAPD was chomping at the bit to have Cris arrest Will. Can you imagine?! Well, Cris said, “No” like a man and a friend. We have the luxury of time to analyze what happened and we still don’t realize how quickly Cris thought about and recognized the consequences and controlled himself throughout that entire situation. A true professional, a true man and a good friend. Oh, just one more thing. You mentioned how a slap can get someone’s mind right. That’s only if you’re a gatekeeper to something they consider a benefit. Same thing for buddy fights in the military. Those guys are testing each other to see if the other guy is worthy to place your life in their hands.
@RuminatingWizard
@RuminatingWizard 2 жыл бұрын
The police didn't need Rock to press charges. they witnessed the crime.
@nate9198
@nate9198 2 жыл бұрын
This is 100% the most accurate assessment of the situation i've heard. Chris Rock read that Will was probably having a hard time, so he handled it like a pro and diffused the situation even after being slapped. Chris would have never meant anything to be genuinely nasty or malevolent, and Will should have acknowledged that in the moment, but he couldn't. Chris was the man in this situation.
@tilatsiddiqui3969
@tilatsiddiqui3969 2 жыл бұрын
Helliweird staged obligatory humiliation ritual that all sellouts are obliged to perform
@tilatsiddiqui3969
@tilatsiddiqui3969 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Mr rock make big bank and smiths gained Oscar hundreds of millions status Just know that it’s all part of the satanick masonick entertainment industry agenda?
@UniUnknown
@UniUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
This guy makes the BEST protein powder by the way, JOCKO MOLK FTW!
@zeynand4039
@zeynand4039 2 жыл бұрын
Well I would have preferred if Chris punched him back. Ofcourse Chris is the better man but all bets are off when you slap a man.
@deem10
@deem10 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was more akin to the platoon example where the slap recipient went too far so they accept it without starting a fight.
@ThomasPH123
@ThomasPH123 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is missing the fact that it’s illegal to assault someone just because they offended you.
@MaestroJericho
@MaestroJericho 2 жыл бұрын
I think the other big thing is how everyone defended Will. He should have been kicked out even momentarily after that, it shows a horrible precedent since he's a household name so they let him get away with it.
@TheThetaMan
@TheThetaMan 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. To both of you all. 💯
@carlwhy
@carlwhy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheThetaMan All both of them huh?
@TheThetaMan
@TheThetaMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlwhy ☠️💀
@thegapinglotusexperience1251
@thegapinglotusexperience1251 2 жыл бұрын
Do black people have the intelligence to grasp that very simple fact?
@jdsagum
@jdsagum 2 жыл бұрын
Jocko's "turn off your phone" death stare at 22:15 CRACKS ME UP. Echo should have taken the call LOL
@adamflores4206
@adamflores4206 2 жыл бұрын
Despite getting smacked, Chris recovered his composure admirably.
@bobdobbs4592
@bobdobbs4592 2 жыл бұрын
How baller would it have been if Chris had stared straight into the camera and said, "Let the memes begin!"
@Joshua5.13-14
@Joshua5.13-14 2 жыл бұрын
Most baller move ever!!!
@Ajax-wo3gt
@Ajax-wo3gt 2 жыл бұрын
Handled it like a mature adult male, unlike someone involved...
@ShaneMcGrath.
@ShaneMcGrath. 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobdobbs4592 Or he could have roasted them even more by saying, Well that was quite the "entanglement", I'll be feeling that right up till "August". Mind you, He probably would have been punched after that hahaha
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobdobbs4592 How baller would it have been if Chris stared straight into the camera and said, "Well, we all now know Jada and Will both swing."
@luftstanza
@luftstanza 2 жыл бұрын
The analogy of platoon guys scrapping within boundaries actually applies to the implicit agreement an audience has with a comedian: you’re gonna get slapped around (by the jokes). If one of the scrapping platoon guys whips out a knife then that’s too far. Smith slapping the comedian was too far.
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 2 жыл бұрын
It also sets a precedent. Now anyone getting on stage can just say "Will Smith did it, why can't I?"
@talmorean6573
@talmorean6573 2 жыл бұрын
@@borismuller86 Tom Segura had thoughts on that. "If any of you decide to try and get up on stage I will beat the fuck out of you"
@mopnem
@mopnem 2 жыл бұрын
@@talmorean6573 that’s not what he said at all. He had a funny take on it, way to make it lame
@goodnamestaken
@goodnamestaken 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not even the moral right or wrong of it for me. It’s privilege of being so rich and famous that you feel entitled to walk on stage, slap a famous comedian for a joke you don’t like (wrongly or rightly), turning your back on the dude you just slapped and sitting back down with no consequence. Not only no consequence but he still gets his Oscar and is allowed to give a whole speech? Wtf? So rich and famous people really just get to do whatever they want. If you or I did that, we’d still be in jail.
@BlackRose3610
@BlackRose3610 2 жыл бұрын
And on top of that, Chris job was to move the show forward. It’s like will smith took a swing at a guy who’s paid not to fight back. Fucking sad dude
@brandonevans2588
@brandonevans2588 2 жыл бұрын
Seen a lot of commentary on this and I think these guys summarized it perfectly from almost every perspective, offensive/defensive and reason.
@molassio1989
@molassio1989 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Best analysis of the incident in my opinion.
@GiaGRitter
@GiaGRitter Жыл бұрын
Echo Charles is absolutely delightful and he brings out the lighter side in Jocko! I absolutely love him on the podcast. ☺️
@JG-ld4rs
@JG-ld4rs 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that we got a half hour breakdown of this by JOCKO is hilarious
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj 2 жыл бұрын
That's nothing.He did a breakdown of over one hour of how he wasn't on steroids. Jocko is awesome!
@Letty4
@Letty4 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock behaved like a class-act. I'm impressed with how he handled such a weird situation.
@DigitalDuelist
@DigitalDuelist 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he couldn't have reacted like more of a professional. True Class.
@andrabook8758
@andrabook8758 2 жыл бұрын
me too, definitely. will smith completely fked up. he should have been arrested. it happened on live TV. no excuses.
@gutenbird
@gutenbird 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock gained my respect. To not even lose his cool for one second is more than most people could do. He didn’t even tell WS off. He just kept going. All these people saying Chris is a Beta when it’s Will’s wife going around talking about having a baby with another man. That sounds like a beta. Not a comedian who still kept his comedic cool.
@gutenbird
@gutenbird 2 жыл бұрын
@@geargrinder4784 a beta like Will Smith inspires you.
@Johnnyjakebrake
@Johnnyjakebrake 2 жыл бұрын
Class act to trash talk wills wife on the biggest night of his career. Gtfoh. Comedians are not a protected class.
@Adventure-of-your-Life
@Adventure-of-your-Life 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the better takes I've heard and pure honesty. Enjoying it atm
@sonnyv8667
@sonnyv8667 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Brother Jocko, keeping it it all the way real. Thanks for your service, from my family to yours & your Brothers & Sisters in arms. May God Bless you all.
@WillEDC
@WillEDC 2 жыл бұрын
Chris pulled a Obiwan Kenobi. You here him say “ I could…” but restrained. That was a power move showing the control in which Will lacked. Now, the world is judging Will and it’s all his fault. “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
@sonnysingh2456
@sonnysingh2456 2 жыл бұрын
Agree...could have verbally innihalted Smith.
@LeroyLegacy
@LeroyLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that reference
@musikinspace
@musikinspace 2 жыл бұрын
I keep wondering if Chris Rock might have come out as on top as he did, if he had even tried to exercise his right to defend himself
@HatedNelevated
@HatedNelevated 2 жыл бұрын
@@musikinspace a slap is hardly life-threatening and therefore doesn't really warrant much self-defense other than perhaps stepping back.
@bigbossv7755
@bigbossv7755 2 жыл бұрын
Jedi Master Chris Rockenobi
@derwiederentfachtermannith3863
@derwiederentfachtermannith3863 2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t put these people on a pedestal ; they don’t deserve it “ - Jocko 🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
@DJSbros
@DJSbros 2 жыл бұрын
Im sorry is this a new opinion?
@Montrovantis
@Montrovantis 2 жыл бұрын
@@DJSbros No, but to NPCs wisdom has no value until it comes from someone they've put on a pedestal. So common sense and established wisdom is ridiculous until it is expressed by someone they idolize, where it becomes profound. Understand the NPC and then understand you're surrounded by them and then understand that's why the plandemic succeeded and why the west is collapsing. It's all simply because they are incapable of thinking for themselves.
@baseballhaha
@baseballhaha 2 жыл бұрын
Says Jocko, who’s tried his entire life to put himself on a pedestal
@JacopoSkydweller
@JacopoSkydweller 2 жыл бұрын
@@baseballhaha Not the same. Jocko didn't become famous by pretending to be other people for a living. He's actually got experience to pull from, isn't living in an ultra wealthy echo chamber bubble like Hollywood.
@Fierology
@Fierology 2 жыл бұрын
@@baseballhaha Each person should unceasingly strive to be worthy of a pedestal, but if the pedestal becomes the goal then the striving is in vain.
@mikebasil4832
@mikebasil4832 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for helping us all to put this very unfortunate event into a most appropriate perspective.
@Polysthenes
@Polysthenes 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need others to think for you?
@omarbriones2453
@omarbriones2453 2 жыл бұрын
These analyses are on point. Well done!
@ATMGB12
@ATMGB12 2 жыл бұрын
“Don’t put these people on a pedestal they don’t deserve it.” - Jocko Well said
@ABC-dw7pe
@ABC-dw7pe 2 жыл бұрын
That goes for 98% of Hollywood tbh
@sakuraa2008
@sakuraa2008 2 жыл бұрын
Only Jesus deserves the pedestal. 🙏
@sakuraa2008
@sakuraa2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@ABC-dw7pe including me and you
@sakuraa2008
@sakuraa2008 2 жыл бұрын
You too austin
@JR-ju3kj
@JR-ju3kj 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. I love movies but I'm not into celebrity worship and I'm not into putting them on a pedestal.
@TikkyTakMoo
@TikkyTakMoo 2 жыл бұрын
When Will yelled at him the second time and Rock says "Man I could..." and then just continues on - he's a professional comedian, he could have annihilated Will right there. I'm betting a thousand punchlines (lol) were going through his head. For comedians, comedy is often their way to defend themselves. He took a civil, non impulsive approach though; revealing the true nature of his comedy as well as comedy itself these days. Controlling impulse is one of the "keys" to living effectively.
@CharlieTWilbury
@CharlieTWilbury 2 жыл бұрын
That's what a real man does. A simp jumps at his wife's commands and then cries later.
@angiev1840
@angiev1840 2 жыл бұрын
After what Jada has been publicly saying about something as private as their sex life, Chris could have gone for the throat. I totally agree that he had a whole list of really cold comebacks in his head and unlike Will, he used restraint because it would have been inappropriate to go there---understandable, but not appropriate.
@dominicvioli7098
@dominicvioli7098 2 жыл бұрын
He's a fkn has been washed up back. Making gi Jane jokes in 2022
@alberttang6955
@alberttang6955 2 жыл бұрын
Will Smith : "Keep my wife's name outta ya f**king mouth!" Chris Rock : "How about YOU keep all those other dudes outta ya WIFE'S mouth?" At least that's how I imagine it going. Then Will Smith charges back on stage, tackles Chris Rock to the ground, and proceeds to pound on him until security and an assortment of actors pull him off.
@notoriousviolator5111
@notoriousviolator5111 2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieTWilbury it’s funny how will smith in most of his movie rolls he like a player but in reality a simp 😂
@patrickscott2914
@patrickscott2914 2 жыл бұрын
Echo, you are the man and bring a lot to the pod! Can't imagine it without you! 💪👊
@MrThedocholiday
@MrThedocholiday 2 жыл бұрын
The best reminder for me from y’all is to be strong with self control. Thanks again guys!
@SalStylesAnimals
@SalStylesAnimals 2 жыл бұрын
We live in a time when words are violence but actually slapping another man for a JOKE is an acceptable reaction from a grown ass man.
@eljefe2176
@eljefe2176 2 жыл бұрын
Shit happens it’s called life.. wtf do yu want ppl to do rewind time
@zanizone3617
@zanizone3617 2 жыл бұрын
@@eljefe2176 the point is the ass backwards reaction everybody had. Not the slap itself.
@sync7445
@sync7445 2 жыл бұрын
@@eljefe2176 Exactly… everyone acting like this one slap is changing the direction of society. Such a joke. You can tell these people have never been in an altercation in their life.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 2 жыл бұрын
Imo the slap was a way of saying “stfu” rather than “I’m straight up gonna beat beat you up”. So it’s not really violence but more like a warning.
@Overcome808
@Overcome808 2 жыл бұрын
@@fifteen8850 When you're a public person that people look up to and emulate and at a formal event. You don't do that. If you're a real man, you wait until after the dude has done his bit and have a talk( or a fight , if you're that pissed) and solve it. This isn't supposed to be some outside of the bar type of thing. Also don't laugh at the joke and then look at your girl and have her tell you what to do, that's pussy type behaviour.
@geovishap2277
@geovishap2277 2 жыл бұрын
" I"ve slap people before and had them stand down " Legend has it that the people that Jocko slapped are still down up to this day.
@samgibson684
@samgibson684 2 жыл бұрын
So we gonna pretend jocko wouldn't knock your head off with an open hand slap....lol 😂
@jj-wp6wc
@jj-wp6wc Жыл бұрын
Good points. I also think we live in a society that is so hyper sensative today, that many people are unable to 'take a joke.' In many ways, comedy is about revealing our defects, stereotypes, and many sensative issues, and bringing in levity to cope. Comedy helps us loosen up a bit and NOT take life so seriously. Comedy can be nurturing but unfortunately, not anymore.
@corynorell3686
@corynorell3686 2 жыл бұрын
I thought most of the same things you gentlemen did. Well said. One thing I’ll add is all these celebrities who claim to be anti-violence - and are the loudest voices virtually all the time - stayed absolutely silent.
@michdo23
@michdo23 2 жыл бұрын
The problem i have with this is: Every other regular person would have been escorted out of the building by security. The fact that Smith casually walks back to his chair and sits down shows, that he KNOWS no one will touch him. These fuckin out of touch millionairs are so seperate from regular people that they don't even know how to behave anymore. And another thing: Keep in mind that everyone in that room is a trained, professional actor. Every smile, every frown, every move is from a world famous actor. For all that i know it could be fake, or not. I don't know i don't care. I really don't give a shit about celebs and the Oscars anymore. To me it's close to a fuckin cult.
@roelven1282
@roelven1282 2 жыл бұрын
we get taught we have more privilege then everyone else (Im white, wife black and 2 kids)... But if I did what Will did on stage, i would still be in Jail... THATS what real privilige looks like.
@andrewmartin6217
@andrewmartin6217 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely fake.
@barrymccokiner2779
@barrymccokiner2779 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Trump smacked Chris rock lol
@davidoftheforest3822
@davidoftheforest3822 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood? a cult? you mean like with Satanism and pedophilia? maybe an island owned by a dude who definitely didn't kill himself?
@jaca3538
@jaca3538 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I kinda feel its simpler than that. Its bystander effect. Everyone frozen from not knowing what to do and not wanting to stand out agaisnt others. Same shit that happens in street fights or house fires, road accidents.
@makita883
@makita883 2 жыл бұрын
Chris definitely played it spot on… he shook it off and did his job like a pro. Smith went into some ugly space and really looked like a chump for it.
@andrabook8758
@andrabook8758 2 жыл бұрын
what I liked the most is that he was literally off-balance both in his emotional state and the execution of the slap. LOOOOL!
@usaf1804
@usaf1804 2 жыл бұрын
He slaps like a b….
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia 2 жыл бұрын
Will stole the moment in the sun for Venus and Serena the same way Serena stole the moment in the sun for Naomi Osaka.
@makita883
@makita883 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhantomFilmAustralia No…Will stole his own moment. This should of been the best night of his life. But because he lost control he made it the absolute worst night of his life..!!
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia 2 жыл бұрын
@@makita883 He also stole it from everyone involved in every film and every member producing the ceremony. If only Will watched the You Tube clip, 'I Was Offended' by Steve Hughes. It would have really helped him out. Come to think of it, it should be mandatory viewing for everyone.
@sophiajohnson296
@sophiajohnson296 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually real good. Nice stuff you two
@austinmitchell5930
@austinmitchell5930 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the camera pans back and forth for every word or sound uttered around @12:30 lmao
@darthvader4867
@darthvader4867 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a law enforcement professional for 16 years; and last year I went to a domestic violence service call. This little dude had beaten the shit out of his girlfriend in front of their kids; the dude was talking major shit; I was pissed, but I didn’t show emotion. Then when it was time to arrest the guy for domestic violence, I used as little force as possible to apprehend the guy I had to arrest. The dude got hit with a taser and he went to the hospital to get the prongs out of him and then he went to jail. So Let people talk shit. Don’t take shit talking personal. You’ve got a job to do. Your job is to be a decent human being every damn day. Put your poker face on and just be the bigger person. Don’t be weak. Don’t let words hurt you. You have a choice on allowing bullshit to hurt you or to simply ignore it. Go to therapy and learn to control your emotions.
@slabbusterrtr7690
@slabbusterrtr7690 2 жыл бұрын
Yep look through history best law officers legends u might say reason they were good at it and most for along time u gotta keep your cool no matter how pissed u really are
@Thizlamic
@Thizlamic 2 жыл бұрын
Apples to Oranges you're a cop.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx 2 жыл бұрын
This works sometimes but you have to exert your force once in a while. Humans have been doing it FOREVER
@enshk79
@enshk79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story, sir! I always hear that domestic calls are the most dangerous for you guys. I’m glad you’re a true professional and aware of your situation and surroundings. I wish you nothing but the best. We need more officers like you!!! You represent the best of us all.
@kaffraraffin3574
@kaffraraffin3574 2 жыл бұрын
big respect to you, sir!
@Kaijutopia
@Kaijutopia 2 жыл бұрын
Echo is one of the most authentic, down-to-earth guys I've ever listened to. His discipline is admirable and beyond inspiring. When he speaks, you know what he has to say is relevant and essential to the conversation.
@fiscolorado656
@fiscolorado656 2 жыл бұрын
He represents the guys outside of the military and asks insightful questions from time to time because the people that are in the military just assumed that we know what they're talkin about.
@onesadtech
@onesadtech 2 жыл бұрын
@@fiscolorado656 as a dude with no military background, you NAILED how I feel about Echo. He's got a really interesting non-military background, and asks a lot of questions that I am thinking while listening to the podcast! He adds so much to this podcast for us, and the fact that Jocko encourages him to speak so freely is so refreshing.
@michelangelo4483
@michelangelo4483 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao is this your first podcast of jocko ever? Why do people keep pointing this out? Cause he’s African American? Cause he’s a gym goer?
@robwoodring9437
@robwoodring9437 2 жыл бұрын
"Running your succ" that phrase is now part of my full-time vocabulary. Thank you Jocko. Heartfelt.
@Kevlar_soul
@Kevlar_soul 2 жыл бұрын
Best book I read on this subject “ when I say no I feel guilty”. Talks about taking criticism and how to handle conflict
@amandasmith8194
@amandasmith8194 2 жыл бұрын
As a woman, I think this is why I love listening in on men’s conversations. There is something so fabulous about men who can be bronze on the outside (strong, tough, protective), and yet a comedian on the inside. Knowing when to is use each part of yourself and not taking yourself too seriously. I agree, humour is such a better response.
@Bee-tj8gc
@Bee-tj8gc 2 жыл бұрын
It's dumb advice to say "talk smack get smacked" Especially with strangers In a country where anyone can say what they want and carry a gun... This is not good advice. And Jacko along with other US veterans with KZbin channels are predicting the Russian war totally wrong And also lost in Afghanistan
@Garblegox
@Garblegox 2 жыл бұрын
I woke up this morning, knowing all my subscriptions would be talking about this story. But when I saw Jocko and Echo, I knew this was all I'd need. If anybody knows about balance it's Jocko.
@francoisnel5253
@francoisnel5253 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot more underlying to this situation though. Wills's wife was disrespected and dishonored by having a relationship with one of his son's friends. And didn't even allow him freely express his emotions about it. She's clearly a narcissist and doesn't care as much for him as he does for her. He's probably so sensitive to her emotions running the show and knows how hurt she was about her hair loss, so seeing her reaction he felt needed to defend her somehow as she'll probably find fault with his response afterward making his life hell or using it to cheat on him again. So he's in a difficult spot.
@tommydaniels1805
@tommydaniels1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-tj8gc 23:38 He readdresses this at the above time. You are listening and commenting negatively like you are the voice of reason here. At least listen attentively and be fair; he isn’t promoting violence or suggesting what Will did was the correct action. He is however stating the truth. Sometimes people respond to words not with words but with actions; including violent action.
@yuriboyka6131
@yuriboyka6131 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-tj8gc you sound like somebody who doesn’t understand the omniscient perspective
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Rock (with regards to defending yourself) he probably thought Smith was gonna grab him by the jacket or pretend to strangle him etc. So he was leaning forward, ready to play along.
@TheWelchProductions
@TheWelchProductions 2 жыл бұрын
So being ready to play along counts as self-defense?
@BGIANAKy
@BGIANAKy 2 жыл бұрын
Or. It was staged to bring attention to them.
@teshomacalkins3257
@teshomacalkins3257 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not staged
@wanderer1857
@wanderer1857 2 жыл бұрын
No I thought he was leaning forward since he thought Will was going to come up and have some witty banter. Which would be reasonable since Will is sort of a comedic actor and has a history in rap.
@chc2650
@chc2650 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the entire thing was staged, the dude literally won BEST ACTOR AWARD
@kingwilliamiii8897
@kingwilliamiii8897 2 жыл бұрын
Echo breaking every time Jocko says "runnin' your suck..." is hilarious. 😆
@derekhudson9599
@derekhudson9599 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you JOCKO!!!!! Speaking direct, clear and rational. As always, on point.
@EarthlingsHello
@EarthlingsHello 2 жыл бұрын
Echo is SO perfect for his role. He’s intelligent, thoughtful, not boastful and adds so much to the conversation. People who can’t appreciate that are basically meat heads.
@michelangelo4483
@michelangelo4483 2 жыл бұрын
Or a woman
@OwnedByTheState
@OwnedByTheState 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, Echo is also a meathead. An enlightened meathead, if you will.
@EarthlingsHello
@EarthlingsHello 2 жыл бұрын
@@OwnedByTheState haha
@jlupus8804
@jlupus8804 2 жыл бұрын
Foils are underappreciated
@JohnDoe-ff2fc
@JohnDoe-ff2fc 2 жыл бұрын
He's the Ed McMahon to Johnny Carson.
@ReallRoach
@ReallRoach 2 жыл бұрын
Echo brings a perfect balance to the podcast. Without him, there's no equilibrium.
@DigitalDuelist
@DigitalDuelist 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Echo is Zen, Jocko is Agro.
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But I find Jocko doesn't allow Echo to speak enough and often cuts him off, which I find unfortunate.
@ystconnection
@ystconnection 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, if the podcasts were an experiment, then Echo would be the control group 😂
@rigelb9025
@rigelb9025 2 жыл бұрын
@@YearsOVDecay1 That is very possible, I've never seen or heard him before. I was speaking of this particular podcast.
@MasculineIdeal
@MasculineIdeal 2 жыл бұрын
Get off your knees boys
@timvanderkamp1387
@timvanderkamp1387 2 жыл бұрын
Keep control of your emotions. I was thinking this after I watched this all go down. I thought - here is Will Smith talking about wanting to be a leader and he ruined all of that to get in a slap. Leadership capital - destroyed. Like Jocko said, he could have walked up there after winning, got the mic, and talked about his wife's struggle and making fun of it, and destroyed Chris Rock. But instead, he lost control of his emotions and all he got was a slap out of it. No only that, but this was the PINNACLE of Will Smith's career - this award, and nobody is ever going to remember that. All they will remember is he slapped Chris Rock. Bad use of leadership capital. The ONE thing i have learned from this podcast, and Jocko and Echo------ that I did not have a good handle on----- is you've got to keep control of your emotions at all times or you miss opportunities, destroy your leadership capital. I work so hard now on keeping my emotions in check all of the time, and taking note of the times and instances where I tend to let my emotions get going and watch for them. Thanks Jocko and Echo. Great commentary. Very well balanced.
@mrcamp856
@mrcamp856 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you awesome podcast Mr. JOCKO!
@nyChannel09
@nyChannel09 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this: 1. Will smith doesnt get up to smack him or say anything. 2. He doesnt know, hes gettin an award. 3. He gets called for the oscar, then he can verbally say how tasteless the joke was, and explain about his love for his wife depsite alopecia. 4. That just shows, dont act out on stuff like that, you are going to get a chance, where youll stand there like ur the victor.
@woydzeck2
@woydzeck2 2 жыл бұрын
It literally looked like pure entitlement. Now, for all of those that are praising Will for "defending his wife", imagine if it was Brad Pitt slapping a black comedian and walking away so sure like nothing could happen to you.
@iLovedWhatiHated
@iLovedWhatiHated 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thank you!
@galeanascatering
@galeanascatering 2 жыл бұрын
🤯
@acecool72
@acecool72 2 жыл бұрын
They would cry about racism all week long
@captainstarman8724
@captainstarman8724 2 жыл бұрын
Why you making this about race?
@jamesdiamond820
@jamesdiamond820 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if he bitch slapped the guys that were having an affair with his wife
@robertbarnum7541
@robertbarnum7541 2 жыл бұрын
When you're a strong man. You are tolerant of someone weaker. When you are more than a strong man, you have mercy.
@ericjones9471
@ericjones9471 Жыл бұрын
This is the best analysis EVAR on this topic!
@naturewithjoe
@naturewithjoe 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Time to practice lipreading
@Mozenator
@Mozenator 2 жыл бұрын
No Audioooooo
@MobbJacket88
@MobbJacket88 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so it's not just me.
@brandonwayne2343
@brandonwayne2343 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Eng_Simoes
@Eng_Simoes 2 жыл бұрын
That's tactical conversation, a common Seal Teams practice.
@kimosabbe50
@kimosabbe50 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eng_Simoes 😂
@gheranyarramansteel5608
@gheranyarramansteel5608 2 жыл бұрын
Will has some issues. He did an interview awhile back talking about how he feels guilty that he never defended his mother. The joke? It was a joke saying she looks like a strong female heroine (gi-jane). What a champ Chris Rock is… took the king hit like a man, kept the show rolling and smiled smoothly and acted with complete professionalism. Respect!
@ljguy300
@ljguy300 2 жыл бұрын
It was staged
@sebastianmosca5985
@sebastianmosca5985 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao L mentality
@Boris82
@Boris82 2 жыл бұрын
Will definitely seems to have some issues. In his 6 minute speech after the slap he started to cry Infront of everyone. And to those that say it was staged, show some proof for your claim.
@17MrLeon
@17MrLeon 2 жыл бұрын
He pointed out her hair in front if whole world with cameras pointing at her humiliating her for her disease. Absolutely justified smack.
@mpayne8206
@mpayne8206 2 жыл бұрын
@@17MrLeon I wonder if she's never worn a hairpiece or weave before? My point being if she has and she's that insecure about it why not do what a large majority of black women do and wear (whatever they are called). She's lived a very luxurious and as far as I can tell cooshy life (more power to her). So it just seems a little thin skinned too be so offended my joke that wasn't meant to be malicious. I don't know much about the alopecia, but I'll go out on a limb and say it's not like she has leukemia. A large part of the rest of the world has had to eat s*** sandwiches their entire lives, but they're going to act like that because of a joke while sitting at the Oscars? Give me a break. also if I'm not mistaken she's had her hair super short like that before so it's not like it was that far out of her comfort zone.
@gregphilipmusic
@gregphilipmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you guys there were some good interesting fresh ideas coming forth here.
@MatheoGalatis
@MatheoGalatis 2 жыл бұрын
Very grounded perspective Jocko! Respect for your balanced and real way of thinking.
@DadPoolReturns
@DadPoolReturns 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow introvert, I can appreciate Echo's style. He's the perfect compliment to Jocko's extroversion, during which he works his thoughts out in real time. This allows Jocko to mainly carry the conversation and Echo to substantiate and fill in on certain points where needed and makes for a more engaging podcast. This dynamic is highlighted at 4:00 when Jocko asks Echo to validate whether his point is solid and again at 4:50 when Echo interjects to offer clarification. Edit: also at 25:00 when Jocko concludes working his thoughts out in real time and Echo chimes in with his thoughts that had been percolating the entire time and the conversation continues for 8 more minutes.
@mr.crowgamer6250
@mr.crowgamer6250 2 жыл бұрын
Well done 😂😂
@dontbugme7362
@dontbugme7362 2 жыл бұрын
Echo is excellent partner in these podcasts
@johntaranto29
@johntaranto29 2 жыл бұрын
Is that when he said Will slept around too? I felt that needed to be said.
@bernardwinkletoes4981
@bernardwinkletoes4981 2 жыл бұрын
he's a cool cat for sure
@ianjohnson3770
@ianjohnson3770 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryvandevort2366 I can appreciate Will maybe needing to check Rock, but the manner and place he did it was inappropriate. Walking up in the middle of a presentation with hundreds of people there and millions watching wasn’t the right time. He should have approached Rock after the show, or maybe said something in his acceptance speech
@momfluent5367
@momfluent5367 2 жыл бұрын
A woman who loves and respects her husband wouldn’t of put him in that position to begin with. Wills reaction came from years of being emotionally abused and kicked down by his wife. I feel incredibly bad for him. Kudos to Chris for making it light hearted and moving along. For a comedian, that was incredibly mild.
@mrbigs4463
@mrbigs4463 2 жыл бұрын
She would’ve stopped em
@chrismartin5870
@chrismartin5870 2 жыл бұрын
Really liked the way Jacko didn't get his knickers in a twist when Echo's mobile rang. Talk about practice what you preach. Nice job.
@worldscoolestperson7672
@worldscoolestperson7672 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao @ 22:15 it took Jocko less than half a second to give off the murder stare when that alarm went off
@epicon6
@epicon6 2 жыл бұрын
22:28 From Rock's laugh you could tell that it was a laugh that telegraphed that he 100% thought that Will was walking up to him like he was in on the joke. He saw Will's face being all serious but he had no clue there was a slap coming because he still had respect for Will and thought this man is such a nice guy that when he gets close to me he is going to laugh and maybe like headlock me as a joke. But when the slap went down he was like oh damn. What the hell is wrong with this guy..
@spaceman6029
@spaceman6029 2 жыл бұрын
he had his hands behind his back and sorta leaned into it too, he def wasnt expecting to get slapped like that
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 2 жыл бұрын
You can hear him go 'Oooffff' as he slaps him too. Nothing would surprise me about these people but I dunno.. I don't think it was staged as alot of people think. If it was ... worse thing they coulda done. Smiths own colleagues are calling him to be arrested, saying its toxic Masculinity. I don't see anything good coming from this for anyone.
@hyseptu1733
@hyseptu1733 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock showed amazing restraint on several levels. As soon as Smith sat back down Chris could have lit him up with off the cuff jokes and comments. The dude is a professional comic and he could have started treating Smith like a heckler at a show and DESTROY him on the spot.
@precisiondiesel225
@precisiondiesel225 2 жыл бұрын
Will is known for being slap happy. He has slapped many people for shit like this. Will is a pos.
@aaroncrandal
@aaroncrandal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he didn't write that joke and didn't have a reason to expect a mentally will actor to walk up and assault him
@hifitt310
@hifitt310 2 жыл бұрын
This incident perfectly encapsulates the culture we live in now. Chris Rock was doing his job, got slapped for it, and people are making excuses for Will Smith, who not only won an award afterward but got a standing ovation. That joke didn’t warrant anything. Talk it out privately like a grown adult if it stung so much, or better yet move on and enjoy your wealth and fame.
@rororidley5829
@rororidley5829 2 жыл бұрын
Just like poll workers getting death threats.
@ALL_CAPS__
@ALL_CAPS__ 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@ZEBEEtheoriginal
@ZEBEEtheoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Rock insulting this woman for 25 years is not doing his job. Yes, the responses encapsulate this culture where BM, especially, have been trained to humiliate their women and are rewarded for it by the mainstream culture. See "Big Mommas House", "Everbody Hates Chris", Norbit, ShaNayNay, the list is endless, but because this seemed to have been done on behalf of his wife, whom Chris has been roasting for 25 years to Will's chagrin, the mainstream and BM incels push the lone argument that he's just a comedian. No. These people have known each other for decades and Chris Rock was told years ago when he did a hair documentary, how much he hurt the women group whom he humiliated, yet again, using their identities for mainstream humiliation, attention and $$$$. It was and is deeper than, "He is a comedian".
@peacefulnatural
@peacefulnatural 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, people have a twisted sense of justice today. It would always be the ones that cries/angry/ gets offended that's "right". All other moral compass fails in front of it. E.g. Doesn't matter that Palestine was the one that shoot missiles to civilian suburbs in Israel. Its always poor palestine, israel the big bully. Just because israel doesn't use their own civilians as body shields.
@DoubleDash28
@DoubleDash28 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the problem they have so much wealth and fame they need things like this to keep them occupied.
@shanedemorais7397
@shanedemorais7397 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that I think is missing from the points made in this talk is the unspoken granting of permission. As stated if fellow platoon members get in to a disagreement, they step behind the shed and, with permission, go at it. Same thing in a family dynamic. If a brother is teasing another, and the other is beginning to take offense, usually a warning is issued. The teaser understands that if he keeps going, the unspoken permission is they go at it. Same thing in a dojo (or such). If members are getting on each other's nerves, they can go on the mat and go at it (as the bow signifies permission). For an event such as the Oscars wherein the primary host is a comedian, it is accepted that jokes may be made that you disagree with. BTW...Other comedians that spoke to Rock later that night stated that that joke was handed to Rock by one of the writers - source KZbin Channel Joke WRLD - and I suspect the writers were going for a Ricky Gervais vibe with it). At a comedy club you have the right to leave. You also have the right to engage as a heckler. However, if that escalates, security usually gets involved and you are ejected as you do not have the right to get physical. What Smith did not have here was permission to walk up on stage and slap Rock. Which is why the police were involved as they deemed it "Assault and battery". Also note Smith is the larger build by far. That's an important POV. I doubt the fellas in the talk would walk up to a guy a 1/3 their size and slap them for that joke, I suspect they would have issued a warning. Seems honor would dictate that behavior. So...Permission...there was none in this case. My $0.02. Thanks for coming to my TedX talk!
@djamel-arbouche
@djamel-arbouche 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting analysis, thanks!
@tylerdavis307
@tylerdavis307 2 жыл бұрын
First i just wanna say i very much respect and appreciate and like the perspectives you(Jocko) and Echo have of this scenario and the feedback of what to do and how Chris Rock went/shoulda went about it, also how Echo explains the scenario of making a joke to a female with the husband/man there is smart and something to think about too. Definitely think Chris Rock still rocks hope Will Smith gets better.
@Grizz5858
@Grizz5858 2 жыл бұрын
All I can think about when Jocko said, “I’ve slapped someone and they backed down” is, “yeah no kidding, dude probably forgot his own name”
@Kate98755
@Kate98755 2 жыл бұрын
pissed himself probably
@Levi_Allen
@Levi_Allen 2 жыл бұрын
No cap
@cgates2
@cgates2 2 жыл бұрын
Threw his wallet at him
@mattjosh69
@mattjosh69 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so surprised no one has picked up on the moment Chris stoped himself from saying all the come backs going though his head, when he said ” I could “.
@clos122
@clos122 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that too. They jokes in his mind must have rushed in so fast. He did hold back. Maybe he didn’t want to get slapped again. Lol
@tjwallace3140
@tjwallace3140 2 жыл бұрын
Dam i just found this channel this dude is amazing
@Kevin-ui8cz
@Kevin-ui8cz 2 жыл бұрын
How could Chris have any clue that he would be smacked while standing on stage at the OSCARS! No chance a single person ever would think they needed to change their stance to account for someone hitting them while they were on stage at the academy award show. It’s absurd to apply any normal-life logic to this situation.
@stevenswisher4339
@stevenswisher4339 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but anyone's who's been on stage would know those lights are bright as hell. He was most likely leaning forward to see what exactly will was doing, then bam the smack.
@johne.2096
@johne.2096 2 жыл бұрын
Me: no audio Jocko: good
@kt2906
@kt2906 2 жыл бұрын
When you said that it felt like entitlement, that’s exactly what is bothering me about this situation. Will Smith was asked to leave and he refused. He’s not sorry, he partied afterwards like nothing happened. It’s celebrity privilege.
@fitawrarifitness6842
@fitawrarifitness6842 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@yellowleaf28
@yellowleaf28 2 жыл бұрын
Mm, I think it was just a move on his part trying too hard to pretend like everything was ok, but he definitely noticed nobody was dancing with him, just separating themselves from him with their phones, also pretending they were having fun instead of subconsciously creating as much distance from him as possible.
@javongreen2515
@javongreen2515 2 жыл бұрын
Well they claimed he was but it’s come out now that they fabricated that Whoopi goldberg briefly touched on it during her coverage, they never even asked him to leave which is even more egregious.
@thinkingagain5966
@thinkingagain5966 2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowleaf28 reaching
@user-xz2nz1wi9h
@user-xz2nz1wi9h 2 жыл бұрын
@Tony G Black on Black crime is not a privilege, it’s an intellectual setback.
@michaelcantley9699
@michaelcantley9699 2 жыл бұрын
My first time watching, I like the format. As for Echo I think he's an asset, and he knows that sometimes less is more. As I said I liked the format.
@cahlendavidson2921
@cahlendavidson2921 2 жыл бұрын
This guy took the opportunity to talk about how badass he is. Props
@hob976
@hob976 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is over thinking this. Will Smith laughed at a joke, turned to his angry wife and saw her disapproval, walked up onto the stage and sucker punched a guy half his size. THAT was a "Bas Ruttan" style strike, more than a slap. Will Smith was so "Hollywood Royalty" that he didn't even get asked to leave. Other A-list actors consoled HIM for it.
@andrabook8758
@andrabook8758 2 жыл бұрын
and now you know how Harvey managed to abuse women for decades without anyone doing anything about it....i guess old habbits die hard, bc they still think it;s ok to commit crimes and get away with it today.
@themightysquid
@themightysquid 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea! He laughed and then she gave Will that “You gonna let him talk to me like that?” look. That’s usually when the sh-t’s about to hit the fan.
@cgates2
@cgates2 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but shit had clearly been building up for a long time. People have been clowning on Will Smith for years because of him and his wife’s (one-sided) open relationship. Chris Rock’s joke was just the final straw. And Will Smith must have clearly been right on the edge of lashing out for a joke that tame to push him over the edge.
@acecool72
@acecool72 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgates2 maybe Jada let him watch that night after the awards show lol
@acecool72
@acecool72 2 жыл бұрын
@@cgates2 plus I love how they have always had a open relationship it didn’t start out that way otherwise Will wouldn’t have went on tv and cried like a bitch about her sleeping with her sons friend
@dbrennan1523
@dbrennan1523 2 жыл бұрын
Will is emotionally and mentally fragile from years of being emasculated by his wife. He is not a tough guy even though he may act as one in the movies. He laughed and when he saw his wife was upset he ACTED what he THOUGHT a tough guy would do. And he missed the mark. A tough guy would have remained in control of his emotions, waited til after the show and met Chris Rock in the back and dealt with it, now that could have just been words or physical but that's how it would have played out. But he was desperately and pathetically trying to gain the love of a woman who will never truly love him. And he thought by acting that way she might love him.
@lowbornfool1713
@lowbornfool1713 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamblois9665 He wouldn't be the only man I know who's taken too many emotional blows for the sake of maintaining a loveless marriage and his family. The only difference is his scenario is being televised in real time
@kingofgrooveness
@kingofgrooveness 2 жыл бұрын
Not many people have this take but I agree 100%. Jokes are jokes and dudes been through alot publically. They can feel however they feel about it but men settle differences with words and sometimes with action but it's always done personally. Not on stage or in front of friends or to grandstand. This was wills insecurities portraying themselves as what a man would do. When a man would laugh at it in the moment and head to the back after to talk it out.
@odysseynoone3831
@odysseynoone3831 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely!
@douglaslockard9241
@douglaslockard9241 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@OwnedByTheState
@OwnedByTheState 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's sad to see.
@Hemlocker
@Hemlocker 2 жыл бұрын
The real problem is the way everyone at the Oscars reacted (or didn't react). If someone starts a bar fight, you can talk all day about the moral ins and outs, show empathy to them for having a bad day, etc but at the end of the day that person should still be escorted out of the bar and made to calm down. He shouldn't be given a standing ovation later that night for talking about spreading love. At that point, everyone else in the room has made themselves complicit in agreeing to violence as a response to words.
@Mo.1988
@Mo.1988 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, Jocko!
@EvanMerkes1
@EvanMerkes1 2 жыл бұрын
What is truly surprising is how fast Smith went from laughing to pure anger, in a matter of seconds. He's clearly got some internal conflicts going on and its pretty apparent he isn't happy with his situation with his "wife".
@holeefuk413
@holeefuk413 2 жыл бұрын
That nutjob of a wife has his head so screwed up he didn't know what way to react, he probably thought im going to hear about this all week
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s what actors and actresses are glorified Psychotic Schizophrenic’s.
@jake_with_the_BIG_snake
@jake_with_the_BIG_snake 2 жыл бұрын
maybe it reminded him of how angry he gets when he can't pull her hair, if you know what i mean 😂😂😂
@brentfoto
@brentfoto 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to look at the monologue by Chris rock at the 2016 Oscars in order to put this into perspective. Chris rock is lucky he got away with just a slap.
@littletwinstar9989
@littletwinstar9989 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentfoto shut up !!! We need to focus oscar 2022. Do you agree with barbaric behavior ?
@pencesonthemove1221
@pencesonthemove1221 2 жыл бұрын
The guy could breakdown the process of making cookies and relate it to the seal teams. Absolute legend.
@dillonquackenbush3895
@dillonquackenbush3895 2 жыл бұрын
First we are going to deploy the flour and eggs into the mixing bowl. Then we are going to grab the whisk and go on the offensive in the bowl. After that, our inability to resist the urge to do squats will get to us. So we’ll grab two fist fulls of that mixture we concocted, throw it in a brown paper bag and eat our bag nasty after some reps. Ps, if you’re wondering how it tasted I have one word for you. GOOD.
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 2 жыл бұрын
I’d watch that.
@unclereub4024
@unclereub4024 2 жыл бұрын
@@dillonquackenbush3895 default aggressive on the cookie dough
@usaf1804
@usaf1804 2 жыл бұрын
@@dillonquackenbush3895 Bag Nasty? Dude, that was term regular in ‘84 in the USAF! Us SP’s would hit the ‘to go’ chow hall and order some chow, it was good though, but we labeled and repeated this forever term our veteran brothers before us used. I was to,d it was widespread used in 60’s Nam at DaNang and Ton Son Nhut among. Other in country installations…
@pyerush
@pyerush 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, so true
@Notorious236
@Notorious236 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this, great to see a real non-dramatic response.
@docstockandbarrel
@docstockandbarrel 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the best lines I’ve read is from “When Violence is the Answer,” something like, “You don’t get to choose how someone reacts to what you do.”
@yournightmare4987
@yournightmare4987 2 жыл бұрын
Will smith's best slap couldn't stop a comedian from laughing it off and continuing the show in the most graceful composure I have ever seen in my life. Wasn't even sufficient to solicit the combative reaction from Chris and maybe this is the reason why wifey plays yoga with young boys. He laughs his behind off when jokes are cracked about other people except when the barrel points towards him and play victim later on the podium Problems stem from far way back, 2pac till now. He has been mounting a whole lotto accumulated belittling issues and he sneaked an opportunity to select what he thought and deemed to be a weak prey (Skinny Chris and Old) to make a demonstration by and again prey outsmarted the weak predator and it's going to be bruised for life Then he continues to speak about pain (non-life threatening condition called Alopecia) as if he knows the atrocious struggles that an ordinary African child in Africa has to endure every day for multiple years of lack of basic needs like water and food. Pain from hair loss of his wife joke doesn't even measure to real pains of life Guy is an emotional catastrophe, went from laughing, slapping, profanity, crying and dancing at the after party
@minier44
@minier44 2 жыл бұрын
On point.
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to divorce the witch
@yournightmare4987
@yournightmare4987 2 жыл бұрын
​@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 There is a conundrum too in that, she still wins cos she'll probably walk away with half the estate include the kids too Will Smith has lost big time!
@sidda3262
@sidda3262 2 жыл бұрын
Even with this joke he was laughing his butt off, so much so that he was doing the knee slap while laughing. The only reason he changed his tune is because he looked at his gross trifling wife. He can’t get her to stop having entanglements with other people so he went above & beyond to prove his love in an attempt to make her more loyal. He knew it was a funny joke.
@sidda3262
@sidda3262 2 жыл бұрын
@@yournightmare4987 the kids are adults. It’s not like she’d get custody of them if that’s what you mean.
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