Jocko Podcast 423: Your Personality May Keep You From Surviving. "Psychological Aspects of Survival"

[@ScottLovenberg]

This is such a great back and forth between Jocko and Echo. I feel like Echo has really been leveling up in his dialogue with Jocko and Jocko has been more accepting in departing from the text to dialogue on a point rather than constantly trying to get right back to reading. Great give and take here.

[@dameanvil]

02:06 🧠 Your survival may depend more on your personality than external factors. 03:11 ❄ Frostbite or other challenges matter less than your own mindset and actions in survival situations. 04:50 🤔 Passive, negativistic, and hypercondriac individuals are more prone to frostbite in combat situations. 11:27 🤔 Knowing and facing the situation is crucial; you are part of the situation. 13:06 🤔 The ability to make up your mind and act on a plan is vital for survival. 16:08 🛠 Ingenuity and resourcefulness to improvise with available resources are key survival qualities. 17:33 🤹‍♂ Being able to live with yourself, finding value in challenging situations, and keeping spirits up are important. 18:16 🔄 Flexibility is crucial; stubbornness can be costly in survival scenarios. 19:26 😎 Keeping cool, calm, and collected is essential in high-pressure situations to avoid panic and make rational decisions. 19:52 🧠 Navigator freezes during violent flak barrage, highlighting the impact of extreme stress on individuals. 21:34 🚲 Childhood story illustrates the concept of panic-induced behavior, emphasizing the importance of training for calm and collected responses. 25:18 🌊 Parachutist's contrasting reactions to water landing - one panics, while the other calmly recalls survival training, showcasing the significance of training in high-pressure situations. 26:17 🛑 Discussion on the importance of detaching in emergency situations and prioritizing solutions based on a hierarchy of problems. 27:41 🛠 Example of problem-solving during an escalator incident, emphasizing the value of detaching and identifying the root cause for effective solutions. 31:24 💪 Nature vs. nurture debate discussed in the context of training and skill development, with an emphasis on the impact of training even in the face of genetic differences. 35:47 🏋‍♂ Discussion on extreme cases where intense training can potentially outperform natural genetic advantages, highlighting the significance of dedicated and focused training. 36:53 🧘‍♂ Flexibility and strength have significant genetic components, but skills like Jiu-Jitsu, playing guitar, or shooting basketball are more trainable. 42:08 🧘‍♂ Remaining calm in stressful situations is crucial. The calm demeanor of a leader, like Joe in the mentioned story, can positively influence the entire team. 43:12 🧘‍♂ Recognizing signs of panic and implementing strategies to stay calm can be trained, making a significant difference in survival situations. 45:32 🤔 Maintaining hope and confidence increases the chances of identifying escape opportunities that might be missed by those in despair. 46:16 🧘‍♂ Lack of faith can hinder preparation. Being proactive and preparing for survival is crucial even when facing seemingly inevitable outcomes. 47:13 ⌛ Patience is vital in survival situations. Hasty decisions can lead to failure, and waiting for the right moment is a sign of maturity. 50:16 🤕 Being mentally prepared to endure unpleasant situations, pain, and discomfort is essential for survival. 51:50 🤔 Understanding and empathizing with others is critical in survival. The ability to predict others' actions enhances decision-making in challenging situations. 54:55 🤼‍♂ In survival situations, being a gentleman is not always necessary. Knowing when to unleash aggression and fight fiercely can be crucial for survival. 56:33 🔫 Survival situations can lead people to the verge of collapse, highlighting the impact of stress on behavior. 58:23 🚶‍♂ The will to survive is crucial; those lacking the will to survive are more likely to perish. 59:22 🤔 Blend in and avoid attention; the ability to go unnoticed is a valuable survival skill. 59:48 🚶‍♂ Self-awareness is key; knowing when not to run in a crisis situation can be a valuable quality. 01:01:35 😨 Understand and control your fears; knowing the origin of fears helps in managing and overcoming them. 01:03:55 🤷‍♂ Embrace the idea of starting training from where you are, even for personality traits; improvement is possible through practice. 01:04:38 🤔 In survival situations, individuals must make decisions and take responsibility; confidence in decision-making is crucial. 01:05:48 📵 Learning to exist without modern comforts is essential for survival; finding satisfaction in self-sufficiency is a valuable mindset. 01:12:41 🤯 Observing and appreciating your surroundings without relying on constant stimulation can bring a sense of clarity and connection. 01:14:44 🚶 Presence of others demands attention; absence is significant in survival mindset. 01:19:07 🔄 Flexibility crucial in survival; learn from mistakes, consider multiple solutions. 01:20:03 🧘‍♂ Recognize signs of panic, cultivate techniques for calming down in survival situations. 01:20:30 😟 Pessimism hinders survival; avoid all-or-nothing attitudes, maintain realistic outlook. 01:21:40 ⏳ Patience and tolerance are essential for survival preparation; waiting can be an opportunity for learning. 01:22:22 🤔 Learn to endure discomfort temporarily; recognize signs of approaching breaking point. 01:23:48 🔄 Discomfort is a part of training; adapting to discomfort makes you more resilient. 01:29:47 🤝 Sensitivity to others is crucial; understand feelings and ideas, predict actions. 01:30:52 💪 Utilize survival training for self-awareness; recognize strengths, control weaknesses in emergency situations. 01:32:03 🏋‍♂ Embrace a mindset of taking ownership and avoiding victim mentality. 01:33:51 🌐 You have more control over your life than you think; mindset matters. 01:37:21 🤔 Taking ownership in tough situations relieves stress and leads to better outcomes. 01:40:08 🔄 You're in control of making a situation better or worse by managing yourself. 01:44:49 🦗 In challenging times, focus on finding opportunities and making moves to improve the situation. 01:45:58 🐜 Survival situations may involve discomfort, but you can always choose better options like Joovv or clean supplementation.

[@LongLiveLiberty]

PREACH

[@petrl7964]

thanks

[@BruceWorful]

Wasn't feeling the workout today but refused to let mind win out over body. Thanks Jocko!

[@system.out.printlnsmartert5781]

Hell yea good job bro.

[@ScottLovenberg]

Jocko's so considerate giving Echo Charles a trigger warning!

[@Zimmerit45]

As they say “life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react”

[@NedakETX]

Perfect timing Jocko and Echo, I'm headed to the gym 🫡

[@poprocks837]

Good callout on the intersections. I look at every train crossing and every intersection, every time.

[@teresahemingway4577]

1:12:22 Situational awareness is important when you are out and about (not face in your phone) so you aren't easy mark for criminals

[@stann6868]

1:37 Yup, save it for when it really matters.

[@Discipline_equals_freedom]

One of the ultimate examples of being calm under extreme duress is when capt sully landed his AIRLINER on the damn Hudson River. The audio is cool as ice. Negative we’re going in the Hudson.

[@KhrystyanaFofana-qp2yt]

Your podcasts literally helped me psychologically survive

[@northeastrebel439]

BRING BACK BTF TONY!!!

[@alienautopsy9326]

I had a dream I was on Jocko’s podcast and his family invited me for dinner and he was the coolest guy. Woke up feeling good

[@jaybarnish77]

24:00 It would happen on engineering finals too. The test scores would end up in the single digits. They would get so stressed they couldn't do the simple easy points.

[@1234Brian.Street]

As in such of a specificity interpretation it was hypothesized that when the trait is directly relatable to the behaviors needed to perform a specific job, the correlations would be stronger between the trait and the behavior than when the trait is multifaceted and thus harder to relate directly to the requirements of the job.

[@dogbuggy32]

Echo , my daughter had twins. Let the games begin... love the podcast BTW. Keep up the great work.

[@IndubiousBran]

Run that ish big dawg, tell it how it is

[@TEM1]

The heat is in the work, boys.

[@jessebutryn]

I definitely agree with echo on the strength debate. A person with poor genetics can still train themselves into top tier strength capacities (600+ lb squat, 400+ lb bench, 600+lb deadlift) which is something no person on the planet no matter how naturally gifted they are can do without training for it. Having the right genetics is necessary to be in the top 1% but you can still get pretty damn close without genetics and certainly miles ahead of anyone that doesn't train.

[@travisturbeville1341]

Who is the author of this manual ? I would like to find a copy of it.

[@afterdarkstudios]

Anybody have a link to the manual?

[@thundergrace]

Stoics are cold

[@christopherbench1513]

Standby to get some

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

Got it! Flame retardant materials.. notice really.. 2016.. Oops! Lol.. yup in my throat was well and thennnn

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

👍 head ache.. full open please 🧠 health

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

Mm huh.. so he could STOP having to do burpees.. mm huh.. yup. That's what should happen. Mmhuh

[@LongLiveLiberty]

Good “some”, or bad “some”? No? Demsome? 😂

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

SIGMA personality qualities.. soo. Throat, and so on..Good until.. umm, 2016 you understand it was not flame retardant materials.. annnd it's based on something else..

[@Ali-e5h1b]

Stellar show. Interesting insights.

[@Boutys_mom]

Echo says, "sure, fine, let's say people have ONE skill then!!" I was already in agreement from when he said ZERO skills! -- Great podcast though guys, as usual. Loved the banter and Echo was on top tonight!

[@RoosterRaw]

Quality podcast lads a great listen enjoyed it. Thanks

[@squintz831]

Lately, selective disowership has really gotten me outta some sticky situations.

[@LucasPawlik]

Hey, there, the thought of personality being both the source for survival and a good life is the basis of Aristotle's ethics. Just and add, good show!

[@jamescampbell2411]

These are great points. Went to. Army. SERE back in the day. Probably one of the best schools I attended as an enlisted Soldier. Great psychology and manipulation in that course course at Camp McCall

[@LC-in5or]

"ladies have been falling for decades" -Echo Charles 2024

[@leighhema5424]

This was so good. Thank you. 😊

[@Boutys_mom]

You know Echo is excited about a talking point when he calls Jocko "Bruh" more than once per sentence! 😅 I'm from MA, so I picked it up quick & it cracked me up cuz I'll slip out a few "Brah's" esp when I have caffeine & if I'm talking about something from back in the day!

[@kayfish7621]

"An escalator can never break. It can only become STAIRS. Sorry for the convenience." ~Mitch Hedberg

[@orangewarm1]

Jocko, listening in Oxfordshire, UK. This is excellent. Woukd you write your own (updated) version? You could ask your colleagues/ ex-colleagues for quotes. I'd buy it.

[@mattkato924]

Jocko walks on water. Jocko chuck Noris's dad.

[@JoshDouglas-fn1zm]

Chuck Norris looks for Jocko under the bed!

[@squintz831]

Jeti Noris has no father. He is the Father.

[@tobe1207]

Im a mixture of accepting what you're dealt but also making the best out of it..which isn't the same thing as just accepting it. But i generally am agreeable and dgaf or complain. I'm conditioned to it. if i could come and go at will, a prison cell would be a cozy room to me...i hate too soft of a mattress. Plus the toilet is conveniently close. I like being outside too much to accept prison though

[@ScottLovenberg]

I've been tboned by a dude that went straight through say about 50 and hit me right in the center on the passenger door. It was night and he had lights on and was the only other car on the road. You positively don't have any chance to react - my mind became aware of lights approaching and sent the, "that's odd, investigate" signal a quarter second, half second at most and right then the most violent break of silence followed by two "slides" in my mind - going towards the steering wheel and the drivers side door, and looking out the windshield to see, "f*cking tree." The airbag deploys and I remember thinking I was going to miss the airbag better l because I was shoved towards the door so violently, or the tree gets me as I fly off the road. There's zero chance you're aware of a car going straight through a red until your brain realizes something is out of place and it's too late to even get your foot off the gas before you're watching your accident in slow motion.

[@squintz831]

Heavy

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

Yep, im still cold from years ago I guess. And then the thawing doesn't smell so great, and yes I sweat a lot.. but I'm cleanier, too old, and still have all my limbs, buuutt my feet..

[@Sweetleaf2001]

Check

[@samwamui]

Can someone attach an amazon link for this manual?

[@mrpeabodythethird]

The true warrior will never allow himself to be blown up by grenade, even if his commander put it in his lunch box disguised as an apple he accidentally ingested. Okay, seriously, I think it does make sense that your personality will be a major factor regarding the final outcome of any situation. And you know what they say, it ain't over until the fat lady sings.

[@danp6346]

We know where you stand by the things you leave out

[@parveezsaligh9248]

So many life lessons.

[@DTOXPUNK]

Roger that Had that principle I wasn't making money at my business so I left and got a job and now I make 2wice of wat I make great advice.

[@arthurcitron9774]

Spot on!👊🏻🇺🇸👊🏻

[@NoNamechanmel]

I say sorry in person ever if I’m not in the wrong. Pushing the cart say sorry or run into someone when they’re not looking. Sometimes I say it to much and I think to myself I need to stop saying that because it makes me look bad. Another resent example I told a random girl she looks beautiful in the parking lot of a mall. I felt like I was a weirdo and say sorry. 0 game 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️. also when I’m in the store and I’m going to the same direction and continuous seeing the same girl I feel like maybe she thinks I’m creeping on her when I’m not. However I’m just aware that I keep seeing this same person and she thinks I’m being weird. I’m 23 pretty above average big guy a but chubby and not a bad looking guy but I still think they think that I’m stalking them and trying to purposely follow them but I’m not. I’m polite, nice and respectful. And an over thinker

[@thundergrace]

Me and my daughter....please.

[@charleslamb6500]

think personalities are important, however towards being effective, or working on a team, or leadership 1. it's not who you are, what you say, or what you think about yourself that's important, it's what you do, or suffer for a greater cause, or that ultimately personalities are fake, or what we think of ourselves, not what we are, or what we do 2. personalities tend to run on subjective wisdom, or what people wish, or their tendencies to ignorance, arrogance, or folly, or that one could call it the ' psyche ', or perhaps useless, or relative perspective 3. there's not that much difference between personality, desire, ego, or deception, or that of esp. self - deception, or wishful character thinking, or that respecting personalities, wants, or aversions is towards suffering to the ego, or errant self - perception, or depending on the person, or past 4. people have different layers, or functions of soul, or one could talk of the ultimate perspective, or realities, and ' personality ', or selfish reasoning, perspective, or desire ranks only as level 3, or perhaps 4, or where there are more important faculties, volition, or suffering to causes, or trauma, truth 5. ultimately, or personalities can't decide objective, or important moments, or suffering, or it has to be wisdom, character, or service that does that, or where also prayer is support 6. wanting money, or power tends to be part of people's personality, or one could call that the Devil, or then what is the rest, to be trusted, or honesty 7. people's personality also tends to run on ' popularity ', or what gets me this, or that, or one could talk of a faculty, or degraded soul, or to be careful of decisions that run on that criteria 8. ultimately, the realities we compete with, or to respect are TRUTH, SUFFERING, WISDOM, OR OBJECTIVITY, or that personality, or also subjective character is second to that, or can't decide, write, or review what has to be done, or the necessities, or sacrifices to being true, or gospel

[@thundergrace]

Please help me heal

[@briantaylor6463]

Friend you CAN heal yourself but it takes effort and speaking personally I find a great deal of help in stoicism, Bushido and the teachings of Buddha, Confucius,Lao Tzu,Marcus Aurelius,Seneca and I draw on Miyamoto Musashi a hell of a lot. These men of antiquity knew stuff and the advice they give is as viable today as it was in their time. 2 pieces of advice come to mind.....1.LISTEN TO THE COMPASS OF YOUR SOUL.ALL YOU NEED LIES WITHIN YOU.ALLOW YOUR TRUE SELF TO LEAD YOU. Dokeshi no michi 2.PAIN IS INEVITABLE,SUFFERING IS OPTIONAL. Buddha You posses all you need to HEAL YOURSELF so commence,start in,get busy and you CAN do it,you are strong enough and just know there is someone out here rooting for you.

[@brandonfox01]

Yesterday i had a dream that Jocko was Adam from the bible, and that Eve his wife messed up by taking the forbidden fruit, he told her,” you want wisdom? Work hard. Don’t cheat your way. Get some.” When i woke up I thought i was in heaven because Jocko-Adam had saved us.

[@andrescer]

anyone found the PDF for this manual?

[@WHODEYFAN25]

"Are you sure about that" lol

[@andrewstacey4868]

10:40 pray for your enemies

[@billallengo]

Dang.

[@brettconv83]

Periscope Films on KZbin. Which I have no affiliation to uploads awesome old military training videos. They are very interesting to watch.

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

Lol, Hun.. she wants a sunroom with a dog door raised, and the outside of the sunroom has a pet ramp up to that dog door. It's snake be gone season

[@davedrill]

"ladies have been falling down from escolaters for decades"

[@jonathanschadenfreude9603]

leather sap! humans are easy to hunt once your used to running ridges after biguns!

[@laza6141]

32:13 Gold :D

[@thundergrace]

Stoics are heartless

[@Ali-e5h1b]

How do you define stoicism?

[@briantaylor6463]

I disagree we just don't run around with our hands in the air when confronted with an issue.

[@mrbigw100]

Jocko can we get John Stryker Meyer on the joe Rogan podcast while he’s still with us he wants to go on but dosent want to ask you

[@thundergrace]

Help!

[@ginsengchickensoup]

Ice cold 🔥🤣💯

[@PinkuStyle]

Nah champs, I'm definitely living until about 2100s

[@thundergrace]

I need travel mercies

[@thundergrace]

I'm not asking for sympathy .I'm really am needing friends

[@superiergaming5463]

Thanks u actually have a point see where I’m from actually is taken into consideration. Because the people around me r hungry. Most people would be like okay whatever I guess he learned something nah. Nah man. I need to leave

[@InHellITrust]

16:58

[@thundergrace]

Please pray for me...I have something with puffy eyes...I am too isolated.its an emergency....my eyes are important. Please help me!!!!

[@cinnreds18]

Are you good my dude? Please elaborate.

[@hallelujah5252]

🙏❤️🕊️

[@bodidley5015]

You’re gay

[@Excellencengrace]

Mercy

[@davelane4055]

The most Holy rosary of the blessed Virgin Mary, the chaplet of Devine mercy and saints Rita and Jude then my fat ADHD driven ass will them again again. Please don't give up MAGA and HOOK EM my friend

[@AnonymousFab]

Check 💪🏼

[@superiergaming5463]

I’m meant for something else

[@batjackjohnson252]

FIRST

[@ryanadamtexas]

▶️NOTES: "Psychological Aspects of Survival" from USAF Manual 🎬Jocko Podcast 423 🎬2/2/24 Friday ✅️Final points: 🎬Dont be passive 🎬Dont lack drive & ambition & aggressiveness 🎬You can have an impact in your world 🎬Survive & win depends on knowing & facing the situation you are in 🎬You can make situations good or worse based off how you manage yourself. You are in that situation. It is on you, take action & survive & win ✅️Air Force Manual 👉Published 1954 👉Based off interviews with airmen 👉Prisoners of war & escapees 👉During WW2 & Korea ✅️Personality requirements for survival 👉Will you be overcome or bring greater sharpness 👉All is depends on you 👉Passive individual is not aggressive & lacks drive & ambition 🎬Ex: Men with frostbite at war would detach their mind from the foot ▶️1.) Accepting things as they are 👉Not taking responsibility is a personality trait 👉You can make the situation worse by how you handle yourself 🎬Size up yourself 🎬Make up your mind & act on it 🎬Make a small decision 🎬Make up mind & take a direction 🎬Make adjustments 🌍Action reduces your fear. Hesitation increases fear & worry 👉He can improvise 🎺Book: Leadership strategy and tactics field manual ▶️2.) He can live with himself 👉Make a good thing out of a bad one 👉Keep your own spirits up & others also 🎬Ex: The more you look at the squat rack for 20 reps it will get harder 👉Have flexibility on your plan 👉He can rock with the punch 👉Change yourself to change the situation 👉Stubborn people stay with same plan ▶️3.) Keep cool, calm & collected 👉Know the signs of panic 🎬Ex: Pilot saw his partner die & covered his eyes 👉Some men think good under rough conditions 🎬Ex: Man was able to remain collected & unattach his parachure strap before going into the water 🎬Ex: A guy in a bar fight in instead of looking at the fight looks where the bouncers are & the exits 🎬Ex: A man during a plane crash was calm & edified calmness to all team ▶️4.) We are untrained in most things 👉Most people will have whatever reaction nature gave them to stressful situations 👉You can train yourself out of being stressed 👉You have to identify the process in what you're doing 👉If you are calm you help your whole crew stay calm 👉Recognize the redflags and when things are going sideways 🎬There is nature vs nurture: 👉Some people are naturally strong 👉Some things like guitars & jiu Jitsu are trained nurturing behaviors ▶️5.) Hope for the best and prepare for the worst 👉One lives in constant facts & one stays in constant fear 👉Man who keeps hope up will have more chances 👉Don't live in paralyzing fear 👉Don't be without facing the facts 👉Keep your hope and confidence up 👉Lack of faith prepares you from making preparations 👉God can only help those who want to help themselves ▶️6.) Weigh what you will get by waiting 👉Patience is key 👉Waiting is called "grown up" 🎬Example waited for 2-3 days watching patrols without acting on the enemy 👉Patience is the prime factor 🎬Ex: A man grew angry at being unable to use the radio 🎬Ex: As boats came to a man, he stayed still to not get caught by movement ▶️7.) He can Take it & dish it out 👉Important things for survival is Expect things to be unpleasant 🎬Ex: Dentist preps you by saying "it will hurt a little" 👉Expect & accept to take pain 🎬Ex: Group of men stayed in a ditch for 4 days no food & no water ▶️8.) Figure out other men & people 👉Understand other human beings 👉Some step on others toes & some keep everyone happy 👉Always be aware of feelings & moods of other people 👉Predict what they will do 👉Being able to understand & size up other people ▶️9.) Knows when it pays to be a gentleman and when it doesn't 👉Sometimes to survive its different 👉Have the will to "survive" 👉Sometimes we will be mad at people 🎬Remember who your friends are 👉Nerves & tempers happen over arguments ▶️10.) Be the little man who isnt there 👉Study the life of men who dont capture attention 👉Know when not to panic 👉Dont draw attention 🎬Ex: A soldier would walk around with a farm tool & would remain undetected 🎬Ex: Bears will back away if you're still ▶️11.) Knows where special fears & worries came from 👉Under tradegies understand the reason 👉Some memories from childhood can also help 🎬Ex: Man remembered old cops & robbers bayonet trick during tense scene 👉Be able to control them ✅️Simulated situations 👉Any training starts from where you are 👉Simulated situations help to size yourself up 🎬Ex: In decisive people can put themselves in simulated situations to make decisions 👉Realize in survival situations you'll be on your own & you must decide for yourself Imitation based off what others do is a good idea 👉As you obtain skill and confidence you can get satisfaction living with little for example 👉Shows "naked & afraid" & "living alone" are examples ✅️More keys 👉Dont lack flexibility: There is more than 1 solution to problems 👉Dont have pessimistic attitude 👉Everything in life is training 👉Patience & comfort are essential 👉Experience discomfort to be prepared 🎬Ex: Jocko does 100 burpees a day as out of body experience by shutting the mind Insensitive to others: Have human nature 👉Size yourself under stress 👉Utilize your strength & improve your weaknesses ✅️Control vs action 👉People think they only have 60% controls of most things but they actually have 96% control 👉The other 4% is uncontrollable things like diseases, car accidents, etc. 👉Its your mindset that is the factor 👉The opposite is passive individual 👉Dont surrender ownership 👉Its dificult to explain to someone when they are going through tough situations 🌍Its a game changer to realize how much control you have over situations

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

Oh well. We all die anyway.

[@batteredwarrior]

Completely missing the point.

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

@@batteredwarrior 🥱

[@superiergaming5463]

I’m boutta join the army

[@LongLiveLiberty]

You won’t do it. 🫡

[@superiergaming5463]

Dude it’s funny it rlly is my mom was doing something in the army not rlly sure what maybe she caught a body like u murders in plain sight anyways why do u videos always line up with my life

[@trusailietazperlinski4717]

They all want to fight and protect..but.. A king cobra..A king cobra in a downtown metropolitan area... Think about it.. they look like their heads have already been split, and like they've swallowed another rattlesnake headfirst with the rattler of the one he ate still in its throat. STOP running me like the trail of tears years ago if they had only opened their eyes. ✨ ⭐ SEE ID like it to not happen again

[@aurelius333]

Lotta weird AI bot comments up in here.

[@THEGOAT-MASKEDTRUTH]

Kimg

[@CarlosVerdinOfficial]

I’d rather lose than pull guard sir…. Then again, I might pull guard anyways. It’s just my style to break even my own rules. Sir. 🫡

[@davelane4055]

My favorite Sailor