Joe Budden And Queenzflip Finally Address The Contract Dispute They've Been Having 😳

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[@mrdee6076]

Joe is a clown. He knows flip is losing in the contract battle but he won't say anything because he benefits from it. Flip is truly stupid if he believes Joe is his friend.

[@iAmJuiceePablo]

The problem is Flip is looking at Joe as a friend his doing business with were as Joe is looking at Flip as an employee

[@mrlilrip10]

everytime

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Joe is looking at it correctly. People want him to talk as the homie. But when the lawyer and business aint right. They will turn around telling everybody "But Joe said". When Joe is not a lawyer or businessman himself. The lawyers are there to protect Joe and his network on things Joe may not forsee coming.

[@runthelikes]

Flip is actually trying to use friendship in this negotiation...... very very interesting

[@poppaexo]

Sounds very malish

[@UrbanMediaReview]

It's been proven even before Rory and Mal that's , that tactic will NOT ever work with Joe.

[@adleej15]

For a nigga who does good honest business Joe be having a lot of contract disputes

[@maddoxmalcolm]

Parks & Ice need to stop with yes man stuff & let Flip speak his truth.

[@tcincali9642]

Why by telling Flip he need to hire a lawyer to handle his shit? If Flip gets a lawyer involve he wouldn’t need to be trying to use the court of public opinion against Joe

[@ashleyhughley9403]

Flip is a prime example of why not to do business with friends. Respectfully if you’re doing business with friends it needs to be through professional reps such as managers & lawyers.

[@DJ.Generation]

I mean Joe Budden is too. So it's a double whamy

[@usernotfound904]

Shout out to QueenzFlip’s chair putting in crazy work 🪑 🥵 💪🏾

[@KingNez89]

Bro I hope you know you have a one way ticket to hell for that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@26bigfella]

Omg im crying bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fredjohnson2653]

This why u shouldn’t mix friendship with business bro it’s a job at the end of the day gang

[@johncapo2843]

POCKET WATCHERS if flip feels he underpaid, move on already who discusses money in public? Joe is successful on his own

[@hateinyoureyes5864]

Ours, I mean my shit 😂. Joe talks to them like a pimp talks to his stable

[@drewskiil9377]

What episode was that

[@hateinyoureyes5864]

Jump to 14:51

[@drewskiil9377]

@@hateinyoureyes5864 lol I'm trying to see the full episode. It looks interesting.

[@stewgravey329]

Sounds like Flip wants to make it a personal conversation when it’s a business decision

[@thegiant6795]

Why it’s always a problem or a convo about contracts n Joe

[@josephrodgers8574]

Because like Ice told Flip they make the mistake and try to use their friendships to negotiate. When in reality Joe isn't operating as a friend when it comes to contracts. As he stated this is a discussion between your people and my people.

[@jovedo27]

Cus Joe does shady business. No pun intended

[@It_aint_that_serious]

Time and time again, Parks showcases he has a face for Radio

[@CurtisTimmonsMusic]

Parks is such a yes. He goes with whatever joe says 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@johncapo2843]

Translation - he is smart never bite the hand that feeds you if flip feels he underpaid, move on already

[@professorxaviour3649]

@@johncapo2843 that’s not smart, b3cause it chains you to that hand! The history of business and nation building has proven this time and time again!

[@ryannicholson8823]

Nah, parks is actually right. Contracts protect all parties, and if you don't agree you can renegotiate. But I write contracts, what do I know about business 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@anonymouspreme3425]

Flip has a childish view about business and how its handled... he doesn't realize he can't dictate how people do business.

[@AndreCHatchett]

He does skits with his shirt off. He’s immature.

[@cryptochris8171]

@@AndreCHatchett he gets paid from those skits, it’s called content

[@DatzCrahzy]

I be forgetting he almost 40 years old sometimes smh

[@stevenjohnsonn]

@@AndreCHatchettLMFAO

[@cuhgoingoff2032]

Yeah he came up off skits and he randomly got that high chair it make him stand out a lot and idk if this is for him maybe his own pod would be coo but this is too much I think

[@BXBeastBoy]

Joe is right. A "view" is not a sale/subscription. All flip has to do is say "how many patreon subscribers went up sunce ive been here" but he is still thinking as a influencer trying to get a sponsor.

[@traderhines76]

How do you get to be a subscriber without the view? The subscriber comes from the views no matter how you slice it.

[@UrbanMediaReview]

@@traderhines76 views are very important.

[@ashtheoneandonly745]

Flip too damn needy lol

[@jenf836]

Sounds like flip wants to handle it the hood way. He wants a one on one with joe. Joe wants to handle it like a business. Don’t think joe is trying to screw anybody. He’s just running a business it’s not personal. Abide by the contract till it’s over and move on.

[@meladgoat]

queensflip leaves his own platform as the main guy to come here and be afterthought

[@pedrovaldez8503]

Word..flip left Gmoney to be a bat boy for Joe. Some of us are meant to be workers

[@nomad4411]

@@pedrovaldez8503are you gonna feed flip kids? Clearly he wasn’t making enough money on his own.I’d rather have 1% of Pepsi than 100% of my lemonade stand on the side of the road. Levels.

[@NoRest4TheWicked1]

@@nomad4411that’s a fact

[@rbfx9741]

Bigger checks.

[@Uncleorangesoda]

Joe swears he’s some great businessman all of a sudden. It took Andrew Schultz to diss joe and tell him to get on Patreon to get rich. Joe should of learned by now the podcast is not just solely based on him. He needs them all there. Joe’s idea that he can run a successful pod on his own is delusional.

[@StreetsMyth]

He literally did it. We didn’t no tart or mal and they had no stories just punchlines to Joe. You are true the pod is not about him anymore

[@shadthagod8033]

Flip want more money than he worth

[@RedSkies30]

Thanks for posting this...

[@NoWayJoseGG]

Joe tryna give flip a great deal he just not tryna make it personal like he did wit Rory n mal he letting the lawyers handle it

[@meladgoat]

im tryna figure out why melyssa ford is on the show? she can add a lot but chooses or is coached not to

[@danchase951]

Get back on yo hustle flip. Joe ain't perfect. Most his relationships go sour. He not a father figure

[@dxp96]

this is business bro, if Flip not happy with the contract he don't gotta sign it. Joe probably wouldn't even have hard feelings about it if he declines respectfully. Business is Business.

[@fearless798]

Having a good mentor is important in the world of business

[@steviejay868]

What the hell are you even talking about 😂😂

[@andrejohnson5928]

Thanks for the upload bro. Had to miss my patreon sub last month

[@_Ninety9ine]

Flip should walk

[@ryanjackson8898]

Everyone want a bigger piece of a pie already made by someone else.. Use the pod towards spring boarding your own brand, stop pocket watching

[@LouStreets]

Flip needs to get his business right. You don’t need to talk to to Joe, do it like Ice do it. You messing up the chemistry cuz you trying to talk business through friendship when they need to be separate

[@johncapo2843]

POCKET WATCHERS if flip feels he underpaid, move on already Joe is successful on his own

[@JJ11838ghcftv]

I’ll never feel bad for anyone who has a contact dispute with Joe moving forward because they all saw how Joe did the other guys and still chose to join.

[@RichieDavid83]

Flip just be talking. Like dude is not that bright.

[@parrisfoster4080]

I’m confused.. how is Joe wrong??? Flip doesn’t know contract law and chooses not to hire the adequate counsel to protect himself. How’s that on Joe… These hard lessons will teach Flip. Everyone in the room EXCEPT Flip gets it..

[@user-jv8kc7bp8e]

Damn is Joe Budden a podcast or is he just gonna have business disputes every so often.

[@youngatwista]

Thats the downside of working directly with your boss....and he doesnt bring these up, Flip brought that whole contract thing up

[@user-jv8kc7bp8e]

@@youngatwista right on 💯💪🏿

[@Xeno1798]

I love that this cast can have these conversations cuz I fw R&M but 😬Childish

[@TheJoker-my2xz]

Anyone taking Flips side in this over Joe is just biased cuz of Joe's business with Rory and Mal. Flip is objectively wrong lol And Joe is for once being totally reasonable about it.

[@yonapops8062]

Thought this was The Stop…tf?

[@keithkevinken]

Tired of Flip and his contract.

[@PapaMojo75]

This is the only pod that feels like everyone hates each other, and hates working together

[@danchase951]

Flip u tripping. U stopped doing flip the script. U over looking up to joe. Keep it business. He removed a competitor by signing u

[@mariaholland9176]

FLLIIIIIIIP *shannon sharpe voice* 😫😫😭

[@xandermartin2118]

Flip might need a therapist or a support animal or something. Cause it seems like he wants Joe to be his big brother or father figure or maybe even his mother lol.

[@johncapo2843]

POCKET WATCHERS if flip feels he underpaid, move on already Joe is successful on his own

[@fiveduece52]

Budden has never been successful on his own and if he feels he can be then prove it

[@fiveduece52]

​@@johncapo2843all ofa sudden it's fucc flip same way it was fucc Rory and Mal y'all nyggas goofy

[@hateinyoureyes5864]

Funny, I’m sure Joe used his friendship with Flip to convince him to join the show but come contract time he doesn’t get involved in that? Brilliant 😂

[@itspeak6310]

Sun count is irrelevant. Active viewership and engagement is the currency. 2 million subs and 10k views means nothing

[@Footballer85749]

This. Joe will boost what favors him and discount what favors others. Subs show longevity (his podcast) views more reflective of present day #s/engagement (which can be partially attributed to Flip). Both important like you said.

[@itspeak6310]

@@Footballer85749 I appreciate Flip for trying to give some push back. He crumbled and let Joe get that bullshit off. Joe looks crazy to everyone when he behaves like this

[@sHutch4249]

I do believe Flip knows more than he is displaying; Flip Is a constant creator and knows what creates content …

[@nicolerising3449]

Flip should've learned from Rory & Mal. BUSINESS JOE is different from My Mans Joe. Handle the business & get back to the Friendship.

[@JamesEarlBonez]

Rory and Mal????😅😅😅😅

[@nicolerising3449]

@JamesEarlBonez It's obvious that the Friendship was placed above the business to the point that they thought that it would prevail and dictate the Business. Joe is not that Guy. Whether others know it or not, he has clear lines of demarcation. So of you plan to do business with him, you have to as well.

[@meshame6785]

@@nicolerising3449I’m happy you said this. 1000%!!

[@stevenmoore3381]

Sounds like Flip just want Joe to say that he wants Flip on the show

[@poppaexo]

It’s amazing how black people cant seem to separate business from emotions. Reading these comments is nuts

[@jeffwilson8246]

How do you know the comments you read are really coming from black people or are you saying those few black people on screen are what you are using to form your opinion on all black people handling business??? This is not a shot at you personally. So please don't take it in that way....

[@pwest1101]

Parks, we kno u don't wanna talk about business. U just wanna eat Joe and be down with the kool kids.

[@TheNyion912]

parks is paid well

[@pwest1101]

@@TheNyion912 Nothing I said implied that he didn't. 🤷🏾‍♂️Context is key my nigga. I said he don't wanna talk about business. Never said he did bad business or took a shitty deal.

[@tpa6laf]

Flip talking street garbage. Everybody else talking business.

[@ladygoodmen7399]

Flip needs to take a business course. And learn REAL friendship has no space in to business and money. Have to separate the two.

[@jalenb23]

separate friends & business ALWAYS.

[@sirwavydude5435]

Joe's sub vs views is bullshit lol... He thinks he's smarter than he is. The views is where the money come from, sub count don't mean shit if they're not watching the videos. I've seen channels where a video blows up (over a million views) with like 50k subs, so obviously that video would bring in way more money than another video with 100k views...And the guys just let Joe get that BS off.

[@qc7976]

Damn. Not gonna lie, I always thought it was about the subs, but the way you put that down makes sense.

[@BGeorgeVideo]

NOT REALLY, views a put into categories and the most coveted one is ppl that watch 100% of the content …. There’s LEVELS to views, the final number you see doesn’t represent what you think it represents ….. SUBS are very ‘strong’ because it shows INTENT to watch, it shows you are looking for continuous content from a specific outlet! It’s all very complicated

[@gunnyo50]

@@qc7976 I have known for quite a while that "VIEWS" is where KZbinrs make their money. Superchats, donations, links to affiliate products, links to their social media all of that is financial. So yeah, the subs don't mean shit if you can't monetize that.

[@ChanThomas]

Well one u have to remember u talking from KZbin this podcast is a Patreon podcast so yes subscribers hold the most weight b/c even if u don’t watch u still get charged joe does 4-5 pods a week if u only have YT u might think they only do 1-2

[@sirwavydude5435]

@@ChanThomas that's true but even that kinda works in flips favor... We know Joe don't like showing the accountants lol but if the subs on Patreon increased once flip join then he'll have a greater chance demanding whatever he asking for.

[@nomarabad1936]

flip wants an older brother out of Joe

[@meladgoat]

you mean the hosts have a problem with joe and money?

[@drudgoin]

Joe has always had horrible business deals every where he goes. Can’t find a time he’s done good business. But ppl still making excuses. And saying it’s someone else

[@davonkearney]

I think it's about the money they just don't wanna look like they don't got money

[@RichieDavid83]

Simple

[@butta1193]

It’s always about the money

[@sliccavelli]

Ice started acting different when he got rid of the glasses

[@frndawggg3799]

😂

[@chustlerm]

He felt cooler

[@mrfosheezy5481]

That eye bbl 😂

[@sHutch4249]

You don’t CONTROL your win unless you get your own platform (Queenzflip)… JB Is making it clear….

[@sundocdouglas]

Flip has to understand… business has nothing to do with “my man” etc that’s where disgruntled employees are born. It’s strictly what the contract states and that’s it..

[@msluvlifeh6950]

The contract is already done..that is just more convo for VIEWS...lol

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

FLIP is going out bad but he’s a mentally a child.

[@elchapo6175]

Flip want joe to be his daddy

[@DecaturQue]

I still have no idea how Joe monetizes his podcast. Can’t be KZbin and I have no idea what his patreon is looking like but normally that somewhat correlates to views too.

[@isaac-os7xq]

Yeah, with youtube, he gets money from views. He also got a lot of patreon subs, with the highest tier at $25

[@DecaturQue]

@@isaac-os7xq the views i see on KZbin are no where near supporting an 8 plus person staff, and he claims to live a pretty wealthy lifestyle and definitely isn’t getting the money from music. How much do y’all estimate? He doesn’t thrown any numbers out there and he’s one of the Patrons creators that hides their number.

[@Footballer85749]

@@DecaturQue He may still write, his pen game is strong.

[@epierson4783]

Flip has to grow up and deal with business and leave everything else separate!

[@Biggda4k]

That’s broke shit for me to be me Mf bars

[@shirleystarr9605]

Fat boy should get his own podcast with all that ego. Joe would be smart to let him go - this will not end well.

[@preepree1212]

Flip sound like he needs a father

[@lilyashagirl]

I Swear if Flip or... Don't say what the Real Problem is and ger it Done!!! Talking it Ain't about money...TF?!?! This Ish is getting Old. Joe Talk to your man or Don't... Flip ain't used to this whole Contract Ish. He's Old School... Period. I get Joe's protecting himself as he should but Shut it Down 1 way or the other!!!

[@teacupolous]

Sounds like flip wants to get paid from KZbin

[@juliensmith8654]

They just told you this shit is a mix of reality & bullshit

[@UrbanMediaReview]

WHY they keep reiterating what it's NOT about instead of just saying what it is about. If it's on the table speak on it or just keep it in the dark completely. Their dancing around the biggest elephant in the room. He obviously wants to do and pull up to other podcasts on the side. But the contract won't allow it. Also why did they just abruptly end the pod where queenzflip invites his own guests. It's so obvious.

[@JJ11838ghcftv]

The truth is flip doesn’t want to get done in like Rory and Mal. He wants security in the position and wants to know all the numbers. Idk why he thinks he’s any different then Rory and Mal. Joes number 1 priority will always be joe. Y’all replaceable in his eyes.

[@JamesEarlBonez]

Players really dont fux with Doc Rivers tho

[@joshuagriffin4120]

Facts

[@msluvlifeh6950]

Joe trying to sound like he's the only one who knows how it goes and he sounds so CRAZY....he needs to 🛑.... WITHOUT Views no LIKES no SUBS no INTEREST from the VIEWERS....

[@StreetsMyth]

Stop saying parks is a yes man, he’s been on the worker side (engineering) he understands business. He paid well trust. And he may be tied in deeper than y’all think equity/stake wise in the JBP.. he’s Joe business partner 😂

[@x89offical82]

He basically about being a partner on brand

[@christiandeville17]

I wouldn’t sign back with Joe. Joe is a shady business man. He wants flip to bring subscribers and views and bring new ideas and the show back but also doesn’t want to pay flip his worth. Flip is worth more than ish and ice his contract should be different in certain merits flip actually has a credible set fan base and content of quality. Joe should consider flips side. He maybe emotional but he has a point

[@mrspgrew]

Clicks don't equal subscribers. ANYONE can click and watch once, but a subscriber is worth more. FLIP keeps bragging about views, no one is telling him he has to go get subscribers. But if you're bragging, brag about long term viewers

[@christiandeville17]

@@mrspgrew they need him if flip leaves the pod has no sauce or motion before flip nobody could get through a full episode. Ish and ice are terrible

[@djthakid91]

@@christiandeville17 Thats not true bc the views went up after Rory and Mal left...

[@valiant1278]

Just get rid of flip..

[@anthonytyler3477]

The cycle of the pod when 1 of the host get poppin here...they always say they do more and bring in more so they should be paid more..this podcast hasnt lost ratings or views so why would Joe pay more for the same result.

[@kjo2130]

They’re all saying a whole lot of nothing lol

[@Roses-mg8mg]

A whole lot of nothing I’m tired of hearing it

[@trafflix9548]

Fire Iceeeee?!. The real ones need somebody to speak for their perspective on the platform… Flip is for the streets and Ice is for the traditional man gotta keep it all my G

[@thraxeadamus]

This is a grown man convo and I respect it. No jumper sux compared to the JBP

[@26bigfella]

So if the subs went up then he gets a raise... But the subs did go up 🤔🤔🤔

[@traderhines76]

That don’t even matter to Joe. He will say it’s not because of anyone individual therefore that won’t apply to you.

[@jovedo27]

Joe don't care about nobody but himself. I bet he will have a new cast eventually

[@Thewavegodp]

Flip wants Joe to publicly acknowledge his contribution to the show and have the ability to be the 1a to Joe. Joe just gave Flip some free game. Flip has to show his value in more ways than views.

[@iamnicesea]

Don't a person have to view before they subscribe. Joe down playing. Dude A diva

[@serenequeen1125]

Seriously

[@Footballer85749]

Joe a master manipulator. If they aint curating this for views, then Flip need to bounce.

[@samvolriejrforalina2633]

Mannn I hope so too Ice mad annoying 😂 19:17

[@jovedo27]

I still think this is a fake narrative for views. You can't convince me otherwise

[@khaleeldotson4742]

Flip soft

[@jeremiahvegan3285]

Queenz flip makes this show entertaining.

[@foofoofontanna1784]

Flip is not as naive as y’all think! 🤔it’s definitely a method for his madness!

[@haroldcosta-ayers1924]

Be easier if Joe just took the ad money , then everyone would be boomin

[@BIGWOOO]

And the retention rate would drop significantly. I almost turned it off after a add in THIS video

[@haroldcosta-ayers1924]

@BIGWOOO Gang every podcast with a mass following do ads but people still listen somehow

[@kelanhall7414]

​@@haroldcosta-ayers1924Nigga saw a ad & clicked off the video 🤦 Like dam nigga it's free to watch. You can't sit through 5 seconds to help them feed they family bruh?

[@BIGWOOO]

@@haroldcosta-ayers1924 i know and 9/10 times i click off after the first two adds. Joe is one of the few i can watch whole episodes too and it sprobably cause i dont realize how long i been watching it due to no adds and good content

[@Ricky-yj8vz]

This is the problem I have with Joe. Some of the sub talk I understand with corporate. Joe is looking at his whole stick as a show as a whole entity. But what tha fck he talking bout views aren't a borominter to how to negotiate is all the way CAP! Joe unfortunately has a seriously awful side to his personality. And that's keeping his crew happy. I will promise you atleast two of the podders on his show currently will be gone before spring. You heard it here first. It's something with his way of thinking. He can't get out his own way when it comes to talking business/contracts with his co-hosts. And listen I'm a boss with 12 employees working under me. It can be a tricky high wiring act at times. Especially when they your day 1 homies. He reverts back to tha old crackhead Joe and will talk like he is on the management side then the next breath he is there boyz who is looking out for them. I almost feel bad because I don't think he is even doing it on purpose at times. He just has that arrogant side that will come out on a drop of a dime and will unleash tha most fcked up shhh in one line. But a min later will almost pretend he didn't just go there with them. It might be abit of bi-polar I'm not a doctor. But what I've witnessed is Definitely a mental illness to some degree. But the guy on the other end is very passionate with the show that has his name on it. I believe he wants to keep the crew happy but sometimes the 2006/love&hip hop Joe Budden comes out and when then that shhh comes run for the hills!!! Other than that Joe is a smart dude and very witty. So I hope they all stay on for another contract atleast

[@d.cpro3751]

Joe needs to structure and hire people for the business. Him and Ian get do everything 💯! Joe's platform has gained tremendously in a year or so. Sometimes you gotta know how to hold them and fold them. He should step back and revaluate the business.

[@LamarKing215]

It’s a mix between flip knowing his worth,and flip not knowing how to handle his worth; I respect him putting his foot down about the live show,but at the sametime it should’ve stayed

[@kharijackson1433]

Flip is like a lil ass kid he want joe to be his daddy….. that you my man’s bullshit don’t mix wit business