Joe Frazier Documentary - The Legend of Smokin' Joe

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Rich the Fight Historian

Rich the Fight Historian

2 ай бұрын

A look back at the life and career of Smokin' Joe Frazier, from his childhood of poverty in South Carolina to becoming the world heavyweight boxing champion. Included are bouts from his legendary rivalry with Muhammad Ali.
Footage provided WSC Sports
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@deduderi5795
@deduderi5795 2 ай бұрын
Won the 1964 Olympic Gold despite having a broken thumb Fought through two knockdowns to beat Oscar Bonavena, and then beat him again Went through hell in 1971 and 1975 to achieve the two greatest efforts in boxing history Severely outmatched, showed tremendous heart in rising from 5 crushing knockdowns at the hands of one of (if not the) the heaviest punchers in history, then wore contacts for the rematch because his eyesight was shot Did all this while suffering from diabetes, low blood pressure, and being half-blind for most of his career...truly a great, great man
@nervosadustbolt9642
@nervosadustbolt9642 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that old Farm injury that hampered mobility in one of his Arms. ( I think it was his left ) I can't remember exactly.. I apologize. Regardless, Frazier was one TOUGH, Son of a Gun.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 ай бұрын
My son, who never saw Frazier fight, played a video boxing game. He described Frazier as 'that guy that never stops.'
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 ай бұрын
Overpower Joe Frazier to beat him and Foreman had that in abundance, to why he was successful in beating him. Fraziers defence he was in no physical condition or endurance to fight Foreman. The Frazier of 1st Bonavena & Manuel Ramos fight fought Foreman it would’ve been a different outcome.
@viberunners5118
@viberunners5118 3 күн бұрын
😂 accurate
@g.sergiusfidenas6650
@g.sergiusfidenas6650 2 ай бұрын
Don't know how Ali ate that hook clean and got up, unreal toughness. Smokin Joe was a legend for sure, love the guy.
@stand.6008
@stand.6008 2 ай бұрын
Ali could take a punch...maybe better than any heavyweight during his era and most other eras.
@cycletouringoz5760
@cycletouringoz5760 2 ай бұрын
As Ron Lyle said about Ali in the documetary “Facing Ali” “Man was no joke, Man could fight”
@FB-nw8pp
@FB-nw8pp 2 ай бұрын
@@stand.6008What about George Chuvalo? Who never has been knocked down for 93 matches, including fights with Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, and George Foreman.
@andypicken7848
@andypicken7848 2 ай бұрын
sergiusfidenas6650 Its got to be genetic, like you alluded to most fihhters would be sparko
@HOSTILEMGTOW
@HOSTILEMGTOW 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@stand.6008 When Jose Ribalta fought Mike Tyson, he took about 1000 hydrogen bomb punches from Tyson, and ate them all as if they were fingerfood entrees LOL.
@seniordavidmanderson9232
@seniordavidmanderson9232 2 ай бұрын
Smokin' Joe, fought in some of the most exciting, important and memorable boxing matches in history. The stuff of legends.
@lordburlapisblackDavidFrost
@lordburlapisblackDavidFrost 2 ай бұрын
Frazier hurts every time he thinks of Ali. His hostility still rages within. It's a consuming, ugly bitterness he has carried for decades, the result of the hurtful things Ali has said. He insulted his intelligence, his character and his lack of black pride. Ali called Frazier ugly and ignorant and, most disturbingly, an Uncle Tom. Frazier, the son of South Carolina sharecroppers, was deeply wounded by Ali's ridicule which was accepted as socio-political fact and isolated Frazier from the black community. Ali somehow succeeded in making a fight between two African - American men a matter of black and white. Throughout the black community, he was an object of derision and scorn because of the way Ali treated him, it was cruel. The hatred grew intensely within Frazier. He was unable to compete with Ali's eloquence, but he had a left hook that could do the talking for him. Frazier, with loating in his heart and thunder in his Everlast gloves, punished Ali for the things he said. Notice after Ali vs Frazier 1 fight announcers said Frazier was feeling sic in his corner and he just wanted to go back to dressing room. That's because Joe couldn't slow his heart and nervous system back down to a resting state. Joe already had history of high blood pressure and diabetes, he spent nearly two weeks in the hospital for exhaustion, blood pressure, diabetes and kidney problems.. BUT BUT when he was in his 40s Joe was out dancing and singing in the clubs while Ali couldn't talk and his tremors were getting worse. Younger folks haven't a clue what Ali actually did to Joe, let me explain by saying it's exactly like today's Hollywood liberal cancel culture. Frazier hated that Louisville Lip and before fight he got on his knees and prayed to God that he could make Ali perish. Personally i have to admit, everytime Frazier smacked Ali i cheered, We All Cheered, MILLIONS CHEERED "We locked up three times. He won two, and I won one. But look at him now. I think I won all three." -- Joe Frazier
@gilly-5687
@gilly-5687 2 ай бұрын
Reading about this man changed my life, he taught me that discipline, willpower and sheer dogged determination are necessary for success in many facets of life not just boxing. He's the reason I got my life on track.
@Number1DriversSeat
@Number1DriversSeat 2 ай бұрын
Which books about him did you read?
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 ай бұрын
True measure of overcoming adversity & challenge. He moved mountains because of that courage he displayed in & out of the ring.
@CraicDealer
@CraicDealer 2 ай бұрын
Joe will always be my favourite heavyweight
@davidbolen8982
@davidbolen8982 2 ай бұрын
Epitome of Philly badassness and grit. True guts wiping out true talent. Every. Time.
@FB-nw8pp
@FB-nw8pp 2 ай бұрын
My favorite too!
@ronwelch6548
@ronwelch6548 2 ай бұрын
He's always been my favorite ever.2nd is Iron Mike.
@nervosadustbolt9642
@nervosadustbolt9642 2 ай бұрын
Me too!!! Me too!!! Hell, he is my favorite fighter of ALL time of ANY Weight Class.
@slaphead8835
@slaphead8835 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier is one of the best examples of hard work, determination, courage and resolve. He’ll always be remembered for defeating the much more gifted Muhammad Ali because on that special night he was just not going to lose! Great documentary Rich.
@Manny-nm8dh
@Manny-nm8dh 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to say, but he was a better person than Ali through and through.
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Frazier was made from the mold they used to make role models. They truly don't make them like him anymore. What a great man who was treated so unfairly to and by the public
@kelliejohnson3050
@kelliejohnson3050 2 ай бұрын
I admire Ali- But if i had a wish to have lunch with Ali or Frazier i would go with Joe..​@Manny-nm8dh
@kelliejohnson3050
@kelliejohnson3050 2 ай бұрын
Joe would have beat any Heavyweight in the World on that night!
@danielE.muhammad7622
@danielE.muhammad7622 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the documentary of Joe Frazier
@reubenrodriguez5581
@reubenrodriguez5581 2 ай бұрын
Frazier and Ali's Rivalry will never be topped honestly, thanks to their bouts they both became the greatest heavyweights in their division and sparked a boom period in boxing history. Heck you can't mention one of these guys without saying the other, that's how synonymous their bouts truly were. Joe is one of THE all time greats, a true legend that will never be forgotten. RIP Joe
@OldSchoolStrength
@OldSchoolStrength 2 ай бұрын
Joes first fight against Jimmy Ellis is one scary showing of how dangerous frazier could be.. The Venom in his left hooks is bone chilling to watch.. Eddie Futch did a fantastic job with Frazier.. 👊🔥
@tloustrats
@tloustrats 2 ай бұрын
9 consecutive title defenses between 1968 - 1973 in the golden age. Top 5 HW of all time with Big George & Muhammad We will always remember the trilogy with Muhammad as the greatest in sports history. Smokin Joe Rest in Peace 👍
@Cychopath99
@Cychopath99 2 ай бұрын
Curiously, Frazier was allowed to keep his heavyweight title in the 2 years after his first fight with Ali in 1971, he only fought 2 tomato cans in Ron Stander and Terry Daniels, and the rule should be that the champion must fight the top contender every year, yet Frazier didn’t fight any legit top contenders for two years after Ali, until he was forced to fight Foreman in 1973, don’t know how Frazier was able to get away with that.
@tloustrats
@tloustrats 2 ай бұрын
@@Cychopath99 I mean Ali in 1978 too fought an unknown boxer to defend his title. Ali was given many decisions unfairly in 1976 (Young + Norton III). Plus Frazier cleaned out the division the only missing contender was Foreman at that time. Frazier beat Quarry twice. Bonnavena twice. Bugner already. Ellis once. In 1972 the only possible serious contender was only George and it has been agreed the fight takes place the very begining of next year.
@alangrace8628
@alangrace8628 Ай бұрын
​@Cychopath99 thank god someone else sees my flaws in frazers record... meanwhile Ali fought 8 times in the same period and was number one contender.. frazer turned down 3 million to fight Ali in a rematch and instead took 850 k to fight foreman !!?? Also frazer wouldn't fight liston in late 60s and he never fought, lyle, Norton or shavers... all facts
@Cychopath99
@Cychopath99 Ай бұрын
@@alangrace8628 you are 100 % right, after the First Ali fight, Frazier and his management was ducking Ali and everybody of significance for 2 years, Meanwhile Ali was cleaning up the division for him. Frazier didn’t even fight Bugner, his only other opponent of significance until he got blown away in 2 rounds by Foreman, and by that time, Bugner had already lost to Ali anyway
@alangrace8628
@alangrace8628 Ай бұрын
@Cychopath99 and many believe frazer lost the fight to bugner... Joe was a great fighter but he is overrated...just look at his resume.. I believe liston would have destroyed him in 68/69 if sonny had prepared properly
@MrT-ev4dq
@MrT-ev4dq 2 ай бұрын
What more can I say that hasn't already been said. Great man great fighter. RIP Smokin Joe 🙏
@Petey-Mops
@Petey-Mops 2 ай бұрын
I met him once when I was a courier in Philly. He held the elevator for me, shook my hand and was really gracious. Dressed in all white from fedora to shoes. The city should've saved his gym as a historic landmark. Hated seeing him live off of canned food at the end of his life.
@Gilturner700
@Gilturner700 2 ай бұрын
If Tyson had the heart and character of Frazier he would he would have been an all time great HW instead of an all time great puncher Joe was a great man
@marymary83436
@marymary83436 2 ай бұрын
So true because to me tyson did everything better than Frazier, but Frazier had a chin and was mentally stronger.
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 2 ай бұрын
Agreed.tho to look at they’re styles might look similar I think that tyson was more a well oiled machine.I have to say tho I don’t think Tyson had a poor chin just didn’t have the heart especially later on.No one could ever question fraziers heart
@johnniethepom7545
@johnniethepom7545 2 ай бұрын
​​@@darrenstopper1806 I think in a computer simulated match between Ali and Tyson , Tyson would have won if he had the benefit of studying this fight . Cus D'Amato would have had all the answers Iron Mike needed to beat Ali .
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 27 күн бұрын
​@@marymary83436 Smoking Joe got up six times against young George Foreman. Tyson never came close to doing that against anyone.
@mrmoon1482
@mrmoon1482 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier moulded his style on Henry Armstrong, both fantastic fighters,
@everettseay8505
@everettseay8505 2 ай бұрын
Hammering Hanks style efficiently utilized by a Heavyweight! A most Remarkable and Unique Champion! Joe Frazier thanks for those fantastic and fabulous memories ❤️
@MrCrystalcranium
@MrCrystalcranium 2 ай бұрын
When you look deep into Joe's life and talk with the people who knew him intimately, you'll find Joe found solace in the bottle. Even during his reign, he was a very heavy drinker. In the years before his death, Bob Foster, when asked what were his memories of Frazier as a fighter and a man replied "Man...that guy could drink". He advised Joe many times he needed to slow down or he was going to kill himself. The diabetes, hepatitis and the alcohol led to the liver cancer. To his last days, he drank from a pint of brandy spiked with cough drops. The image of him in his final years living in a room above the gym, all the money gone is so so very sad.
@TFB97
@TFB97 2 ай бұрын
That explains a lot mate. I think Joe looked real out of shape vs Foreman in the first fight. Ali said he looked fat vs Foreman and I believe him. He just didnt look like the same fighter that battered Ali in 71. Maybe it was the drinking 🤔. Although I think George would have always beaten Joe.
@johngannone7462
@johngannone7462 2 ай бұрын
Another awesome episode. Frazier doesn't get the credit he deserves as a top heavyweight. Tremendous heart, technique and the one of the best hooks ever.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, John.
@drummersagainstitk
@drummersagainstitk 2 ай бұрын
Thank You Rich! Smokin Joe exemplifies the sport of Boxing. He was a very dangerous man in the ring. A gentleman outside of it.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, TheBatugan
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi 2 ай бұрын
Marvin Hagler, and Joe Frazier are my favorite pugilist!!
@whitehurstcomic
@whitehurstcomic 2 ай бұрын
I Know you like to focus on some of the lesser known fighters, which I love, but thanks for covering Smoking Joe. He definitely deserves the fight historian’s perspective. Joe was a man’s man and a fighter’s fighter. I hope you have a lot of young followers. They need to know.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, whitehurstcomic. Yes, it's a shame that the younger fans only know him from video games, if at all.
@johndavies2285
@johndavies2285 2 ай бұрын
Wow...100+ minute from Rich on Joe Frazier..? Could me in!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Right on, John.
@philiplangerman7375
@philiplangerman7375 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great job Rich . Your boxing documentaries are some of the best content on KZbin .
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Philip.
@dwiggles1
@dwiggles1 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier was alway a personal hero of mine, that I did report on him for a speech class in college. It’s been years so my memory could be a little off… The story I came across on why he left home when he was 15, was this… It might be a friend or just a random kid from a share cropping family. But the other boy did something to up set a white man. I don’t remember what it was, in those days it could be anything. And the man started to get physical with the boy and started to beat him. Well Frazier who was very strong from work on his family’s farm, didn’t like this and intervened. Joe started to fight the man and ultimately knocked him out. In those days, a black boy knocking out a white man was pretty much a death sentence. For that reason, his family decided he should go. The story I heard on why his left hand was so strong, was this… His father in a farming accident hurt one of his arms (not sure which one), and it was either amputated of damaged permanently. The family needing to make money, Joe would go out and work with his dad who had 1 functioning arm. In helping his father on the farm, he had to be on the opposite side of his father to help him lift things. In doing this, he had to utilize his left arm more than his right. Which made his arm extra strong, giving him that insane left hook.
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi
@LetitGolazziter-uk9xi 2 ай бұрын
It boggles my mind that they have a statue of a make believe boxer in Philly, but let a true LEGEND, Mr. Frazier’s gym close.
@williamj6974
@williamj6974 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier has a giant statue at the xfinity live at the sports stadiums, the rocky statue was a prop from rocky 3 left behind after the film wrapped the city had nothing to do with the rocky statue it moved around several times until they put it at the bottom of art museum stairs since tourist identified the stairs with Rocky I agree that his old gym should designated as a historic place
@TFB97
@TFB97 2 ай бұрын
Frazier vs Quarry 1 was an insane fight. Very underrated slugfest 👊🏻👌🏻
@Tacitus117
@Tacitus117 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to find a good Joe Frazier documentary on KZbin forever I’m so happy you made one he was such a legend
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Glad to provide one, Tacitus.
@rojai9673
@rojai9673 2 ай бұрын
Best body punching heavyweight ever
@stevecvino
@stevecvino 2 ай бұрын
If you haven't please read Ghost of Manila. Love how the author Mark Kram talks about Frazier. He writes that Eddie Futch says after the Thrilla in Manila that it was the best body attack he'd ever seen a heavyweight deliver. Kram said, agreed, no words could describe the sound of the flamenco on Ali's body. The aural effect was horrendous.
@getsmart3701
@getsmart3701 2 ай бұрын
YES...thank you Rich. Love me some Smokin'.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, GetSmart
@stand.6008
@stand.6008 2 ай бұрын
I was a little kid when Joe Frazier was about past his prime. I personally think Frazier was never the same after the first Ali fight. It took a big chunk out of his prime years. After the 3rd Ali fight, he was finished as a serious contender. I did love his fighting spirit. It's a shame that Frazier hated Ali for all of those years, but I totally understand. Ali was not nice to his opponents and knew how to hit (not literally) their nerves.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 ай бұрын
Ali crossed the line. He called Frazier a gorilla, and people laughed. Howard Cosell called a football player a 'monkey' on MNF, and was excoriated. Ridiculous double standard.
@marcus.g.4273
@marcus.g.4273 Күн бұрын
​@@TheBatugan77 shaddup 🤡
@michaelh.117
@michaelh.117 2 ай бұрын
He was my first favorite fighter. Thank you, Rich.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, Michael.
@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 2 ай бұрын
One of the best hooks in the history of the sport.
@darryllonsdale
@darryllonsdale 2 ай бұрын
What can I say Rich.That is one massive effort on your behalf.Your hard work is much appreciated. This has to be the most comprehensive documentry that I have seen on Joe.Thank you.Enjoyed this immensely. 🤗👍🥊🇦🇺
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Darryl.
@JoseDiaz-yl9sh
@JoseDiaz-yl9sh 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier the nicest left hook I've ever seen
@Ren_Brands
@Ren_Brands 2 ай бұрын
Frazier is one of my all time favourites. He was a great Boxer and even better Person.
@brittlyle3523
@brittlyle3523 2 ай бұрын
There will never be a greater era of heavyweights. Any of these warriors would beat todays so-called champs. They fought toe-to-toe, blow for blow with very little clenching. Thanks for another great presentation, Rich. You are a Boxing CHAMP in your own right, as your videos will live on as a tribute to the greatest fighters of all time!!!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, Britt.
@a-bovea-ve-rage
@a-bovea-ve-rage 2 ай бұрын
You've out done yourself today Rich I didn't expect two videos especially one being about a legend.Your amazing man
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks, a-above
@v2vroth
@v2vroth 2 ай бұрын
My favorite heavyweight champ , great video thanks Rich🥊🥊
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, Vinny.
@shovelhead56
@shovelhead56 Ай бұрын
I'm 67, Joe Frazier is the Boxer I admire most. Huge Heart and Integrity. Great Expose Rich🤙
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian Ай бұрын
Thanks, D Man.
@jessearias2863
@jessearias2863 2 ай бұрын
Great job rich, you can't do enough on joe Frazier, such a great and interesting life 😊. I first learned about him because of wwf wersling when he was Mr T's trainer. Watched several different DOCS this is a great one. Thanks
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, Jesse. I have a friend who only knows him from Wrestlemania & Starrcade as well.
@jessearias2863
@jessearias2863 2 ай бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian after that the cameo in Rocky 🥊 then al burns tines classic fight shows on ESPN
@nervosadustbolt9642
@nervosadustbolt9642 2 ай бұрын
My favorite fighter of ALL time.!! Thank you, so much!!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, Nervosa.
@marleywills2160
@marleywills2160 2 ай бұрын
Incredible man. Huge heart. Talent, hard work, determination. He grew up working class the hard way, never played victim when life dealt him a shitty card, he still fought through it, it only made him stronger. and those who knew him said he was a really nice man. We can all admire a humble man that came from nothing Plus he gave Ali his first loss. Ali knew Joe would take him to deep waters. Machine. R.i.p the real Rocky.
@Open1
@Open1 2 ай бұрын
Love me some Smokin Joe, Amazing Rich
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Open1
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 2 ай бұрын
LFG fans of Rich’s channel and scholars of the sweet science. Joe Frazier time.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Right on, Gerald.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 ай бұрын
My favorite fighter, all time, bar none. Looking forward to watching this Rich. Thanks in advance.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, TheBatugan.
@goricaj1
@goricaj1 2 ай бұрын
Best heavyweight fight of all time,two undefeated heavyweights and Smoking Joe got him!!!
@bradleylim993
@bradleylim993 2 ай бұрын
The most determined boxer in history besides Hagler
@Gilturner700
@Gilturner700 2 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s a big big statement and it disrespects guys like Robinson, Benny Leonard, Henry Armstrong and many many more.
@bradleylim993
@bradleylim993 2 ай бұрын
@@Gilturner700there are some great contenders like Moore fighting for 10 years before he got his title shot or Armstrong swallowing blood in the Lou Ambers fight. But personally, i just look up to Frazier the most and how he kept getting back up in the foreman fights or the terrible toll he took with Ali.
@Gilturner700
@Gilturner700 2 ай бұрын
@@bradleylim993 Moore fought for over 15 years before he got a shot at the title. He was a MW in the late 1930’s. Second best LH ever behind Ezzard Charles
@GEGBoxing
@GEGBoxing 2 ай бұрын
Brings a tear to my eye just considering what a great, magnificent champion and man Joe Frazier was. Just when you think it cannot get any better Rich The Fight Historian produces this. Thank you.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, GEGBoxing. Yes, Frazier was one helluva champion.
@thikimngavo8341
@thikimngavo8341 2 ай бұрын
小学生の時、担任の先生がボクシング好きで このビッグファイトのTVを 授業中に皆に見せてくれました。白黒テレビでしたが 眩しいライトと 漆黒の汗に光る肌の2人のファイトに感動して夢見る思いでした。 この時のフレイジャー選手は最高に輝いてました。
@jimhattery4348
@jimhattery4348 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Rich!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, Jim.
@mmttomb3
@mmttomb3 2 ай бұрын
Another EXCELLENT doc. Let me tell you when Frazier got smokin, that hook was quick and had tremendous snap. They talk about Mt Rushmore chins. But when it comes to a Mt Rushmore of will and determination, Joe as well as Ali, would definitely be carved in. Reliving that 1rst fight, you realize how brutal it was. Both fighters lost a couple year off that fight. Personal observation. I know that knock down of Ali was a good shot, but that shot at the 49:02 almost broke Ali's neck. Even Joe thought he would fall. Dream match-up, Frazier vs Marciano. What a fight that wouldn't have been. Id go with Frazier. Just too big.
@robertdudley-rx8qo
@robertdudley-rx8qo 2 ай бұрын
this is prolly one of my favorite 1hr:45min:48sec of my life and have watched this several times. i enjoyed this long format docu. very much, ty rich.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, Robert, thanks.
@ClassA8006
@ClassA8006 2 ай бұрын
Wow, time flys. I was 7yrs old in 1971, little girl. My dad was head of the house & he watched sports, including boxing therefore we watched as a family. We had a big , black & white tv. The Wide World of Sports came on. Mom & I support Fraizer, we didn't like Ali talking so bad abt him. Dad & my brothers support Ali. Years later I learned Frazier & Ali were friends outside the ring. Both of them were Champions!
@Gilturner700
@Gilturner700 2 ай бұрын
If the Bonavena fight was scored on points instead of rounds like it was then in NYC, Oscar gets the decision
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 2 ай бұрын
True maybe. But if the first Ali Frazier fight is scored that way, Frazier wins by a bigger margin. I had rounds 11 & 15 as 10-8 each for Smoking Joe. Ali won no rounds 10-8 imho.
@winningwithwarriors9914
@winningwithwarriors9914 2 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Rounds or points the result would be the same.
@Gilturner700
@Gilturner700 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 I was just pointing out the rounds system of scoring is not fair. Of course NY now uses the 10 point must. And losing to Oscar would not have been the end of Joes career. In those days unlike the Mayweather era, a loss was shrugged off and on to The next fight. The history of boxing, aside from the great Robinson and a few others,is filled with guys that lose a few times and go on to a title and all time greatness. Moore, Charles, Louis, Conn, Zale,La Motta and many more lost fights. It’s different now. For some reason if you don’t win every fight, in spite of winning against washed up and inferior opponents, it’s thought of as a catastrophe. End of my conversation Have a great weekend
@tloustrats
@tloustrats 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheBatugan77 Same I had 8 rounds Frazier 5 Ali 2 even but on points 145-140
@EMosby615
@EMosby615 2 ай бұрын
Frazier was tough as nails. Gave Ali all he could handle. But Big George was just a little too much for em but still went out like a man. RIP to one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
@Osman-mj5rf
@Osman-mj5rf 2 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure to meet Mr fraser in Liverpool great boxer.
@garrison6863
@garrison6863 Ай бұрын
The combination that Quarry hit Frazier with at the 1:30 mark was a beauty. What a fight that was.
@racoobi
@racoobi 2 ай бұрын
Best intro to a boxing documentary I have ever seen. That first 60 seconds makes Joe look like one of the greatest, which he was!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, racoobi.
@GTSpeac
@GTSpeac 2 ай бұрын
Nice! - Smokin' Joes episode was overdue
@Steve-xm2ie
@Steve-xm2ie 18 күн бұрын
Always liked and respected Joe Frazier. He was a class act, he always gave 100%. In conducting himself as a gentleman. He also have one of the most underrated left hooks in the history of boxing. He was small for a heavyweight and that eventually caught up with him. He had tremendous heart like all great champions. And just a great guy. And he totally lived the hardships of being a black American of his time. You are a great man Joe. And a great former champion. God bless you sir!
@TFB97
@TFB97 2 ай бұрын
Joe still doesnt get the credit he deserves. No one beat Ali more convincingly. The first fight he was unbeatable.
@ivansalazar5448
@ivansalazar5448 2 ай бұрын
I am still in disbelief as to how Frazier got smoked twice, so easily, by George Foreman...
@johnpittsii7524
@johnpittsii7524 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video Rich ❤
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, John.
@benjohnston3369
@benjohnston3369 2 ай бұрын
Rich, I'm sure people say this all the time, but thank you for documenting the history of both the titans and lesser known competitors in the sport. For someone like me who boxes for exercise, I love learning about the sport and your editing, footage, and narration make it great!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
That's very nice to hear, Ben. Thank you.
@BrainDamageComedy
@BrainDamageComedy 2 ай бұрын
nice work as usual Rich, thanks!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Ovcharka.
@carlstark6857
@carlstark6857 Ай бұрын
Very underrated smokin joe true great for me 👍
@bennyadler5882
@bennyadler5882 2 ай бұрын
If you look closely at Cloverlay sponsoring group photo, I believe you can see Joe Hand Sr, early investor, friend , sometimes sparring partner and quality fight promoter.
@jiji1946
@jiji1946 15 күн бұрын
thank you Rich for this informative piece..... and the extended fight footage. heavyweight contests in that era were such wars, and it's not surprising to see how f*cked up those boxers were in later life, with the exception of George Forman. brutal, I but can't help but be impressed....
@user-uf1cj4yy2k
@user-uf1cj4yy2k 2 ай бұрын
thanks for this video joe was great & beast
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
@lawonbarrett3039
@lawonbarrett3039 2 ай бұрын
Oba Carr from Detroit would be a good documentary. In the mid to late 90's gave all three welterweight champs good fights despite losing to Delahoya, Trinidad, and Ike Quartey.
@holy_braille
@holy_braille 2 ай бұрын
Another banger from Mr. Rich! I really enjoy these long form videos. Impeccable research and footage. You’re the man, Mr. Rich. Thank you.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Holy_Braille
@OldSchoolStrength
@OldSchoolStrength 2 ай бұрын
Cant wait for you to cover The Hilton Brothers mate 👍
@stevet9938
@stevet9938 2 ай бұрын
Great content Rich, thank you. RIP Smokin Joe
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, Steve.
@TomMendoladrums
@TomMendoladrums 2 ай бұрын
Brought me to tears.
@bearxbunny1835
@bearxbunny1835 2 ай бұрын
I could watch Smokin' Joe Frazier hit the speed bag all day!!! He was just different, he will always be in my top 5
@outie-dg8jh
@outie-dg8jh 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this one Rich 🎉💢🔥💥✌️💯
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, outie
@davidbolen8982
@davidbolen8982 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier and Roberto Duran: The two you want with you in a back alley street fight. Beat Ali 3 out of 3 times. Legend of legends. RIP Joe, we love you.
@marymary83436
@marymary83436 2 ай бұрын
Ali beat him 2out of three times
@andiargana8487
@andiargana8487 2 ай бұрын
@@marymary83436nah ali didnt beat him in the third fight joes trainer did stop him for coming in the last round and ali literally told angelo dundee to cut his gloves of in last round but joes trainer stop the fight first
@winningwithwarriors9914
@winningwithwarriors9914 2 ай бұрын
​​@@andiargana8487 You're explanination means what you are trying to deny. Ali beat Frazier in the third bout.
@Cychopath99
@Cychopath99 2 ай бұрын
@@andiargana8487 that was revisionist nonsense 1000%, Ali just won his most dominating round against Frazier ever in that 14th round, had Frazier staggering backwards at the end, sure Ali was tired after such gruelling fight, but he’s still in much better shape than Frazier, he was ready to finish Frazier off in the 15th, mercifully, Eddie Fitch saved Frazier from an even worst ending.
@M.P.R.76-ch8rn
@M.P.R.76-ch8rn 2 ай бұрын
Any extra footage of Smokin Joe Is appreciated 🥊💯
@FB-nw8pp
@FB-nw8pp 2 ай бұрын
Joe Louis the referee, In Joe Fraziers second fight With Jerry Quarry. That's crazy, He was a boxing legend.
@emokellen
@emokellen 2 ай бұрын
Bravo, Rich! Another masterpiece. You are still winning on all of my score cards. The best of KZbin all the way!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, emokellen, I appreciate it.
@towers950
@towers950 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful documentary Rich ! Lots of research and hard work involved much appreciated buddy.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Kim. Yes, this one took awhile.
@michaelzygouras531
@michaelzygouras531 2 ай бұрын
The only boxing t-shirt i printed myself says " smokin' ", Joe's picture underneath.
@robertdudley-rx8qo
@robertdudley-rx8qo 2 ай бұрын
this is one of my favorite shows on earth. thank you very much for what you do rich, i appreciate you.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks, Robert.
@alinewesser8806
@alinewesser8806 2 ай бұрын
Best channel on youtube...thank you so much bro.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks, Ali.
@bennyadler5882
@bennyadler5882 2 ай бұрын
More Ali vs Frazier 1 trivia, a young Jerry Perrencio was the fight promoter, same guy who later innovated successful Spanish language network Univision .
@tomscerbo1588
@tomscerbo1588 2 ай бұрын
Frazier& Marciano would have been barn burner!🥊😯
@davidsandall
@davidsandall 2 ай бұрын
Missing the "Down goes Frazier!.." call from Frazier vs Foreman 1. One of the most iconic calls in history of sports.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I know. I could not use that version.
@davidsandall
@davidsandall 2 ай бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian I figured something like that must be.
@davidsandall
@davidsandall 2 ай бұрын
@RichtheFightHistorian Still very good documentary.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
@@davidsandall Thanks ,David.
@connshawnery6489
@connshawnery6489 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Rich!
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, Conn.
@matthew-jy5jp
@matthew-jy5jp 2 ай бұрын
Rich is back at it uploading the best historical boxing content on here as always. Hands down please. Hope you and family are well brother.
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks, Matthew. Hope all is good with you as well.
@user-dk4se9ys2n
@user-dk4se9ys2n 2 ай бұрын
All these years,I don't think many people realize in the 11th round,Ali was playing like he was staggering and hurt,but he was joking or playing around with Frazier at the time. If you watch closely in the 11th round.
@alpha_trooper8187
@alpha_trooper8187 2 ай бұрын
Dont stop punching till smoke comes out of those gloves. A great quote and great documentary Rich. I love Joe but that bitterness he carried with him was such an unfortunate thing. Do you think that same bitterness held for Ali outside the ring is what lead him to never recapturing the title or was it simply a matter of decline that made Frazier never win that crown for a second time?
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, alpha trooper. I think Frazier's fighting style limited his longevity more than anything else.
@xavierjuno4572
@xavierjuno4572 2 ай бұрын
​@@RichtheFightHistorian Ya as seen with Tyson and Patterson, the peakaboo style of fighting only works for so long
@grbbbc
@grbbbc 2 ай бұрын
All salute Rich the Fight Historian the undisputed King of boxing channels on KZbin no easy feat.
@paulhaig2467
@paulhaig2467 2 ай бұрын
My dream fights at there prime , Frazier vs Tyson and the winner fights Marciano , Epic vid Rich.
@AndrewWilliams-kw6bc
@AndrewWilliams-kw6bc 2 ай бұрын
Let the blood flow
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Paul.
@stephendeluca4479
@stephendeluca4479 2 ай бұрын
Imagine any of the behemoths today fighting like Frazier and Ali did for 15 rounds?
@Ken-Oh.
@Ken-Oh. 2 ай бұрын
no, they are not even close
@stevecvino
@stevecvino 2 ай бұрын
That was a sledgehammer from Quarry that hit Joe at 10:31. Frazier was a beast!
@christopherbellore3511
@christopherbellore3511 2 ай бұрын
Much THANKS to Rich, the Fight Historian. For all of the hard work that he does by passionately putting out the excellent presentations of boxings RICH HISTORY. Bravo!👏 Keep on keeping on, Rich. Life has many battles, and battlefields, and we all need to learn how to Fight the good fight of faith. We all need a strategy, a plan, and an attitude of courage and determination. This channel helps develop all of those things. Tune in, and get ready to learn from the many experiences that Rich brings to us. Enjoy the journey, and learn to fight. ✝🥊🙏
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you very much, Chris. I appreciate all that.
@christopherbellore3511
@christopherbellore3511 2 ай бұрын
@@RichtheFightHistorian As you say, "Its my pleasure." I wanted to make a larger donation, but I was restricted to $15 bucks. I'll be sure to make some more contributions; you deserve it. Sincere THANKS, Rich.
@dominokaitis4483
@dominokaitis4483 2 ай бұрын
smokin joe my favourite heavyweight after kenny norton!
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 2 ай бұрын
KZbin has been deleting comments I leave for some reason but I left one yesterday talking about how great this doc was. They're all great I watch em all but this one was extra great. Thx rich
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure, kuwaitisnotadeployment, good to hear from you.
@albysmoove8974
@albysmoove8974 2 ай бұрын
Best channel on youtube
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Alby
@chriso1585
@chriso1585 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant documentary
@RichtheFightHistorian
@RichtheFightHistorian 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, Chris.
@JosephMiller-hu7bq
@JosephMiller-hu7bq 2 ай бұрын
His heart was that of a warrior of old who wouldve been in the coliseum fighting other gladiators to the death fights , he lost but showed his heart George Foreman how he kept getting up yes he went down but wouldnt stay down , then the 3rd Ali fight he couldnt see but kept coming forward round 14 Eddie Futch figured out he couldnt see but said i can imagine it and Eddie stopped it , they say if he comes out for round 15 he dies and Ali said it was the closet to dying he ever came that fight ended both their careers but watching fighting blind coming forward with Ali hitting with 1, 2 and saying you will go down but Joe kept throwing big left hooks not being able to see but kept coming forward , this is where in ROCKY 2 Apollos trainer said to him i saw you beat this man like i never saw no man get beat and he kept coming after you , that was Joe coming at Ali in their 3rd fight.
@FB-nw8pp
@FB-nw8pp 2 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier is my favorite boxer. Very hard working.
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