Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service

Taken from JRE #1847 w/Theo Von:
open.spotify.com/episode/3IIp...

[@steveonator67]

I am more shocked that people are shocked by this then anything else. If the service is free you are the product, its been this way since the start.

[@Brimikonizzle]

Yea, sounds like he's reading like every single app's terms of service.

[@whatistau]

well put

[@cornbredx]

I was shocked when people didn't care 10 years ago. Now... people are just willfully ignorant.

[@1997Mclovin]

Yeah I imagine it’s the exact same for Snapchat/Instagram, I would care to look but as the guy above me said I’m just wilfully ignorant.

[@ridewithjasonhorvath]

Different when its a Chinese company that works in conjunction with the Chinese government

[@homeygdoggydogg]

Don’t fool yourself into thinking other social media platforms aren’t doing the same thing

[@vperkv6554]

NO DEY ISNT, DAY AINT DOING NUTTIN WRONG, DAY JUS TRYING TO HELP YOU

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@MrBrax]

At least not to China

[@businessbuilder92]

they don't though

[@reeceweston10]

I love how Joe explains things, he doesn't talk to the guest like they're stupid, he doesn't rub it in their face, he just explains it slowly and patiently.

[@Nemes1S_]

Definitely one of his virtues.

[@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605]

Theo Von is a millionaire comedian.. and an actor..

[@f4ust85]

Probably because half of his audience are just on that level and look up to uncle Joe to indoctrinate them with his half-baked freshman wisdom.

[@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605]

@@f4ust85 Why so serious 😡..

[@hugonongbri8100]

Unless the guest is Brenden swaub

[@diy_mushroomguy]

As a kid I can remember ppl saying that computers were like giant spy devices to monitor you. I can remember thinking they were crazy and paranoid. Twenty some years later it's actually worse than what those ppl were saying.

[@markrobertson2052]

I hear ya. It is the biggest mistake to think "things can't get that crazy." Evil is real and it festers in darkness. If this seems crazy, it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[@ETAisNOW]

The military was listening to people through their microwaves a long long time ago, because it’s similar to radio waves, I figured if they can do that then they can use our TVs against us too.

[@420rollinup3]

@@ETAisNOW the way frequencies work is definitely something more extraordinary than the layman can ever hope to imagine. There's memory in everything.

[@ETAisNOW]

@@420rollinup3 it’s absolutely amazing when you really think about it.

[@EGGFlower-]

@@markrobertson2052 damm bro it that poetry, truly eye opening comment

[@mobob456]

Can I just say, huge props to Theo for not pretending to be a know-it-all and actually listening, asking questions, and saying "okay" whenever he learns something new. Too few people do that these days

[@PunkMartyr]

Almost nothing truthful comes out of the guys mouth. Everything he says is a fictional setup for a joke.

[@phoomphgaming5538]

@@PunkMartyr nahhh there’s more there man He’s a a deep genuine guy

[@christianolivas2267]

@@phoomphgaming5538 fr I enjoyed the episode tbh

[@8sixtylabs303]

Theo is a Real Dude #TheRatKing #GangGang

[@Hogsmeat]

Yeah he is so chill and also fun to listen

[@binkleyme]

It's almost like there was a guy trying to ban it a few years ago

[@dylives7667]

And still. But, since it's no longer THAT guy, it's now ok to call them out.

[@anthonyfernandez82]

The older I get the more I realize the term "it's that damn phone" rings true

[@SLIM_DICKINSON]

Trump2020

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbed

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@DUSTINBARTRUM]

“China’s a dump, man.” Lmao

[@dankmatter3068]

it is tho lol

[@B0l0joe]

@@dankmatter3068 I’ve lived here for 10 years and I definitely would not say that. The government however is obviously shady and that’s no secret in any country.

[@dankmatter3068]

@@B0l0joe crazy

[@twiggy1253]

@@B0l0joe It’s a dump man.

[@modmartinez]

🤣🤣🤣 I thought that was so funny too

[@ERIC-bt1qn]

I love Theo. His childlike side banter is the best here.

[@Tootalls92]

Everyone gave Trump a hard time when he wanted to ban tic toc

[@luisvalentin5039]

Exactly. He might be literally insane at times but he's usually spot on. He even predicted Elon pulling out of Twitter (for a first)

[@wayfaringstranger8430]

Everyone above the age of 15 knows TikTok is a Chinese data mining app. This is old news.

[@websterdrums]

@@luisvalentin5039 Theres other things he shoulda pulled out of as well

[@coolguy1127]

A broken clock is right twice a day too

[@tonyg490]

Trump was right about almost everything, and I say this as somebody's who's politics align mostly with Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbert.

[@USALibertarian]

Having a serious conversation with Theo Von may be the greatest achievement in the history of mankind.

[@nymerianan4short314]

Ohh that's Theo Von I thought it was Kevin 🥓 bacon's inbred cousin or something 😅

[@radagast7200]

I always crack up when Jamie has to pull up info that goes against communists. He moans... dude is sus AF.

[@SerenityDreaming]

Yeah he's that influential and that well-connected by being unable to hold a conversation. And Joe Rogan chose him for to talk about this for no good reason.... Half of America thinks he's one of them. Myself included. He's showing everybody we should be asking the same questions with the same concern and disgust. Fox News is out. Those women with their Chanel jackets pontificating out loud, have no idea what they're talking about or who the average tiktok user is. I've never had tiktok. It's so bad.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

@@SerenityDreaming The View?

[@jamesburrell6285]

I have an Obama phone...let that sink in...

[@grassywasss6978]

I love how he actually seeked out this information instead of going off another persons words. I’m not great at doing this at all but we should all try to do this more.

[@Healthnutpb]

@@JupeGiggles Not the sheep

[@elliottb2767]

@@JupeGigglesBro’s definitely born in 2004 🤣🤣🤣

[@JupeGiggles]

@@elliottb2767 I was, you’re right. Birthday tomorrow actually. But my comment was rude and generalizing, I grew this past year

[@JupeGiggles]

@@WithPurpose we all make mistakes

[@elliottb2767]

@@JupeGiggles HAHA bro, i haven’t got a clue what you said anymore. But the funny thing is that I’m born in 2004 as well. Happy birthday for tomorrow brother, mine’s not til July. Happy 20th, not too long til the big 21

[@Andrei-cp5jr]

One reason for collecting this much data about every person might also have something to do with analyzing consumer patterns, the people's political orientation and for tracking movement around the country. They can analyze the population's behavior in order to do better political decisions, or if they are trying to influence the population, they can analyze the data to see if their tactic works and the list goes on. I mean, the opportunities are endless if you know that much about a country and if you can influence its population using your nicely engineered social media app that gets everyone addicted.

[@thedriper2983]

Finally, someone that understands it. It’s not rocket science

[@terrybates9874]

“Chinas a dump man” is the most amazing reply to joes rant about civil unrest 😂

[@IvanOoze1990]

Joe went quiet for like half a second after that.

[@ivanoranrof9577]

Unfortunately, Theo is a low information voter.

[@pookz3067]

@@ivanoranrof9577 so is joe

[@EnduringCrow]

@@pookz3067 woah woah woah.. there's levels to this

[@markymark9516]

Facts hahahah

[@Rifter09]

Joe being interviewed on his own show for an entire clip is pure gold

[@johnulcer]

Joe doesn't interview people though. His show has always been conversations. It's part of what people enjoy about it - sometimes he talks more, sometimes he talks less, all depends on the context and how inquisitive he's trying to be. I've noticed with his comedian buddies he tends to talk more but if he has an author or scientist on he's a lot more respectful of making sure they have time to share their thoughts etc. For all the flak he gets, he's a great conversationalist.

[@wraithstrongopark]

@@johnulcer because his comedian buddies are mostly a bunch of dummies and he has to carry them.

[@Beercenary]

Theos a 4-D chess master.

[@pauljaru2698]

Whatever you say to Theo, he says “OK”, like he’s following. Then he changes the subject: “What do they do when people die over there? Do they bury them or do they not care?”

[@markymark9516]

@@pauljaru2698 hahahaha yeah i think when Theo gets nervous around big names like bill and joe he does this a LOT

[@abuhussein9317]

This guy is so funny I could not stop laughing he was like they get my data now what haha joe tried so hard explaining to him lol

[@ixmini2561]

Haha I was thinking the same thing. This guy seems like an airhead. "You talkin' bout flip phones?"..... "Why do they wanna spy on us though?".... where is this dude from? Lol

[@konkelberryfinn]

Its theos comedic style. He knows this already lel

[@aidenlavallee7959]

@@konkelberryfinn literally lol

[@stacybula7278]

Right!! No clue

[@a.p.5906]

@@ixmini2561 not china jack

[@solitary.confine]

The most addictive is actually jre shorts lol

[@liamwilson8316]

Amen to that

[@CMH_1975]

Got off Facebook over six years ago and never had Instagram, Twitter, and I'll be damned to allow myself to be dumbed down by TikTok. That app is making society more stupid by the hour.

[@Bobby11083]

Yet here you are on KZbin… nearly the same thing.. only difference is the videos have a time limit on tiktok. Imagine being so smooth brained that you think a video sharing app makes people dumb.

[@Keys879]

Good for you, as a fellow FB abandoner, if you read the ToS of other companies and apps such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. They collect this same information.

[@CMH_1975]

@@Keys879 I'm aware. I was talking with my wife the other morning about a coffee alternative called mud water. Later that day, she was scrolling through Facebook and there was an advertisement for it. She had never heard of it before I told her.

[@Keys879]

@James Page Its a very hidden form of addiction. They figured out how to get people, especially younger people, addicted to quick dopaminergic hits. Even if its' stupid, they keep swiping. YT shorts are no different.

[@SonOfLiberty82]

Ditto! Left FB when creepy Joe had his sham inauguration and haven't been on since. Never had all that other crap either, never will. It's all garbage meant to rot your brain and get you hooked

[@Johnny-hn9ts]

I'm shocked how we went from almost banning the app to now seeing their advertisements on TV, NBA Courts, etc. People doing stupid dances...the stupid "challenges" that people do and even end up dying...can't believe so many parents are okay with their kids on it...smh

[@greenmanalishi6963]

Our society is lost. Especially kids these days

[@meganrhode88]

Sounds like Joe's okay with his kids being on it.

[@gbeach85]

Well said, man. See y’all at the apocalypse!

[@275bluedream]

Donald trump knew

[@Jadebones]

They don't allow any of that type of content on TikTok in China.

[@ViktorKlemming]

"Is it good or bad?" "Bad." "So you are saying it's a bad place to be?" Don't know the guest, but he seems smart (Y)

[@cadaverabuse3612]

😂😂😂Go look up Theo von… haha

[@theidiotichungarian]

I had tiktok once for 1-2 hours but deleted it, it didnt really catch me I am glad it didnt

[@SplatRat30L]

I convinced my friend to delete it when i show this video Good thing i only had for a few minutes and guest account

[@Nessa_1990]

You guys realize KZbin and the other social media sites collect your data, right? It's not JUST your location :)

[@Nessa_1990]

@@SplatRat30L LOL

[@Lizzzzzzy921]

I love how Theo thought this was gonna be a conversation about how Tik Tok is fun 😂😂😂

[@IfGodWereEvilHedBeMe]

Fun for pedos

[@matth6299]

He seems super ignorant, just like the masses

[@AlexKomnenos]

I noticed that how oblivious he is. Still confuses me how famous or partially famous people can be so uninformed

[@tricorn]

@@AlexKomnenos famous people are just people.

[@He-who-wakes]

@@AlexKomnenos I know. Almost like he's a normal person or something

[@orwellhuxley6301]

It’s simple. Don’t use the service. The same goes for Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc.

[@tooshady47446ttv]

You think KZbin is any different just outta curiosity

[@hukilausurfer]

But you’re on KZbin?

[@lg654music4]

They put it in TOS is the user fault for not reading it and just checking the check box . There a lot of other social media platform they do the same thing and not telling you, atleast tiktok is transparent

[@deeh6457]

The only difference is …..they are located in and unlimited access given to the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY!! There’s-that…

[@barrysmith4674]

Dustin your not really exposing your person or life on YT it’s pretty anonymous if you want it to be, you don’t come on here to connect with people.

[@justinparker7712]

"Is that the gas station?" I love Theo

[@BullMarketBandit]

I love Theo. What he said about Alcohol was extremely helpful for me

[@cristianh.5133]

Imagine Theo sitting through a whole movie... 'Just tell me how it ends, man!' 🤣🤣

[@qcrew2938]

He probably hates a lot of movies cuz he can't understand them

[@clavo6498]

@@qcrew2938 is what you think

[@andreavanda5402]

What's this dude's IQ?🤪🤪🤪

[@autumneastman8459]

I HATE your picture. I thought there was a hair on my screen. Lmaooooo

[@qcrew2938]

@@clavo6498 ya numbnutz thats why I posted that

[@ashkoninsd]

I love Theo. He’s so funny. Talking about China “I like their food and some of their people” 😂

[@8sixtylabs303]

Even #JackieChan acquiesced to the State

[@SK-xn1pv]

Do you have any idea how many "front" corporations US agencies have in other countries, including China??? DARPA/CIA created the internet. They created all of the social media platforms including Google, Instagram, Alphabet, etc., Amazon & more to surveil and manipulate the public. Of course they want ALL of our data in order to target citizens who resist the tyranny of the federal puppets put in charge by the corporate/banking elites. China, nor Russia is an enemy. In fact, they collaborate with the US to profit the elites and politicians along with the countless private corporations and banks profiting from weaponizing viruses/pathogens, drugs, vaccines, the highly toxic 5G proliferation, as well as those who are part of the military industrial complex. ALL media is controlled by agencies. While this site does provide accurate information, the bigger picture is never addressed; thus, this is controlled opposition like Project Veritas and others. Meanwhile, as they collect data, they continue whitewashing or deleting sites with evidence of crimes against humanity involving US govt while funding fake "documentaries", websites, and mainstream media to push their lies and propaganda. Considering the trail of bodies (researchers, doctors, witnesses, victims, reporters/journalists, mil personnel, whistleblowers, etc.), it is also much safer for Roman to stick to the narrative.

[@tektronix461]

Same. Truly a genuine person and naturally funny storyteller. I will never forget the time he told the story about him locking himself out his apartment high on coke at 3/4 AM with his blender going off and him having to knock on his landlords door 😂😂

[@Jesse-vc2xo]

he literally said the opposite of this.

[@Jesse-vc2xo]

@@413. he said it “the other way around”…. sleep good tonight kiddo.

[@thePatrioticVeteran]

2:24 "FUUUUUUUCK" Theo in the background when it sinks in that they are monitoring his keystrokes LMAO

[@showards80]

The time we were all just chilling watching 60 minutes......priceless thanks guys enjoyed the time

[@leonardocook4444]

“So what is the fbi doing?” Cooperating and seeing how they can implement it here in the US.

[@dragonwarriorz1]

Only good comment.

[@deeh6457]

Not the only one, a-good one nonetheless!

[@justinwright1745]

They already do. They can literally pick up voices on microphones when you’re electronics are off and other freaky shit.

[@TacoJ1LL]

​@@justinwright1745 reptilian

[@voodooreptiles3553]

To late we did that shit long before tik tok LOL!

[@NovaRack]

Joe: TikTok is so terrible! Joe: My kids love it.

[@bsmo9148]

That's a real struggle of being a parent.

[@robertpaulson3674]

Parenting 101

[@swesleyc7]

@@robertpaulson3674 more like parenting 01. Joe needs to take it away.

[@urbangunsurgeon]

Just goes to show how toxic and dangerous these apps really are then dont it. I myself am a parent. I have a 7 year old daughter who currently owns 2 tabs and a smart phone (without sim cards) that all contain apps that keep her glued to the dam things all hours of the day when she is not at school or eating her meals. Much to the disaproval of me... but her mother thinks this is all fine as its what all kids have/doo and if she didnt she would get bullied at school !? Yet my partners eldest girl (from a different relationship in the past) who just turned 19 cuts herself regular as clockwork but mutalating herself is not enough as she also walks around with no selfasteam her head constantly down (some times even at the dinner table) grew up the same way... But i digress, my daughters situation is ok as its normal and just because i dont use fb any more or any other social media apps other than youtube and whatsapp im just out of touch and need not be concerned with things i dont use or approve of. Long story short i often argue with my partner over this subject. Boils my piss lol...

[@groverjuicy]

@@swesleyc7 His name was Robert Paulson.

[@katiereynolds6270]

@ 10:05 “I wonder if uhhh, I’m tryna think what I’m wondering”😂

[@nostalgiaman6816]

I do that so much. It’s like what George Carlin said: “Ever walked into a room to get something and forgot what?” Haha

[@loonytoongt1245]

It’s not just Tik Tok I believe it’s even apps made here in the U.S people just don’t read the TOS including me. There’s a reason why they make the Terms of Service and Conditions so long because nobody will think of reading it they’ll just click through it.

[@coreydouglas4839]

I read the terms of service. As a result, I don't even have banking apps. That being said, I've never had fraudulent activity on any of my payment methods. I work in billing. The number of people who have frequent fraudulent activity on their accounts is terrifying.

[@MrCamaleon7]

Bro, access to your files? To your keystrokes and patterns? Your microphone? What other app does that?

[@jackh.7125]

“This report by very length defends itself from being read”

[@OXY187]

All apps. There is a race going on between corporations. Sorry, not race. It's a war. The war of information. It's been going on since 90s, and now it's more dangerous because now they can track everyone and anyone 24/7.

[@mwhismusic5472]

Absolutely. The money big tech makes on the actual products they sell is basically nothing compared to the money made from the data they collect. Why do you think Elon bought Twitter? He needs the data to develop his AI and he needs it uncensored.

[@UnderARock]

Joe: “Capitalism…communism….social injustice…direct access to private…” Theo: “China is stupid”

[@seetheanimal5867]

China is stupid tho

[@rebelboy69]

That's exactly where the Biden admin is trying to take America. Communist bastards!

[@that1guy899]

He's definitely a man of deep thinking! 🤣

[@bsanders1]

Me: 😂

[@arianna.jenkins]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thevanicant5364]

Theo Von has really become one my favourite entertainers. He doesnt try to be smart or intellectual he is just himself

[@jimmynovak7913]

First off, I love Theo. His podcast work is amazing, 2nd to none. But he’s got you fooled if you think he’s not trying to be funny. Why else do think it takes him so long to get his words out a lot of the time? It’s cuz he’s coming up with it on the spot as he goes. He’s def naturally funny but a lot of his stories are either exaggerated or made up entirely all thought up as he goes. I’ve seen him use different names for the ppl in the same story from podcast to podcast. He def tries REAL hard, too hard sometimes. I can almost tell when he’s back using cocaine based off of how well he flows.

[@thevanicant5364]

@@jimmynovak7913 Well mate I said he doesnt try to be intellectual(or show knowledge in a subject he diesnt know shit about). He is a comedian he has to try to be funny, you know? I have watched Theo since I was like 16(now Im 20) and its been really great to see him evolve frim rookie to established

[@jimmynovak7913]

@@thevanicant5364 Ah I misread what you said there, my bad. Having a slow reading comprehension morning I guess. Lol Theo’s great man. To me he’s the best, everyone else is fighting for second place. Lol

[@thevanicant5364]

@@jimmynovak7913 No probs mate, its been really exciting to his comedic art grow.Get yourself a good ole cup of coffee and u good to go.

[@kodek2000]

Yeah Theo is real.

[@BulletProofSoul1029]

Remember the good ole days when episodes of Black Mirror were considered SciFi?

[@illenreb]

Can u tell me please where did you get that Tiktok Terms and Services, cause when i go through it, I didnt read those kind of terms.. please lay out where is that part so I can direct check on that. What I mean can you show it to us. Hope you wont mind. Thanks

[@kevinnoris9957]

“So what are you saying it’s a bad place to be” Theo is too funny 💀

[@Goldnazarene]

Like fr

[@InsidiousSaint91]

I lost it when he said that lmfao

[@fortune.]

Its called "parroting". Gets the information essentially said twice so the audience is more likely to have digested the information. Theo is not dumb. It's his character shtick that's he's very good at. Hes gotta play it. He repeats in different format or asks questions for confirmation to make sure the information is heard. Joe has a huge platform. He knows how to use it without getting canceled or sued. Most comedians are good at covert delivery of important information shrouded in jokes and naivete or self deprecation. George Carlin is The primary example.

[@JackHoffmanGarage]

I love to see this getting out to more people. I’m 20 and have been telling all of my friends since TikTok started that nothing good will come from it and I’ve always been skeptical of it. They’ve all called me crazy for it.

[@kylethefraggle30]

Same here bud. Stay strong and don't let the pressure get to you

[@sirefromtheshire]

Man at least you’re awake…I worry deeply about anyone under 25 because of the way they treat people and are completely disconnected from the world

[@OrganizationXIII]

@@sirefromtheshire what about all the online underage prostitution going on aka only fans

[@ryannieman4125]

The TOS is all the exact same across most of the apps we use. That's not by accident. Tik tok only stands out because it is a Chinese owned company but it’s a small part of the bigger picture. Tencent is behind almost every app you use, including tik tok. They are large investors/part owners in pretty much every social media app/website. Tencent is also a Chinese owned company and under chinas new laws, they must share all there information with the government. This was all part of a bigger plan. Tencent is owned by the Chinese government, Tencent monitors everything we do through every app. It’s much scarier if you really look into it.

[@kevinpeterwareham8131]

Mostly 2 legged sheep.

[@hurricanehubbs9459]

Wow, my heart dropped when he said key stroke logger. I knew there was some fishy stuff going on, but I didn't realize it was on THAT level. These kids are just blindly walking into a trap without any idea what's going on.

[@andyd834]

I literally got laughed at by my family last night for this. My fucking niece made a joke about the ccp stealing my info and my family just thought it was hilarious.

[@mekler6406]

How can you not know this? Pretty sure every government does this aswell...

[@hurricanehubbs9459]

@@mekler6406 fair point, I think I thought there would be some level of accountability, regulation, or oversight, but that was probably wishful thinking

[@adilejaz9227]

The thing is I've seen a movie where people were stealing data on apps that you download and the money that they make of stealing data is very cruel they even steal credit card money everything which its true after Facebook every social media apps and games steal all the data from u

[@lydellackerman800]

@@hurricanehubbs9459 do not trust any buisness with your info. they can and will use ANY information about you, as well as store it. google and facebook are the worst, but i personally treat every company the same. fuck these massive companies.

[@joshuamontijo4359]

Joe is the king of seeing a meme & pretending it’s an “article” he read

[@AwokenEntertainment]

Glad to hear Joe speaking on this 💯

[@ryanthompson1244]

I appreciate a beautiful woman as much as the next guy but to me TikToc just seems like a bunch of THOTs dancing like strippers. Being hot is not a talent. I scrolled through looking for cool content and 70 percent of the submissions were girls dancing. I wanted a talent show but got a pg rated strip club. TikTok is a toxic cesspool with little redeeming qualities.

[@ptrmjstr8041]

yeah google never did that 🤣

[@davidbriggs8863]

But strangely not about US ownership of their TikTok Global with almost all Americans on the board. Ev en Wwalmart has a stake. Just ask siri about American investment in TikTok.

[@CS-kk4tm]

Joe is literally 10-15 years too late to be talking about this.

[@sonofJurell]

"Some Chinese are cool and I like some of their food." This man is gold.

[@Tom-mx4eq]

Wow so that’s all it takes for someone to be Gold……To like their food and a couple people of their culture?? That’s the best you got???🤣😂

[@sonofJurell]

@@Tom-mx4eq Yes, that's all it takes, my little fruity!

[@donwhiteproductions7309]

@@Tom-mx4eq you're taking it too seriously. He's saying he enjoys his humor.

[@domanikmoyer]

@@Tom-mx4eq you must’ve been the center of every party

[@camerontait9132]

You know he means Jackie Chan and Dim Sum.

[@leroyhill7117]

Lol I thought he was talking about Facebook and the NSA/FBI haha

[@jamesking1482]

Theo is one of the most genuine and intrinsically smart people out there. He is very abstract and lehman when sharing his internal world in an almost poetic sense. Over here he's hanging out with a close buddy and when you're with your buddies you check them and tone down the seriousness. It's all about a fun time.

[@CFLDumpsters]

Joe wasn’t gonna let Theo get off track 😂 Theo’s brain is like herding cats. Joe was fighting to keep that convo on track. 😂 I love Theo dude is funny but joe is serious when on his podcast.

[@scummydummy]

Herding cats 🤣 🤣 that's a hilarious description.

[@fredflintstone6729]

Using one of theos lines 'like a deaf jack Russell" 🤣

[@Jo3W3st]

I just think he doesn't care like most people who are 35 and younger.

[@calebtheholyman545]

Seriously this shit was infuriating

[@iamrenvik1522]

Theo just isn't grasping the severity is he People say hes intelligent and funny hes just a stupid guy who says outrageous thoughts he has with no filter that amuses the audience hes among

[@TheBasketballInvestigator]

The crazy part about it is that they're openly getting away with crime because people consent to this without realizing or caring in order to use the damn thing. What they're doing is completely legal, as criminal as it is. It's evil genius. The entertainment is not worth the cost of your privacy and likely others you are connected to.

[@luv2travel2000]

Well said. Because it seems everyone is on it, I was planning to sign up for Tik Tok. But, not after this!

[@valerieickstadt4044]

Either I'm to stupid or to old (32) for tiktok. I once had it, for Like 3 days, it was so boring that i deleted it. Same with Snapchat, Twitter and Facebook. I Love Instagram for online Shopping tho, i've found Shops i wouldn't have found otherwise.

[@Whats-It-To-Ya]

I'm 38 and very oldskool. I avoid ALL of this social media trash like the plague. I'm a human being while most people are robots. There aren't many human beings like myself out there anymore. KZbin (obviously) is as far as I'll go as far as screwing around online is concerned. Keep your private info FAR AWAY from that online social media trash. Sorry, not sorry.

[@edwardmoyna3469]

People that use just agree to the terms of service without reading them.

[@clickityclackity75]

I spent like four days looking at it, during the first Covid issue. Once I saw how advanced the propaganda was, I immediately deleted it ! I’ll never pull it up again !

[@JCF-eh7rx]

Thanks for discussing this topic.

[@martymcyourflysdown6872]

They already have your information and/or can easily access it regardless of if you use social media or not.

[@ryanmontague3377]

"I'm trying to think what I'm wondering" - Never change Theo

[@micaelagarcia4922]

We have to protect him at all costs.

[@diegobermudez8102]

I mean aren't we all? Lol

[@senoow4215]

@@diegobermudez8102 yeah he just put it in words

[@mattgraham1983]

It's easier to control people when you know everything about them...

[@dylives7667]

That's actually the app's purpose back home. That place is practically City 17.

[@grabagrabba]

check mate.

[@oswurth8774]

This is so deep oml

[@rexharrison1937]

And own current and future politicians

[@MattCarvin]

“Is it good or bad?”, just immediately asks, with complete sincerity in his voice .. 🤣🤣

[@50shades_of_memez]

This is like Elon musk trying to talk to Joe Dirt 🤣😂

[@ethanjose3529]

I’m weakkkk 🤣

[@NoztrozeR]

People really underestimate how much you can do with enough data on a person. First of all, think of ALL the things you've searched. It could be medical conditions, curiosities, sexual interests, whatever. That's one thing they would snatch up. Next, there's a common use for big data, that is to combined all data on you to make a profile, like a digital version of everything you think, do, want etc. Major corporations usually use that for advertising (Let's put aside the morality of that for now). Now, all that data tracking everything about you, knowing how to make you tick, how to play into your fears, what you want to hear, what you don't... ALL of that can be used to create algorithms. Those algorithms will then be used to MANIPULATE you in every way in everything you do. Most people have NO clue just how much manipulation they are exposed to on a daily basis. And to think of that being in the hands of an authoritarian regime, whose stated goals are to control everything and everyone. To overwhelm the democratic countries and to extend their ideas and authority into the world. THAT IS FUCKING FRIGHTENING.

[@ksc743]

You nailed it. George Orwell was right. Frightening.

[@beatsbygoldie2383]

It’s not just China tho. Instagram,KZbin etc are all known for their algorithms + selling data to the government etc

[@chadgardnerdds3197]

Not just TikTok but all social media can change your mood, thoughts, beliefs, ideals, etc by what it feeds you. I believe the biggest effect is distraction…

[@KingCrypn]

Basic mind control

[@brednbudr2406]

Very true. Sadly Google has already been doing it for our own government, for years. One of the founders tried to cover up the fact that they can track every search made, for years. Long enough that when it was revealed, no one cared.

[@VentiDecimi]

I never thought anyone would ever read the terms of service of the platforms we use every day, props to Joe for having done so!

[@readingtips2690]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@readingtips2690]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@dylives7667]

You're pretty much held at gunpoint to mark the TOS Agreement to access any service. That should be enough incentive to do so.

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@lovel7838]

Let's be Honest We knew it Let's be Honest We knew it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWO2ZYmjnauJnbc

[@jeannalistens]

I wish Joe would have had this critical conversation discussed w/ another guest.

[@recjr7685]

Ironically, I got a tiktok add while watching this video

[@ChrisEj_The_Broly]

noooooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 whaaaattt

[@destinypabon3426]

Have you heard the creepy one? It's like a dude jumping into a lake or pool and the song says or sounds like it's saying "Give me your life" SO SPOOKIE

[@latergator9622]

Theo: I’m wondering… Joe: What’re you wondering? Theo: I’m tryna think what I’m wondering 😂😂

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

Just like me going through menopause 😂

[@vidgar9615]

Joes giggle after that 10:08

[@GasStationEncounters]

Yessss!!! Theo is always a good episode.

[@ahhReno]

here for attention i see

[@Adankam]

Love your channel

[@0ptimal]

I wonder if he looks at the counter when he walks in

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5LXcqyqhZJmlck Last Fight

[@niggasinanutshell6590]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5LXcqyqhZJmlck Last Fight

[@Sk1pedstage]

And this is why i will never get TikTok

[@imitationsofmyself]

I'd been having dreams and feeling social pressure about getting an account on Tik Tok. After seeing this video it has fully convinced me NOT to get a Tik Tok. The amount of data they get from their users is...frightening.

[@imitationsofmyself]

You guys I've been contaminated!!! My cellphone company sent me a replacement phone and it had Tik Tok PREINSTALLED on it!!! I uninstalled it immediately.

[@technoking8386]

Please have one episode with an expert going over every major social medias privacy policies to expose every social medias “Privacy Policies” and explain how each is vulnerable to give everyone a chance to wake up to the freedoms they give away. It is in no way limited to TikTok unfortunately.

[@Kimmbaap]

If they did that you'll be seeing many familiar US companies in that list. Every company that provides a "free" version tracks your info to earn from you.

[@erikleith4670]

I know joe acting like we ain’t known this since the first time we turned on our first phone and it said agree to terms and services

[@rampage3337]

there is a diffarance between the data. both USA and china uses your Data for evil but China is just the bigger evil of the two. while USA has to atleast atempt to follow human rights laws. china has no such obligation att all.

[@ardadavidian6521]

Great suggestion

[@Kimmbaap]

@@rampage3337 what is the connection with human right laws. This is more about not letting China collect data on their people through TikTok. The US doesn't bother as long as they are the ones collecting your data.

[@nonequivalence1864]

As a seasoned software engineer: Tik Tok is one of the absolute BEST pieces of software ever invented. It's resilient, it never goes down, there are never any issues with the app, flawless business model & it's incredibly addicting. You just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling until you find the next video that can give you that dopamine rush you're looking for. Talking from experience - this is no different than sniffing coke. Once you bag is done, you call the dealer to get another bag in order to feel that rush of dopamine that you felt when you sniffed for the first time that day. Yes, I sniff coke occasionally (not proud of it) and I'm telling you this no different from using the app. Also, just to make things clear: Tik Tok isn't the only app that steals all of your info. 99% of iOS and Android apps do the exact same thing but they're more discreet about it. The difference between those apps and Tik Tok is that Tik Tok is very addicting while the other app aren't at all which why you never hear about the other apps. IMO, Tik Tok is a very, VERY dangerous drug and it should be labeled as such. Trump did the right thing when he said he wanted to get rid of it. It's seriously damaging the development of children at a pace and at a caliber mankind has never witnessed before while the company cashes in their billions of dollars.

[@australianemu6207]

Who asked again

[@crazyboi8969]

@@australianemu6207 someone that has the cappacity to understand which clearly isnt you

[@DavidKFZ]

@@australianemu6207 me

[@DavidKFZ]

How do you know TikTok isn’t as invasive as it’s made out to be? Is it as invasive as Facebook was during its golden era of ads, more so, or less so? If you have the answers

[@nonequivalence1864]

@Beery Yeah that's true, good point.

[@Ihavenohandle....]

It's kind of difficult to tell someone "no" when you owe that person a trillion dollars they kind of own you.

[@bobhilton9004]

Joe is a example of a person who smokes weed responsibly and Theo is one who smokes that stuff everyday.

[@owencarroll709]

theo has been sober for almost two years now i believe. theos just funny.

[@Micloren]

Worked for a mid sized company that had nonconsumer operations in China. Even our stuff was fully replicated for purchase on Chinese websites. Stuff you just wouldn't expect anyone to waste their time ripping off. Funny thing is... our Chinese workers in the USA refused to buy any tools or things from China. In their words, "It terrible quality!" lol

[@exspiravit6920]

The CCP have NO BALLS. You can model yourself and steal until you're blue in the face, but all they are is a good enemy for us. I'm glad they do what they do. They can't innovate because you have to use imagination and free thought to do so.

[@bestkoreanjesus]

Asians so honest they telling you what they are doing up front. Meanwhile Facebook, IG, Twitter, has been doing it for years but they'll just say "data breach" when they sell it to other people. Its hilarious. The corporations and government is not your friend. No matter what country you're in.

[@King_Immanuel]

@@Chkprofilename I enjoyed this ratio

[@sourceawry4035]

Yep. My brand new $3,000 fridge lasted less than 5 years. My $1500 washer lasted less than 3. We are now using my husband's parents' old fridge that we took to put in our garage as a back up. We picked up an old kenmore washer for free that someone put out for trash. Both work fine, and I don't care that they don't look new if they effing do their job. I will not buy appliances like dime bags. I do not care if it is inconvenient or if people have an issue with it, I work too hard for my money to be made a chump by these sellouts. I hope the big brands who ran off to kiss China's ass get it all taken by the CCP, so we can start some new companies and get back to value and quality. Then they have the nerve to push this green new deal bullshit, while shipping in appliances made of dollar store plastic from a country who hates us, so they can grow the golden goose middle class they slaughtered here at home. All of them will be lucky to escape with their heads, if Americans can pull their heads out of their own retarded asses in time. Cheers!

[@PNWGuitar]

Can confirm this to be true from a Canadian retailer that has many Chinese customers. They WILL NOT buy Chinese products to

[@l.s.3100]

Never touched tiktok. Deleted FB, IG etc, over 5 years ago. Blows me away the information people are just willing to hand out.

[@ethank5384]

The moment you bought your phone you started handing out information.

[@insigniamalignia]

fun fact: facebook knows almost all of your browsing history and activity on websites... even without an account or having ever having visited facebook. how? you know that "like on fb" or "share on fb" button on websites? those buttons actually run a script that reports back to fb info about your activity. and it's been figured out how to generate a digital "fingerprint" of your device just by visiting a website, so even if you never visited facebook, moved to a new country, cleared your all your browsing data... they can still theoretically match you to a private, auto-generated profile of you. unless multiple people use your device, not sure how that'd work but i'm sure they have something figured out for that.

[@emanuelcaparelli]

I did the same, but I realized the other day that I use the free version of AVG which for sure tracks my shit, and not to mention all the other various apps. It's got to be nearly all of them at this point. I'm not too sure what the solution is.

[@l.s.3100]

@@ethank5384 I disable all tracking through the developer mode on android. I know it's not 100%, but nothing is these days.

[@l.s.3100]

@@insigniamalignia haven't had FB installed on the past 3 three phones. Haven't like a post in over 5 years. Everything FB has on me is outdated at this point.

[@JunaSSB]

A dev would know how easy that info is to get because all of our devices provide that info through system or browser APIs. TikTok and every other app takes whatever data can be avaliable to them, and they even have to ask for permission to access sensitive device data like files.

[@pisceandreams5893]

I've had 3 inventions in the past few years stolen from me. I said them out loud and talked to people about them,,, months later they are being advertised for.

[@lateralus5925]

what Theo is talking about when he describes the "abandoned" high rises are not actually abandoned at all but properties that were built in anticipation of high real-estate demand because owning property is one of the few things the Chinese people can do to invest into retirement. They are having a huge housing crash similar to our 2008 right now and thats why they are parking tanks in front of banks... people are trying to pull their money out and they are defaulting on loans on purpose as a means of protest. Things are getting pretty crazy over there. KZbin tries to censor a lot of the videos about the topic or demonetize/age restrict. Keep talking about it boys :)

[@GUILLOTINE_GANG]

The "tanks in front of banks" has been proven false by many different sources. Keep spreading that misinformation boys, sure that will help us....

[@trxpster1851]

Where do you find this info if it’s being censored everywherr

[@TheRealRyanMickens]

Which is why everybody should be buying AMC stock (not financial advice), our own market is about to implode as well

[@christiancarson2571]

@@trxpster1851 there’s a wall street journal article about it

[@donsolos]

They over produced real estate/infrastructure to inflate their GDP and yes the investing in real estate in china is what all the rich do. It's one of the few things they have control over

[@2988jake]

The data they collect can also be used to reverse engineer someones 2 factor authentication. Which is especially dangerous if they target high level government employees.

[@matthewsmith1994]

They already have

[@virtualmoyda7221]

I'm sure one of their main targets it trying to acquire all data on quantum computing developments and encryption considering the power and speed of such devices to process data and protect info.

[@YesPlease1]

And basically any person's stock or crypto account passwords. Scary

[@sarahwales6276]

Why would they need to target them? They are in bed with high level Government employees, they are helping the CCP to take over.

[@2988jake]

@@sarahwales6276 my point was more about the 2FA than who they were targeting.

[@slashertrav]

2:20 is the best Brent Krishna impression I’ve ever heard

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

The guest reminds me of a friend. I enjoyed their talk.

[@IsakKazazic]

as a developer I can state that absolutely every app does this

[@RealMTBAddict]

Not apps on F Droid.

[@mhubert1778]

So every app funnels your data to the PRC?

[@IsakKazazic]

@@mhubert1778 sure, for the right money

[@mhubert1778]

@@IsakKazazic True that but these folks are in house.

[@nogerboher5266]

Wrong. Not even close lol... Most apps just collect superficial data for ad purposes, they don't have fucking keyloggers and other spyware, adware, trackers or web beacons LITERALLY BUILD INTO THEM like TikTok does...

[@nickmac5953]

Theo kills me… “There’s some cool people and I like some of their food” 🤣🤣🤣

[@florisr9]

Truth is, he doesn't like 'their' food, he likes western food called 'Chinese food'. Actual Chinese cuisine is garbage.

[@mofishin2648]

The way he just dropped China is a dump was gold

[@mynameiskurpesh4287]

Anyone else cracking up at Theo saying that Chinese city 💀😭

[@philipmitchener28]

This literally popped up in my feed after talking to my coworker about TikTok being Chinese spyware.

[@dustinlewis24]

This is a perfect example of two guys in the same room having two completely different conversations. One's talking about cell phones the other ones talking about a gas station

[@mikeymike9926]

mfers brought what looks like a nascar driver to discuss digital privacy

[@voodooreptiles3553]

You didnt pay much attention.

[@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297]

But, some gas stations sell cell phones.

[@MisyeDiVre]

I've never said this to anyone else before; nobody wants your cream filling Twinky!

[@eugenecrawley4897]

OMG did you see Elon Musk meets Post Malone video yet?! They are such a funny duo!! LMAO

[@MalkyTalky]

It was like watching Rogan struggling to explain the seriousness of a situation to a 10 year old.

[@JPDillon]

More like a golden retriever.

[@kendrickwright7237]

OMG did you see Elon Musk meets Post Malone video yet?! They are such a funny duo 😁LOL

[@1MaximusDecimusMeridius1]

Seriously

[@briellebardot5252]

Hey don’t insult 10 year olds 😡!

[@DavidMartin-qt1fx]

WRONG. CLICHE...

[@rocketloob449]

"what are you wondering?" "im tryna think what im wondering" 200 iq brain in action

[@arielmetamorphosis]

Joe needs to get an app developer in the podcast, a cyber security expert as well

[@harismusanovic6730]

I know right. Some of this stuff he’s blowing far out of proportion and other stuff he’s got a valid reason to be scared.

[@andreivilla9009]

I’m an app developer and this type of data collection is standard across the board.

[@rachbell8915]

@@andreivilla9009 that's what I suspected and am appreciative of you

[@nubiancaynes2128]

I don't think he's blowing it out of proportion. He's scared of the slippery slope...there's a reason we value privacy. The fact that it's standard and mostly unused doesn't really address the issue...

[@andreivilla9009]

As a developer, it’s useful to troubleshoot and diagnose issues easier. Ex, app crashes, is it device specific, how did it happen, any specific characters that we may not support or formatted correctly. I haven’t thought of any useful cases to use that data, but in malicious hands it could most definitively be used to undermine someone.

[@keenanlarsen1639]

"I'm tryin' to think what I'm wondering..." Classic Theo von moment. 🤣

[@yamster88]

Over a year later and the “news” is just now talking about this issue

[@royallion3925]

To this day I still don’t have that app on my phone. I’m one of them ones 💪🏽🤣

[@josephhorne1426]

Theo’s train of thought hits a switch track like every thirty seconds 😂

[@randyjarrell4611]

He's smoking the ganja but still sober

[@williamswiniuch7527]

That’s why him and Burr aren’t compatible lol

[@tabithablalock]

He's a burnt chicken nugget 😆

[@anthonymichaeldurkin6244]

31

[@andreavanda5402]

@@MakeMoneyOnlineWithEmma 🤪

[@GlenAltman]

Theo - “just tell me how it ends man” Also Theo - “Chinas a dump man” 😂

[@wtlandry2]

The only thing I'm shocked about, is people's uncontrolled desire for fame and fortune. And they perceive it in any new digital platform they can get ahold of. Not caring what they gave up to chase it. I do not feel bad for people who cross this threshold. They will be culled off eventually. That's where this is all headed.

[@jblase5410]

“I’m tryna think what I’m wondering” lmao classic theo

[@bean5]

Joe is like Ron Swanson learning about cookies.

[@jocpowell1]

Aghhhhhh, this for me

[@Nawalta]

Yuup

[@JasonClar2302]

Is Ron Swanson a spook who plays dumb? I'm not familiar with the character

[@r.m2192]

@@JasonClar2302 He’s a TV character

[@seabass580]

@@JasonClar2302 thats a Ron Swanson thing to say

[@travisdray1221]

I am always impressed, and slightly concerned, by how easily I find myself watching Reels or Shorts endlessly. I don't do TikTok, and most of the stuff seems to get put onto YT and IG anyway, but man. I go to look at my phone for like 5 minutes, all of a sudden I'm there for an hour + pissing time away. Shit is the devil lol

[@bluecollar825]

For sure. Not impressed tho, more like disappointed with myself lol. Im glad I came across this tho because I thought about starting a channel for the family dog, smh, I know that is pretty cliche but the dude is really such a character I can't see people NOT laughing at alot of the shit he does. Especially when compared to the other video on there lmao. But I agree, its easy to flip through them and lose track of time.💯

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

yeah but you learned a lot in that hour tho

[@wangboi69]

There's nothing impressive about that though

[@Gruso57]

@@wangboi69 There is actually. Its called social engineering. It's designed so people stay on it for hours and it works. Its impressive in an evil way

[@kewltony]

Take my lunch break, take too long, Too long on my lunch break, And they sent me home, On the Adam Friedland Show

[@theredrooster7143]

Finally got my wife to delete tik tok. Thank you Joe Rogan.

[@ILIASANASTASIS]

This dude definitely is not the sharpest pencil in the drawer 🤣

[@mikeadams3840]

Joe is like that friend you call up to win an argument 😆

[@cameronmachado1774]

Joe should call up his friend Elon to talk about his 50-50 deal he made with China to start manufacturing there

[@EikottXD]

@@cameronmachado1774 we found the nut job. Also what makes you think they're friends 😂

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

He's my phone a friend for WWTBAM!

[@rackinfrackinvarmint]

So, you would lose so many arguments lol

[@doctornovocaine5156]

@@EikottXD what makes you think he's a nut job.

[@ProperlyOffensiveSh1t]

This is the main reason I never downloaded that app. When I used to bid government machining contracts, I wasn’t aloud to have any foreign apps on any devices I used for work. Which included my phone. And I was asked by fbi/cia specifically if I had EVER HAD tik tok downloaded. They said if I ever had it, even if I deleted it, the device would still be compromised.

[@Lol-mf7ob]

I mean... if you use Android you can take away the "storage, microphone" and other permissions with your settings. And that part about keystrokes, I'm sure it only happens when the app is om ie when you're searching for something on the app. If it isn't on I'm pretty sure it can't do shit

[@jangolub8240]

If you download it and then delete it, does it has those rights forever?

[@unorthodoxy9588]

They bury quote on quote updated drivers within system memory for one. Or said third party driver is baked with extra software. They can hide sniffers in headers on a ssd or nvme. It shows that the ssd or harddrive is * clean* but they have created a hidden space undetectable even with top-tier tools. Yup, a created void even with 1 gig of space and it's masked as being enterally clean. I heard through varies channels that Microsoft and others got busted for taking bribs/favors from several Countries sense 2001ish ( that wouldn't surpise me honestly)...Which is interesting and makes sense now considering. Heck, back in 1996 in PC Magazine they interviewed a few top dogs, and acknowledged back then about middle-men boxes within all ISP suppliers. And yet we still play stupid and listen to media or articles on how little Timmy in Florida broke into DOD data bases and had millions of user accounts..riiight.. Yet I warned folks for years and was called paranoid. On board chipsets or even * intel or nvida had millions of docs hacked or sold months ago to a few years, Yet media were crickets. They even have the architecture on new projects now. I have been using tweaks for a while, But got pointed to one recently that opened my eyes. I was actually blown away on the close to 90 ways my pc to other devices still reach out constantly. The tweak was free, but I tell everyone to be careful with them. Tweaks can break a system were you need to repair. I advise anyone to be smart and get their hands on a stripped down version of Win if possible or jump ship. It will still take some moderate know how in some cases. But many like myself might be taking the plunge with Linux type systems/bare knuckled frames. Even then its questionable unless sandboxing sessions which still can upload if not behind a harden network. stay safe

[@ProperlyOffensiveSh1t]

@@Lol-mf7ob it can probably still record keystrokes in other apps if you accidentally leave it on in the background.

[@ProperlyOffensiveSh1t]

@@jangolub8240 I don’t know how the tech world works in detail. But I do know china doesn’t value US privacy, patents, etc. If it doesn’t specifically state you give permission until deletion of app, or some other time frame, china would most likely consider your agreement to be indefinite.

[@christiandowning6634]

*gets an ad for Tiktok in middle of video*

[@BobSmith-vj5kz]

how in the fuck is this the best clip from a THEO VON conversation?

[@Cliporis]

BTW this is one of the reasons why I put JRE over all other podcasts I absolutely love. On other podcasts comics come prepared to do and say funny stuff, and on JRE they just arrive and there's not that much pressure to do a successful funny act, and yet they rarely fail. And we learn a bunch! Sidenote: I wish Theo was more often on Joe Rogan Experience!

[@kevindube7096]

Joe doesn’t like having Theo on too much because he actually makes jokes and says shit that can be actually hilarious

[@BRLambert4]

Yeah bc Joe already has specific talking points to go over. How is this authentic Convo ?

[@Thawhid]

@@BRLambert4 shut up it was informative and relaxing 😌

[@NoThankYouToo]

Theo is a soulless sociopath, and he’s the direct reason my cousin is dead.

[@BRLambert4]

@@Thawhid I am listening to the entire episode right now on Spotify. I paused at 21 minutes to respond to you. He has already completely controlled the Convo and crushed most of Theos jokes by talking about; the eviction moratorium in CA being bad, universal income being bad, how a good guy with a gun would more often be the case if more people bought and carried guns, and tried to convince Theo to buy a third gun since he only has 2. 21 minutes in so far. They haven't even got to the Tik Tok part yet. Coincidentally, Spotify and Tik Tok have specifically been talked about in many tech articles and magazines and that they are in competition for Gen Z audience (which more audience means moremoney) If you won't even consider that this podcast has slowly morphed into one long form propaganda program, then good luck to you

[@DeeNimmin]

Joe “I just learned how social media really works” Rogan

[@seetheanimal5867]

That is not social media that is chine government 🤦🏽‍♂️ not the same

[@noi8017]

@@seetheanimal5867 that is social media. Facebook does the same. Facebook owns instagram. It isn’t the government either it’s people like mike. Zuckerberg

[@seetheanimal5867]

@@noi8017 no it’s China. On servers IN CHINA accessed by Chinese government people. You win dummy of the freaking day.

[@seetheanimal5867]

@@noi8017 is that boomer stupid or gen z stupid can’t tell could be either 👀

[@noi8017]

@@seetheanimal5867 why you deleted ur comment

[@misslin7161]

I have never had a facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Tik Tok account. When people started going on Facebook and "following" other people's accounts and accepting/denying "friend" requests because it made them feel more significant in society somehow, I got creeped out and had no desire to be apart of those type of "social" (I say "stalker"), platforms. I do NOT understand why anyone would be so interested in the personal details of so many others...or why anyone else would want to know or care about everything i'm doing all the time. When my daughter showed me the "friend request" portion and how it was constantly tracking and combining every user to as many other users, I knew that we had all passed the point of ever retaining any real online privacy ever again. It no longer exists.

[@TheMJ5779]

The craziest thing is how fast they sell the data because you can watch something on a streamer and then a website with a different parent organization will have that ready for you. Unless it’s all microphone based but it’s probably both

[@Brandon-hk3xg]

The end goal is to use private information "data" to predict human behavior in order to have complete control over living men, women and children. Ultimately to control thought.

[@mattb6646]

This is the ultimate end goal, yet even reasonable people will call you crazy for pointing out moves that are a few steps ahead.

[@Brandon-hk3xg]

@@mattb6646 Is not their fault, they're just programmed that way.

[@MrKh4Ot1k]

How can you do that?

[@swoops41]

It’s more to be able to sell you things, but sure

[@mattb6646]

@@swoops41 yes that's today's reasonable excuse, but think about where this type of data collection goes over the next 30 years with constantly improving supercomputers and AI.