Joe Rogan & Billy Corgan on Chicago Gang Violence

Joe Rogan and Billy Corgan discuss the violent history of Chicago, and how it relates to it's current problems with gun violence.
Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1038.

[@rhysperegrine5100]

Billy might be the hero to clean up the city. He already has a cape.

[@PaulMcMinotaur]

Funny

[@30secondvideos91]

Not all heroes wear capes... In this case, he does

[@fakeeru6783]

he could be like One Punch Man or something... :)

[@moncorp1]

No one is going to clean up that corrupt, dimocrat controlled cesspool. That space alien looking mayor sure hasn't helped with all her defund the police nonsense. How's that working out for ya?

[@Pseikermann]

@@fakeeru6783 bro one punch man goes in there trynna knock ppl out he getting hiss ass shot, idc who it is even mike tyson aint that quick it’s hundreds of idiots shooting at one person

[@Scarecrow21]

Chicago is the real life Gotham with no Batman

[@patrickmanway290]

You know the dark knight was filmed there.

[@moncorp1]

Chicago's murder rate is the same as its always been. There is no big explosion. Look it up. Easy to find.

[@IsaacTuduriLlabres]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mattsheezy5469]

Poor people crapping out unwanted kids is the problem. These “women” allow random guys to blast off without contraception, & the kids grow up feeling worthless with no father, no money, support, or guidance.

[@Titos_Tales]

i work as a rideshare driver and talked to a statician from univ of chicago who was working on tracking the shootings for cpd. he told me the main cause for much of the violence is facebook disses. everything gets escalared from there. he said its astonishing how fb is involved

[@Rlyeh_The_Dead]

That won't show up on any MSM sources. Unless you say it's the Russians forcing black people to diss each other on Facebook.

[@scoobydoo6836]

Drill Music

[@zoticus1]

That's the medium of communication, not the cause. You need violent people to do that.

[@theclassicmanila-style8435]

Bunch of stupid people with a mix of stupidity in facebook

[@jim_dog]

Drill music is the main driver along with social media.

[@Joesfosterdogs]

easily on of Joes BEST guest...love this cat! you would never know he was a famous lead singer...no ego energy...real dude...david lee roth is equally smart, but always the entertainer...not billy, just a dude

[@Paul-dw2cl]

Billy is probably a little bit smarter than Diamond Dave, but Dave definitely is smart

[@KurtI2525]

Yeah, DLR is always “on.” Always the entertainer, who also entertains himself.

[@KurtI2525]

@@Paul-dw2cl Dave is a genius, of sorts.

[@alyxi]

The world is a vampire

[@MrBeaux]

Sent to dra-a-a-a-ain!

[@PurpleMintSam]

Secret destroyers . .

[@alord266]

hold you up to the flames 🔥

[@deftones2684]

lol I don't know why but I fell out of my chair when I read ur comment.

[@tripp8833]

penis

[@hippsgary]

"I miss my home." I had to rewind that. The guy felt that. Edit: Written on 9Jan2021. Those who have witnessed the past 8 months (or 4 years... or 12 years) feel the magnitude of his statement.

[@youtubeepicuser4209]

He said “I mean it’s my home.”

[@notanotherjamesmurphy5574]

*HE SAID “I MEAN,” GARY!!*

[@Richard-yy8wu]

That Chicago shot clock is putting up numbers like Jordan

[@ChicagoTRS]

One of the big drivers for the violence in Chicago was closing all of the big housing projects. They spread the violence throughout the neighborhoods in the city and caused a lot more turf wars. Where one gang would run a project and it was a clear boundary, now gangs fight for blocks.

[@billyshead1339]

ChicagoTRS Yea we used to have these projects near me that was homicide central in the 80s but they knocked the buildings down and made little houses and they're nice to this day and I never hear if any crime over there anymore. Guess it helped.

[@ChicagoTRS]

It helped that immediate area because they put up middle class and upper middle class housing but the people who once lived there are now strewn all over the south and west sides along with all of the other closed housing complex ex-residents - cancer spread.

[@ludwig5269]

thats why violence spread not why it started.

[@srami004]

Thank you for sharing. In your opinion, what will end it all? More police?

[@ludwig5269]

Customer Service yeah i am not arguing with that.

[@willemsleveille314]

I appreciate them saying, “Gangs”, “GangLeaders” and “Top Drug Dealers”.. Cause not everyone is part of the violence, which is important to differentiate..

[@redsharpie6340]

I love Chicago the violence here breaks my heart.

[@Theycallmekenney]

The #1 issue with gang violence is ECONOMICS but Chicago has been corrupt for 150 years.

[@HLsab]

Hahaha , made me smile when Billy used the word "Yuppies" ....

[@sirloinsteak81]

Bill burr not that funny in this one

[@jjhrkel]

When is he funny?

[@arealone9506]

@@jjhrkel when are you funny

[@Treversoncorey]

med rare?

[@CallduhAmberLamp]

Lol

[@CallduhAmberLamp]

@@jjhrkel bill burr use to be hilarious but he is just lame now

[@PaulMcMinotaur]

Billy Corgan has written songs that have literally kept me alive. He's a little weird. But I will listen to him.

[@mattiemclean9882]

how is he weird?

[@PaulMcMinotaur]

@@mattiemclean9882 are you really asking me to explain how this guy who looks like Nosferatu and writes songs about “Porcelina of the Vast Oceans” is weird?

[@danellae.perezschmieloz5958]

@@PaulMcMinotaur LOL

[@khaiuschill310]

This comment is wonderful

[@mountaindew3201]

Because he’s gay or at least looks gay

[@snakeplissken3063]

That's impossible. Chicago has very strict gun control.

[@golddee2040]

the worst thing I have seen out of Chicago was a video of some teens standing the doorway of a door. The window starts to shatter as bullets fly through it. Hit most of the kids. One of them grabbed his friend and used him as a shield. Don't remember if he made it, but his friend took one to the head.

[@dayquan9533]

That was THF fat shorty shooting up SKD Hell Vell and his friends at the GoLo gas station in Chicago. Down in Chicago there’s so many murders a year cops know who shot who and who’s killing what. It’s just that they don’t have enough evidence to pin it on them. Gangs also boast about killings on Twitter all day everyday.

[@dropkickirish4449]

Haha Great friend.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

yeah it was in a convenience store right?

[@jaichandra2644]

This disarmed me...with a smile

[@smm2k13]

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, also worst gun violence in the nation!

[@tedwojtasik8781]

Chicago has strict gun control, but most of the suburbs directly outside the city have little to none. Come off of Cicero Ave into Bridgeview and there are gun shops on every corner. Gun laws mean nothing under such circumstance. Now with the internet, you can buy a gun on-line used from a private party and have it at your home in a day, no background check. Gun laws only work when they are nation-wide and are actually enforced.

[@lpr5269]

Yeah well would it be any f-in better if we had the least strict gun laws in the nation? The problem is the people not the gun laws.

[@rockerchik8318]

Watching all these clips, makes one whole episode

[@MogulMonk1]

The PD approach with creating free zones: Sounds like the exact same setup as in "The Wire": Creating free zones for drug sales

[@nymike06]

I'm not into the Smashing Pumpkins music but Billy is an interesting and cool guy. I enjoy his insight and interviews.

[@Turk_2023]

Despite all Billy`s rage he is still just a rat in a cage

[@Automedon2]

yeah, I'm enjoying watching his clips. He's very well spoken

[@Jc-hn1ns]

NYC and LA real estate kept gentrifying and forcing out ghettos. This just never happened to Chicago, the number one metro area for people relocating away from a region in US. Rust belt is a hard place to live, our old 1950s ways just don't keep up with the 21st century

[@tedwojtasik8781]

I was born and raised in Chicago, first in a bungalow off of 33rd & Damien Ave (the actual south side of Chicago proper), then later moved to Bolingbrook 30 mi SW of the city. Never had any issues back then (born in 68', moved away in 83' then moved back in 89' before leaving for good in 91'). Went back to the old neighborhood off of 33rd & Damien in 2003 and holy shit. Pulled up in front of the old crib and everything looked normal, a bit run down but otherwise all looked ok. Then about eight Latinos poured out of the house with the leader coming right up to me, eyeballing me saying, "WTF you doin here MF'er!" I replied, "all good, this used to be my grandmother's home from 1944 until she sold it in 83' and I was just going down memory lane." Dude says, "not your granny's home anymore now GTFO F'er." Got in the car and left. What a shame.

[@chandyboi2976]

This is a title I never thought I'd read.

[@eduardomelesio1865]

Nothing will ever change

[@relativity1581]

When Rham Emmanuel became mayor he disbanded the Chicago gangs task force. That task force for 30 years kept gangs under control. He disbanded it and took away the check for the gangs.

[@kevinrussell7446]

Billy Corgan grew up in the burbs. Not even a burb that butted up to the city limits. And he didn't live on the south or west side so he's seen as much violence as the rest of us Chicagolandians... rarely. Although there were gangs in his high school, but that was true of a lot of high schools.

[@jjhrkel]

I grew up in a different era but that doesn't mean it was safe.

[@disasterdaddy6471]

Glendale heights and carol Stream are super dangerous! Wtf are you talking about??

[@Garf2O]

Bragging about whose seen more violence where they grew up thats some clown shit

[@chevyboyzz4996]

Billy grew up in Elk Grove village but I could see him living in wicker park or Logan square now, he from the 90s too so he probably had to come across some Latin kings vice Lords in his childhood

[@comradethoth9629]

Billy moved to Chicago proper in the 80s. He lived there for many years.

[@MarkCranerium]

Billie Corgan seems like he would be cool with wearing a formal cape and carrying a walking stick. I think he's a time traveler.

[@weaksignal8009]

Remember Chitown is 'gunfree' (unless you're a criminal)

[@danielneumann4953]

Whatever, dude. We have concealed-carry in Chicago, despite whatever makes you happy to believe. It hardly matters if a church group can pressure a South Side gun shop to close, if someone wanting a gun can take a 10-minute car ride to Hammond, Indiana and find whatever they want at a gun mall there. Our last police chief, hardly a lefty, said the biggest single cause for our murder-rate is the proliferation of small-arms.

[@hiddenknowledge2012]

Every gun was once a legal gun, think about that.

[@dariog36th]

Chicago has Concealed Carry. It's not gun free.

[@TomandAmyinthePI]

Yeah they just go to neighboring Indiana to buy their guns ......

[@oaklandstreet]

@@hiddenknowledge2012 murder was legal until it wasn't

[@JCMillner]

Billy Corgan bad ass

[@peartfaldo]

Hope.... Change..... Yes We Can.....

[@jjhrkel]

Immortal words for an Immoral con man

[@spidervenom14]

Sounds like the Block Wars in Mega City One. Where is Judge Dredd when you need him?

[@satinwhip]

Does anyone who does not live in Chicago really care about what happens in Chicago? Short answer - no.

[@Pepespizzeria1]

Them today, you tomorrow

[@jennyjaney2875]

I love that big Billy boi so much!!!!

[@gfunk5994]

That’s been going on in Chicago since I was a kid and before that. If you’ve grown up truly in Chicago and not the suburbs you would know this. Not condoning it just giving facts from a city boy.....

[@trapt29]

Billy is the best

[@ptonewood]

When I lived in Chicago I was literally in the middle of a gun fight while leaving work in a NW neighborhood. People always harp on the south side but there are plenty of other areas.

[@vict0ree]

Its the horrible "rap artists" who arent doing it to get out of the ghetto but to further drive their stake in it.

[@Garf2O]

Which is exactly why demonic hollyweird loved rap music for the past 5 years or so displacing everything else cause it keeps the youth brainwashed and violent and they can push whatever agenda they want with it

[@uprebel5150]

Detroit gets beat up but doesn't hold a candle to Chicago in violence.

[@ljwhitmire200]

the violence in Chicago has been going on for over 100 years and they keep being told that it's a socioeconomic problem but they always address the issue the same way: hire more cops. Hasn't worked, it's not going to work, gotta do something else.

[@RoBoTrOnIc1001001]

In 2015 my Canadian fam and I went down to Chicago for a vacay, and on our first day there we saw at least 3 bum fights, my dad was punched in the back by a beggar, and we were cornered...you can tell there is bad blood in the community bc there wasn’t a single officer in sight the entire trip (contrary to like NYC where theres a cop at almost every corner)... aside from this, their deep dish pizza and architecture is to die for. Overall, its pretty much just a real world Gotham City- 8/10 but most memorable for sure

[@snakeplissken3063]

You can buy their deep dish pizza and they'll mail it to you. You could have saved yourself a lot of money.

[@wakenow1]

​​why mail it to a different country? It would be mouldy and wouldn't even resemble a pizza after delivery service 😂😂😂😂

[@Turk_2023]

This was a great podcast

[@damiendemento9852]

Corgan wearing a cape.

[@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447]

Damien Demento he's just back from doing a concert in Capedown SA.

[@majikjuggalo]

This is like asking Ja rule about 9/11

[@mikewhipkey6863]

wait a minute doesn't chicago have strict gun laws? someone really should tell those folks that shooting people is against the law!

[@Newton2222]

Hamsterdam.

[@boringlyawesum]

15 years ago nobody called them hipsters we called them yuppies

[@ryanjavierortega8513]

Chocolate cake is something that just happens

[@rydogrittman1871]

I used to be obsessed with SP but now I couldn’t listen to one song but this is an amazing interview

[@iwrestle9788]

CHIRAQ WHERE THE POLICE DONT CALL BACKUP

[@robertdumas1618]

Wtf, hated on the smashing pumpkins for so long I am psyched to hear Billy Corgan speak so normally/ intelligent.

[@starlodear2987]

Why are we so judgmental about other people? We're all flawed. I'm not perfect either. Nor is Billy but he's not a monster worth hating.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

do the stats in every major metropolitan area. similar

[@freddymarcel-marcum6831]

"Joggerz, Joggerz"

[@LSD123.]

Thank God I live in Australia...

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

implement direct democracy and ubi and watch all that change. there are solutions, but not doing the same old thing.

[@lc500yyc]

The way they explain it reminds me of The Wire

[@LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup]

“No amount of yuppies moving in has changed this sort of working class ethos.” - is a phrase that rings with irony. Also, patently untrue. Eventually you’ll have all yuppies and a yuppie ethos.

[@johnbently5603]

Wanna pet my yuppie!?!?!

[@APAL880]

that statement is referring to what has gone on so far. it's not a rule.

[@randpherigo9724]

I see them leaving in droves.. this city used to have a lot of pretty girls.. - not for about 10 years!

[@ivanalvarado2986]

Dude from Elk Grove, IL trying to explain Chicago like he’s from the city lol

[@Scorpia1987]

But he lived in the city called Chicago, so.

[@theDavidChannel1]

Chicago violence has been going on since the days of Al Capone (1920s)...this is what they're referring to as its history of violence.

[@Turk_2023]

Yea but it`s only blacks and hispanics doing it now, and at a rate that is impossible to compare to 1920.

[@moncorp1]

@@Turk_2023 ~ Wrong. Chicago's murder rate is actually much lower now than it has been. Chicago has always been murderous. Look up the numbers. They're easy to find. The single highest years were 1970 and 1992. They're several hundred murders a year lower than those two years now. this is nothing new.

[@Turk_2023]

@@moncorp1 Tends to happen when these crooked DA's in major cities do not charge people or charge them with something else other than murder to keep statistics low.

[@mroceans8336]

Chicago does not have a gun ban. Never has, never will.

[@Sleepgarden]

Interesting seeing this video pop up after the twitter clips of the kids running around

[@Bmizzzle1]

3 years later?, Add in the cartel violence

[@josephsmith8815]

Interesting fact:over the last ten years, the number of homicides/year in Chicago is the lowest since the late 60’s.

[@moncorp1]

1970 and 1992 were the 2 worst years of the past 50+ years. They try and act like its all of a sudden out of control, but look at the numbers and Chicago is running about the average number of murders a year as it always has.

[@JonSnowsGhost]

This sounds like “hamsterdam” in the wire

[@DendyJungle]

This is what happens when you make your pizzas too thick. Your brain becomes violent. Stick to thin pizzas, kids!

[@Katiemadonna3]

Tearing down Cabrini Green and Robert Taylor homes really messed up Chicago.

[@rebekaht3077]

it was actually more violent back then. I hung out at Robert Taylor as a teen and it was horrible.

[@dlaird8]

Billy Corgan is beyond smart

[@AJBell-dh6ry]

*reads The Bell Curve*

[@gc5907]

Billy did not grow up in Chicago...he's like from Glenndale Heights.

[@alexsepulveda5239]

The neighborhoods are super neglected, the city just ignores a bunch of vulnerable communities

[@moncorp1]

Basically like its always been in Chicago

[@Zephead10]

The example they gave about controlling crime is exactly how Mexico was run for years. Until the president Calderon did his stupid war on drugs and look at the country now.

[@Paul-dw2cl]

Billy is cool

[@dcrea9416]

You couldn't pay me enough to live in Chicago

[@johnomara8921]

The National Guard sounds like a good fucking idea

[@elizabethrose3354]

Everybody in these comments is a Chicago gun violence expert, apparently lmaooo

[@on2wheels378]

Chicago the model for 'gun-free' zones and strict gun control. 03:46, what Billy is describing, is like the Pork and Beans section of Miami. Enemies can look down the block and see one another.

[@smileychuy]

I'm here thinking they gonna discuss al capone and it's the present 😅

[@billsimms2511]

And 3 years later it’s only gotten worse. Lori Lightfoot is a terrible mayor ..

[@adogeatdogworld4307]

Colvin did that on the wire.

[@TomandAmyinthePI]

When they tore down all the projects the gangs spread all over the south and west sides instead of in a concentrated area- likely not the only reason for the increased shootings but certainly a major contributing factor

[@peartfaldo]

Isnt Obama from Chicago???

[@rebekaht3077]

Isn't Trump from New York?

[@jabba820]

No...its common knowledge he grew up in Hawaii. He moved as a young adult to Chicago

[@jjhrkel]

Chicago loves Obama and this is what he brought to our beloved city.

[@WorldwidebirdiesGC]

NO Actually The vorld a is wampire

[@danki2000daniel]

Education, education culture, and jobs.....but it has to be done by us, others can help, but ultimately it has to be US THAT CHANGE OUR CULTURE

[@jesuschristthesequel448]

I was born there not my home. I wouldn’t ever visit for any reason.

[@kevinsingh811]

why don't comments show on joe's recent vids?

[@IslamicRageBoy]

Truly horrible garbage. And people are cowards for ignoring it

[@stevemammen7779]

Ladies and Gentlemen...The Batman...

[@livinglegend8027]

in baltimore people die everyday i think we have the most death in this state too

[@bobcumbers4316]

North ave bridge

[@kennford]

billy corgan is based!

[@jameshorton3692]

Lol they are describing Hamstrerdam from The Wire.

[@domcisco7737]

Wearhouse 18 = what?! The... What do you know?!

[@benblak23]

It’s crazy all these people who never set foot in the hoods of Chicago talking about what to do. You don’t even try to understand why it’s happening nor do you know what goes on. People rather seem right then be honest and say “i don’t know what’s going on, I’ll just leave it alone.”

[@moncorp1]

I can tell you why it happens with out ever setting foot in the hood. It happens because of worthless idiots. Period.

[@Titos_Tales]

regardless of what party is to blame, there exists a severe lack of willingness to really do something. without jobs, the hope of making a change in the economics, thus lifestyle, of the south n westsides, we will continue to see desperation in action. guns come from indiana, so theres that

[@moncorp1]

Regardless of which party is to blame? Its only the dimocrats. They've run the city for a hundred years or more. Same with every big city cesspool. Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, et al. Calls for defunding the police, letting homeless run amok. How's that working out for ya?

[@miguelg4006]

new amsterdam

[@lennarthagen3638]

Capo

[@dropkickirish4449]

Imagine being the person responsible for having to shoot and kill someone every 12 hours and 23 minutes.

[@MrTommyoates]

He grew up in glendale heights not Chicago....

[@dewknow1315]

This is where the trump wall needs to go IMO.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

dan cash it’s an imaginary wall, it can go where ever you want it to!

[@moncorp1]

Also put one around Kalifornia