Joe Rogan & Derren Brown - The Idea of Happiness

[@MarktMorris]

Derren Brown is both one of my favourite entertainers and one of my favourite thinkers. So glad he's getting an audience on the other side of the Atlantic, he's brilliant.

[@cjgreen3836]

For me, this video really hits on the truth of living a happy life. over the past 40 years, I have taken on some formidable tasks, both professionally and personally, and as Derren quite rightly says, this self inflicted stress and anxiety IS necessary for positive development and personal growth. As a carpenter, seven years ago I embarked on a project which (at the time) I considered the toughest challenge I have ever set myself in my life. I moved to Thailand and spent the best part of 2 years building my own 4 bedroom house, single handed (except when a bit more muscle was needed). I spent every waking hour on getting this task done. I broke every task into smaller chunks, and set myself daily targets. Eventually I got it finished, and it was such a relief to get my life back (I thought). Once I had time on my hands again, I felt empty and had the urge to do another project. Well, what do you do when you have just completed the toughest physical task of your life at the age of 50? What I did was to go enroll in University, and take a Masters degree in teaching. This undertaking is by far THE toughest thing I have EVER done in my life (especially when you take into account my working class upbringing and lack of proper schooling). After 3 long years I am now nearing completion. In 4 months I will be submitting my dissertation and the steep mountain will have been conquered :P I cannot see myself topping this feat, and I do not have the inclination to do so. I think maybe it is time to take the middle road and continue my necessary life long learning on a smaller scale :) The moral is, personal development and learning cannot be achieved in a 'comfort zone'. We need to step into the unknown to learn, which is scary, believe me. In my opinion, when you look back it is always worth the effort :)

[@theviker]

Cycle Green good work fella

[@will006]

I listened to Derren Brown's audibook "Happy". It is very intellectual at times but he has a great voice and his command of the English language is inspiring but the message of the importance of stoicism really hit a chord with me and I've been a disciple of this way of life ever since. Thank you Derren for introducing this to me.

[@Whistfulthinking]

I'm struggling and considering suicide. But this video has helped me a lot. You have to embrace the struggle and accept it's ever present and an opportunity to grow. I'm going to try to take these lessons forward for the sake of my family and friends

[@APinTheAK]

Just know your not alone. That you’re loved, wanted, and would be missed more than it ever seems at times, and that the pain and life altering effect this would have on your loved ones so much more deeply than you can imagine. I struggle with the ideation myself, daily, questioning, saddened, misunderstood, aching, broken.... We just have to constantly remind ourselves, to stay present, connected; to ones self aswell as our people(family/friends). And of course, to reach out, pride doesn’t go with us when we pass, please don’t hesitate. I hope you find some relief. Take care of yourself.

[@Whistfulthinking]

@@APinTheAK Thank you for the kind words

[@rexqt5337]

Dont be a pusssssssyyyyy..... live the life that youre given, there are people in the hospital that would do anything to stay alive

[@BenWilliams2011]

Hey... how are you doing?

[@Whistfulthinking]

@@BenWilliams2011 100,000x better thanks Ben

[@Mutorcsym1391]

Feeling sad about ending a book aboot happiness.....paradoxically perfect.

[@NashHightauer]

He certainly said that on purpose.

[@balkanjoker3111]

@@NashHightauer either way, its true.

[@tonymalhi9792]

What's the full name of the book please?

[@Mutorcsym1391]

@@tonymalhi9792 The idea of Happiness

[@Pbg_Gonefishing]

Life is weird. Ive been really getting into Stoic stuff, works of Seneca and Epictetus. Then I was recommended a Tedtalk with Derren Brown doing what he does and I was intrigued to know more about this man. Then youtube autoplay went and played a clip from this podcast about hypnosis. Then on the side I saw this one and thought I bet thats good and clicked it. And here I am listening to man that understands Stoicism. Life is neat. Welcome to the circle.

[@23Robusto]

I recommend the Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday

[@_SliK_]

Have goals. But don’t tie happiness to the completion of goals.

[@KainedbutAble123]

One of the reasons Joe is so great is that one minute he can be wise-cracking, dropping F bombs and the next he can be as eloquent and genuinely profound as he is at the end of this clip.

[@obitouchiha6980]

KainedbutAble123 lmao yeah once in a blue moon he says something I didn’t think he was capable of saying

[@barry4649]

KainedbutAble123 yeah the True Geordies like that too in his podcasts

[@hamesansyiem1841]

@JCmasters100 how is he a shill?

[@AutonovaAI]

JCmasters100 explain then...

[@AliceInPantera]

Exactly....well said

[@Samgurney88]

'How best should we live?' This is the question that sparked my love of philosophy as a teenager (and I've spent my life so far studying philosophy in academia as a result). We don't tend to ask or discuss this question seriously in our modern culture - we have 'life hacks' and gimmicky self-help gurus and 'motivational speakers' and time-management seminars and 'positivity' cultists and 'YOLO' idiots and 'you do you', and all sorts of comparable vacuities. Simple, time-worn words like 'wisdom' or 'nobility' now even sound a bit old-fashioned to our modern ears. And we rarely ask what the ultimate purpose of it all is - what really matters - without degenerating into frivolous and superficial nihilism. The loss this represents to our culture is hard to express. I'm in good company in history if I'm simply being curmudgeonly about my contemporaries, but I find it hard to imagine that there isn't something especially superficial about our Zeitgeist. How to reconcile ourselves to the human predicament is not a question that ought to be confined to academic philosophers - it's a question every living person has to address and to live with. It's beautiful to see this question being discussed in a popular format with such real wisdom and depth.

[@aliensoup2420]

Happiness is a choice, not something that happens to you as a result of circumstances. There are happy people living in the most difficult conditions, and miserable people living in the best conditions. Don't wait for it, just be it.

[@JesusJr269]

I just watch one of derren’s Netflix specials and thought ‘wow i wish that he was on the joe rogan podcast’... hey presto the algorithm delivers again

[@xhesitase9729]

Happiness can not be found in the world. The reason one is happy after achieving something is because the tension and angst of doing the activity subsides once complete, and tranquility resides again. We all seek happiness outside, but we will be disappointed sooner or later, even if things go as planned. There will always be restlessness in outside affairs. If we can cultivate the indifference of external situations. If we just let things happen as they are suppose to, come what may, but we are not perturbed, we will remain in equilibrium. Cultivate the love to go within oneself. To become self attentive to pure awareness; awareness of nothing but awareness, and not awareness of phenomena, such as the body, mind, or objects.

[@zanem499]

It’s crazy how much I resonate to this dude

[@AllanDavisArt]

I love Derrens vocal tone, pace & delivery. It’s hypnotic. Reminds me of Hitch in some ways, without the modesty.

[@evanpaluch6190]

Constant happiness is overrated. Life is a balance and you can't exeprience happiness without equal struggle. Embrace the ride and the journey not the destination.

[@Kube_Dog]

You're repeating bumper stickers that feel true. But they're not. Happiness cannot be reached, as such. It is a by-product of understanding and doing what is right.

[@Eddy-dn1jx]

@@Kube_Dog happiness isn't the same for everyone

[@Sanjovalentine]

Kube Dog your happiness ain’t mine dawg. My happiness is finding good porn

[@savvageorge]

I think it's also possible to be happy while you are struggling if you have the right frame of mind and you see struggles as a way to grow and improve.

[@evanpaluch6190]

@@savvageorge well said.

[@HaloWolf102]

One of the things I learned about Stoics, is that they channel their anxiety and stress into their morning called 'Negative thinking'. They recognize that the people I will interact with today will be mean, emotional, and unyielding. Or something like that. And that you should expect this. Negative thinking prepares you for the day, after the morning is over. You don't so negative thinking until the next morning. The rest of the day is dedicated to learning, and dedicated to teaching others.

[@Keklic]

YES DERREN BROWN. Loved his trick or treat series

[@vintagerealityvr]

I'm 1089 years old and I relate to this *insert story*

[@palecurve]

Happiness is growth, change and embracing the fears that come with it. One needs to be challenged in order to get further ahead.

[@philmirez]

Patrick Burns yep. Never stagnate within your comfort zone.

[@Eddy-dn1jx]

Happiness isn't the same for everyone

[@Sanjovalentine]

Alfred Rieder if you can’t tell he’s joking, you got a lot more joe rogan to watch

[@MrDaraghkinch]

I've always preferred the image of a pliable sapling in a storm, to that of a rock unmoved by waves. In my image, the analog of the rock would be a great rigid tree. The greater and more rigid the tree, the more wind it catches, and the more brittle it is, compared to the flexible sapling.

[@garsto9718]

Happiness comes from having a break after carrying an adequate load for each given day.

[@grantdouglas8523]

Great interview. Rogan is a superlative interviewer no matter on what subject. He is always pushing the interviewee and trying to understand the subject and pushing aside agendas when interviewing.

[@anejaG55]

4 years have passed. No tomorrow. 4 years of prime young age

[@dinolupi9807]

Life is not meant to be happy! Nor meant to be sad! Equal possibly? Good and bad, ying and yang? Amen

[@savvageorge]

Aristotle said that happiness is the purpose and meaning of life. I think sadness is our brains way of telling us we are on the wrong path.

[@999fieldsie]

I suffer from despression it so hard I do be up and down a lot for years

[@skunkusmunkus9385]

same here. Found out i had copper toxicity. Apparently a common illness. Went on TRT. all good now biiiiitch

[@RU4REALDAWG]

Because of my situation it's very hard for me to find people to socialize with, it's killing me, I don't have any social issues what's o ever but being 18, in great shape, with no girlfriend and no friends to go out with really drops me in an endless pool of unhappiness

[@RU4REALDAWG]

@Nukem Dukem a few more years of this...

[@leemckerrow4990]

What situation

[@billysummers4985]

How are you doing now?

[@onezerooneo]

Sad that a clip about this topic has so little views compared to Joe’s other clips.

[@wanderingtyson7590]

Joe "Marshall is in studio but will not be interviewed" Rogan

[@GRiMETiME]

lmaaao

[@jennyd126]

In conversations with joe make me smile... how adult can have different opinions without it turning in to a fight... thank you grows ups for this discussion :)

[@personal3314]

Derren and joe’s views on happiness are a lot different to one another

[@jakeblaze7663]

Happiness before the money.

[@A.I.musicIntelligence]

Derren Brown, the man who never makes eye contact!

[@TIMG128]

yes he does

[@L1VE3V1L]

Only when he’s fucking with your brain. Here, with Joe, he’s not here to play tricks, just talk.

[@AyitaIam]

I remember a show yrs ago called Mind Control with DB. It was awesome and I never understood why they removed it other than the fear we might learn 2 much..all his books r great, but my fave is Confessions of a Conjuror....alot of people just don't understand how this need to believe covers up from us seeing truth..Twain was right..easier 2 fool them rather than to convince them they r being fooled. Nothing 2 do with happiness, but was just what I'm 🤔

[@CZRXCZR]

Ironically, I read his book after receiving a Happy Ending.

[@bluelambo5]

The comment directly belows is "how do I stop feeling clinicly depressed after I wank off" lol

[@yuccatree4298]

Nothing ironic about that; coincidence, yes, but irony, no.

[@hamet1234]

Joe is such a good listener

[@CPAStrengthPassion]

what is happy ?

[@evanpaluch6190]

Well I think it's this emotion where you feel good at ease. I forget what that emotion is like.

[@Kube_Dog]

@@evanpaluch6190 No.

[@philmirez]

CPA Strength it’s up to you to define happy. 👍

[@Kube_Dog]

@@philmirez No.

[@philmirez]

Kube Dog Issa good boy. 🤗

[@steveyray9031]

The first step of a 10 mile is not the hardest.

[@aliensoup2420]

It is for me...the 1st 1/4 mile of a long hike is often the most difficult. I feel weak and don't think I can even make it 1/2 mile. Beginning is always difficult if you think about the huge journey ahead.

[@willjackson6522]

“Think of yourself more as a porous rock” Yo I’m not high, but I feel high right now

[@vintagerealityvr]

I was born a man. then, I became a vacuum. it was this podcast that made me an actual Hoover. The articulation in this podcast is so great, I gained . 002 horsepower in my small vacuum motor, and I am now a better man (vacuum) for this

[@Eddy-dn1jx]

Happiness isn't the same for each person. We're extremely different

[@samabplanalp2801]

Derren “I only wear one headphone” Brown

[@snolan1990]

Sam that is probably so he can hear what is happening in the room directly.

[@dannhatesusernames]

Ask a Scientist, just not anything about audio or the perception of sound.

[@phillipecook3227]

" Life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness". As an objective the last one's been around for a while and then some. It's only the latest generation of homo sapiens who've thought so much about happiness (probably because the previous 200 were too busy surviving). But how do you define it and how do you know you've achieved it? I don't worry about the first but waking up every morning looking forward to the day tells me I'm at least content. Reminding yourself that things could always be much, much worse helps too.

[@FanMarleycalender]

Why is the full podcast gone?

[@stu7399]

As a ROCK, I like his use of the word "porous". Nice one Derren, maybe I'll absorb more.

[@Bazic-jh6rz]

Wow didn’t know Darren came to joes podcast

[@austin7251]

Only 20.000 views? My people are missing out on great concepts.

[@bigdave1885]

Interesting to see Joe so quiet 🤫

[@Avalon_1991]

Yeah, shout out for the city of Bristol

[@ijoeymatthews]

My name is Joseph Aurelio and I’m actually a defendant of Marcus Aurelius. It’s crazy how I’ve found Joe “DMT” Rogan and Derren Brown. I love you all and hope you have a fantastic life.

[@memoryhero]

I actually found Joe's wisdom here in the video's second half the more profound!

[@ham.ster1997]

why is the full show pirvate?🥺

[@L1VE3V1L]

Derren is so fucking clever.

[@maulendemyrte9955]

Joe “the weirdness of it all“ Rogan

[@movieklump]

Happy people never talk about happiness.

[@smartwater598]

Because it attracts jealous people

[@vyouttar]

My perspective about happiness is happiness = peace

[@jennyd126]

Having a purpose...

[@jasonzcomedy]

I can not recommend his book strongly enough

[@zanem499]

What is his book called?

[@jasonzcomedy]

@@zanem499 Happy

[@LocalFiveGuy]

A true secret of happiness that works best = Put a smile on your face all day, every day. It will make you happier than you've ever been. I walked around with a smile on my face, saying that "There is no reason not to smile!" That made me feel like I was the happiest person in the world. Give it a try.

[@L1VE3V1L]

I just might

[@lukemccann]

Beautiful

[@lucygilbertson3746]

genius

[@Sandlund93]

I guess my idea of happiness is the complete opposite of Rogan´s then. I´d say to each their own, I don´t think his philosophy works for everybody.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

First, what the hell is the definition of happiness?

[@richardgates7479]

Never mind what anyone else thinks, what do you think?

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Richard Gates, not looking for a mentor, thanks, but I am looking for applicants for the happiness definition wherever they may be

[@samuelcharlton9981]

Being content with life

[@ManQ_]

It's the feeling you get when you take a massive shit after holding it in all day

[@2dotGo]

Probably the purpose of the book...

[@rayhan7152]

Mad

[@danielprice9046]

What is this ‘happiness’ they speak of?

[@philmirez]

Happiness is when you can embrace your dandruff while wearing a black shirt. 👍

[@zedlovin2612]

Phil Ramirez definitely not

[@JM-fo1te]

*What?*

[@eddiebaby22]

Wow

[@donluchitti]

Hitch 2.0 🍄🍄🍄

[@shamanahaboolist]

That moment when you see that Joe Rogan has a better handle on wisdom than Derren Brown. Honestly... I really appreciate Derren's skills in manipulation and subconscious influence and I truly appreciate how much he has shared. But Derren is a lost soul. He'll feel much better once he lets go of his frustration with God, mans up and embraces a relationship with the universe.

[@xydex99]

haha you have some opinions ... life's hard man I think they're both doing real well

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@xydex99 I'm sure they are. But Rogan is happier than Derren no doubt. I'm pretty sure that's down to Rogan's openness to the idea of consciousness in forms other than the measured and observable.

[@thecaptain5026]

@@shamanahaboolist I'm pretty sure you're putting your personal believes into this observation. Basically, that's just your perspective

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@thecaptain5026 Yeah it's my perspective. Doesn't mean it's not accurate tho.

[@MrRinoHunter]

2nd! Cause I'm a fan!

[@thatguyoverthere5570]

first cuz why not

[@krisley5178]

What in the fuck are these people blathering about? I heard not one thing relating to happiness. Jesus. Once you achieve success, I guess its easy to get lost in your own greatness.

[@bekachanturia8901]

Get dan bilzerian back on

[@ImNotJoshPotter]

This guy's stoicism doesn't sound all that stoic.

[@15seconds3]

Derren Brown isn't that articulate. He tends to ramble. I'm guessing he doesn't deal with people on a daily basis.

[@15seconds3]

Yes really. If you are more precise in your communicaton you don't need to use hand gestures, rubbing your hands, moving your shoulders, etc. to appear more animated.

[@patrickoneal4082]

Happiness is for children like Santa and Heaven. We are here to procreate and further the species. That's it. Get over it and try to enjoy some moments. Grow up