Joe Rogan | Materialism Doesn't Make You Happier w/Johann Hari

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1250 w/Johann Hari:
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[@rye1181]

“It doesn't matter what we want, once we get it, then we want something else." - Lord Baelish”

[@OnkelStein]

This is depressingly true.

[@muhammedyousif4009]

Fax, what makes kids happy is finally getting it not the shoe itself

[@doctorscript1503]

Unlimited xanax?

[@loganguerra1013]

When he died I lost my shit

[@Nutty151]

That's precisely the psychology Consumerism takes advantage of.

[@michaelc5019]

I’m with Johaan. I’m 30, no social media presence or influence which is considered odd for my generation. But I identified the envy in the social media universe 9 years ago and quit FB and never went back. Never had a Instagram, Twitter, or anything of those sorts. My media footprint is limited to KZbin which I view as a tool. You use a hammer for a purpose. To build something. Then you put it down. You don’t keep a hammer to your face 24 hours a day. I treat my phone the same way. And it is something I try to promote to my peers. Life is short and precious. Spend it making memories, not making statuses for people who don’t care about you

[@shotaaa22]

I don't get people like you. like why would using instagram moderately for ur own fun is considered as a bad thing. I think it's one's fault if he/she falls into traps all the time. I think everything can be fun if u use it moderately and right way.

[@shotaaa22]

I have fb and it was making me see all the negative things around and just when I was thinking of deleting it, I realized I should have just deleted those negative shit on my feed, and follow stuff which would provide me with the information I was interested in. so just look at it that way, follow pages you think will be good for ur journey, there are tons of information on fb, so instead of liking selfies of other stupid people, unfollow them and put whatever matters in there. stop saying that only way to succeed is if you dont ever create fb or instagram.🤣

[@persistentlydriven9390]

33 no social media outside of KZbin and online poker

[@manzahalem8845]

Excellent Michael C!

[@shotaaa22]

@@persistentlydriven9390 wouldnt u rather learn how to control and dont let urself fall into those things and manage to use them depending on ur needs? please don't say facebook can't be useful. so the problem is not in that, problem is in us - cuz we let them take over our lives. but it's actually really easy to have them and still not be an internet freak, trust me

[@felixf4378]

I work in an Amazon return center. We get all the stuff that customers opened and returned. After putting my hands on thousands of iPhones, watches, cameras, shoes, and all kind of expensive shit. Now I just see all this stuff as junk. People spends billions of dollars on these piles of junk.

[@Wewereneveryoung]

Well said. Great visual.

[@Theonegamefreak]

sorry man. i do this but with clothes that dont fit

[@vasiavisilievic1873]

lol, same here. I used to work as a truck driver, transporting brand new cars from factory to dealer. New audis, bmw's, etc. They dont excite me anymore cuz i've driven so many of them lol.

[@vasiavisilievic1873]

@Shark i had to drive each car for about 200meters, from the parking lot to the truck, and load them onto the truck. Then drive the truck to a dealer, unload the cars there.

[@montygriswald7296]

Mm, I would never say an iPhone is junk. It’s a sophisticated piece of equipment that could make you very productive. Maybe don’t change it every year, but it definitely has a lot of value. Just as much as a laptop.

[@ubiquitousdiabolus]

Buying things you don't need, with money you don't have, to impress people you don't like.

[@tslomka6272]

Thanks Dave

[@glitchinthematrix555]

Fight club

[@SovereignStatesman]

Joe Dirt: you just described the series "Mad Men."

[@houseofpranks1830]

Tyler durden

[@joblo2925]

Awh yes.. r.i.p. carlin

[@Vaporvice84]

Learning that materialism doesn't make you happy is the easy part. Convincing a woman to tag along with you in this minimalist lifestyle is the hard part, lol.

[@Alex10daysago]

Rewire the whole concept of companionship. Dont try to hold on to a woman forever. Rather go out. Meet a woman. Enjoy her be it one day or 20 years. But dont try to hold her to your life. Make your life a paradise. Not a prison.

[@springhillgolfer878]

They don't want no broke ninjas.

[@Alex10daysago]

Jeff Costello you can still associate with women. The problem is men are going after these airhead gold diggers. Go after substance. This is like telling people dont have a dog they bite. Dont drive a car you’ll get carjacked at gun point. If you mingle where the trash is you are bound to have a bad experience.

[@jeffcostello4117]

@@Alex10daysago or like telling people don't put your head in a tiger's mouth, it might bite. Although you're very right it might not ;) In any case I was just offering some advice that I feel has vastly improved my life. Anyone is free to take it if they want, it might not be what they think they need and that's fine. Peace love and happiness to you as you go through life brother. Love Leonard Cohen btw

[@Alex10daysago]

Jeff Costello no worries. We are both on the same ideology. Sorry if my response came off as personal. Have a good rest of the year.

[@scotthill2865]

The richest man in the world is not the one with the most stuff. It is the man who needs the least.

[@tommboswell6846]

Stop talking about me. U dont even know me. You are correct tho

[@alainerookkitsunev5605]

Many have too much, no one has enough...

[@RawDogTV]

Scott Hill FACTS

[@sanekabc]

@Alex To The key may be to accomplish the most but for the right reason.

[@sanekabc]

@Alex To I don't care if anyone pays taxes. I don't care if anyone gets rich. I only meant being aware if you are pursuing productivity for intrinsic or extrinsic reasons and yes that too will be up to the individual. The word right also means accurate as it relates to the goal you are pursuing. But an argument could be made that pursuing materialism is always a false value and therefore also immoral or not right, as it doesn't serve the individual or society.

[@peabarter_3074]

My fiancée and her family in Thailand are poor rice farmers. They have very little in material possessions. They have no furniture. They sit on a Thai mat that lays on a concrete floor for all of their meals and time with family. They live from day to day gathering food and living off of the land. Yet they are the most happy, pleasant, welcoming and unstressed people I have ever met my entire life. Every time I visit them in Thailand I come home feeling like a changed man for the better.

[@peabarter_3074]

@official asiangirl Since then the immigration service finally approved her visa and she and her 2 12-year-old sons live with me now. I see the same attitude here and I am grateful for it. I feel like I am fortunate to have a perfect family environment. Relaxed, always happy, smiling, laughing and spending time together. Life is good and far exceeding my expectations. 👰🏽❤️🤵❤️👨‍👩‍👦‍👦🙏

[@JohnDoe-jt5lb]

@@peabarter_3074 are you supporting her family financially?

[@peabarter_3074]

@@JohnDoe-jt5lb Yes,I contribute. She and her sons arrived last year and we got married. Wonderful people and the best decision I've ever made my entire life. Every so often I send some money back to Thailand for her parents. They live on a budget of about $160 a month. They are hunters and gatherers for their food. Going to the grocery store means going out to the woods and harvesting fruits, vegetables, fish and crabs. They also eat beetles which are about 3 inches long and 2 inches in diameter. It's a different world there from what I'm used to here in the USA.

[@JohnDoe-jt5lb]

@@peabarter_3074 as long as you understand the dynamics of your relationship and protect your own assets. I'm happy to hear you've achieved a simulation of a family that makes you happy.

[@andyt9181]

@@JohnDoe-jt5lb He's happier than you, dont worry.

[@grod805]

When I lived outside the US I stopped feeling so self conscious about myself. I could walk everywhere without feeling judged or feeling like I wasn't good enough. I think that advertising has a big effect on us.

[@Stephie_L]

It's the same with the racial divide in your country too. I'm not saying there is no racism in the UK there is, but I grew up with diverse cultures and ethnicity and I never saw race, I saw people as humans growing up.

[@jaydendhaliwal8238]

@@Stephie_L Don't believe everything you hear on the news. The US doesn't actually have much of a racial divide. My friend that moved from London said the UK was way worse for racism when compared to places he's lived in the US and Canada.

[@amansaggi5]

@@jaydendhaliwal8238 exactly most of us honestly just see each other as equals, the media just blew shit up and stupid ppls are trying to make it worse

[@StuartFuckingLittle]

@@jaydendhaliwal8238 I think the recent riots and protests would counter your point.

[@ezbayt8723]

Advertising is a plague of the mind. Often when im watching a youtube video a fucking add will popup. I never watch them, i look away etc. even the sound of the attention grabbing ear raping “music” they play imfects the mind. It desperately wants your attention on every level. Fucking things, and fuck the people who create them. Based on the advertising style they no doubt view people as dumb sheep who drool at the mouth when the next bowl of slop is chucked at their feet. fuck adds, you hear me google? you hear me youtube? Fuck you and your adverts. Cunts

[@SuperVolsung]

Money might not buy happiness but it certainly removes a lot of things that make me sad...

[@lowverte3693]

@@HowToFactory because if you have no money you cant have a place to stay food to eat when you have money it take tour focus from needing money to live to when you have money you can live the life you want without the stresses of surving

[@SnakeQQeyeS]

@@lowverte3693 Word!

[@Purriah]

Basically money does make you happier up to a certain amount, and in certain ways.

[@kasper5688]

This. This is the perfect way to say it. I've been looking for this.

[@Purriah]

Inebriatd how does saying an object or money brings happiness discard responsibility or accountability ?

[@dkstudioart]

Freedom is what makes me happy, materialism will make you a slave.

[@cdcolin1]

As a business owner who works 70hrs a week, agreed my friend. Also, peace is what we are in search of. Happiness is a mood in my opinion.

[@dkstudioart]

@Leonard von Kahee-ros you definitely need money to be free, materialism is something else however.

[@True38]

Exactly. That's why I'm only pursuing the biggest job opportunities that will make me the most money (unless I get the "dream job", then it won't matter that much) so that I can buy myself financial freedom and ultimate independence. It's the two primary goals in my life that I take very seriously. The 3rd goal is to find and establish a long-term relationship with a girl that is actually worth it. When all those goals are met, life can be very beautiful! :D

[@davidgoldman3236]

@The Deathless you're the fool here

[@unclejeffrey2317]

Amen to that

[@justadudeintheworldman.120]

From my own experiences and viewing the experiences of others, I think Jim Carrey really said it best. “I wish everyone could become rich so they would see it’s not the answer.”

[@masterluitchangboro8821]

I really love that quote

[@kirk1007]

Yep

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

@@johnnychopping3655 compared to homeless we are rich and compared to the rich we are homeless

[@leegoddard2618]

@@johnnychopping3655 Buuuuullsh!t. Idiots would be rich, if Only briefly.

[@rasher331]

Then why doesnt Jim give all his money away to charity and downsize to a regular lifestyle?

[@FiNe_SiTe]

I've never cared about material things beyond basic needs & I consider myself exceptionally happy in life.

[@viralbuthow000]

"If we are insecure, we are a motivated consumer." - I. Lawrence

[@tsmullins9945]

Keep your overhead low. A safe place to sleep. Something in your stomach and the health and happiness of your love ones is all that really matters.

[@ericfox3511]

And growing my collection of painted ostrich eggs

[@fuzzyflick9905]

WOOOOOOOOF 🐕🐾🙏

[@hufclufc]

If only it were that simple

[@matthewbond375]

This guy summed up social media so perfectly.

[@TOADALLY123]

Materialism doesn’t make you happy. But Dmt on the other hand.

[@SavingSoulsMinistries]

I took a handful of DMT up my butt and saw a realm full of Joe Rogans

[@ranal2075]

@@SavingSoulsMinistries and those Joe Rogans were offering me dmt

[@lfa5684]

Bro DMT will change your life

[@yehorkashperskyi5692]

You soab hahahahaha

[@john-paulhunt2604]

I dont my own thing after mocking them all as I hate tithing and selling indulgences. waves that crap off.

[@DOXO881]

Studies have shown there is positive correlation between income and happiness, up to about $80k, and then additional income registers little impact. We all need enough income to afford basic needs, take care of our loved ones, and pursue our interests to some degree but after that, additional happiness probably hinges much more on our social lives.

[@ElvenMans]

​@Handsome B. Wonderful Whatever the exact number is, there is probably a limit. When you have so much money you could buy anything you want and still have a lot of money left, you are probably way over that limit.

[@theprojectionist1]

yeah we know.

[@anejaG55]

More people need to understand this Statement. I completely agree with this. Rather all of the other comments are criticising joe. Sad. Society has made materialism so intrinsic in all nowadays. It's not that important people.

[@SP-dj9kl]

Exactly right, at 80k is when you run out of things to buy to make you happy, and when money stops mattering. These rich people have too much money so now they don't value it. Fucking morons.

[@arveas2346]

Try

[@79thump8]

Facebook should change it's name to Envy Me.

[@TheAngryHippie]

Face-Value Book

[@thomasarbec7242]

Look at me

[@bdflatlander]

Or Fakebook

[@kevinthai6777]

@@matthewk4912 both are social media, and people DO post on facebook the same sht

[@jackmcnaughton360]

sad thing is it probably wouldnt change anything

[@sparkylfc91]

honestly growing up with no positive male role model, people like joe rogan have 100% stopped me going down a dangerous path positive motivation and just having someone tell you what you need to hear never stop doing what you do 👍

[@hew195050]

Joe Rogan? That would frighten me.

[@izadora2922]

Yeah! 😅

[@cullenak4723]

“In order to display their life to invite envy from other people they are not living their life” hit the nail on the head.

[@erice1763]

hot take: Snapchat filters have corrupted self-image

[@someuser6796]

This is commonly accepted even amongst those who use them

[@abefromen1]

“Junk values” I’m going to use that term from now on

[@MikaHakkinen83]

"Bitch you have junk values"

[@dianas9530]

Maybe that's what our junk DNA is for after all! Haha.

[@dadumbfuck420]

Smart phones and social media were the final nail in the coffin.

[@StuartFuckingLittle]

@DpKingify lol yeah complete distortion of what evolution for millions of years has fine tuned us to be. Escaping the very reality we are meant for. It will only lead to mass depression and a surge in suicide. You can't distort reality unless you completely go overboard with it and create, or rather transverse human consciousness into a chip like Elon musk is doing. Im 16 and scared for our generation.

[@sophiainportugal]

hum probably thats what was said about TV back in the day..

[@dealspeed6756]

@@StuartFuckingLittle I'm 40 and have a 17yo son and a 12yo daughter, my 17yo is very worried about his generation, he feels lost most of the time and wishes he had been born in the 80s like me, it scares me to here him talk like that and I have no idea how to counter his ideas when I know he's not wrong

[@drugstocope]

Enter NeuraLink lol

[@23Robusto]

2 years ago I sold my home, sold, donated or threw out everything that wasn't important. Now I'm surrounded by only what really matter to me. Most of it was handed down by parents or grandparents. It made such an improvement in my life.

[@LBJTV]

External happiness is temporary. Internal happiness is eternal.

[@spreadthelove77]

Al Very zen. Love it👍🏼

[@marqattack4502]

Nah it should be a balance, if your outside is hell and you're just "cool with it" it would still kinda suck. Money matters and happiness matters everyone has their own balance of what they need.

[@fauberkaupfmann982]

@@marqattack4502 not necessarily. Look at The cynics in greece. Lived in absolute misery and still were pretty dedicated to indepedence from The outside world and absolute untangleness. But you definetely have to be a special individual to endure that with a smile on your face. The average person wouldnt Last a week following The cynic regiment.

[@sharksfish8889]

It isn’t because you’ll die.

[@Nora-ze3wv]

I don’t think internal happiness is eternal such statement is ignoring the human nature. Not always but maybe often

[@GMHKLR]

Iv always loved stuff like nice cars nice clothes watches ect....I went on a 5 day hike in Nepal no internet just in mountains with locals something in my mind clicked that stuff and things don’t mean shit....moments and experience last are what matters

[@lfa5684]

There's no argument, driving a nice car is a moment and an experience

[@GMHKLR]

@Joe H ​ Joe H 100% my dude if its a hobby you enjoy go for it I do miss my car a bit being in lockdown id be working on it all day haha......plus car scene has a little bit of community behind it...….my comment is not attacking anyones way of life just as long as your truly happy at the core the rest is just icing on the cake

[@Feber2001]

100% agreed.

[@djdaisy0]

Is that you Robin Sharma?

[@GMHKLR]

@@djdaisy0 lol???

[@yolodolo9143]

"From the moment we are born we are immersed in a machine that's design to make us neglect what's really important in our lives."

[@mmlad9828]

Exactly 💯💯💯

[@JohnSmith-to5ow]

Wow, quite a lot of comments in this section miss the point ENTIRELY.

[@jdaworldboss8796]

I’m as surprised as you are my friend

[@tamasviar3659]

totally right

[@TheDionysianFields]

I thought he was about to get to the point but then the video cut off. The whole thing was a mess of a joke. Rogan called the guy out repeatedly and he just kept changing lanes without ever presenting anything solid. Terrible.

[@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon]

Americans

[@thed5845]

John Smith welcome to society

[@ricomajestic]

This guy is right. People are obsessed with money and looks and mostly superficial stuff. I use to walk around with a gold plated watch that cost 15 bucks back in the day and every where I went people asked me about the watch. They were fascinated by it even though I just bought it cause I needed something would tell me time. Never expected those reactions!

[@bdflatlander]

Hari is spot on about junk values and using Social Media to try and create envy in other people. Thats one of the biggest reasons that web sites like Facebook suck raw - people making their “look at me and how cool my life is” posts. He is also right about materialism. Buying high priced status symbols may give you a relatively brief rush when you first acquire them but that wears off quickly and then all you have less cash in your bank account and a raging case of buyers remorse.

[@sonybluraydisk]

This, I'm convinced, is the most valuable lesson most people need to learn in order to feel so much more free and happy just from within.

[@peoplevsradio317]

To hate fit people and deny them jobs? Odd

[@sonybluraydisk]

@@peoplevsradio317 dafuq

[@slangsd]

I think Joe can be too much of a contrarian for his own good where it feels defensive. He should allow his guest to fully flesh out his point and than respond.

[@dianas9530]

YES.

[@BloggerMusicMan]

Each to their own, I actually think he often strikes a good balance. I've never seen him be really hostile towards his guests, regardless of their opinions, but it's not very interesting in my view to watch two people just comfortably agree. I'd rather he pose some questions to challenge his guests. I don't think he tends to interrupt them, at least in a really rude way.

[@susza89]

I honestly think he gives lots of time to his guests to say exactly what they mean. Even if he disagrees he makes good points. Compare that to "journalists " from CNN or BBC lol

[@hannw7]

I feel like he has ODD.

[@aimee796]

Totally agree. Really wanted Johann to get his point out halfway through but Joe was interrupted loads

[@iifridgeii9933]

materialism might not make you happier past a certain threshold, but the ability to live a comfortable life without stressing about how you're going to pay for rent or food is a luxury that many people cant afford, and certainly makes your life much better/ makes you much happier.

[@billseron2391]

But he isn't talking about that. Having your own apartment so you don't go homeless isn't materialism.

[@Lipeboussada12345]

You can have money without the need of buying everything you see. Money for me is just a tool for my confort. To travel, etc. Not for the latest Iphone or a new BMW.

[@billseron2391]

@@Lipeboussada12345 a BMW isn't that bad. It's a liking of displaying you got somewhere. Once you start going porsche or a lambo it's starting to get a bit sad.

[@Lipeboussada12345]

@@billseron2391 I dont use my money to show people I got money. We just live once, not gonna waste with this kind of things

[@GemmaKelly-tw1xm]

That’s not what he’s talking about.

[@deepikavijakumar9553]

I feel the issue is the " I will be happen when" attitude. We can be happy and then go ahead to achieve whatever material success we want. Once you base your happiness on the material wealth, it is a rabbit hole. Everybody wants to live well, and comfortably. Poverty is not a good place to be in

[@jeremyfryar3424]

For those of you that are old enough to remember the age where you had to take film to a place and have it made into photographs, how many “selfies” had you seen before a camera was put in everyone’s pocket on their phone. I think the selfie says a lot about society and our culture and the road it’s headed down and why we breed so many narcissistic people here in the states.

[@ma2i485]

I'm from South Africa, so I bet we all in the same boat especially the women here are obsessed with selfies.

[@nebraskahusker247]

A terminal prognosis will make you forget about money and all other material things. Wake up people. Life is the greatest gift you have.

[@2299mikey]

nebraskahusker247 but money will allow you to fight that terminal illness for longer and may even allow you to beat it

[@Da69expert1]

@@2299mikey that's an unfortunate casualty of capitalism, however that's not topical to the discussion of intrinsic value.

[@errant3]

Sounds like you don't have much money....

[@tewksburydriver8624]

A terminal prognosis will bring to light how smart or dumb, you've been with money throughout your life. Especially if you are young and leaving family who relied on you. I've seen it too many times when someone in their 30's or 40's gets cancer and the stress of finances only makes it worse.

[@glitchinthematrix555]

tewksbury driver our society breeds cancer as well so they probably got it just by living in this toxic hell hole

[@ThePooppantsman]

Dudes 100% spot on.

[@optimize.]

I’m surprised that the junk value of an unattainable body image is something Joe doesn’t understand/agrees with. I’m an athlete and being healthy and strong are wonderful values that have clear benefits both for health and wellbeing, but there are clear issues with telling people that you need to LOOK a certain way to be healthy or that these pictures represent a healthy goal. I know a lot about training and nutrition and I also know some fitness models and being that cut is 1) not something you can maintain, as it requires dehydration/water manipulation and going to extreme lengths to lower your fat % and 2) isn’t healthy, since the optimal fat % health wise is actually a little higher and being super shredded requires an often unhealthy eating and training regiment when squared against longevity and long term physical and mental health factors. It also causes a level of obsessive focus on training/eating, that actually induces stress and lowers overall happiness. (You look amazing, but all you see is that you’re 10% body fat i.s.o. 6-8, so you’re not where you ‘should’ be > stress) Additionally the vast majority of fashion shoots have a good amount of photoshop/computer manipulation in the editing process. That is the very definition of unrealistic. Even these people who literally spend 7 days p/week building this body aren’t cut enough to go on the cover/billboard as they look. Promote health all day long, I’m 100% for it, and get people exercising and eating healthy, but please don’t tell us the fashion/fitness ads they talk about lead to healthier people or that people are lazy if they don’t look like that. That’s clearly not true.

[@BarryBizzle]

Well worded! Agree 100%

[@Cinephileofmany]

Buddha - Kings Inc. Absolutely. I think Joe’s being a bit disingenuous when he suggests that these are achievable goals for many. Too many people are too busy to get shredded. Many more aren’t bothered, yes still might feel ashamed at not being ‘beach body ready’.

[@ronniekurtanska1180]

Buddha - Kings Inc. #Agreed 💯

[@westend7079]

Buddha - Kings Inc. nailed it , so true 👏👏👏

[@28copland]

Here here

[@iamURHO]

This is one of my most favorite things to talk about and probably one of my most favorite videos in my entire life. Thank you for this edit and for putting the name of the speaker.

[@mojcakrivec295]

I agree with both of them. Social media can harm people when used incorrectly, but can also open new possibilities and widen the horizon. Depends on what you choose to view (and consequently algorithms).

[@JohnstasBACK]

For me, my 'depression' stems from my daunting goals -- and the fear of not pulling it off. Time and resources are a huge factor that is terrifying to lose; especially time.

[@sp123]

Most success is a generational achievement. So many kids want to be a pro athlete without realizing that most pro athletes have parents who played at the division 1 level or higher. Most doctors and lawyers come from parents who were doctors and lawyers, etc. You have to be honest about your skills and lineage to figure out what goals are reasonable and unreasonable.

[@JohnstasBACK]

@@sp123 Thank you for this. You're right. I wish you'd spread this message to others. This is important to understand & know.

[@PiLLO360]

How is it going?

[@marybrewer2203]

I am filled with gratitude that the intrinsic things bring me joy much more often than external things. Serenity and inner calm is more precious than gold.

[@adamlake9507]

Johann is amazing. Lost Connections is an incredible book. One of my all time favourites

[@PreeminentbrandsNet]

I actually noticed this a couple years ago when I went to Paris. I found myself recording and going live to show where I was at. After that trip I noticed I didn't really get a chance to enjoy the MOMENTS. I came to the conclusion to enjoy myself to take 1 day out just to record and every day to leave my phone off and enjoy the moments

[@BeigeFrequency]

>Materialism doesn't make you happier >Flies to Hawaii to hunt deer with an expensive custom bow and post pictures on instagram.

[@tguthrie6]

That’s an experience that joe can financially afford. It’s different to being in a cycle where you’re wanting /buying things that make you happy in the short run but unhappy in the long run.

[@jordank1489]

My fishing rod is the first thing I bought that was more than $200. It's not because it has material value, but instead because it has intrinsic value to me. I know it's a bit garbled, but I hope that gives you an idea of the difference.

[@nickipelazza8727]

Spending your money on experiences rather than on material items is the opposite of materialism! Materialism would be collecting expensive custom bows without ever using them

[@AmpliphyHD]

This would make sense if travel was impossible without materialism

[@mmmab1000]

ADP you could make a boat and go. And some people enjoy hunting I guess

[@misslm267]

When I record something, it really is to watch it later but then I put it away because I want to actually enjoy the experience. My mom passed away so I am glad that I have old videos to look at and hear her voice

[@aodh5966]

Being rich won't make you happy, but having enough money will, and how you get it is probably the most important. I'd rather earn £25k a year doing something I love, then £50k doing something I hate.

[@smartwater598]

How about making millions doing what u love?

[@aodh5966]

@@smartwater598 well massive respect to the people who are smart and creative enough to make that happen!

[@matthewgonano636]

Sadly I love playing music but cannot survive off it

[@MortPure]

This guy right there gets it. Sometimes i simply think i'm going insane, but you know deep down it's the whole world that has it's values wrong. The last decade especially, what a trainwreck of an evolution....

[@ma2i485]

Society has become 80% superficial thanks to social media. Soon we will be 100% superficial when the Metaverse becomes the centre of our lives.

[@MortPure]

@@ma2i485 Accurate. This technology simply gave birth to a "hivemind" that we are stuck in today. Only getting worse too.

[@alexadnan1032]

Rogan missed the bigger picture and got stuck with the ad example

[@jucxox]

Yup

[@Daelion164]

He was right about the ad though. It got taken down because it made lazy people feel bad about themselves. He was also right about the importance of free speech aspect, the state should not be allowed to control what is advertised.

[@marcosrodriguez830]

@@Daelion164 It didn't make lazy people feel bad about themselves. You could work 60 hours a week as a lawyer and not have time to work out. Does that mean your lazy? The ad was designed to promote hollow values, and in London where the weather can already contribute to sadness, limiting the ways ads can attack your subconscious is just a straight up logical decision to me. Or don't limit it and have ever-increasing levels of depression for amybody who doesn't have the time or resources to get to that level.

[@Daelion164]

@@marcosrodriguez830 It did make them feel bad about themselves, why else would they be so mad about it. There's always time to workout, 45 mins 3 times a week is enough. It's a choice, you choose to be lazy and not workout or you choose to workout and stay healthy. Controlling advertising is nanny state territory which is good for nobody and limits the freedom of the people unnecessarily

[@LennyThroughParadise]

Nice to see big difference between Europeans and American, let’s keep it that way and more

[@fish25guy]

One of my pet peeves is when I'm behind someone at a concert and they are filming it thru their phone so it's hard to enjoy the band when 1000s of phones are out. I wish I could just go around smashing phones. That would bring me joy

[@stevegriddle4332]

Mine to man, and I spend lots of time working, money, days away from the wife and family. I’d guess that maybe some of the time the people filming/ taking pics with their phones up probably might be at their first show; I did take a few very pixelated pics with my old ass Kyocera at the first phish show I went to in my late teens. I ended up going on to see like 20 shows that year and never looked back. I’m now 32, I’ve learned to accept that I can’t be wasting my energy over the things I cannot control. Some people figure it out(I don’t even take my phone out until it’s set break. And even then I don’t really use it unless looking for a friend)It also depends on what shows you go to as well. Not a massive issue at phish shows(a good 75% don’t have their phones out filming shit because that’s not what we’re their for, or they got handed a business card that read “stop talking while the bands playing please” which you should try because people have more of a chance at being able to get the message without you even having to say a word. We can’t do anything about people what other people do at a event that they paid(hopefully at face value) to see. Just gotta deal with it or stop going to what ever shows your going too. Haha not giving advice. but it only ruins it for you to focus because people will always be doing this at concerts; just like theres always a drunk person yelling “FreeBird”, people causing chaos, talking while the band plays. You know, all the shit younger kids like to do before they have a real view of life lol check out> “phish-tube, from SuperBall . You will see what I mean by no phones 🎉 lol

[@zipmolly2301]

GREATEST talk show on Earth shout out to you Joe!!!✊

[@bistroautismo9602]

Money cant buy happiness but if I could afford to pursue my favorite activities and dreams at a higher clip, I would be a more satisfied human being.

[@jayeshchandawat4328]

Money can't buy you happiness, but lack of money can buy you lot of unhappiness😊😊😊

[@LukzehVI]

Joes point about the advert on the billboard was absolutely spot on

[@amb158]

I got rid of all social media about a year ago and I have been so much happier ever since, truly. Its insane how negative on you social media can be.

[@stevecoley8365]

Physical material things have no light, warmth, love, joy, magic, meaning, beauty and wisdom. But invisible metaphysical things like hope, faith, belief, trust, compassion, understanding and harmony do.

[@sandrosadhukhan]

@RagingThunder do you see gravity?

[@barbarianbattles1303]

This dude is a genius. 🤘🏼

[@aokiQ]

Totally agree. I was at Louvre couple years ago, nobody was looking at Mona Lisa, but taking a selfie with the painting then left, It was unbelievable

[@mikecroslin3743]

Exactly. Telling people what they already know. Just most people lack the maturity and dedication, and there's levels to that.

[@ab_still_unstoppable]

It's really easy to understand like everything we feel in our live we feel from within ourselves, outside situations just trigger the emotions if you understand this you will not worry about outside situations you will look inside and will definitely find peace.

[@zcrib3]

Everything has its benefit curve. The first bottle of water in a desert can be worth to you a million. 30th may be a dollar. A middle-income person has a living with all the utilities and comforts and most of the benefits of current tech. He is just used to it so no additional happiness os to be gained from it.

[@zakkzahariev4637]

On the topic of cellphones and shows, Jack White obliges the audience to put their phones in a compartment where they cannot access them during the show. If there is something urgent there is a phone zone near the merch booth. It's fantastic. You don't know when the show will exactly start and end, you don't film, you just get immersed with the show and the people around you! There is an added value to the fact that he has no set list therefore, everything is super spontaneous. It becomes your show, he will not have the same show the next day. Makes it more special each time I see him play. He might be an awesome guest for you! Btw I love the podcast, it really changes my perspective on life, each day. Thank you Joe and the team.

[@JohnstasBACK]

4:35 Yooooo i LOVE this attitude! Seriously. This is important to note.

[@RetroSkreamerz101]

If my family/friends don't take a selfie with me on my death bed and put it on IG, they never loved me to begin with.

[@stickers8447]

Easily one of the best guests he has had, the last podcast with Hari was spot on!

[@paulc1014]

I am at a point in my life where i feel happy with less material possessions. I used to be a crazed freak always wanting to buy the latest gadget, always wanting a better car than what i had, that was back 10 years ago when I was in college. Now all i have is what fits in a suitcase and I feel much more free mentally !

[@mryan4452]

Nice one never too late to realise this, it helps take away some of the unnecessary nonsense. I think long and hard before I buy something, to me it could potentially be hassle and will take up storage space.

[@JimexJimex]

Having lived in NYC where advertisements are EVERYWHERE made me completely immune to them. Trust me, after awhile it just becomes numb and you learn to ignore them. Plus, how feeble-minded you have to be to fall for those advertisements? Just because someone is trying to sell you something doesn't mean you have to buy it.

[@masterluitchangboro8821]

Ya. Thats the point that joe is driving. No doubt the guest is right too. But Joe is not wrong either. Its just an ad. Its just there. Like most people pass by it anyways. They dont wait to look it up.

[@ozhamdan]

Great discussion and lots of insights. thanks for this great post.

[@dfw1fast143]

Joes got more toys than we could dream of and I’ve seen him smiling pretty damn big playing with them.

[@adamromero]

That happiness is always temporary.

[@5ycey7.n.84]

In a way I was a lot less depressed when I had more "junk values", even if it was a bit empty. I do think it feels a lot healthier to be a more genuine person, but it's a massive downer to realize how firmly rooted the pursuit of junk is in america.

[@homescool3767]

my guitar makes me happy just looking at it makes me happy, brings me alot of joy!!!

[@abracadabra1550]

Me too 😊

[@muddhammer7834]

“Money can’t buy you happiness but you sure can pick your own misery!” R. Dangerfield

[@laurenr9659]

I love Joe's no BS attitude towards getting healthy and taking care of yourself.

[@luvfreedom1470]

I've learned to find happiness in experiences rather than things. Invest in experiences. In the end these memories are what you end up taking with you anyways.

[@Melly16yr10]

agree

[@youthful6098]

True.

[@coffeebeans7912]

I agree with him on the beach billboard thing. Aslong as you aren't fat/unhealthy you don't need a 6pack for going to the beach. Ads like those promote body issues, and the funny thing is majority of those fitness models have the most body dysphoria. What's the point of having a the perfect physique if you aren't even happy about it? Joe always has an obsession with having a peak physique, but that's not everyone's main priority in life.

[@tuckershort3094]

There's quite a bit of research that suggests that a household income of around $75k/year is where people's life satisfaction begins to plateau (much more than $75k/year is not going to increase life satisfaction by much, and there's even evidence that more than around $110k/year life satisfaction starts to go down). So pretty much the answer to the question of whether or not money makes you happy is: it does in the sense that it can cover your basic needs and offer you opportunities to pursue some hobbies (~$75k/year)

[@ricomajestic]

That really depends on where you live doesn't it! In some cities 75k is barely enough for you to pay your rent during one year!

[@xpat73]

"Please boss, pay me less so I can be happier" - said nobody ever.

[@ShawnFX]

Roe Jogan would say something like that

[@bloodcurdling3581]

Hahahhahahaha word!

[@romanticdonkey468]

Having an extra day off each week would give you more time to do things you enjoy, possibly resulting in less pay. Some people might like working less even if it means less money, so your statement might not be true.

[@TioJan01]

Romantic Donkey has it right, I work my own schedule and decided to lower my hours in order to enjoy more free time, thus resulting in less pay.

[@familiarstranger6891]

If you’re doing a job for something more than just money, you’ll never feel the need to ask that question anyway

[@661nunez]

The only thing that makes me more motivated to achieve better is when I see people who live in huge homes and own many many acres of land. That’s inspiration. Not people who own expensive cars or clothings.

[@donmacmilly]

From personal experience nobody can tell you money doesn't make you happy or materialism doesn't matter it's something you have to experience and have before it sets in. I was materialistic, but i had to actually own all those things to realize it doesn't matter. Someone can tell you money doesn't make you happy or materialism doesn't matter, but then there is a ongoing battle because you constantly see it thrown in your face in society. Once you get all those things there is no longer a battle and you speak from the perspective of having it not lack of. Yes you can decide you don't need alot of money to be happy or materialistic shit, but you stuck with the stress of conflicting belief in society. Every wealthy person have to experience buying everything they want and being materialistic before they move on to other things. So go out get rich and blow money on alot of dumb shit and get it out your system than fight with the idea you not needing it because those conflicting ideas you fighting against will make you unhappy.

[@jacobladder6165]

money is freedom..simple as...freedom to be who you want to be..if you are a jerk You will be a rich jerk. for me I would by status symbols I'd buy tools land etc. sure beats doing nothing

[@LDT7Y]

I would add that materialism has become a necessity in life now. I used to be a minimalist hippie type that didn’t care what brand of shoes someone owned. Then I was ousted from two jobs because I wasn’t into that stuff and was judged for it. I’ve also been rejected by multiple guys for a cheating gold-digger IG hoar type. So I’m not sure it’s possible to avoid being materialistic now unless you are willing to accept the negative effects of that. Men complain about gold-diggers, but those are usually the women they choose. Modern society is screwed.

[@24zmofoz-metalzone93]

The only thing I want to say about the recording a Elton John concert is that some people want to record for the memories not for the praise on social media. Like for example if I got a chance to see Linkin Park live I would want to record it so I can look back on it and be like wow I’m grateful too see them play. I could also understand his point of living your life through a phone.

[@chrisdurling9002]

He’s referring to the motives of why people post the video to social media.

[@josephpweaver]

What I'm taking away from this or concluding, in my mind, is that so long as intrinsic values come first extrinsic values can be enjoyed. The reason, for me at least, is that I can't enjoy the world around me if I'm burned out on it and not better off on the inside.

[@mykolababiyjr.3067]

Love the way he turns up the gears at 1:34

[@brianlowery3723]

Joe is missing a glaring issue on the beach body advertising, it is photoshopped.

[@laurenbarrett9096]

It's annoying me how much he is missing the point and almost glamourizing the body shopped, airbrushed unrealistic body image.

[@markian76]

Joe "interrupt everything" Rogan.

[@KeithAudet]

Was just going to make this same reply.. Someone needs to tell this fucker not to interrupt someone when they're articulating a response during any form of debate.

[@ashleyjmellor4486]

Really interesting, very well put across from both parties!😊👍

[@weniswarrior666]

I think his point with the beach body thing wasn't that those physiques showcased on the billboard were physically impossible, his point was more that the message that if you don't look like those people your body isn't ready for the beach is a bad message, because realistically most people aren't going to look like that even if they do care about fitness, they just won't have the time or the right genetics or whatever, but everyone should still be able to enjoy the beach without feeling ashamed of themselves.

[@tmward515]

Sounds like Joe should have interviewed Professor Cassor instead.

[@ThomasJames69420]

I agree with this guy with everything except his insistence that this be inplimented top down by a government. People need to be able to be free to choose not forced too

[@glitchinthematrix555]

legen belcher they should be forced to if it means the death and destruction of the entire planet due to their greed and lack of wisdom.

[@lunamcgrath3266]

At no point did he say that...

[@sashajasper497]

loves this guys passion and he is SPOT ON!

[@craigsmith1365]

Loving it in my 3rd street two person tent. Joe, your welcome any time.

[@moritzschroder]

Do a shot every time he says “Professor kasser”...

[@hardushelm6268]

Wolkify thought I was the only one...

[@DaPoopIsInDaPudding]

Wolkify fuck drinking

[@pastmasterdan4080]

Drive through a housing edition on any weekend, and check out how much materialism is stuffed into their garage. We consume to appease our egos, egos that have tried so hard to provide them income. We are engines of commercialism that conflates life with the acquisition of possessions, which is not living.

[@jbullets2175]

I think too that a lot of the advertisements especially involving fitness and-or beauty has images that are greatly photoshopped...which is something to take into consideration.

[@andreass9845]

where can i find the full podcast?

[@landonic81]

I threw out just about everything I owned a few years ago and started over. Minimalism is so much better.

[@saulgoodman2438]

Nick no it’s not

[@tguthrie6]

FAT NICK it is so much better. materials are just things that don’t mean anything obviously we need stuff but it’s not as important. What is important is the relationship that you have with your friends and family.

[@saulgoodman2438]

Taku Te Puke just what failed broke millennials say especially the ones who didn’t go to school.

[@TanNguyen510]

Damn bruh why didn’t you give em to me

[@landonic81]

@The Liberal Capitalist Yes I still own a phone and a bed and necessities dude. I just don't have endless useless shit anymore

[@kevinarmstrong7987]

Joe I own a Porsche and a new Tesla Rogan , tell us blue collar workers it doesn't matter .

[@markojosipovic2224]

It doesn't matter at all your purpose matters alot more Just because it doesn't make you happy doesn't mean you can't buy it

[@glitchinthematrix555]

jdl 96 yep, I’m a technician and other technicians are selfish materialistic alcoholic toxic pieces of crap with no wisdom at all and no goals for life outside of work.

[@MrRussianGerman]

This guest was awesome. Very pleasant and intelligent.

[@avina8960]

Main reason I have stayed away from social media. Never got into MySpace,FB,IG. If ima enjoy a moment, a view.. I wanna do it at that time and remember it in my mind.

[@Modestasgailius]

Deleted Facebook and probably gonna delete my Instagram to at some point because its turning into very toxic platform.

[@sicklygreyfoot]

Hari is NOT using a bad example. Joe is just completely ignoring the other factor in the equation. Yes, it's *possible* for some people to get bodies like that, which is why it makes us nervous for a governing entity to restrict that advertising. However, what Hari said was correct--the majority of people will never look like that despite their best efforts. Those efforts are hindered very often by their station in life, and to think they can just turn that station in life around "with some good old fashioned hard work" is so divorced from reality that it's not even worth mentioning. No I don't want to restrict people from achieving seemingly impossible dreams, but I also don't want lives ruined because they were attempting the unattainable. People with Joe's position here won't acknowledge the latter.

[@devineyre5545]

Doesn't this set a dangerous precedent though? How many people shouldn't be able to achieve something until we can no longer advertise for it? If a model wearing jeans is standing, should the ad be pulled for the sake of disabled people. If someone is modeling glasses and has blue eyes should the add be pulled because a large amount of people cannot attain that? If a model is a certain height, age or gender should an ad be pulled? Why is it the case with weight and not the other things?

[@sicklygreyfoot]

@@devineyre5545 I specifically stated that I didn't want to restrict anyone. I was pointing out that doing so wasn't that much more of disservice than peddling what we know is statistically impossible for a lot of people. People destroy their lives and even others when chasing things that become toxic when sold to the masses, not to mention undermining true individuality. Again, if it's not clear: I don't want to legally keep anyone from doing anything. But I won't pretend that what we have is A-ok, only better by so small a margin it isn't anything to be proud of.

[@devineyre5545]

@@sicklygreyfoot nice response, thanks for clearing that up 😀

[@rsflirter]

sicklygreyfoot yea very nice wording 👍 one educated fellow.

[@mgacy2957]

How to get a good body: Eat a healthy diet rich in animal protein and saturated fat, eat only to satiety, avoid carbs, and move more. You: Impossible feat for the average person.