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[@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks]

I met Billy Corgan on Whyte Ave, in Edmonton back in the mid 90's. He was coming out of Chapters Book store. My GF asked if we could take his picture, or get a picture with him. He said "I only do One of those." Dude was so chill, pretty playful. He made her guess which one lol. We gave her camera to his body guard, who took a few pics of the 2 of us with Billy. I've met a few Rockstars, and Billy was easily the most fun and human. He took his time with us, and laughed, and smiled. Made us feel special actually. Super cool guy.

[@shadowxlink123]

OrangeAzzClown Dope story

[@nebulous8389]

I met a road manager who traveled with billy during the future embrace tour he said he was a super nice guy

[@dansalmon2698]

lots of stars have walked it ! so cool

[@neowatch237]

so u did post it under clips and the full episode

[@Treron_Sinclair]

Awesome! Good times I bet 👍

[@mattington3001]

If Billy Corgan had his own podcast, I'd be an avid listener. He has great perspectives on life.

[@secondpsyght1354]

Mattington 110% agreed

[@sethrider6625]

Mattington nice pic, great album

[@2dollarcrew]

Totally!!

[@greenmatrix30seven]

There’s an idea

[@geoffw2275]

Was thinking the same thing. He's a natural.

[@Venturestarx]

I have worked for Billy before, and he was the same dude to me as he is with Joe. Genuinely a cool dude.

[@dirkdiggler5525]

Venturestarx explain or delete your post. Lol

[@wasteland-werewolf]

Someone told me years ago that he was a asshole,and very rude. I've never met the guy but he seems like he'd be very cool.

[@lueckbullet97]

Nemicus Diam I was a VIP guest services manager at the HARD Rock HOTEL....Because of that I have met with dealt with and hung out with almost all of the bands from mid 80's to the mid 00's. And Billy C. One ☝🏻 of the most coolest down to earth rock princess out there. That doesn't mean that if someone Pissed in his Cheerios he would be cool about it. He would rip your heart out. I guess what I am trying to say is that he is not a Pre-Madonna like Michael stipes and Lauren Hill!!!

[@nebulous8389]

Venturestarx I used to be a cashier at ralphs in Irvine and this road manager always used to come in. He traveled with Billy during his solo tour of future embrace and he said he was the nicest guy.

[@VictorPrata]

bullet Lueck Pre-Madonna? LOL

[@Acujeremy]

Listen to the entire Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness album from start to finish all the way through! A total masterpiece and one of the best albums that came out of the 90s decade.

[@annasloan2349]

Absolutely ageee. I remember the first time i heard anything from that album..it was the day it came out and my best friend and i were about 15 and walking down the street coming from dennys ( where kidd hung out for coffee in the town i grew up in.) A guy we knew was a huge fan of SP and he stopped to give ud a ride and bodies was playing..i was like what is this we r listening to and he said the new pumpkins double and he told me he had just bought it first day and had already listened to and wad just driving afound playing it over and over..after that the videos were everywhere on mtv and vh1...today that album is still listenable.

[@m.jamespratt3691]

Totally agree 1M%

[@RustyyRhyss]

Jeremy S. Siamese dream is the magnum opus

[@lyndongeer6627]

Yep, agreed

[@steve_cartier]

Ava adore*

[@pingfunk]

00:23 - Billy Corgan is the owner of the NWA (National Wrestling Alliance) 03:40 - Billy's early years growing up in wrestling culture / Roller Derby 06:00 - The NWA being older than the WWE, and how the different wrestling entities banded together 10:00 - Billy Corgan's father 16:00 - Chicago. Context from 14:40 37:20 - Smashing Pumpkins' first record contract 39:45 - The psychology involved on successful artistes by record labels 43:30 - The clause that Billy signed 45:45 - Billy & Napster 49:00 - Billy foreseeing the future of music (late 90s) 49:30 - Brand value vs. profitability (with music) 57:40 - Billy playing (an acoustic show) at a cemetary 59:10 - Small and large audiences being the same (for Smashing Pumpkins) / re: song appreciation 1:01:35 - Billy talks about getting into the mindset to be able to perform fans' favourite songs of his 1:08:50 - Billy is ok with more people knowing him for his most popular musical achievments 1:12:00 - When Billy bought a Ferrari with cash. Context from 1:10:30 1:14:00 - The original source of discontent within Smashing Pumpkins 1:24:00 - Billy notes two specific errors made in the music business (by labels etc) 1:26:30 - Billy and Joe talk about Conor McGregor a bit 1:28:30 - Billy asks Joe about Daniel Cormier regarding losing to Jon Jones (who then tested positive for steroids) 1:36:35 - Billy talks about Dennis Rodman (multiple anecdotes) 1:44:25 - Billy and Joe on close friendships while being a celebrity 1:48:00 - Joe asks Billy about seeing someone shape-shift

[@XFitness4LifeX]

pingfunk thanks bro

[@4000Wiggins]

Thx!!!!!!!!!!

[@jameswilcock6648]

Thanks man that was an actual informative use of the comment section...much appreciation.

[@jasonboley8316]

Awesomeness

[@thebrocialist8300]

Aut

[@leepicciotto]

I'm an audio engineer(no one special but I've been doing it for well over a decade), and I have to say this is probably the most truth I've ever heard about artists, music, and the industry spoken so freely in an interview, especially from someone of this stature.hes still brilliant imo. Top 5 episode.

[@ScottWengel]

I gotta hear your other top episodes. I'd put Pumpkins as one of my 3 favorite formative bands and i have to admit i've lost touch with Corgan as an artist and even pushed him away, but these 2 hours made me feel so guilty for that, From today on Billy can do whatever he wants and will have my undying devotion ... lol are your other fav episodes music related too?

[@f67739]

not a lot of us out here, brother. engineer-in-training, but still salute

[@Nick-mt5xx]

@@f67739 same here guys

[@Nautilus1972]

Dude, is that Jon Bon Jovi?

[@jims4592]

Wow, cool. I am also no one special.

[@conversacionesconmipadre]

Billy Corgan is actually delightful, intelligent and fun. He is so interesting and engaging in his conversation. Let alone being a genius musician. I have and will forever love the Smashing Pumpinks.

[@hostilegraveyard2849]

billy makes MAJOR KEYS sound EVIL. just like sabbath and maiden. takes talent,kemosabe.

[@christiangasior4244]

He is smugnorant, talentless now, and a complete dick. He needs to fuck off. He can speak fairly eloquently, but that doesn’t make him anything special. He’s a pompous rock star. Barf.

[@ruris189]

@@christiangasior4244 he came to romania and he had to play in a smaller place because very few tickets were sold (yeah, ik, us romanians have trash music taste). But the shitty thing was that he was angry at us, who came to the concert. He played very few songs and only one Smashing Pumpkins song. And he didn't say anything other than complaining the whole show. I mean, I understand his rage, but it was totally not our, the people who came to the concert, fault

[@tomvice]

Daniel Johns needs to use his wisdom and play old silverchair stuff knowing that he doesn't have to be the gimmick

[@avedic]

SP were in the day, and always will be, my favorite 90s band ever. All the other big ones were excellent and I love them too. But...the Pumpkins were something altogether different. Their output was _enormous_ ....the b-sides and rare songs and demos and on and on...there's SO much. Easily 4x their studio output. And it's _all_ excellent music. Sure, there's some weak songs with that kind of output...but the overwhelming majority of it is just incredible. Hell...their last album of that era...Machina II(just a toss-off free album) is fucking amazing. So.....all that said, I'm a fan lol. And I really enjoyed this podcast. Billy circa-now is actually a pretty cool human being. He's quite smart...but also increidbly odd and unique, but very aware of that...and just going after what he wants in life.

[@margaretmoore3595]

Despite all his rage, Corgan will never wrestle in a cage

[@panti77]

raise your hand if you sang the sentence in your head just to see if it fits..

[@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335]

Lmgdao this comment god damn i fucking love it

[@AimeeSalter]

😂🤣😝

[@j_freed]

He would wrestle *Brüno* in a cage, great hee hee hee!

[@1960jackrussell]

and you'll never achieve what he has

[@KD-Nexus]

god I love Billy Corgan. He is so articulate and honest in interviews.

[@Tristan_again]

Gish, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - certainly some of the best albums of the 1990s and possibly some of the best albums ever made.

[@christiangasior4244]

And then it went downhill fast and he gets lower with each album . Siamese Dream is brilliant though.

[@masterofspellign]

Christian Gasior Monuments is a great album too. Probably one of their best since Siamese Dream I would check it out if I were you.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

You forgot Oceania.

[@RB-.-]

Adore is better than Gish & Pisces

[@AltCTRLF8]

Adore was underrated and STILL ahead of its time.

[@tidepride86]

Damn, Corgan is a hell of a speaker.

[@bottosrob]

I know, he gets all of life as concepts, organized and gets how it all reacts with each other. Then states it so well. At the end of every thought I couldn't have a response. It's always complete.

[@jamessteele7102]

Mr. Johnny_Raincloud It's because he's gifted with a high verbal IQ.

[@Denzel_Watchington]

Obviously Captain fucking obvious

[@xavierramos1115]

Well of course! Listen to the genius of Smashing Pumpkins lyrics.

[@tidepride86]

xavier ramos They're amazing. Favorite song by them is "Mayonnaise"

[@nickschneiderman9281]

Mayonnaise will always have a special place in my heart

[@duncefunce1513]

Me too. A ham sandwich is nothing without it

[@nebulous8389]

Lite mayonnaise or regular? I feel they both easssee the painnnn

[@joshlarsen9654]

Tuning the guitar for that song is a bitch, lol

[@nebulous8389]

@@joshlarsen9654 honestly not really lol but the tuning is so much fun to play with that song!!!

[@sydbarrett5]

That whole album was killer.

[@chrisr5476]

Billy Corgan is an absolute genius. I love this guy and his mind. I really wish he would come back on this podcast more often.

[@chrisr5476]

also when is his book coming out? i would like to buy it. thanks ^-^

[@joep2464]

Billy is not what I expected. Smart, articulate, funny, and fun to listen to. Great podcast, my only regret is that I didn’t listen to it sooner.

[@happysmile6095]

Joe P hope that helps open your mind to listen to other things outside your own personal views. expansion.

[@genebuesking5101]

Same here, just now listening.

[@gijoey5912]

Things I remember from the mid-90's. The Bulls dominating the NBA, and the Pumpkins dominating MTV.

[@DylanJ138]

And myself being born. 1991 BABY!

[@dirkdiggler5525]

Gi joey early 90's pumpkins ran MTV.. with 1979, bullet with butterfly wings, 33, tonight tonight, zero. 3 of which hit number 1 and tonight tonight won song of the year

[@endoffate5475]

And Today..And more lol

[@TonyTars]

Dirk Diggler, None of those songs are from the early 90s. All are 95 and later.

[@anthonyjackson192]

Gi joey oh yeah, I 'member!!!!

[@BillNeilan]

This is probably on of my favorite JR interviews. Billy Corgan is so interesting to listen to.

[@AussieBassplayer]

After listening to this, have alot more respect for Billy,

[@mes98yng22]

Stranger in the Alps Have examples?

[@coryvincent1932]

Lefty crap? Billy is a staunch Republican.

[@hectormerc350]

This guy make me feel good about growing up in the 90s. He is legit

[@williamhinson4603]

Hector Merc Hell ya!!! Amen me too! I met a younger guy the other day about 15 and when I told him I grew up in the nineties he said “wow like w Nirvana, no internet, cell phones and last of the good music!”

[@hectormerc350]

William Hinson yup that’s happened to me as well. I feel like when I saw my elders be part of the 70 s and The doors

[@buddhanature3098]

@@williamhinson4603 Well pretty much everyone had access to the internet by 1997.

[@richardkocksworthy8423]

People want me to be this weird vampire character but its not me. ........Proceeds to wear coat like a cape for entire interview.

[@whups1744]

Also I'll casually mention I performed in a cemetery.

[@DAN_ZEMAN]

HahaahH

[@jbonner9827]

and dressed in all black

[@jamesweatherford6728]

Good point

[@bojokowski]

Haha. I was thinking the same thing. I think this was great to hear for a longtime fan. Buh yeah, how cold was it in there.. Joe wearing t-shirt..

[@domtgtheonly1]

1979 has a special place in my heart

[@meyou-dv8ns]

Same for me i was 13 then-

[@demiurge8665]

oink ooink are we talkin’ the actual year 1979 or when the song came out? I’m tryna figure out who’s older lol.

[@domtgtheonly1]

@@demiurge8665 I was talking about the song

[@demiurge8665]

DOMTG oh right on, we’re about the same age lol

[@TheBC313]

Same. That song and music video just defines the 90's for me.

[@protokevinleversee975]

Man Billy Corgan is seriously super well spoken, humble, and intelligent. He's grown massively

[@nutsafloppin3718]

Proto Kevin Leversee humble? His ego is thick

[@jonmarcmondor]

He's so into himself! Haha

[@rmatic2295]

Haha he also definitely knew that Marilyn Manson came out of Florida, but just didn't acknowledge it! :P

[@kg7142]

I can tell by their bald heads that there are exactly 2 light fixtures on the ceiling. ☆ ☆

[@imdevonur]

KG 😂😂😂😂😂

[@WhiteBuffaloWakanGli]

More than 2

[@Chiefthepup]

KG hahahahahaja

[@kg7142]

DevilsAdvocate hahahahaha

[@rivblack]

lol wtf man >_

[@ayditho9307]

I'm a mild Pumpkin fan, but I had always assumed Corgan was insufferable. I was totally wrong, and this is a fascinating interview.

[@AltCTRLF8]

Trey Kalb i think he was labeled “insufferable” or “difficult” or an “asshole” by the music business because he refused to give in and sell out

[@travistravinyle4207]

Met him 4 times. Insanely generous human. Spends hours some tours to interact with fans outside the venues.

[@iergosum]

Trey Kalb Man, I thought I was the only one that felt this way lol

[@eartheternal3565]

Trey Kalb "A mild pumpkin fan" is the gayest thing that anyone has ever said.

[@SwordAgainstChaos]

Trey Kalb this is good stuff.

[@LtLippen]

I'd love to see Trent Reznor on this podcast.

[@swikarpyakurel8863]

And Josh Homme

[@lv999sozkyy4]

Fuckin oath

[@eartheternal3565]

Trent Reznor would be great but Edgy Bravo would have to be there because liked Corgan, Reznor is a total pro and knows how to stay in his comfort zone, talking about the things he's recited time and time again, as eloquent and engaging as he always is. I think Bravo would throw him some real curve balls given the opportunity and I'd like to hear Reznors take all things Eddie, hoping he wouldn't just brush it all off.

[@EverGreen1888]

Id honestly pay money for that

[@courtneyhunter2952]

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[@jaysonsneaux78]

Its amazing how much of a genius Billy is. I was in school when the scene blew up with Nirvana Pearl Jam & Alice n Chains and it was amazing but people forget how huge Smashing Pumpkins was. They were big time and what a superb time in music history.

[@cbeckwith172]

Jayson Sneaux yeah they were just as big as those band but the problem was they started hitting peaks at the end of the grunge wave, Mellon collie was a huge peak album and that came out 4 years after nevermind and ten, and soundgarden, those bands kinda lost steam by the end of 94, pumpkins blew up right around early 94 with Siamese dream and the b-sides album, Gish didn’t have the impact like ten or nevermind, it wasn’t until MC in 95 when that came out they were peak fame, that was after Kurt died so it was late

[@cavemantero]

lost steam at end of 94? lol. it was more like ~1997 when RIAA act ruined music for decades

[@johndro3014]

Lost steam at the end of 94?

[@jcefalo2001]

I didn’t [forget] ;)

[@HeritageWealthPlanning]

guitarist from Alice In Chains was in B’last for a bit. One of greatest bands ever.

[@jessehernandez9526]

I've seen Billy on numerous interviews. Never have I seen him flip flop on ideas just to please the host or audience. The one thing I can appreciate about Billy the most is his fresh perspectives on life. Joe you have to get him on your show again.

[@johndro3014]

I would be interested to see M.Manson on JRE

[@DamnSkippy1]

Best JRE interview I've ever seen. Joe did a good job asking questions and allowing a fully articulated response. Billy Corgan was very interesting to listen to and was refreshingly honest and candid with his comments. A+

[@mmallen2003]

Billy Corgan is a fucking genius and his songs got me through elementary/middle school lol. "The world is a vampire" is so much truer today and it was then!

[@suleckiew]

Wow, this podcast was awesome. I hope Billy comes back on in the future, what a guest, good snag Joe!

[@mykmcgrane]

Agreed. What a great, great, guy. Super informative and opening episode from one of the bands of my youth. I'm an '88 baby and a 90's kid, so SP was my shit back in the day when I shouldn't have been into it. So great.

[@AustinKloud]

Edward Sulecki totally agree

[@j_freed]

It presents the man and the artist the way he had to be to make the art he did, and a human being who was born of course not understanding all that he had yet to learn.

[@erichalverson8384]

I concur.

[@dirtymfnsanchez]

Oh my! As a Chicago kid growing up late 80's early 90's this was the best JRE ever! Da Bulls!

[@xYouthAttackx]

DA BEARS...Miiiiikke Diiitkkaa

[@thedude2867]

Most people don't know Billy was a talented athlete in the day.I used to play football with him every once and a while and the guy could throw the ball.Also the guy is a really hard worker,I remember them playing at small clubs, in the early 90s ,to crowds of 50 people sometimes less.The band kept gringing it out until Joe Shanahan(owner of the Metro) took them under his arm and really helped the Pumpkins get launched onto the national music scene.

[@CL-xp4ee]

Joseph Decorrevont that’s cool

[@timanctil8225]

Musically and lyrically this man is a genius. Thank you for finding your calling, Billy... the world is a better place because of your music.

[@gerardovitale81]

The shapeshifting story, the best cliffhanger, now I have to follow Billy until his book is released, brilliant!

[@teleportmassive537]

Gerardo Vitale did they talk about it in this podcast?

[@terribletimes01]

Joe" I've been waiting 1 hr 50 mins to ask the shape shifting story"Rogan

[@AXharoth]

he knows how to market shit xD

[@teleportmassive537]

729Drew wow smh...

[@EGoltz]

Gerardo Vitale and the I went back to not liking Billy

[@game_theory2547]

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was a classic and timeless album. Siamese Dream was really good too.

[@raoulsghouls]

GAME_ THEORY agreed. MACHINA is my favorite though. It's kind of the band's swan song in a lot of ways. Unfairly unrecognized but deeply rewarding the more you pay attention to it.

[@SuzySpeed01]

When Joe said "Pitbull" and laughed to himself for a good second, I felt that.

[@KoolMada]

He laughed because pitbull sucks.

[@daftnord4957]

Pitbull? i thought we were talking about music. lol

[@MichaelRector-qf7xp]

It says a lot about Billy to have that kind of a father and still have a good attitude about him

[@djtaitai]

He should definitely invite more musicians on the show. Hearing different perspectives of the music world is super fascinating, similar to an actor and the crazy world of acting.

[@alanthemover2541]

Billy Corgan just added a new fan of him as a person (always loved his music). Solid dude right there.

[@jonathanrossmusic2509]

This is great but I wish it were another hour long.

[@Casket1488]

Definitely one of my top five guitar players. As far as his playing I think he’s under rated. If you listen to Siamese Dream from start to finish you’ll understand what I mean. Such a great album

[@christiangasior4244]

He is good but that albums sounds great because of his great tone and the overdubs. Btw one of my favorite albums.

[@stevebrignoni5254]

@@christiangasior4244 best album ever written

[@walterthekid8872]

Him on an acoustic guitar is amazing

[@nebulous8389]

I'm sure you checked out cyr by now?

[@MorgansTrainClips]

The Geek USA solo is insane lmfao he’s so underrated

[@icarus432hz9]

Billy was a badass guest, i loved those 90s Bulls stories towards the end, the cherry on top of the cake.

[@Cory989]

Dude was a legit guitar wizard back in the day. Pretty underrated imo

[@2175Martin]

Was ???? C'mon man , dude still kills it

[@Cory989]

i know right. I seen him tear it up in Nashville and Louisville the last couple years.

[@JamesPawson]

First time I sat through a JRE all the way through. Corgan is so insightful and interesting--wish they kept talking about politics at the end, I could listen for another hour.

[@jcc152509]

Gish was their best. Overall, I think they are pretty overrated.

[@LAductions]

Me too, me too. I also was never able to sit through a whole interview. He is such a pleasure to hear, I never knew, with all his vampirish performances. I knew that he was smart and well read, but he feels so grounded too.

[@commitdubs]

Go check out the Henry Rollins one

[@jamesweatherford6728]

Overrated?!!, do you know anything about music? Music theory,structure,and technically they can be called many things , but overrated would be inaccurate.

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

Only thing overrated is Billy Corgan himself. Without the original lineup his music was average at best. Granted, he did have a few decent songs without the original line up (The Celestials and Pinwheels). But go listen to his solo songs. Most make me cringe. Also...I don't remember which interview it was, but he had trouble recognizing why Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters remains more relevant than him. That answer is quite simple. Dave is a great guy. He is funny. He treats his bandmates and fans with respect. The Foo Fighters aren't all about him being the genius. The bandmates truly contribute and it often looks like they are having fun doing it. Dave isn't an emo crybaby "artist" blaming everyone for not accepting the newly evolved person he became. Having said all that, Billy is definitely smarter and more eloquent than I'll ever be. That doesn't make him a great person. He seems to blame everything from the fans to the system without taking a good look at himself. I get it though. He wants the Smashing Pumpkins to be something that transcends music and persists long after he's gone. I'm not sure what he means by that, but my guess is he wants each of us to believe we can step outside the contrived "system" and succeed on our own terms. Too evolve as individuals without sacrificing our dignity and dreams for a security blanket.

[@nivek1160]

I would absolutely love to see you have an interview with Manson!!!!

[@aaroneusjames2342]

me too.

[@jmejnovotney8942]

Word

[@katmomkristy2779]

Yes!!!

[@buxxzy8471]

duuuude

[@buxxzy8471]

@Matthew Lund no, charles... *rollseyes

[@dannykingston6495]

Cherub Rock, Drown & this interview. Billy Corgan, you're my hero.....again. Good on ya, brother.

[@taylorgulf108]

You can tell Joe truly respects this guy, which is a rarity

[@AXharoth]

not true Joe respects a lot of people xD

[@andreads502]

Joe said hes a fan of his music

[@taylorgulf108]

GongsunXin Yeah, what I should of said is that Joe let Billy talk the majority of the podcast, which certainly is rare.

[@lifemusic1980]

Because he is smart and a critical thinker. He gets such a bad rap.

[@jdog4534]

GongsunXin , true, he does. But it was over the top with this guy. he seemed to be starstruck, like when he had james hetfield and when he had dan bilzarin on. There were tones of ass kissery.

[@kain12343]

Billy Corgan was a fascinating listen. Thanks for the great podcast, it was really enjoyable.

[@erichami]

True. This is a case where less is more.

[@doc9684]

Billy corgan you kick ass bro...im 53 and the disarm lyrics was me when i was 10 yrs old...keep up the good work. Much respect 4 you...

[@Calilou52]

you should get Jerry Cantrell on the podcast

[@missplasticpony]

Dr. Hughie L Mungus M.D yes!!!!

[@MisfitsAddict77]

Hell yeah man !!!!

[@RobertSmith-zw7lf]

Him or Sean Kinney the drummer

[@CJM-rg5rt]

I second that, I love the alt. singer songwritery stuff but metal is my shit. AIC is like a newer darker Black Sabbath.

[@MiloshRistanovich]

Yes!!

[@ryanlucas3907]

Billy Corgan = Awesome. Real down to earth guy, and comes off as honest, not some hollywood PoS worried about his image.

[@charlesware5767]

Billy is so articulate and interesting. Such sophisticated views insight awareness and opinions. Amazing to see a completely new view of music. I really respect him. This was quite unexpected. What an interview. Really interesting guy and life. I have a renewed appreciation for him and completely different outlook from all the hate I hear. I enjoyed this as much as any interview I've ever seen. What a complex intelligent guy. He is a cultural icon. Cheers Billy, you are a true artist and a sincere person.

[@jkomrad]

I've been a fan of Smashing Pumpkins, and actually never heard an interview with Billy Corgan.... one thing is clear from this interview... Billy is a really cool and genuine guy, and above all, he's a totally highly intelligent genius.

[@Madmaz23]

Very intelligent and well spoken, also great insight on the music industry. One of my fav episodes so far!

[@chihuahuaman7025]

I was never a pumpkins fan. I didn't mind a few songs but I always respected Corgan as a musician but that respect grew after watching this episode. He's such an interesting guy and seems pretty down to earth. I would totally watch a pumpkins reunion concert.

[@aplaguedoctor406]

Go watch "Vieuphoria"

[@luminous6969]

The best songs were never played on the radio. So if that's all you've heard, you prob don't have an accurate idea about their music as a whole.

[@jamesweatherford6728]

If your a music fan and you get a chance its worthwhile.Its not the same ol formula bullshit concert. He is a true artist. Artistic integrity and an altruistic approach to his fans and music itself are evident when he performs.

[@francesfarmer7654]

Listen to Gish

[@evildoctortaco]

Well do I have news for you

[@Taylorsaskatchewan]

The Joe Corgan experience

[@Mattpein]

Taylor Saskatchewan lolol

[@zachbaker5259]

Joe got excited when he thought he could buy DMT from Corgan's dad.

[@Marc-rk3os]

😂😂😂

[@skeletonshorror5184]

Hahahahahahha💀🔥❤️

[@rookyofficial]

This show is a fucking DREAM COME TRUE. Billy corgan was my childhood hero and a huge reason I got into music and guitar. THANK YOU JOE! Keep being amazing bro!!!

[@ToLoQueVesPodcast]

Rooky Music Lol, that's so sweet😘

[@TLGZOID]

damn bro DREAM BIGGER please

[@Cleffification]

Dammit Jamie, you were supposed to accidentally leave the mics going during the shape-shifter story.

[@policestate4874]

Cleffification ha. Yeah, I heard him tell that, I think on Alex Jones show. I wish he gave more details.

[@MartiQBD]

I really got into this JRE. Spr cool to see Billy Corgan & hear his thoughts. Level headed dude, I dig that.

[@corycourtney8923]

Hearing Billy Corgan talk about the Axis just brought me back to my childhood.

[@G3SM]

This was the interview I never knew I needed.

[@bennytroung]

Billy looks like Darth Vader with his helmet off.

[@kennethledford9877]

Benny Troung lmfao!!!

[@mrjswain123]

this made me laugh so hard !!

[@kennethledford9877]

Fuckin hell.. haa

[@EdouardPicard0224]

And you look like the asian version of Fred Durst

[@kirkmbutterfield]

Hes always cold. I think after he lost his hair its a physical technicality. Lol jk

[@TanukiDigital]

Never understood why nobody likes Adore... I thought the whole album was a masterpiece.

[@williamhinson4603]

TanukiDigital infinite sadness double album

[@greenmatrix30seven]

It was a good album and it sold well but it was a tank. Cuz everyone excepted it to be infinite sadness pt 2. But it wasn’t. So...those are some of the reasons why

[@KapBoy77]

100% agree man!! My favourite SP album by far. So great.

[@Hell_Inc]

I love it, but I remember back in the day that it was too huge of a leap from Mellon Collie. I can understand why it wasn't very popular. Also the music scene at the time was getting pretty aggressive with the rising of nu metal and all.

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

It was just one of those albums that felt different from the rest; it felt like the new millennium.

[@barbieuwanawich7871]

Billy Corgan super present and intelligent... I could listen to him 5 hours more...

[@joemo1033]

Great guest, great show. Nice job boys.

[@avedic]

After that Tom DeLonge episode.....I'm genuinely nervous to watch this. I'm a *_HUGE_* Smashing Pumpkins fan....was genuinely obsessed for many years. Not super into the new stuff...at all. But, he's already proven his creative genius many times over, so I'll always be a big fan. But....Billy can get kinda nutty on certain issues. And I just hope to hell he hasn't gone full Tom DeLonge on us.... About to hit play....hoping this'll be a good one!

[@AquanautSt1]

YES ! a good omen before I partake! Thank you

[@avedic]

Ok....big sigh of relief. I'm 20 minutes in, and it's clear this is gonna be a killer episode. If anything, I'm gaining even _more_ respect for Billy than I had before. He has his flaws _for sure_, but he's a legit interesting human. And him and Joe seem to be really clicking. Back to watching!

[@miker2530]

Joe Morrell enuff said your free to die in a nursing home now sir

[@denniscarl9193]

M Reno D Reno

[@snakeskinner2]

Wow I was pleasantly surprised at how intelligent this guy is! Great guest

[@TheSiameseDreamer]

He's a genius

[@steveyOhmey]

hes a full on jazz musician... gotta be switched on for that

[@westyw.4235]

He's always been gifted - I heard he played every instrument except drums on Siamese Dream.

[@TheSiameseDreamer]

He had to do that due to time running out and being able to get the parts perfect in less time than the others. MCIS is an entire band effort though

[@westyw.4235]

Thank you, I don't remember who told me that but I didn't think Billy was a prick for doing it. First time I heard Mayonaise I had a sonic orgasm, been a fan ever since. I need to check out his new stuff for sure - peace!

[@sonortubelug3853]

Jimmy Chamberlin is a hell of a drummer. That kept me listening to the end. Lots of bands use triggering these days for consistency of sound (not all i.e Ray Luzier etc) but jimmy understands attack and tone and has the technique to do it live, effortlessly. Watch some drum cam gigs.

[@jonathanstewart1519]

Saw one from '94. Dude tore it the fuck up. Sucks he couldn't kick his addiction sooner, the band would of went so much further

[@kristopherryanwatson]

oh yeah, because MellonCollie in 1995 did so poorly.

[@grandmasterplank]

What a decent, humble and eloquent man Billy Corgan is. Eye-opening. Total respect.

[@Jonny-pl6qj]

Incredible podcast! I've been a Pumpkins fan for two decades and have always hoped Billy was a good person and this cemented that. Phenomenal musical ability that shaped everything from that point on. Would kill to see him in an acoustic setting and play whatever he felt! Just made my month hearing this, well done Joe! You the man. Keep it up.

[@liamc8729]

G.I. Jonny you should go to his tea shop Madame Zuzu's in Highland Park Illinois. It's right by my house and sometimes he plays sets there. Mostly just experimental stuff. Also, yeah Billy's a cool guy. My uncle knew Billy in the 90s because he was the lead singer for the Drovers and they were both Chicago guys. That's why I'm a Pumpkins fan today. My uncle gave me Gish on CD as a kid and I've been a fan ever since. If you go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame there's even a concert poster for a Drovers/Smashing Pumpkins show. Pretty awesome stuff.

[@matthardy8821]

Nirvana, pearl jam and the smashing pumpkings that was my teenage years. Soma and cherub rock by the pumpkins are absolute masterpieces.

[@kymberlishea2036]

Matt Hardy Soma. Siva👌👌

[@APisceanSlant]

+Matt Hardy Same. 1990-94.5 was a time, indeed

[@kurtromancheck1561]

Alice In Chains topped them all

[@jessicakeller178]

GISH

[@dongato6838]

Billy is one of the greatest musicians of his generation (Siamese Dream is one of the greatest albums ever written). But the jacket makes him look like Darth Vader without his helmet.

[@blackieblack]

Siamese Dream will always be my #1.

[@hansmdinkermaniiv1665]

Don Gato it was filmed on Halloween it was a darth Vador costume

[@CoastGhost13]

Lol it's just a down jacket around his shoulders.

[@petewadesays12]

I kept asking "Hey....Billy? Can you put your arms in the sleeves? I mean sure you are doing your same "LOOK AT ALL THE WORK ONLY I DID" spiel and fine....but.....can ya ditch the coat? lol. Glad I wasn't the only one bothered.

[@7star7storm7]

Haha fukn a! Artists and there eccentricities

[@meg2231]

"the Spotify thing is dirty" "there's always a price"

[@mitchapalooza1]

I feel like we often come here to shit on Joe or the guest, but no complaints on this one. And I have to say that I really noticed that Joe seemed on point and focused with his questions today. Did a really good job of leading the conversation and drawing thoughtful responses from Billy. Obviously Billy was an extremely eloquent and engaging guest. A good exchange of energy regardless. Loved this one.

[@aprilurbanek9505]

He's back on the cannibus #Focused

[@ROESPLETZ]

I agree to what you said 100% well said! I come here cause I think Joe has a great mind and with his popularity he’s able to pull some pretty interesting guests. Not to hang on his nuts I just like the guy!

[@robertchamberlin2072]

So boring.zzzzzz

[@mikeschmidt2257]

You don’t think joe ended the interview because billy wouldn’t tell the story?

[@whileistaysecluded]

Mitchell Gelz well said!

[@patel210]

Joe **takes a deep breath, opens eyes real wide, leans back, slaps table with open palms** Rogan

[@andyoncea]

Joe "That makes sense" Rogan

[@Napalmnate]

Also Joe "fascinating" Rogan

[@Thholyghstt]

More like Billy “DOES that make sense?” Corgan

[@kitdarling]

You can tell some of what Billy was saying went right over Joe's head lol

[@baewuf]

I don’t think billy corgan would let brendan fat boy interview him

[@Sleepgarden]

Joe "Everything's a unique perspective" Rogan

[@yeahboiii6640]

I could watch a few more hours with Billy!! I found myself seriously enthralled in this one Joe!! Billy has some really great insightful thoughts.

[@montybrewster7]

That was without doubt one of the most interesting & surprising interviews I've ever heard. Billy Corgan just made my 'dream dinner guest' list. Thanks Joe. And thanks Billy for being so bloody awesome!

[@sunnythymes5444]

Monty Brewster Me too

[@ThePurdue]

Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon collie....some of my favorite albums of all time. Bury me, hummer, drown, mayonnaise, Snail, geek usa...check these songs out if you wanna see some wild alternative music. Great guitar and amazing drums by jimmy chamberlain

[@greenmatrix30seven]

I concur

[@AltCTRLF8]

most of their best songs were the “fillers”

[@BrianDBoyd-do7iu]

Mayonaise*

[@kevinkibble8342]

Bury Me is so, so good. One of his best solos. Glad to see it named!

[@blairchristieson9196]

You missed out pisces iscariot one of the most underrated albums made up from b sides from gish and siamese dream and their earlier eps

[@delunamendivil]

This interview is so refreshing and smart. I could Listen to Billy all day long and learn.

[@craigtpat]

Hearing Smashing Pumpkins brings this memory every time . While i was at Marine Combat Training (MCT), Camp Geiger NC; My Grandfather had passed away. He was in the Army retiring as a LtCol. His passing was during our field week in late 1995 if memory serves. In short I was in a rather low place as one can imagine. On the return hump The platoon Sgt. turned "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" into a road march cadence. I can see him after all this time sounding off on my shoulder keeping me going. Yes we are new Marines and instructors are hard asses. I have much apparition for them looking out for me in difficult times. On a side note The Co 1stsgt asked me if i would be returning home for his funeral. I told him i would not and continue training. My grandfather would have wanted me to stay. We shoke hands and nearly in tears said i have seen many before me who chose to delay their training. Back to training i went. Semper Fi

[@AMG-316]

Semper Fi bRo!!! I think Smashing Pumpkin's did a lot for the fellas from our generation!!

[@LifenPlay]

This is a great podcast Joe! Im really blown away by Billie's inteligence and the overall chemistry you guys have.

[@fatjimmy7499]

It's great to hear the guest talk for once. No aliens, DMT, adderal, yoga, hunting, sober October, etc so far. How refreshing

[@pfossful]

Fat Jimmy Agreed

[@EGoltz]

Fat Jimmy well you must of missed the shape shifting claim

[@fatjimmy7499]

mike kletorez lol i wrote the comment before i finished the episode. They really snuck that in at the end

[@EGoltz]

Fat Jimmy everything was perfect before that shit

[@fatjimmy7499]

mike kletorez wellll... Billy did claim that Rodman picked up a grown man with one hand by the top of his head...

[@StickmanCyclops]

Joe Rogan: "The Spotify thing is dirty." Joe Rogan in May of 2020 does an exclusive deal with Spotify.

[@ejs93033]

nice

[@autumnvolume4181]

Yeah, as it turns out, we're all hypocrites.

[@but2fly]

I actually wonder if this conversation sparked other conversations with people that helped structure the deal Joe wanted vs the one he might have signed.

[@thedappercook]

fuck me, who wouldnt!

[@bustos1959]

Hey no one can go to comedy club or any sports entertainment so no money is coming in... he has a family. He know this deal is good for him and family financially. He was smart and decided that this what he loves to do and good at..will get him over monetarily do to a pandemic. The virus has ruing all restaurant, retail shopping, theaters, you should bow ..for he will come out through the other side of the muck ..while others will not probably come out of at all.

[@PiecefulMoments]

Please interview Dave Grohl Joe! 🤘

[@kujojotaro8079]

We need this👏👏

[@SirChadofWick]

Call up Trent Reznor and get him on here soon.

[@rogerhoke9725]

Chad Marshall I just don't think Trent is the type of person to talk about everything he does for multiple hours at a time. But if joe could get him on here and talking it would be amazing.

[@SirChadofWick]

Roger Hoke he’s been on long form interviews before. Maybe not THIS long but I can definitely see him opening up more at this stage of his life.

[@stinkfinga4918]

Theres no way, its too laid back and casual. He never ges into anything non-business related.

[@kniveznor1]

Hope it happens.

[@darragh9512]

I would love to hear this, it would be among the dream podcasts for me and considering they live in LA maybe it is possible, or maybe get Dave Grohl, but he is on tour so not possible. Joshua Homme would be a good second.

[@zaklinaczcipek]

their heads are brighter than my future

[@AerialEyesProduction]

And bigger. Much, much, bigger.

[@Cuyt24]

You don't have a bright future though

[@riffraff9070]

Lmao! 😂

[@pr0n3]

Hahaha! Nice!

[@gin5sey]

Best comment

[@MC_Hammerpants]

Sad Billy was born without arms

[@jotade2098]

that's why he sits to play guitar

[@mewgiah8057]

Omg i was drinking coffee when i saw this, spit it all out.

[@ahmo2]

Billy can´t even drink coffee without a straw.

[@gasnier2020]

I feel emotional when Corgan says he'd do it differently if they got back together with Chaimbs, İHA, Darcy. İ would pay whatever it takes to see the original band. I never got to see Iha and Darcy of which all were great in mine and my brothers view. I still admire them forevermore.

[@rdesutter76]

Billy Corgan for President. The guy understands how power corrupts.

[@tedl7538]

Actually, with Corgan's misguided Trumpian politics, I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Oval Office.

[@siddhant717]

Thanks for delegitimising everything you've to say here. @Ted L

[@JackMcCrack10]

@@tedl7538 democrat weirdo

[@Abrahamhamham]

I like this kind of comments. It's like being a Selena Gomez fan and saying "Selena for president!" Stop it. You have no idea what presidents do. They have no power.

[@giblet1618]

Thanks for having Billy on Joe. Great Interview !!!

[@ChrischrosBelgium]

The music from the Smashing Pumpkins gives me very strong emotions. It has something special....i have never felt it with other songs.

[@matthewtyler5615]

Agreed

[@ldjt6184]

Any song more than another?

[@TheAndroidlegsforall]

ChrischrosBelgium The band that made me truly appreciate music. BTW I was 9 when I first heard SP and I thank my father for introducing me.

[@ChrischrosBelgium]

Most of them i guess. But some more then others. And the videos too were very special.

[@davidphillips9726]

Billy's a really weird, introspective, smart dude. Great interview. Really great questions, and really honest answers ... great episode!!

[@MatthewStout]

Anxiety is waiting for that jacket to fall off his shoulders.

[@roddydykes7053]

Aperture 4.0 skip ahead, see that it hasn't, come back to the beginning

[@davidcopperfieldslovechild1924]

Aperture 4.0 😂😂😂

[@claycollins8973]

Aperture 4.0 dude! So glad I'm not the only one, almost couldn't watch cause it bugged me so much

[@MatthewStout]

Solid advice Roddy, thx.

[@deeak81]

Great guest, I enjoyed listening to Billy speak his mind :)

[@brookesoldiersunite3325]

All time favorite 90’s band ever. Major respect.

[@jaimisbb]

Always will b a fan of BC....his music..his band SP got me through some very tough times....Ty for that

[@AdelleRamcharan]

Clicked on this faster than the Peterson vid! The part about comebacks was exactly what I needed to hear. Will always ❤ Billy. Thanks for this!

[@BigShaneGillis]

What do you love about him exactly?

[@Cory989]

probably grew up in the 90's with him like most SP fans.

[@mattkeenan6491]

Shut up you dummies why does skin color matter billy is an amazing song writer and woke ass person

[@newportnelson]

Bullman What kind of fucked up logic is that lol? Pretty clear you're still a child who has a lot of mental development to go, so good luck in whatever it is you do in life. You clearly need it LMAO *Nice wrestling/clash of clan videos on your page, you're obviously 12 my bad kid*

[@CorbCorbin]

Always dig it when Joe gets musicians on. And I got to see the Pumpkins in 92 and 2009ish.

[@paperchasinyabitch935]

BILLY "MY VAMPIRE BUDDIES HATE MY WRESTLING BUDDIES" CORGAN

[@andrecoleman1856]

lmao

[@Medieval_Dead]

Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a CAGE MATCH FOR THE NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE!!!!!!!

[@kylemedeiros6907]

Medieval Dead u win

[@JackstandJohnny]

Medieval Dead Hahahahahahahahaha

[@WhogeteR]

w

[@johnhurley7205]

Medieval Dead glorious. Stupendous even.. Well done

[@jonesey251]

animated series: Billy Corgan and Rodman solving crimes with a talking koala bear

[@gloriousmindfuck]

VISIONARY

[@annasloan2349]

I would watch that

[@dubtownman9508]

@@DrRawBalls_TheDummy is Rodman playing the dildo???

[@dubtownman9508]

🤣🤣

[@meatrocket1]

Yea but the talking koala bear is hard to work with, I heard he has a big ego & violent outbursts.