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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@serjarmen]

I hope gun companies come out as pro LGBTQ+

[@IvyLeather13]

I'm hoping for CZ but knowing my luck it'll be Hi-Point or something

[@nathanandsugar5252]

The 2nd amendment is woke then lol

[@mangaas]

They already are, the Nashville shooting already happened. With at least 3 LGBTQ mass shootings, and armed LGBTQ antifa guards outside drag Queen children events. I'd say trans and guns are pretty hand in hand now. 👌

[@__-nd5qi]

@@IvyLeather13 hi point would 😂

[@knixie]

Noooo don't get my hopes up

[@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973]

Calling Bud light a beer is the real outrage

[@Stabsnipers]

Top selling brand in America. Mmm, frothy horse piss.

[@calmyourmind5665]

Exactly, Bud light hasn’t been this popular since the commercial with the frogs.

[@rachelengstrom9120]

Yep.

[@garrettlink9090]

No shit

[@nickb4132]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nathanandsugar5252]

Imagine getting offended more by an ad than the toxic healthcare system or open corruption

[@PhreakPhantom]

Aren't you cute being all high and mighty levitating on moral superiority above us all....

[@Roger-fs5yo]

They are offended by those thing's, you just hate them and want them dead so you won't listen to anything they say💁‍♂️

[@chrisculhane3777]

Yup thats why Republicans target uneducated people and rally against education especially higher education

[@SadisticOtters]

@@PhreakPhantom They're right though. When has the Right ever cared about meaningful shyt besides M&Ms and Bud Light?

[@shahzebk7899]

That's the whole agenda - Get people hooked up to culture wars that the masses start ignoring real issues.

[@charlestownsend9280]

Interesting how quickly those who are anti cancel culture suddenly are pro cancel culture when they don't like something.

[@Support-your-local-team]

And want the biggest of big government action to put things right.

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

Interesting how quickly y’all go from anti-corporation to pro-corporation just because they’re pushing certain agendas and socially engineering the masses

[@ralfsstuff]

That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

[@redaderoua8816]

Conservatives: Hahaha dumb libtards boycotting the wizard game because of jk rowling hahah Also conservatives: I'm never drinking bud light again after they sponsored a trans person on social media

[@peyotegardens]

“Cancel cancel culture by canceling Bud Light” Ro’s bro’s

[@otmanh]

The most surprising for me (as a European) is how in the USA it's considered a flex to admit you drink Light beers !!?? What the hell man, you're not worthy of beer, just start drinking white claws or apple ciders already 🤨

[@Brunoismydog8943]

It’s not a flex at all, it’s just that we’re really fat and we’ve been marketed to believe that light beer won’t make us as fat

[@scottbuckley823]

As an Irish man I'm laughing at wanna be tough guy Americans throwing out their light beer. It's like why do you have light beer to begin with.

[@Roger-fs5yo]

I drink Whiskey and I approve of this man's message👌

[@Joshua-ps5de]

That's the most sensible thing I've heard put of this particular topic.

[@KG9551]

This is NOT an American thing… it’s a weird right wing “proud redneck” thing I don’t quite understand. Must’ve been all the bikini girl commercials in the 90’s that made them think light beer was manly somehow

[@CynicalScorpio]

I think a ton of people are under the misunderstanding that Joe is a conservative, when he's really just wishy washy, and happened to get more conservative viewers because of his covid takes.

[@josephschmitt733]

The Covid maybe but the anti trans stuff 💯. That explains this backlash.

[@knixie]

The healing of joe will commence

[@Support-your-local-team]

He doesn't seem like a bad guy really, just a bit of a moron.

[@lievenyperman9363]

True, If Joe fits anywhere on the political spectrum it would be Left Libertarian. Left on social issues but pro personal freedoms.

[@e0053]

He’s just contrarian like Chappelle and the South Park nerds to be edgy

[@thesun6211]

Funniest and most pathetic part of this is that Joe Rogan didn't even defend the campaign; he just dismissed it as the (right-wing Manufactured) internet drama it is, then the transphobes mobbed and piled on him for explaining things in a reasonable and realistic manner.

[@waltergrace565]

Haha, that's the narrative.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

It's weird that he has so much influence in the world of politics. I listen to maybe 50% of his podcasts and he has pretty mild takes and people run around screaming about him like their hair is on fire. I guess I get it, the people most into politics are the most deranged so if you're not with them 100% on everything then you're a traitor in their eyes.

[@acuerdo3]

Rogan did defend the commercial

[@yvonjoubert5404]

​@electable hahaha 😂😂

[@keksi6844]

So you pagans think that man can be a woman and woman can be a man???? And you mock other people intelligence.

[@gabiausten8774]

Reps: ,,Dems are so triggered by everything!“ Reps: ,,THERE IS A PICTURE OF SOMEONE ON MY BEER!!! LETS CANCEL THEM!!!“

[@sl-te2xh]

There is more to it then that

[@TheDrDecibel]

Given Jeff Brogans rhetoric over the last 4 years, it’s not at all surprising that the audience he’s dragged in would not agree with him on this.

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

The _average person_ does not agree with or enjoy any of this bullshid. Why do you? Why do you enjoy the fact that mega corporations are USING “LGBTQ” people? Hmmm very odd…

[@dahleno2014]

His audience is so diverse I would be far more surprised that they would agree on anything than not.

[@Rumplesti1tskin]

I don’t think his fanbase is as diverse as it once was.

[@morganwartman8507]

Reee someone does say 100% things I believe, therefore he must be an evil right winger reeeee. You people are so ridiculous it’s hilarious

[@martinaustin6230]

​@@Rumplesti1tskin Definitely much more diverse than most other outlets that are political, or at least occasionally political.

[@jessem138]

The most offensive thing about this whole controversy is that anyone drinks that piss water.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Its better than Coors.

[@Joshua-ps5de]

@@dustinsindledecker154 wow. You really set a high bar when it comes to piss water don't ya? Bump the brakes there Spuds MacKenzie...

[@RstGamingReviews]

@@Joshua-ps5de "you like pretty girls? Drink Spud Light".

[@waltergrace565]

The most offensive thing is just calling this a controversy and seeing the same grifters like DEMINEM here just regurgitate and churn out nonsense that absolutely nobody cares about.

[@ASUV3323]

@@waltergrace565 “DEMINEM”…. Really? Lmao.

[@sendit1158]

ITS CAUSE WE ARE TIRED OF THESE PEOPLE THROWING IT IN OUR FACES EVERYDAY

[@AceXINFAMY]

Normal people don’t give a shit dude

[@Alan18012]

Facts

[@plasticbudgie]

The bar i work at i tell everyone that we're having trouble with the Bud stock. The Manager is now thinking about removing the drink from the bar as it isnt selling. 😊 I did my part.

[@chrispartin4549]

How about you let the customer drink what they want. It's your job.

[@plasticbudgie]

@@chrispartin4549 No im forcing my opinions on them just like everybody else.

[@KG9551]

It wasn’t even an ad campaign. She’s a tiktok influencer. They just sent her some commemorative cans to celebrate her birthday or something. It’s incredible the temper tantrum being thrown over this.

[@utkarssrivasta5981]

There was a 15000$ giveaway and Dylan was also given some money as well as a part of the sponsorship. It wasn’t “celebrate her birthday or something”.

[@dam11232]

Its like the same thing g if bud light hooked up Alex Jones with some cans with that chunky face on it. You know the other side would be losing their shit too. They're both more alike than different.

[@begaking4304]

​@@dam11232 lmfao not even remotely close. Opposite politically sure. But that's were that ends. Jones has done serious harm to people

[@yoeyyoey8937]

To celebrate (they bought) their anniversary of “being a girl”

[@TheT3rr0rMask]

It's just the hypocrisy. SJWs screaming was a talking point for conservatives. They scream just as much. Both sides are garbage

[@KeithDCanada]

I had some douchebag reply to my comment on another video about this topic. He said that the whole Bud Light promotion was "The Last Straw". I replied that I found it quite curious that out of all the things that could send them over the edge, it was this small promo can with custom art on it that was gifted, as part of a small promotion, to a trans content creator. It wasn't any big rallies, or protests, or government bill that was the last straw for them.... no It was a company daring to congratulate one single trans person who was celebrating a personal milestone in their life. In effect... they saw a happy trans person being patted on the back by someone, and felt it as their duty to take a collective shit all over them. Most people out here had never heard of Dylan, and the promo, should it have been left alone, would have come and gone with barely any notice. That custom art can of beer, that was gifted to Dylan, would have collected dust on a shelf for years to come. But no.... bigots gotta bigot, and what 'REALLY' sent them frothing at the mouth was seeing a trans person get some validation. HOW DARE THEY!!

[@ScottCleve33]

Your take isn't as good as you think it is. What you're describing is that the right is much more tolerant than the left.

[@kyle9401]

​@@ScottCleve33 ....who's frothing at the mouth because someone who's different than you got any recognition whatsoever again?

[@ScottCleve33]

@@kyle9401 if you don't understand something then you shouldn't be talk about it.

[@kyle9401]

@@ScottCleve33 you're right. I guess no one here has a clue what your point is or how you got to it... *Shrug*

[@soliel5680]

@@ScottCleve33 r/whoosh

[@notaurusexcretus4471]

Joe deserves it he’s been cultivating his fan base for a long time if it blows up in his face so be it

[@ChillAssTurtle]

80% of us out here livin paycheck to paycheck n all these people really losin sleep over people just chillin tryna be left alone The fuck lol

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Just tryna be left alone? By passing legislation and infiltrating schools?

[@davecooper360]

It's to distract us from the fact we're living paycheck to paycheck.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

​@@davecooper360 indubitably

[@waltergrace565]

That's why DEMINEM be grifting hard these days.

[@waltergrace565]

@@davecooper360 Straight up.

[@TheAwkwardGuy]

I wonder if Joe Rogan likes or dislikes the fanbase he got. His opinions can sometimes be all over the place.

[@tylerdink5128]

He truly doesn’t care. He makes more than enough and does his own thing. I’m gonna say he doesn’t consider what the average Joe is thinking

[@MrJayehawk]

A person can have varying opinions.

[@ronthorn3]

As joe would say, “it’s wild!”.

[@BetoTheButcher]

Depends on which strain he's puffing on that day.

[@brockfg]

@@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay having a flexible opinion is definitely a ood thing for hids guest variety

[@TrumpDoesntWipe]

If you piss off those kinds of fans, you're doing the right thing.

[@510tuber]

The funny thing is he also tried so hard to pander to them in the segment also.

[@dann5480]

Trump lives rent free in your mind. Your entire youtube profile is a cope. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[@Alan18012]

What is a woman?

[@iambatman.5894]

Business main priority should be staying in business. Not run it to ground on the basis of virtue signalling.

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

​@@Alan18012 A miserrable pile of Estrogen and Tampons! But enough talk, Have at you!

[@dutchweir2404]

I’m a liberal woman and for me its the fact that Dylan is making a joke out of women and I’m really over it. I’m done with the messed up misogyny of trans women like Dylan telling me to normalize the bulge.

[@Alan18012]

Seems like you don’t agree with liberal ideology 👍🏼

[@nighthawk0077]

The right is neither outraged nor melting down, we simply vote with our wallets.

[@cormoran2303]

They desperately want this to be the rights version of the Hogwarts Legacy boycott. I haven't seen anyone issuing death threats to anyone else for buying a Bud Light, though.

[@GS-kj5pc]

I wonder how Rogan feels about Ron DeSantis now that he's instituted a 6 week abortion ban. I think Rogan is audience captured at this point.

[@marlock6573]

Rogan doesn't give a shit. Just like he doesn't care that DeSantis and his buddy Greg Abbott support harsh penalties for cannabis possession.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Whats wrong with a 6 week term though? What should the actual limit be?

[@EE-gv9wt]

@@yoeyyoey8937 viability. After viability it's birth, not abortion. Nobody should be forced to sustain other life with their own, contrary to their wishes.

[@Kai-tn4yx]

I mean this case clearly shows that he is not audience captured, and Rogan is pro-choice.

[@rh81454]

We don't care. We like DeSantis and Joe.

[@dillonqaphsiel7977]

This is the joe I like

[@mephistophelesgoestowork4368]

To be clear: they never get to call anyone “snowflake” again.

[@AmericaIsADeathCult]

Boycotts and protests should never expect anything. What matters is they try. Such activity raises awareness, changes minds, and gets media attention. Sometimes this snowballs into real pressure leading to reform.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Real pressure is their business doing badly due to boycotts

[@consciouscrypto3090]

Agreed. I'm sure lots of companies are noting that losing $6 billion for a PR stunt gone wrong is not offset by whatever new customers they might get by reaching out to the community of people who like men in womanface.

[@waltergrace565]

@@consciouscrypto3090 Womanface, hahaha. Thank you.

[@AmericaIsADeathCult]

@Conscious Co Trans people aren't men in woman's face or vice versa.

[@AmericaIsADeathCult]

@Walter Grace It seems like you don't like trans people in general, is that right?

[@Inyourbox-kr5uf]

Imagine getting mad at what’s on your beer can. Also imagine drinking bud light anyway

[@MugRuith]

I drink Bud Light all the time. It's pretty good and cheap. A lot better than so many bitter awful IPAs or Corona donkey piss.

[@davidkramer333]

I am a Bengals fan and boycotted them for putting the Browns logo on cans 🤣

[@wildestcowboy2668]

Imagine getting da taste slapped out ya mouth..

[@canaan5337]

Yeah, I haven’t drink Bud Light for decades because of whats in the can, I really don’t care if an influencer got 6 cans with their picture on them, they didn’t put my picture on any cans.

[@tommyanomaly6193]

I used to love Bud Light Lime

[@marcbrown6582]

Joe Rogan getting a stopped clock moment is nice to see

[@chrissantos5580]

Doesn’t matter he got his money

[@MrQuincy27]

Imagine thinking that weirdo is actually a woman. It’s downright disrespectful and disgusting

[@danielgibson8799]

The average IQ of Joe Rogan’s audience is 50, so it makes sense.

[@Epicmango7]

-50

[@Che1seabluesdrogba11]

Cringe

[@Roger-fs5yo]

Well the IQ of people that listen to Kyle or TYT or Sam the groomer Seder is like that of a Goomba in the first Mario movie from back in the early 90's, so they are better off than all of you🤷‍♂️

[@ErickP3768]

You missed the 1. So IQ 150.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Meanwhile, the average IQ of people who think men are women and women are men..

[@tonypalitti9377]

I would be ready to bet dollars for doughnuts that 90% of the people screaming there heads off don't even drink Bud Light. It's just something for them get outraged about.

[@mason4966]

Exactly!

[@andreettienne3231]

6 billion and counting in losses,says differently !

[@tonypalitti9377]

@@andreettienne3231 lol, if your going to pull numbers out of your ass try some that are a little more reasonable.

[@SociallyImpaired]

Bud Light is virtue signaling to one of the smallest percentages of our population while not really giving a fuck about them and a large portion of their consumer base is choosing to no longer consume their products because of this virtue signaling. Pointing this out is essentially a new story that is worthy of our time and shows that we prioritize what matters, but choosing to not consume a product over virtue signaling shows that they don't have the right priorities. Is this not a clear case of a double standard?

[@mr12aT]

Why is no one calling it for what it is: Cancel culture

[@NoJusticeMTG]

Kyle they're not virtue signalling - they're farming right wing outrage for marketing. The real advert are the triggered conservatives - HBomberguy's 'Woke Brands' video does a great explainer

[@MaggaraMarine]

I agree, but I also think it's both. There are people who will think more positively of Bud Light because they show diversity in their ads. But of course they also know that the outrage is going to be free advertisement.

[@decarlocalloway01]

They’re trying to cancel Bud Light LOL

[@nope5657]

Man, it was nice when we were on a Rogan drought on this channel...

[@yirmiyahu1397]

Meh, it is what it is. American freedom, and good ol fashioned honest capitalism to not buy a product just because it upsets you. At the end of the day, let's just be thankful the propaganda is on a beer can (aimed towards adults), - and not on a juice box..

[@DB-fx6ly]

I worked for McDonnell Douglas weapon facility in the 80s that had openly Gay and Trans employees. Later I worked for Boeing when they initiated Domestic Partner benefits for the LGBTQ folks. Why? It is not for an ideology it is because they compete for the most skilled employees and the LGBTQ folks with the skills they need is the criterion they look at. Corporations will push back when necessary to hire and provide the salary and benefits to attract and retain talent. Draconian states and political groups will suffer when they get in the way of the company goals $$$.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

It is for an ideology. They know that wokism kills class politics. And it allows them to present themselves as the good guys while doing nothing good. They'd rather hire more black people than pay more taxes or pay better wages. It's an easy decision.

[@chrisolivo6591]

Even though I disagree with Rogan on this issue, I have no problem with him. This shows he’s independent and why I only watch/listen to podcasts anymore. The left has been calling him a right-winger since he came out against the Vaccines. Now do they think he’s still a MAGA guy after defending the Trans Bud Light ad? Lol. We should applaud Rogan for not towing the line that we see the traditional media and Late Night hosts do with every issue. If everyone agrees on every issue, then they are not being genuine

[@synchronium24]

The right-wing accusations aren't for nothing. Rogan endorsed Ron DeSantis, who is about as right-wing as they come, to the point that even Kyle felt compelled to call him out. Does that mean Rogan is fundamentally right-wing? No, it means he's gullible and inconsistent enough to think Bernie Sanders and Ron DeSantis are basically the same.

[@5353Jumper]

Rogan is a reactionary liberal not a regressive conservative. So they agree with him half the time, and are surprised the other half the time.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@synchronium24 you don’t understand what makes Bernie and Desabtis more similar than they appear

[@yoeyyoey8937]

That’s good thinking, idk what people think if they are just being up front and genuine about it. What about Rogan’s take did you not agree with,

[@synchronium24]

@@yoeyyoey8937 Only a veneer of populism. Their values are almost fully incompatible.

[@dvdglassner]

Kid Rock: "I hate that Bud Light ad so much, I'm going to film a super-viral ad for Bud Light for free." LOL.

[@keithquinn5624]

They lost over 7 billion dollars so far….. the boycott is working and hurting them alot, they’re in damage control

[@ScottCleve33]

Um, you think that was an ad for Bud? How may beers do you think Bud sold because of that video? How much business do you think they lost because of it? Boy I sure wouldn't want you running my PR department.

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

"Libertarian"

[@dvdglassner]

@@ScottCleve33 Yeah, the last thing a PR department wants is free publicity. I didn’t realize they gave PR departments to slow adults. Do they give those to all of the baggers at the grocery store, or just the most “special?”

[@ScottCleve33]

@@dvdglassner Why can't you talk like an adult? You think insulting someone makes your points better but they don't. They make you sound more desperate. As for your point, no, not all publicity is good publicity. AB is not going to pick up more customers than they're losing on this. The numbers already speak for themselves. They offended their base demographic to attempt to branch off into a demographic that has no interest in their product.

[@bitterrootfpv2207]

Gotta stop the indoctrination of the children by getting rid of these trans beer cans.😂

[@gionjasplaza3743]

Hey, my gay daughter likes to drink bud light (bless her heart). She is serving as a Marine right now. I don't see any problem with it.

[@Simply_Simian]

Speaking as a moderate conservative here. Our culture just isn’t mature enough to have these nuanced conversations on a broad scale. Should trans people get fair representation and be included in culture? Absolutely. Anyone who disagrees is likely ignorant, hateful, or indoctrinated, or some combination of all 3. Does a trans person being featured on a Bud Light can really do anything to threaten anyone? No. Should trans women compete in biological women’s sport? Now that’s a good debate. When you see a trans woman winning by margins that are unheard of in the respective division of competition, say swimming, that seems unfair. Should trans women be able to freely and openly use women’s restrooms? I don’t know. Some people will abuse it while the vast majority will use it honestly. Like almost anything humans do. That’s a nuanced and difficult conversation to have. Should trans theory be pushed on children? I don’t know. Personally, I want my kid learning and prioritizing math, language, and reasoning skills. Being kind to everyone if they’re reciprocal in their kindness is just a baseline morality I’m going to instil in my child. Nobody deserves unfair treatment merely for their physical or mental characteristics unless they’re an overt asshole. In that case, I’ll teach my kid to just avoid them if possible and to stand up for themselves if necessary by using dialogue. This Bud Light controversy has definitely exposed the insanity of the rigid Right to me.

[@ceekay4649]

One of the most nuanced takes on here.

[@Simply_Simian]

@@ceekay4649 Well, I’m also Canadian so my idea of Conservative is probably a lot different than American Conservative. Even Conservatives up here are extremely socially liberal by American standards but we have maybe more relatable Conservatism when it comes to economics. The baseline in Canada, regardless of your political team, is that everyone deserves and is afforded equal treatment until they no longer deserve it through it their actions. Anyone who doesn’t behave this way is just… fringe. We don’t really pay them any mind.

[@jimbob3030]

@@ceekay4649 How can you say that when this person just said "Should trans theory be pushed on children?" That is total nonsense.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@Simply_Simian i mean i think most Americans think like you tbh

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@jimbob3030 because they are openly engaging with the question ….since when did that become a problem ?

[@craigyclassics4179]

This isn't about who you do or do not sell your products to, it is about knowing your customer base and not committing commercial suicide which is what Bud did. If you own a shop and 98% of your customers are from a certain background, you don't piss them of and then wonder why they have stopped buying in your shop and you have to close down due to loss of trade. They have now back tracked 180 and dropped and replaced the ad with something to bring their old customer base back. It is amazing how big business not longer want to jump onto the virtue signalling band wagon once they start to lose big money.

[@iaimboti]

No company cares about you, or anything other than money, they will do whatever they think will give them the most money in that moment, that they can get away with.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

"Southern rap rock crooner Kid Rock". He's from Michigan he just LARPs as a Southerner.

[@KendallKelly]

I've been a professional drag queen,worked in gay bars and performed all over the country for years at gay events...Bud Light has ALWAYS partnered and donated with different gay events and groups..always..this is nothing new..People just know about it now..get over it

[@ScottCleve33]

There's a difference between being a drag queen or transvestite and being a transgender.

[@billwilson9602]

It's great that highlighting the comments of literally four people on Twitter now constitutes an entire news story.

[@cosmicbear88-23]

That’s Kyle’s entire channel now. Twitter and polls mean everything to him

[@burstingturtle]

You could probably go on one of Jogan’s podcast clips and find a huge onslaught of people shitting on him. KZbin is their only safe space, after all.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

😂 👍

[@plutotech]

​@@cosmicbear88-23 and yet you're still here..

[@koolarooo]

I wish it was 4 people on Twitter but it’s more like thousands.

[@matthewharris5586]

I love how Kyle reports on absolutely nothing of value most days. It’s so refreshing.

[@thealternative9580]

LMFAO he'd have to come off his SocDem bullshit and embrace leftist politics instead of globalized centrism.

[@Shitstermcdix]

I feel like that's a little unfair, but I can agree that he covers way too much culture war and politicians talking shit about each other but not talking about world events as a whole that much or the environment or actual votes and legislation that happens that effects us. I feel Kyle harps away on the same points without moving to new areas to put his perspective into

[@bodombeastmode]

IDGAF I still love him for it

[@jamesprophet7060]

I also wish he would focus more on real issues even if other people are obsessing over culture war. Still it's good to have someone to help try and de-convert people from these weird culture war rabbit holes.

[@Bickle121]

And I love how he focuses on the rare time rogan says something sensible, absolute simp

[@kermitdraisey1181]

If most Americans don't care then why is Bud Light going Broke?

[@missshroom5512]

Kid Rock needs a dose of manhood. He must have a farewell tour planned🙄

[@se9865]

Not only would I never have heard of Dylan Mulvaney without right wingers whining about her, but I may have never known anything about trans issues at all if it wasn't for them. I've only known one trans person in my life, and I just treat him like a person. Frankly, I might not have even noticed my own transphobia if it wasn't for these right wingers. They are the ones who pushed me into a position as an ally. I would have never even thought about it.

[@danf3516]

100%

[@RiffleVFXportfolio]

Based

[@julesdalli9716]

A lot of my exposure to the transgender topic, has come from the right. For the longest time, they were just lumps of flesh occupying space on our planet. Thanks to Walsh, Shapiro, Crowder, etc, I give more thought to how we should treat them as a society. And with regard to bathrooms, prisons, sports, etc.....I don't particularly side with the right.

[@americanboy79]

You mean him (Dylan)

[@grownman8377]

You a undercover star boy

[@joshholmes9976]

on a side note though…Bud Light is a terrible beer lol

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Its better than Miller Lite.

[@RstGamingReviews]

@@dustinsindledecker154 You must be getting paid to endorse this message, because you're out of your damn mind.

[@pembomassive1394]

doing the tampon advert was a piss take though

[@whoisthispianist194]

If it costs the company $7B it’s a marketing disaster. Just admit it

[@michaelricheson849]

I'm here because Joe Rogan had you on his podcast 😎

[@yourneighborhoodfriendlyme4242]

This confirms that Joe's fan base is indeed right wing overall. He's cultivated this audience ever since COVID started. Good on Joe for being right on a culture war issue, he just doesn't net many W's in favor of reality these days.

[@somethingginterestingg4275]

The problem is everytime someone like him has an opinion, people assume that all their opinions on the subject must be 100% in lockstep with them

[@julesdalli9716]

I think earlier on, Joe's fanbase was more split down the middle. But it's arguably shifted more right since he started speaking against the COVID vaccine.

[@ScottCleve33]

Joe is who Joe is. He speaks his mind. He isn't left and he isn't right. He's independent. If you agree then you agree and if you don't then you disagree. It's easy for someone who isn't politically aligned to appear right wing today because the left has become so radicalized. Joe isn't the only one either. Many people who were once on the moderate left or in the center are finding themselves more aligned with the right or at lest better represented by the right.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@yourneighborhoodfriendlyme4242 Spoken like someone who's totally out of touch.

[@yourneighborhoodfriendlyme4242]

@@ScottCleve33 spoken like someone that can't read unbiased (or hear polls). Hey buddy, how'd that red wave turn out for you? Ok ok, unfair. How'd the special elections go? Oh... Well....

[@mikemitchell7374]

That's why I like Rogan. Doesn't matter to him left or right. If people act like whiney bitches, he calls it for what it is as he sees it. He is not allied with any particular side of the culture wars. To him it is all silly.

[@noshttaken]

Rogan def caters to his base. One politician does one thing, he flips his shit out. Makes it a huge deal, another one does it. Crickets. One side of the political aisle def cares more about some of his standard go to topics.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@noshttaken how to you know if you don’t watch him?

[@mutecryptid]

“OoOoh nOoO there’s a monochromatic picture on my single use can of cheap fake beer”

[@andrewrichards6507]

Im a Rogan fan and i just listened to that episode and i am in no way mad with him 😂😂 this is so unbased. People that love Rogan literally love him because he says whats on his mind, not because of his personal beliefs and opinions

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

People hate when someone goes "yeah this isn't a big deal"

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

I"m not even remotely surprised that he didn't consider the controversy to be a real one. Joe isn't perfect, but I do believe that he does mean well. He just doesn't always come to these interviews with enough information to know if the person he's interviewing is full of shit. Really, it's probably better to view his show as being a recording of his efforts to learn more about various subjects and bringing the rest of us along for the ride.

[@TheRotbringer]

The rights constant need to be enraged by such innocuous issues is so tiresome.

[@mattwolf7698]

It must be so miserable for them to be triggered 24/7, I couldn't imagine living like that.

[@julesdalli9716]

I would love for a right wing commentator, to debate someone like Kyle, Vaush, or whoever else, and explain why they insist on raging over such minor issues.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@julesdalli9716 Do you think that child mutilation is a "minor issue"? Do you think that men in women's locker rooms is a "Minor issue"? Do you think that men beginning to dominate women's sports is a "Minor issue"? This only goes to show that the left never really understands an issue other than from their own point of view. You convince yourself it's something else that you can debate.

[@MrKaelis]

@@julesdalli9716 You might understand if you were a parent watching this insanity destroy your child's mental health and association with reality over the past few years. It is heartbreaking and not something any previous generation has had to contend with. The worst part is when they reject your advice and wisdom because they now believe the crap they've been soaking up from school and social media the past few years over the parents they've known their whole lives. They are being brainwashed and harmed. My son used to be a cheerful kid - now he's withdrawn, isolates himself all the time, is depressed and questions his sexuality. The language he uses now is foreign. The train of thought it shows is one stemming from deep psychological conditioning. Every time I try to ask why he says some of the things he now says, he just shuts down. He can't even begin to answer. This is happening in central Texas. We're not immune to it, even here. It is a very serious problem.

[@julesdalli9716]

@@MrKaelis I feel like you're using anecdotal experiences, as opposed to objective reality. Transgenderism is not the result of brainwashing. There are kids who are legitimately transgender, and who fear social rejection. Especially those being raised by religious fundamentalists.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

When you call that water a beer...

[@tgoodfella]

It's not the right who are freaking out it's people who probably want politics out of consumerism. I mean if you had hardcore rednecks hunting or going off roading screaming listening to country music people would call it racist. People just want thing out of their products they purchase. I don't care about it either way but look at it from their perspective

[@wymans668]

What I took from this story was the fact that the guy who got a 100 million dollar Spotify contract because people paid attention to him is criticizing someone he says wants attention.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Attention for what and at what cost? Rogan is a professional entertainer so ofc he knows how this stuff works but I don’t think he is criticizing it and if he was he would be the one to know. The main difference between Rogan and Mulvaney is that Rogan actually has some talent and hard work to base his career on, while Mulvaney has……(??????)

[@mikeburr114]

200

[@BRLambert4]

​@@yoeyyoey8937 she started putting her own content out on TikTok and earned a following just like anyone else. What's crazy is that people are seeing her content on TikTok bc they chose to. You can block accounts and even specific topics from coming across your page, so people outraged by Dylan Mulvaney are seeking her content out and then being pissed about it.

[@CC-gy7el]

@@yoeyyoey8937 Mulvaney is also a professional entertainer, this is her job. It might not appeal to you or me, but she’s doing something her audience likes

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@BRLambert4 i don’t use tiktok but what I said still stands 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’m ok with Mulvaney being an entertainer but people take them too seriously as if they weren’t

[@fraliexb]

1:30 I love the quote, "they're just ramming this down our throat." But are they? They sent Dylan like a 6 pack of Bud Light and some specialty printed cans with her image on it. Is Bud Light selling these specially image cans to the public? So are they really shoving down your throats?

[@lucky2516]

Dylan's following is underage so they literally tried to sell beer to kids

[@ivantuma7969]

I think the majority of Bud-Light drinkers are women anyway - who don't want to drink extra calories or a beer that's too bitter or expensive. Bud-light fits the bill on all three. I do wish they had chosen a different trans representative who's actually gone through more than just face feminization surgery and a diet of two almonds and a black coffee for breakfast. I don't think Mulvaney is genuinely trans (yet?).

[@abraham115]

I am a independent and I’m getting tired of this woke movement that’s been going on.

[@ScottCleve33]

This is why people like Joe Rogan seem like they're on the right when they're not. It doesn't take a right winger to disagree with or get tired of what the left's been doing. Bill Maher has been doing the same thing. He's still on the left but he's finding less and less he can agree with the democrats about. He just hates the right too much to ever vote for them.

[@shaniceb.5129]

I bet If all alcohol companies did what Bud light did, alcoholism would decrease by a lot. 😂

[@markdouglas1601]

That’s the funniest thing no one is talking about with people saying they are “never going to drink bud light again” Like..there’s no universe where that’s a bad thing.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

This will work about as well as the hogwartz legacy game boycott lol

[@NorfolkCatKickers]

I don't know Hogwartz got some good reviews, some people while having a buglight claim its not the worst thing they've tasted, and thats the best thing I've heard about it.

[@julesdalli9716]

Boycotts are largely a waste of time. If people want to buy a product, they'll buy it. Not much anyone can do to stop them.

[@MrIndyjonescj]

You just don’t get it either dude! If you have to have explained to you, then you are more than likely part of the problem. You go ahead and drink Bud Light.

[@tonybologna9071]

This whole article about joes fans turning on him is only made to make you think all his fans are right wing… Kyle should know better since he’s been in Joe’s podcast multiple times

[@JohnSmith-yn9ju]

I remember when Kylie used to be in the studio that looked like a massage parlor. Man he came a long way

[@claudia320]

😂😂 now he’s married with blonde hair. My boy is growing up 😂❤❤❤

[@loganhall3477]

"Every single religion" Halal Bud Light

[@yoeyyoey8937]

😂

[@zenithzeitgeist7489]

Tell that to the Turks

[@nickjohns1192]

Calling bud light a beer is bullshit but call me far right because im pissed off with the ad is complete bollox.

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

Ok. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I think they are Repyblicans who screwed up with their mocking of trans but who knows. MSM had gotten trans in sports message wrong.

[@nox5282]

The boycott is working so well, cause it’s Budweisers core costumer base that is not buying anymore.

[@gkezele]

honestly if you like a beer (not sure why anyone would have ANY serious attachment to bud light of all things) who gives a shit who they get as a spokesperson. If I was really brand loyal to a cerain product, they could do whatever they want and i wouldnt stop using it if the product stayed the same. its just cancel culture.

[@ScottCleve33]

So nobody? Say your favorite brand of whatever got Putin as a spokesperson then you wouldn't mind? I'd use Hitler as an example but he's dead and I'm trying to suggest an extreme here. So if Putin was sponsoring your favorite product then you be like 👍👍?

[@gkezele]

@@ScottCleve33 I really could give a shit who’s on or who endorses a thing I like, yes. I really don’t know why anyone cares if a trans person or whoever likes or is on their beer can… unless the product has changed, who cares, really? I mean seriously who cares.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@gkezele Well that's interesting. Most people have at lest some sort of moral ground they stand on. At lest some sort of point at which they say I can't support something or someone who is aligned with that. I can't imagine being so brand loyal that my morals don't matter.

[@gkezele]

@@ScottCleve33 I find it odd that just slapping someone’s face on a can, or some blatant corperate marketing or virtue signaling purely and obviously for more money (because corporations don’t act out of morality but out of financial gain) I find it odd that some endorsement would be interpreted as some kind of “value” and as nothing more than just a marketing ploy. If my favorite beer wants to market to gays, or trans people, or fucking serial killers… I really could care less, if I like what the product is why would someone who I do t like appearing on the packaging change anything for me?

[@ScottCleve33]

@@gkezele I get that but who and what they slap on a can tells you a lot about who that company is and what they stand for. And by extension it tells you about the people who buy their products. If the care company I like best uses a serial rapist as a spokesperson then that says a lot about that company and also me for supporting that company. You don't have to engage in bad behavior but if you support that bad behavior then you're just as bad.

[@nyfan9215]

As an atheist, who has dated a trans person, who also doesn't buy into woke ideologies, I have also boycotted Budlight, if you go woke you need to go broke.

[@bmullin96]

The fact that you are an admitted Atheist who has dated a trans person would be considered 'WOKE' by Right Wing Conservatives in of itself.

[@lttv3612]

"Kid friendly" drag shows are the only reason I give af

[@donnellebarfield3964]

Whenever Joe says anything that makes sense he always gets attacked his fan base has way too many crazies

[@itsgingervitis69]

At this point anything he says he gets attacked for. He is pro bernie he gets attacked, he is pro gun rights he gets atracked, he is pro trans he gets attacked, he is pro welfare he gets attacked. No matter what he says he gets attacked by the other side since people act as if the world is only black and white with no gray.

[@marlock6573]

It's the fanbase that he cultivated through COVID denial and pushing right-wing culture war bullshit. Hard to feel sorry for him.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

You mean whenever you hear about Rogan from second and third hand sources, it happens to be something conservatives (which are a small proportion of his audience) don’t like

[@martins458]

​@@yoeyyoey8937 cope

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@martins458 about what?

[@bodombeastmode]

Joe Rogan is so hard to pin down , like wtf

[@The_universal_cynic]

Hmmm.... It's almost like people are complicated creatures and have different opinions on different things and issues. Crazy, right?

[@yoeyyoey8937]

What do you have to “pin him down” for? Can someone pin you down and is that a desirable attribute? Should people be easy to “pin down”?

[@shogreene9215]

Stop putting people in boxes. It's easier to control a population when you put them in compartments

[@singed8853]

@@yoeyyoey8937 people are quick to categorize and engage in tribalism. It’s unfortunate.

[@SRabies]

Thanks Kyle, if you hadn't made this vid I never would have known I turned on Rogan.

[@MinatoNamikaze-ff9dj]

YES!!!!!! The "My good friend Joe" segment!!!! I love these haha.

[@gregquinn7817]

Kyle working hard to find the last shredds of progressive or even decent human tendencies in his buddy Joe. Getting harder and harder and the videos come more and more rarely.

[@Rowsy91]

Rogan is the goat Grow up loser . Or don’t my day is the same regardless lol

[@washingmachine009]

This is truly a new low. It wasn’t even an ad campaign. It was one sponsored Tik Tok video. That was all. It's not like there were billboards, or commercials everywhere, just a tik tok that Bud Lite paid Mulvaney to make.. this is what they are screaming and crying about.

[@atapene]

A paid video trying to promote a product is actually an ad, hate to break it to you

[@julesdalli9716]

Anything that humanizes trans people, is repugnant and offensive. That is anti-trans sentiment in 2023.

[@mikecolorado6073]

​@@atapene Its remarkable how poorly the left understands the culture war. Theyve been abusing people for years and THE ONE time the right deploys their tactics and the left doesnt even know the vocabulary

[@KanyeWestLyricalGenius]

This aged badly. “Never works”. Literally lost billions and haven’t recovered

[@larrypryor9391]

This makes straight people very upset. My 10 year old want to know why the budlight with the girl on it is a problem

[@GringleTV]

Kyle missed an opportunity here to reference the “hogwarts legacy” boycott. Was the perfect example of the opposite scenario that showed what he was trying to say. People were against people boycotting that because they just saw it as annoying and or irritating. Same as the bud light situation here.

[@MaggaraMarine]

There's an important difference between these boycotts, though. People boycotted Hogwarts Legacy because of J.K. Rowling's comments. The mistake was thinking that there's a connection between the game and those comments (and also, some people took it way too far). When it comes to the Bud Light boycott, people only boycotted it because someone who's trans was promoting it. If she hadn't been trans, nobody would have had an issue with it. So, the reason behind the boycott is simply that the person is trans - that's just transphobia. So, while the (in)effectiveness of the boycotts is comparable, the reasons behind the boycotts are not.

[@GringleTV]

@@MaggaraMarine I understand that but his point wasn’t really about the legitimacy of the boycotts but rather that the public’s reaction to them and how they annoy the public. At least that’s how I saw it. And I thought the Hogwarts legacy boycott was a good example of that from their reaction to it

[@timbarry5080]

The problem with Mulvaney is he's so high profile and he supports giving kids puberty blockers if they think they might be trans

[@dftmmwgitd]

Kyle and most of his fans do too 😮

[@timbarry5080]

@@dftmmwgitd I know. Hes incredibly ignorant om this topic

[@MrKaelis]

@@dftmmwgitd ​ @Tim Barry Obviously not many responsible parents amongst them. It's all well and good to pretend like all of this is of no consequence when the only person you ever have to consider or be responsible for is yourself. If you have children and still support this nonsense, then something broke along the way for you. It's not a mystery as to why childless young men and women are generally far more radical in their views than young parents.

[@alldaylong7910]

They are trying to prop up the stock price by getting investors to buy as much as possible. ...This will blow up in their faces later this week. LoL

[@erolegario]

Next time do your homework Kyle and actually listen to the Podcast in no way was Joe supportive

[@peyotegardens]

“Cancel cancel culture by canceling Bud Light” Ro’s Bro’s

[@bluhmer1990]

I hope this becomes an awakening moment for Joe and he realizes the audience he's cultivated.

[@TheJulior1983]

Which audience is that? Kyle and Krystal have been on a few times. I don’t see many other large platforms offering them and other independent media a space to share the pov

[@bluhmer1990]

@@TheJulior1983 Oh don't start with this BS argument. The majority of Rogan's guests are right-wing and right-wing grifters and as such the majority of his audience is right-wing. Having on a few half-assed progressives every once and a while doesn't change that.

[@kjullthedemon]

@@bluhmer1990 And what's wrong with having that kind of audience, you're not really saying anything.

[@bluhmer1990]

@@kjullthedemon You think there's nothing wrong with your audience being mostly culture war obsessed genocide advocates that the right-wing base is made of? That says something about you.

[@jennifernicole106]

🙄

[@anovaprint4713]

I think the big thing Joe and Kyle are missing is how much trash the marketing VP talked about its existing customers Consumers have every right to be bothered about what's happening there

[@attackdoughnut]

The observation that the "normie" is just against the side who screams the loudest is pretty on point I think. That's also why, that whole "Hogwarts Legacy"-boykott didn't work.

[@ryancouture2508]

Joey the broken clock is back… he’s right from time to time… good for Joe.

[@simonelliot3712]

You can always tell the right path forward with this simple litmus test: if the right is enraged about it, it's the correct path.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

No not even close 😂 if BOTH sides are enraged about it then you know it’s the moral and ethical and effective thing to do

[@shogreene9215]

5 billion dollars in losses, and in total damage control is the correct path? Ok you must be an economist

[@simonelliot3712]

@@shogreene9215 Old, poor, white men - the primary drinkers of swill beers - are not a growing demograpic. This was a calculated move to bring in new customers based on where demographics are shifting. Frankly, I think it was a dumb move... the LGBT community doesn't drink the stuff for the same reasons other demographics don't drink it - it's not the branding, it's the horrible taste. However, as Anheuser-Bush is a huge donor to right-wing entities, I'm glad they lost the market value. That part is poetic af.

[@simonelliot3712]

@@yoeyyoey8937 Point taken. I can't disagree.

[@julesdalli9716]

The right have been enraged by Joe Biden being president since he beat Trump back in 2020. Though he has done some positives (withdrawing from Afghanistan, abolishing Patriotic Education, getting rid of the Keystone Pipeline, attempting to forgive student loan debt), he has largely been a lousy president.

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

Libs: Trans surgeries on demand (for kids). Cons: Nope Kulinksi: Man, Cons are so loud and aggressive. Why do you care so much? Cons: leave the kids out of it. Kulinski and Libs: Nope. We care too much. That’s why we’re so loud and annoying and willing to throw the Hippocratic Oath out the window. Cons: 🤨. Oh. I get it now. You’re dishonest. Boycott on. It’s that simple. That, and Mulvaney is precisely THAT cringe. It’s science.

[@JackWard66]

Is there, like, a physical address to send a letter to Kyle? Because I'm kind of tired of writing comments and not having been seen. And I really need to talk to Kyle from after his last KK&F interview.

[@michibmoro]

"That person" is not goofy, rather extremely cringy and insulting ...also the uproar was about the marketing executive who dismissed the beer's current customer base as deplorables...so it was not really about "lets extend our reach to a more diverse people", rather we want to replace our current customers, we might still need them for a little while, but they are so awful and cannot wait to be rid of them

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

It's not surprising that AB executives want to replace a bunch of broke ass rednecks with a higher class of clientele. Yeah they've made a lot of money off of them but much like Trump and all the other GOP people at the top they can't stand the grassroots people that support them.

[@TheDanhewitt]

well yeah, they have been loosing money for a while now.

[@MrKaelis]

She literally called their consumer base "out of touch." Exactly WT effin' F?!

[@TheDanhewitt]

@@MrKaelis they defently are out of touch

[@Raistlin7070]

You cannot look at the Bud Light issue in a vacuum. There's a lot going on in terms of woke culture from cancelling to corruption of the school system to athletics to debates on child sexuality... this isnt JUST about some goofy Tik Toker

[@HarryJohnson69]

Thank you!!! As a long time Kyle fan now, I really want to talk to him about this. It doesn’t make you a crazy right winger to notice how out of fucking control this stuff is

[@Ryan-093]

@@HarryJohnson69 What is all this "stuff" that you speak of?

[@HarryJohnson69]

@@Ryan-093 trans people stepping on the rights of others. We could talk about a wide variety of issues, but a good example that OP mentioned is def women’s sports

[@somethingginterestingg4275]

Canceling is not a woke thing. As you can see, the right wingers are doing it right now to joe. Athletics, sure. If the 10 trans people in athletics are a big deal to you, im all for it. Just seems like a pretty small issue.

[@Raistlin7070]

@@somethingginterestingg4275 So cancelling in the modern era is a very specific act that is based on the concept that words can be equivalent to violence and the speaker needs to be silenced.. it is not about open debate or disagreement, its about the aim to deplatform and disappear people who have a different ideology. This is unique to woke culture.. on the right the most you can say is there are times they are subject to group think and get triggered by for example kneeling or anti-war movements etc but the right is much better about allowing dissident speech

[@angeloiannitelli6589]

Everyone knows we are supposed to be sold our beer from quasi talking frogs as god intended.

[@foxibot]

ALL cooperations try to get a good rating by the minority organizations. They blew this up while this is what all companies do.

[@omnisomnia]

I'm pretty anti-woke but I found Rogan's take very reasonable. I think the woke agenda is as toxic as it gets but I'm not gonna counter it by being toxic myself.

[@Kira-zm7vy]

Ok. But what is this agenda? What is it to be woke?

[@omnisomnia]

@@Kira-zm7vy dude let’s not pretend it’s 2020, today you’re either in the woke cult trying lame lines like ‘Whut agenda’ or you’re still sane. It’s not too late, come back to us, we have tons of diversity too over here plenty of colors and sexual orientations, we just don’t want to trans the kids.

[@TimeLord675]

You already are toxic, dude. You're out here saying we shouldn't be against racism or homophobia. That's some toxic shit.

[@Alan18012]

@@Kira-zm7vybasically shove their ideology down people’s throat and if you disagree with them, all hell breaks loose