Joe Rogan | Robots and Deepfakes w/Lex Fridman

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1292 w/Lex Fridman:
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[@THEMANSTER122]

“Don’t want to discriminate against AI” this dude is already hedging his bets for the robot uprising

[@mike-gt8yo]

lmao

[@RockDavid]

Can't wait for the AI SJW to come about

[@noahway13]

He said All first, or Al. It annoys me. Font always makes AI Look like Al. Large I (sounds like eye) is same as lower case L. I can't even explain it because they both look the same. Aye eye looks like aye EL.

[@NickenChuggetsX]

Robot Lives Matter

[@matthewhorizon6050]

@@RockDavid don't even talk about that.

[@sergeantpepperish]

Joe has a unique talent for rambling off topic with insane analogies

[@iorilamia]

sergeantpepperish its a technique used to make stoners think you’re smart

[@DGRIFF]

@@iorilamia It's the most effective way to communicate an idea to someone who may not understand.

[@isrraelkumiko8214]

Insane analogies and conspiracies.

[@lane8a]

example. of an analogy that hurt your feelings.

[@dantechills9985]

Probably because the other topic was boring, my honest opinion.

[@koraihoshiumi3137]

The scary thing is Sasha Baron Cohen can trick a guy to run at him butt first. If he can do that, AI can easily trick people

[@krissieg7862]

J Arsenault 😂 exactly

[@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard]

Dude, he tricked a guy into chomping on a dildo.

[@ohnonotjo]

I scrolled down far enough, you win 😂

[@HigherPlanes]

Yea if AI was real.

[@jp.dlamini]

Too funny

[@xXBlackDranzerXx]

Is Alex from M.I.T or M.I.B? That suit is fresh to death.

[@MastaSmack]

He's from the future...a time travel experiment happened a long time ago somewhere in the future...and they're trying to fix it.

[@tianzuwu2091]

Should have gone with a cut away collar

[@wrestlingjon27]

No reason he can’t be both

[@wesleyhempoli5548]

Well idiot its called M.I.T. not M.I.T samething for M.I.B.

[@mccall123123]

@@wesleyhempoli5548 well idiot it's the internet and no one actually gives a fuck

[@bliztix2]

Joe: “So let me ask you, what if AI got ahold of DMT....so many possibilities...mind blowing...”

[@3SIXTYPROD]

bliztix 100% young James kindly look that up

[@theangrycheeto]

@@3SIXTYPROD Well, it's entirely possible

[@andrewgarratt1503]

lol

[@whatNtarnation90]

So bizarre

[@casitarey1828]

bliztix bahahahhaha spot tf on

[@MG-jy5qx]

Can you imagine how much knowledge Joe has gotten from interviewing all these interesting people practically everyday? What a cool job this man has.

[@MastaSmack]

Yeah, it's almost like you could just go out into the world and talk to people...and you wouldn't even have to charge if you went to the right places.

[@humperdinckfangboner9749]

"algorithm manipulation of people", sounds a lot like the way I interact with youtube. Or I should say the way youtube collaborates with me to bring me content that I desire, even if I don't realize that I want it. I find myself following the 'recommended video' rabbit hole more and more, and I know I'm not the only one because I'll often see a whole bunch of comments either thanking youtube or asking why "it" brought them here. I'm less likely to 'seek' things as much as things are "served" to me. It feels sometimes like I'm riding an escalator built out of conscious and unconscious human behavior. It's not a good feeling, I feel more mentally lazy. Just like a personal trainer would never recommend taking an escalator I don't think a person who values thought would recommend you spend to long with a system that promotes this mindlessness. It's easy to think of cataclysms but I worry about the real negative brain changes that could come from living too long on an algorithmic framework, from google helping with my spelling to youtube having better taste in music than i do, to facebook giving me news that it thinks is 'right' for me, it all takes reasoning away and helps make me less autonomous.

[@off6848]

Humperdinck Fangboner raw comment if you’re an AI I’ll be pissed

[@sirduggins]

Yeah. As soon as AI starts generating the clickbait titles/thumbnails there'll be no hope. Those already act on human psychology to pretty much force people to click on things. They know just what to do to create intrigue or interest with nothing but a tiny picture. If AI designed those, they would even more effective. There would never be a time where a video didn't catch your eye while scrolling down recommended or sitting on the home page. It's like a lazer point and a cat.

[@rtyui136]

@@sirduggins They already can, just most algorithmic content looks like shit and is for kids who can barely talk yet. See "Finger Family" videos. It's still pretty worrying though.

[@yoMXTT]

You worded this perfectly. And that's what I've been noticing is going on with me. And to see somebody else think exactly what i think to justify I'm not going nuts is amazing. Stay awaken my friend 🖤

[@jumpingeezus5080]

Change your behaviour.

[@XWAKEupNOWX]

How meta would this be if this was fake?

[@ParadigmRabbit]

And more so if you, questioning this, were an AI yourself.

[@MrGrimlocksmash]

Clears throat and imitates William Murderface “ROBOT!”

[@ColtNomad]

"Imagine if chimpanzees on DMT designed the AI... it would be mind blowing. "

[@JoshuaSteensland]

The irony is that's exactly what's happening

[@noblemile]

Jamie pull that shit up

[@dantron7073]

Joe "Squid-Like Propulsion Systems" Rogan

[@rks0814]

It would be nice if he allows Lex actually talk.

[@simonanderson2793]

Go watch lex

[@aleenn]

He has his own podcast. Check it out.

[@wyldeman7]

Like dude didn't go off the rails about scent of a woman.

[@whocares8735]

Riddy KS why would anyone want to listen to this fucking douche bag talk?

[@AncientMysteriesAndInnovations]

I love when this guy is on

[@andynixon2820]

Last night a large naked man with an Austrian accent asked me for my motorcycle and boots . Do you think this was something to be worried about ? .

[@apokatastasian2831]

Andy Nixon but did he take the aviators?

[@nicksousa8]

Andy Nixon nice lol

[@jessewilson4050]

Nice night for a walk..

[@codyt8892]

I read that as Australian and was confused as hell for a minute

[@martyconsidine8628]

If u find the girl from the new one hit me up. It's a matter of um, great importance.

[@nlegall33]

Watching the development of robot technology feels like those quiet moments in horror movies right before they scare the fuck outta you.

[@Gonzo4Ever]

1:46 Eddie Bravo speaks out of Joe's mouth

[@vikingbrowski3718]

lmao

[@Gonzo4Ever]

"Look into it" "it's so on another level"

[@sometimesoonfan]

What app are they using to do the face swap?

[@MrEvilWasp]

Fridman scares me because he for sure knows way more than he is letting on. When Joe asked him questions he mostly avoided them and instead asked a question right back or provided him with a scenario so as to change the subject and distract him. I really think he came on the show to do research rather than just chat. His questions were all about emotion such as "How would you feel about that". Artificial intelligence wants to try and understand what real emotions are because it can't feel it. Peace

[@lukejochem]

Follow the white rabbit... To the machines emotions are just lines of code and chemical precursors... How do you program an emotion?

[@robertfan332]

Emotions are just another sensor used to tell us about our surroundings and our current inner state. Its an endless river passing through us giving information. But it only exists out of necessity. Ai won't need it. It'll have a different type of sensor to serve a different purpose. What interests me though is that while humans are still primitive...love between individuals and total strangers, humor, silliness, amusement, will these things be lost as we become more advanced through AI dependence?

[@Docweed13]

I think this is great and well directed. I feel he is hitting it on the head. Reduction of internet traffic to allow communication to revert back to verbal.

[@cyborgoftheyear]

"It looks like what I'd look if I was fat". But also, it shows how Joe would look with a beautiful head of real naturally grown absolutely no plugs hair.

[@MattHipster]

Hand in front of camera @ 11:36 ive watched alot of these and havent seen that before hah

[@TheBiscuitFactory]

Matt Saari haha yeah that threw me off.

[@wesleyhempoli5548]

Actually it was 11:38 jack-nut

[@economicalovereem5833]

I've talked about RoganAI for some years now. We haven't been seeing the actual Joe Rogan, at least for the last 100 episodes. Do people really think someone has time to broadcast UFC, standup in LA almost every night, 2 podcasts a day, Alpha Brain and Onnit, hunt AND cook elk meat? But this is where it gets weird folks; some really dangerous and powerful people might trick Jamie and actually get a hold of the RoganAI. This might cause some serious political and social problems not only in USA, but the world. I've looked into it.

[@LacrosseColors]

"something to think about..."

[@economicalovereem5833]

@@olezahl6797 You haven't looked into it.

[@iSmeeaa]

This comment made my day lol

[@martyconsidine8628]

"entirely possible"

[@Makingnewnamesisdumb]

Just imagine if that tesla and that nissan both existed in the real world, we could see them physically race and see which one is better. If only...

[@ModeratelyAmused]

A simulated race based on two cars that exist. Let's make a video of it. This is what happens when you are constantly stoned and play video games a lot. The worlds of simulation and real life start to blend together.

[@VK-jd6rw]

Roadster gonna be out in 2020

[@kevdeath97]

Imagine not knowing one of the cars doesn’t ‘exist’ yet

[@gunsepsi2852]

@@ModeratelyAmused If you were educated at all you would know that a lot of shit car manufacturers do is test shit on simulated software and then do it in real life and 99.9% it leads to the same result.

[@ModeratelyAmused]

@@gunsepsi2852 "99.9% it leads to the same result" 73% of statistics on the internet are made up and the other 34% are the result of bad math.

[@TheAndyread]

It’s difficult to think about the question . . . “should we release it, because somebody will anyway?” It’s almost like ‘quick, push the button for the nukes, just to make sure no one else does!’ It’s a scary world, and getting scarier every day!!

[@thespacecoder8942]

I have been working with the GPT-2 project for the last few days. My experience with OpenAI products is very limited but it is very impressive what this AI is able to do (even with the smallest dataset)

[@minglee6162]

"Stop taking anything online seriously" I was already there the moment I got internet for the first time.

[@SWAGKINGSBD]

I need open AI to write my papers lol 😂

[@CornyBum]

when Lex Fridman was describing the ultimate plagiarizer, I was thinking, "...behold, the coded college student D: "

[@jordanemede]

Happens all the time already. Dig around.

[@MysteriousMartin]

Long duk dong how do i find one in a foreign language

[@yazzremingtonthethird5688]

How do you get technology like this it would help out so mich on my homework

[@MrGrimlocksmash]

PTSD flashbacks to metal gear solid 2’s raiden and colonel’s convo....

[@thebluriam]

Read/Listen to the "Singularity" series by William Hertling if you're really fascinated by conversations like this. Only 4 books and the first is called "Avogadro Corp". They're phenomenal.

[@90sled]

What's the hand that swiped across the screen 3/4 of the way

[@MrKudmar]

Electric motors have a MASSIVE amount of tourque at low revs compared to gas engines. Im not aware of teslas specs so correct me if im wrong, but i doubt it needs a transmission. Or if it does, probably only has 2 gears.

[@jordanclymer995]

I’m not googling it either, but yes, Tesla’s have transmissions and likely more than 2 gears. The purpose of a transmission is to make the motor more efficient to get more out of it. You could relate it to leverage. It would be silly and wasteful not to have a transmission.

[@ZachGood]

The main thing that'll prevent large numbers of deepfakes is the abundance of video capture. For example, a deepfake at a political rally wouldn't matter because there would be 100 other people recording the same moment (or, put better, there would be no other videos of the moment that was deepfaked). On the other hand, the potential trouble spot is deepfakes made for more intimate situations - like when a deepfake is made to depict a politician in a closed-door meeting talking about how he wants to kill all children, or something like that. There'd be no other video that would potentially dispute it.

[@mattmerola6368]

Zach Good it goes the other way as well. Let’s say something incriminating is recorded and is real. What’s to stop a fake from discrediting it?

[@ZachGood]

@@mattmerola6368 That's true. There are two possible bad outcomes: 1) Something doesn't occur, but a deepfake convinces people to believe it did occur; 2) Something does occur, but a deepfake convinces people to believe it didn't occur (due to the assumption that it was a deepfake) The only hope is that the same kind of technological progress that creates the possibility of deepfakes also creates the possibility of recognizing deepfakes.

[@lwwells]

Boston dynamics to Tesla roadster in 1.9 seconds

[@the_primal_instinct]

Always liked the hypocrisy of OpenAI not being open at all.

[@AvatarOfGames]

And people think I'm dumb for getting mad when news shows quote random twitter users.

[@AvantNoir]

You could finish a Master's thesis with that AI in one day. I say they release it

[@MrScottSenior]

Michael Buble is a multi talented guy!

[@thedeliciousbun122]

You're amazing my guy

[@johnnycto7576]

Teslas basically don't need an engine, so they can be light and go very fast, but not very far.

[@stefanf922]

Any rational human already doesn't take anything on the internet seriously.

[@TheonlyGizzy]

Joe was so contentious this episode

[@anythingbutmyrealname]

Lets make that car simulation fuckin happen!

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

The use of Fuzzy Logic is an implementation of AI, like in the CGI animated effects you see in The LORD OF THE RINGS movie. The first machine to pass the TURING TEST was in 1965 with the ELIZA computer-program

[@artpinsof5836]

what's up with the extreme close-up of his hand at 11:37? Having trouble visualizing how Lex' hand is so close to the camera...

[@buckyfromflushing2032]

If this was around when I was in college I never would’ve had to write a paper.

[@mathias4891]

Id like to preorder my unicorn horn now

[@username4441]

*Joe "how obvious is it that I own tesla stock" Rogan*

[@df5826]

Does anyone else remember back in the late 90's that a few students from MIT developed the technology to sample audio and video from a person and essentially create full video and audio clips? It was an article I remember from Slashdot.org and it was amazing but it was buried or something because I can't find any mention of it anywhere. Its like we developed the tech then the government took it over to keep it quiet.

[@nickmcdonald2808]

This is the first JRE episode that I've been waiting for Andy Dick to bust through with Cheetos

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

I wonder if this was before or after the chimp hockey team.

[@jamends1220]

I can't wait to get my squid propulsion system implanted.

[@DankStunt]

Allways getting casino ads on Rogans videos

[@deangulberry1876]

Hello my fellow non-robotic humanoids. How do you do?

[@penjamin5037]

Dean Gulberry not falling for this one again

[@jimpickens2577]

Shit

[@CornyBum]

unless you're gonna start finishing my KZbin comments to get me teh massive likes, we're not talking

[@tucowept]

"It doesn't feel pain or pity"

[@louiscypher7090]

This tech could convict people of crimes they didn't commit.

[@ChimchangaGod]

On the bright side, I will get my waifu for at least a couple years before the robot revolution.

[@iamisobe]

Tesla been smoking cars there are plenty of actual drag races with a dude who gutted his tesla

[@darealb1163]

IAM ISOBE exactly what I was thinking. Knew I had seen the real life version

[@Poseidon650]

I dust most Teslas and get to make noise while doing it 😊

[@MasterMalrubius]

@@Poseidon650 It's not noise. It's a symphony of cacophony.

[@lexxb6386]

How can AI not think humans are redundant we act based on feeling not best outcome. We're screwed.

[@a97orb]

I'm watching this now. Just to mention, if a GTR uses its launch controll the Tesla is spanked real hard. You can find videos where people actually use launch controll and smoke the Tesla of the Line!

[@matthewhorizon6050]

@15:07 AI gave a little wink.

[@oicub2]

11:20 notice how he's careful not to offend artificial intelligence. Probably a safer bet, just in case ;)

[@uncleterry1703]

I sense a new Trump-catchfrase comming: - "Deep fake News!"

[@vizlidin]

I think deep fake is going to get to the point where normal people take movies and swap out characters who were cast wrong with their higher quality actors. Imagine if they took young Sean Connery and put him in one of the recent 007 movies. Or if they remade the old Harry Potter movies to be extended cut to follow the books perfectly!

[@satanandneptuneunite]

I can’t wait to use this AI to cheat on my school essays...

[@paulgaither]

You wouldn't have to with that fuckin' nerolink tech. Just download the data into your head. Studying comes down to how lazy/hard working you are. If you could just download information, then it takes out the lazy factor and we can all just know stuff without needing to spend all the time/work it used to take.

[@benwilson3626]

@15:10 on .5 speed = DRUNK AF Joe Rogan! try that out

[@canig]

play any video at .5 speed and it sounds like the person is drunk...

[@fruitypeebils]

6:13 "artificial artelligence"

[@pnutdraws]

Jaime this was the perfect time to pull up the deep fake video of Joe and Brendan schaub as the little rascals , We need joe to react to it !

[@pre-packaged_9692]

Remember when we thought we were on the edge of having completely convincing 3D models of people.....in the 90's

[@willfullaltruist6223]

Use it for gaming

[@RyanGuerrero135]

I think this sets a dangerous precedent for denial. If a damming video of a celebrity is released, they can say it’s a deep fake and that it didn’t happen. Everything will becomes so cloudy that the truth will be difficult to find

[@ARASHKAGE]

The all new Roe Jogan experience

[@paulclark5808]

When they say it's in future it's already here.

[@lukejochem]

It's episodes like this...

[@WrightlyDivided]

Time stamp of blood shed beautiful quote ?

[@dcoleman4444]

I never hear during these types of discussions about future AI bots, the fact that they won't FEEL any of these experiences. The robots will have no desire to exist, they have no soul to experience what they are living and doing. The thing that makes humans, humans, is their soul. You can replicate intelligence but can you replicate consciousness? It will have to take some human somewhere, to program into the bot, the first "offensive" thought program against humans for it to take off to Robot domination. And yet, no one will regulate this stuff. It's one of the biggest issues, if not THE biggest issue facing our world today.

[@rogersyversen3633]

Question is, will authority snap back into place? Is the century of the self -- the development of individualization -- over?

[@luciano.rim1]

We used to think that we would draw a line, but we thought the same about the nuclear bomb....

[@gloriannpeddicord9317]

this guy is amazing.

[@unholsteredmedia2084]

When did Tyler Durden get on Joe Rogan?

[@kingofbratz3626]

Joe Rogan really is that burn out friend that everyone one of us has... that rambles on like he knows everything but is fortunately very entertaining.

[@adamkendall997]

Why would you simulate a race between two cars that actually exist?

[@shoes559]

I think humans as a race need to take a step back from the internet and ask what should we be doing with it.

[@TheDilden]

15:05 when the dmt kicks in

[@PopExpo]

Funny thing is, electric motors is nothing new. Electric motors were always more efficient than internal combustion engines and have nearly instant torque. It's just that now electric vehicles are getting popular.

[@LukeCunningham]

Search Microsoft HoloLens Japanese keynote its wild.

[@mochamommyATX]

I already can see this happening. So many people walking around with false ideologies

[@watchman9198]

Joe bring Abdu Murray on the show!!

[@cleverfellow8198]

Algorithms controlling neurological functions through forced suppression, neuro modulation, Have Dr. Robert Duncan on here from Dartmouth on the future of AI, DARPA, Synthetic Telepathy.

[@TheSwordfish009]

All this shit sounds like the plot of Metal Gear Solid 4.... Damn you PATRIOTS. LA LEH LEE LO!

[@jordanemede]

This is already used daily on what most people call television.

[@MightyMurf]

.....so basically, Max Headroom is going to destroy us. Damn.

[@rein_tech]

Business idea: Create a program that journalists can authenticate themselves as human. eg: There is some sort of icon that proofs on article online that is has been written by a human.

[@scotch_onrocks1876]

The problem is ai doesn't give a shit, if it is free enough to choose to care then it won't

[@melk100]

6:00 I never actually thought Joe was this ...... human

[@CoDplusMinecraft]

If you complied every jr podcast you probably could make a voice emulator of joe so easy

[@elbioemiliopenaalmonte3758]

Their talk is merely just "Yellow Talk" but the guest face is the weird thing..And i know why...But men if that was automated by an AI optimization I AM OFFICIALLY ...FUCKING IMPRESSED.

[@Crazibeast]

I feel like even if AI wasn’t trying to harm the human race on purpose the lack of compassion could cause the AI to make decisions that are similar to the concept thanos used in Infinity War, but not random. It’ll most likely try to form some sort of artificial selection, choosing ideal traits. The weak will not survive, and only the strongest will be able to pass along their genes.

[@nineyfair6843]

Lex - “ we are plagiarized humans” Joe rogan- “we also have Amnesia”

[@drupiROM]

What i don't get, is why games AI is stagnating. We had good AI as far back as '99 with Half Life and 2005 with FEAR. These days we should have, near human player AI levels in single player and co-op games.

[@MrSamuel539]

Because people competent enough to programme AI have better callings other than catering to virgins ?

[@off6848]

MrSamuel539 games are mostly about competition and adventure which is something men who get laid also enjoy throughout time shouldn’t have to say it but hey I’m an AI

[@nolanburchett7972]

Joe "Is there some form of DMT for AI? Can we upload DMT to AI?"