Joe Rogan talks to Sargon of Akkad about Anita Sarkeesian & VidCon

Joe Rogan talks to Sargon of Akkad about his run-in with Anita Sarkeesian at Vidcon.
Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #979.

[@thekillerphython]

Who is here after Anita destroyed TLOU2

[@gerrardshaw1889]

Me

[@jordandesmond5742]

stop dude its still fresh

[@martinvelez858]

game isnt even out yet

[@isaachodson892]

I've gone on a binge , haven't heard her name since 2016

[@stacywilliams3518]

Ey man same

[@aguyinavan6087]

The first video I saw of Anita's was about Christmas music. When she pointed out that Michael Buble singing "ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS" was creepy and stalkerish and Mariah singing it was reinforcing women's dependency on men, the type of Anita's thinking became enemy number 1. If you can turn a Christmas love song into women's oppression with completely opposite conclusions, using the exact same word sang by opposite sexes, you can and will turn EVERYTHING into sexism. In fact, that is exactly what she has done. EVERYTHING IS SEXIST, EVERYTHING IS RACIST, EVERYTHING IS HOMOPHOBIC. AND YOU HAVE TO POINT IT ALL OUT. Anita, you have a mental disorder called BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER, which is characterized by a constant sense of victimization. Please seek help.

[@commiezombie2477]

"She's attractive" How high was Sargon.

[@ScorpiXinChao]

I loved the interaction between these two. Sargon goes a milion miles per hour, puting out the distilled version of what he spent the last five+ years presenting, debating and exploring. Joe`s job is to slam the breaks every now and then to, in old west talk, ‘’keep him honest’’, and to make sure everyone is cauth up.

[@Zannooda]

To see what a despicable creature Anita really is, watch boogie2988's video about his interaction with her on Vidcon (both shared "cyber-bulling" panel) - 3qEwRZ0PziA. You can see his last statement on that panel (one that turned Anita into poison-spitting harpy) at 13:50 in Keysi Estrada's video - 2tgfqAxP2GU. I recommend you to watch the 2nd video first to understand the context.

[@thetsar7384]

Zannooda I just unsubbed a few minutes ago from boogie for that bs.

[@Zannooda]

I think you can't blame Boogie for this... He's a genuinely kind person with real health issues that genuinely tries to be positive to everyone - that's just a man he is... He built his entire platform around the idea of being as king and positive as possible to each other regardless of one's background or ideological persuasion, and he truly believes in this idea. He doesn't deserve any hate, let alone that mind-boggling treatment from that evil worthless bitch... You better be angry at her instead of him...

[@latricoteuse6282]

Zannooda What's the issue here? They had a misunderstanding and solved it by sharing their point of views and respecting each other's different opinions and then moved on with their lives. You guys love to make storms on teacups.

[@britbloc123]

+La Tricoteuse Have you actually watched Boogie's vid on this issue? Because respecting each other's opinions was not how it went down. Well, from Anita anyway.

[@lordmcuffermuffin7159]

Anita said that boogie wasnt bullied because he was a white cis male, she straight up said that him being fat was the main reason.

[@skred6792]

Joe "name drop R.E. Howard" Rogan.

[@camau79]

sargon got owned by thunderfoot

[@eightnine3341]

this is such a telling intweview, usually joe rogan is super accepting and laid back with his guests, but even he can't help but stop and think and call sargon on his utter nonsense, sargon's arguments have just so little substance, it requires a lot of effort not to poke holes in them

[@sinekonata]

I was thinking the same thing, I suspected he knew who Sargon is and was trolling him but it doesn't seem so. Joe looks like he'd be glad to learn the other side of the story...

[@spenser9908]

Which arguments. let's see you poke holes in them.

[@Mr_Meowingtons]

and now Anita Sarkeesian is attacking Joe Rogan.....

[@fredericksinclair]

@Tyler Mod Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[@fredericksinclair]

@Tyler Mod Hahahahahha

[@RoughNek72]

Ohh this is gonna be good! Hahaha

[@fredericksinclair]

@Tyler Mod Imagine imaginers

[@Updated8SecondsAgo]

Tyler Mod you’re a disgusting simp 😂 get some standards she looks like a bridge troll

[@greatswagga3278]

She is going after Joe Rogan now. She says he is dangerous and shouldn't be aloud on youtube.

[@theimaginist3310]

She's struggling to fight irrelevance. Looks like she's getting less and less views on her videos.

[@evanabbott2737]

Ohhh bad move, Anita...! Joe should have her on, and dismantle her arguments in front of millions of people.🤔👍

[@marcusdoyle3918]

FUCK SAKE

[@jaysherriff3086]

This bitch is the cancer of feminism. Fuck off. When will they realise they have already took over in the states anyway... Ruining hollywood over the last year alone.... Lets see what happens next year theyre already destroying movies and gaming.

[@jackskellingtonsora]

Can't disagree. When someone has no principles whatsoever and only ever agrees with the last person who spoke, that's dangerous when he has the largest podcast in the world.

[@DieMasterMonkey]

"Aggressive SJW have infiltrated positions of authority in social media!" Joe: "I'm skeptical." "Ancients used alien technology to cut stone!" Joe: "Sounds legit."

[@Pwntard]

Stoners enjoy a good story mang...

[@SquareNoggin]

Die, Master Monkey I think he's gotten better since this vid but the stuff he's challenging Sargon here is just ignorant. Anita doesn't make prejudicial statements against all men? 'They' isn't a fair way to describe the feminist cabal (even though they are completely lockstep in everything they believe and obviously coordinate hit pieces?)... Joe obviously didn't know anything about the situation but like much of the media refuses to believe what's right in front of him... When he said he doesn't think Anita makes sweeping generalizations about all men that was just too much. She's very open and very clear about that point, as are most feminists.

[@p.d.l7023]

Of course he would be skeptical.

[@TheRedHaze3]

Harry Flashman I think he's just playing Devil's Advocate, which is always a good way to feed the conversation, especially as an interviewer.

[@Hinatachan360]

The92Waffles Anita is the one who said everything is sexist, racist, and homophobic and you have to point it all out. And yes, she has made sweeping generalizations about men all the time.

[@iainansell5930]

so i can ban my wife from watching magic mike as it objectifies men?

[@daltonallen2455]

Yes

[@johnmccaleb1168]

Ha good luck with that

[@bellamorda9582]

Sure, if you want her to kick your butt! Anita is trash. Why is anyone paying attention to her?

[@mattcrouch9348]

That depends. Do you feel as though you have the right to control what your wife watches?

[@jamesharrison2763]

Yes you can

[@rayisawesoem]

Sargon sounds like he is talking about his ex-wife lol

[@oskarkuelz2706]

Controversial Topics Or she would have to pay him. Whoever earns more. See? Feminism fights for everybody.

[@lucasparham5068]

Sargon hatefaps to AS every night before his evening soy sauce and tofu.

[@claytonreid996]

thats a jokes line but i still agree with Sargon

[@abouttimeforarevolution241]

He really does. He’s got something more than just disliking her opinions and persona. It’s very overexaggerated

[@Mr_Makina]

@@abouttimeforarevolution241 no, he's just being British.

[@jeremy-thomas7265]

Who’s here because of last of us 2 (tear)

[@marcusdoyle3918]

.... I am..... I'm lost for words

[@luqi5]

Can you explain what happened ? Im lost actually lol this is my first time learning about this person and how is she tied to TLOU 2? Thanks in advance.

[@MotoTrooper]

Me too

[@jeremy-thomas7265]

purepit4ever1200 :(

[@scottessery100]

but wouldnt anita like last of us 2?

[@zoppie]

To me, this Anita vs. Sargon incident was nowhere near as much fun as Alex Jones vs. Cenk Uygur.

[@omglabel]

so what , they should have reacted out of emotions and start fighting... do you watch WWE shit or something

[@zoppie]

No. You do realize that shit is fake, don't you?

[@sirbader1]

yeah, arguments between men v woman are usually quite different from male v male arguments.

[@HarryBalzak]

Jones/Uygur incident was almost certainly staged for ratings. Someone from TYT in a suit with a badge invited Jones to their set and lead him all the way there. There is footage of it.

[@chugg159]

You're pretty right. Alex Jones v. Cenk Uygur is legendary because it's two of the biggest political fatass nutjobs going at it in real life. I cannot illustrate enough how funny it was that they were fat, and very opposite. It's beautiful.

[@sasj84]

She has blocked comments on all her videos. She can't take any critisism.

[@dalelamoureux702]

But they did care enough, and they did send death threats, people stalked the outside of her house, sent pictures of it, and they did it to many other women during that "gamergate" movement

[@DomoBuddhaK]

Naught Dog and Sony, Cant take any criticism anymore too.

[@Sycokay]

@footferry1589 Imagine you expose yourself on the internet with any controverse opinion, receive some death threats like anybody else who does this, and take this as an excuse for no longer dealing with any form of criticism and as an opportunity to gather money by playing the damsel in distress, a trope you condemned before.

[@shepherdstar14]

You know I don't hate women, but girls liker her need to get a real man in her life, specifically one who is willing to put up with her bullshit and able to show her men are not all evil and oppressive.

[@poolgoldworldwild2163]

@@Sycokay you know she's been harassed and doxxed, right?

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

I work in a very male dominated industry, CNC machining in the aerospace industry. I am one of 2 women in the CNC aspect of our company. I'm paid just as much as every man with similar level of experience, and I'm treated just like every man in the entire shop. I've never ever felt that the reason I'm one of only 2 women in an area of about 50 people is because of preference for male machinists. It's just a simple fact that most women do not want to do this kind of work. But feminists will force the narrative that women are under represented because of misogyny. It seems a lot of women lose their perspective and their principles when confronted by the 3rd wave feminist bullies.

[@jonasuck1232]

Then count yourself lucky

[@pags86]

Your experience does not make every woman's experience.

[@ssg4predater]

P Ags That is true, but seeing how's it illegal to pay women less for just being women. Her experience is far more likely.

[@youbetzler]

P Ags most womens experience is just like most of the men they work with they don't get opportunities they probably overworked and underpaid and underappreciated. But unlike the men they work with they blame their lack of opportunity/success on sexism instead of life in general which isn't fair and isn't easy and only the lucky or overly persistent will succeed and gender has nothing to do with it.

[@oskarkuelz2706]

That ist great for you. But who has bullied you? You see, I was never bullied by a feminist - just as you say you have never been bullied by a male coworker. Both is great. But still it is important to be able to adress it, if any of us makes a different and less pleasant expierence - don't you think?When you are bullied by women I can't just say "I am not, so there can't be a problem" and also if another woman gets bullied by a male coworker you shouldn't say "I do not hav that kind of problem, so there is none." Don't you agree?

[@AndersenTrades]

1.1k beta simps disliking this video..

[@jackfahy2283]

I think it’s funny how Joe says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 Anyone else here after she wrote and ruined the script for the last of us 2 ? Years and years of waiting for this game and it’s just ruined in a second, I’m glad I read the leaks cause it saved me 60 euro

[@michaelcoleman3142]

Its such a shame, litterally makes me sad

[@jackfahy2283]

I should re iterate, she didn’t write it but had a HUGE influence over the writers.

[@jackfahy2283]

Michael Coleman I know man, wasn’t to happy myself when I found out

[@liquidtruth7954]

@Logan a grabbler

[@thibaldus3]

We should have fought to protect our hobbies (and culture) sooner.

[@ladyymir1478]

>On stage to fight bullying. >Bullies guy in the crowd >Praised for standing up to the guy in the crowd What went wrong with our society?

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

Degraded into virtue signaling hypocrisy, it's almost over, give it a year or two and it'll end, whatever remnant remains won't matter

[@miked884]

double standards

[@davidalexander9240]

Feminism next question

[@seyseiwin2972]

Banksters and politicians aren't separated

[@victorochoa3662]

Raven Whiteduck I know I’m late to the party but I hope you are right.

[@capinferno]

Irony now that Anita wants to shut Joe Rogan down.

[@ramigilneas9274]

Jimmy Logan Which means that she must be very desperate... she never talked with someone who might disagree with her before.😂

[@HeliRy]

Anita: "Hey look, a hornet nest." *stomp stomp stomp* Hornets: "BzzzzZZzzzZZzzz!" Anita: "Yiieee!!! Why is this happening to me!!!"

[@johnmarston1155]

Hornets are evil oppressors. Just because someone stomps on their nest doesn't give them the right to bee all angry and upset. Stomping on their nest gives them no right to defend themselves. They're just using such an 'attack' as an excuse to bee violent to the stompy wamen. Wamen should bee allowed to stomp on hornets nests if they want without the fear of being attacked. Hornets are obviously sexist, misogynist pigs who hate all the wamen.

[@Kurdati]

John Marston I just spilled my drink out of laughter, you fuck! XD

[@wuxiagamescentral]

Bees are part of the PATRIARCHY!

[@johnmarston1155]

Lol, sorry but glad I made you laugh :D

[@scoobydoo7535]

Hornets have pointy pokers hence she hates men, men are evil, pokemon, pokeahontas. Basically anything that pokes is evil.

[@DougB]

I love Joe... "I live in the real world.. It's crazy"

[@punkinhicktown]

so have children, what's your point? what difference was made? what impact felt? oh yeah, none.

[@chickenassasintk]

...Rogan

[@punkinhicktown]

but what did it do? in the places its been passed, what is the effect? I don't notice bans myself but I also don't belong to many groups or try to mobilize myself in any way.

[@koalanectar9382]

Joe is a buffoon with that comment. It's so ignorantly snarky. Yes, Joe, feminist activists testifying to the UN is kinda counted as a "real world" event.

[@johnsykes3970]

That comment was kinda funny, but it seems like Joe was being kinda dickish in this clip. I haven’t seen the full 3-hour show, but in the few other clips I have seen, it seemed like he was acting the same way. I wonder why?

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

"I'm totally not a part of the internet culture" sustains career via internet culture, speakers, and trending topics. lols

[@derBockmann]

to be fair, his career is not sustained by it, or was build on it

[@Hoganply]

Are you implying that internet culture is a monolythic hive in which all members should be cognizant of all goings on?

[@SpiritOfBagheera]

"When you don't have an argument, you need to be a victim." Right on, brother.

[@toniokettner4821]

so a raped woman going to court doesn't have an argument?

[@BradJames83]

Feminism Presents Anita Sarkeesian: "Snakeoil Saleswoman of the Century!"

[@BradJames83]

What on earth are you talking about?

[@billuminaticatcipher7554]

That describes her to the T. Crazy person selling fake 'cures' to people.

[@STDealer]

What about the fact that you stole this comment because you're an unclever insecure shitbag?

[@sandleparf]

Snake oils is actually good for you

[@sophieleanne6194]

It amazes me the power that Ms. Sarkeesian has over so many guys lol.

[@karliepatterson2803]

Sargon of Akkad was berated by that woman after talking about how much women are harassed online. Its called free speech and anyone can give criticism. Sargon has every right to criticize. This feminism crap is insane and self serving. They don't have to listen to anyone who disagrees with her being a victim ideology. She is an embarrassment as a woman. If he does a lot of videos about her many people agree :) I can't stand her. These women are spoiled, jaded, and man hating so you owe them everything. They are just mean ugly (inside and out) women.

[@firedemon43]

Karlie Patterson It was to show the hypocrisy that the other side doesn't abide by their own rules remember she went to the U.N. to classify you suck as harassment

[@firedemon43]

this is just for context not at you

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

Karlie Patterson guy

[@TNDCBaby]

Oh stop it. It was more than "you suck". People are threatening people with rape and murder. That is a bit more than "you suck".

[@teddyeastside8051]

Not on the internet.

[@thenson1Halo]

And years later we see the horrible ramifications of game developers listening to Anita's bullshit. Gamers ignored or made fun of her. The game makers made her games and now we have a new generation of "gamers" that simp for it.

[@Bender_B._Rodriguez]

I was unaware for a long time but I didn't buy a lot of games. Now I'm basically Japanese only at this point and it's only like 2 games that I've purchased new in 12 years.

[@remnantoftheeye5580]

What sre the horrible implication?

[@Bdawg.]

Anyone who's ever watched Sargon's videos on Anita knows that all he does is criticise her ideas, her points of views. As opposed to what Sarkeesian did: harassed him while sitting as a panellist on an anti-harassment session.

[@vesuvius2444]

He definitely insulted her in videos before. The funny thing, one of his videos calls her trash.

[@Bdawg.]

Vesuvius Link me to that video.

[@toddmichaeljohnson7139]

Basit Saeed I absolutely agree

[@latricoteuse6282]

Vesuvius Wasn't that Laci Green?

[@Brofessor_Oak]

Basit Saeed sargon nitpick I mean cherry picks soooooo

[@britbloc123]

Anita at Vidcon - "Just Google me on KZbin". Lol.

[@DragoonBB]

Just Tweet me on Facebook

[@ImJotaroKujo]

God bless the guy who leaked TLOU2

[@bfFAN221]

@Yeah Okay If Anita were let to her devices unchecked, there would've been a bigger possibility of her gaining power from under the table and striking far harder than she gained the power from all the negative clout she got...

[@bfFAN221]

@Yeah Okay No. How about fucking *no* . "Reasonable cause"? I gotta get some of those shrooms you're smoking, because anything that her or any of her ilk want is anything *but* reasonable. If anyone wanted well written/represented/executed non-standard themes/protagonists/plots in video games, I'd say rather to wait for someone of those demographics or relatable themes with years of life experience *AND* good at writing, but with the caviat of someone that *won't* shit on the gamer demographic! My comment was a summarized rebuttal and rejection of the possibility of these left-loonies having any legitimate entry, even if you think that "big houses" don't "sugar coat" them. Why? Simple - because they *never* work, or never work *well enough* for anyone's good. And as a reminder - anyone working in a "big house" is as much of a villain as Sarkeesian and her peer socio-justicar grifters... Sorry dude, but progressivity and diversity in gaming ain't possible until someone comes that won't take shit from status-quo dicksuckers *nor* will they shit on the demographic they are supposed to be earning their trust from. Case closed!

[@BayattheMoonNetwork]

Debunking a point is not harassment.

[@sdafsf]

Bay at the Moon Productions im not saying shes right but she literally got doxxed and death threads for month right wing people are way to triggered about her position

[@prometheusvenom7189]

@Felix t I’m sorry but Anita is just not credible.

[@sdafsf]

@@prometheusvenom7189 im not going to take a stance on what she said but doxxing and making threats is never ok

[@prometheusvenom7189]

@Felix t But it falls on her she makes wrong statements it’s funny she made a tweet on Twitter that Mandalorian that there’s no female cast. In it people corrected her a large majority. The point is and I agree Sargon she’s a dick. She shouldn’t say something that she doesn’t understand making threats I hate to say this but it happens to everyone on the internet. I was threatened and other crap.

[@tylertheguy3160]

@@sdafsf Anita is a human being like everyone else and shouldn't be doxxed, attacked, threatened or harassed. HOWEVER, she is an absolutely dishonest, disingenuous grifter who should be fairly criticized every time she does something shitty. And that's a lot with her.

[@aurelian9735]

Ah this video aged so well. Reading the comments from a year ago and seeing these soyfilled dudes sticking up for her was amazing. She is a con artist and now she is broke.

[@WhiteLivesMatterPL]

Trump 2020 👌

[@aurelian9735]

@@WhiteLivesMatterPL MAGA Bajs.

[@TheBroled]

Truuue. It's only a matter of time before the mask starts to slip...

[@zackgravity7284]

Wait did something happen to her? I can't stand her but I'd love to hear she got her dues.

[@ravenwhiteduck3158]

@@zackgravity7284 I mean she's host to a dead KZbin channel, that's about it

[@weresmurf5731]

Joe seriously looks like he doesn't want to be part of this whole conversation...

[@LloydChristmas08]

The sad thing is that I get why he doesn’t want to get involved, but also see the other dude has a huge point. Had she tried to cancel Joe Rogan by the time of this interview, this probably would have been more comfortable for Joe.

[@imrosebaga5600]

Yeah because sargon sounds like a little bitch.

[@weresmurf5731]

@@LloydChristmas08 indeed. If this conversation happened *today* Joe would probably have a little more context tbh. But with how Sargon presents it, he comes across a bit whiney.

[@mikepjersey]

@@weresmurf5731 I'm from the future. She went after Joe.

[@HHHKingofKings58]

I like how Rogan just mocks and belittles him the entire time. If you don't give a shit about this nonsense then why bring him on?

[@SLiMmcl]

"I made 30 videos REFERENCING her" "Thats alot" Yeah.... How many times have you talked about weed or DMT per podcast? See how easy it is to reference something?

[@Vichedges]

My favorite Joe Rogan trope is him saying something is "weird". He CONSTANTLY says "that's so weird" or "it's a really weird" etc. If it was a drinking game we'd all have died from alcohol poisoning long ago.

[@H4WK6969]

Anita is attractive? Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder

[@woolgum]

H4WK69 I could never get it up with her.

[@TheAnimationCow]

gotta admit she has just the right level of attractiveness to draw people into her controversy

[@oftheabyss3219]

She's a beast....

[@Afterfauve]

Date her attractive - no, but drop a load of cash on her teledildonic cam girl stream, Oh yeah.

[@GerOffYeWeeBastard]

Her ugly goes right to the bone, thanks to her personality.

[@markatag2680]

i am a 28 year old woman and i never heard of this woman til today, dont give her more relevence than she deseves

[@iamhughmun]

Mar Kat Ag sadly she has plenty she got to speak at a UN meeting along with a shitty woman developer that is awful and has been accused of using sex for good reviews

[@DieMasterMonkey]

Mar Kat Ag Serves on policy advisory councils at Twitter and Google. Wrote (then violated) VidCon code of conduct. Spoke at United Nations. *Might* be relevant. :-)

[@acetraker1988]

People who you don't can commit crimes/and/or do bad things. Being unaware doesn't achieve anything.

[@HareHaruhi]

Mar Kat Ag Do you think there are people who have never heard of Jack Thompson or Fredric Wertham?

[@Jaime_Protein_Cannister]

It doesn't matter "they" promote her, everyone wants her gone , but all of the millennial progressive snowflakes in the industry for some reason push her up there... there's ALWAYS trouble wherever she goes. For god's sake she was a representative for UN... thanks to her victim card. When do I get to go and talk on behalf of UN for being called a dickhead on the net?

[@varunkumarr8606]

Who's here after seeing how bad tlou2 was

[@CatAtomic99]

Check out Boogie's post vidcon video. Sarkeesian bullied the shit out of him.

[@latricoteuse6282]

Captain Oblivious A misunderstanding that they solved in the spot by discussing their point of views and then went on with their lives is bullying the shit out of someone? Stop being condescending and treating the guy like a child.

[@Doombot2011]

Joe is utterly uninterested in this topic, why did he bother even having Sargon on?

[@ThePhobos100]

She should have been kicked off vidcon for violating the rules.

[@ToonfieldAnimations]

Instead the owners of vidcon apologised... to HER...

[@MrHeavy466]

Bring Sargon back on just to spite Spotify.

[@EliteRock]

The Greens did actually do something after the "incident" (and after this interview) - they apologised to Sarkeesian.

[@pantarei8382]

I never buy any game she has touched , and I own 365 games in Xbox store.. She is a fake gamer and very greedy.., JOE PLEASE DONT DEFEND HER!! She is a horrible c. I know you wanna be objective but you would hate this woman if you meet her..

[@brohogany9920]

People need to get off Joe's back. He's playing devil's advocate and is not necessarily disagreeing with Sargon. This sort of thing is done literally every podcast. The show wouldn't be nearly as interesting if Joe didn't take a neutral stance and spark debate.

[@garhent]

When you have a misandrist going after your favorite hobby telling you that the entertainment you like is "toxic masculinity" and actually changes some studios games, you can expect people to be against her. Would you have the same response to Joe if he was playing devils advocate for Richard Spencer going with a white ethno state?

[@joncocks2262]

Plain to see he on. The fence and is there to question what the guests say. Good interviewing

[@came6939]

Defending a biased view is not neutral.

[@naelmohammed9551]

"It's because she's a DICK" Golden LMAO

[@dawnjinter1732]

I despise how Joe Rohan belittles the situation by saying he “lives in the real world”. He does realize that a large source of his income comes from the Internet and KZbin, right?

[@jackfahy2283]

Dawn Jinter he says he lives in the real world but lives in a gated community 😂😂 I caught that aswell, why does he think that he’s so high and mighty like?

[@davidpinette9656]

@@jackfahy2283 Sociopath. That's why lol

[@dashrogue1805]

Sargon and Anita both deserve each other. Anita clutches her pearls over half naked women in video games and Sargon now clutches his pearls over half naked women on OnlyFans. They’re both sex-negative in the end. It’s horseshoe politics and pointless culture war bs.

[@nonamefirst3749]

100% correct.

[@Shadowfalls89]

Not even close to the same thing. Anita hates all men because she thinks all men are oppressors. Sargon hates only fans because he thinks only fans is destructive to the relations between the sexes. Given how effed relationships between zoomers are, I think Sargon’s correct.

[@RoarOfWolverine]

Anita is a professional victim. That’s her claim to fame, she has no other talent except to claim she’s a victim. What else has she ever done. It’s just popular KZbinrs and gamers, like Sargon and Thunderf00t who has elevated her to celebrity status. Victims need attackers, so anyone who calls her out on her lies and bullshit, she can twist into harassment. Anyone who disagrees with her crazy assertions she calls harassment, making her a victim and being a victim sells, unfortunately. The worst thing anyone could do to Anita is just to ignore her. She knows absolutely nothing about video games, or anything else for that matter, so she could never make a living on her “talents”, but she makes a fortune being a professional victim.

[@GentleArt]

can't Joe just watch the footage of the event... instead of doubting how it happened. annoying

[@crestfallenwarrior8435]

Why is this episode not on Spotify or KZbin anymore??? It's gone everywhere...

[@TheOnlyTYRE]

Yeah I saw that too. Weird

[@charlieguy2795]

I believe it was part of Joe’s Spotify deal. There was a handful of episodes that wouldn’t go to Spotify

[@crestfallenwarrior8435]

@@charlieguy2795 Yeah I know and it sucks. He should have at least kept them up on KZbin. He said he was gonna keep those episodes up on here. The episodes he couldn't have on Spotify.

[@ml-fishing1341]

Gotta love how Joe Rogan will try and educate and correct guests on subjects he's clueless on.

[@balthus9105]

So has the full episode been lost to the ether now, not on spotify or youtube.

[@robertgray1365]

I wonder how Joe feels about her now that she's aimed the cancel culture cannon at him.

[@2omgwtf318]

They want women’s freedom and rights, yet they want to cover women up like some sharia law shit. Talk about uneductation.

[@rondolo1]

There is a difference between not worrying about covering up and deliberately exposing.

[@drinnerd8532]

I love that Joe Rogan doesn't cater to his guests. He treats everyone and everything they say, unbiasedly and calls them out accordingly... even if he mostly agrees with them.

[@o_o942]

Joe's afraid of her leading a Cancel Crusade on his show, so he keeps defending her and trying to steer Sargon away from criticizing her (even though Sargon is completely right).

[@Frenki94]

And it was all in vain, she wrote an article a few days ago criticizing Rogan and calling for him to deplatformed.

[@o_o942]

@@Frenki94 Yea, what a bitch. It's pointless to kowtow to these people.

[@gnarwhal7562]

Ironically, she's do that right now, as far as I know

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Did Sargon imply Joe's mom isn't woke?!

[@Spychopunk2077]

toxic masculinity is when you show others that you are better than them, because you put in effort, you invest your time into your craft, and they have no chance to compete with you, in that area , and it hurts them, they feel worthless because you can achieve greatness, in other hands they can't even do 1% of what you can, and it hurts them even more, when you show them that you are better than them in many different areas, even in the areas where they thought they could be better than you. there is no such thing as toxic masculinity, its just some useless people making excuse for their lack of dedication to life, and to become better, they are just lazy, or do not care about improving, and they expect people to respect them for their laziness and excuses.... these people are the devolution of man kind, and should not be accepted. And one more thing, reality is there, but some people fail to accept it, just like every body is going to die, but most people fail to realize it, and throw their lives away, while calling some one who is working hard is " toxic masculinity" some one work hard, because they know, they should make the best out of their life while its still there, so when they die they can leave the world some thing to miss...

[@TheWeebinar]

Agreed. Western women have become so accustomed to being coddled and infantilized that now they view a man simply looking at them as harassment. As the saying goes "When you are used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like torture" It is truly a sad state of affairs but it restores a bit of lost hope to know that a woman who looks as good as you do in this picture thinks this way. May fortune smile upon you.

[@kylelongjohn837]

Get off our games lady.

[@Mr.McWatson]

This is so surreal seeing these two together

[@Wesablo]

HAHAHA so tru!

[@jak3w]

Why who is he?

[@DEV3N87]

@@jak3w hes a Kekistani National. Great man!

[@pank3245]

@@DEV3N87 More like Sargon of Applebees, Not only did he single handedly destroyed UKIP, but he joined the party just to have bragging rights on 4chan.

[@SB-ki3jw]

Try finding this full podcast on Spotify. #979. Good luck

[@cuzthatshoweyroll]

"A Liberal wants quality of opportunity and a progressive wants quality of outcome." Well put!

[@RetroDawn]

The phrase is usually about "equality", not quality. I believe that's what he siad, but it did sound like "quality" with his British accent.

[@MrAlucard7]

If we just ignore this "Female" thing it should just go away. Sadly this tactic doesnt seem to be working 🤣

[@jairoherrera4040]

Yet women are still triggered over it bc they are weak minded. Men don't mind being called male.

[@Hinatachan360]

Criticism isn't harassment. Get over it, Anita.

[@TheStuckNorris]

Its a shame this full podcast was never switched over to spotify and has been deleted by youtube.... censorship wins everytime

[@toniokettner4821]

well, i don't see why spotify would want a nazi talking for 3 hours

[@TheStuckNorris]

@@toniokettner4821 oh no not Nazis.... You mean ppl you don't agree with... You idiots have took all the meaning from that word congrats sheep

[@TheStuckNorris]

@@toniokettner4821 btw Sargon was the one that some gamer chick called sexist .. you are thinking of the other fat British dude

[@toniokettner4821]

@@TheStuckNorris ok sorry, i exaggerated. he's a white nationalist.

[@sparrowriver7916]

Oh how this has aged like fine wine... Joe if only you knew what would happen

[@lmaololroflcopter]

BTW, Carl has been critical of women who make money from OnlyFans. Who’s sex negative now, Carlgon?

[@dukemussa343]

1:40 You shouldn't hate your oppressor. Why? Why is it unacceptable to never hate? Attack her victim complex, not the rational emotion of hatred.

[@Brismo7]

He is Liberal.

[@Rantsnrambles808]

"unacceptable to never hate" you kind of lost me because of the double negative. But the issue with hating your oppressor is often that not everyone agrees that you are being oppressed. It's like how many of the pro black movements hate whites because they are "oppressed".

[@CaptainCocaine]

Hate begets hate. Break the cycle.

[@Brismo7]

Albert Wesker it's true. look up his politics.

[@arcuscerebellumus8797]

Emotions are not rational by definition. Rational emotion is like salty sugar or bright darkness.

[@askmewhy5570]

Who is watching this in 2020 ?

[@fluffynoses]

Wow Sargon actually got out of his room for once

[@dislike_button33]

fluffynoses That beats you.

[@wishmaster2575]

so what? if he wants to stay in his room that's his choice..... the fact you observe that and care enough to comment shows a lot about who you truly are

[@georgesoros8589]

@@wishmaster2575 with a response like that you must be a gigantic fat turd

[@lucasparham5068]

Wishmaster is one of Soy boys groomed lads.

[@spookytoothable1911]

LOL.

[@chronicguardian9684]

"That's fine, but that's not right." Quintessential Britishness

[@frankensteingmail6037]

Glad Joe steered Sargon away from all the ad hominem.

[@TraceMyers26]

"What causes these people to group up into these weird sort of echo chambers..." echo echo echo.

[@dawnjinter1732]

Joe sounds really ignorant in this interview, but hey, what’s new.

[@porassrivastava8242]

Sargon talked so well 3 years later and Anita is going down her value is plummeting and the numbers on her channel are decreasing.

[@seanroberts2470]

I'm a freak

[@asarishepard8171]

Anita needed to be told growing up to shut her trap. we'd all be better off today if she was told she's not special, shes' just another person.

[@rondolo1]

That is the most horrible thing you can tell anyone.

[@asarishepard8171]

@@rondolo1 not really. Pretty sure you're thinking of at least 5 people who need to hear this.

[@snoookie456]

Joe, he's literally mentioned Anita less than you mention anyone like Amy Schumer in your podcast...

[@SkyWalkerBeats]

Joe, “Toe The Line” Rogan

[@mattcox543211]

It's so nice to see Carl then and now and see the progress made

[@philmitchell91]

​@@waffins7057 Carl definitely has done a 180 on that position, like Dave Rubin and a few others.

[@mn5499]

I don’t know why but rogan comes across as almost intentionally giving him a hard time for no reason.

[@slaterslater5944]

More like Surgin Off Akkok is giving himself a hard time by being such a dimwitted grifter.

[@geordangundelfinger8922]

It's hilarious that this video is suddenly relevant again. She must be out of money.

[@Sultschiem]

I`m in the games industry, and I feel kinda ashamed, that she is made some sort of embassador for women in games, considering that she incorporates female toxicity so much. Even people in the industry kinda put her on a pedastal and would not accept any professional criticism of her work, no matter how wrong it is. They do not accept it, and no matter how professionaly you criticise her, they call you a gamergater and want to call you a troll and get you out. It really pisses me off. There was a genuine discussion about female representation in games, I had high hopes of her videos thinking that she would maybe do a scholarly job (not knowing anything about her)....and then did this hack-garbage fire that people are so amazed by. She lied and was misleading several times (e.g. saints row 4, complained about female strippers that you could attack and how its sexist and made sure the male strippers weren`t on screen). She praised games that according to her own standards are sexist, and when she was asked how she would design a non-sexist game...her description didn`t hold up to her own standards. Not to mention basically scamed people, by just stealing the footage, for which she took the money for.

[@LordThree]

I think I’ve seen Anita in a video maybe once. I don’t recall her being attractive

[@dani4ever]

I've been waiting for this. "you live in an insulated world" yes, yes he does

[@robert2754]

Wow I wish Joe would rewatch this

[@TheFourNobleTruths2]

Joe Rogan says he doesnt know who Anita Sarkisian yet he insists that she has never said something about men one way or the other? Sargons 30 videos are about ideas, feminism in particular. The extent of personal attacks in those are allusions to her being a fraud (for which there is evidence). Sargon does come off as a little lacking in self awareness when he discusses issues very specific to his scene. This is what makes Sargon and MGTOW folk are cringey, regardless of the validity of their ideas and arguements which detracts from their unique perspectives and most especially their humour!

[@cjgonz2004]

I don't particularly like Anita Sarkeesian either, but Sargon seemed just as biased as she is in this conversation.

[@superbalaur1297]

This has aged well…

[@Diemondbakk]

The longer he talks about her the madder he gets 🤣

[@unregierbar7694]

People like her ruin everything they touch.

[@pliskinsnake7356]

Joe white knight rogan, Defending anita

[@bertybertface1914]

Joe left KZbin because of the impending censorship issue (and a nice pay cheque) spoken about in this clip. Not so "i live in the real world" now is it? Spotify only needs to go full video and they will attack that platform too.

[@MrWuggles]

If I was offered $100 million to switch platforms and still be able to post select clips on my previous platform, KZbin could ban everyone who has ever said the word "apple" for all I care. Also Spotify can just slap the "explicit" sticker on JRE episodes and no one's the wiser. No need for censorship if you warn the audience about what's coming.

[@moedog]

feminist and logic don't mix.

[@Diego-Designs]

Sargon sounds like he's desperate or a "victim" as well. I don't like Sarkesian, but he also whines like her, to the point that Joe had to tell him to talk about something else, which he does, but then comes right back into it.

[@alexanderm3504]

The thumbnail shows us how Joe looks like when he's sleeping

[@BMG_Giving]

Back from 2021. Need to go back. Had to come back to this for common sense.

[@mwm9262]

Sargon is talking about 3rd wave feminism. There is a big difference.

[@LizardsLore]

Kram Notrom bigfacts

[@EdricoftheWeald]

But 1st wave feminism didn't exist (very few suffragettes called themselves feminist), and 2nd wave feminism is almost just as bad as 3rd wave in terms of sexism.