Joe Rogan | Why Was Frank Mir Punished Worse Than Jon Jones?

[@tbg_dies_1st494]

I don’t like being lied to.

[@frodo691]

TBG_ Dies_1st no one does. Its a fucked up unfair world. Might be time to grow the fuck up peter pan. Do you support a political party? Theyre lying to all of us. “Its all bullshit”-Carlin

[@joeyo3386]

Jeff Langley ♥️

[@johnthomas1422]

Then you don't like the UFC.

[@jordanholliday596]

@Nate K "Seeing as you called him peter pan means your upset over that statement, children act that way" *literal next sentence* "Grow up peter pan"

[@ferraribadlad1]

Don't like being lied to? That's pretty much every guest Shill Rogan has on. Almost as bad as Joey Diaz.

[@GreenMach1ne]

This situation has seriously changed my view of the UFC...not just because of how greasy this appears...but, most importantly, how badly they have treated the fans & fighters alike in this particular situation.

[@GreenMach1ne]

Nino Brown valid point...to me, this just takes it to a new level.

[@GreenMach1ne]

Bongzzz 420 damn...& the hits just keep comin’ 👎

[@nolanharris4111]

I think the move to LA was because of the fans (and money).

[@m4hk5]

and what would have been a better solution?

[@nolanharris4111]

@cody savoie Yes, keeping Jones as the headliner for UFC 232 was for the fans. They could have easily dropped Jones and made Cyborg and Nunes the main events and stayed in Vegas.

[@williammaisonet8228]

I barely ever comment, but I'm sick of this. Nick Diaz lost his best fighting years, and opportunities to feed him self over marijuana, but Jones gets chance after chance. From coke to roids, and he gets less time for snitching.. I've lost all respect for the UFC and the system they use to dicipline these fighters.

[@eclecticcerebro8287]

Exactly!!!

[@livingshadows6731]

it's all about money unfortunately. rules don't mean shit when money comes into play

[@danmartin8191]

NSAC suspended Diaz. The UFC and USADA had nothing to do with that. Nick was eligible to fight in 2016 (he was 32) Nick missed out on his best fighting years cause he doesn't want to fight.

[@ferraribadlad1]

Jones is a bigger money maker than Diaz ever was or would of been. Nate ruined his brothers legacy by begging Conor for a 3rd fight.

[@michaelbertram1994]

Well said. I think most of us feel the same way

[@drmariopepper4354]

Jon Jones is a snitch confirmed

[@johnthomas1422]

DrMario Pepper a drug using, hit and running, snitch, to be more precise.

[@seanbaugh3239]

Snitches hit pregnant bitches !!! And then run !!!! *"NUFF SAID"*

[@jordanholliday596]

Snitches get steroids... Wait that's not right

[@ferraribadlad1]

Snitches go down in UFC Hall of Fame 👍

[@kickitwithcuzzo]

@@seanbaugh3239 Bro wtf! lmfaoo 🤣

[@rpparker5371]

Joe Rogan is drinking the kool-aid.... where is Eddie Bravo when you need him

[@pinkyizthebrain2397]

Rp parker isn’t so much drinking it. He’s the one selling it. He’s a company bitch who knows Jones cheated and knows he’s gotta go on his “podcast” and lie his ass off so the ppv sells.

[@TheNewFNShow]

Joe just has to look into it.

[@Drfrostybrew]

I was gonna say Rogan is serving the kool aid. works for UFC, friends with Jon Jones,etc... what about when Rogan said Jones was snorting tainted cocaine???

[@tchyacinth]

Lol right. The one time Eddie Bravo is actually needed

[@whatisthishandlegarbage]

yeah, let flat earth eddie bravo set him straight, bro.

[@Kareesu]

This guy is destroying his own reputation

[@nolanharris4111]

Indeed.

[@ferraribadlad1]

He has a job to keep. Blame USADA.

[@Mslt2474]

ferraribadlad blame the UFC

[@jonm7888]

He's selling his reputation.

[@blaze556922]

How so? By speaking the truth?

[@erwerwewerwer4575]

what about the time he hid under a boxing ring for 12 hours when usada reps wanted to test him?

[@nolanharris4111]

People can argue Jones is innocent all they want, but even they have to admit him hiding under the ring to avoid being tested is suspicious behavior.

[@raidmasters4686]

Allegedly

[@MarkWalmsley]

What about his brothers testing positive for the same stuff?

[@tgo007]

Joe brought this up near the end of the podcast. Jeff said that was pre usada. That was the Nevada sports commission that came for Jon.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

A story started by someone he beat, not USADA. USADA never confirmed it.

[@mart9898]

He's talking fast and using crappy data just to fool the audience. Mir's beef was with USADA telling him the metabolite could not come from anything he ingested a year ago. Actually they said 6 months. Meanwhile, here Jones is getting a pass from something he had "long term metabolites" from 18 months ago.

[@johnthomas1422]

crzy J and you swallow UFC lies like Jones swallows tbol.

[@jackburton2680]

Exactly. THAT is what Joe is asking about and Jeff Nowitski, instead of answring it, just starts going off on this bizarre, impertinent tangent about Jones arbitration from over a year ago. And even more bizarre, Rogan for some reason doesnt press him on the question.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

Testing has improved since Mir was tested. Jones snitched, Mir didn't. It's not fucking rocket science!

[@mart9898]

Rogan dropped the ball in this interview. He does not want to lose the front row seats to this and future events. Novitzky keeps repeating he's not an expert. Meanwhile White told Ariel at the press conference "Ask the experts. Ask Novitzky." Dana and Novitzky are like Nazis after WW2, both innocent and unaware.

[@Frip36]

@@jackburton2680 Rogan is very limited.

[@jopo7996]

Although Jeff never worked for USADA, now that he works for the UFC he, Ultimately Says Anything Dana Asks.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

USADA is a government agency. Jeff worked for the government and partnered with USADA to bust drug criminals. He has power to pull strings to hide things under the rug.

[@KryzMasta]

Oh, that’s very beautifully constructed, kudos sir. :D

[@MrRIZZ-he2lv]

Clever

[@excellagionne9988]

I still like Dana, just don't like Jon Jones.

[@billymandem1628]

This kid is a fooking UFC employee😂 get an unbiased expert joe!

[@carsongaines1476]

Billy Mandem UFC doesn’t want cheaters. That has been proven in the past

[@Zonmy0]

This kid? How old are you bitch?

[@PeterTarr]

He does NOT properly address the Mir situation OR the substantial assistance portion or anything here to be quite honest. He side steps each. He also seems very uncomfortable.

[@euphotix]

At 8:45 he explains why Mir didn't get the same treatment as Jones.

[@monkeymagic436]

@@euphotix no he never

[@guesswho8016]

Reagan cut him often ask him about Barnett

[@TheVileOne]

@@euphotix that appeared to be about Josh Barnett. He started talking about Mir and then went on a whole other tangent.

[@euphotix]

Sorry 6:45 Is where he explains why.

[@lkb4781]

I will never financially support the ufc ever again.

[@johnthomas1422]

L KB just use duckduckgo to find a free stream. It's not hard.

[@seanbaugh3239]

I will never eat 3 Spicy Bean Burritos in a row without a spare pair of clean boxer shorts ever again !!!! *"NUFF SAID"*

[@jordanholliday596]

@@Converge3 thats how fighters make their money its not idiotic there's still good fighters in the ufc that deserve the ppv buys

[@ferraribadlad1]

You still are just by watching this podcast 😂

[@MichaelHenriksenGM]

Shut up

[@Gaolii]

Asks about Frank Mir in the first minute - changes the subject almost immediately - goes back to Frank Mir - changes the subject again ... Basically 12 minute clip and the only answer we get is that Mir's 20 picogram positive for a long term metabolite is different than Jon Jones' 60 picogram positive for a long term metabolite, because Mir didn't cooperate with USADA or arbitrate... Mir gets 2 years, Jones gets a title shot. Snitches get stitches, except in the UFC - there they get belts.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

He worked for the Feds??? Red flag. Eddie Bravo would have a field day with this federal informant.

[@andrewgofficial]

jeramiah mcneece look into it...

[@Mountaindewdewable]

0:40 Aka snitching

[@thismothafuckasaid7304]

Exactly. It sounds like dimes were dropping

[@DanielVazquez-og2xu]

Not only a cheat a fraud but even worse a damn snitch!!! Gus i believe its time to revoke Jons "black card"

[@jillenecotter6489]

Lmmfao😂😂

[@MarkWalmsley]

That'd what I was thinking and later he basically admits it.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

On who and what is the question. I'm betting on the NFL. His brother probably let some stuff slip.

[@CrunchyKieran15]

This man for all of 3 days I have seen his face and talk just screams weasel

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

He worked for the Feds. What do you expect??? Look at what the Feds did to Snowden for revealing their dirty secrets. USADA is a government agency. This guy worked for a different government agency but still had connections to USADA. He has power to pull strings to hide things under the rug.

[@blaze556922]

He's a specialist in his field. His statement on an issue like this carries weight, yours doesn't. So run along you little weasel.

[@CrunchyKieran15]

Yautja Prime his statement no longer carries weight because it’s so murky and he’s an employee of the UFC not USADA, so instead of looking for a confrontation on KZbin, you pipe down. Jon literally has more in his body than when his first popped, he tested clean in 6 tests in 6 months prior to this fight but then all of a sudden it’s an issue? Riiiiiigggghhhhtttt, then they say he flagged a couple times and yet no one told Dana?? He said the first he heard was the weekend he moved it, bullshit. I’m backing up my opinion you did not so relax

[@CaleCoast]

He humbly introduced a tshirt at the end of the podcast that his daughter designed. He acted as though it wasnt a sales pitch, did you catch that?

[@zamfambam]

WEASAL! Ah a perfect discription of this liar.

[@abdullahisharif7975]

joe "what do you mean" rogan

[@MrMojo501]

Man this dude has professional bullshiter writen all over him. The way he structures his sentences is fishy af. Red flags galore with the transparency talk. 5:14 Very politicianesque in his use of words Joe.

[@MarkWalmsley]

He's ex FBI, he is trained to beat about the Bush.

[@slangsd]

People talk this along many different professional occupations when their main objective is to persuade. It's not that they are BSing, but saying things in a way to develop a particular narrative. It's a matter of being able to recognize it and be a critical thinker

[@rakaftan]

No, that’s how people talk about sensitive subject when they are professional and stick to what they actually know.

[@CeejayTXDS]

You must be an expert on detecting liars huh?

[@SirGentTex]

It's what happens after you work for the man for 20 years.

[@RunDCM]

Joe "I believe everyone on my podcast" Rogan

[@Jon-op1pr]

except for the aikido guy

[@donaldmattos1759]

@@Jon-op1pr or Bryan Callen

[@ElCapitan1997]

Except Eddie Bravo or conspiracies

[@nickpappas17]

Ya try and imagine not having a completely biased opinion about everything.

[@damnation3236]

bad one man

[@SURF4LIFE84]

Joe u know its all BS...

[@sheikzilla1029]

Joe works for the UFC do you think this isn't prescreened by Dana and team come on now

[@SURF4LIFE84]

@@sheikzilla1029 "it is, what it is"

[@justinlutz5420]

This dudes a "former" Federal agent. Can't trust anything he says. Pointless interview.

[@jackburton2680]

It's even more pointless because Rogan fails to press him on issues surrounding the CURRENT fiasco occurring, which is all anyone cares about. This entire vid is Novigski talking at length about all these other fighters and arbitration and situations from years ago, relating NONE of it to what is occurring in the here and now. Im very dissapointed in Rogan, as i thought he was going to try and get info out of Novitski about this stuff.

[@Frip36]

@@jackburton2680 It's bad enough to bring Rogan yet another notch lower in his downfall. Even the dumb Rogan fans are clueing into to this meat-head now.

[@MrMarcriv80]

Joe is either being played by Dana and the Golden Snitch or he actually believes this ridiculous nonsense.

[@Bruinsman-rh2dc]

Marcelo Rivadeneira how about you just listen to people smarter than you and he clearly explains it throughout the podcast what happened and it’s legit

[@MrMarcriv80]

@@Bruinsman-rh2dc Nah

[@darrynjacobs8550]

@@Bruinsman-rh2dc Fuck off

[@darrynjacobs8550]

@@Bruinsman-rh2dc Argumentum ad verecundiam

[@darrynjacobs8550]

@@Bruinsman-rh2dc Or appeal to authority fallacy. Make a valid argument. Not this crap you're trying to spew

[@brandonbain4904]

DID THIS DUDE JUST ADMIT THAT JON JONES SNITCHED HIS WAY OUT OF THE FIRST INSTANCE??????????????

[@twinturbo5212]

Frank Mir is a beast, when he fought Brock I was literally speachless, and not because of my speach impediment

[@tommyinreallife]

He was a super talented guy and unfortunately just had some bad luck especially considering the horrible motorcycle accident that left him in a situation where he could never compete in the top tier again and regain his legacy but I still think that he's one of the goats

[@stefanambrister3220]

Someone who actually works at usada should be interviewed then.

[@inkevinsworld]

Basically Jones snitched back then

[@ebo38]

Imagine a world of natural athlete's, now look at the UFC.

[@ladev91]

if only they knew about soy protein, they wouldn't need steroids smh

[@edgelordgassington2969]

Huge Monges you are not the bugez

[@seanbaugh3239]

@Stretch Shorty And creates man boobies !!!! Got Milk ???? *"NUFF SAID"*

[@ferraribadlad1]

Only Natural Top Athlete I can see is Daniel Cormier.

[@Chernobylcunt]

john doe IGF-1 raisening

[@LA_Native]

11:56 you’re telling me that someone can’t hire a chemist to make those calculations? It’s entirely possible , 100%

[@MarkWalmsley]

They could and they do. It's an industry in itself. Joe even mentioned when talking to Bisping that there are camps who hire labs to help them stay one step ahead and cheat. The fact is the tests can still be beaten and because of that you have to suspect that some athletes will still want to try. Also the labs aren't suddenly going to disappear as even if one sport goes clean and their athletes decide to stop using, there will always be others in other sports.

[@MARGANK]

Guillermo A no brother ur understanding it wrong. He said that the fighters would not be able to match the tests that USADA is doing away from the fighters to their own levels saying “I know there test has a trace of ostirin so I’m gonna take ostirin therefore I have an excuse.” Jeff is saying that there is no way a fighter can match the USADA test separate to what is being secreted through their body. That would take PHD level chemists and he isn’t aware of any fighters who have that

[@MARGANK]

Guillermo A go to 11:30 and listen carefully and he says what i mentioned at 11:50

[@MARGANK]

Guillermo A OHHHH FUCK NEVERMIND MAN I SEE WHAT YOU MEANT

[@MARGANK]

Guillermo A SORRY FOR BEING AN IDIOT LOL. Yea I see what ur saying. Yea I agree with that lol. Sorry for wasting your time

[@markfacebook]

Jon Jones is a draw, and Frank Mir isnt. Period. The UFC is just WWE with guys that cant work like a pro wrestler. You think a guy like John Cena isnt doing roids? Lol

[@chiefkeefsosa7260]

joah45 Jones wouldn’t beat Mir if they ever squared off. In Bellator Mir lost to Fedor, the 🐐 and his other loss was bc he was injured during the fight.

[@drmariopepper4354]

Wow this is such BS

[@juviedagreat17]

Vince McMahon should run the ufc

[@ComeAndSee101]

"WE NEED MONEH" - Dana "Van Der Linde" White

[@SortaProfessional89]

Arthur, ohh Arthur. How are you son?

[@ComeAndSee101]

@@SortaProfessional89 😂

[@joereyes5441]

Hahhahahaha

[@jonanderson1272]

frank didn't go to arbitration or snitch jon did both pretty simple

[@VantaClawz]

Yo, why is Frank Mir not on Rogan all the TIME? That guy is awesome.

[@Wushutigercranekungfudragon]

I was here for Frank but I got this guys resume

[@thekingofcool2105]

Any chance this guy related to Hugo Weaving?

[@TheRyanshp]

the king of cool looks more related to Johnny Sins

[@homescool3767]

the king of cool how dare u ....funny but how dare u 😒🤣

[@juliocenteno2360]

There should be no difference between intenional and non intentional...they are pro athletes with professional trainers and nutritionist etc...it is there job to not take prohibited substances.

[@effinpeeled3428]

Damn joe... your gonna sink with Jon Jones.

[@cpm4778]

What is treadstone? who am I?

[@tetog70]

Lmaoooo

[@nicklewandowski3877]

Bourne to be alive

[@paolo2012]

Hahahahahaha fucking gold

[@SJHD]

BULLSHIT! - Karl Pilkington

[@GREGG_VALENTINO]

LOL,,,DANA WHITE GOT HIM INTO THIS BUSINESS AND YOU DO NOT THINK DANA DOESNT PULL THIS GUYS STRINGS A LITTLE BIT!!!.

[@scottadams8049]

Jones assisted USADS in layman’s terms he told on other fighters

[@joeljohnson3789]

Nate dropped the truth bomb and they cut his mic. “THEY ARE ALL ON STEROIDS”

[@ciaranlynch2128]

I guess Jon is the new golden snitch

[@izzybobkelley4465]

Same reason Barry bonds wasn't punished their black

[@Danny-wi2oe]

When Joe said "that would mean Jon knows about cheating" shit got real quiet. I think that guy stopped breathing for a sec

[@tmoney7643]

This podcast is nothing but damage control for the UFC.

[@Carloshernandezmma]

Yet joe works for em still

[@wes8740]

I’m pissed off that my boss today paid me 37 hours when I worked 48. I hate working for smucks

[@realcane9908]

I think it’s fair to flip white privilege and say that blacks have corporate privilege

[@jimmymc4752]

As a Bachelor of Honors 4th Year Chemist who is "playing scientist at home" some of the stuff this guy is saying is rubbish. First he states why people at home should not compare different substance which appear similar as there chemical properties and impact on the body can vary greatly. Then he goes on to compare two substances on the premise that they are both "chlorinated"(contain chlorine)?! That's like saying a VW Golf is the same as a Mclaren P1 because both have 4 wheels. Don't be fooled by this dude's bs. Jones clearly cheated, the UFC need and can't afford to lose the PPV Jones generates end of story!

[@MrKsan05]

I was live at UFC 2 and watched it from UFC 2 all the way to this. After seeing how they treated other fighters while giving a reach around for Jones, I quit and have not bought a UFC since

[@johnthomas1422]

I trust this UFC stooge more than NSAC... said no one ever.

[@rachellefiriro]

But have you ever done DMT?

[@64wy4x8s]

"I was a federal agent for 22.5 years" Lol in reality he was an accountant for the FDA

[@schoolis2cool846]

If he worked for the FEDERAL DRUG ASSOCIATED.. he was a federal agent. You fuckin donkey.

[@NaughtyNomadFitness]

Just look at his body language....crossed elbows most of the time....hmmmmmm

[@fabianalvarez9713]

NaughtyNomadFitness you a fuckin psychologist or what

[@adisakhalil4567]

No NNF is right. He looks like he's lying. You don't need a PHD for that tool.

[@cameronwhiteside8114]

Fabian Alvarez lol that’s what I was going to say

[@fabianalvarez9713]

Adisa Khalil just because he “looks” like he’s lying in YOUR eyes doesn’t mean he is, tool

[@eclecticcerebro8287]

DEFINITELY uncomfortable with certain areas...

[@mosl2te]

Here's the difference... Frank Mir wasn't the face of the UFC.

[@mosl2te]

How can he be a schill ? He used to work for the Federal government.

[@drazzzpoppp5022]

i dont work for usada use to work very closely with usada i insulate my self from usada

[@fuzzuck]

'Checks & Balances' - Money fighters get treated one way, Losing fighters get fucked.

[@31SecondCarShow]

For the last time, THE UFC NEEDS TO COME OUT WITH THEIR OWN SUPPLEMENT LINE TO GIVE TO THEIR ATHLETES.

[@JasonMichaelBernardo]

He's lying. It's just my opinion.

[@michaelbertram1994]

Most of our opinions. Hes shady AF

[@JasonMichaelBernardo]

@@michaelbertram1994 it's not just a couple phrases here and there either. It's his body language, how he is saying things, what he is saying. It's all fooken tragic...

[@mrh3085]

What I learned from this exchange is that life isn’t fair. Marquee athletes are treated differently when breaking the rules than others in this sport. The UFC isn’t going to cannibalize itself. The juice has to be worth the squeeze. Waters wet, the sky’s blue, women have secrets...

[@Berserkr90]

I dont know if hes getting preferential treatment because hes a marquee athelete or because he snitched for usada... but either way its all fishy

[@ryanarcher5900]

Not a big commenter on KZbin usually, but I gotta give some credit when someone quotes Joe Hallenbeck.

[@mrh3085]

Ryan Archer you and I know Satin Claus is out there and he’s getting stronger. 😉 #HeadOrGut?

[@plottaz]

Yoel Romero and his mildly tainted creatine that had a sprinkle of ostarine in is the best one yet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@downsouth00]

This guys looks and personality fit so perfectly its almost comical. If I made a cartoon and I was trying to draw a shady, slimy character I could just sketch this guy

[@bryanabrego610]

IVE NEVER WORKED FOR USASA, I WORKED REALLY RRALLY REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM

[@ManiacMageetheG]

Who is watching this after Mir's interview with Luke in 2019.

[@ArkticDark]

I didn't know Joe was getting coach John McGerk on!

[@pauldiamante4814]

So does that make him the Golden Assistant?

[@jaytorr6701]

Funny how only the fighters whose physique looks like they are cheering are the ones who get caught...

[@JeffBourke]

The result is 60 picograms per mili-litre (60 pg/ml). To give you an idea of how small a mililitre is, take litre of liquid, and divide that into a thousand drops. Every single droplet contains 60 picograms.

[@llibmukred5906]

They still expect people to pay $70 for their corrupt product?...

[@TheZeppelin14]

Keyboard scientist are out in full force this week, don't know shit from apple butter.

[@YurManDavid]

Where is this “no evidence of intentional ingestion”? Because I sure as fuck don’t remember they’re being a scrap of evidence from Jones’ team in his court case. His entire defense was literally “why would I take steroids? It’s so stupid. I never did it, I swear.”

[@mrcouch991]

What we have here es two UFC employees following orders.

[@usernotfound904]

Joe "My wife had an affair with a Coyote" Rogan

[@antonioc19999]

Jones got that OJ treatment😂😂😂😂😂

[@NicThatOneKid]

2 UFC employees ... Hmmm

[@KM-mq1nv]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@fifacraftcrafthd7557]

the best way to sort this all out would be for every fighter to have a designated usada testing employee, fighters give the employee a sample of all the suppliments they are taking, including medication and if approved even on the 1% chance its contaminated and comes up positive on a test for some reason it doesn't count as they were approved buy the employee showing there was no intent of cheating.

[@darrylwallace2428]

I like Jon Jones and all, but considering how others were punished for the exact same thing he was given a pass for, it really isn’t fair that he’s in the clear right now. What’s even worse is Jon getting away with this gives others an excuse to do the exact same thing.

[@blaze556922]

If Mir were an undefeated Champion, he would be treated differently. Why is that hard to understand? Everyone should be given the same treatment but show me anywhere in life where that happens

[@jiggudyjake]

"None of our fighters have Phd's" Well they have guys working for them that probably do.

[@lkhjsdfg]

This is just weird. You can’t consume all these substances? Why don’t they also ban exercise? It makes you stronger and gives you an unfair advantage.

[@StealthJackson12B]

If you're not drinking water you're doping PERIOD. Fighters who work hard shouldn't have to take supplements.

[@patricknez7258]

I appreciate Joe trying to get to the bottom of this. I do trust Joe tbh. And I want to believe Novitski is telling the truth, but he can't really explain why Jon got such an unprecedentedly shortened penalty. And saying he's not involved with that part so he doesn't know, feels convenient. I'm even willing to believe Jon actually may not have done it again this time. But the shortened suspension for no apparent reason is kind of at the heart of this matter. At least for me it is. And the type of compartmentalization Novitski cites for not knowing, gives each entity or "compartment," deniable plausibility. So they're not working together, but all of their work comes together to get a superstar an anomalously short suspension. Someone is ultimately in charge, or a liaison or something at least. Lastly, Novitski said part of their decision was the fact that, "There was no evidence Jon had taken it on purpose." What? Like finding a steroid in someone's system? Like that kind of evidence? So, maybe I'm being devil's advocate, but is there any evidence that he didn't do it on purpose? Also, Novitski says one athlete may not have done it on purpose, but the athlete still had it in his system, so USADA had to weigh that. Well, Jones has turinabol in his system, so does USADA need to weigh that? Sad to say, imo, Novitski is becoming less and less believable. But I respect his willingness to discuss it. And I appreciate Joe for trying to sort out this mess. It's still crazy!

[@jnava121]

Joe : " What does leg kicks has to do with this , I'm really good at taekwondo" rogan

[@hoffdawgwithmustard9647]

This is an embarrassment for rogan, the golden rat, and the clown dana. Disgusting the way they handled this

[@davidbriceno9261]

So basically Jon just used a shit ton of loopholes to lower his sentence from USADA.

[@OdinAesthetic]

Jon repeatedly claims he's never knowingly put any banned substance in his body to gain an advantage. How could he possibly help usada? To any worthwhile degree?

[@BeenPWNED]

Until there is a way to prove whether or not it gives performance enhancing benefits, the line should be drawn at 1 piccogram.

[@dino6912]

So on ufc countdown we saw fighters using special equipment where the fighter goes into a capsule and they experience changes in temperature, air density etc. Apparently it helps fighters recover faster and enhances them "naturally". Now my question is: where is the line drawn on performance enhancing? Are pills and liquids a no no? And special capsules, equipment ok? it's just a question, let's talk about it.

[@ESPLTD322]

The real reason is because Dana White needed to get rid of Frank Mir and needs Jon Jones to make him money. Dana INSTRUCTED Jeffery, he’s the boss. Just like how there’s videos and witnesses talking about Conor’s coke problem and obvious steroid usage. Conor is a money maker, that’s all that matters. Rules only matter when you aren’t needed...

[@O-Mf-Faulk]

End of the day... The greatest mixed martial artist of all time is gonna be credited w more chances than just ok fighters.. that's just that. It is what it is.

[@Corey5420]

In other words, Jon Jones is probably a freakin informant.

[@patmc5474]

The plot thickens, pity the FACTS won't be reported as much as the rumour mill speculation does.

[@STRmw2]

presented evidence? no he COULDN'T provide definitive evidence of where it came from.

[@GenericYoutubeCommenter241]

Ultimately Says Anything Dana Asks

[@TrillaDilla410]

This guy's got a helluva radio voice! #TheGoldenVoice

[@jinglelingle26]

Joe says, "so whats that mean?"...Nowitzki, "basically im gonna say abuncha shit that nobody understands until it sounds halfway believable"

[@idontwantahandle510]

You're witnessing the pivotal moment in a man's life. Sell your soul to corporate or keep your integrity. Novisky chose corporate. It's painful to watch him try to sell this.

[@Masterquang]

Everybody’s on steroids - Nate Diaz