Joel Klatt talks Lincoln Riley rumors, CFP rankings, Michigan & Michigan State I NCAA I THE HERD

Joel Klatt joins Colin Cowherd to discuss the biggest college football news heading into Week 12 and playoff/bowl talk, including his reaction to the latest CFP rankings. Hear what Klatt has to say about which teams that have plausible roads to the playoffs and whether Cincinnati belongs in the top four spots. He also discusses whether Michigan deserves to be ranked higher than Michigan State despite losing to the Spartans. He also analyzes Steve Sarkisian's struggles at Texas and addresses the Lincoln Riley rumors of departing Oklahoma after the season.
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Joel Klatt talks Lincoln Riley rumors, CFP rankings, Michigan & Michigan State I NCAA I THE HERD
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[@TheHerdOnFS1]

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[@UncleRicoOSU]

he yells a lot

[@darkdmg9371]

Based on that statistics ohio state should be 3 and Oregon 4

[@jeffpaulene]

These two guys are 🤡 's. Colin is a circus clown, and Klatt is a rodeo clown. Neither have a clue about the difficulty of playing football in the SEC.

[@adammarcotte4803]

Joel Klatt should be in WWE, lol

[@kryan1234567890]

Not if you keep supporting communism and socialism clown boy. Socialism and Communism have destroyed more lives and brought to more generations of people into poverty and death than anything else.

[@RickSanchez167]

This is by far the best college football commentary every week. Make it an hour

[@wuxee7265]

Please make it an hour!!!!

[@TheRichyrich1281]

Less is more

[@colepriceguitar1153]

ever heard of latekick?

[@gotcrack96]

Late kick is the best

[@125henni]

Fr

[@yungbreezyatl]

Colin is a genius because he knows people say that Klatt schools him. This man gives the people what they what.

[@neneshubby]

Exactly right. I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Everybody comes on here and praises Klatt, but it’s Colin, the perceived villain that makes the segment. It’s like that in movies too. It’s always the villain that determines how good the movie is.

[@zachrizzo6525]

Klatt is the next Keith Jackson, Kirk Herbstreit. Colin knows this and it’s good for his image

[@jfox11000]

Colin is the joker in Batman

[@jimmy5634]

Wow …what a genius. 🤡

[@yungbreezyatl]

@@jimmy5634 I’d love to hear your argument, but i believe that colin knows that joel’s image in these videos is what produces the amount of views that it gets. I also think Colin may make outrageous takes from time to time for a better and more entertaining watch. I dont think he lacks that much self awareness, i think he probably knows very well what he is doing.

[@Clipperdude123]

Klatt is the best thing to happen to this show since… well… ever

[@A1LlamaBoy]

Not even a big college football fan at all, but Klatt & Colin has become my favorite sports segment. I watch them and I leave feeling like I know so much more about the sport because of Klatt’s take.

[@maxwellmclaughlin6538]

Nice of Father Klatt to plan the visitations to his son every week. I hope I can be as good of a father to my son as Klatt is to Cowherd.

[@Datdudetd46]

Klatt deserves an extra special Father’s Day this upcoming year from Colin

[@herkyj]

Father Klatt makes it sound like he’s a man of the cloth.

[@chaseglenn9206]

I love this segment so freaking much

[@jordan12118]

Colin’s reaction to when Klatt said Wake Forest 😂😂

[@danielgc1970]

As a Texas fan since '76, I recognize a complete rebuild is necessary. I like Sark, be patient Horn's fans.

[@CrumbsLamond]

Strong was good too and had made huge strides... fired Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Charlie strong lose to Kansas? I mean Duke beat that same Kansas team by 20

[@danielgc1970]

@@CrumbsLamond Yes, Texas lost to Kansas his last season. And I agree with what you said about good progress being made. But it wasn't enough soon enough. In a way, I'm glad Texas is struggling so much Sark's first year. He's spending his honeymoon wisely in my view. Hook'em

[@butterbackup3270]

As an OU fan I’d say the same, UT has been nothing short of disappointing season after season, there is no reason to give up this early. But that quote after the game he gave about him still having the locker room was very concerining

[@patrickbooth5091]

Texas is not back. Will never be back. Horns down

[@ryanmccolloch14]

@@CrumbsLamond yes Charlie strong did lose to Kansas and got fired for it

[@jordanlinn7241]

Joel is without a doubt a college football expert.

[@detectif1061]

he’s still biased and won’t admit the sec is king.

[@jeremygermain6162]

@@detectif1061 ha besides the top who ya got Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, the roosters? Oh scary

[@sirzechsazazel1150]

@@jeremygermain6162 This. People judge the SEC based on Bama and Georgia when they might genuinely be the weakest conference from the middle down.

[@mbdg6810]

@@jeremygermain6162 exactly LOL

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

Everybody who follows college football is a college football expert and none of them are.

[@robbieray9164]

Weekly petition to have klatt on for the entire show on Wednesday

[@UncleRicoOSU]

Joel should just adopt him already. Colin needs a strong father figure in his life.

[@SaintClovis]

I keep seeing this father-son joke about Colin and Joel, what's the background on that? Where/how did that originate?

[@TheBigWI93]

@@SaintClovis joel Klatt has in the past just completely owned Colin on some topics. So the comment section started calling Joel, Colins Dad. Its become a meme for all of us. Hop in. Waters fine 😃

[@noirterror3457]

😂😂😂😂

[@waytoodrew1792]

Best segment of the show

[@voltgod]

Another great KlattColin chat! I don't even care about college ball, but am still thoroughly entertained by Klatt's visits on the show. Just about as good as it used to be with Rob Parker!

[@mikepattison4453]

If we're applying this logic to Michigan/Michigan State then why aren't we applying it to Oregon/Ohio State?

[@Wtwuas]

B10 schedule is harder than P12 schedule this year

[@timmatzke619]

@@Wtwuas but H2H..

[@paulcampbell8696]

@@Wtwuas yes but you just ignored the point...

[@iXiuxe717]

Oregon is ranked higher than The Ohio State. Sooooooooooo what are you talking about

[@KimbroughFilms]

@@iXiuxe717 he’s saying if Michigan is ranked above MSU then Oregon should be ranked behind OSU…

[@ZWAmundson]

This is the greatest duo. Look forward to it every week.

[@kindsir0077]

The power 5 conferences play a much tougher schedule than the G5.

[@Beenman2210]

That’s already accounted in. We already know a P5 team will always be ranked ahead of G5 teams with the same record but then when we get into P5 teams with 1 or 2 losses more being ranked of undefeated G5 teams then it’s like cmon, the group of 5 teams are already playing an unfair game to begin with we can’t know change the rules because Cincinnati got that top 10 out of conference win the committee always talked about and the field is open enough to let them in

[@kindsir0077]

@@Beenman2210 I would take a 7-3 SEC or Big10 team over a 9-1 American team. Recruiting just isn’t even close it’s harder to win in elite conferences. A win is not just a win their is nuanced to it Losing to Georgia by 3 points is more impressive than beating Toledo by 3. And if not people shouldn’t complain when Bama plays garbage can state, because a win is a win.

[@greenearth975]

@@kindsir0077 I think the main frustration is that often the branding takes more importance over the actual merits. For example LSU has been objectivly awful this year but brand of LSU means Alabama gets a pass while others playing similar levels of competiton are not. Really im of the perspective you have to take all of the names out to evaluate fairly.

[@johnm3489]

Big XII and PAC 12 are garbage.

[@jb7604]

Nah

[@Beenman2210]

Head to head should be the tiebreaker for teams with the same record like it is in every other sport.

[@jamesureel2853]

It is the tiebreaker for conference championships but there’s more that goes into it. For example msu has a great win over Michigan even though Michigan looked like the better team for 55 minutes of 60. Michigan only loss is a good loss. MSU loss is godly awful. Especially since EVERYONE said they’d lose to them and they still came out flat and trailed the entire game

[@Beenman2210]

@@jamesureel2853 I understand Michigan has a higher SOR, game control, offensive and defensive efficiency, and more forgivable loss than Michigan state but the goal of every team is to win the game not have more yards more time of possession have higher advanced analytics the goal is to win and the committee diminishes the importance of the games all these players are giving their all for by saying “games don’t matter. Michigan has better analytics than a team that beat them so they’re going to be ranked ahead”

[@jamesureel2853]

@@Beenman2210 they didn’t say games don’t matter. They literally ranked msu 3rd after beating Michigan. They jumped from 9th to 3rd and dropped Michigan from 6th to 7th. Only for MSU to turn around legitimately lose a bad game the following week. MSU wins against semi solid opponents this year is why they were behind Michigan to begin with. They’ve almost lost a couple and could have legit been 4-3 5-2 going into the Michigan game. When you lose a bad game to an unranked opponent you deserve to drop considerably. Iowa went from like 2nd to 12th after losing to Iowa in a similar dominant fashion. The committee was more than accommodating only dropping to 9th. Can’t help that Michigan won its following game and was only 4 spots behind you. Personally idc that Michigan is legit one spot ahead or if they were one spot behind. Both would be reasonable but it does make sense and isn’t that unreasonable for Michigan to be ranked one spot ahead.

[@jamesureel2853]

@@Beenman2210 also had MSU blown Michigan out or dominated most of the game then the margin wouldn’t have been so thin and I’m sure Michigan would be behind them. But all things considered close loss on the road to a top 10 team means they were already really close. Then MSU dropped the ball to an unranked opponent and Michigan has the better sor and statistics. It’s just being salty at this point just to be salty

[@Beenman2210]

@@jamesureel2853 you’re talking about different rankings though. You can’t compare Michigan state going from 9th to third because that was also the week it switched from the AP poll to the committee rankings. Ik the Michigan Michigan state debate will resolve itself next week but even in this extreme case that Michigan is better in every metric and lost on a fluke win really you still gotta respect head to head for teams with the same record because that’s the goal of the game, to win. The committee has done it before to with the last time Michigan state made the playoff. We all knew that teams record was better than they really were and they won on the flukiest of wins over Ohio state but they did win so the committee gave them the edge due to head to head. It’s frustrating to watch each year’s committee have different criteria than the previous years

[@rodneysciba3152]

My favorite sports conversation of the week!

[@nikhilyerva6663]

Fav segment every week!

[@zebrajenks]

Riley is locked in a 6 year contract that he signed last year worth $45.2 million, he is, what, 36 years old? He could retire rich AF in his early 40's.

[@spidaman0112]

He could be offered 6 years at 75mish

[@ryanmeyer3668]

Not to mention Lincoln is currently building an awesome house around Norman the CEO of AT&T and the owner of loves gas station and a donor was just recognized for his life time donation at OU of over 150 mil we can pay him if we need to lol

[@camthesooner123]

Riley isn’t leaving Oklahoma. We keep our coaches around, why leAve a place you just built a massive house? Your neighbor is Trae Young and your close to Demarco Murray? Where you have a top 5 2022 class and the 1st 2023 class? To go to a dumpster fire that you’ll get fired from if you don’t win a natty

[@spidaman0112]

@@camthesooner123 for a chance to win a natty

[@zebrajenks]

@@camthesooner123 exactly

[@siddharthjadhav4945]

Nice to see Colin have a weekly chat with his dad

[@foodieferdiedmaniac420]

Don’t get happier than happy 😂😂😂great quote

[@alexmartiez5195]

I wait all week for this segment 👌🏽

[@tavianthomas4402]

Klatt interrupting Colin to tell him he can't see him on a horse was killing me 😂😂 "I can't at all, actually"

[@markgriffin5889]

Here is what I can say about the "Golden Domers": ND needed 18 fourth-quarter points to beat Toledo at home - by three points. Toledo is now 6-5 after beating a 3-8 Ohio University (my alma mater) on Tuesday. This was a good convo, guys. Klatt is the best reference for the playoff-caliber teams.

[@jasonthompson8147]

I am a Norte Dame fan and we don’t belong in the playoff this year. Not at all really based on our playoff performances.

[@Milkmilkmilk425]

I mean ND was not good early in the season but they have gotten alot better

[@GBU61]

ND is like Oklahoma. Both may do enough to get in, but every time they get beaten handily. I would rather see Cincinnati or even Oklahoma State get in than ND.

[@camthesooner123]

Tbh every good team has had a couple games where they struggled against lesser opponents. Alabama to Texas A&M and Florida Oklahoma to Nebraska Tulane WVU and others. And I could go on. The one team who hasn’t is Georgia. This year just doesn’t have a lot of dominate football teams.

[@camthesooner123]

@@GBU61 Oklahoma is better than ND

[@Xierdan]

Best segment every week.

[@samuelokelly4941]

This is must see TV ! Best commentary on Tv and Certainly the most entertaining, not long enough !! I agree should be an hour !!

[@TheKvarg]

I always look forward to these Klatt Cowherd videos

[@Phoenix96886]

Weekly father and son therapy session.

[@js8281]

Respect to Colin for mentioning Oklahoma State. I'm an OU fan and I've known they were the best team in the Big 12 for about a month. They are for real and should be #7-8 rn in my opinion Also he's right about Michigan. They have played the rest of their schedule much better than MSU

[@JH-sb2kz]

Best college sports commentary..by far way better than ESPN.

[@ClutchProximity]

People hate on Colin. But I genuinely enjoy watching him talk sports more than anyone else. Also Joel Klatt is just great 😂

[@scruffd0g193]

By far and away the best CD segment of the week

[@CrumbsLamond]

Duke beat Kansas by 20. I don't want to hear any excuses for Texas losing to Kansas at home

[@derek85581lj]

I’m glad they do a weekly segment instead of having their own show like people say, I think that’s what makes it special.

[@lokigr]

This is my favorite segment of all fox sports programming

[@spencergrigg8720]

Thank you Joel for explaining this basic concept to Colin.

[@printingthepokedex2636]

MORE KLATT

[@SleepyGrapes]

Klatt has to be colins best seasonal guest idc what anyone else he brings on has to say about college football

[@Nocturnal_Icon]

Joel and Colin would have such a great podcast

[@bobbyclark8239]

Going to the ou vs Iowa game this weekend 1st time I’ve gone in 11 years... gotta admit little worried about them losing

[@tgalloway7764]

Saban left LSU, Is Joel saying that Miles and O should not have been fired? Both would have been fired by any top program after the issues with Title IX cane out plus their off field problemsi.

[@rktsnail]

I love the cowherd klatt back and forth

[@alienhead1184]

I agree with Colin here surprisingly

[@jimsomerville3924]

Colin's been on fire the last couple weeks.

[@maxton-_-4243]

I can’t believe people don’t like Colin man he’s awesome 🤣

[@Blizznor]

Joel Klatt is America’s sweetheart

[@kharilane1340]

10:19 When Klatt said that about decimation my ears perked up. We get the term decimation from the Roman legions. When a legion became mutinous or cowardly, the Roman generals had decimation in their punishment arsenal. The legion was divided into units of ten men and those men drew lots among themselves. Whoever drew the short straw would then be BEATEN TO DEATH by the nine remain men in the unit. Decimation literally means removal of a tenth. Its college football, so it's not a life-or-death issue, but Klatt was absolutely correct to use that term to describe what coaches have to do in a rebuild situation.

[@AmericanSpartan]

What does best loss mean? A loss is a loss.

[@treywilloughby3046]

Two teams have similar ranking and records. One lost to Georgia and the other lost to Navy….which loss is worse?

[@EricSaysQUACK]

This is among the best duos in discussing CFB. Colin and Joel compliment one another perfectly.

[@michaelballard676]

College football needs a playoff system that doesn't rely on a certain group of people's flawed opinion of who "deserves" a spot or not.

[@caglesbagels2171]

Unfortunately that’s what the CFP wants... more subjectivity and discussion as a result. We need auto bids and more teams.

[@zacharybeeson7211]

We got this because fans whined about the BCS

[@OSU2010]

OSU played Top 10 Oregon, Top 20 Purdue, top 20 Penn State, top 10 M state, top 10 Michigan, and maybe a top 15 Wisconsin in champ game. If they win out better be ranked 2. Then go on to play maybe 2 more top 4 teams. This will be the greatest champ run ever if they win it all

[@scottkellogg2180]

Klatt is arguably the best analyst in all of sports.

[@natethegreat1999]

This reminds me of my constitutional studies class at OU. I would make a somewhat decent claim that wasn’t backed up by much evidence that spurred on great commentary by my professor. I was Colin my professor was Joel😂

[@juansaenz4113]

GOAT Klatt

[@Tmb31]

Lol Love this segment. I’ve seen Joel on other segments all across Fox Sports and otherwise. None of them are interesting. These two are great together 🔥.

[@HotspurFC-cu6ny]

So nice for Klatt to visit his son

[@Teddypain20]

My favorite father/son tv combo

[@danielharris7533]

The Canadian "yaah" killed me 🤣

[@Maize_n_Whiskey]

On the UM vs MSU comment it was a 4 pt game on the road in a game in which 4 points were taken off the scoreboard and the B1G came out and said they messed up. Michigan deserves the spot ahead IMO.

[@RickSanchez167]

This

[@rorylynch5466]

Fax 📠

[@troyboy811]

You can just say head to head doesn't matter. Why we're faulting officials for Michigan blowing a 16 point lead with 3 minutes left in the third quarter is asinine to me. Wasn't the refs getting outscored 23-3 to close the game out. Also, 3 points were taken off the board if we're going to play the hypothetical game. Still have to kick the extra point. People have missed extra points before, so according to your hypothetical, unproven logic where what actually happened on the field doesn't matter, they still could have lost. It's pathetic and irrelevant. Michigan lost.

[@lonothegod1876]

How many non-calls happened in the Michigan v Michigan St game? That may shine some light on rankings between the two schools. Also, didnt the Sparty Rb fumble the ball before be broke the plain of the end zone? idk i was jus wondering why that wasnt looked at more.

[@plumtiger1]

Head to head should always take priority

[@tunjitube17]

Klatt Daddy!!!!!!

[@nicksnuffulupulos6122]

Please make this an hour.

[@justintallman3398]

Ngl, Wednesdays with Klatt are the best.

[@FirstLast-rd6hw]

A 1 loss Big12 champ (OU/OSU) should get in over: A 1 loss Pac12 champ. A 2 loss B1G non champ A 2 loss SEC non champ Notre Dame.

[@camthesooner123]

Facts

[@ftb3817]

If the 2 loss big 10 team Michigan you know how they get there sacks fondled

[@kingdaymon6433]

I hope Cincy gets in just so I can hear Ohio State fans do their yearly whining about how they should have gotten in.😂😂

[@davidburkholder7360]

Ohio State when it is all said and done will end up playing at least 4 top 10 teams. Cincy has played how many top 10's? As an Alabama fan I think you are just a bit off kilter here. For that matter even Alabama has a pretty weak schedule compared to Ohio State. Having said that I'd be fine with Cincy getting in even though they have only played 1 top 10 team. Good luck with it.

[@kingdaymon6433]

@@davidburkholder7360 I don't have a problem with Ohio States team and I do agree they probably should be in this year. I just enjoy hearing the fans be outraged every single time that they dont make the playoffs even when they clearly dont deserve too.

[@mdemmons1]

If Ohio State wins out they will be in, if not they don't deserve it. Cincy has nothing to do with it.

[@detectif1061]

ill admit the big 10 is tough this year which is rarely the case, sec is pretty weak the last few years.

[@ulgmoepretty8195]

Lmao

[@osvaldomateo5853]

I like how Colin told Joel about Michigan and Michigan State ranking . One team has a humiliating loss.

[@jesskelley4726]

At Purdue is a horrible loss ? Yea don't agree

[@Antonio_Todd]

What about Oregon loosing to a 6 loss Stanford team? Why is no one mentioning this?

[@theodoredodge]

I really like the dynamic between Klatt and Cowherd; Klatt also brings the goods meaning has research to backup his arguments; maybe he's also a little jaded and I, as a Michigan fan, feel partially responsible. He's gotten on the Wolverine bandwagon and been humbled. We/Michigan sometimes get overrated, or lose to teams that are ranked. But I feel are coaching staff is now elite, innovative, and makes players better.

[@camthesooner123]

You guys almost always lose to teams that are ranked.

[@drakebrady174]

LSU is quick to fire but Ed did absolutely nothing to help his case messing about the town hitting on boosters wives i love Ed but come on

[@TheDaringPastry1313]

The team that Bama lost to keeps losing and it doesn't seem to ever hurt Bama.

[@detectif1061]

it’s bc the sec always beats each other up, a&m would beat cincinatti by 2 td’s.

[@TheDaringPastry1313]

@@detectif1061 all conferences beat each other up

[@TheDaringPastry1313]

@@detectif1061 Another problem with that statement is that there has been so many massive upsets this year? 20 + unranked teams beating ranked teams ... You really can't make that claim when A&M has been sketchy.

[@justinbrosious6601]

SEC is overrated

[@ChrisSmith-rm1wj]

keeps losing? they beat bama and lost one game since to #12 Tx A&M would beat ND and Cincy and UTSA like a drum

[@daveclough3998]

So per joel, and i LOVE joel, if one team beats another team there is NO way that losing team can go ahead of that winning team regardless

[@daveclough3998]

Makes no sense to me

[@SG-ym1dm]

Not what he said. If two teams have the same record and they have played each other, that game should matter more than others.

[@carlpop2324]

Colin is right about Michigan. Klatt is looking at the one game. Colin is looking at the full season.

[@alexcarper6749]

Ok, Joel Klatt just speaks facts...

[@chrismcbrayer4018]

How do they not have an hour long segment yet?!

[@kamryncollins2803]

I don’t listen to klatt, I don’t listen to cowherd.. but I listen to this every week .. they blend together well on college ball

[@philgod420]

Klatt nailed it on the head with my Horns. We need serious players on our team.

[@TheDaringPastry1313]

SMU might give Cincinnati some trouble this week.

[@jacobsizemore9428]

This should be it’s own show.

[@cheechorino3710]

That take on the U is an underrated take that looking at it makes sense the U hasn’t felt like the U since they left the orange and watching them on the road at fsu they can’t be great like how fsu was until they build the culture up again

[@carisi2k11]

Currently 20 teams with a 1 loss record. If by the end of the season there are 7 x 1 loss teams then give the number 1 overall a bye and have the other 6 play each other (2v7, 3v6, 4v5). Out of those 3 the lowest ranked team plays the number one and the other 2 play each other and then the national championship the week after.

[@bourboncask4089]

These two not having a podcast together is a crime.

[@thomascook5804]

Colin needs to remember that 08 Utah team was the lone undefeated team in CFB that year.

[@plutobaby9996]

Rip young dolph mane

[@bukithegreat]

joel slatt🐍

[@Anicento]

Looking forward to the day UTSA is mentioned on one of these segments

[@kalipooh3388]

Stop it

[@Anicento]

@@kalipooh3388 10-0 my friend

[@christophershannon8734]

We got chaos coming the next 3 weeks.

[@toadstkr]

Love it when these guys get together one second they’re Road Runner and Wiley Coyote and the next they’re the 2 old guys in the balcony of the Muppet show

[@dylanbair8149]

Klatt not a fan of the Bern. Didn’t know I’d get that info out of this segment

[@JamersonHayden]

Makes him even more respectable

[@ryanmeyer3668]

Funny enough Lincoln is currently building an awesome recruiting mansion around Norman!

[@camthesooner123]

Next door to Trae Young and down the street from Demarco Murray

[@richardmorrisette8316]

Don’t sleep on East Carolina. We play Cincy at home last game of the year on ABC. 👀👀👀

[@tjayd1225]

I’m not even huge into college ball like that but how is Colin trying to argue Michigan over Michigan state when they literally beat them 😂 if the games don’t matter then why even play the games just grade recruiting and go off Vegas odds

[@jessetrapp8949]

Well his argument is pretty good if you watch the game you'd understand what he was saying and the fact that the Big 10 came out and said they literally took six points off the board in a mistake at the end of the half for Michigan and considering Michigan's kicker has never missed an extra point in his entire collegiate career you got a pretty good argument that Michigan is the better team. I also agree with everything you're saying though if the games don't matter then what the hell's the point just more of a reason we need a bigger playoff for this sport

[@kingdaymon6433]

Colin's arguments are usually based on what school is more popular.

[@XBoilermakerX]

Little shoutout to University of Louisiana Monroe beating bama that one time. Gotta love it. Go Warhawks!

[@lifeofbrandon_]

Is it humiliating to lose to Purdue or lost to the team that lost to Perdue

[@troyboy811]

I wouldn't even be particularly upset about this logic if Michigan had played and beaten Purdue, but they didn't. Purdue is the best team either Michigan or Michigan State have played besides when they played each other. Maybe Michigan beating Wisconsin is better, but that was back when Wisconsin was losing to everybody.

[@detectif1061]

yes.

[@stillrunning31]

Unless you have lived in Cincinnati, you have no idea how mind-blowing it is the UC is ranked #5. Just 20 years ago, the program was at the UMass level. It would be like if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won the Super Bowl

[@_FMSL_]

colins weekly lesson

[@PastorTrue93]

Its wild to me that Miami cant recruit their own backyard. They had Bridgewater & Lamar right there and they let them go all the way to Louisville? Not to mention dudes like Devonta Freeman, Hollywood Brown...etc. All the OGs like Ed, Ray, Portis, Irvin, Sapp need to get together and rebuild this program.

[@kingdaymon6433]

I have no idea why Miami isn't consistently one of the top programs in the nation. There's no way schools like Alabama and Clemson should be running laps around Miami the way they are.

[@sirjer73]

@@kingdaymon6433 Agreed but those are large state like universities with deep pocket boosters at schools that are ALL in!!!! South Florida on average produces the most NFL talent but the logistics aren't great and the administration isn't all in.

[@kingdaymon6433]

@@sirjer73 exactly I think if Miami went all in like those schools did they would be even better. Unfortunately I don’t see them hiring a Nick Sabin or Dabo Sweeney anytime soon so they’ll keep being stuck in mediocrity.

[@demondwilliams7345]

The administration doesn't care to pay coaches in one of the most expensive places to stay in the country.

[@SnipeKing90]

Joel Klatt literally said during the Michigan/State game that the officiating was poor and he didn't think that fumble recovery for a TD would be overturned and was shocked lol now he don't care how it happened haha

[@AnonYmous-wf1oz]

Hes reading off a script to stir up controversy for clicks and tv ratings. He doesnt believe what hes saying, they're just milking the last week of this discussion before MSU gets throttled.

[@brycewilson1909]

i personally don't understand michigan being ranked ahead of michigan state but realistically one of us is gonna lose to OSU so it probably wont matter too much in the grand scheme of things.

[@detectif1061]

hope michigan beats em this year

[@Meedster08]

State might even lose to Penn State… we’re all just bickering over nothing