Joel Klatt talks College Football Playoff rankings, Jim Harbaugh vs. Top 25 teams I NCAA I THE HERD

With the college football playoffs around the corner, Joel Klatt joins Colin Cowherd to share his reactions to the CFP's first round of rankings, led by Georgia, Alabama, Michigan State, and lone Pac-12 representative Oregon. He breaks down on which teams stood out to him the most and those who were snubbed or ranked in a different spot. Klatt also analyzes why Jim Harbaugh struggles in matchups against high-ranked opponents, then shares his Top 10 list heading into Week 10. Did your team made the cut on the CFP's rankings?
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Joel Klatt talks College Football Playoff rankings, Jim Harbaugh vs. Top 25 teams I NCAA I THE HERD
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[@TheHerdOnFS1]

Listen to Out of Character: sprtspod.fox/OOC

[@donamicfarley7727]

Wwwwwwwwwwe trees

[@sameold5541]

Colin getting OWENED by Klatt as usual!!!

[@shabooiii795]

Why do you have a show with colin anymore. Just drop him and give Klatt the show.

[@randysnively3578]

Colin is clearly biased. He wants only BIG MARKET teams to be in college football playoffs. So all other teams dont matter no matter who they beat or what record they have. Klatt is right. Give everyone a chance like college basketball. It will be a lot more fun with more than 4 teams with a chance.

[@TheShadiestOne]

They need to give Klatt full custody of his son Colin. Not just Wednesday’s.

[@gregorydunston2952]

💀🤣

[@eamonmaloney381]

Colin being fought over in a divorce. His dreams have come true

[@baileyslife3469]

Hahaha finally an original klatt sons Colin joke , I’m fkn 💀 this was great

[@gaogaigarfinal6]

You could tell by collins first take that he is such a cfb casual

[@Patton750]

Best take so far.

[@youvebeenpwnt]

Joel Klatt working for a network that is not contracted to the CFP really allows him to be so candid about the committee's flaws and it's much appreciated

[@Raphell28]

Exactly. If he was working for ESPN, they would not allow him to be so constructive

[@marcusantonius6448]

Lol dude does the same for fox . Always over hyping Trash Big Ten teams and Big12 teams and craps on SEC team . Yal just be fans of teams that won't ever have a chance . That why yal wanting a 12 team playoff lmao. No one wants to watch SMU lose by 60 to Bama.

[@manmug183]

@@marcusantonius6448 someone's salty other ppl have different opinions than him. So lemme guess. We should all listen to you and not have our own minds, beliefs, or opinions eh? Kinda goes against most modern societies and I bet you preach the same stuff but then you turn around and speak this nonsense 😂

[@jamesdo8988]

Time for Colin’s weekly session with his father, let’s gooo

[@DarkestNight99]

Joel literally runs circles around & sons Colin on his own show & I can’t get enough of it.

[@cptsho4621]

This my favorite part of the show each week 😂

[@aaronkirkland5211]

Bro its the best lmao

[@onlookervb]

Think you misspelled lesson 😉

[@jsmithers.]

@@DarkestNight99 Nah Colin actually argued well in this segment.

[@newsk8jmoney]

I genuinely look forward to this every week. Should have their own podcast or something.

[@shannoncurl288]

Wednesday is Klatt on Herd day, couldn’t agree more!

[@ThaCrustyOne]

I hate to do it…but…….it’s….”their” 🤔

[@newsk8jmoney]

@@ThaCrustyOne fair enough 😂

[@nathanfleeger]

I would listen every week

[@colmdoyle8169]

Couldn't agree more! Colin is more interesting when he has someone push back.

[@farminstoltzfus]

Klatt's such a patient teacher

[@Hekfne]

Unfortunately his student Colin rides the short bus

[@scottnomore9489]

He learned all he knows from his Uncle Colin

[@richardmedley7574]

He is the most honest person that comes on this show.

[@farminstoltzfus]

@@Hekfne Colin is..... special

[@colmdoyle8169]

@@Hekfne Ahahaha!

[@KazzyOfficial]

Joel Klatt’s data analysis was incredible. No lie he absolutely crushed Colin in every single facet of this debate. That was impressive AF

[@davidjohnson5451]

100 % agree, tho, not tough to crush Colin. Alabama is 2 because it'll be damn near impossible to "keep them out" if they lose again.

[@Mayso45johns]

That’s Joel’s job. This isn’t a debate

[@marcusantonius6448]

Because this is literally Klatts "circle game".

[@alecwelker4353]

Joel Klatt is easily the best media personality when it comes to college football. Dude is always on point.

[@gabevinson4770]

@@davidjohnson5451 Or because they are the 2nd best team 🤔

[@kylesalomone4384]

This is why Joel Klatt is the best CFB analyst, he has the most detailed breakdown of the playoff and its flaws and distinct reasoning for his opinion instead if just saying “i want 8 teams”

[@todmentzer1117]

Agree

[@iamhuffman]

Except for his UofM and harbaugh bias

[@franklinking3600]

@@iamhuffman It's a BIG10 bias

[@ohiostate2752]

8 teams (whatever the motivation) wouldn't work. As soon as they expanded the playoff from 4 to 8....ESPN would adjust the preseason rankings to have 4 teams from the SEC in the top 10. 2 from the SEC West and 2 from the SEC East. Sec teams with 1 or 2 losses would get in ahead of 1 or 2 undefeated or 1 loss conference champs.

[@sanhitgutta32]

@@ohiostate2752 that’s why you have to guarantee conference champs a spot, it won’t be perfect but have to find a way to give a chance to these smaller school

[@tjayd1225]

Klatt usually does but holy sht he absolutely destroyed Colin today, at every turn and even between topic banter absolutely crushed him

[@edwardcoit9748]

Yes. I had to look away at some parts. It was like a theoretical physicist discussing the cosmos with an astrologer.

[@jsmithers.]

No..

[@brickfrog8834]

@@edwardcoit9748 Exactly. Klatt knows what he’s talking about and wants a fair system, but cowherd just wants to make everyone bow to his opinions of who is better based on recruiting stats rather than games. It seems like Colin would rather just skip the games and put a trophy in Alabama’s trophy case at the beginning of every season.

[@maxsthoughts6204]

I actually thought Colin made better points this time. Joel’s blind hatred for the committee makes him miss a lot of Colins points

[@travisoshea]

@@maxsthoughts6204 no he dosent.

[@ouyardbird5172]

Joel's face when Collin didn't know that penn state was un-ranked

[@willperrot4877]

Not even knowing the rankings, bush league

[@TheDrew4288]

Loved Klatt calling Colin out on mandates 🤣

[@colmdoyle8169]

Finally!

[@jsmithers.]

@@colmdoyle8169 Colin isn't for mandates...

[@colmdoyle8169]

@@jsmithers. Of course, preventing someone from being able to work, provide for their families, travel the country, enter shops, enjoy life, isn't a mandate, it's just consequences, right?! 🤡

[@treywilloughby3046]

@@jsmithers. lol cause he said so?

[@jsmithers.]

@@treywilloughby3046 He never said he is for mandates...Learn to listen.

[@whaddup5417]

Said it best in the last line. “Can you believe Tom has 8 Super Bowls?” Joel if it were up to the committee, he would.

[@88jaspersimmons]

No the committee would have given him 7. Add the 2 Giants superbowls, but take away the first one against the Rams and the last against the Chiefs.

[@mitchelllange5359]

Joel Klatt just took Cowherds lunch today this wasn’t even close to a debate, Klatt just owned him in everything

[@jsmithers.]

No...

[@venom8598]

Tbh no he didn’t. Joel was all about letting the deserving teams in which when the playoffs were being created they literally SAID they will put the 4 BEST teams in. Not deserving. Cincinnati would literally get curve stomped by bama and Georgia. Why would you want that?

[@mbdg6810]

@@venom8598 define "best" then. these teams at 5 or 6 can probably compete with one of the other four teams. not really a playoff when its an SEC or alabama/clemson/ohio state/notre dame/oklahoma (5 teams commonly taking spots in cfp and thus making it stale) invitatiional

[@venom8598]

@@mbdg6810 best teams are teams are obviously the best teams. Tell me who would win rn bama/Georgia/MSU/Oregon or Cincinnati? The answer is obviously. OSU already lost to Oregon and they have had a really easy schedule so for until they play msu and Michigan. The main argument for Joel and really anyone else is for Cincinnati cause they want a team like them to be in it. Why? Cause they want a underdog team like them to have a chance to win the natty. Which we all know they would lose and be sent home. If they could only score 20 on navy how many you think they would score on Georgia?

[@joelaton1062]

@@mbdg6810 They are invited, because they play the best ball. If other teams would step up, and recruit better, and develop players better, and upgrade facilities properly. As well as pay top dollars for coaches and coordinators, thus allowing teams to have stability, they could get in the playoff too. Besides, most years there is a gap between 1 and 2, and 3 and 4. Much less getting down to #6.

[@jacobduncan99]

Joel Klatt is amazing. This man deserves all the dollars. He truly cares about the health of the sport.

[@todmentzer1117]

Klatt's an excellent announcer. Intelligent and knows his football

[@heathburlison3016]

No he doesn’t lol. Every year he try’s to say teams like Oklahoma and Ohio state are better than Alabama/GA and they never are. I’m an auburn fan and it’s pretty clear every year Oklahoma is playing in an awful conference barely squeaking by headed for blowout losses in the playoffs. And just like last year when he tried to make a case for Ohio state it was clear Alabama was the best team in the country.

[@travisoshea]

@@heathburlison3016 think you have to listen to what he’s saying again and leave your biased opinion out. He’s right about Bama this year and he most absolutely gives Bama credit when it’s deserved.

[@mbdg6810]

@@heathburlison3016 think you have to listen to what he’s saying again and leave your biased opinion out. He’s right about Bama this year and he most absolutely gives Bama credit when it’s deserved.

[@Ortoreus]

Cowherd got absolute crushed in this segment.

[@stephenchilada]

I love Joel, always been a fan. His comparison of burden of proof in the cj system to college football is possibly my favorite take.

[@ColdBloodedProd]

Joel is so right about the college football playoffs and Colin is so wrong about them it baffles me. How can you say Cincinnati should be satisfied with a Fiesta Bowl win? That’s incredibly elitist just like Klatt pointed out.

[@mrwop]

Cincy shot themselves in foot with barely surviving navy and Tulane

[@midppgaming]

Cowherd knows he’s elitist (in his sports opinions) and admitted it already lol

[@punkydamonkey989]

honestly think Cincinnati should be in the the playoffs instead of freaking Alabama

[@zachrizzo6525]

He pretty much hates midwestern little guy underdogs. He’s a flashy coastal elitist

[@nicholasroot3729]

Colin is like any politician, NYC elitist, or anyone who moves to LA county, they hate everyone who they think is below them.

[@tufoinproductions]

"Do you know what a scoreboard is?" 😂😂😂 for some reason that got me

[@tylerschwab3474]

What Klatt said about the bell curve is very interesting and its crazy how often that's ignored in decision making in sports and life in general. If they had a committee of 30-40 people like Klatt stated, it would help dilute biases and you would get an overall better ranking 100% of the time.

[@shungokusatsulol]

Sooooo what your saying is let the coaches poll run the playoff. Tbh I would hate that idea

[@tylerschwab3474]

@@shungokusatsulol didn't say it would be coaches

[@shungokusatsulol]

@@tylerschwab3474 no you didn't, I was just pointing out that there's a poll that fits the description that Klatt ,and by extension you, were talking about

[@marcusantonius6448]

Yea because it works so well in politics (sarcasm)

[@juansaenz4113]

Best segment of the show. Love how Klatt just smiles and rolls his eyes when Colin says something ignorant about college football

[@CarsonClaws]

They need to expand the CFP to 8 teams ASAP

[@genghiskhan7041]

All conference champs should qualify, so there should be a 16 team bracket. The highest ranked teams get a bye the first round of the playoffs. Sound good? Then the little conferences wouldn't have a beef that they didn't have a chance.

[@fpanadero2626]

@@genghiskhan7041 Get rid of Conf. championships. Use the AP poll...

[@genghiskhan7041]

@@fpanadero2626 That's precisely the WRONG thing to do. Rankings are SUBJECTIVE. Do you think OPINION should determine who makes it to the playoffs, or results on the field?

[@whispererbordah4991]

Tbh I feel like they should let the conference champs of the power 5 in plus the best non power 5 conference team and the final two spots go to at large bids

[@dankrunner7190]

5 power conferences and 3 at large bids

[@cstrife999]

Klatt is just amazing. I also like how they argue and are genuine friends.

[@nick62301]

I would listen to Klatt explain accounting to me. Guys a genius and knows so much. #1 voice of college football

[@ParkinLotPimpin816]

Been waiting on this since I missed the show today. Papa Klatt!!

[@LaFlame1]

I don’t even watch college football but this is my favorite segment of the herd , the way these 2 interact is hilarious

[@nicholas7525]

Klatt literally teaching law class to Colin now I’m dead.

[@ub1237]

Joel klatt is kicking Colin's behind in this argument

[@jona.scholt4362]

Klatt is so right when he says Ohio State would be ranked higher if Oregon had two losses. Which is crazy on a logical level but in practice is true. He is also probably right that Bama may have been ranked lower if A&M had only one loss. So Ohio State is being held back by winning to a better team while Bama is getting ranked higher by losing to a worse team. It is totally nuts.

[@adrianbundy3249]

He really did show the hypocrisy of some of these people by pointing out the losses. I kept hearing all week "but if you have ohio state over oregon, then you are saying games do no matter. They played". Um, yeah, at the same point, they themselves are saying games do not matter. Ohio State didn't lose to Stanford. They lost to Oregon, a better team than a lol. Are we to then say now that Oregon losing to a really bad team should now not matter? These things aren't so easy to set aside. Both games should count, and it really should go to whole body of work. As it stands, with the PSU win, that should SLIGHTLY go to tOSU atm, but with the underwhelming performance, and Oregon FINALLY starting to seem better, they might lose that blessing from me soon.

[@cincydooley]

@@adrianbundy3249 With a healthy Clifford Penn State enters that game undefeated.

[@ClammyDrew]

"a lotta people don't care about speed limits"... true, and maybe too soon

[@nelsenp2014]

Way too soon. Dude has no boundaries and makes no sense

[@UncleRicoOSU]

Never too soon

[@tracyisbest]

Too bad Parker! Guy was going 156 before impact. Do these guys never learn? Did they learn nothing from Britt Reid? So many insane, selfish people on this earth. That's the problem. And no, IT ISN'T TOO SOON. Get thicker skin, dude!

[@nelsenp2014]

@@tracyisbest it’s not too soon to talk about it and how awful it was but he doesn’t need to take a slick joking shot like that. Talk about it seriously.

[@nelsenp2014]

@@UncleRicoOSU not too soon to discuss it seriously but he was clearly making a joke about it

[@iamsmarterthanme]

I can listen to Joel Klatt talk all day long… Such a smart dude!

[@matsushitathefifth2862]

Joel Klatt quickly becoming one of my favorite College Football analysts. Great takes with good evidence, and great arguments

[@huntermapes4803]

Love Joel Klatt as he is speaking facts and can actually prove why we need an expansion

[@joelaton1062]

He did not prove anything. Cincy has the 94th ranked strength of schedule. What does barely winning games against cupcakes prove? Those players knew when they went to Cincy, that they would not win a title. Same as every kid on a G5 team. You want to win titles, you go to real teams. Keep the G5 far away from the playoffs.

[@mbdg6810]

@@joelaton1062 is SOS reliable when its not a controllable measure? no, its not.

[@joelaton1062]

@@mbdg6810 What do you mean, when it is not controllable? It is what it is. They play in a G5 conference. There is not one quality win in their conference slate. What conference game would be a big win for Bama, or Ohio State? Why is that so hard to understand? I truly do not get this Cincy love, or the UCF love from a few years ago. Those games do not matter. There is no grind to their schedule.

[@joelaton1062]

@@mrblueberrysandwich Good to know the entire argument is based on one game. But then again, when that is all Cincy has, i guess you have to resort to that. There is not one other decent game, on the schedule.

[@ohioagainsttheworld676]

@@joelaton1062 I really enjoy how you're all acting like Cinci didn't beat a top 10 team, and that it didn't take godly Georgia 3 and a half quarters to put Cinci away in their major Bowl game last year. imagine that; nearly beating the team that's ranked #1 now, only to hear you're incapable of hanging with the "big schools."

[@claypennington602]

Klatt needs his own prime time show, call it whatever you want, his knowledge and intuition and ethics are all exactly what we need more of to preserve college football

[@rynemeloy9884]

“A lot of people don’t care about the speed limit” Colin outta pocket for that one 😂😂

[@Baxr]

It’s about time someone calling it what it is bravo Klatt

[@AlbinoMonkey96]

I see Klatt, I prep the video and go make a cup of tea. Easily the best segment every week.

[@GreenHornet1962]

This is by far my favorite segment of the show.

[@everythingfan9726]

Klatt is smart and Collin is unwilling to support change. Expand the playoffs, make more money, build better fan bases.

[@jackdavid7732]

week in and week out the best segment on the show

[@dettmannmedia]

Klatt is so good. Love listening to him breakdown college football.

[@33TimberWolf]

Always impressed with Klatt's ability to legitimize his argument with FACTS. He's a voice of reason in a sea of casinos, corruption, and betting aps.

[@thestow35]

The Herd with Colin Cowherd needs more Joel Klatt and less Colin Cowherd

[@krissteffen5652]

He keeps interrupting Colin. It’s great. Colin doesn’t watch as much college football as he used to.

[@brendanridgeway2524]

Or does Colin keep interrupting him & he’s just trying to reclaim the floor….

[@krissteffen5652]

@@brendanridgeway2524 obviously Joel felt his thoughts were better. And they were lol

[@joelaton1062]

@@krissteffen5652 For once, Klatt was being a idiot, and Cowherd made the valid points. It's like we are in a bizaro world. Cincy has the 94th ranked strength of schedule. Argument over. How does that weak of a schedule, prove anything? How can you not have one conference game, that would be considered a big win for Bama, Ohio State, etc? How can you play a whole season, in front of a high school stadium crowd, yet think it means the same as playing in front of rabid 100k seat SEC stadiums? It makes no sense to first off think Cincy deserves in. Or to want Cincy in.

[@frankwitty7855]

@@joelaton1062 There’s no excuse losing to a team you’re favored 19 points over..😂😂

[@leviprather1319]

@@joelaton1062 Boys I found him! I found the idiot Lmao

[@konquerer]

This may well be the best of their segments I've ever seen. Really great arguments about the playoffs

[@FlamingCalamari]

Klatt bringing the heat!

[@winstonlewis5630]

“Do you know what a scoreboard is” 😂😂😂

[@tufoinproductions]

I'm telling you that got me 😂😂😂

[@Thomascoleman95]

This was actually a good conversation. ESPN would never allow a real thought or debate that isn’t inflammatory! Haha

[@GuyBrackett]

THANK YOU Joel Klatt for being the voice of reason in College Football! There is no logical or reasonable defense for the current rankings. Alabama has all the advantages (recruiting, schedule, facilities) and should be held to a higher standard, not given a BAILOUT when they lose! A loss by the mighty Alabama to an unranked team should drop them further in the rankings. The rankings are just the money in college football telling us they are going to do what they want and telling the players that it doesn't matter if they win or lose... you are always second to Alabama and Ohio State regardless of wins and losses.

[@joelaton1062]

First off, A&M is ranked. That team is loaded with 4 and 5 star talent. So it is not like Bama lost to Vanderbilt, or Kansas, or a nobody G5 school. Second off, Bama built those advantages. They upgraded those facilities. They hired the allowed limit of analysts. They emphasize recruiting. Is Cincy? Look how many P5 teams, have been average to mediocre, their entire existence. Why are they not spending the money to take their program to the next level? Plus, those kids at the G5 schools, the majority of which did not have P5 offers, or could even see the field for teams like Bama. You really think they go to a nobody school, and have national title on the brain. They knew going to them that those teams do not matter. Those schools do not put the resources into the programs to make them better. So yes, they are second to Bama or Ohio State. As they should be. They need to split the G5 into their own league, so they can have their own playoff. They just do not belong in the same mix.

[@ohioagainsttheworld676]

@@joelaton1062 understandable, but that's not how it works. rankings aren't retroactive. A&M was unranked when they beat Bama, and beating Bama is the only reason they're ranked now. it's a wonder Stanford isn't ranked too.

[@herkyj]

Did Klatt just bust out a criminal justice reference, and it was accurate.

[@tyreesetoomer13]

Colin is wilding for that 😂6:06

[@thenestcpd]

I could not agree more and the back-and-forth between them is very natural and very good.. As a graduate of the University of Colorado it's nice to see Joel Klatt doing as well as he's doing

[@matthewboylez34]

This is a perfect dynamic between a person with common sense and an SEC homer with blinders on.

[@ohioagainsttheworld676]

literally just glosses over it any time someone mentions how specific SEC teams are ridiculously overrated. "well..... yanno...... #17 isn't that high..... NEXT SUBJECT"

[@ajrivera1993]

Joel Klatt didn’t come to mess around. Straight business and checking Cowherd

[@Clipperdude123]

16-minutes of father-son bonding

[@anthonydigrazia1126]

I gotta say that this is the one segment I like to watch/listen to. It’s nice to see unbiased talk and arguments with real stats and facts

[@juanvasquez6535]

Colin is so predictable. He's always going to be in support of the status quo. He is an authoritarian and Joel is just tired of so he's just saying it now.

[@franklinking3600]

Colin was annihilated on this set

[@hybridis586]

As a Cincy fan I love Joel Klatt and how he tries to understand college football the goods and the bads, the real and the fake. I know Alabama is better than us. But that shouldn't mean that we are immediately discounted even if we do what we were ask to do, win. I hope the playoff expands or they come up with some other alternative because what we want is a chance not to take someone spot away. We just want the city of Cincinnati or Memphis or UTSA or Houston to have a chance.

[@dinhnguyen2110]

Alabama is better than you guys in a 100 game series. For a single game, I think that gap is seriously narrowed. I think every ranked team is relatively beatable without needing a miracle, except for perhaps Georgia, right now.

[@hybridis586]

@@dinhnguyen2110 Alright relax like I said I know Alabama is better than us. If we played a hundred times I'm sure we would win only like 10-15 games. But that doesn't mean teams and kids that have played their hearts out on the field and won football games should be discounted or ignored.

[@cincydooley]

@@dinhnguyen2110 What impresses you about georgias offense?

[@dinhnguyen2110]

@@cincydooley That they put up at least 30 points in every game so far except for Clemson. They are a consistent offense and an elite defense.

[@dinhnguyen2110]

@@hybridis586 That's what I said. I said, in a single game, I wouldn't rule out you guys winning it. I would rule out you guys winning a 100 game series.

[@jdnort6]

I literally only watch your show for this segment. I would LOVE to see more of you two together each week!

[@npierce14]

Best segment of the week every Wednesday I look forward to this

[@dannyvasquez2330]

I admire Joel Klatt's patience with this clown.

[@michaelturner1787]

Joel once again owns his son Colin for about 20 mins. Love it.

[@johngarza92]

Really fun to listen Klatt great perspective on the game!

[@cbryantbear6498]

I love Klatt!!!

[@921athletics]

Joel giving his son some tough love.....thats important

[@holt6092]

Joel Klatt needs something of himself, a strict every morning show would be awesome. I don’t know, but he needs something.

[@scottkellogg2180]

They need to bring Klatt on more man. Best sports analyst in the game hands down.

[@TMBales]

Klatt brings fire everytime, I like his perspectives on almost everything regarding cf

[@brianlane2834]

Klatt is unbelievable. The man makes great analogies and his point is always so clear. I definitely agree that an 8 team playoff is needed. Like what else can Cincinnati do to get in? The CFP is just a bunch of big name brands made by a committee made up of a bunch of cowards.

[@DoneDealAC]

Play big schools. Simple. Wake Forest has harder schedule than Cinci and still is lower ranked. Stop crying and play tougher teams.

[@jamesbarrick3403]

Okay we get an 8-team playoff. The arguments now increase to the next 6 teams that all think they are better than #8. That will solve nothing.

[@brianlane2834]

@@DoneDealAC they beat a very tough Notre Dame team on the road, and beat “big school” Indiana as well. You can’t hold it against Cincy that they’re not playing big enough schools when 8 games on their schedule are AAC games. If they’re 12-0 with some notable wins (Notre Dame, SMU, etc.) they deserve to get in no question.

[@brianlane2834]

@@jamesbarrick3403 I’m going to quote Klatt here. The scope is too narrow with just 4 teams. Look at the AP Top 25. There is a pretty significant drop off after #11. Expanding the playoff will allow successful teams outside of the power 5 (like a Cincinnati) to get in while also giving big brands like Alabama or Ohio State the chance to get in with a loss.

[@ohiostate2752]

@@brianlane2834 Incorrect.... Expanding the playoffs from 4 to 8 would only lead to ESPN adjusting their preseason rankings to have 4 SEC teams in the 8 team playoff. Included in the 8 team playoff would be.... The SEC Champ, The SEC runner up, the teams that finished #2 in the SEC West and East respectively. That would leave five conference champs fighting over the remaining 4 spots.

[@JPISME91]

Colin just taking L’s on this over and over

[@joelaton1062]

He actually made sense for once with this. Klatt has bumped his head, because normally he is the logical one.

[@Duuuval23]

Klatt is completely right on this!!!

[@UncleRicoOSU]

This hurts my brain. Just expand the playoffs already. It will never be perfect but this system is a joke.

[@joelaton1062]

Nah, they have gotten it right every year. It makes no sense wanting these nobody G5 teams in. We have had powerhouse programs in the playoffs, other then Washington and Michigan State, since 2014. I just do not get the expanding talk. Teams need to get better, not be gifted a spot.

[@kieoncoleman9810]

@@joelaton1062 Most of college football is recruiting though. Talent beats out x's and o's, and the recruiting game is really unfair. Expanding gives "deserving teams" a shot.

[@meat1880]

Love it when colins dad is on

[@MegaPaul1973]

I enjoy listening to a game that Joel and Gus are calling.

[@gavinpyle8654]

Klatt is incredible in these segments, love this whooping he gave Colin

[@Davis_Jr]

CFB playoff system is flawed. It’s all based on opinion. Can you imagine the NFL putting teams in playoffs based on the opinion of sports writers?? You have to make winning your conference mean something. No teams from the same conference should be in the CFB. You take the conference champ of the power 5 schools..3 wildcard teams and make a 8 team playoff

[@joshhiwatashi6555]

I thought the playoffs were all about 'earning' a bid. Earn spots by beating talented teams efficiently and lesser teams convincingly. Good teams are allowed to have bad games, bad teams are allowed to have a good game against talented teams. You lose to an unranked team, thats a bad loss and that should count heavier against you than losing by 3 to a equally ranked team. If Bama only wins by 3 against an unranked team, that should be a 'lesser win' in terms of comparing it to a blowout. In my opinion, people are making this harder than it needs to be.

[@venom8598]

But it’s not about the deserving teams it’s the 4 BEST TEAMS. Like tell me who would win RIGHT NOW bama or Cincinnati? Duhhh bama by a lot

[@marcusantonius6448]

These guys really want to see 12th seed BYU get 50 peiced by UGA or Bama

[@mbdg6810]

@@venom8598 then the issue is how you define "best" because clearly its amess

[@mbdg6810]

@@marcusantonius6448 nope. BYU is not like the 5-8 spots.

[@user-fc7kj2hv3w]

@@venom8598 you say that but they lost to A and M and I'd take Cincinnati over A and M

[@imthefunnyguy5467]

Colin's dad coming to his kid's work is always uplifting to see

[@stephenchilada]

Also, I appreciate the argument today. I saw the logic in both.

[@davidgonzlez5259]

I don’t think Joel has owned collin more than today 😂😂

[@jasonhauke9432]

KLATT SPEAKS FOR THE PEOPLE

[@kevanpatel5538]

Klatt is on point, expand the playoffs

[@yahoomcrazy]

12:40 greatest line of the show😂😂

[@ttd633]

Maybe a bad day for a speed limit analogy 😂

[@night_wolf6621]

10:17 Klatt with the fire 🔥

[@805kong1991]

Colin skipped right over that lol

[@academyofchampions1]

Best college football segment period. Cowherd and Klatt

[@damienbell3155]

That was awesome

[@kylecurry577]

One of the reasons I have really enjoyed “The Herd” for many years... back to the ESPN days is for the calm, rational & mostly objective sports talk. Agreed, expand the playoff system to 12 teams a la March Madness style. It will build season long interest & opportunity for multiple universities/colleges that they’re actually playing for something late in the season.

[@felixsantos9672]

Klatt was spot on. I want to see teams in the playoff that earned it with their play on the college field not with their play on the HS field (aka more 5 stars).

[@joelaton1062]

yet, the teams with the most 5 stars have been winning all the titles lately. So maybe the other teams, need to actually recruit better, verses being gifted a playoff spot they have not earned.

[@oiiihbeta]

@@joelaton1062 I think you’ve inadvertently summed up what’s wrong with the system. The teams with the most five stars keep winning championships because the teams that keep winning championships attract the most five stars. You say the other teams need to recruit better but how can you recruit better when you can’t offer the chance at a championship to the prospective recruits? “Hey come and play for us and I can guarantee you that if we go undefeated we WON’T get a shot at a national championship because we are a G5 school.” Some kind of sales pitch that is. How can schools try to advance their programmes when they aren’t even given a shot at the big prize?

[@KevinDB17]

I’m confused on why they didn’t bring up undefeated OU ranked 8th..?

[@mattbardales5861]

Favorite segments of the week

[@natron1973]

Props to Joel Klatt! Collin on the other hand... The man is not that smart. Lol

[@thomaswilliams7204]

Colin--have you forgotten the year UCF went undefeated and was left out of the playoffs? They beat Auburn easily in their bowl game. It would have been a blowout if McKensie Milton hadn't been so nervous in the first half and overthrew most of his passes. That year Auburn beat TWO of the four teams that did make it to the playoffs. Your idea that the games don't really matter is ludicrous. If it had any credence, Clemson would be in the final four.

[@aaronsmith1924]

Exactly. It’s really unhealthy for the sport that people with a platform like Cowherd are saying this

[@brian2440]

A better question would be if Cincinnati’s schedule isn’t good enough this year, why in the world was Clemson put in the playoffs in 2018 and 2019?

[@joelaton1062]

UCF, beat a 4 loss Auburn team, and somehow thought they were worthy. If you wanna play the what if game, what if Auburn's running back had not got hurt at the end of the Iron Bowl that year? He played against UCF, but Ray Charles could see he was not healthy. Plus Auburn got blown out by Georgia in the SEC championship. Also, besides that Auburn game, what regular season game would have been a big win for Bama or Ohio State that year? The answer is none of them. People get so upset about this, saying it is disrespectful to those teams. It is purely about the schedule. Elite teams get no credit when they play the OOC cupcakes. Why should a team get credit for a complete schedule full of them? The AAC only had 5 more players drafted as a whole conference that year, then Bama did by itself. Playing a schedule against teams with that much future NFL talent, has to mean more, then playing teams with like 1 future NFL player. It just does. Which do you think would be harder? But people want to overlook that for some crazy reason with the nobody teams.

[@brian2440]

@@joelaton1062 In 2017 Ohio State played 5 Top 25 teams, and 4 Top 15 teams and 3 Top 10 teams. Alabama played 3 Top 25 teams, only one of which was in the Top 15 and they lost that game. Alabama makes the playoffs over Ohio State. How in the world is this justified in 2017 where you’re basically saying 1 win is equivalent to 3 Top 15 wins?

[@joelaton1062]

@@brian2440 You watched both those teams that year, and did not think Bama was the better team? The game they lost against Auburn, they were a walking Mash unit. Most teams could not have got through the season, with the amount of injured players Bama had, much less Win a title. Plus Ohio State lost 2 games, one to Iowa, and one to Oklahoma. That is pretty self explanatory.

[@johnpace1131]

I really enjoyed that little debate!

[@BUILTDIESELMAFIA]

Klatt is right. Its time to expand to 12 immediately.

[@hyperrat12]

Michigan over OU is actually a smack in the face. They haven't beat anyone either, but on top of that, they lost.

[@masonneal3893]

they beat wisconsin whose ranked in their rankings while oklahoma barely beating kansas lol

[@joshuafairless7342]

@@masonneal3893 they have a common opponent in Nebraska and OU beat NU worse then Michigan did. Also Wisconsin is trash and if you’re hanging your hat on that win well then you’re just ignorant. Oh and last but not least Michigan has a loss hahaha!! Doesn’t matter anyways OU wins and they’re in!!

[@leowiley8849]

I know there is a large bowl of crushed ice so Joel Klatt can heal his hands after smacking Collin around

[@Supersmashmike101]

Gotta love joel

[@davidburkholder7360]

Without question Klatt is the best in the business. Total professional and is never trying to be important. Gus Johnson and Klatt best duo in the business in calling a game. No doubt about it.