Joerg: What was he thinking?

[@Slingshotchannel]

Very cool video! I loved to see the groups you were getting, and the speed shooting was even better. One of the best things about this project is that now, I don't have to keep coming up with new features all by myself anymore. It took me almost three years to arrive at this point, starting from my very simple first Instant Legolas device in 2017. Just imagine what thousands of talented medieval bowyers would have developed from this, over the course of a few hundred years. I am sure they would have made it so much better. Faster reloading, easier attachment, mass production optimizations... probably all it would have taken is a simple first proof of concept model. While I have no doubts that the SIL would have been a success once on the way, I keep thinking "how would I have marketed the idea in the middle ages". Keep in mind no internet, no TV, no radio, no print magazines. How do you get that FIRST army using it? I am fairly sure that it would have been unstoppable afterwards. Even ground breaking inventions need a clever marketing strategy to succeed, and I am not even sure if you can call the SIL "ground breaking". In fact, now that we have the internet, and also we have all those firearms regulations, maybe the SIL will change modern archery more than it would have changed medieval archery. We will find out! Can't wait to what you will come up with! It is all about THE FEATURES.

[@tods_workshop]

I used to be a product designer way back and I used to think that one person can get an idea 95% of the way, but if you want better then you have to bring in others to refresh and review and to build from each others ideas and this is that same process, you are right. Ideas and products moved and were adopted because they worked, so marketing was basic in that sense; (for example) if helical flights worked, helical flights got used all over after a while. There is much discussion about how and if the device would have replaced a longbow or a crossbow, but at present, and my view may change, I see crossbows staying in the role they had. A longbow is a cheap, simple, powerful and flexible weapon with a generally high enough rate of fire given physical effort to shoot it and the limited amount of ammunition available whilst on campaign so I don't see its role much changed. However I do see a role for the SIL in certain circumstances where a high rate of shooting is a must and there it could excel. But my musings are to come.......when I show you its features!

[@_aullik]

How is there no playlist for the Instant Legolas on your channel? Would be awesome if you could add one.

[@Hin_Håle]

Lady Marion: I've come to warn you. Prince John and Rottingham have hired murderers to kill you at the fair tomorrow. You mustn't go! Jörg: Well that's easy, I won't. Lady Marion: Oh. I'm sooo happy. They were going to lure you there by having an archery contest. Jörg: AN ARCHERY CONTEST?

[@tsmspace]

I just REALLY want to get my comment in,,, that the second bow could be LONGER, if it were like the japanese bow and skinny on the top to let it be really long.

[@Doeff8]

Hi Joerg & Tod! Marketing in the medieval times went by word of mouth. So if you made a nice working design, and got a few knights interested, you would have a lot of work. It was simple as that. You would be made the lords smith/bowmaker or something.

[@phale426]

2:08 "Sights, huh? Always thought they were overrated" *pans to reveal a perfect 3-inch group* Tod's comedic timing is underrated.

[@jacobahn9998]

This is the most I've ever seen Todd smile

[@NUSensei]

The repeating bow tends to do that to everyone. Might be a Joerg thing.

[@coryman125]

@@NUSensei His contagious laugh has somehow leaked into his very engineering, causing all who hold his creations to at least smile

[@TheSeanoops]

I think it’s a man thing. We get our hands on a cool, dangerous new toy, and we get a giant smile on our faces.

[@tods_workshop]

I did it once in 2012....Seriously though, NUSensei has it right. It does that to you

[@Slingshotchannel]

@@tods_workshop You have no idea how much I like that. Makes me so proud.

[@joshuaa7813]

I love how youtubers like Shad, Jeorg, and Todd don’t jealously guard their fan base, but frequently recommend others they find interesting. They are helping to create a community of people who love to learn.

[@josephbjork4787]

Amen to that.

[@AOMartialArts]

Fact!

[@wigglytuffgaming]

Modern History TV as well

[@BlackSlimShady]

I never really see youtubers "jealously guard" there fan base? Most youtubers know that all there subs can be subs of multiple channels...

[@tods_workshop]

I think it simply allows us to get more in depth on things that interest up, but in a way that helps carry the audience

[@M3L0619]

CO: “What’s you firearm of choice?” Navy Seal: “A Semi-Automatic Long Bow” CO: “What?” Navy Seal: “What?”

[@jjtomecek1623]

Technically it's a pump action longbow, but yes

[@alexsanchez1620]

@@jjtomecek1623 its not a pump though its a pull

[@diamondflaw]

​@@alexsanchez1620 Pump, you need to reciprocate the system forward, then back through a full cycle - not just pull. It's most comparable in cycling to a RMB-93 or NS2000 inverted-cycle pump shotgun.

[@bBlaF]

The absolute madman, Jörg. He's done up the archery equivalent of a Winchester.

[@checkmate058]

Actually its more like the archery knox volly gun, to its peak but it shows potentual

[@frans42000]

In my head, this is either a pump action bow, or a long draw "crossbow" on its side.

[@LaughingMan44]

Yes

[@VexShiza]

I love everything about what you just said.

[@rochzalewski1779]

I love Joerg Sprave he is so creative

[@GlidyBun]

Imagine explaining this to a medival king. "Yes, there is supposed to be two bows." "Yes the other bow is meant to be pointed at me" "No I am not going to shoot myself"

[@Joe125g20]

King: this sounds stupid, but I will give you one shot, and one shot only, to prove your invention! Medieval Joerg: *shoots perfectly, manly laugh* King: I'll take 10,000

[@NRMRKL]

Underrated comment XD

[@NigelTolley]

@@Joe125g20 "Your Majesty, could I get you to, instead, count to ten?" (because a single shot wouldn't prove anything. A single magazine would!)

[@shallowabyss515]

While I assume that you comment is made in gest, I find it insulting that people regard their forebearers with such contempt. While there were undoubtedly kings that were stupid, there were also undoubtedly kings that were genius military commmanders, and political schemers.

[@LuchesChan]

Oh, the double/triple bow crossbows did exist in the past, so it wouldn't be that surprising to the kings of the past myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=267780

[@Debatra.]

3:53 Tod: "There's some really clever little features here." Joerg: *appears out of nowhere* I will take it from here.

[@excelsior8682]

-Joerg's head literally bursts out of his roof- "LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES, HAHAHAHA"

[@jheffreymartineau3388]

@@excelsior8682 hahaahashhahahhaha

[@aaronseet2738]

medieval archers: We were born in the wrong millennium.

[@bilyenn]

its they engineers doe

[@HuwgeGrin]

Shooting a bow without dysentery is nice though.

[@budahbaba7856]

Hey, don't sell yourself short. You may very well require that skill in the living future.

[@l0sts0ul89]

@Swedish Dissident Dam french

[@flamebird2218]

@Tyler K. 15th Century handgonner: heavy breahing while looking at a firelock that fires almost indefinitely, wonders why it doesn't explode

[@AdmiralJT]

"Ugh, nobody needs a high capacity assault bow!!!" This is freaking awesome! haha Basically a pump action long bow.

[@Mr.Postman866]

More like a pull action longbow ^^

[@Orgikan]

The debate around this has been centered on "instant-Legolas vs longbow". But in the context of medieval weapons, it has always seemed to me that the competition would be "instant-Legolas vs crossbow", the development seems to me closer to an alternative easier and faster loading system to that of crossbows than longbows.

[@phale426]

I agree - it sure as hell wouldn't have replaced the longbow, but I see no reason why it couldn't have replaced the crossbow. And we know that the crossbow DID in fact change medieval history.

[@vesteroth7754]

i dont think this would have nearly the penetrating power that a crossbow does. there's a reason there are special tools to draw a crossbow. If anything, it would be a 3rd weapon that would fulfill a new role, just like what was said in the video.

[@NUSensei]

That's what I keep coming back to when evaluating how it would be used. The main advantage of the repeating bow is to give low-skilled users the ability to shoot quickly and, with these new assists, more powerful bows. But that's pretty much what crossbows did. The bow is a very versatile weapon - the people who used bows could shoot them with power, speed and accuracy as needed. The repeating tool turns it into a specialised tool for very specific scenarios. The question is whether it would replace crossbows or be used as a standalone weapon.

[@seanrea550]

It wouldn't have even replaced cross bows, repeaters changed firearms while keeping a similar package so they could fit the same role. How would it change the bow, I dont know, lmg type role?

[@Altrantis]

I don't think so. Crossbows have other advantages. They're more devastating at short distances, they're easier to operate behind cover and on ships and castles, for instance, an they're easier to keep loaded for long periods of time. Crossbows are for slow, methodical combat, where this repeating bow is very good at suppressing a charging enemy instead, it's perfect for moments of panic. I think it has an entirely different purpose to both the bow and crossbow.

[@hyenascreech2183]

"You cant get anymore simple" Blasphemy! *throws rock*

[@BeetleBuns]

you call that simple?! *throws punch*

[@nevertrustatory9412]

Hang on a minute! Unscrews pommel...

[@edi9892]

I've heard that one guy throw a cobblestone through a wooden door in a fit of jealousy. I doubt that even many pitchers can generate this much power... On the other hand, a relative of mine did the same with a cabbage through a closed window and still injured his wife who was busy cheating on him... (there was a cabbage patch right next to the window among a bunch of other plants).

[@ayooobro]

edi wtf is this comment

[@omikronweapon]

@@nevertrustatory9412 unscrewing a pommel makes it léss simple. it's not about ranged, it's about less moving parts.

[@slowpokebr549]

Just imagine about thirty Joerg's shooting those at you whilst chuckling.

[@JaxMerrick]

With the booming warcry: *LET ME SHOW YOU IT'S FEATURES!*

[@andrewplck]

And the hills bellowed with the mighty HAHAHAHAHA as the slaughter went on...

[@Sawtooth44]

... i suddenly want this as a mod in probably a total war game or something similar, voice clip and all

[@James-sk4db]

Someone’s got to put it in bannerlord

[@Sawtooth44]

i can hear the voice line of attacking now "LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES! HAHAHA!" *queue arrow storm*

[@askaliu2943]

if i was any good a writing stories i'd turn all this into a medieval fan fiction LOL "just before the siege horn was sound... we saw a figure raise up on the castle wall. He was a big man, bold, and build like a bear... then a team of archers came up next to him, lined up along the wall, all holding a strange shaped bow that we have never seen before... then that man started laughing, sounding like a joyful kid, but to think about it now, it was the laughter of demon... of death and destruction... soon he stopped laughing and shout out joyfully from the top of that wall... "LET ME SHOW YOU IT'S FEATURES!" he shouts... then the arrows... all those arrows just rain down on us, like the heaviest rain during a storm... during my 20 years of battle i have never seen arrows fall from the sky like that... and that was all i could remember... i don't know how i survived it, it might be luck, or it might be the will of the god... for that i was chosen to live on and pass down the story of the great battle at the Castle of Joerg..." Ps.omg 400+ likes xD? Thinks guys for the support!!

[@davydovua]

FYI You are actually pretty good with that and might as well try and write&share more of these :3

[@askaliu2943]

@Adam Richard thank you :3

[@askaliu2943]

@@davydovua thank you :D really appreciate that! but nah, little short stuff like this i can do, but any longer i just don't have the brain cell nor the language skill to make it happen saidly. PS: first time i actually get to 100+ likes on a reply haha, this is pretty cool

[@phoenixyt5421]

@@askaliu2943 fun little story :)

[@ghostphil6030]

Yeah was also thinking this would totally fit a medival or fantasy setting. Maybe one special tribe invented this type of bow.

[@dazzrs-uk5708]

Great to see you 2 collaborating. Glad I suggested it along with others... here's to great results.

[@oneparticularlysmartape]

"Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover in..." Jörg: "Hold my features HAHAHAHAHA" Shad: "Hold my MACHICOLATIOOOOONSzzaaaaa...!!!" Tod: Hi. It's Tod from Tod's Workshop and Tod Cuttler here, and today you're gonna hold my medieval crafting skills.

[@p7outdoors297]

I honestly ugly laughed at this comment

[@preza2033]

This is the best comment here lol

[@crustybomb115]

this comment is underrated XD

[@mariokajin]

Hold my features HAHAHAHAHA... that is pure gold.

[@bliblablubb9590]

you forgot to add modern history tv

[@5chr4pn3ll]

I can't wait for this project! I can't imagine a person more suited for building this kind of contraption, while keeping it historical, than Tod.

[@Largecrabman]

joerg: "I'm not a carpenter" Todd: "joerg is a master of wood engineering" wholesome

[@jensboettiger5286]

those are two different things

[@ForestRaptor]

@@jensboettiger5286 It's still very high praise!

[@untitled9181]

I want to get into woodworking but I don't have any space or power tools :(

[@Hellsong89]

@@untitled9181 Non issue. Get your self drill of some sort, cordless are very nice for fine control, drill bits, hand saw, few chisels of various size, build wooden hammer to knock chisels with, metal ruler, box cutter, measuring calibers and couple of planers. All of those can be found from drift shop or yard sale for few bucks, though for the drill you might spend bit more money. Then just get tools when you need them. For space...you do have roof over your head right? I built gf's custom crafting table on living room, while bedroom was storage for ready made parts and materials and kitchen stored glue ups and with door closed and windows open made it painting room (with a brush and rollers, not spray), with plastic on the ground and news papers soaking any drips. Though i did finish it in friends shop with spray gun, but you can rent a garage or work shop from local company to do it real cheap, or hire them to do it entirely, if you want spray finish. Only thing required is relative good neighbors (usually just asked what the fuck was the noise, cause they were interested what i was doing, not to complain) and cleaning way more often. After project is done you need to do big clean up due all the dust, but nothing major. Construction vacuum cleaner is advised for dust prevention. If you have gf, its great test for the relationship :D If she cant handle little crafting on living room, specially when you clean it after every day and major clean on projects end she aint keeper :D

[@noahwick3217]

​@@jensboettiger5286 in the same way that golden and red apples are

[@ZekTak]

another thing to think about is that in joerg's version, it fires short bolts which cannot be fired back by enemies with regular bows.

[@nilo70]

What a wonderful idea ! I had never thought about that

[@GuyUWishUWere]

A good idea, but how do you keep the weight of the projectiles high enough to avoid damaging the bow?

[@JiryStark]

@@GuyUWishUWere Thicc and all made of wood except for the tip. Problem solved.

[@trevillyan5515]

When you combine German engineering with an English longbowman, you get a walking weapons platform

[@slingshotmcoy]

English skill, German engineering, a weapons system to rule them all.

[@RebelTheArtGal]

BBBBBRAAAAKAAA MOONOOOOGAAAA! DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHI!

[@dankovac1609]

What about a Mongol-born Englishman with a horse and a 120lbs instant legolas? That we would call a light tank.

[@clyax113]

I don't know, it seems more like an Italian engineering project to me. I'd believe Leonardo de Vinci would have been able to make this using era-specific materials.

[@sr.k8656]

@@clyax113 Probably, but IMHO with fireweapons starting to dominate the European battlegrounds it's unlikely that Leo would dedicate energies into this project. Anyway he could master it just as a hobby XD

[@markzosemsuello4016]

Everyone who recieved instant legolas from jörg: have a great smile like a child recieving gift from santa Claus... Lol

[@StergiosMekras]

Joerg is my kind of Santa.

[@wutmagna7222]

That's its hidden feature. +75% chance of boisterous laughter when using +110% chance of smiling when using

[@thePavuk]

Let me show it´s features, Ho! Ho! Ho!

[@zulphur]

I really really want one

[@doomyboi]

I could receive a single sock and a broken marble in a gift box from Joerg and I'd still have a big dumb grin on my face.

[@TokyoCraftsman]

This is the type of video that made KZbin great, it’s a shame that KZbin has forgotten this. Cheers from Tokyo!

[@Kellethorn]

I shoot a longbow and when I saw that first grouping I almost spat my coffee. That is NOT bad for someone (iirc) with no formal longbow training/on your first time shooting a given configuration. Hell, I'd take that grouping on any given day!

[@NUSensei]

Personally, I think it's the effect of the sight and the light draw weight. I was surprised to see that this version has a tangent sight - that was pretty clever.

[@greenhoodedvigilante458]

@@NUSensei Hi man! I'm surprised to find you here. Btw, I'm big fan of you. Your 'Instant genghis khan' needs some upgrade as well. 😊

[@Slingshotchannel]

@@NUSensei Well, don't under estimate the effect of the front lever, what I call the "medieval let-off". It allows you to hold the weapon steady under full tension. The heavier the bow, the more important this gets. Sights are useless if you can't hold the weapon steady.

[@tods_workshop]

@@Slingshotchannel I would agree that the front hold does help massively with the sighting because it helps to keep everything steady

[@tommihommi1]

@@Slingshotchannel and then there's the perfectly consistent draw length and reference point, really you need all these features together to make the exceptional accuracy with zero training

[@ludovicocamellini7309]

there are no words. one of the most functional and fun inventions ever. I thank Joerg for allowing me to use his figure and his inventions for my fantasy book! Thank you Joerg and thank you Tod for this review.

[@floriel1]

It's to a longbow what the henry rifle is to a single shot rifle: slightly less power but way more shots per minute. So like the henry rifle, it would have found it's use case.

[@flakes6551]

Bows are already quite fast and you have to add the magazine reload, I don't think it is actually faster than a simple bow if you want to shoot a lot of arrows. So for raining down volleys of arrows a standard bow is probably better, if your concern is a LOT of arrows in a limited time then yes, this is way better.

[@Khalmidgar]

@@flakes6551 i would envision its medieval use being a small fast moving company of men armed with these. You cant fire on horseback, but if you could move to an area of the battle quickly, then fire a tremendous amount of firepower there very quickly, then leave in a hurry. Return to "base" reload then prepare to move out again. You could send them to key points on the battlefield and devastate enemies there. Wouldnt be effective much in defense, youd burn through your arrows fast and unless you could collect arrows back youd need a massive amount of them. !00 men who can move quickly though and with 5 arrows a piece could sling 500 arrows with good accuracy in a matter of seconds, that would be pretty effective.

[@andresacosta5318]

Andrea Fiocchi i always picture an army who gets hit by the enemy having all their bowmen with these and just blotting out the sky with the million tiny bolts that the enemy cant shoot back at them

[@sammyjones6730]

The Instant Legolas should be more powerful than a bow, in the hands of the same archer. The draw assist lets one draw a bow 20-30% beyond their normal ability by storing energy from the initial 'pushing' action. Never have to pull more than 90 lbs to draw a 115 lb bow.

[@baconsoup8346]

@@sammyjones6730 Seem it would serve a Flanking, and Skirmishing role in the hands of a few bands of soldiers in a battlefield, and might slightly prolong the length of wars, and battles slightly, and be effective I would believe in wooded terrain, steep hills, night ambushes, and large towns/villages, and the urban cities of the medieval era, Medieval Outlaw bands, marauders, vikings likely would see the use of Instant Legolas, for quick raids, and Viking Longbows for range at sea, very well become the weapon of foot soldiers if there are enough bolts around which is unlikely but extensive mining, and metallurgy might supply it, and would crudely resemble the Vietnam war, and World War 1 Balkans in war.

[@elvesbane]

"This is not a long bow... it is a different kind of a weapon" Yeah, it's a Jörg-bow. 😅

[@flipsideroot]

SIL

[@nothingsurprisesmeanymore]

Surely it's like the difference between a musket and a M16, who do you think would win?

[@littlejohn-pi7kk]

Trade mark it

[@53n47]

I think IL x long bow is not comparable to m16 and musket

[@NUSensei]

"I get it, Joerg, I get it". Pretty much my thoughts too.

[@NUSensei]

I've said in my analysis that the main thing that holds it back is its simplification of rapid shooting, such that a novice could shoot a quick burst with decent effectiveness (granted the new pump-action model and sights, and potentially with the pendulum design, greatly enhances this). Once you have actual training and experience with a normal bow, the rate of fire evens out, so you're just switching sustained shooting for burst shooting. As the number of combatants scale up, the volume of arrows is achieved through simply having more archers. This would be a highly specialised weapon and role, suitable for when an individual or small group of unskilled archers needs a disproportionately larger volume of shooting. Something else viewers should be wary of is how effective it looks on camera, but given that we're shooting light draw weights with light bolts, things really drop off past 10 yards in terms of penetration and accuracy. I had the same tight grouping as Tod on my first go with the original Genghis Khan model (no release grip or sights), but struggled past 20 yards. As Tod said, if the draw weight and bolt weight could be beefed up, we might see different results. I agree with your initial observations on the technical drawbacks. My viewers seem to miss that it isn't a quick-detach device - it does require the string to be threaded into the rail and the bow needs to be lashed on, so it removes the ability for the bow to be used conventionally unless you can modify it to be removed easily.

[@phale426]

@@NUSensei My intuition is that the sliding mechanism fundamentally changes the Instant Legolas as a concept, and is actually the far greater innovation than the magazine. As you said, with high draw weights plus reloading and logistical concerns, the rate of fire advantage of the magazine is probably close to nil on a large scale. But the sliding mechanism provides a consistent draw, a consistent release, and a draw-hold feature - essentially the exact same advantages of a crossbow. It is, in effect, a crossbow that is *much* faster to reload, at the cost of being slightly more bulky. I might even suggest that the Sliding Instant Legolas would have been game-changing WITHOUT the magazine. It would allow you to mass train large amounts of unskilled archers - just like crossbows - but each one has a rate of fire equal to a regular longbow, instead of a crossbow.

[@espneindanke9172]

@NUSensei The best conceivable application would be on the defender's side during a siege. It would be "difficult" on the open battlefield - at the latest when it comes to close combat (reloading time between the bursts). An untrained person would have no chace at all without a secondary weapon (and training). But to shoot arrows from the castle walls ... the IL would do the job. AND anyone could shoot it - the cook, the princess and anyone else....

[@NUSensei]

@@espneindanke9172 I question the "anyone" part. While it definitely makes it easier, especially the sliding rail design, but when you scale it up to war bow levels, you still need to be physically able to draw the bow even with the tool. Crossbows were employed for this very reason - it could be cocked with tools and shot by anyone, and you didn't even need to load it if you had someone else to do it for you. This seems to be the opposite - anyone can load it, but it would be ineffective if the user couldn't draw it to begin with.

[@cheyannei5983]

@@NUSensei Chinese repeating crossbows are very similar operationally. They were used mostly to repel charges against static defenses due to the low weight of the bolt and demand for sudden firepower.

[@KurNorock]

I am like 80% sure that the whole "Don't hold a longbow at full draw for extended periods" thing is more about being physically unable to hold a 120 pound draw bow at full draw for extended periods rather than anything about it possibly damaging the bow.

[@simmerke1111]

Yeah, probably more of risk of hurting yourself than the bow.

[@mrdeztroyah]

@@simmerke1111 more tiring your arm out (which then means your aim is unsteady) rather than hurting yourself

[@gonun69]

I think it would be pretty interesting to test that out. Make a jig to draw out a longbow and hold it there for some time. Use a chronograph to measure the speed of the arrows before and after. Test by drawing it out for increasing periods of time.

[@rugratrik]

It's not as much about being physically unable to do it, but drawing a 120 pounder at full draw and keeping it there massively increases the forces that your body has to contain (from explosive to sustained force), and this tends to lead to overstretching of the muscles, and even the stretching of bones (see the Mary Rose skeletons), which can give problems after the battle (injury prone, dislocations, muscle tears etc) . To a certain extent a trained body can deal with this, but there is a limit. Just like how the Strongmen competitions only ask for a 2(?) second lift, and not a walk around the stage.

[@KurNorock]

@@rugratrik Find me the person who can hold a 120+ pound longbow at full draw for longer than 5 seconds. And if you do find that person, see if they can do it twice in a row.

[@MartinGreywolf]

If we're talking medieval military use, there's three things we need to look at, aside from does it work for arrows and bows big enough to get through at least gambeson: 1) Cost. How much longer does this take to make when compared to a simple bow, and how much does it cost to maintain? Because we may well find out that it's cheaper to just hire another bowman. 2) Weather resistance. Will rain be enough to make it not work because wood got bloated? Sure, you could store it in something like a leather bag, but if your formation is in the field, there may not be enough time. Comapre it to crossbow with its waxed string or bow with a string that's easy to take off and store. 3) Wear and tear. How many arrows can we put through this before it breaks. There's a lot of surfaces sliding along each other and a lot of force pressing into things. Some of it could be helped by embedding bone or horn into critical contact points, but perhaps not all.

[@Regnent]

The crossbow was a far more complicated, expensive version of a bow, a major advantage was that anyone could use it. The cost of 'just hiring' another bowman, is months, or years of training versus a more expensive 'bow'

[@MartinGreywolf]

@@Regnent No, cost of a bowman was about 6 pence a day. We have actual data on this from Hundred Years War, it's not hard to look them up.

[@Banjo-ed5vv]

MartinGreywolf yes, and months upon months of training to get a competent archer.

[@germangama8162]

about the cost; In the medium term it would be cheaper due to the fact that the arrows being shorter, are much easier to manufacture. from my own experience; I was able to make 6 bolts for the same cost of 1 normal arrow and much faster just because it was easier for me to find 15-inch sections that were straight enough ... also fewer feathers are used. also being short arrows they could not be fired against you with a normal bow ...

[@kooroshrostami27]

1) There have been far more complicated and sophisticated Crossbow systems in the ME era that went into mass production anyway, as Shadiversity has pointed out 2) I don't know 3) If you enforced the fragile parts, like the left hand handle at the front and the attachment part with metal reinforcements, stability should not be a problem. A medieval craftsman should have no problem to repair it either. It might need frequent repairs and reinforcements, but this should not be an issue.

[@RawrName]

Imagine if Joerg was around in the medieval times, the man would be rich and well renowned for the weapons he makes.

[@pteppig]

And he would be featured at "forgotten weapons"

[@poja82]

I love how Joerg whent fron playing with slingshots to uniting a community of thinkers and tinkers.

[@darthkek1953]

And he did it to his theme-tune of HA HA HAAAA!!

[@way2sh0rt07grad]

Darth KEK Let me show you its features lol

[@mainaccount3087]

There's something interestingly heart-warming seeing Tod having fun in this video. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights with us, Tod.

[@Fr3ddyM3hrCurry]

Ok Guys. Its hapening everybody stay calm

[@hellnaw6515]

I CAN'T STAY CAAAAALM! AAAAAH

[@haroldellis9721]

I'm trying, I'm trying. Now excuse me while I take a cold shower and steel my friend's heart medicine.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

REEEEEEEEE

[@eastoforion]

calm? CALM?!?

[@maelgugi]

Don't tell me what to do! XD

[@texmanro]

This is one of the reasons that internet is beautiful. Variety, beautiful and ingenious people. Hat off to you sir!

[@originalcharacter3575]

I loves this man's passion for his own passion. His knowledge and articulation of the ideas. Even making the science simple to those who may not have known anything prior to this video is just perfect in my opinion. This is amazing!!!!

[@tods_workshop]

Thank you - thats very kind

[@30035XD]

I never clicked so fast in a video before! Damn how I waited for this.

[@Alwis-Haph-Rytte]

Same here.

[@daveh3997]

About sprained my finger . . .

[@rorydonaldson2794]

I really enjoy seeing your reactions to the bow. Your eagerness over it is awesome to see. It's been worth the wait for this video

[@yourbabushka3750]

Jeorg has the manliest laugh I have ever heard

[@MACtic1]

You're young

[@sergeantbigmac]

@@MACtic1 Ok Boomer

[@therealzilch]

7:28 - "medievalwise". I've been waiting my whole life for this qualifier.

[@lrdstrahd1]

As a competitive 3D , field archer and enthusiast, I have loved the concept of this thing since Joerg came up with it and started making videos of his inventions. I shoot a lot of different bows from history including war bows and long bows. I can see the benefits of it and a few draw backs. I look forward to seeing what Tod will come up with to expand upon it from a medieval perspective. I think his comments so far were well reasoned and fair. Keep up the great work Tod. I look forward to seeing what you do with this beast of an invention.

[@timothyissler3815]

Somebody is gonna try and make a D&D home-brew of this thing.

[@shawn6860]

Probably done already.

[@jusquanorthwind1016]

Wouldn’t it be treated like a repeater crossbow does for crossbows?

[@JK-ko6en]

It took maybe a day for several homebrews to show up on Reddit.

[@pseudonym9599]

@@JK-ko6en now it needs a Skyrim mod.

[@Hopeofmen]

Done.

[@squidly4217]

What's really interesting about that weapon's theoretical role in medieval combat is the fact that it's not really a standalone weapon. Soldiers could potentially be deployed with longbows and several of those attachments, and simply switch when the need arises. It almost would be like the ability to switch from semi-automatic to fully automatic in modern military firearms.

[@zumbazumba1]

Not to mention if you had a peasant boy and 3 of those you could fire really fast.Like a crew ,one guy shoots,other guy reloads and 3rd guy passes them.Medeval equivalent of machinegun.Then when a shooter gets tires someone else replaces him .

[@ilikeyourname4807]

The attachment is a hassle to get on and off and it's perfectly capable of single shots. Switching in the field doesn't make that much sense. I don't really see anything a bow can do that an IL can't. Some things a plain warbow can do better (the bow doesn't encourage you to damage it by drawing it for too long, friction slightly decreases the IL's efficiency and might wear out the string faster etc.) but I would see the device almost completely replacing normal bows in an army because: Astonishing volume of fire Good accuracy Easier to train people on, thus potential to get more guys in the field in the same amount of time The Instant Legolas is a noob weapon. Easy to learn, easy to master. Perfect for the modern type of soldier. About medieval English longbowmen I know little and can't really make any statements.

[@dot620]

more likely you would have all three alternate shooting and reloading, which was more effective with reloading weapons like musket. You would not need such a deep line to allow continuous fire though (a musket takes much longer to reload than to fire compared to these) which might change tactics a lot. If we are talking about England, all the peasants in this situation would likely be trained to use a longbow.

[@NUSensei]

Modern combat rifles switch modes with a flick of the finger. This tool requires the bow to be lashed onto the device, the string threaded through and then strung. It's a clumsy process that, as Tod said, is more awkward with a heavier bow. I had mine jam a couple of times, and that pretty much put the whole thing out of action until I unstrung it and cleared the rail.

[@NUSensei]

@@dot620 I'd say it takes around 10 seconds to load a full magazine (depending on capacity) in this tool. The loading speed is fast enough that you don't need to fire by rank. More likely you would fire at will given that each soldier will load, aim and shoot at their own pace. Unlike with muskets, you're not looking for initial volume of fire. You have a weapon with multiple shots, negating the need to immediately reload. What *could* change, if this was actually adopted as a standard weapon, would be that armies might be less linear and massed. If both armies had this tool, there might be more small-unit skirmish tactics around a greater area.

[@Caesar_Himself]

Lordy. Imagine 1000 trained archers armed with these things firing into a crowd of troops.

[@WingmanSR]

5000 arrows in maybe 2 or 3 seconds... That's a scary thought.

[@iagocasabiellgonzalez7807]

@@WingmanSR And the skies went black as night

[@checkmate058]

Imagine 1000 UNTRAINED archers useing this to seige a city

[@NUSensei]

Not as scary as it sounds compared to what was already achievable. The main difference is in sustained vs burst shooting. If all 1000 shot at the same time, you could get 5000 shots in a few seconds. But factor in the reload and a normal bow will match or even outshoot it. It comes down to whether you need that burst for short-distance engagement, perhaps similar to how we see single-shot rifles and repeating rifles being used.

[@CanalTremocos]

late 19th-century european nations resisted the adoption of repeating rifles because they didn't think they could afford the increase in ammo spent. Both logistically, financially and in terms of tactics. Advances in industry made that point moot but we still have the question about what happens after the 1000 archers shoot that first 5000 arrow volley.

[@zhelock420]

Joër/ Tod,. Thank you for your time for the construction of such a beautiful piece of art.

[@slackerpope]

Great video, I really appreciate how open minded and honest you are!

[@huldu]

What's really quite amazing with the "Instant Legolas" is that it basically requires no experience with firing a bow yet it allows the person to become quite good at aiming and firing.

[@Justowner]

Which is the primary advantage of the crossbow and gun. Easy training. This however has a significant speed advantage.

[@r.gilman4261]

@@Justowner Easy training is a function of just what the Instant Legolas does as well as the Crossbow and later guns..it give consistency...it is accurate because it removes any variation in the pull of the weapon.

[@Michael-Madrid]

@@r.gilman4261 The release is the more important variable, but yes, more repeatable.

[@joelrampersad1359]

Joerg imbues all his creations with the "childish grin" spell of enchantment. I just want Tod to say "Let me show you its features".

[@jeanpaulgartier3404]

I'd really like tod to go as heavy as possible with the build, optimize it to have the most powerful forward assist and a humanly impossible draw weight on the main bow

[@Appletank8]

Now i’m wondering if you can have some sort of assist tool to allow the second bow to be hilariously heavy to allow for an even more hilariously heavy primary bow, the same way you need a crank to pull back a heavy crossbow. Sure all the advantages would be lost but hey, 200 lb here we gooooooo.

[@shallowabyss515]

I think the mechanism will reach it's limit before human anatomy. Then again, wood can always be reinforced with metal, at the expense of cost and weight. I would be intrested in a medieval smith's ability to form flat metal plates - I wonder how the performance would look if the sliding mechanism was just two oiled plates sliding against each other. I envisage two strips of metal being meshed with three strips of metal (one of them higher than the others, placed between the two) forming a crude T shape and slotting into the gap between the two plates. This might allow the mechanism to be expanded beyond a weight where wood on wood contact surfaces for the movement of the rail would fail.

[@jeanpaulgartier3404]

@@shallowabyss515 I agree, the design needs reinforcement. That's where tod fits in. as for the ability of medieval smiths to make straight metal slabs, what is a sword if not a straight long steel slab?

[@ThisIsAigle]

this whole project has me subscribing to so many channels i never know about just to follow the story of this one amazing invention. I can't wait to see your take on this now either.

[@LucifersTear]

It's a fabulous invention: 1) It securely and easily holds the draw-weight for aiming 2) It's relatively easy to detach and transport. 3) The trigger mechanism ensures a consistent release. 4) It COULD have been manufactured in the medieval times, with the technology available at the time. 5) Ability to use a rudimentary sighting system means accuracy over a longer distance. I think if this tech had been thought of at the time... Almost all bowmen would have been comfortably and accurately showering their enemies with arrows fired at 100lbs. Todd, all you need to do is tweak this for the correct arrows, correct draw weight for the most probably use and simplify the materials and production method that would have been employed at the time. Then you have a History-changing implementat

[@mitchjr77]

I’ve been waiting for this video and collab with these two “born in the wrong Century” Titans, Jörg and Tod! It’s like watching 2 of the Avengers for Medieval Weaponry FINALLY coming together! Can’t wait for the next video! 😆

[@davebirch2543]

I've been waiting for Tod to get his hands on one of these. I've been following the various iterations of the instant legolas and it's variations on Joerg's channel from the get go and I think Tod's the one who can settle once and for all where exactly this thing would have fit historically.

[@tods_workshop]

Thanks; I doubt anything can get settled with this device, but I will try

[@entropy11]

I'm so looking forward to seeing what Tod does with this. Fully re-engineered for fully legit historically plausible medieval craftsmanship. Can't wait!

[@tods_workshop]

Thats the plan, but lets see...

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Awesome vid man, joerg stuff is awesome and now mixed with your uniqueness is fabulous!

[@MoswenMedia]

I can see this being banned in California for having to large a magazine or something like that.

[@wikilcontainments]

In California, I’m surprised you don’t have to register a baseball bat. Or firewood. Or bricks. So tired of the constant new things that are harmful in the state of California notices on products. It’s like the legislature is bored and full of coffee drinking soccer moms.

[@RavemastaJ]

@Lex Bright Raven Life causes cancer.

[@Blue-pb7kz]

@@RavemastaJ Yeah, definitely. That's why if I have a child I'll let them smoke and go to UV tanning booths and so on. Might as well get it sooner than later, you know?

[@RavemastaJ]

V. S. Just a little bit of the cancer. You probably want your kids to get it anyways in the future. Cancer gives your whole family Pity Points! Big PP!

[@anthonyz7000]

Holy crap! Something like that could've changed history had someone invented it before the age of gunpowder. Wow!

[@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232]

Exactly!

[@sliceofbread2611]

even a bit into the gunpowder age i think it would have been used, just for the amount of firepower it gives one person.

[@jeffreyhenion4818]

Anthony Zierhut History is full of cool weapon designs that weren’t adopted because they were too complex or finicky to be effectively carried, maintained, and utilized by the common foot soldier. As Todd points out this is very light bow. Beef up the mechanism to use a 100+ lb. bow and the thing is going to start to weigh quite a bit. Add the ‘assist system’ and you’ve got a pretty complicated beast that’s going to really be pain to carry about or use. Maintaining it in the field would be something of a nightmare. Period bows were either entirely covered while strung ( like crossbows) or unstrung and the bow and string covered separately. Henry V’s archers supposedly kept their bowstrings dry before Agincourt by coiling the under their caps. Don’t forget that in this era manpower was always cheaper than materials. You very likely could hire a couple of trained archers for the cost of building and maintaining one of these things.

[@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232]

@@jeffreyhenion4818 Great points!

[@b.h.abbott-motley2427]

I'm skeptical it would have changed European history very much. Matchlock firearms drove English bows from the field primarily because of three factors: much greater power & thus armor penetration, convenience of shooting from cover, & much higher velocity (making dodging much more difficult). Magazine longbows would have been even more awkward than classic longbows for skirmishing in rough terrain. They still can't defeat decent armor & they shoot arrows at velocity low enough to potentially dodge. Shooting five arrows in nine seconds isn't that great if your foes take cover within the first second of a skirmish.

[@ignaciasd1198]

This is the crossover everyone was waiting for

[@Assassinus2]

It’s got a hold-open! That tickles me immensely.

[@jameshealy4594]

It's great isn't it haha. However, it serves a very real purpose, even more so than on a firearm - dry firing a longbow is likely to do serious damage.

[@bryceforsyth8521]

@@jameshealy4594 You can do quite a lot of damage to caplock firearms when dry firing, not that that relates being hold-opens cannot be implemented without a bolt to hold open.

[@jameshealy4594]

@@bryceforsyth8521 Yep, it will also damage many rimfires but as far as I know not in quite the same catastrophic way it can destroy a bow.

[@Assassinus2]

James Healy Yup, so I’ve been told. I have never put this to the test as I’m too fond of my bow to want to destroy it though. :) And yes, it isn’t exactly a hold-open. It seemed like the closest analogue.

[@marklarochelle3175]

Absolutely LOVE your channel, I've been following for quite a while. You and Jorge? A match made in engineering heaven!

[@theonetheonlyw5483]

Subscribed for supporting The Sprave and for being skilled in the art of badassery, well done!

[@dagonming1319]

Tod : ok, i think i will have to try that again just to see how well it shoots, 20 secs later, ok, i think i will have to try that again just to see how well it hits the target, 20 secs later, ok, i think i will have to try that again just to see how well it hits when i aim it.. GOD THIS THING IS SO MUCH FUN TO SHOOT

[@ARandomTroll]

regarding the draw assist: since it only has to move at drawing speed instead of projectile speed the system can have a lot more moving mass without wasting energy. this opens up a new range of materials. you could for example use spring steel like on a crossbow. the reason you should not keep a wood bow drawn or even strung longer than nescesary is a material property called creep. the rate at which it's natural shape changes while still in the elastic region of the stress- strain diagramm. steel has a lot less creep than wood. therefore the permanent preload required to get significant draw assist at full draw where it actually matters is not a problem. also since inertia is less of an issiue you could use brone pulleys or even cams to increase the draw length of a short bow and to better align the forces. cams like on a compound bow could also help to reshape the draw weight /draw length curve of the assist bow to provide much more force at full draw for the main bow, where it would normally provide almost no assisting force beyond your preload.

[@vadimblin]

Bows are cheap and easy to make... loses drawweight? Replace it! Also u have the biggest advantages if u give that device to untrained people. Cause they get decent fire ratio and accuracy with it. An well trained soldier could do anything without an instant legolas. A bow wouldn't last long in untrained hands anyway...

[@eps200]

@@vadimblin I see two versions of this emerging, A milita version that is optimised to be cheap idiot proof and mass produced. The sort of thing you give to your conscripts. Then like ARandomTroll5150 sugests an assault and ambush version so to speak. This would be for professional soldiers who normally fight mele. The would use this as an opener a bit like roman pilum. Or to start an ambush, or to blunt an enemy charge.

[@vadimblin]

@@eps200 yeah, that is exactly the thing!

[@joshm9782]

Vadim Блин the English who used the longbow the most didn’t have enough materials to make them and had to rely on imports to make enough and each bow could take 4 years to make back then so no you can’t just replace it.

[@joshm9782]

Longbows already had a draw weight of 80-150 lbs (recommended draw weight for large males now is 60-70 for reference) so the draw weight wasn’t something needing increasing that much which is also another reason for not drawing them for too long as it required a lot of strength to use.

[@yajurka]

So hyped for this project, can't wait to see the result. When Medieval History got Instant Legolas it looked cool, but this upgraded version, especially with assist bow is a monster. Put a bunch of those on a fort and you effectively got five times more men.

[@KTo288]

@Jadandlud that's why overdraw devices like the tong ah and majra exist.

[@shallowabyss515]

Five is conservative.

[@tomc.5704]

I came back to watch this again. Boy am I excited to see where this goes next

[@OneXPlays1XP]

"It is a different kind of weapon" Fantastic. Well said sir.

[@LoreAccurateHusky]

8:51 After hearing you say that, I honestly think that is a great idea for a video. After you work on recreating this contraption, you should honestly work to arm 50 people and display the potential "firepower". That honestly would make for a great video and an epic conclusion to this project you are undertaking.

[@pendularnuncius2618]

This thing looks like a monster hunter weapon

[@Jazz_Boye_Jambo]

glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that lol. Heavy bowgun irl

[@53n47]

Light* bowgun

[@shicksa]

Joerg is the only hope we have for a real life working bowgun

[@notuleufp1429]

I want one rn

[@whocares110]

The short arrows are the point, they can't be shot back at you and when you run out of arrows you can remove the legolas and fire the opponents arrows back at them.

[@niteliniN]

but well, as seen would be dificult, you would have to reestring the bow due how the instant legolas is built.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

What Tod was on about was not how well the arrows would fit, but that firing such light bolts from a heavier bow could physically damage the bow itself from the shock.

[@paulsherman7802]

Still short, just heavier.

[@TFUTM]

Nice video. Imagine one of those firing from an arrow slit in a medieval castle. Most of the time castles had few soldiers in them so there might only be one person to do the shooting until his friends responded to a threat. The ability to deliver instant rapid firepower into any group approaching the walls or entrance would be a huge improvement on a bow or crossbow. That would be a great siege weapon for the defenders.

[@t.schneck8317]

This is the best explanation. It is a different weapon. Can't wait to see it👍

[@DamonYoungYT]

AND UNIVERSES COLLIDE. [deep laugh]

[@thefracturedbutwhole5475]

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[@jessetheunending9357]

HA HA HA!

[@burnhard.]

1:05 That chicken be like: «Never mind me! I’m just going ‘bout my business.»

[@AldanFerrox]

The "Instant Legolas" on a longbow is equivalent to the Pedersen Device mounted on the M1903 Springfield rifle late in World War 1. You either have your normal .30-06 bolt-action rifle, or a semi-auto, magazine-fed gun for close-range combat.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Eh, the Pedersen device is shooting what amounts to 7.62 tokarev, not 06. So much less power. So much less that people were popping their heads up while on the wrong end of the range because they weren't hearing the supersonic cracks of the bullets at ... I want to say 300 yards.

[@somersethuscarl2938]

expect this appears to work unlike the Pedersen Device as shown in 20's trials of the system by the US army

[@AldanFerrox]

@@ScottKenny1978 I know. But the Instant Legolas also isn't firing full power arrows for a longbow. You trade power for firing speed.

[@hanfpeter2822]

@@ScottKenny1978 its not even as powerful as 7.62x25. More like a few joules above .32 acp

[@RotemD]

@@AldanFerrox Actually, you don't. or at least, you don't have to. The shorter bolts for the IL can easily be made with the same mass of a longbow arrow (in fact, they'll have to be, for the heavier bows. As Tod mentions in the video), and the loss of power from the device itself (added friction and whatnot) is somewhere between minuscule to non-existent. Your real tradeoff is in the added complexity to the manufacturing and maintenance processes.

[@spookydonkey2195]

I’m a new sub from The Slingshot Channel. Excited to see where you go with it!

[@spoonikle]

This is the collab i have been waiting for.

[@GhostbustersXX13]

Tod, I do believe he made one with a bow with two long bows and during the action of drawing without stressing out either one, and while the clip is empty.

[@GhostbustersXX13]

@daAnder71 I was referring more to the mechanism that locks and releases.

[@Gurgleschlortz]

@daAnder71 I don't mean to be *that guy* but when referring to firearms, clips and magazines are very different. Clips are just, as the name suggests, clips that hold bullets. Generally via the rim on the rear end of the cartridge. Usually the rounds are fairly exposed, though some clips to wrap around the cartridges somewhat. Magazines are completely different, it's a box with a spring in it that holds bullets for the weapon in question to utilize and it isn't necessarily even a separate thing from the weapon itself. Many WW2 era rifles had internal (non detachable) magazines that were loaded from clips through the breech, the clips are just a convenient way of storing the bullets in a configuration that makes them easy to load.

[@EIixir]

Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

[@alanb1303]

Is there anything more satisfying than a British man saying "I like that"? XD

[@Aspiring_Hermit]

I'm new here but am very excited for your follow up video! Good luck with the medieval assist :)

[@xj770HUN]

Probably this is the first time when i see this channel. And i must say. That intro when motions turn into the logo. Amazing! Hands down one of the bests. It's unique. I think i never saw like this (or i don't remember it.) Anyways it's very nice!:D

[@MrMaxBoivin]

Could the draw assist be done with a steel bow and a system of pullies? You could have a more powerful bow with a short stroke with some sort of block and tackle system that would divide this force in the longer draw of the main bow. This would also reduce the bulkiness of having another full-size box in the front.

[@Magus_Union]

That was my thought as well, but steel may be too hard and unforgiving of a material to allow the bow to 'flex' and give elastic force to the frame. It could apply too much resistance in the opposite direction of the bow, and defeat the purpose of the bow acting as a force mulitplier in order to add velocity to the arrow. Copper, on the other hand, could be ductile enough as a soft metal to enable the historical replacement of fiberglass, and still retain some of that material's elasticity in order to operate in this function. But then the question becomes at what size, gauge, and purity of copper (base metal or alloy) would be most effective for this project, and if said metal 'springs' back into place or warps under constant usage.

[@NUSensei]

Weight might be a problem here. My version (the Genghis Khan) makes my bow weigh around a kilogram - not much on paper, but it feels like you're holding a plank after shooting and loading it for an hour, and especially compared to a normal bow which is almost weightless. Adding a steel bow and pulley system might be efficient, but less usable.

[@checkmate058]

If the draw assist worked as a crossbow, latching on the push then delatching to provide assist at the end of the draw.

[@tods_workshop]

There are a lot of complex issues to go through with trying to get a decent draw weight at a decent power stroke at a decent mass, but they are rather involved and I will see that for camera, but it will be tricky.

[@curvingfyre6810]

@@tods_workshop Have you considered simple alloys? Metals like tin and aluminum were pricey, but very much in use for a very very very long time in europe, even in pre christian europe. Wouldn't have been standard issue due to costs, but perhaps for select weapons with significant power intended to penetrate kite shield lines in preparation for a charge?

[@FanOMisery]

I for one can't wait for you to.... "show us its features"...hahaha

[@KyleTremblayTitularKtrey]

So my first instincts say this weapon could he deployed in seiges on the walls and seige towers to fire many shots at rushing bodies of men. I could see it in city fighting, making archer much hard to rush. I can see it essentially making a skirmisher rapidfire archer sort of like spears. Maybe it replaces slingers in many armies. So far I don't see the power or accuracy for long range heavily armour targets but I can definitly see this being the machinegun or point defense bow. Could one use the assist system with the insta legolas to make a different crossbow design? One much faster than winching?

[@salamanderofvulkan7419]

That would be a big cross bow like a monster hunter crossbow

[@paulsherman7802]

Also the learning curve would flatten considerably, A bunch of foot man with machine guns won't replace archers. but they would be cheap and easy to train for situations where rate of fire is more desired over accuracy.

[@ForestRaptor]

@@paulsherman7802 Like a field battle where you can rain arrows on infantry or riders before they get to your positions. Allowing you to seriously hamper and fatigue the reinforcing troops to the front lines.

[@thibautesteve3980]

It's the first time I've ever subscribed to a KZbin channel so quickly.

[@montinaladine3264]

Todd you are a fantastic video presenter as well as an obviously highly skilled craftsman in this field. This was fascinating to see this type of bow, I have never seen or heard of them before now. Thanks also for not adding in any stupid music into your videos, like so many others. Totally unnecessary. And vids like these without added sound or effects really show how real they can be.

[@fhmen]

just imagine how happy medieval footmen were that this didn't get invented in their time

[@speed65752]

100 archers with this thing would be like assaulting a ww1 trench guarded by automatic weapons😨😨.

[@OrDuneStudios]

The primary arguement agaisnt it is that a trained longbowmen wouldnt have use for it. Yeah but my army of peseants turned legolasses will. You can out shoot by virtue of training 100s of bowmen in weeks compared to 10s in years.

[@B3RyL]

Medieval footman: "Yeah, we really dodged an arrow on that one."

[@flash4354]

@@B3RyL badum tsss

[@havekarworkshop]

"Hopefully You'll come along for the journey..." Yes Sir, we will. Oh, we will

[@pinkhairvulcanus8153]

"Favor the bow, eh? I'm a sword man myself." - some random guard-

[@kowhaijack6033]

You would take a knife to a gun fight

[@thelonesomedrifter5884]

@@kowhaijack6033 He was making a Skyrim reference.

[@COP0351]

For when someone steals my sweet roll

[@omegaseamaster1550]

Impressive shooting for a medieval weapon of yore... Thank You for sharing...

[@AvengerBB1]

Imagine this as a defensive weapon. A mix of traditional archers and specially trained archers with these atop a wall defending a position. The volume of fire that could be brought down on an advancing enemy would be amazing. When it's time to reload, the traditional archers could step up their tempo a bit to provide cover.

[@synergiaeu-outland1559]

here i'm wondering is this would've added some sort of "medieval turrets" with a similar system. Just aim at a spot, lock and just "row" like you do a boat a bigger mechanism and shoot multiple loaded bolts.

[@Stilesda]

Joerg has made several wooden gatling weapons in the past. He used to focus on big crazy weapons but recently is working on practical concepts rather than flashy. It is definitely possible to make a wooden gatling bolt shooter but it woudl take some work to build it using medieval materials and methods, without plywood and screws and so forth.

[@johnbeauvais3159]

Looking at this through the lens of someone with an understanding of weapon systems of the last 100 years here are my thoughts. The longbow is highly effective as a ranged weapon with multiple archers making sustained fire but those archers have to be skilled. This weapon can act similar to how the Russian army used snipers in WWII, taking a small team and effectively denying an area to an enemy force. With the sights and the offset you suddenly do not need the strongest and most skilled archer, you can use a less valuable soldier holding a delaying position or guarding a flank while maintaining a very strong defensive posture. I see this like a light machine gun team, 2-3 people out on the edge of the line or set up in a static position holding and flushing the enemy into the path of more potent fire.

[@kmit9191]

the problem with this is the manufacture cost though. every peasant could make a bow, but engineering this requires precision

[@andresacosta5318]

P McR id say this would be relatively cheap. Not super cheap, requires some lumber and some time. But the ease of making smaller arrows would compensate that cost. Since straight pieces of wood can make more bolts per. So craftsmen and carpenters could be sufficiently skilled

[@acvaticlifE]

Ok I'm decided: I'm including this weapon in my worldbuilding project!

[@frankgelder8519]

you better include its creator, too, then.

[@OrDuneStudios]

@@frankgelder8519 mad inventer with a laugh that haunts his enemies

[@NemesisC81]

I wanna see that when it's done, so i can die happy

[@acvaticlifE]

@@OrDuneStudios It's a more exotic weapon, coming from a different continent, specific to very well trained elite archers who have the purpouse of completely disrupting and discouraging enemy lines, that could then be crushed by heavy cavalry. This style of fighting has made this particular branch of the empire quite feared. Not thinking about including the weapon in detail, explaining precisely how it works and stuff, as it would only be mentioned as "elite archers who use a very unusual type of bow that can fire multiple arrows in quick successions" and it is enough for me to know that such a weapon could exist in the context.

[@vlastikb]

Well, it has sights and trigger, so it makes it easier to learn and adopt. Well done!

[@JayandJay223344]

first time seeing any of your videos but damn, that intro is one of the smoothest things ive ever seen on KZbin

[@MerkinMuffly]

1:45 That chicken has no fucking idea ...

[@Kaminkaese]

"I get it, i get it." - everybody using the instant legolas :D

[@Katniss218]

Maybe something like a torsion engine (ballista) for the assist "bow"?

[@tods_workshop]

That was one of my thoughts too

[@Joe-pi9bx]

Maybe pulleys to extend the range of motion for the assisting bow.

[@EdToml]

@@Joe-pi9bx Though of this too. The assist bow does not need to move fast, just supply force. You could probably even use simple blocks that the string just slides through.

[@FUBARGunpla]

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[@tods_workshop]

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