From Oxycontin to Fentanyl - Mariana van Zeller on Being at the Frontlines of the Opioid Crisis

Taken from JRE #1938 w/Mariana van Zeller:
open.spotify.com/episode/3GZY...

[@michealklawitter864]

I survived 15yrs of opiate addiction and have been sober 10yrs. Most people don't know that Marijuana is the number 1 thing used to help get through withdrawal. I no longer partake but I definitely advocate for Marijuana.

[@amyhendricks3627]

I've tried MJ for my chronic pain issues. Indica, sativa - both make me so uncomfortable. Just don't like the getting high part of it. I'm currently using high CBD/low THC but only as a night-time sleep aid. Kratom is a better option for me, but I am still left with pain levels at 6-7/10.

[@MrRob49815]

Currently 12 years addicted to codeine medicine here. I take it now just stave off the withdrawals and to sleep. Can you tell me more about your experience, dosage and how long withdrawals took etc

[@Allthingsarebroken]

Kratom will leave you with withdrawals too, be careful around any opiate, even the non narcotic ones like tramadol will leave you addicted

[@adamjohnson286]

Yeah, and people should also know that studies have consistently shown that U.S. states that have legalized weed see a drop in opiate addiction. Which makes a lot of sense to me. I've been enjoying weed for 20 years straight, so much benefit, zero problem. I say everyone should use weed/CBD (meaning adults, of course).

[@FayAlexGG]

I have heard of people using kratom aswell for withdrawals

[@JayMoneyh]

Doctor prescribed me Vicodin at 16 for a sports injury and within a month or 2 had started writing me scripts of oxycodone. I was on them for a year when I should have been cut off after month 1 or 2 and when he finally stopped writing me my prescription he didn’t ween me off or even tell me I would get withdrawals. The only reason he stopped is because the medical board of directors was investigating him for over prescribing and he ended up getting his license revoked. When I felt those cold turkey withdrawals it was absolute hell so I began buying off the street. Eventually the pills ran out and became way too expensive so I had no choice and ended up using heroin. I struggled with it for a few years but became sick and tired of being sick and tired so I checked myself into rehab and have been sober since 2016

[@crispycruiser4654]

Glad you’re doing better. Stay strong.

[@Lukie2131]

You're doing great 👍 just take it one day at a time if you are having a bad day please talk to someone.

[@KB-ke3fi]

I did it cold turkey after 7 years straight. My dose was about 160 mg a day. Took me a year but I did it.

[@jayvonjayvon6147]

if u dont mind can u tell us what kind o withdrawals u had, its easy to google in but iam talking about u particularly what kind u had?

[@gregcushing1716]

@@KB-ke3fi Glad you made it through to the other side. Yikes that must have been a bitch of a year. Congrats to you 👊

[@billnye7745]

Nice to know that REAL journalists and journalism still exists out there.

[@JanetRichardson-mq5es]

I started doing drugs since my teenage. Got addicted to fentanyl for over 6 years. Fentanyl addiction actually destroyed my life. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 2 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@Qing__001]

Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.

[@Bastianbishops]

Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

[@DonnHowes]

Hey! Yes Dr.alishrooms.

[@NicoleCtirad]

I'm really happy for you that your mom decided to help you...I hear about alot of family members or so called friends shutting an addict out of their life, which since most addicts do it to mask emotions to me is the worse thing someone can do to an addict.

[@HaileyFoster-fd4ik]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@megancounce7736]

I lost EVERYTHING due to pain pills. I was 23 and getting 90 Percocet a week for endometriosis. Which lead seeking in the streets just to not be sick and luckily I got in trouble and sentenced to a drug court program. That program saved my life. 5 years sober and still rebuilding my life.

[@lifeofreilly9943]

Good for you! Be proud

[@brendaortiz930]

That’s beautiful

[@radiator2322]

90 A WEEK?!?

[@Thefinalfall]

Good for you. Stay strong.

[@bluevandal8132]

Good work. I’m glad the court system has diversion courts now.

[@gabysoto7663]

My dad always told me that drugs and alcohol addiction ran in our family & that it destroyed families. I had my first drink at 23 and wept, I told my dad because I thought it was over. I’m so grateful for all of the knowledge and wisdom he shared with my sisters and I. We don’t drink, and definitely do not do drugs. He informed us since we were able to understand. He walked out his sobriety years before he had us, and till this day he remains sober. (40 years clean) Knowledge really is power. Talk to your children, take the time to explain and don’t be afraid to be vulnerable with them about your own struggles. It makes a huge difference.

[@Kapitalist88]

Your dad & you are great guys! Love from Switzerland

[@eldenrivas7842]

I struggled with drugs and alcohol when I was young. Now I'm 31 and had my baby girl two months ago. I pray my daughter can say the same one day. I choose to fight my addictions so she doesn't have to.

[@SheepAmongGoats]

it runs in everyones family

[@dropfishboogie3869]

True. Parents at least need to plant that seed.

[@colinh.3444]

"I had my first drink at 23 and wept"😂😂😂

[@ak_2117]

I'm a recovering opioid addict myself. 20 years on 6 years sober. Lost 2 younger sisters to fentanyl and I have 1 sister left, both of us recovering. I pray for all of the lost souls and love to share my story to inspire those that can benefit from it ❤️❤️❤️

[@Meltaways]

I'm currently recovering from oxy addiction, gladly i got in the revovery program, now almost done with it! Can't wait to be free of this sh*t.

[@SpaceRanger187]

If your grown and want to do drugs,pills whatever. that is your choice..

[@beaniegirl55]

​@@SpaceRanger187can I ask what's a drug for you. As everything in our society is literally a cult and made to be addictive. Medicine, certain foods, shopping, phones, basically everything in western society has conditioned people since childhood basically brainwashed people to be addicted in fact that's how this sick society thrives from addicts.

[@beaniegirl55]

​@@SpaceRanger187I would recommend you watch in shadow to see that this world is legit a cult and it's not as simple as. You chose to do it. No one wakes up and decides I want to be an addict.

[@BannedSports]

My mother and law and i just accidentally overdosed on Fentanyl 3 days ago. We thought we were getting Roxy 30s

[@FanaseeFilms]

I had shoulder surgery at 18 and they gave my oxy…at 18. Was the most euphoria i had ever felt. Luckily enough i had seen videos like these of people talking about these issues and i knew it was only a matter of time, made a conscious decision to stop. Pain is better than losing everything around you, or your life.

[@definitelymaybe97]

I had my surgery and did not take a single prescribed pain pill. Thank God!

[@TampaBayRays9]

I had a tooth pulled when I was 12 and I was given a Vicodin prescription

[@EseEsKaliman]

I had surgery on my tonsils as a kid and was given hydrocodone my parents made me take it everyday because they thought it was just medicine but the docs kept giving me more

[@jk4l433]

I was like 16 bro

[@jk4l433]

OxyContin

[@jordanharris5013]

I struggled with an Oxy addiction for years. I pissed away all my inheritance(80k). Pissed my away my college degree. Pissed away the love of my life. Pissed away all my friendships. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I'll never forget that feeling when you wake up and you your 1st thought is how do I get pills. It's awful. You can't describe it to somebody that hasn't been through it but it's like when your not high you're having a constant panic attack about how to get more. I know it it'll sound weird but when I started I didn't think it was possible that I could get addicted. Like literally didn't think it could happen to me. I'm to good a person for it to happen to me. Yea it doesn't care where your from or who you are. Anyways stay away from drugs kids. If your trying to be cool and fit in and they have drugs, there not the friends you want. Don't even do it recreationally.

[@SethTraplifeGLO999]

Right there with you bro. Fighting a relapse rn too. The price has dropped to like 1/4 the price which baited me in (still my fault 100%) It's so terribly how quickly it can grab you right back up

[@ironpersonheart9456]

Damn respect for you to put it out like that, takes a lot of power. I don’t think you should just stay away from drugs like that but it’s such a slippery slope. Have seen it happen around me one to many times. Good health and good luck to you on your journey 🍀

[@clowngirl76]

@@SethTraplifeGLO999 keep fighting and don't give up 🙏🤍

[@chaviusrandall216]

💜

[@josephhertzberg2734]

I appreciate your effort to get clean and the warning, but some of the us don't get addicted and would like to be able to use whatever we want legally. I've used opiates a lot over the decades, all of them except fent and never had a problem. When I was on day 2 or 3, my innate self preservation reflex would kick in. I've never enjoyed being high day after day, it gets boring and I start to miss the sharpness of sober reality. However I do love to be high occasionally. I wish I could buy morphine or heroin opium, hydrocodone etc. and be certain it wasn't fentanyl. Some of us can use and not spiral, I've done it my whole life, lately not at all out of fear of od from fake drugs

[@ericbarnett6771]

I am in the middle of having a post implanted in my jaw to replace a broken tooth. While not excruciating, the pain was enough to keep me awake for a few nights. Neither the dentist nor my doctor would prescribe any pain meds. They basically told me to just deal with it. Providers are now terrified of prescribing opioid analgesics, even for surgical patients who would benefit from them.

[@thehutch7728]

And THAT is the problem! People who have addiction problems will be addicted no matter what. I’ve been on painkillers for YEARS. I’ve never experienced any euphoria or other “good/fun” side effects, but I have to drive three hours and jump through a ton of hoops to keep getting the meds that keep me from being bedridden. People were cut cold turkey and self deleted because the pain is unbearable and they were no longer going to get relief. Like everything else in this country, it’s like a pendulum, and it swings too far one way, someone “corrects” it only to swing too far the other way 🙄

[@Thefinalfall]

Pack a bowl. You'll get through.

[@jpslaym0936]

Ive had 4 reconstruction surgeries from skiing injuries starting in 2000s when opiates would be prescribed. What I learned is that ibuprofen actually reduces pain better than opiates which actually just change ur state of mind to where you dont seem to mind the pain. Now when I was directly post Op thats different they give u a clicker the doses max of 3 clicks per 4 hour period. After gettin out of the hospital I found Ibuprofen actually works better for that type of pain

[@jpslaym0936]

@@thehutch7728 You now Ive been prescribed opiates for surgeries and I found that the "high" I get from an intense aerobic workout is actually higher than pills. Actually when you take an opiate pill it blocks natural high from exercising and it pissed me off. Its not as good

[@SheepAmongGoats]

Yup from one extreme to the other.

[@frglaf4187]

Both my mother and stepfather were doctors. Even in their early 30’s in the late 1980’s, they confided at the dinner table that they felt something was wrong and manipulative about the manner of the “drug reps”. They were old-school doctors, but they tell me to this day about the sad trajectory of medicine.

[@candicemorgan979]

Drug reps saved my life... Im sad the hospitals here where I know med staff have ban reps... have a family member who is a doc and I would get strep all the time (a scary amount) as a kid... they came out with z-packs and gave my fam member samples which they took some home and had the rest at the office ... I got strep right before I was going abroad (literally the night before I was to leave) and they came through with a z-pack sample (the entire 5 doses- which wow! Only 5 pills!) for me! And the z-packs are amazing! I have taken them ever since whenever I need antibiotics ... but the pill samples were the best bc I could get stuff I needed right away! If I hadn’t gotten the z-pack that night (all the pharmacies were closed by then aside from in ERs), I would’ve gotten terribly sick from the strep 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@STOP2NWO]

You got great insight into the problem of drug dealers GPs...

[@israelmyhome1]

Living in Canada, I had a bad back injury, it took a year to see a surgeon and meanwhile I was getting 6 OxyContin 80mg a day, I got addicted, ended up going to multiple dr’s and doing up to 1600mg a day, turned into a 15 year addiction, I was doing 2-4 grams of fentanyl a day! I’m now almost 6 months sober… I was psilocybin what saved my life!

[@kurtsteven6228]

It couldn’t have done much for being sick for the first 10 days or so.

[@cuckertarlson3329]

Good job buddy keep it up 👍 a sober life is such a better life in every way.

[@israelmyhome1]

@@cuckertarlson3329 my life changed 180, I never thought I could get sober, I ruined my life, health and financially I lost my house to drugs, but sobriety is possible, I’m actually happy now and on the right path. I’m grateful!

[@israelmyhome1]

@@kurtsteven6228 I know what withdrawal is, trust me! And I did have withdrawal, although it was so minor that I can’t even complain about it. I can only talk about my experience! A lot of friends and family are still in disbelief, but I’m trying to tell everyone I can because i believe it saved my life, maybe a huge dose of mushrooms is not for everyone, but it saved my life!!

[@kurtsteven6228]

@@israelmyhome1 well I think it’s awesome. I believe after you go through the sickness and are in good spirits and good place and not in the middle of detox, I think they could help a lot! I also know someone who did dmt and mushrooms an he’s been clean since and that was about 7 years ago. It definitely worth a shot but I just don’t think taking a 1/8th or something like that is recommended. But all I hear is good things about it. I believe it helps rewire your brain for the good. We’re you going through detox when taking them? How many times did you take them and how much if you don’t mind me asking?

[@Jmeez69]

4 months off of methadone after being on that for 4 years after being a IV heroin addict….. I am the only person I know who managed to get off Methadone and still be alive. I pray I can stay strong and keep it that way.

[@seashley8931]

They need to be making it easier to get off methadone

[@angelategos7217]

congratulations!!

[@MP-tj5xv]

You got this!

[@jbl7946]

Keep Truckin man....wow that's a statement to about bein the only one that's scary!!

[@leeduncan8764]

How you feeling after four months. No the withdrawal can drag on coming off methadone. How low did you go on the taper if you don't mind me asking??

[@0923natalie]

I filed a complaint with the AMA against a Dr in 2013 that continuously prescribed Oxy to a friend that anyone could see he was an addict. The AMA informed me later by mail that they had closed the case. Nothing was done to this Dr. The Dr made a comment to my dead friend’s mother about how “much my letter inconvenienced him” but never apologized to his mother for starting & fueling his addiction. I hate him so much & miss my friend.

[@Nick-ws3vv]

How about naming this doctor? Do you really care about this?

[@user-xf3cu4le5z]

Ya most medical associations and institutes are corrupt if you follow the money

[@protestthisyouloser1093]

Name?

[@laureldevine]

Back in 2001 I went to my gynecologists because of painful monthly periods - I walked out with a prescription for 60 Oxycontins with 6 refills! I had no idea what they were but I took 2, as directed, and felt high as a kite. I literally felt like I was melting from the head down. After staring at the wall in a state of pure, stoned bliss for 3 hours, I dumped the rest of the bottle in the garbage and never took them again. I thank God every day when I see places like skid row and Kensington PA and all the opioid addiction. By the grace of God go I.

[@madtown99980]

You dodged a major bullet with that decision Laurel!

[@paulfrancis4227]

Yes, I hear you. I had knee surgery in 2000, and was given Oxy and Tylenol. I didn't know anything, and took an oxy while watching the hockey game. I'll never forget the drifting ease and odd empty joy I felt. It was so lovely. But -- call it luck? -- that was it. I used the tylenol from there.

[@katrinaolsen2444]

I’m wondering why they didn’t give you Hydrocodone? But seriously, these days people with legitimate chronic pain are having a difficult time getting pain medication. Tylenol kills your liver and Ibuprofen kills your kidneys. Opioid medication doesn’t damage your body. It’s the Tylenol that goes with Oxycodone and Norco that’s more dangerous. People have been saved from the OD of Oxy and Norco; only to die because they were in liver failure.

[@laureldevine]

@@katrinaolsen2444 I have no idea. I didn't even know what they were until people started talking about the years later. I didn't realize the issues they caused either until very recently. Thank god I didn't want to feel stoned out of my mind - luckily I had 2 small children at the time and I was freaked out at how high they made me - that's the main reason I threw them away and ripped up the prescription.

[@jbetnar]

​@@laureldevine it's crazy what some doctors give for some ailments. My wife had terrible periods and her GYN only gave her a script for Motrin

[@jeri629]

I can’t even understand this. They’ve cracked down on the doctors so hard, in the last few years, people that need pain meds can’t get them! My mom is 85, and has chronic back pain. Her doctor won’t give her anything to help her. She suffers constantly. It pisses me off to no end. I have chronic back and hip pain. I can’t get anything to help, and otc doesn’t touch it. It’s ridiculous.

[@sadhu7191]

I just took kratom after hernia surgery after pills ran out

[@jimbean6500]

Yes it’s insane and barbaric that their making people that are extremely sick suffer in major pain.

[@campoilse7111]

Opiods do not help with chronic pain. I am recovering from them so I know I have a neurostimulator now and for the last 2 years I can actually live again

[@8KGHOST]

Had a badddd injury my senior year of highschool, doctors gave me oxy ... the entire time i was in so much pain and later on afterwards i found my mom wasn't giving me the oxy but something else instead...lowkey grateful for that

[@JJ-vp3bd]

your mom looked out for you

[@Allthingsarebroken]

Sadly my parents didn’t have the same fortitude, got me way too many hydros for wisdom teeth then left me home alone for a week while they went on vacation, 20 years later and Im on methadone

[@jimbean6500]

I had major surgery when I was young, without the pain medication I would have gone into shock, some people absolutely need these medications, they allow their crippled bodies to go to work, live a somewhat normal life.

[@metalheaddw05]

@@Allthingsarebroken Same. I've been on MMT off and on for 15 years.

[@misterbright1336]

What if your mom was taking them herself?

[@Jonosolongo]

I survived bowel cancer but became addicted to oxies and it was much worse than cancer to give up. Thanks doc!

[@kari8187]

I survived 10 years of pills, 7th year sober this April. It makes me so sad to see the fentanyl and deaths everywhere. I’ve lost former classmates to OD , too many are gone for no reason.

[@rh81454]

Happy for you. Were you taking them via a doctor prescription? or buying it via a dealer?

[@kari8187]

@@rh81454 doctor prescription, never needed the street dealers

[@rh81454]

@@kari8187 Yeah that makes sense. Happened to a friend of mine. Just so you know, we love you, and wish the best for you. Keep doing what you're doing staying clean.

[@TTOS69]

That's pretty much how it happened to me. Started on hydrocodone in highschool for a dental problem. Then began using oxys for fun. Then I got addicted and couldn't afford the amount of mgs I needed to get off, so I switched to herion. This was one to two years before fentanyl took over. Then I ended up on fentanyl for over 5 years, went to jail and got clean. Relapsed last year in February on Fentanyl and I'm still addicted right now. I'm going to rehab at the end of March, so wish me luck yal! Warn your kids, friends, family, fkn dog to not take pain killers more than they need, it WILL ruin and completely engulf your life!

[@DevyJ]

Good luck in rehab! You’ve got this🤘🏽

[@Handsdown83]

Good luck

[@joeroganreviewexperience9964]

Good luck hope you succeed live is better without drugs.

[@chhewee]

use za za or gas station heroin, I here it gives good buzz🤷‍♂️

[@tbrowniscool]

Holy shit man I'm really hoping you get better. I struggle with addiction (booze) and it's so hard to even imagine a life without it. If you ever want to chat if your feeling down please reach out to me. High fives and hugs from the UK ❤❤

[@williamemanuel537]

Removed due to the amount of Hate Mail I get from the Addicts trying to justify their usage. If you were offended by the story of my daughters OD/Death, that's a YOU problem. Get some help. And Congrats to all the people who have gotten Sober off this shit!

[@crispycruiser4654]

It is not “worse than any other drug ever.” Addiction is not the only metric on whether a drug is dangerous. Look up fluoroquinolone antibiotics. These are neurotoxic poisonous bioweapons that crippled me at 31 years old and have disabled marathon runners permanently from one single pill. Doctors should be in Gitmo on terrorism charges for giving them out. But I’m very sorry about your daughter.

[@ronaldmoparornocar9590]

Sorry for your loss doesn't seem like it is enough to help you get through the heart ache and pain.... No words can replace your loss Sir hopefully she is in a better place with God 🙏

[@steveoshortt4791]

FJB

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Corporate America and many rich old men have likely acquired some yachts, hookers, houses, and boats thanks to situations like your own. That's just the American Way. High profits, low costs--the only way the rich like to play ball. Lives are meaningless when compared to thousands of dollars!

[@shahin5153]

Bro wtf I’m sorry for your loss and it’s your call on whatever helps you cope the best but cmon man you don’t need to be telling the world about how she made money, let her rest man

[@RS-chino]

This comment section is beautiful. So much respect for everyone who has survived addiction and so much sorrow for those who didn’t make it or are still struggling through it right now. There are people who love you and want you to find yourself again.

[@user-yw6ln2iv4l]

Look up the handle on my name above, he got shrooms, dmt, lsd, dmt carts, ketamines, mdma, infused chocolate bars, Xanax and microdosing capsules. He got alot and ships swiftly

[@protestthisyouloser1093]

Talking has been needed

[@matthewprovost9879]

Coming from being an addict and a part of the Oxycontin era, I managed to get out of it. Only after 17 years of moving from Oxycontin to Perc 30s to heroin for the last 8 years of my addiction. I have lost so many friends to opiate overdoses. I have been clean for 8 years as of 1/4/2023. To say the least, that shit still comes to me in my dreams about using and waking up feeling high. It never goes away even to this day. This shit is a real and, still a struggle for so many people to this day.

[@bobbyscott420]

I have dreams still too. Even wake up thinking of them fir a boost after all these years

[@bobbyscott420]

I'd like try shrooms for depression n addiction

[@albou1]

Joe, you are the man. Thank you for all these incredible episodes.

[@bobbyosborne2375]

Lost 2 brothers and most of my old friends to pills, heroin, and fentanyl. I've been to 7 or 8 funerals over a 5 year period because of this stuff.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

It's the American way. Sad, but... it's just what the rich pharmaceutical companies do to be able to afford yachts, the best clothes and food, hookers, houses, and new cars. People have to die so that they can live it up. Again, sad, but that's corporate, capitalistic, Chumptastic America.

[@gti5700]

Sorry bro

[@heroiccombatengineer6018]

Let me try to relieve you a bit. Atleast the addiction supported our economy, the pharma companies thank everyone for their help.

[@coolhorse13]

It was illicit fentanyl that killed your friends, not legitimate pain medication from people with real prescriptions

[@martinjuan5521]

Stay strong brother 💪💪💪

[@EyesonEnforcement911]

I used to be heavily addicted to Oxy's... That experience was an absolute nightmare that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy... thankfully I'm sober now. I never tried Fentanyl (luckily), but I had at least 5 friends overdose & die from it. When they tell you as a kid to not do drugs, they mean it.

[@adamjohnson286]

Don't do recreational opiates specifically. There are a lot of "drugs." Some even effectively treat opiate addiction, such as ibogaine and ayahuasca.

[@Bring_Back_Stargate]

@@adamjohnson286 And drugs like suboxone too. And when I finally got off of that, I was put on Kadian for my chronic pain. And it's awesome to hear that you're doing well!! Keep it up! Good luck to you!! 💯🤞🙏👍

[@jzblue345]

Yeah it just wasn't anywhere near the level it is now. I don't think people expected things to get this bad this is a literal worst case scenario it's like the movie a scanner darkly being manifested into reality pretty terrifying.

[@riahynanevamynd7698]

Kratom saved me from opiate withdrawal so I was able to quit. If anyone doesn't yet know, kratom safely removes all withdrawal effects but you can't use opiates at the same time or it doesn't work. I am grateful & feel really lucky this natural plant exists & i was able to obtain it ❤️ long term opiate use is a friggin nightmare

[@MaddoxMelton]

@@riahynanevamynd7698then you’ll eventually get addicted to kratom and withdraw on that. Sure you can use it for withdraws. But I wouldn’t make it a habit for that

[@MithridatesVI32]

The worst part about getting sober is dealing with all of the people who think little of us. Very hard especially when you're forcing yourself to get clean.

[@Chris12987]

It also sucks when our whole identity becomes the drugs. I feel personally like I wouldn’t know how to live without it which makes me struggle to even get help. I also had someone say to me who is sober now there is no such thing as an ex addict all it takes is one bad day. I hope you’re doing well.

[@ryryreactzz9382]

Amen it sucks I find my self in solitude a lot when I was the life of the party in my hay day but that’s ok I guess it just makes you a little stronger !

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Go to meetings and make friends. Look for the similarities instead of the differences

[@MithridatesVI32]

@@Chris12987 i'm 2 years into recovery from fentanyl. I'm 3 months off of suboxone. Doing very well. Hope you're also good.

[@MithridatesVI32]

@Nathan Navarrete facts. I never fully appreciated how dangerous it is to live without having knowledge of that idea.

[@Sadtoday]

I dropped out of high school months before graduating because my ex introduced me to heroin. This was in 2013/2014. It’s took many years of my life and I ended up in prison. I’m not a college graduate, certified in substance use disorder counseling, and a mother. We have lost way too many good people to the suppertime heck and not much has been done to actually help or support the community and it’s really sad. No mother should have to bury their child and that’s exactly what’s happening right now.

[@wvusmc]

I left home for the military in 2000 and these drugs were never around, I come home years later and my state was destroyed by opiates. Our current state Attorney General was a lobbiest for Perdue Pharmaceuticals and helped push oxy into West Virginia. Years later as AG he was forced to sue the same company over flooding the state with their drugs.

[@CarbonHippo]

Great comment

[@mrrooster4876]

they hit the east coast and midwest around 99.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

That's how it goes. Old rich guys see dollar signs in trade for lives and they don't blink twice. Corporate capitalism at its finest. The American Way.

[@Garrick1983]

@@Novastar.SaberCombatright before capitalism there was no addiction. You could easily say science killed these people based on creating most of these drugs. Keep stroking your narrative.

[@heroiccombatengineer6018]

Never forget what you are fighting for 💪

[@fast_eddi]

This opioid thing is so scary. It destroyed my life. I was 16 when I sustained my first leg injury from bmx and skateboarding and had multiple surgeries. I just had a knee surgery as well at 24, and they prescribed oxy to me and it sent me down a dark rabbit hole. I had to go to rehab. Completely destroyed me. Not to mention the physical damage stomach pains, ibs, insomnia and the worst is the cravings. Oh yeah I lost everything and everyone that mattered to me. Very intense… be careful with drugs (:

[@vallivergano239]

Same here. With a very rare, genetic auto-inflammatory disease that affects all my internal organs, I needed heart and pulmonary surgery. I was in excruciating pain, so my specialist put me on Oxy, I never knew it would ruin my life completely. I would never have imagined I'd become addicted at all. Landed up in rehab because I had to take the oxy just to feel normal. The withdrawals were something I could never ever wish on my worst enemy. The muscle aches alone would make me scream. Dark...dark days..

[@fast_eddi]

@@vallivergano239 yeah that’s the thing, it’s something you don’t even wish on your worst enemy. It’s so heavy.

[@psicodom]

❤

[@psicodom]

Sending love your way

[@fast_eddi]

@@psicodom THANK YOU 🙏🏼 🙏🏼🙏🏼 I needed that. As I’m sitting on the toilet for 45 minutes😂✌🏼

[@Mr.Boring_Man]

Congratulations to all the recovering survivors!

[@drews418]

After reading the comments, it’s comforting to know I’m not alone in my struggles with opiates. But it’s fuckin sickening to see how we all have damn near the same story about how we ended up addicted. So I just want to tell everyone to stay strong, and we’ll beat our demons one of these days. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Y’all stay strong 🫡

[@WingsWithWax]

I worked as a substance abuse counselor in a methadone clinic and struggled with substance abuse myself. The ability to get better comes within. Resources are incredibly helpful but without that internal drive to get better, all the resources in the world won’t help.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Bingo

[@madtown99980]

Methadone is not the answer.. sitting in waiting room every morning waiting for your hit of another chemical opiate; those clinics stay open by KEEPING you addicted

[@tonyrhoton6613]

Methadone trading 1 drug 4 another they abuse that stuff also I no some that get soboxin 2 help with getting off pills now they abuse that

[@Dopefoot]

exactly The entire time I was in rehab. I couldn't stop thinking about it cause all we did was talk about it and talk about it and talk and the cravings were getting worse and worse. So as soon as I got out I wanted to get high again. At that time, I obviously didn't wanna stop. At one Point I said to myself you have a family coming it's everything you always wanted so find a way out now. The great things I have now are because I did stop and I do not wanna ever, ever go back. I will never touch a synthetic drug or alcohol again and I have zero cravings ever. So I don't get these people that say Drug addiction is a disease You can't help it. No, it is not a disease It is in your mind and you can help it. It is your will to stop living that life, That is all that does. It is your own will don't blame it on anything else. You just need to stop. That's it. You want it to end you just actually need to want to stop and that's all. The path out physically is Cannabis it's saved me and I now devote my life to it and teaching others how to create their own natural medicines from the Cannabis plant. I've found my purpose and it's the help ppl get off hard drugs with the Cannabis strains I'm creating. Try 1:1 CBD / THC cannabis it works wonders for the shocking withdrawals and bone pain.

[@WingsWithWax]

@@Dopefoot we were conducting research with cbd at the clinic I was at and the effects on opioid dependency. Congratulations btw man stay strong

[@marcatteberry1361]

I am 55. For 23 years I have been forced to take narcotics to survive. 2 back surgeries, left me in horrible intractable pain. I have had my teeth removed after an accident. 3 years ago I contracted a rare form of liver cancer. More surgery, and chemo.. I am in constant pain. I dont drink, never been arrested. And am a disabled Veteran. I struggle with doctors and politicians telling me to reduce or stop taking pain medication… I have done nothing wrong, but am treated like a criminal at pain management clinic.

[@Andrew-zx9wx]

Sorry to hear that. It is terribly reckless mentality that all pain narcotic pain medicine is bad. Living in pain is terrible and people that do not have that experience (every day!) have no idea.

[@stoegerstewie8351]

Kratom works.

[@marcatteberry1361]

@@stoegerstewie8351 I signed away over 20 limitations on my freedoms, Kratom being one of them. I also cannot own a handgun while prescribed narcotics… And yes Kratom works. I have used it in the past.

[@BobbyJ1998]

I’m 26! At my age they automatically look at you like your a drug addict even though I don’t drink or smoke. I just want to live a productive life but that’s too much to ask for nowadays. People with good intentions are being misled at our expense sadly.

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

Look into Kratom

[@Corinaggi]

Great episode. I'm going to check her show out now.

[@TheGreenNewSteal2025]

I had two total knee replacements and oxy really made recovery tolerable. Thankfully I was terrified of getting addicted and my Dr was super stingy with the prescriptions. Even after a month I still felt mild withdrawl and that only reinforced my determination to stop. They’re scary because they work so well.

[@allyeee]

I had a surgery at 18.. 13:39 right when the Drs were prescribing like crazy. They gave me 20 pills for a “week” of pain I was going to be in. I remember the pharmacists face when she looked at the note… I’ll never forget it. I only took 3 pills because the pain was unbearable and threw out the rest.

[@PrescottCaliberClub]

For many years I’ve been in tremendous pain. Was always told nothing was wrong with me. I almost offed myself many times because I couldn’t get any help. Go figure, I was finally diagnosed with an incurable disease that explains my pain totally. 20 years asking for help and literally dying… As risky as pain medication is, it has absolutely changed my life for the better. I now eat healthy, lost 80 pounds, started training Jujitsu and none of that was possible before. I’ve been on them for about 5-6 years now. Still have a lot of pain, but I can get out of my bed now and get active. So it’s not all bad… it’s just a risky medication.

[@bromisovalum8417]

well it does have legitimate medical uses

[@timothydamiani]

Good to hear youre doing better, if you dont mind me asking what was said disease?

[@jasonmellone8902]

Yup like everything else the few ruin it for the many.

[@Bring_Back_Stargate]

I'm so happy that you know not to over-medicate!! There's so few of us that know this. In my case, it took me being so sick and tired of being "sick and tired, and in withdrawals, etc" to realize that I can actually take these kinds of meds and use them as directed. But I MUST admit, it ALSO took me to realize that I needed to get AWAY from the ppl I was "hanging around" with, to finally be able to do this for myself! I mean It's completely different for everyone. But I absolutely have to thank the support I had around me, bc if it wasn't for those supportive ppl, I wouldn't have been able to do it...just facts. But I also have to thank myself thou too. Bc I was finally in the mindset to realize that I needed out, and to quit being an ass and screwing up my life. 🤷‍♀️🙏🤞🤗

[@chuckruckus3648]

5 back surgeries. I’m on a low dose. Saved my life

[@yoitsdaman]

Found out about her from this podcast like 10+ years ago. Still a fan. Great work!

[@yoitsdaman]

@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 Hey Lucifer, Knock it off! Demon bastard

[@blockraven22]

same here, i remember her talking about being able to buy ak-47s through craigslist at the time lol

[@G-Tay]

Mariana van Zeller is awesome, she does some great work and I love watching her frontline documentaries.

[@greciabenz]

The topic of addiction really pulls at my heart strings. I sympathize so much with everyone who suffers from this. I 100% recognize the addictive tendencies within my personality. I’m so blessed that I’ve never had any life changing injury or surgery, especially during the Purdue epidemic. I have a horrible feeling that I would have become a statistic, and I’m aware that the possibility is unfortunately always there. We all trust that our doctors have our health at the core of their intentions.. RIP to all the victims of this awful epidemic. I also want to note that once, in Arkansas, I was prescribed Percocet for a sprained ankle. Very mil pain, but I was still prescribed a singular pill. It was the most intense euphoria ever. I immediately understood the danger of these drugs. I’m so thankful and blessed they were never at my disposal.

[@klew5988]

After being hooked on oxy for about 3 years and heroin 2 years I finally got clean. When I sobered up I moved away from the area I was living with everything I had left, 25 years old and everything i owned in the world I packed into 2 trash bags and took with me. 8 years later and I have a wonderful life, I got married had 3 kids started my career and bought our first house. I do use Marijuana and I get it legally. I lost all desire for alcohol and partying and its been years since I've had an opiate craving. Oxys fentanyl heroin it's all the same thing it ruined everyone I knew that was on it. They need to get that stuff off the streets its ruining this country worse than any political party

[@Omerta1706]

Love this ladies documentaries! She’s got balls, goes to slums all over the world, risking her life for a great story. May God be with this woman, while she continues to do what she does. Keep it up

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

An actual journalist! So rare these days

[@Z287899]

Too bad her latest doc on natgeo is completely staged.

[@badxradxandy]

I think she's a c you next Tuesday

[@heroiccombatengineer6018]

@@meoprsdni66er and a good cockslap in the face.

[@jameskelly1248]

American Pain is an amazing film, if anyone hasn’t seen it yet, definitely watch it. As someone who got wrapped up into this Opioid crisis torture as a kid in 2004 and used to travel from CT to Florida to score OC’s, this film nails it perfectly.

[@Kvothe_The_Bloodless]

I had a about a 8 year addiction... been sober for 5 stay strong people and it gets better and there is help out there

[@johnstevens9673]

I also was addicted to oxycontin for 5 years and eventually moved to harder drugs because they were easier to get. I spent 10 years total. I actually went to Florida with people from the east coast and there were thousands of people from all over the country that would come to Florida to get their oxys and take them back to their state. I never did any drugs or touched anything until I was subscribed oxycontin, it took just a couple of weeks from first starting oxys I was already at the point were my body was physically dependent I would get the sickest Ive ever been in my life if I stopped taking it. I eventually went to a long term rehab, got clean. Shortly after meet someone and in no time she was pregnant. Meeting her and having a child saved my life and keep me clean. Ive been clean now since 2009.

[@Savage_D_508]

Joe you the best Podcast in the World due to the knowledge that you bring us.

[@jeansundstrom3629]

Absolutely!!! 💯 Go Joe!!

[@jeansundstrom3629]

So sad the whole kickback thing…..

[@mb4740]

I was 22 and a 5 2 female with a small frame… I was in a car accident where I full broke my clavicle and tail bone. Worst pain of my life and a rough recovery was prescribed Oxy. Honestly I remember it not helping the pain ENOUGH and so I would try to take more and (at the beginning of recovery) I just felt like nothing was strong enough for the pain. it just knocked me out and made me not feel like I was ‘there’. Luckily for me I’ve always hated taking pills at all and didn’t get addicted. But I can totally see how it gets people after that experience of feeling like this pill is going to help me.

[@dustin2901]

I had a bad opiate addiction for about 16 years. I dated a girl in my neighborhood when I was about 16 or 17 and her and her sister would get really bad pain from a pancreas problem that they both had and they were both prescribed oxycottin. So one day she asked me if I wanted to try some and I made probably the worst decision in my life. I loved it at first but it became a bad addiction pretty fast. We eventually broke up and I would buy pills off the streets and they kept getting more ridiculously expensive but I've been clean now for about 6 years.

[@drugsarebad97]

Iv watched everything this woman has done for many years. She’s truly a staple for investigative journalism and we MUST remember her legacy

[@kevyncole4698]

She put a spin on motorcycle clubs that was pathetic......don't believe the nonsense she provides.....has nothing to do with this conversation but she is a sensationalist.......she has no idea about what she is talking about......sorry I'm ranting but everyone has a different perspective and motives for their actions and money and noteriety has become a prevalent thing lately

[@drugsarebad97]

@@kevyncole4698 buddy she’s been around for decades . Go watch her old stuff

[@kevyncole4698]

I'm just saying invistigated journalism by one person is not trustworthy.....agenda always surpasses the truth......I will not talk about her because I do not know her but truth is learned not watched on tv with other objectives.....I have learned that in my old age....I should have never commented on this clip because I know all too well what this drug epidemic has done to so many people and I agree with her....but I will always object to one sided sensational views that talks about a few over many....

[@drugsarebad97]

@@kevyncole4698 buddy your so far mis-informed about her. For decades she’s been on the front lines of every issue you could possibly imagine . Arms trafficking , drugs, cartels, slave trading. You name it, she’s been in their homes. She’s been with cartel overlords who personally explain the business , she’s followed the arms trade from producer to end user , she’s as real as it gets there isn’t any bias in her reporting. Try not to just assume every journalist is corrupt you old school moron

[@drugsarebad97]

@@kevyncole4698 literally just look her name up , you’ll see the work she’s done for many years

[@themarketm8382]

I watched the documentary "The Trade" on HBO and one thing that changed my entire perspective on addiction is that at a certain point people aren't chasing the drug for the high, they're chasing it so they stop feeling deathly sick. Once you build a tolerance to opioids & your serotonin drops off a cliff when you're sober & you're withdrawal symptoms are firing, people are actually medically sick at that point. The government needs to solve the issues that causes people to turn to drugs & also start treating addiction as an illness and begin looking for ways to cure that illness rather than criminalizing it.

[@Mike-fx4nu]

Withdrawal of opiates is a week long bad flu.

[@timothyleffel3186]

vanguard was the best news show of its era. i was so bummed when i realized they just weren't putting out episodes anymore. glad to see MVZ getting well-deserved recognition

[@danielmorgan4134]

I suffer from a very rare spinal disorder. And it sickens me that people like myself have to jump through hoops and sometimes be completely denied of medicine because of knuckleheads in this country abusing drugs. I have to maintain my way of life through medication. And that helps me live my best life. Without medication I am at a level 9 sleepless nights and terrible depression because I just want pain to stop. There are people that need these drugs like myself. And why don't we focus on the border as well from all the fentanyl that's pouring over. I just love listening to people that never dealt with severe pain on a daily basis talk about who needs what kind of medicine.

[@catharperfect7036]

Stupid comment. People get prescribed for various reasons and get trapped in addiction. In fact addicts will almost always justify the situation like YOU DO.

[@JasonBrown-dd7dj]

Unless your a cancer patient or end of life you don't need oxycontin

[@timswaves]

I worked in the SUD/MH (substance abuse/mental health) field for a decade, being drawn to it after overcoming my own issues. I was non-medical staff and mostly outreach on the front lines. I've administered Narcan over 30 times, had 6 people die in my lap (4 of them friends) , had to call families to tell them their children were gone or in ICU. Between personally and professionally i've lost hundreds (if not over 1,000) beautiful souls. My primary Dr recently told me I've probably experienced as much trauma as many active duty military he's treated. For my well being, I had to step away from the genocide thats happening in OUR country (just take a look at Kensington PA). Each year since (I believe) 2021 we lose the same amount of lives as we did during the entire vietnam war. The fallout of parentless children, decimated communities, social divide IN ADDITION to the mind numbing death rate is something that is yet to be known. Hug the ones you love, this fallout knows no boundaries

[@virginianative847]

I lived in ground zero of the Prescription Pain Pill epidemic in the Appalachian mtns. By the age of 29 I have lost 6 friends from overdose, and so many family members got hooked and it took over our little Mtn communities. And the downside it a lot of us work in the coal mines now that we have actual physical problems doctors won’t help us from this area because they think we all want hillbilly Herron. It ruined us with addiction and ruined us for getting help actually getting the right pain medication for the ones who actually need it.

[@reneepolin6549]

Kratom is an Herbal pain reliever that actually has opiate in it . Our bodies are made to recurve natural remedies . Red vien is the strongest for pain relief take at night , Green vien works well for anxiety has less pain relief , white vien is good for morning it's feels like coffee and has less pain relief than green and red . Hopefully you live in a state that hasn't banned it's use . Big Pharma is trying to have it banned in all 50 states strictly to cut off the competition . Shameful

[@ScarfinUSA]

I've seen this woman before. She's good and has a great voice I could listen to her talk for hours

[@chillycereal]

It's one of the hardest fights getting off and away from Opioids. It took me almost 9 years. I had been clean for 3 1/2 years when I broke my back at work. They gave me something in my IV. It made me feel as if the three years counted for nothing. They tried to load me up on prescription but told them I wouldn't take the pain medicine. They got upset and made me feel like a jack a** but they don't know is that. I wanted those bottles almost more than eating or drinking. Every Dr appointment they throw more pills in my face and I can't take them. Every time I say no it's like my body releases a chemical. I instantly get a high for a few minutes. As if my body is trying to force me to take it. It's crazy that some of these doctors are just making future problems.

[@theonehappyorc1235]

Keep it up, you are an example for those around, even if they are too weak to admit it.

[@inkedmomblu1510]

Maybe tell them to mark in your file that you are in recovery and will not take the meds. Tell them to stop asking you. I bet they would respect that. Either way, I’m proud of you. I’m in recovery and know how hard it is. The meds they gave you in your iv does not take away from those 3&1/2 years. That was an emergency and administered by medical professionals in a hospital setting. That’s way different than doing it willingly for fun in your buddies living room. You should be very proud of all your hard work. I’m cheering you on!

[@terrellbeaton1796]

Was addicted to Opes for 5 years . Lost everything . Worst thing ever happend to me. That being said ,there are real people in pain ,and these pills change there lives . I feel for those suffering from chronic pain ,who can't get a script for what they need ,because people like me abused the shit out of them and fycked everything up for them .

[@heroiccombatengineer6018]

Thanks for that junkie

[@tamo9659]

That’s the thing. We have to take responsibility. I’m ashamed we did that..

[@omniamericana2172]

War on drugs worked exactly as it was intended.

[@dnpchallenge]

Yep, destruction of the black American family

[@weseethetruth158]

Yep to make people stupid addicted and generating revenue.

[@soulfuzz368]

America never had a war on drugs. If you compare what America did to other countries like Japan, South Korea and Singapore, it wasn’t a war at all.

[@omniamericana2172]

@@soulfuzz368 Not a good comparison. THEY describe it as such, and you do realize it’s a metaphor right? “War on poverty”

[@soulfuzz368]

@@omniamericana2172 I think its more propaganda than a metaphor. My point is that America never really tried to stop drug use in their population in any real way. What happened was that the appearance of such was presented in order to satisfy their voting base who wanted something done about the destruction of their communities.

[@edriley2703]

I had the exact same experience as Joe after taking a percocet due to pain from a shoulder dislocation. Sat on the couch staring at the TV like a zombie. One pill, one time, and I was done with that shit. I managed the pain through natural health and meditation.

[@michaelherrmann6963]

You are absolutely right, I was addicted, well I guess I always be an addict of everything and I was a zombie on Percocet. Splashed water on my face and said no more. I'm lucky and wish more beautiful soles were like you and said no more!

[@nathanhuffines]

Pain pills are like speed for me. Never got the zombie thing.

[@fandam801]

@@nathanhuffines yeah everyone has a different reaction I guess, I would get so much stuff done on oxys. My productivity was off the charts on those things, I would literally be knocking out tasks one after the next on those.

[@johnhoran2129]

Well Done Bruv.Keep it up it’ll get better with every day that passes,believe me I know.😎👍

[@Snakemommamandi]

I admire Mariana, I can’t wait to listen to this whole episode! 😍❤️

[@emroberts9274]

This lady helped everyone have to go to the street for their meds for their pain and people with addiction who could get legal prescriptions and now they are dying in droves

[@rochellesmith5097]

Exactly

[@jamesj9537]

Is that you, Purdue Pharma?

[@levi1991rolfe]

Next time try and use some punctuation.

[@DailyViralVideoz]

I lost over 25 people to the opiod crisis, one being my grandma 😢 This is so tragic, I wish we could have known even the doctors weren't in our best interest! Together we stand ❤️ I love you all, we suffer together 🙏🏼

[@Roweus1998]

25? What the hell dude…

[@TheStringBreaker]

*Mariana Van Zeller and her series on Nat Geo are awesome! Highly recommend!*

[@tay7366]

I can’t function without codine There’s pain that goes away and there is incurable chronic pain that never ends.

[@kungfu82able]

Pain well managed, allows the patient to mobilize earlier. Early mobilization is a key component in recovery from certain orthopedic surgeries. A hip fracture for example, you are expected to demonstrate some mobility after 24hrs of surgery and some doctors may even say less time than that.

[@ByWayOfDeception]

I haven't seen a thread in a long time so full of sincere and impactful stories. Even accounting for the percentage that are probably not true, it is a lot. This is something our culture and society has to address. We are to a degree but for lack of a better word its painful.

[@michellebattersby3243]

I love watching Maria's show

[@Kevtron9000]

My mom is someone that seriously needs this medicine. It really sucks that these Doctors f ed it up for the patients that truly can’t get through the day without treatment.

[@heroiccombatengineer6018]

It's on Amazon​

[@chastitydiez4406]

Yeah man. Plus I can't steal my Mom's pills if she doesn't get them. These doctors are f-ing with my high, and more importantly my habit- BITCH I GOT ANTS ALL OVER ME

[@Kevtron9000]

@@chastitydiez4406 k thanks

[@chastitydiez4406]

@@Kevtron9000 danny get off nyy yt

[@51Humanspirit]

After a complete knee replacement and taking myself completely off the pain meds only 6 days later, my doctor and the surgeon, he refered me too, both proved how insane their addiction to money was by telling me "you should really continue the pain med's to help you get through the physical therapy". Then they offered to. help me get off of the meds. It's been years. Still clean and sober no thanks to them.

[@wille3994]

I grew up during the OxyContin push. Had one 14 y/o friend who was prescribed 40mls for his eczema. All my buddies were hooked. Then the doctors cut them all off and then the heroin flooded in and all their lives were ruined. Only a few of us escaped with our lives.

[@willyrico1146]

I love her work been watching her since her vanguard days

[@shelley7103]

Mariana can Zeller is an amazing journalist, I’ve watched many of the stories she covered!! Thanks for having her❤️

[@Elric54]

That's how my friend died at 47, leaving a wife a 5-year-old son behind Oxycontin -> Heroin -> Fentanyl He was a functional addict, and would have lived another 10-20 years, or maybe even beat the addiction, but Fentanyl is so hard to dose, that a tiny bit too much, and your body stops automatic function. He just fell asleep, and didn't breath as carbon dioxide accumulated in his blood, and killed him.

[@SpaceRanger187]

they leave out the most important part to the story.. That they took everyone off pain meds and told them good luck. so everyone had no choice but to go to herion and fentynal. flood the streets with Fentynal and Covid at the same time.. not trying to be rude or mean. How many years was your friend just fine, taking care of his family.. Millions were on pain meds and doing cocaine non stop and handling their crap.. heck looks at the 80's i wonder why there weren't millions of od's then. because people were getting clean drugs. The whole system is a scam.. People should be able to do drugs and be able to get clean drugs. and if they want off them get the help to get off them along with mental help. Most take drugs because they are sad about something.. Its not like life is fun and amazing.. wow we get to work jobs we hate to pay money to people so they can drop bombs on kids.. Its a scam

[@protestthisyouloser1093]

Lost my best friend at 47. He was on blue Oxys for 15 years. Then some old “friend” brought a bag of fentanyl ….. 1 year after snorting a line of fentanyl, he died of an overdose. He tested positive for fluoro -fentanyl. Heavier than car fentanyl

[@mattsamaco9804]

The absolute biggest mistake I ever made was listening to my family Dr and going to one of the many pill mills in orlando FL. I'm so thankful I was able to escape that mess after quite a few years

[@darrenlee2775]

Caused by a long term lower back injury, I was prescribed various opiate based pain killers by my doctor, along with constant warnings of sliding towards addiction. After a year my doc sat me down and said he was cutting me off all opiate based pain meds and I would have to find another way to deal with my back pain. Maine being a medical cannabis state, he recommended I seek pain relief at a med cannabis dispensary. Long story short, I reject opiates, it's in my medical records and I am most thankful for a doctor that put my health over big pharma payouts.

[@manuelafonso7468]

As a portuguese, very proud of the work doing by a fellow portuguese. Keep going caralho !

[@nunopinto4161]

Portugal caralho!!!!!

[@MasterMalrubius]

Yes but Portugal still incarcerates drug offenders if they do not attend treatment. They provide people an out but if they don't take it the results are the same. Then again, I don't know how many tons of drugs are pushed across the border there.

[@nunopinto4161]

@@MasterMalrubius this is not true, drugs were completely decriminalized. You only get arrested for drugs if you have above a o certain amount, which is then considered enough to be a trafficker

[@milluh]

Doctors and insurance companies need to cover more treatments if there is going to be this war on pain pills. We can't just leave chronic pain patients to live miserably or eventually off themselves.

[@jimbean6500]

That’s what their doing now, you can have a horrific disease and still not be given anything for the pain, people need to wake up to the reality before their affected by “we no longer prescribe medications” crap that’ll leave them in bed screaming themselves to sleep.

[@bootsiemon]

I really enjoyed this guest.

[@michaelkelsey219]

After reading these comments I’m in tears seeing just what happened to the people that survived and the “holes” many are still climbing out of

[@ross7499]

My sister died at the end of 2021 right around Thanksgiving...FENTYNAL 😢 RIP Natalie...only 42...

[@kurtsteven6228]

Mine died feb 2016 at only 26. I feel your pain. 😢

[@Snip42]

@@kurtsteven6228 mine died today

[@dribbles2795]

@@Snip42 sorry to hear that bro, rest in piece.

[@ross7499]

@@kurtsteven6228 her birthday was February 6th. Mines today...not celebrating tho..too many deaths this past few years.

[@ross7499]

@@fnfnfnfjdjdjdjfn my heart is with you buddy...we will get through it. Just have faith that one day soon we will all be together and at peace. ❤️

[@MrMonro27]

The recent show Dope Sick might be one of the realest and best representations of what it was like back when OxyContin was hitting the scene. I was someone who was prescribed them and spent a lot of time in doc’s offices. I lived and watched all this shit blow up while it was also contributing to the horrible decisions that I was making in my life back then. I should not of been prescribed the amount of pain meds I was if any at all honestly. The whole course of events from pharmaceutical companies to people to doctors is something out of a movie but it was real life. Dope Sick shows this in a way that is super relatable, plus Michael Keaton fuckin kills it in his role! The after effects of OxyContin are still taking an epic toll and have turned areas like Kensington in Philly into war zones filled with souls who have yet to overcome what the pharmaceutical companies started over 20 years ago. It’s sad. However, there is some light in these places though, such as myself and others that I work with helping people find the strength to overcome addiction and mental health challenges, and then supplying them with the means to do so.

[@fogums]

Respect to you for overcoming and beating your addiction. And, for helping others who are currently addicted - why aren't the perpetrators, the drug companies doing the same as compensation to the thousands of lives they have ruined. God bless you.

[@MrMonro27]

@@fogums I agree and while it’s still pretty far off from the compensation that they deserve to pay, multiple pharmaceutical companies have been held liable and made to pay cities and townships large settlements. Philadelphia has recently received a pretty substantial Opioid Settlement fund that is being used to strengthen the city and providers with resources that are much needed. I forget the exact amount but it’s in the hundreds of millions. A lot a places throughout the country have received this as well but our amazing media doesn’t seem to want to cover the things that are affecting the country in real life in real time. There is also a lot of class action suits against pharmaceutical companies that are still in the courts both from people and municipalities for the damage that they have wrought. I wholeheartedly agree with you and like I said it’s def not what they deserve yet, but at least some things have already happened and some are still ongoing. If your interested look up the Opioid Settlement funds for where you live to see what they are getting and what they plan on doing with it so places can be held accountable to actually use the money the right way.

[@patrickbrady7359]

Yes it was... im 3 years clean and sober 2-10-20

[@fogums]

@@MrMonro27 Respect and thank you for your efforts in taking the time to help these souls. Society would never let an animal suffer the way these poor people do. I read an article recently about this very subject and the pictures were heartbreaking to see and the people were discribed as 'zombies'. 'There but for the grace of God go I'.

[@klarity1111]

@@MrMonro27 Many good, honest pharmacies have been unjustly shut down. I lost two pharmacies in a row because they were blamed for the opioid crisis. My husband and I, as well as many other in my area, know these people; they were always careful about who they dispensed to and certainly did not hand opioids to addicts. There are many unjust lawsuits and criminalizations.

[@nickb289]

At some point people have to be responsible for themselves. If a doctor prescribed a high quantity it doesn’t mean you have to take it all. I’ve had multiple back surgery and use pain meds daily, in moderation.

[@NotAdamSnider]

This right here. We can blame doctors and drugs and the pharmaceutical industry all day, great. But people must understand that self control exists.

[@1w598]

I've had numerous surgeries in my life, so far, both necessary & elective. I'm very grateful I had opiate pain meds for my recovery. I can't imagine recovering without them. There must be some personal accountability. When a doctor writes you a script, you take it as ordered, period, unless otherwise directed. Once they taper you off and/or discontinues the medicine, then that's it - no more. Why do people blame those who made the medicine. I'm grateful for it.

[@ImTriggered]

I’ve been living with a severe, genetic, degenerative disease for over 30 years. I have a wonderful Pain Management Specialist and a team of Dr.’s who specialize in my rare disease. If it weren’t for pain medication, which is very difficult to obtain and deeply stigmatized, I would not be alive today. If an able-bodied person suddenly woke up in my body I’m 98% sure they would think they were dying. Why aren’t there more/any articles in the #NYT #TIME chronicling the people who benefit from these medications? Whose quality of life would be insufferable without them? There has been a rise is death by suicide from people enduring horrendous amounts of daily pain. Yet, our story never seems to matter. (voice dictated. Pardon any errors.) #Spoonie #NothingAboutUsWithoutUs #SpoonieLife

[@slutmaker88]

Self discipline. Some people didn't aquire it. Sad but true.

[@klarity1111]

@@ImTriggered In my state, only the addicts seem to matter. Severe chronic pain sufferers can commit suicide in droves, and it doesn't matter at all to the politicians. I very much support addiction treatment, but the needs of pain patients are important too.

[@jakeforeman4854]

The crisis lies in the fact that there are people in pain everywhere that just have to be in pain because of everyone's over reaction.

[@coleslawYSJ]

I just finished watching American Pain now and while I did watch this episode of JRE with Mariana, I either wasn't paying attention when she talked about Darren's upcoming doc, or it fell off the wagon. I find it interesting that Mariana shares how the brothers had already gotten into legal troubles before, and honestly had nothing to lose. Having a criminal conviction on one's record, impedes access to so many things: sustainable employment, housing, financial aid to name the most vital supports. People have no other option than to return to a life of crime, as a means of survival, and when there's already a charge on your record, there truly is nothing left to lose, because what's another charge? Rates of recidivism are directly correlated to barriers preventing those leaving the penal system, from accessing vital supports needed.

[@candicemorgan979]

Also for the doc saying the pain could get worse, the doc was referring to when the anesthesia wears off... also with knee surgery I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to stay off of it for a while (like use crutches for a week or more)

[@187btokes]

Destroyed my back in the military. I moved permanently to Japan because my wife is Japanese. I got prescribed fentanyl. Got addicted and realized they sell codeine over the counter. I was so miserable for so many years. Been clean 6 months today

[@firstlast8258]

I’ll drink to that 🍻

[@seand5259]

I was addicted to opiates from age 16 to 40 years old I had spans of sobriety due to the state stopping me or just trying to stay sober....but I wouldn't wish that addiction on anyone it's so hard to break...but once you realize your spirituality bankrupt and do something about that part it makes it easier

[@TheHamm1124]

Sometimes I don’t realize how fortunate I am. I blew out my knee in 2019 and completely tore my acl, mcl, and partially my meniscus. I was prescribed oxy and was on it a month or so and so thankful I never got addicted.

[@chronicallydead]

The sad thing now is people who are suffering, who really need help now can't get help. I have multiple health issues/organ problems/organ failure and thanks to people doing this people like myself, and people with cancer can't get help with our pain.

[@jalexander5133]

I love her work she’s so good at covering the drug world on both sides

[@SpaceRanger187]

yes.. But as a grown adult if i want to do drugs that is my choice. Lets cover the millions of people that do drugs and go to work and do just fine..not everyone od's

[@waleeddandan]

Making it legal could fix things, but can open different wormholes.

[@jay-shredds]

Like what to do with all these empty jails? Put violent offenders in them instead

[@weseethetruth158]

Yeah because making marijuana legal stopped the drug cartels right... right.....🙄🤦‍♂️

[@weseethetruth158]

@@jay-shredds most violent offenders have drug problems. 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

[@Thros1]

@@weseethetruth158 most drug users are not violent offenders. 🙈

[@punknoodles0]

How many illegal things are still very easily gotten a hold of? Guns? Yup. Illegal animals/pets? Yup. Drugs? Yup. Contraband vehicle mods? Yup. Looks like making things illegal doesn't really end them.

[@she_nola1759]

Two of my fav people! Awesome!

[@noahthedestroyer3294]

8 year heroin addict, and I finally got clean a few months ago and an finally living my best life. So happy to be past that.

[@Sameoldage]

Last year was my final year of taking opiates.. I finally had maxed out taking 12 to 15 to 17 pills a day of fentanyl and I don’t wish that or the withdrawals on my worst enemy. Started from a back surgery in 2013 and just got worse and worse. I had to use other shit to get off that but I did it. Slowly but surely. If I could do it then anyone can.

[@TSoulx]

Howd you do it?

[@TheHangarHobbit]

The flip side of this story is now people who are in actual pain can't get any help and are having to turn to dope dealers. I have a family member with 7 fused vertebra and in my state you can go get hardcore drugs off the dope dealer (that is cut with God knows what) quicker and easier thanks to being close to our broken southern border than it is to get so much as a Tylenol 2 from your GP.

[@kevnormansell6005]

Yea same with anti depressants in UK all the people lyin to get out of work n sit in the pub all day... and the real people with real problems get over looked

[@HarshJain-it2bg]

Just buy some Ayurvedic pain relievers or cbd oil.

[@ericmutnan6358]

I had a full thickness skin graft and they told me take ibuprofen lol... I said nope youre not doing the surgery then. They gave me Tylenol 3 and it barely worked. Big pharma ruined it for someone like me who legitimately needs this once in a blue moon.

[@morganmadison366]

Everyone is being punished.

[@HarshJain-it2bg]

@@morganmadison366 not anyone is being punished.

[@itsascaryworld9788]

I like her show, very interesting and I love how she can speak many languages

[@ThaneOfDB]

It’s everywhere. I had dislocated my shoulder skiing and as we were leaving the ER, my father met an older gentleman who also dislocated his shoulder, got it relocated, but they prescribed him fentanyl. Needless to say I was praying that he threw that poison away immediately.

[@sparthacuster]

Fentanyl for shoulder dislocation?? I got mine dislocated “multiple” times over the years n never even went to see the doc let alone pain pills. Maybe I missed out? Hurt like a mofo tho.

[@juanaboynkin1196]

I remember watching The Oxycontin Express many years ago. I was shocked that nobody else ever mentioned it until I heard Joe Rogan talk about it.