Shane Gillis on WWI and the Paintings of Francisco Goya

[@t0p-D]

Shane is such a great comedian. I walked in, I said wow, what a funny guy this guy is

[@PSi-fp8ve]

IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

[@thomasuriarte3182]

Lol I read that in Trump

[@keith3946]

This is a totally pedantic comedy nerd move of me but... that's not how the joke works. You're supposed to repeat the thing you say originally. "Shane is a great comedian, I walked in here and said wow what a great comedian."

[@TheDarkrebel131]

We all did the trump impression in our heads 😭

[@tombosley3048]

God damnit I read that in his voice

[@real716sasquatch6]

Shane is the man. History buff, NFL fan, beer drinker. A mans man.

[@PragmaticPath727]

Top bro

[@samanthab1923]

Ugh a know it all

[@Samboy666]

Korea war str8 after WW2

[@McYeroc]

Knowing a few things about ww1 doesn't make u a history buff. He said it was Austria in ww1? Na bro it was the Austro-Hungarian empire that was involved in ww1. Multiple new countries were born when that empire fell in 1918.

[@samanthab1923]

@@McYeroc That’s what I mean & you have guys in the comments saying “I learn so much about History from Shane”! Ugh

[@gmatic8230]

As a balkan man, listening to Shane kinda be half right about the history of the events in Sarajevo on 1914 is pretty impressive. To think, he holds all this knowledge, despite having down syndrome, is frankly incredibly impressive.

[@GUOMENTAREVIEWS]

I laughed out loud so hard it hurt

[@pamew]

☠️

[@jibrialyusuf3448]

You made my day sir😂😂😂 👍🏾

[@timcarter1164]

He does not actually have down syndrome. He has family members that do, and as he puts it he escaped that one barely. But he does not have Downs. But he certainly looks like he does.

[@johncremeans969]

LOL

[@DuncanClair]

This is why people like Shane: he’s actually his own person with his own interests and passions. He’s not just another mindless drone of Joe’s.

[@wolfcatwithagun]

Shane don't need Joe, Toe needs Shane

[@morrisj68]

Very well said.

[@mr.doctorcaptain1124]

@@wolfcatwithagun Joe absolutely does not need Shane lol. But Shane also does not need Joe.

[@wolfcatwithagun]

@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 heard it bowth ways

[@Triple_J.1]

They're better off with each other.

[@NicLuc]

My great grandfather, William Downes fought in WW1. He was part of the Durham Light Infantry and saw action in The Somme and Ypres. He was mustard gassed but survived and came home. It was horrendous conditions and the war was the bridge to modern warfare, where tanks were created and used for the first time and there was aircraft combat. If anyone is interested in WW1 watch Peter Jacksons, They Shall Not Grow Old. It's a fantastic glimpse into what it was like.

[@peterpan41]

Omg……. Thank you pops for that service🎉 Also check out Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armaggedon. amazing listen

[@brianb152]

They rode in on horses and rode out on tanks. In just 4 years

[@Gotcha6666]

@NicLuc "They shall not grow old" was a great documentary BUT I recently found this one from BBC and it took absolutely new point of view on the WW1. Literaly! It is about the importance of aerial photography which started there and they found some new photos which we didn't knew exists. So they started to analyze them!👍 The documentary is called: "The First World War from Above" LINK: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaXQdX2LfpVprcksi=TBjiTJ5_4sEy6iCF Anyway, best wishes to all decent Americans from Prague, Czech republic! 🇨🇿🗽🇺🇲

[@user-yv4mm6bx3c]

I just recently watched that documentary. Fantastic work. It was directed by thee Peter Jackson of Lord of the Rings.

[@saberwing753]

My 2nd great grandfather, Fought for the Royal army, and when they discharged him ( story is fuzzy on why) he went to Canada and joined up to go back. Man Hated Germans.

[@hunterrileymusic]

The fact that Shane says, “Just some dudes having fun” about people in trench warfare wrecks me 😂 💀

[@nick_c_hudson]

I love the history lessons we get when Shane comes on.

[@mucuk5383]

He made a wrong conclusion tough. The assasination was the trigger but not the reason. The real reason was disagreement over the division of Africa and its spoils between Europeans. So they were already ready for war, so if the assasination did not happen something else would have caused it.

[@paulbrady5259]

Joe is a little light on smarts.@@mucuk5383

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

@@mucuk5383 Africa was not the reason at all lol. The vast majority of African colonies were glorified money sinks. They were extremely unprofitable to maintain and colonial powers only wanted them for the prestige of having more colonies than the next guy.

[@crypto4423]

​@@mucuk5383yep. He also got some facts about the assassination wrong.

[@tombosley3048]

I enjoy it as well. I'm someone who's not incredibly well versed in history but am very interested in it. Seems like a lot of the "history bros" are upset because he doesn't get every little detail right. He's not teaching a damn lesson, he's just talking with a friend. Jeez people

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

I love how Shane is kind of like Norm in the sense that he's actually a smart and knowledgeable guy but likes to play the dumbest guy in the room and just make people laugh

[@allsmightykill]

Way different though, I'm a fan of both these guys. Shane, a fan of history and is quick to correct anybody who brings up a historical fact. Norm in all the clips I've seen never corrected anyone on any of the facts. He always cracked jokes with everybody, even when they talking about stuff more serious. At the end of the day both guys are funny and incomparable.

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

@@allsmightykill Yeah I didn't say they were the same person, just that they are similar in the sense that they are smarter than they let on and like to play the fool for the sake of comedy.

[@dalic24]

For 12 min in this video he showed me he was stupid and talked about stuff he didn't know shit about. So where you get that he is smart baffels me

[@TheDoc1978]

I remember on one of the "parks" episodes someone said Shane actually has a degree in history, I forgot what type of degree, but good enough that he could teach college-level history

[@AJ-das]

Norm had much less ego though. He never felt compelled to defend himself or his points with emotion. He would destroy people with a smile in his face while he, himself never coming off annoyed or feeling disrespected. No shade on Shane. Norm was just God level genius troll comedian.

[@TheMandinotan]

Was in Madrid in May, 2024. And saw Goya’s painting. Seeing paintings online don’t do justice. Paintings are like ceiling high and 3-4m wide.

[@zickster]

I watched All Quiet on the Western Front and have been reading a lot about WW1 recently and it was truly a terrifying war. The idea of going over the top to take a trench in no man's land which looks like hell is quite horrifying I mean it is not a coincidence that Tolkien got a lot of his inspiration for middle earth from fighting in the war. The Battle of Verdun is such a terrifying battle and hearing about people drowning in mud is crazy. The worst thing about the war is the idea that technology can outpace human ability and it is a reminder that in a society that is getting technologically advanced so quick we might not have a way to combat these killing machines we've created.

[@donzaloog324]

Have you listened to the hard-core histories on ww1? Blueprints for Armageddon

[@edoggy327]

The Great War is a good KZbin channel about WW1

[@ChadSolberg]

Comments like this are what makes youtube so epic. thanks dude.

[@PSi-fp8ve]

IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

[@DirtNastyCivilian]

They shall not grow old is another world war 1 thing to check out. And yes blueprint to Armageddon by dan Carlin is amazing

[@NmpK24]

The assassination (in Sarajevo, Bosnia) was more an event which sparked ww1 not the cause of it. The treaties involving the two major factions in Europe to help each other were signed years before 1914. Germany had also been involved in a naval arms race with Britain for decades. And territorial disputes between France and Germany over the Alsace region, Italy with the Trentino etc. So war was inevitable, they just needed an excuse. Every country was making their own preparations for it.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

This. Nobody wanted Germany to advance further because they were a terrifying military power but they had no access to oil which was the one thing that crippled them. Germany was building a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. The first British battalion deployed in WW1 was in Basrah, Iraq and the railway was also bombed.

[@radiotelevision3903]

and Big Brother was watching and waiting for the right time

[@1greenMitsi]

thankyou

[@marcuspapst]

Many modern historians believe that the war was indeed not inevitable as once flaunted. For example the morocco crisis before could have very easily sparked such a world war but was resolved peacefully. As well as the Balkan wars were close to starting war when Russia considered mobilizing to take Constantinople leading up to ww1. I would agree the assassination was not a very important event at the time. No one thought it would lead to the world war but it did, and at several points the war could have been avoided. It was not like the Germans actually wanted a war, the Austrians certainly wanted a war but against Serbia, None of the citizens wanted a war, but once it happened they put full support behind their respective sides. Even the respective "leaders" the kaiser and tsar were very hesitant, Wilhelm was sent to his yacht to avoid his interference and the tsar famously went back and forth until the generals stopped listening and just went with mobilization.

[@hampusheh]

No war is inevitable. One of the big problems is that all major players FELT it was inevitable, and therefor took no serious steps to mitigate the crisis in july 1914. WW1 could have been settled like any other Balkan dispute. But you're right that there were underlying causes, but there always are those. It didn't have to turn into a major war the way it did. France and Germany could have duked it out like they did 1870.

[@apothecurio]

Been a hot second since I’ve tapped into JRE. Shane Gillis is much needed on this corner of the internet.

[@jrelan]

Shane just moved up in my power rankings for being a fellow Goya enjoyer

[@ItsFreeVRealEstate]

Goya Enjoya was right there man

[@briancomforti3890]

“The Dog” is a great painting. Just a little dude chillin

[@josephbrennan9712]

​@@ItsFreeVRealEstate if you have an English accent it still rhymes. So. Ha?

[@americannightmare2109]

I have that Goya print of atlas eating his child in my room. Love it

[@mrdraztik1]

@@americannightmare2109 its not Atlas. It´s Saturn´(in Roman´s mythology) or Cronos (in greek mythology).

[@TheFishRizzler]

Shane being a history buff is one of the coolest things about him! He legit loves to learn about history and shit that happened! 😅

[@frostedsquid]

History, and shit that happened.

[@sthubbins4038]

@@frostedsquid😂 Incredible

[@TheFishRizzler]

@@frostedsquid yes history and shit that happened. Same same but different but still same.

[@MisterShiznilty]

He has a degree in history.

[@gabriel.moreno8173]

People are so dumb now. That you guys are impressed by 8th grade history knowledge😂. You think it’s a history buff 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshuasterling2144]

This is a man who thinks about the Roman Empire.

[@tombosley3048]

I would love to hear Shane talk more history. He's a great comedian but you can tell he is passionate about history. I watched his short series with Louis C.K on the US presidents and it was incredibly interesting and hilarious at times. I could listen to him talk history all day. Maybe thats just me though lol

[@RustinChole]

Me too. That would be sweet.

[@andren8788]

Bring back History Hyenas! 😅😂

[@MrRob49815]

He also does one on the crusades on his pod with Shane which was interesting

[@WHiT3_SHAD0W]

What's the series called? Would like to watch it

[@CantTellYou]

Do you watch MSSP? because they drop into a lot of unexpected conversations about history

[@tombosley3048]

I appreciate how into history Shane is. You can tell he is genuinely interested in historica topics. He's clearly passionate about the subject and Joe honestly seems like a good friend oooohing and ahhhing at something a friend is talking about that you have no interest in lol.

[@carlosvader77]

Talking about Goya (loved it), one of the most important painters. Considered a father of modern art., painting everyday people and royalty in a realistic way (no filters)

[@user-rz4re9tu3r]

Shane gillis hands down the funniest of joes friends. His special is tremendous

[@J3R3MI6]

Definitely. Shane is hilarious.

[@RyanDMoore]

Because he wasn't his friend first.

[@jaredjones2443]

Never met his uncle but yeah he sounds great

[@HassanLoukili-ke1tq]

their is one god only , and Mohamed is his last prophet and jesus is the prophet of god, Islam means to surrender to the one and only god , Do you want to surrender to him or not , i invite you to islam

[@Icecube88]

you know he is friends with dave chappelle and bill burr, right?

[@agm2531]

The museum Shane is talking about is called El Prado. It’s in Madrid. Highly recommended. The most spectacular collection of paintings I’ve seen.

[@sayno2lolzisback]

Las Meninas is without doubt one of the greatest works of art I have ever seen in person

[@MattH-wg7ou]

Same. When I walked into the room where Saturn Devours his Son it was really impactful. GREAT museum!

[@chewie1644]

Might be the best.

[@sakabula2357]

​@@MattH-wg7ouhow big is that painting?Would love to see the original

[@fabianheilbron9988]

@@sakabula2357holy shit my original comment was a response to a misread of yours lol. Sorry I’m hungover.

[@Radxcor83]

The Christmas Truce of 1914 is one of my favorite WWI stories. Highly recommend the read.

[@LilSplashPad]

Shane gotta be the best comic around, historically versed and hilarious the whole time. Main reason I love his history times on MSSP

[@Krashout00]

Strongly disagree.. bet you’re a tHeO vOn fan, too

[@edoggy327]

@@Krashout00no one asked

[@stringbender3]

Your cringe 😉

[@wizkhalifasmoke]

he's just a precursor to being republican bud

[@stephenhurd1489]

Joe still doesn't realize only Meatheads like him give a fuck about Bud lights marketing

[@oscarvalencia6552]

He didn’t lose his mind. He got sick maybe and lost his hearing. The dark painting were, in my opinion sort of experimental work. It had some darkness to it but some playfulness to it. He was one of the last masters and one of the first modern artist. Some of his work looks like impressionist if you see the dabs of paint. If you study deeper you’ll see that the paintings of witches were done for a woman that didn’t believe in superstition. Look at his Caprichos series. “El sueño de la razón produce monstruos” which translates to “ The sleep of reason produces monsters” There’s a lot of satire.

[@Lucas-ig5ke]

Great comment Oscar I fw Goya heavy

[@Garnerian]

Excellent vibes only from the Goya fans, gotta love it 🫶🏻🤙🏻

[@Juliofiasco]

Did you heard that guy saying goya was german😂

[@NokturnalMTG]

My father in law recently passed and we found Old pictures and journals of his grandpa who was in WW1. Amazing to look through it. The mustard gas ruined him to a point he was sent back home to die but his wife, one of the first nurses, healed him up and he survived until his 40s

[@bob321493]

Can’t get enough of Shane talking history😊

[@xboxgamerhr]

these are history buffs to the average american, how sad is this they don't even know basic facts, like the place of assassination ...

[@randb4865]

LOL

[@LilBoiPeep69]

@@puckered603699% of people dont know history at all and dont care to learn it. the amount of people that will learn something from this podcast is a blessing in itself.

[@sergeikhripun]

WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.

[@derekhotzler5897]

These topics are why I love shane. For some reason I remember learning about goya in college and he makes it feel like it was worth it now.

[@johnnyjohnathon7381]

8:50 Shane Gillis was trying to say some stuff about Francisco Goya's paintings, and then Joe Rogan interrupts him to say the same thing he's already said 15 times in the video... "bro can you imagine living through WW1? 😳" whats the point of having someone on the show if you're just gonna interrupt him with the same useless dialog constantly? Watching this stuff makes me feel like I'm gonna have a brain aneurysm. You'll be focused on the guest, trying to understand what he's saying, then all of the sudden everything has to stop because Joe Rogan just has to put his lil input in...

[@charlcoetzee93]

I love Goya, never thought it would be a topic between these dudes. Shane has some depth

[@jaymatthews9324]

Shane would've been one of the best H.S. football coaches/history teachers of all time 😂. Seriously though

[@kingofoblivion1822]

Just clowning on the students

[@stephenmason9527]

The museum with Goya's black paintings is incredible, but you also see his earlier works which were so happy and beautiful. My favorite was Colossus, incredible painting to see in person.

[@masonharkness6437]

Being a history nerd myself I love listening when Shane comes on and speaks about these things. Edit: I’m aware he doesn’t paint the whole picture when it comes to context but it’s funny to listen to him speak about history. If you know history well enough yourself you can plug in the missing pieces or do some of you need to be spoon fed everything?

[@Savage-Henry]

Yeah man. He genuinely seems like a pretty good dude to sit down with and drink beers

[@ws8061]

Yeah he's very relateable, this is exactly how most regular guys speak about history. I still think him and Louise should team up with a based history podcaster like Carlin or Martyr Made and do a once a month podcast or even just a limited series, it would do serious numbers surely. The history guy has to be based though because some ghey liberal history cuck going "akshually" every ten minutes would ruin it.

[@2116sassafrass]

@ws8061 look up 'The Presidents pts. 1-4'. It's Louis and Shane (but, mostly Louis holding court) discussing all the presidents. Pretty cool

[@bigdaddylongschl0ngf882]

@@ws8061start the clock when the homies sit down over some beers, it’s only a matter of time historical discussion/debate fires up.

[@joebaker7788]

He barely knows what he’s talking about. He has a baseline understanding of WW1, maybe by American standards it’s above average

[@Drew_McTygue]

Dan Carlin's podcast on WW1 "Blueprint for Armageddon" is the best on the subject that I've ever experienced. It's immersive, thorough, and explains the political, technological, military, and human experience for a conflict that is difficult to study and understand

[@lukesball1]

Dan Carlin is excellent. The way he talks about how you would see every stage of human decay from allies who had died that day to allies who had died months ago but they couldn't get out to clear the bodies really stuck with me. It also blew my mind that they would go home for a couple of weeks and then have to go back to that!

[@ingehoffman7313]

Agree - masterful his-storytelling!! 👏

[@levilloyd74]

Where can I find it? It’s not coming up in any of my searches…

[@genises200]

Iink?

[@aussiemilitant4486]

@@levilloyd74 its no longer on youtube or spotify im pretty sure its now locked behind a paywall on his website. Though i remember it being a really good story, he embellishes a little and uses some common myths but he is a very very good story teller and researcher for the most part.

[@jakoverslept3096]

"The Great War" youtube series by indie neidel is absolutely fantastic. WW1 was hell on earth and also extremely interesting and complex. As horrific as it was, gas was actually not too effective and artillery was the #1 cause of casualties by far. They were basically raining shells on each other the whole time. I couldn't imagine being in the trenches.

[@lpowers]

Love this series!

[@StevenCarusone]

Lord of the Rings was inspired by Tokien's time in the trenches of WW1. Robert Heinlein was inspired to write Starship Troopers from his time in the American navy in WW2. He served in the Atlantic so a ton of his writing contains descriptions of men coming back to "spaceships" after getting ripped to shreds in whatever war they engaged in.

[@d1boundkj]

It’s finally completed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGPLgJd7Zpl2rrssi=zvKhYkcEbCrZmxPW

[@weeb3277]

Hitler was inspired by his experience with jews

[@deadmeatjb]

​@@dant3175 war is when the most advanced animals on this earth decide to organize and kill eachother. War used to be ceremonial till the industrial revolution, then it kept getting worse.

[@CornyBum]

@@dant3175 I think that's sort of a distorted perspective...on a distorted perspective. I get what you mean, I think, and yes, war is definitely one of the most extreme experiences you can have, but to say that some combat veteran below the age of 20 knows more about life than someone in their 50s just seems wrong. War likely teaches certain things really hard and fast, but its extremeness also means that it's pretty limited when it comes to teaching many other, more commonly shared things in life. Furthermore, I'm sure what a young combat veteran thinks he knows about life after one tour is different from what an older combat veteran with multiple tours, then several years out of war to reflect, knows about life, so age is still a factor. To put it another way, while I'd love to listen to and learn from your example of an 18-year-old Ukrainian kid who's seen combat, I think I'd end up learning a lot more from some average Joe who's had multiple jobs, lived in different places, and had children, then grandchildren.

[@imjdog]

the "lord of the rings" can be the planet saturn too

[@jimmyintheswamp]

The Hardcore History episodes about WWI are equal parts depressing and compelling. Definitely worth tracking down and listening to.

[@frianbantana]

word.

[@CosmosJack]

Yes!! From the very first month of the war you think to yourself "this is the most horrific thing I've heard," and every year gets worse than the year before.

[@jimmyintheswamp]

@@CosmosJack for real. I had bad dreams after I listened to it.

[@RAB6969]

also read The Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. he was an officer in the German Army and later in the special Stormtrooper units. it’s an amazing read.

[@macieljose51]

I’ve heard the whole series a good 5 times

[@jimichanga4760]

I really want a docu-series of shane gillis going through history. That would be amazing.

[@Cynlis]

theres a whole podcast/channel where he does this

[@ryanh1275]

shane is one of the greatest comedians ever, yet these kind of conversations are just as entertaining as his comedy

[@Joe-d3t1t]

He’s really not. He’s the best of a bunch of bad comedians.

[@ryanh1275]

@@Joe-d3t1t no he’s good lol, both his specials were very funny

[@brettpid6416]

@@Joe-d3t1t you're just the best of a bunch of bad sperm

[@Antiluls]

​I really kind of hate the second one. Seems kind of fake and hammered out if you ask me. Also, more importantly, it barely got a chuckle out of me mckuskers was even worse. But i kind of knew it would be. Matts a really funny podcast host/guest not a standup comedian. .​@@ryanh1275

[@JM-ze7jn]

Not funny at all to me personally but objectively speaking I can see how others would think the opposite. Nothing wrong with that & comedians, we all have different sense of humors.

[@Wolfblaz13]

When I see Shane on JRE my day just gets better

[@ron.hertzberg]

Hes better on his own. Especially with Tim dillon. Warmode Especially Dan soder

[@PSi-fp8ve]

IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

[@Mr.EeToMyself]

The should mention that it was countries getting rid of their people for corporate interests. Kinda like we get rid of voters in Ukraine.

[@PayDray]

I’m watching this before Toshes episode so there’s that

[@itzsamic]

@@ron.hertzbergI like how you don’t even mention his actual podcast with Matt lmao gtfoh

[@LeadingPaws]

0:24 guys just gonna skip over the forgotten war? Those poor soldiers still don’t get recognition.

[@anthonybeltran6144]

I remember watching the first episode with Shane and how hard he tried to get Joe to accept him and now, he's like "shut up Joe." "Is what I'm saying for this podcast?" love it. Way to be the man Shane!😂

[@kevinfry1850]

Just following bull burrs lead.

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

Started from the krab swirl now we're here

[@robcostigan8757]

A history prof of mine once said that we can look at the period from the beginning of WWI to the end of WWII as one big war with an economic war in between the two armed conflicts.

[@Hewlett-Packard-Lovecraft]

Goya is one of my favorites painters. Especially his “black period” series.

[@talbotd27]

Yooooo a surprise Gillis episode of JRE on a Tuesday morning, just what I needed to get through this delivery shift

[@alexandervelilla191]

Be safe out there

[@rockerpirate]

Francisco goyas painting are amazing. I saw them at the prado museum in Madrid. Amazing how big and cool looking they are

[@IkarusTheFallen]

Shane is actually such a learned interesting person. Loves the arts and history but yet doesn’t feel the need to die his hair blue lol. Very happy to see him succeeding and wish him all the best

[@BallsOfCheese95]

Is your picture of everyone interested in art and history as people who ‘feel the need to dye their hair blue’ ?

[@IkarusTheFallen]

No cause I’m the same way I just feel it’s become trendy to say you’re an artist when in reality you do nothing truly creative. Just a disproportionate amount of people who have no knowledge or skills just want to look the part when in reality it’s regular guys like Shane who are soo much more interesting without trying just having genuine interest

[@euro51116]

theres a weird, annoying elitism on both sides of that spectrum. The ones that dye their hair blue to flaunt their "love of the arts" to everyone, and the ones who love the arts but instead flaunt that they dont feel the need t dye their hair blue and dont shut the fuck up about it

[@tc7584]

Shane keeps me entertained because he knows a little bit about everything but is able to just bring up entertaining stuff.

[@MatchlessConcepts]

And then Joe connects it to something stupid like bud light

[@onlyrealmusicgonnalast]

Shane hitting Joe with the “pause” when he was describing that kick to the head around 27-28 min mark in this pod is one of the funniest moments in recent JRE

[@redbaron5308]

Bro said Chandler was “a ball of tense muscle just exploding on your face”. You got me to watch the podcast just to see it. Great episode too.

[@ncaponigro1]

5:22 Rogan's wolf 🐺 impression is awesome

[@MetalWolfKaiju]

What I love about Otto Dix’s and the German Expressionist movement is how haunted it all is. Everything is jagged, crooked and contorted. It feels like a genuine nightmare that could have only come from men who had fought in one of the most brutal yet pointless wars in history

[@zinkarius7]

He mentioned Otto dix in this clip

[@1pcfred]

The war wasn't pointless for those that started it. It kept the powers that were in power. It is good to be the king. The peons dying in the trenches weren't going to have meaningful lives anyways.

[@jeremiahvalle9971]

I wrote a paper in Uni comparing the print series both Dix and Goya did seperately in regards to war and their comparisons. Pleasant surprise hearing 2 of my favourite artists being talked about.

[@carlos130895]

goya is such a dude. im from the same city, and we have a big ass cathedral called "El Pilar" full of his paintings, specially the "frescos" in the roofs. i was baptised there. 5 min away theres a palace-museum with his carvings, that are kind of protest-painting. sick dude. spain is suck a place let me tell you that, i miss it so bad :_(

[@inertiaMS]

Shane gilles teaching me about WW1 and getting me interested in napoleonic art wasn’t on my 2023 bingo card, but here we are

[@lynxharpthorn7764]

I love when Shane talks history

[@Retrohunter1994]

He talked to most shit tho. He talked so much shit lol

[@rebelroar78]

0:09 lmao they completely forget the Korean War.

[@slycarlo8747]

That’s the nickname of the Korean War, The Forgotten War. Mostly because we were inches away from using nuclear arms again, with some of our top generals calling for immediate strikes. Truman foresaw the consequences of using nuclear weapons outside of a world war and had to put his foot down which set the precedent that the president has the ultimate decision on hitting the button.

[@jwr2904]

I had to scroll for a while to even see your comment about that

[@kwedd5823]

I love learning my history from Shane. He should make a KZbin channel or podcast where he explains major events in history while getting drunk and making jokes

[@acetate909]

You've probably seen his four part eight hours of podcasting with Lious CK where they cover every president of the United States from 1776 to present. Anyone who hasn't watched it should check it out.

[@mleew77]

Best podcast ever@@acetate909

[@kwedd5823]

@@acetate909 I have not! That’s sounds awesome

[@joshmartinez3311]

@@kwedd5823look up their podcast on Thomas Francis Meagher. Another great history episode

[@henlohenlo689]

just watch the various documentaries on youtube about history. that's probably where he got atleast some of his information, most of the documentaries are pretty well done.

[@pacotaco99]

The Korean War is truly the forgotten war lol

[@tomd7995]

and Vietnam "barely counts"?

[@Philz1925]

I’m sitting here waiting for one of them to mention the Korean War myself.

[@BabaYagaRacing]

​@@Philz1925same

[@doin_fine]

​@tomd7995 500,000 deployed US troops lol

[@tomd7995]

im not sure what your trying to say?@@doin_fine

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

I definitely prefer listening to history than comedy any day.

[@wagstag89]

Rod Serling who was the host of The Twilight Zone was in the 11th Airborne in WWII and walked with a limp from shrapnel in his knee. Many of the episodes were based on things he saw in the war or nightmares he had afterwards

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

'Deathshead Revisited' is one of my favorite episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' and was inspired by Rod Serling, a Jew himself, witnessing the concentration camps himself.

[@AustrianCitizen]

Shane Gillis, Professor of History and Arts

[@PSi-fp8ve]

IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN

[@rdcruick]

Professor of the Dark Arts. Or is that Theo Von 😂😂

[@chadgrov]

More like history and farts! 😂

[@WontSeeReplies]

He’s more versed than the average American, but that’s not saying much. The British empire started WWI to destroy the prosperous and soon to be powerful Germany. If you’re interested in the actual world changing events, Read- Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War Or listen to James Corbett and his guest discuss the book on- The Corbett Report. History is written by the victors- the Roman/British/American empire. That doesn’t make their stories true.

[@sethfrazier828]

Shane really seems like everyone’s favorite history teacher with how much he actually knows it’s dope

[@MorphingMandrel]

he really is built in a lab to be somebody's high school football coach that teaches one school-mandated history class and is weirdly good at it

[@roxicets]

Huge fan of De Goya and his paintings. Crazy to see these two talk abt them!

[@RedRedMCmusic]

What are the black paintings Shane was gonna say

[@Oxxg]

@@RedRedMCmusicthey’re these dark paintings that he did for himself, never sold any and were only found after he died they’re now his most famous works if you search Goya it’s what pops up on images

[@RockBass68]

@@RedRedMCmusicGoya was a famous painter, he actually had colorful pieces that were even owned by the Royal Family of Spain. But then the Napoleonic Wars happened. Napoleon walked into Spain with the excuse of invading Portugal, which of course resulted in the invasion of Spain. While in occupation the civilians in Madrid rebelled against the french troops. Of course this went horribly for the civilians. Goya witnessed the monstrosity of the acts of the french against the Spanish civilians. After this he secluded to his home and slowly went mad while losing his senses (hearing, sight) and while in seclusion he created the Dark Paintings. Depictions of witches, demons and atrocities that reflected the horrors he saw and lived.

[@juliosumarriva3034]

it was Goya's way to show his sorrow for the lost of the American Viceroyalties.

[@Skateandcreate9]

We need another Netflix set Shane I’m already fiending for more

[@Drey_doll]

I love the excuses Rohan’s using to not watch “all quiet on …” lmao “I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night having anxiety over the wars.”

[@placebo5466]

Came here for WWI, stayed for the Goya Black Paintings. Fucking love the story behind them.

[@Drewe223]

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that WW1 wasn’t really about the assassination. Each nation had their own goals and Germany had been looking to make a move anyway, the killing of the archduke was just what set everything off.

[@reyson01]

WW1 started because of an unwillingness of those in power to stop the dominoes from falling. Sure, each country had its share of warhawks and revanchists, but could've been kept in check by stronger leaders.

[@devongarden3485]

Pretty much. Germany was a fairly new country, all the old European dynasties fully expected a war with this 'upstart', it was brewing for a long time and everyone knew it. Serbia and Austria-Hungary were basically irrelevant backwaters at that point but they provided the excuse to settle old scores with 'legal' justification. Hard-core history had a great series on it if you have 20 hours

[@joesizzle10]

yeah man i don't think Joe or Shane have that firm of a grasp on this, I mean Joe literally said "what started WWI", he knows less than your average highschooler.

[@smith9157]

Nationalism, international arms race, secret alliances. Cousin rivalry's. Germany being a newly established nation being envious of rest of europes colonies, Balkan's being a powder keg plenty of factors led to the war

[@BadgerUKvideo]

I don't think anyone even wanted the war. Russia had to protect the Balkans. Germany had to appear to be on side with UK/ France but UK/ France were literally on the side of Russia. So Germany kinda got squeezed. They wanted to attack the Balkans but weren't too bothered but there was too much posturing and eventually the armies that had been amassed just had to get used. UK/ France were trying to ask Russia to chill. Germany was trying to ask UK/ France to chill. UK/ France/ Russia were trying to get Germany to chill. It just didn't need to happen. Basically, if there is ever trouble in the Balkans everyone should just step back and let it happen.

[@beausewell1120]

Francisco Goya was not a WW1 vet despite what many people have mistakenly claimed. He was a Spanish painter that lived from 1746 to 1828 and much of his work was inspired by the horrors he personally witnessed during the Napoleonic Wars.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

Shane looks like a football coach doing an apology tour

[@sthubbins4038]

Fucking incredible 😂

[@sir0nion]

WE GOT GUYS

[@MisterShiznilty]

The comedic instincts the start singing "It aint nuthin, but a good time" when discussing trench war fare and wolves eating soldiers is why Shane Gillis is one of the best doing it right now.

[@neggit2063]

Shane is the first jre guest I ever saw bringing up fine art. Mad respect

[@mick16wtf]

Shane has the craziest most refined taste in history and art. True buff. Goya is the absolute GOAT

[@kirbyd]

calm down . he knows some basic partial history . its cool to know about stuff , but your comment couldn't be more hyperbolic and down right ridiculous .

[@daniellarosa8144]

Shane is one of the best guests, I still remember his 1st appearance and I'm glad he's on more. Rogan and him are great together

[@masondee4302]

The look on Joes face when he starts talking about the damn ceasefire over wolves is top 3

[@MyCatChloe]

That’s like the most basic explanation of ww1. My history teacher put it like this, “the assassination was just the match that lit the fire. The wood was already there.”

[@mr.Swartz]

Best comedian in Texas back on JRE

[@fuckamericanidiot]

Nah that's Hans Kim 😂

[@taylorgeorge2879]

Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina. Bosnia was part of the austro-Hungarian empire at the time and wanted independence. Gavrillo princip was a Bosnian Serb part of a group “fighting” for Bosnian independence. When he shot Ferdinand, Austria said the Serbian government was involved and gave them an ultimatum to agree to 10 terms. Serbia agreed to 9. The Kaiser of Germany was on vacation when declarations of war started flying around and couldn’t stop the war machine in motion. Tensions were already high between Serbia and Austria and war was probably inevitable. The assassination was just the last big event before it kicked off

[@frapelloso]

Shane really surprised me here with his history and art knowledge. Good man

[@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261]

Yea it's like he took history in high school or something, and then read some Wiki pages about an artist, such amazing depth of knowledge....

[@MorphingMandrel]

@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 he has a history degree

[@gabriellynch2764]

I love comedian Shane, but i could listen to historian Shane for hours and hours and enjoy it more.

[@beezyburna]

shane gillis has insanely good memory of history class

[@binodbhujel9610]

I have more understanding of American and Western history than of my own country Nepal. All hail to The Dawg!!

[@mattg2306]

Pretty good conversation to listen too. It’s great that Shane Gillis has an interest in history, makes listening to him on podcasts much more entertaining. Segura, and especially Bert Kreischer, would never be anywhere on this level.

[@popeyedoyle6360]

Yea those guys suck d

[@rollyourownRandF]

Shane’s hilarious, segura and Bert are both not funny. Kinda crazy they even got this level…

[@scootaymildo1070]

​​@@rollyourownRandF Segura is funny tbf, he just puts out way too much content and has disappeared up his own arse a bit as he's become more successful. He also has bizarrely attached himself to one of the most annoying, overconfident, narcissists in the comedy world which really drags down his stock.

[@jennajay7034]

The budlight deflection was Shane keeping his bottom line… so happy for Shane btw. He more than deserves the mainstream appreciation

[@justmelanie152]

Would love for Shane to do a history podcast or series!! 🤞🏻

[@kingofoblivion1822]

U should listen to his Podcast MSSP with Louis CK, they go through every president of the United States in detail

[@justmelanie152]

@@kingofoblivion1822 have definitely seen those!

[@sandman62100]

Hopefully they spend at least an hour talking about the art of comedy so us pedestrians can understand

[@stringbender3]

😂😅

[@joeyhoward-williams8853]

Lol I'm with U on that. My feeble mind can't comprehend the complexity of telling jokes

[@Tarkonomist]

the normie mind couldnt fanthom the complexities that comes with the burden of making people laugh for money.

[@parthgupta8881]

It's Shane not Bert

[@jamesdelcol3701]

Shane knows some history. His historical bits are funny. This will grow over time. He's gonna get better at this as his career unfolds.

[@JamesRockefeller45]

Joe makes Shane look like a genius

[@seshboy612]

Joe literally doesn't know 200 year old history...

[@redeyegooner]

They were basically forced to go to war, and forced to die. A great comedy series set during WW1 is "Blackadder Goes Forth", which outlines the ridiculous futility of the whole thing and how stupid humans are. Well worth a watch 🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@WD-41469]

Well HURRAH with shiny brass knobs on

[@TomaszOdkrywca]

I would also recommend a polish movie: "Jak rozpętałem trzecią wojnę światową"

[@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334]

The greatest end to a television show, ever, bar none. The entirety of that last episode is a masterpiece. Anyone can watch it start to finish now and get emotional having never seen a single episode before.

[@Kento_nanami_the_2nd]

a tale so sad it must only be told in a comedy series lol

[@marccas10]

Do we feel sad because they all died. Or do we feel sad that we will never know if we would have had the courage to have been them?​@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334

[@tylerhrenko6177]

The JRE is such a great podcast. I walked in, I said, wow what a great podcast this is

[@unodos149]

Rogan isn't used to having a comedian guest who knows more than he does - Shane is a rare beast lol

[@bryangreen6231]

Love how educated Shane is on history..

[@pamew]

I appreciate Shane for having a holistic view of history. He doesn't just reel off facts, he goes into the culture of the time. Based.

[@LaMatadora]

I love Shane Gillis for touching up on art history 👍 I respect this guy even more

[@jopo7996]

It's cool that Haley Joel Osment grew up to be a historian.

[@stephenhurd1489]

I like to eat Goya beans 🫛

[@stringbender3]

We meet again

[@shanerob5414]

😂😂😂

[@BillyReplies]

Because he looks like him, but grown up!

[@maddiemonster]

Shane is a treasure. I love this guy.

[@EverybodysDarling]

The Versailles Treaty was the reason for WW2. Not a single country in this planet would have accept this in Germanys position! WW2 was the most predictable of them all!

[@PatDK]

That and the fact that Hitler took advantage of it and used it for his own personal political gain

[@tedbed1389]

Ridiculous statement. Just a couple of months prior Germany enforced the treaty of Brest-Litovsk on Russia. See how lenient that was. Look up plans of the settlement that Germany was going to impose on France. It was just sheer megalomania that pushed Germany to WW2. No problem for them to later annex whole countries. You probably also believe in "clean Wehrmacht". That's what's up.

[@seanmcnally4818]

My great- great uncle was in World War 1, fighting for Canada 🇨🇦, he was from a small village outside Quebec City. They didn't really diagnose PTSD at that time. I believe they call it "shell shock." Long story short, around 1920 or '21, he told his relatives that he was going to the market to get milk, and bread, and that he never came back home. Rumor was that he committed su***de, by jumping off the bridge. I never knew the person's name, but the story has been passed down over the last century. R.I.P.

[@ElephantInTheRoom972]

All quiet on the western front is an absolute masterpiece i encourage anyone who hasnt seen it to give it a watch. 10/10

[@Procedurallydegeneratedjohn]

Shane needs a history podcast

[@lifeistooshort649]

Good on you guys for keeping history front of mind. So many people have no clue and think that we are so much different than our forefathers. One must be humble and elect thoughtful politicians who truly decide the fate of humanity when the💩 hits the fan.

[@ppstorm_]

cringiest comment ive ever read online

[@DracoPadilla]

@@ppstorm_ Why?

[@Ronin.97]

bro look at your pfp@@ppstorm_

[@ppstorm_]

@@Ronin.97 u mad?

[@ppstorm_]

@@DracoPadilla not my job to educate you kid

[@gutrum_vagner]

As an artist I absolutely love Shane's facination with Goya and Dix

[@bompingdatwomper]

some interesting facts about the topics discussed WW1 were about the consequences of allied countries being overly committed to each other. It results in the perfect storm of countries jumping into wars they personally have no interest in. Francisco Goya is the perfect example of why paintings need art history to understand the relevance. Goya's famous black paintings were painted in the walls of his home and were never supposed to be for the public. They reflected Goya's inner struggles with mental illness, his increasing deafness, and most of all his decaying view of humanity in response to the growing corruption of the government in Spain. In comparison to his earlier works which were more upbeat and reflected happier times, it's horrifying and sad to see how his art slowly became more dark and twisted.

[@1pcfred]

Oh the major players were all personally interested with self interests at the fore. They all had their reasons. The people at the top knew exactly what they were fighting for. The poor slobs dying in the trenches, not so much.

[@SmartWentCrazy.]

I agree - that is the core takeaway. Good thing we aren’t pledged to defend 21 other nations if they are attacked… shit, wait we are aren’t we.

[@Torreyhuff]

First on JRE is crazy!!!

[@martin4077]

U not first buddy