COLD STEEL TRAILMASTER - CPM3V STEEL - GSM EDITION - DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS - IT IS OVER

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JOE X

JOE X

Күн бұрын

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@lymedog3176
@lymedog3176 Ай бұрын
Joe, the Crucible company, here in the USA might be closing or at least filling for bankruptcy… so CPM 3v might not be available too long. This totally sucks, because CPM steels are probably the best steels made!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thats a good information! thanks!!!!
@14845445
@14845445 Ай бұрын
the composition of 3v and other cpm steels ist public, companies like erasteel, carpenter technologies, ellwood quality steels, universal stainless and more will provide the same high-quality products and the same exact chemistries. steel dealers already know it, and will buy from other companies, there will be no shortings in supply chain. also it is important to note, that crucible is making efforts to get back into business during their actual process. they still have orders and continue to process everything they can.
@WillEDC
@WillEDC Ай бұрын
The type of bankruptcy to reorganize and survive. Hopefully. But yeah there is a risk
@lymedog3176
@lymedog3176 Ай бұрын
Hopefully it’s a reorganization under our new government administration. Hopefully if these other companies actually make a hard effort too they can force some of the prices to drop too. Knives bought in America that are made in America should be cheaper, unless your that overpriced company “Benchmade “.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
🤣👍
@8626John
@8626John Ай бұрын
Cold Steel executives have nightmares about Joe X. Great video!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i hope thy dream about my glory hole!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@8626John
@8626John Ай бұрын
​@@joexlol
@robthom3837
@robthom3837 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t even consider buying a knife without checking to see if JOE X has tested it first. MARLBORO!!!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thats the spirit!!!
@Hatchet-wy3vn
@Hatchet-wy3vn Ай бұрын
Absolutely 100% agree.....
@lymedog3176
@lymedog3176 23 күн бұрын
@@robthom3837 I saw a YT er that was buying knives and spent 5k on a knife that would last about 2 minutes with Joe … it’s insane ! All his knives were frame lock’s titanium knives..expensive yes, durable, hell no!…. I agree with Joe X if the knife can’t take some abuse it’s definitely not worth an outrageous price tag!
@NosZodd666
@NosZodd666 Ай бұрын
I hate seeing what GSM has done to Cold Steel. Thanks Joe!!!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@gkhanjriii91-04
@gkhanjriii91-04 Ай бұрын
GSM quality is KAPUT 💥
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
big time!
@CrazyPolarBear82
@CrazyPolarBear82 Ай бұрын
Joe, I love your videos. I see the science in what you do, you are genuinely trying to see what all these knives are capable of. Please do not stop making your videos.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks a lot!
@Mike-f2v7f
@Mike-f2v7f 12 күн бұрын
I guess now we know why cold steel cuts the footage during the bend test, right before the blade snaps...doubt factory blades can get too much better heat treats though. Anyway, thanks for another good test Joe.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Ай бұрын
I waited a long time for this! The older ones were great but I always wondered about the 3V, Great job and thank you Joe X! 🤘🏼POMFRITA
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome! Marlboro!!!!
@2214freak
@2214freak Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@2214freak
@2214freak Ай бұрын
I bought mine before the company changed over. Rockwell too high I think. Good edge retention but not super tough. Thanks much! This is one of my survival blades.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
@@2214freak 👍👍👍
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
@@2214freak thanks a lot!!!🤟
@jonathandiamond6801
@jonathandiamond6801 Ай бұрын
JOE'S HOOKER MONEY!
@holdernewtshesrearin5471
@holdernewtshesrearin5471 Ай бұрын
Youre a maniac and i love it! Thanks for all the hard work!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@Hatchet-wy3vn
@Hatchet-wy3vn Ай бұрын
Joe X!! OUTSTANDING review. Thank you.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
cool!
@petedavidson712
@petedavidson712 Ай бұрын
"It gets hot and smells funny." A perfect description for joe x's "Austrian nail"
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
hell yeah!!!
@foundersrule3496
@foundersrule3496 Ай бұрын
JOE X makes GSM ring the bell... game over
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
big time Marlboro!!!!
@panganaranga
@panganaranga Ай бұрын
This car is a piece of art.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i can sell it to you!
@panganaranga
@panganaranga Ай бұрын
@ Did I say I want to have it? But thatnks, cool offer. Maybe for someone else.
@8626John
@8626John Ай бұрын
Someday they will be in the Joe X museum.
@ants4100
@ants4100 Ай бұрын
I knew I should not have parked my car there.
@techmarc6996
@techmarc6996 Ай бұрын
I ordered a Cold Steel Gladius Machete. And was lucky enough to get one from South Africa. Only one issue, the Gladius came unfinished. The edges were beveled, but left completely dull, not sharpened at all. After some tedious work with a fresh Bastard File, it's now sharp like a razor. Very nice New Old Stock weapon now!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thats good!
@heyarno
@heyarno Ай бұрын
Man, I love that impossible to baton piece of wood.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
crazy tough!
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Ай бұрын
​@@joex really doesn't appear 3v is as tough as they claim. I believe blade steel is all marketing bullshit. Why do it seem budget cheap steel is much tougher. Seems basic carbon steel is still the best
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Yeah maybe
@heyarno
@heyarno Ай бұрын
@@richardhenry1969 In regards of toughness, carbon steel is way up there. I think that 3V was ruined by bad heat treat though.
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Ай бұрын
@@heyarno maybe I'm just saying I don't believe it's as big big a difference as they claim. Yes it's tough is it worth the up charge? A8 is tougher and cheaper. 5160 is extremely tough and cheaper. The thing is production heat treatment is questionable at best. That's why no company actually test Rockwell. They say it might be 58-60 that is a huge difference. How would they know it's not 57? I don't believe these knives are worth the price. Especially when eafengrow has great designs in different steels all under $100. I used to love coldsteel because of price. Now they are just another big corporation playing pump and dump off the name.
@A-Bat
@A-Bat Ай бұрын
Always nice to see you brother ! I'm glad you're still doing your lovely knives destruction's !
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!!!
@paulparkinson1379
@paulparkinson1379 Ай бұрын
What I like about Joe x work is that the constant is total destruction and the variable is how much will it take before it is totally destroyed
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
@@paulparkinson1379 👍👍👍👍👍
@PerIncommodusVeritas
@PerIncommodusVeritas Ай бұрын
Thanks for perfect test Joex! ❤
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@mathewrculbertson
@mathewrculbertson Ай бұрын
Thanks for the test JoeX. That spine wack was a disappointment, but the edge seemed pretty tough. It look like South African 1055 is one of the best choices for extreme impact, to bad GSM screwed that up.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome! the Fanboys on your FB Forum are nice!
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace Ай бұрын
80crV2 also showed lmost the same results as 055
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace Ай бұрын
@@joex Joe in one of the latest videos you said that N690 is your favorite steel. Is it because its oughest steel you tested ? What knife id you test ith that steel ? I cant seem to find the video .
@AshrafulIslam-oe5ct
@AshrafulIslam-oe5ct Ай бұрын
6:18 Joe X is the first man in the world who turned the Trailmaster into a baseball. ⚾
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yeah looked like it!
@johnmutton799
@johnmutton799 10 күн бұрын
In days gone by, someone who was caught in the wilds and needed dry tinder, would baton, in a emergency to get at dry wood, from a stick. Not a log. But with KZbin, things just went way to far. This guy is showing ghe strength of the knives and materials. But no one in their right minds would put their knife through this. Especially with the price of some of these knives. But some of the knives he tests are absolutely awesome. The trail master was not designed to spit logs. Even cavemen knew thus, its why they invented axes! But this guy shows what knives don't break. But not all knives, exactly the ssme are exactly heat treated the same. Keep up the good work!
@melvinleffingwell4114
@melvinleffingwell4114 Ай бұрын
Nice to see you're still at it. Keep up the great work. 😎
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@robertmakowski7808
@robertmakowski7808 Ай бұрын
Love your videos as it's nice to see how much abuse a knife can take before it fails....
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
cool!
@StarkartOrg-urban-art-gallery
@StarkartOrg-urban-art-gallery Ай бұрын
after a really loooong fucked up day, a nice and neat knife destruction video from Joe X. So nice and very satisfying. Keep it up man. Ehrlichkeit ist ein rares Gut heutzutage. Grüsse nach Österreich.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
danke! i try to get to Hollywood!!!
@MaliMeho-v5m
@MaliMeho-v5m Ай бұрын
The knife did great given the full flat grind with a thin behind the edge geometry. The grain structure looks perfect. A lot of other makers will make the blade much thicker behind the edge to avoid warranty issues in case of abuse but they do not slice nearly as well as trail master. If you look at 1800s Sheffield bowies you will see similar geometry with thick spines and very thin behind the edge profile because the customers wanted a knife that can cut and slice well.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
ok
@yogibro6442
@yogibro6442 Ай бұрын
Thicker behind the edge makes more sense for splitting wood than cutting meat.
@theanonymousprepperchannel
@theanonymousprepperchannel Ай бұрын
Seeing the tip get bent that quick sucks! Man gsm really doesn't care about knife quality anymore. Rip cold steel
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yes, adios ! tip break was too easy!
@yogibro6442
@yogibro6442 Ай бұрын
Tip is too skinny, they shouldn't have the false edge on the spine, and the tip is too pointy. It might help to drop the point a little
@brianvannorman1465
@brianvannorman1465 12 күн бұрын
Okay. Now do the Recon M1.
@joex
@joex 12 күн бұрын
ok send it to me asap then!
@aab-el9bd
@aab-el9bd Ай бұрын
thanks
@jadon1400
@jadon1400 Ай бұрын
Kind of ashame because this was one of the better cold steel knives ever made but now it just seems like ever other knife
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yeah true!
@GP-d3n
@GP-d3n Ай бұрын
Wieder einmal sehr gut dargestellt ❤
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Danke 🥺
@zapcos80
@zapcos80 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. More Joe X.
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 20 күн бұрын
Brother JoeX what is that sweet old farm truck there behind you? Should do a "will-it-run" video and get it going be pretty sweet
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors Ай бұрын
Joe is back!!!!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yes!
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 Ай бұрын
I've been disappointed too many times by the heat treatment of expensive metals by the big manufacturers. They have to start doing a better job. I thank YOU for being there to show us their weaknesses.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome! i will stay on it for a bit!
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Ай бұрын
Nice knife, buuutt... On sale (!) here in the Netherlands🇳🇱 from €.535,-- now for €.428,-- and that is still waaay too much for what I am willing to pay for it. Excellent test again, my friend👍 At CS GSM all alarm bells must be ringing by now.. Greets, TW.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thats a sheat price my friend!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i hope so, Gsm Fkas!
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Ай бұрын
@@joex : Yes, absolutely sheisse
@singingtoad
@singingtoad Ай бұрын
I always get a blast out of watching your videos, very entertaining. 👍Take care and Cheers!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks a lot!
@anivallopez2409
@anivallopez2409 Ай бұрын
Buen video. A mi el cuchillo me dura toda la vida yo les doy uso normal. Todavía no tengo cuchillos de cold steel pero tengo los viejos ontario, bk2, schrade schf9, schf45 y buck. Gracias Joe X por tus videos siempre es bueno ver lo que haces.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@ogorublackmaster2673
@ogorublackmaster2673 Ай бұрын
Pomfritta, Chek, Cold steel fanbois, Chek, Joe X, Chek… Thanks for review Joe…
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@arcangelsecurity
@arcangelsecurity Ай бұрын
Nice Joe 👍. No GSM cold steel in my collection. Only US and Japan made.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
nice!
@4673962
@4673962 Ай бұрын
The Work Tuff Gear Bear claw did waaaay better than this. He did alot more wacks on the brick with the edge and it barely made it dull. No chips like the trailmaster. He also whacked the spine for minutes before it broke. The tip only broke once when he tried for a long time to break it. Another thing that shows me how much stronger the bear claw is than the TM is the blade thickness. Bear claw is just under a 1/4" and the TM is 5/16". Joe was so impressed with it he was going to buy another one. This is all sad to me because i have always wanted a TM since the mid 90's. Never bought one😢. Thanks alot GSM!!!!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i think so too!
@4673962
@4673962 Ай бұрын
​@@joexKeep it up Joe, you're doing awesome!
@deadwolfresistance13
@deadwolfresistance13 Ай бұрын
One of my Favorite Bowie models. I goe one SK-5 and one in 01 steel Keep up the great work Joe-X Marlboro 💯🗡🗡🤠👍👍
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
cool!
@bigdawghb
@bigdawghb Ай бұрын
Joex breaking more Cold Sheel $hit !
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@StrategicCIS
@StrategicCIS 20 күн бұрын
I had two Carbon V Trailmasters back in 2001. Couldn't destroy them if I tried.
@joex
@joex 20 күн бұрын
i can, send me one!
@lordich2468
@lordich2468 Ай бұрын
Sucks that it shattered so fast but i have one, and when cutting through the woods its great goes through brush fast has a finely ground edge so it can roll easily if you hit metal; hit a piece of rusty barb wire got a little roll....
@mrblaque215
@mrblaque215 Ай бұрын
I love how he called it the “GSM” Trailmaster. Cold Steel’s legacy is as tarnished as their new trash instruments these days.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@Man_Cave
@Man_Cave Ай бұрын
I wonder how my first generation Carbon V Trailmaster would do in this test with the thicker clip point, but I know I could never replace it as it is in mint condition.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
would be a cool test!
@marciothayland9799
@marciothayland9799 Ай бұрын
Oh my goodnees ! Magnific ! 👍
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@LonestarTaoboy
@LonestarTaoboy Ай бұрын
I wonder if there is a comparison between the pre GSM Cold Steel models and the ones being made today? Meaning both versions going through the same destruction testing.
@squick1842
@squick1842 Ай бұрын
I wonder about the heat treatment
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
100 %, check my vids!
@pavlepetrovic6846
@pavlepetrovic6846 Ай бұрын
Cold Steel became not so good bro!!! We can see that kapitalizm is destroying many legends, just look at Mike Tayson, he choose money instead of his legacy! The same did mr. Thompson!!! Only Joe X is becaming better, like good wine!!! Big love to you, and great respect!!! 👍👍👍🙏
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yeah, that Tyson match was so wrong!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks bro!
@kelloggcd
@kelloggcd Ай бұрын
Great video Joe⚔️ Thank you Sir!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@Handrolled_83
@Handrolled_83 Ай бұрын
I had an idea about a till it breaks. Could you do a balisong video?
@ross.58008
@ross.58008 Ай бұрын
Cant be joe. Hes got clothes on😂😂❤
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yeah!
@Gedankengeist
@Gedankengeist Ай бұрын
Wie immer klasse Video! Daher: allways 👍 Greetings from 👻
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
danke!
@Ky2-420
@Ky2-420 Ай бұрын
BEEN waiting fo Da goat to test diss😂
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors Ай бұрын
I have a Trail Master Bowie in Carbon V that I purchased from Western Auto in the mid 90’s. Been an awesome knife! I have a review of that knife on my channel!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i think this blade of yours is much tougher!
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors
@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors Ай бұрын
@ I was fortunate to be able to purchase the knife at “store cost” but even back then it was around $130! We started selling Cold Steel back then after my dad received a demo DVD from the company - very impressed. Dad has a SRK in Carbon V still in the box - never used!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thats cool!
@robbysullivan1154
@robbysullivan1154 Ай бұрын
Not sure what's in the vest that compromised the tip in the beginning, but some have ceramic in them. Which takes diamond or carbide tools to cut or drill. Due to the high hardness of the ceramic. Which would make sense on the tip being compromised. Have you tried to penetrate that type of vest with other blades yet? Thanks for sharing. Stay safe, my friend.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
no cerarmic, check my video there u will see!
@Jesus-Christ-Is-Our-King
@Jesus-Christ-Is-Our-King Ай бұрын
Bro, if you would choose 1 fix blade and 1 folder blade to call them perfect, what would that be? I know you were impressed by Ares but that is a monster of a tool, I mean just regular knives.
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 Ай бұрын
I would also love to see a recommendation from JoeXs arsenal of experience !
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i made a lof of vids!
@Jesus-Christ-Is-Our-King
@Jesus-Christ-Is-Our-King Ай бұрын
@ I know, and I watched so many videos. You have top 3, top 5, top 15, top 20, top 40 of budget knives, fancy knives, survival knives, folder knives. I just thought you maybe had in your mind 1 fixed and 1 folder that you think are perfect knives. But, ok, carry on.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Wtg Ares, Cold Steel Espada Xl
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 Ай бұрын
@@joex Thanks JoeX! I guessed a Cold Steel folder might be one of your favorite! 🙂 But not only the VOYAGER line is interesting, but also the RECON line (for folders) And about Work Tuff Gear I dont no anything, no experience myself. But I´ll go and check that WTG model "Ares" out! Greetings to my neighbor!
@nathanwhite5602
@nathanwhite5602 Ай бұрын
Great job on the video
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@aliveandkicking1977
@aliveandkicking1977 Ай бұрын
Thank you Joe x for this test.🤟 🖖
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@johnq.citizen8076
@johnq.citizen8076 Ай бұрын
The king of ping strikes again
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
indeed! Marlboro!!!!
@WillEDC
@WillEDC Ай бұрын
You need to review a Silky saw Katanaboy1000
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
send it bro!
@zensempai7371
@zensempai7371 Ай бұрын
I use one of these as my large pack knife out in the back country - but it's in 01 steel
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
cool!
@brentmellinger1798
@brentmellinger1798 Ай бұрын
I haven’t watched the video all the way yet, just by the fact you call it the GSM trail master imma guess it doesn’t live up to its name or the 3V it’s made with. 🤷🏻‍♂️oh well MARLBORO!!!! 😎 JoeX ist wunderbar!!!!! 👍 this is the ultimate knife toughness testing channel!!!
@babarama283
@babarama283 Ай бұрын
I have a Trail Master in San Mai, and remember it was pricey at the time.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
nice!
@castronnics9020
@castronnics9020 Ай бұрын
Excelente prueba!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
gracias!
@kevinAuman1
@kevinAuman1 Ай бұрын
JoeX my friend, ask yourself what materials they had to use inside of that vest in order to make it stab proof, it was literally designed not to allow a blade tip to penetrate it ofcourse it will cause damage to the tip what else did you expect? Lol-ol-ol
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i know, i made a video about that vest!!!! i expect from 3v not get dulled like this!
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@fjvnghb
@fjvnghb Ай бұрын
Cold steel 3V heat treatment is done by bos? I don't think it's as strong as 3v should be.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i am the only bos here!
@Mike-id8gu
@Mike-id8gu Ай бұрын
3:30 to chop through that tree at the beginning...wow!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yeah"!
@thechugdude
@thechugdude Ай бұрын
Looks like it performed really well! Thanks for the video!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
u are welcome!
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Ай бұрын
I also see that this test rather shows quality.
@GhostRider-p4d
@GhostRider-p4d Ай бұрын
You have to test the Trailmaster Carbon V.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
sure
@marclucier2533
@marclucier2533 Ай бұрын
When joe X was in school He went to recess.. it’s now called survival training… Marlboro
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Marlboro!!!!
@dead6last
@dead6last Ай бұрын
great knife durability test!
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks!
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Ай бұрын
I am no expert but if you harden the steel more you get a better edge retention. But the steel also get s more brittle. Maybe CS decided to give their knives more edge retention. Most people would normally cut and chop with knifes. Here they will see it as benefit. Already the abuse on the car was insane and very unrealistic but it did well there. So what is your complain here? That you cant hit rocks with the spine of the blade? Who will ever want to do that?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
check my WTG ARES videos my friend! it is possible!
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
Exactly right. But no one on here seems to understand that.
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
@@joex 2 totally different knife styles. Built for different purposes.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Ай бұрын
@@HoraceVinderman Yes the Trailmaster has a flat grind while the WTG Ares has saber grind is thicker no pointy typ its almost a cleaver.
@Frankbox70
@Frankbox70 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised... actually 3V can withstand more... was the heat treatment carried out correctly? 🤔
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i think it is a sheat knife!
@TheUnseenPath-X
@TheUnseenPath-X Ай бұрын
​@@joex Did you want to say "shit"?
@TheRumpleminze
@TheRumpleminze Ай бұрын
I almost bought one of these a few days ago. Definitely dodged a bullet
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
a tiny bit maybe!
@kotnhewhohim2092
@kotnhewhohim2092 Ай бұрын
What do you think, Mr. X? I think spear point is probably the strongest tip.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
tanto!
@dongkhamet1351
@dongkhamet1351 Ай бұрын
Hi Joe X, please check whether the Carrothers you tested was 3V or CPM 3V - I believe Mr Carrothers has made knives out of both steels. Anyway if this Trailmaster is plain 3V that should not perform as well as CPM 3V which is powder metallurgy. Any CPM variant should perform better across the board.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
ok i am not sure! but same steel and delta heat treat like on the normal BKF, i think!"
@dongkhamet1351
@dongkhamet1351 Ай бұрын
@joex anyway I am sure you are pointing to real issues with the GSM product. There's no doubt about that left. Now my problem is I got into a dispute with a knifetuber who says he has a fake Espada XL to destroy. My issue being, how does he know it's fake? His knife has some QC issues that could be down to the overall downgrade on "genuine" CS products. So at some point some of the clones will be better quality than the genuine GSM product?! Marlboro!
@jimmycricket7946
@jimmycricket7946 Ай бұрын
Dude there's no difference between 3V and cpm3v it's the same thing. It's not like 154cm and cpm-154. 3V without cpm can only refer to voltage, it's one and the same.
@dongkhamet1351
@dongkhamet1351 Ай бұрын
@jimmycricket7946 thank you, I absolutely stand corrected. As you can imagine I figured seeing 3V In certain descriptions and CPM 3V in others that there were conventional and powdered variants. My mistake. Can you tell me, are Crucible the only US or global manufacturers of powdered metallurgy steel? I got interested :D
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
You have no clue what you are talking about.
@merrickx
@merrickx Ай бұрын
After the nail, I could reprofile that edge in like 3 minutes. I might need to find some good 3V.
@stefthorman8548
@stefthorman8548 Ай бұрын
i already expected that the spine wack would break it, since the edge was already compromised, and it's an flat grind, the spine is the weaker then the edge.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
ok cool!
@Homelander-ftw
@Homelander-ftw Ай бұрын
I have no idea why Cold Steel is insisting on these rigid steels instead of something softer that would bend a bit, maybe, but wouldn't break.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
sure!
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Ай бұрын
Because of edge retention. Who will ever hit with this knife against rocks or iron?
@mikeboyce21
@mikeboyce21 Ай бұрын
You do realize that they could adjust the heat treat and make them not so hard. I have a fehrman extreme judgment in 3v and its 57-59 hrc. The trailmaster is 61 hrc. My fehrman can flex and also the bte and overall thickness and fine point has a lot to do with it breaking. Geometry and heat treat play a way bigger part in toughness than the steel itself if the worktuff ares were made out of well heat treated 3v it would be basically indestructible.
@silverfingerthesilverstack5062
@silverfingerthesilverstack5062 Ай бұрын
Batoning the log 'I can hear it cracking' , what the knife lol ?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
possible!
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223 Ай бұрын
That blade had to have a stress fracture. To split and fuck off the way it did from one spine whack is insane
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i must be one!
@mountaingoattaichi
@mountaingoattaichi Ай бұрын
Anyone know of the O1 version lasted longer than the 3V?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
maybe!
@andymorales6907
@andymorales6907 Ай бұрын
Maybe the handle material should be used for the blade. That way it's gonna be stronger knife overall.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
i dont get it!
@andymorales6907
@andymorales6907 Ай бұрын
@joex I was just saying that the blade should have been made from the same material the handle is since it is stronger and took more abuse than the blade itself🙂
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
@@andymorales6907 Its a full tang knife, meaning blade and handle are the same.
@andymorales6907
@andymorales6907 Ай бұрын
@HoraceVinderman Noone seems to get my attempted joke🙂 Since the blade broke way before the handle I was implying that the blade should have been made out the same polymer the handle is. That way it would have been stronger😉
@davel1716
@davel1716 Ай бұрын
Wow! First hit on the spine! That's problematic for how pricey it is. There are *lot* of options at this pricepoint, getting close to CPK price territory, and over what one might be able to get an Ares for. I expected more from Cold Steel's treatment of 3V, and it could also be a geometry problem. Great performance...from JOE X!
@mikeboyce21
@mikeboyce21 Ай бұрын
Comparing the ares is not apples to apples, the bte on the ares is insane. It's over 50 thousandths. Not to mention it's overall thickness throughout the blade it doesn't taper like the trailmaster and lastly the very fine tip compared to the basically non existent tip on the ares. The geometry couldn't be any more different.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
for the $$$ unacceptable!
@torsten4757
@torsten4757 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this review/testing. I also like how you fall out of the tree into the water. Looks a bit like a chipmunk 🐿️ on Red Bull 😉
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
nice!
@squick1842
@squick1842 Ай бұрын
Did you test the trail master pre GSM?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
what does the video title say?????
@squick1842
@squick1842 Ай бұрын
It says that you test a GSM version. Nothing more.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Ай бұрын
There exist a search function on youtube! It looks like he never tested the pre GSM trailmaster.
@squick1842
@squick1842 Ай бұрын
@@Gieszkanne I did search. I have seen him use it in other videos so i thought since he proclaimed "It is over" then that would mean the new GSM made in Taiwan are of worse quality.
@WillEDC
@WillEDC Ай бұрын
You also should review destroy DBK new made in china folder 😂❤❤
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
send it bro!!!!
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 Ай бұрын
WTG in K329 seems to be doing better.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
@@wellregulated8725 a lot!!!
@WyattWillis88
@WyattWillis88 Ай бұрын
Your the fucking man Mr X 💪thanks for so much entertainment good sir. I've always been curious if you have a favorite angle you prefer knives to be sharpened to? Keep kicking ass my friend 🫡🫵
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
thanks! i dont have a favorite!
@XiangnuKhaan
@XiangnuKhaan Ай бұрын
In your experience, which blade steels have been the most durable?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
1055
@davidstecher1171
@davidstecher1171 Ай бұрын
Looks clearly to me a problem of proper heat treating the steel... 🤔
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
maybe!
@Bigdaddyslasher
@Bigdaddyslasher Ай бұрын
Tough handle material
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
yes!
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace Ай бұрын
Joe in one of the latest videos you said that N690 is your favorite steel. Is it because its oughest steel you tested ? What knife id you test ith that steel ? I cant seem to find the video .
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
not any more
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
MESSERFIEBER blades
@Temporalplace
@Temporalplace Ай бұрын
@@joex Would be nice to see some of FOX knives test
@TheVikingraider
@TheVikingraider Ай бұрын
Cold steel war hammer next?
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
do you have one?
@TheVikingraider
@TheVikingraider Ай бұрын
@joex no, I want to buy one but i want u to test it first.
@HoraceVinderman
@HoraceVinderman Ай бұрын
This knife performed well at what it was designed to do well at. I'm sure even GSM could have redesigned the blade to keep the thickness all the way to the blade with a small grind and bevel. Instead of the flat grind. And the tip could have been a modified for strength. It could have possibly held up to more of the abusive tests. But when all of you keyboard "knife experts" ran out and bought it because it held up to the tests. You would soon find out that what you had was a sharpened pry bar that had no real knife qualities. Sure, you could go out and find some stones or steel pipes that you could beat on until your hearts content. But when you needed to process wood for a fire, or field dress an animal for food. Or many of the other things you need an actual knife for. you would be very disappointed. The Trailmaster has been around since the late eighties for a reason. And CPM 3V steel has been great for what it's designed for. I would take this exact knife in the woods or on the trail anytime. Without any worries what soever. Because I understand the assets and limitations of this knife and steel. Sure, GSM has been a letdown recently. But I believe this is a very good knife that is being misunderstood by most of the viewers in the comments.
@sergeantdef.3572
@sergeantdef.3572 Ай бұрын
True.
@2214freak
@2214freak Ай бұрын
One of the most logical comments on here. The blade geometry has to be considered with these tests. I knew the narrow tip was going to break on the Trailmaster when lateral pressure was applied at its weakest point. As youve stated, that tip was also designed to field dress and do intricate tasks as well as stabbing and combat. You always have to give up something, If the blade is robust with a wide thick tip, and it was the only blade on you , you would hate the thing by the end of the day when you had to struggle to use it for routine camp, utility and bushcraft chores. Trailmaster has been tried and true and can do just about anything in a pinch. This 3V has incredible edge retention as we see minimal damage from the car and the nail. El Bricko eats high rockwell treatments for lunch and under no circumstances would there ever be a need to apply that kind of abuse. The man ACTUALLY stabbed through the windshield and started cutting the glass like it was cardboard or something LOL😅 .
@michaelschweimler7292
@michaelschweimler7292 Ай бұрын
The tip break was to be expected. Its a nice usable tip that is relativly fine . Also one should not forget that the amount of leverage put to it due to the overall length is huge... That back spine hit that broke the blade was maybe not expected, but after what he put that knife in before - and that the amount of force created by the high mass and weight oft that blade is pretty high I would not rule out that knife. For a big knives that most will use for chopping CS might consider stepping the rockwell hardness one step back. But actually I think it did pretty well. I am over 60 and used knives my whole live for hunting, work and outdoors. People do not get it - Joe is entertaining, but what he does has nothing to do with real life knife use , not even with very hard real life knife use. Any blade with a nice cutting geometrie and hardened to the point that we say it has good edge retention will break with this kind of abuse. And to consider a knife to be good or not has many, many aspects .. To judge if a knife is good or not and to buy it or not upon Joe's destruction tests shows that some people probably do not know sh.t about knives and all they do is fart in their chairs while sitting at their computers.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
Well? Not really!!!
@thecrazyfilipino
@thecrazyfilipino Ай бұрын
With 3v being rated 9/12 in toughness (KSN) I am surprised the steel wasn’t more forgiving. I was expecting more bending/warping over the fractures, but this is considered extreme abuse of a knife. The Gerber Strongarm’s steel (420HC) is rated just as high in toughness as 3v and it survived everything; it’s much cheaper too. Thank you Joe, for doing all the things I’d never do to my knives. You’re the reason why I bought a Strongarm.
@vladimirrogozhkin
@vladimirrogozhkin Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@vadimgoldin1491
@vadimgoldin1491 Ай бұрын
Powder steel That was expected.
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
sure, u have no idea!
@stefan-D
@stefan-D Ай бұрын
Hm, hat es leider nicht ausgehalten. In der Länge scheint es schwierig zu sein, ein gutes Stabiles Teil zu finden, was dir nicht gleich die Hose runterzieht am Gürtel. 😀
@joex
@joex Ай бұрын
grundsätzlich falsch!
@stefan-D
@stefan-D Ай бұрын
@@joex wie meinst du das Joe?
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