Hey all! Quick comment. Because of how bright the Mini's screen is, a lot of parts might look blown out especially when another device is right next to it. It was super difficult to capture two devices with way different brightnesses, but I can tell you that in person, it's not blown out at all, merely a camera and ISO issue.
@agamaz56503 ай бұрын
my bro it is really that worse than an oled?
@dokferr3 ай бұрын
How is it compared to Odin 2 screen, better or worse? Because looking from your video, it's looked wash out.
@geggyboy12693 ай бұрын
@@dokferr His answer is literally in the comment you replied on.
@dokferr3 ай бұрын
@@geggyboy1269 I want to know his conclusion, which one he prefer. I only have Odin 2. If I also have Odin 2 Mini in front of me, I'll make my own conclusion, not gonna ask other people.
@geggyboy12693 ай бұрын
@@dokferr Ah, I see.
@netnomad473 ай бұрын
Spongebobs voice: "I don't need it.. I don't need it.. I don't need it.."
@metalliholic3 ай бұрын
"I NEEEEDDD ITT!!!!!"
@veloxsterinkognito75123 ай бұрын
Be careful, Spongebob!
@deflash3 ай бұрын
If you have odin 2, yep
@eyeofterra3 ай бұрын
Wait for new Switch. Obviously better value.
@xxneroxxx49963 ай бұрын
@@eyeofterra Nobody cares someone looking at this is looking for an android console obviously
@josh64993 ай бұрын
S23 Ultra performance for $340 is pretty amazing!
@QuantumChrist3 ай бұрын
Yup, cause most of s23 price goes to High end camera and best Screen display ever created.
@franciscobutte3 ай бұрын
10:32 The regular Odin 2 screen really shines on that section of the video.
@mauriciomorales24083 ай бұрын
Thought the EXACT same thing and made me feel better about just receiving my Odin 2 pro and not getting the Mini
@08esco3 ай бұрын
Yes but the screens look worse on Video than they do in reality. I bought a lot of handhelds and almost everytime the screens looks very bad on Videos but in reality they look great
@mauriciomorales24083 ай бұрын
@@08esco haha true I have many handhelds and always am pleasantly surprised when I have them in front of me. Just trying to tell myself that the Odin 2 pro I just got is better so I don’t buy the Mini lol
@Arxgxmi2 ай бұрын
the video is literally focused on it, when shooting you have to choose between the quality of one over another, the odin 2 mini looks worse here due to a lack of very good HDR on this particular camera, it looks overexposed because it has more contrast than the screen it is focused on, which has less. the mini looks way better.
@solidust5733 ай бұрын
Joey left everyone at the starting gate with this one. Everything else seems to be sleeping at the wheel today 🤣 good stuff! 👍
@HalAnime23 ай бұрын
Buying it for the Vita form factor with the performance, screw the haters. Vignetting is well known on new gen Macbooks and doesn't bother the majority of the population so it shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Though I'll say if you have an Odin 2 already, you probably wouldn't need this other than novelty.
@geggyboy12693 ай бұрын
I think the thing about MacBooks is they have bigger screens. Of course, I 100 percent agree with you don't get me wrong, but I can see why others wouldn't like the vignetting. The Odin 2 Mini has a pretty small screen, so that only makes vignetting more noticeable. Of course that's not a big deal to me though. I'm happily awaiting mine. 😁
@M_CFV3 ай бұрын
Tons of games have forced vignetting anyways. Granted, I mod it out every time. But barely anyone goes through the hassle of doing that
@cyberspacedweller6373 ай бұрын
Lower battery and sound not being as good from what I heard in the test, will stick with the Odin2
@geggyboy12693 ай бұрын
@@cyberspacedweller637 Well of course if you already have an Odin 2, I don’t recommend getting a Mini. That would sort of be a waste of money.
@cyberspacedweller6373 ай бұрын
Well, I was considering selling the 2 for the 2 mini for the mini LED screen, but the above kills it for me.
@shawn44513 ай бұрын
Was checking KZbin everyday for an early review. Love this!
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech3 ай бұрын
Joey beat ETA Prime to a 1st look video Congrats, I like your opinions better because your honest. ETA is more of a showcaser, he will mostly highlights just the good stuff and not the bad
@nickentros3 ай бұрын
Look at our boy Joey
@BarniDeDino3 ай бұрын
True, but i do still enjoy ETA's videos purely because of how happy he seems to show off every product he gets
@ohseasons3 ай бұрын
Joey must be like “yeahhhhh eta, and retro game core can suck it 🤭” nah
@OC.TINYYY3 ай бұрын
That's because he gets to keep it lol, and also why he reviews tons of overpriced Chinese crap. He wins either way. @@BarniDeDino
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech3 ай бұрын
@@BarniDeDinoI think he does something to his voice post production to make himself sound like that.
@RueLangston3 ай бұрын
Kinda unrelated but good god i'm glad we agree that the "just buy a steam deck bro" crowd is the most annoying part of this community. Just let people buy what they want man 🤣🤣🤣
@koi-et7lw3 ай бұрын
Fr they swarm most of the handheld review just to say that
@zZiL341yRj7363 ай бұрын
That shit is large as hell and a 720p screen is trash.
@agamaz56503 ай бұрын
@@zZiL341yRj736 low res content looks better though on the 720p oled, even anime in 2015 was still rendered in like 720p, and tbh I wish Ayn Odin 2 Mini also had 720p screen but I agree with the original steam deck screen and it is way too large
@ninjason573 ай бұрын
@@zZiL341yRj736it is large but the oled 800p screen is good.
@novantha13 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my Steamdeck OLED...But I also absolutely love the look of this, and I'd be jealous of anyone who said they were buying one.
@agamaz56503 ай бұрын
I am so sad by the negative comments, thanks for this video I am grateful.
@TakunHiwatari3 ай бұрын
This is looking like that balance between power and portability that I've been waiting on. Just hope the temps don't end up being a deal breaker for me.
@DrNZodd3 ай бұрын
Im glad to finally see a video about this. I was one of the first 200 to order for the $30 coupon. Grabbed the mini pro model. Cant wait. I have the Odin 2 Pro and as much as I love it, it's still a little too big to bring with me when I go out. My biggest worry was honestly thermals. Vignetting doesnt bother me, only really notice it if im looking for it. Great first impressions video, looking forward to the full review!
@nullgator80733 ай бұрын
Be sure to check winalator ram usage since that's a currently emerging frontier and isn't super widely tested
@pspsmallz3 ай бұрын
So tempted to order one. The vita design is easily my favorite horizontal form handheld and a slighty bigger version is very appealing.
@KyleRuggles3 ай бұрын
WHOA! You got it!!!! First time I'm seeing it! Let's see!
@HOUSTONERS4203 ай бұрын
"just buy a steam deck bro" literally every handheld thread on reddit asking for any sort of reccomendation 😁
@MrREAPERsz3 ай бұрын
As a steam deck lover myself I'll probably get this for the form factor
@brosplit3 ай бұрын
Reddit is valve's dick rider. If you have the money, buy whatever the fk you want
@wildercerrate72953 ай бұрын
Want a small form factor? Get this, want a switch like computer? Get a steam deck. Me personally I just want the ultimate handheld emulator in a small form factor. The size of the rg35xxH and the 405m that anbernic sells for me is like the perfect sizei
@samsungfan19823 ай бұрын
Awesome!!! Been waiting all week for this!
@LandonElsberry-if3rh3 ай бұрын
Thermals may change since that is an early build model also. I'm very excited about a smaller Odin 2 and the fact that it resembles a vita is just MWAH! *chef's kiss*
@ezhumbug3 ай бұрын
THIS. Is what Sony should've done for the Psvita with built-in LR2 triggers and the size being good!
@Dia1Up2 ай бұрын
Thank you for actually talking about the Mini-LED acreen properly
@PC-ONE3 ай бұрын
I'm glad that the "I'm Joey" is back :)
@geggyboy12693 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Joey! Love your video!
@oW0LFP4CKo3 ай бұрын
Yesssss!!!! You have no idea how glad I am to see this!!!! Please do look more into your heat concerns as you said, as that was definitely one of my biggest concerns as well. And I appreciate your take on the display. Vignetting aside, it looks gorgeous and great for on the go use. I'm glad to hear it's comfortable and has some heft while still being small. Could you please also go over the touch aspect of the screen? Is it responsive and accurate for mobile games that utilize touch? Thanks so much for your awesome impression vid!!!!
@chocho21883 ай бұрын
Great first impressions buddy. You already have my address so whenever you're ready... 🤣🤣🤣
@mattdavis96013 ай бұрын
An excellent first look at the Odin2 Mini. Today I learned that the "g" in vignetting is silent. I've only ever read the word; I've literally never heard it spoken aloud before. See, you're both entertaining and educational. IRT the handheld itself; none of my priors have really changed. It looks great, it runs great, and it seems to be pretty well built. The only knock I have so far, and it's a new one discovered thanks to this video, is that the speakers are more lackluster than the person that replaced Don Cherry. The full size Odin2 sounded excellent on my end, so, I don't know what's up. I look forward to your full review. Congrats on being one of the first to get this handheld. It should be a real boon for your channel, and you deserve all the subscribers.
@washuai3 ай бұрын
Technically, there is a slight pronunciation, it shouldn't be a totally flat vin vs vign and it affects the pronunciation of the n after the g, but both are accepted. Silent is the easiest way to think about it, because you don't want a solid g or j sound.
@SpiffyHandhelds3 ай бұрын
Great coverage Joey! So excited for this one. Looks AYN really nailed it.
@soloistcool3 ай бұрын
Great Work man!! Thanks a lot for releasing the video so quickly after the arrival!! Hope you have a great rest of your weekend!
@hadouken21233 ай бұрын
Regarding vignetting… i think the white model with the white bezel will make it more noticable
@vosi883 ай бұрын
Already looks too noticable for me.
@cyberspacedweller6373 ай бұрын
Possible it shows up much more on a camera than in reality.
@Zx7o.3 ай бұрын
During the full review you should really touch on using Winlator, I've been playing through Fallout 3, NV and 4, and I'm even playing through all 3 Dead Space games and a bunch of other games. Also look at ship of harkinian and 2 ship 2 harkinian for native android ports of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask with a bunch of quality of life improvements, like true widescreen, full 60 FPS and debug menu while in game and the ability to use 3DS textures on the N64 versions of Oot and MM...
@washuai3 ай бұрын
You've been playing these on what SoC, RAM?
@Djura003 ай бұрын
Dont mind me, imma be watching this on loop until the review comes out
@Drivenby3 ай бұрын
The screen might need more software tweaking. . Mini led is not OLED but a high quality miniled panel is ALMOST as good contrast wise , saturation etc . The black levels of the mini led should be very near oled as well. Also doesn’t have any of the side effects of oled : no burn in and typically much brighter
@codered70703 ай бұрын
Amazing overview, thanks for putting this together!
@felipesqr3 ай бұрын
Looking awesome! To me the best part here is how it compares to the retro pocket 4 at 5:30! Interesting to hear that the ergonomics are not terrible and about the thermals (I expected it to be worst with less space, still far from throttling) so looking very promessing
@JiggityJiggity3 ай бұрын
absolute awesome sauce
@oW0LFP4CKo3 ай бұрын
Yesssss!!!!!! So glad to see this you have no idea!
@InuGamiac3 ай бұрын
Loving the first impressions, thank you for the video!! Everything looks and sounds great so far, will wait for your thermals judgement tho for the proper review!
@diegovillamagua46563 ай бұрын
Very helpful first impressions. Glad you were the first to get this handled.
@user-of6ho7nv2y3 ай бұрын
Great video...... very good first impression on stuff we actually needed to know as we didn't need to see all the emulation for this.
@HybridWes3 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey! I recently got my Odin 2 but love tech so I was curious about this.
@RetroGamerAJ3 ай бұрын
Great video as always Joey! Love your content.
@wyattalexander40413 ай бұрын
Really appreciate that I found your channel recently your in my top 3 and love that there is a first look finally very excited to hear your honest thoughts !
@DereksPixeltorium3 ай бұрын
Just when I got the gpd win4! lol
@jorgedelgado52313 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this review. Let's go.
@user-eh1vp3ev3c3 ай бұрын
Lack of ghosting makes sense. With the miniLED layer they can essentially rely on it for contrast, setting the display itself to a low contrast mode which helps eliminate ghosting. No idea how they managed to cram 384 zones into such a small form factor at this price.
@marcushopkins22903 ай бұрын
"Ayaneo Pocket Air, for the five of us who own one"😂😂
@dokferr3 ай бұрын
I must admit, I almost bought Odin 2 Mini, although I already have Odin 2 Max. I always prefer small handled over the big one. But after some consideration, the only handled I also need for now is the soon to be released RG Cube, for 1:1 ratio. Perhaps I'll just wait for another version with OLED display.
@tigersnakegaming55303 ай бұрын
If the mold is going to be exactly the same as the Odin2, those smudges aren’t going away.
@JaviPlayRetro3 ай бұрын
Letsss goooo Joey got it first 🎉🎉🎉
@xxGSII3 ай бұрын
@0:30 that was a close call 😂.
@JoeysRetroHandhelds3 ай бұрын
Shh, you saw nothing!
@outrowender3 ай бұрын
I have a 14” MacBook Pro and vignettes were never a problem for me
@HardcoreTanoshii3 ай бұрын
Great video Joey!
@cyclonmaster3 ай бұрын
I wonder, does it had built in screen recorder? How does it perform while recording?
@jased87273 ай бұрын
This the one..finally.
@Stafa643 ай бұрын
Yeah vignetting is no problem to me. Just grabbed it off your link. You're the man, Joey!
@jeremy__hopkins3 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate AYN couldn't get whatever magic was in the Pimax Portal QLED screen in the Odin 2 mini. Not like that screen was flawless either but a decent competitor to AMOLED, at least to my eyes, where I'm not bothered by the difference. Odin 2 mini seems like a fine option with a nostalgic form factor but for now I'm still okay with my AMOLED devices. Really only thing missing with both the Odin products for me is screen but considering the Android emulation scene has slowed down, I don't mind waiting. Thanks for the heads up!
@jzeroradio3 ай бұрын
i’m just excited for when the steam deck powerful profile can fit into a form factor like this
@mikeyneeley3 ай бұрын
So tempted to replace my RP4 Pro with this.
@fillerbunnyninjashark2713 ай бұрын
I'm using it to play the games the RP4P can't, loll
@fightnight145 күн бұрын
RP5 Bro much better than this
@steamdeckknights89783 ай бұрын
Yep I'll be ordering this over the Ayaneo pocket s.......thx!!
@Incubus2033 ай бұрын
I will buy this.... next year!
@washuai3 ай бұрын
Cuz you need to save up?
@Incubus2033 ай бұрын
@washuai I just ordered the Retroid pocket 4 pro a few day's ago lol and it being my second handheld, I have to give it at leat a year before I move on
@caramelzappa3 ай бұрын
d pad placement is unfortuantely an immediate dealbreaker in what otherwise would be one of my favorite choices. Butting the dpad down there means d-mad centric games will be unplayable uncomfortable. That's too bad.
@pierre15093 ай бұрын
For your actual review, I would be very interested by what systems are permitted by this console over the RP4P in actual use (taking the resolution difference into consideration for scaling). Is it only Switch and high end Android games ?
@steverix81813 ай бұрын
Waiting for an OLED Odin. I'm just too used to OLED panels these days and have been spoilt with Switch OLED, Steam Deck OLED and LG OLED TV.
@washuai3 ай бұрын
Eh, I'd rather not have the burn in and play outside. For the price, you'd think it'd have one of the miniled that make it much closer to OLED, but I guess all the money is going for the SoC and profits
@steverix81813 ай бұрын
@@washuai OLED and burn in, it's not a thing in real world usage. For burn in to occur you need to display the same content for literally hundreds of *days*. I guess if you play outside all of the time this pretty much the only handheld that will somewhat allow that. But, look at that vignetting at 10:37, it's absolutely awful and very clear to see in an in game situation.
@CellPhish3 ай бұрын
Great review
@roc6d3 ай бұрын
Great video man
@SansINess533 ай бұрын
idk why the odin 2 mini never includes a charger.
@cyh49403 ай бұрын
Carefully see the input latency 1 frame by 1 frame, the mini is really response faster than the odin 2. I'll buy it.
@InvidiousIgnoramus3 ай бұрын
Vita sized it good, hopefully we see some x86 devices in this form factor in the next few years.
@user-of6ho7nv2y3 ай бұрын
I took your botton part of the video as the same quality and function as the Odin 2. Are they actually the same meaning the button kits on their site for the Odin 2 will work for the Mini? Obviously they have different shoulders but are the d pad, a,b,x,y and sticks interchangeable?
@danieltamayo623 ай бұрын
Testing the battery with the screen at 100% brightness on both devices doesn't make too much sense, as the Mini's screen is much brighter than OG O2, you should configure 100% on the Odin 2 (508 NITs) an equivalent NIT percentaje for the Mini would be around 50% (as the screen is capable of 1100 NITs)
@Vandel2123 ай бұрын
Hmm sounds like a case of only buy this if you don't have the Odin 2 already.
@serpserpserp3 ай бұрын
Be good to understand if it is actually just the screen itself that causes it to be hotter, or if the smaller form factor of the device causing it. If it is the screen itself, no matter what you do throttling wise you might not be able to get away from it being very hot. Which might lead to the device having a fail in the screen. Hopefully not though!
@wesphoenix53 ай бұрын
So excited now, thanks for the early impressions. Vignette isnt a deal breaker for me but is it know if this can be tweaked through software to minimise it?
@08esco3 ай бұрын
I ordered one yesterday please make lots of Videos about this Device. It would be cool if you Livestream on KZbin so we can ask you stuff about the device.
@Tacquito3 ай бұрын
Wait its not broken? A device came to you in working condition?!
@BrianKeeganMusic3 ай бұрын
I like the larger screen of the odin 2 and to me it just seems more ergonomic. I don't think the newer screen is a deal breaker, an IPS is totally fine. I also like that the Odin 2 has better battery and runs cooler. I could see the advantages of the mini namely for the screen and portability, but I think there are too many trade offs for it to be worth it.
@combatspeed63923 ай бұрын
I ordered the white. My only disappointment with this is there's no buttons on the back like the Odin1/Odin2.
@xelthos20513 ай бұрын
Neat, but I already have the odin2 in clear blue and I'm happy with it.
@AlmightyyCres3 ай бұрын
My only gripe is id like an option to pick internal storage size. I have an RP4P and I love it. But android games take up all the internal space and vita3k uses up internal space as well. I have a 1tb sd card that's 800gb full so far. I love having one device with so many options in terms of gaming. I'd like to have a 512/1tb internal storage option.
@EliasPfaiffer3 ай бұрын
I get my Odin 2 Max on monday and I am the happiest person in the world!!! that was simply my GRAIL and now the time has come. i can hardly believe it :) And the best thing is that I only paid 400 euros / 430 dollars including the bag!!! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@JohanMGO3 ай бұрын
You'll be hella happy. I own the Odin 2 max and I can't put it down
@EliasPfaiffer3 ай бұрын
@@JohanMGOhell yea, I'm going to be so happy! but hey...why u “put it down” ? for what? with the Odin 2 you should play for what feels like 12 hours a day and never put the baby down! I don't understand your last sentence at all... please explain that to me :)
@JohanMGO3 ай бұрын
@@EliasPfaiffer I meant I can't put it down lmao sorry. Let me edit that
@EliasPfaiffer3 ай бұрын
@@JohanMGO hahaha nice one!! have fun mate!!
@JohanMGO3 ай бұрын
@@EliasPfaiffer I have been playing game cube, ps2 and wii with no issues
@noelmunoz25713 ай бұрын
So rg556 screen still a winner 👍
@kalvin.3 ай бұрын
Yes, but sadly it’s not powerful enough to fully utilize the screen (upscaled PS2, GC and top android games). I really want V2 to have that more powerful chip and improved sticks.
@joepage50003 ай бұрын
@@kalvin.I think whatever comes after the rg556 is going to be endgame for ps2/gc if they keep that screen and increase the power another 25-50%.
@kalvin.3 ай бұрын
@@joepage5000 I hope so! I randomly watched a review of the Razer Edge from last year, and that has basically a SD888, and it still didn’t quite max out PS2 and GC emulation. So it seems like SD8G2 in the Odin 2 is really the bar to reach, unless Anbernic can keep the 556v2 under 200 but with the likes of a D1100 or SD888 chip.
@MattHorton3 ай бұрын
Form factor affects performance. I agree that it's going to be minimal differences but it would be worth it if you wanted to get thorough.
@arunavamalo3 ай бұрын
Hi, does it have vibration motor? I am just one step away from finalising whether to preorder..so please reply
@user-ik6yn9sx6p3 ай бұрын
i hope they will sell the dpad and buttons of mini, its looks same on odin 2.
@xw84623 ай бұрын
I just bought Odin 2 over this. I 'd love to have this one too but here is the cons I think (all in theory though): 1) It's same size of Ambernic RG505, form and screen. It's not really small. It's not pocketable unless you are in XXL pants. 2) The 5 inch screen is ok for "play" but too small for any in-game text reading. So you will be affected when playing android games or streaming. 3) If you don't play android games or don't stream much, only emulations, then other cheaper options are everywhere. This processor is overkill.
@decegrease3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a good device, but I'm much happier with the Odin 2 I bought last month. Better ergonomics for me, much larger battery, better thermals, bigger screen. The Vita form factor and mini LED screen aren't big enough draws for me to buy a more expensive device with more cons in areas I prioritize
@agamaz56503 ай бұрын
mini led gets so bright buddy
@decegrease3 ай бұрын
@@agamaz5650 I don't play outside, not really an issue for me. I keep brightness below half on most of my devices in most scenarios because I dont like super bright screens. The standard odin 2 has way more benefits that aren't outweighed by a marginally better screen
@agamaz56503 ай бұрын
@@decegrease the contrast is probably a lot better tho but awesome you are happy with ips that shit drew me nuts
@ivysdanillo3 ай бұрын
Joey, I wanna be your friend so bad!
@ryulanda93993 ай бұрын
>Minimal ghosting on the mini Sold
@chrisw80693 ай бұрын
I think this has a place, but don't understand why they wouldn't take the chance to target $249 with this device. Base should of had the same screen type as the Odin 2.
@washuai3 ай бұрын
Odin 2 clearly would outlive the mini in my 46C+ summer highs environment. But the mini would actually be more pocketable and visible under that intense sun. 🤔
@hadouken21233 ай бұрын
Awesome device!
@rphntw1n3 ай бұрын
I love it. I think the price point is a bit high but I’d probably still get it, down the road.
@DarkKnight20373 ай бұрын
How comfortable is the dpad usage? Because I feel like PSP was comfortable because of where the dpad was positioned, but for this I wonder how the comfrotability of changes with the dpad position change?
@LMarcusJ3 ай бұрын
This is what PS Vita should looks like if it has actual R2-L2 button without those touchpad gimmick. I still love my Vita tho.
@Zaapiel223 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have an OG 1000 that I've jail broken. The Odin mini is tempting to replace it as my main, but I'll have to wait for a Black Friday sale or something before I even think about it.
@greekmanx3 ай бұрын
Good video glad you got it before ETA since your reviews are honest anyway one suggestion I know I have seen other reviews do is if you have a phone like the newer iPhones that can do 240fps slo mo you can record your finger and the screen showing when you press the button and when character moves on screen not super scientific but still would show differences between devices
@anonymousanonymous_0003 ай бұрын
" But these both feel great in my hands" No Diddy.
@SansINess533 ай бұрын
is it as powerful as the normal odin 2?
@JoeysRetroHandhelds3 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the same.
@boxed-sound3 ай бұрын
All good things it seems! I was worried about the vignetting, but it seems that’s not so big of a deal. I did preorder the white one but now I’m wondering if I should switch to the black to have less contrast in the bezels to help minimize the vignette.
@rhncnd3 ай бұрын
I want this. But I need grips. I hope they release a grip like the Hori had for the Vita.
@cyberspacedweller6373 ай бұрын
Curious why the Odin 2 Mini would be using 1GB more RAM on the same title?
@RideByAquib3 ай бұрын
That screen to body ratio is the only thing keeping my fomo at bay. 😅