Johann Nepomuk Hummel - Piano Concerto No. 2 in A minor, Op. 85 (1816)

[@harrylevy5935]

I have never heard of Hummel as a composer.Thank you KZbin for posting this concerto. Beautifully played and produced.

[@PieInTheSky9]

This is the Concerto the 11 year old Franz Liszt performed during his very first public performance. His playing recieved rave reviews in the press.

[@TRIHEDRAL]

Hummel might be the single most underrated composer of the entire classical era. There is so much Mozart, Mendelssohn, and Chopin bridged together in this mega-masterpiece, I don't even know where to begin

[@axelguibourg8993]

What about Balakirev, Moszkovsky, Field, Lyapunov, Rubinstein, Czerny, Thalberg...?

[@op-th1yx]

@@axelguibourg8993 Czerny and Thalberg? Hahahahahahaha. Thalberg has a transcription I kinda dig though, but most of his music is eh I would say. He was probably a much better pianist than composer

[@LearnThaiRapidMethod]

Yeah, I hadn’t heard about him before, or at least I had totally forgotten about him (coz I already have all his piano sonatas in my collection). This concerto sounds a bit like Mozart’s 40th Symphony in the beginning and then some elements from Beethoven’s 4th Piano Concerto. So who borrowed who’s ideas? Well, Hummel actually lived in Mozart’s house (in fact, he slept with the household pets) and so he was probably steeped in the music of`Mozart and the other contemporaries. He was about the same age as Beethoven too (actually 8 years younger). Amazing that as a mere dogsbody, he was able to compose such sophisticated music! (They must have all been good mates and drinking buddies, and had fantastic parties in those days….)

[@op-th1yx]

@@LearnThaiRapidMethod This concerto definitely has many of the elements incorporated in the Beethoven concerto you mentioned. I haven't noticed that before!

[@mr.p5446]

He is extremely respected ! Chopin loved him ! He is a genius ! Not like Chopin tho .

[@jackyli992]

I feel like Hummel possesses the form of the Classical era, and the style of the Romantic era.

[@test-xe4cl]

Exactly

[@timothythorne9464]

This sounds more like Beethoven than Mozart, but it's more tuneful than most Beethoven

[@vaclavmiller8032]

I think it's more romantic sensibility in a Classical idiom.

[@EntelSidious_gamzeylmz]

@@timothythorne9464 more like early 1800s beethoven though

[@loganfruchtman953]

Yea he’s both but I consider him more of a classical composer

[@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist]

5:02 Chopin must surely have modelled his 1st Piano Concerto in e minor, piano entry on this. Chopin was a genius, but his style didn't spring out of nowhere.

[@SILAS-cb9xl]

i mean that‘s how it works composer influence each other and you see and hear it.

[@cugurra24]

Sluchajac tego koncertu ma sie wrażenie, że to trzeci, nienapisany koncert Chopina. Obaj byli wielkimi kompozytorami, a prawdziwy geniusz Chopina objawil sie w jego późniejszych, miniaturowych formach.

[@user-lj1sc9bs4t]

アルカンの存在を忘れないでください、この曲の超絶技巧は間違いなくアルカンに受け継がれました。

[@jessevallejo8797]

It might have influences of Hummel, but you need to listen to the Kalkbrenner piano concerto.

[@gabrielgabriel8096]

Obviously Chopin knew very well Hummel's music and piano formulas, etc... 29:16 min. for example. Yes, no genius springs out of nowhere.

[@Fumozart]

Hummel's concerti also deserve million views on KZbin

[@gururkeremsakar9812]

Here is the father of Chopin's first Piano Concerto!

[@zeynepy]

Resmen (ç)almış şaşırdım doğrusu, Hummel'ın si minör konçertosundan da andıran kısımlar var

[@loganfruchtman953]

I’d say Mendelssohn’s first piano concerto

[@SaintSaens0]

Kalbrenner pc 2

[@loganfruchtman953]

@@SaintSaens0 Mendelssohn, Chopin Kalkbrenner

[@openmusic3904]

Hummel is quickly becoming one of my favourite composers. He has a wonderfully unique style. Every single time I listen to him I come away with a magical impression. There is something extremely enchanting, wistful, and beguiling about Hummel's music

[@timothythorne9464]

OpenMusic he's grossly underrated as a composer. This concerto is one of the finest of the early Romantic era, and is worthy to stand along side Chopin's and Mendelssohn's essays in this form. And it's brilliant, and the orchestral writing is very felicitous for the piano solo.

[@richardweil8813]

Just discovering him too. He got overshadowed by a few of the people he knew: Mozart, Haydn and his friend Beethoven. Certainly wasn't much behind them, and at least was well respected in his own life. His wife was quite an opera star in her own career too.

[@johnvalentine4720]

@@richardweil8813 'Certainly wasn't much behind them (Mozart, Haydn & Beethoven)' -- maybe in some parallel universe.

[@erika6651]

@@johnvalentine4720 This individual composition is absolutely extraordinary and is a masterpiece that can compete with other Composer's concerti. Nothing else Hummel wrote can compare in a similar manner. Unique ideas are found throughout his pieces, but none come together as a whole as this one did.

[@Cherodar]

@@erika6651 Nothing else Hummel wrote? What about the B minor concerto? I think if anything it's even a bit stronger than this one (though they're both awesome).

[@byronsutherland1380]

Astounding performance by Stephen Hough.

[@marcellouswp31]

From memory it was Hough's breakthrough recording.

[@brendangordon2168]

@@marcellouswp31I first heard Hough’s performance of this concerto and the B Minor on CD about twenty years ago. I seriously think that Hummel, or his contemporaries like Ries or Czerny, aren’t played more often because they’re simply too hard for many pianists. With 20th century music, for example, no worries that the audience can tell if you play wrong notes. Not so here.

[@cminor3016]

Every time I go to work this fills me with overflowing optimism.

[@TrebleWoofer1]

And to think that an 11-year old Liszt astonished the Viennese public with this work in 1822 :o

[@alanclifford1337]

Hummel has found his rightful place at last. Neglected for too long, his unique voice is giving much pleasure alongside Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven and Schubert.

[@shnimmuc]

How right you are.

[@shnimmuc]

@Marquis De Sade How right you are. And do not forget Gluck, JC Bach and Clementi.

[@findelka1810]

excellent! The single person bridge between Mozart and Chopin! Love this!

[@ircensko7324]

Chopin didn't fall down from the heavens after all

[@metteholm4833]

Hummels music is full of warmth and kindness. I believe, he was a kind man. He looks kind in pictures.

[@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist]

Czerny charged less for piano lessons though which is why Liszt studied with him as opposed to Hummel.

[@maggoteater2290]

​@@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist so charging less means he is a better person ? Make that make sense

[@user-lj1sc9bs4t]

音楽には性格が現れますね

[@ivankuligovskii5046]

Hummel was the favorite student of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart! And we really can see (hear) why

[@amgx9670]

that ending is insane

[@visibledarkness1181]

To me Hummel feels almost like the precursor to Alkan. Everything from Hummel's, (at times) impressionistic music, his humour, the way he weaves so seamlessly between major and minors, the ability to create walls of sound, being somewhat less known than a lot of the major composers, etc there is a lot of commonality between the two.

[@gerasimosmakris8664]

Heard him by chance on the radio in the car earlier this evening. And now again here, after dinner. What a great discovery! Superb!

[@nikol4y.l]

seems like Chopin took figuration from 29:15 to put in his etude op. 10 no. 4

[@rakeshkrishna1795]

Nikolai Lester literally a lot of Chopin and Beethoven

[@manuelbes]

Not suprised. That was an early work, op 10,Chopin definitely got inspired. Hummel is cited a lot of times by Chopin (I think).

[@nimrodshefer3649]

Well after all chopin played this concerto

[@rakeshkrishna1795]

נימרוד שפר truly??

[@nimrodshefer3649]

@@rakeshkrishna1795 yes, of course, he also played moscheles 3 concerto

[@depechezvous8864]

Half classique and half early-romantique piece :) Beautiful! "His music reflects the transition from the Classical to the Romantic musical era. " - Of course, I agree :)

[@nickb220]

1816? incredible. surely he was the greatest pianist of his time

[@bitchslappedme]

A Masterpiece and a masterful performance.

[@d.o.7784]

There is some sadness to this composition, Mozart was already long gone, Beethoven on the rise, Europe on the fall, the good old days were gone, and it was a new age of superficiality …. You can only imagine Hummel sitting in his candle lit room playing the sad melody of the 1st mov and lamenting his life….

[@jannis5046]

I like how the "Doppio movimento" section sounds pretty similar to Chopin's Etude op. 10 no. 4 and 16th Prelude at some point, Chopin must have been inspired a lot by Hummel.

[@ruramikael]

Yes, it is quite documented.

[@richardharting2490]

A perfect piano concerto. Perfectly performed!

[@richardharting2490]

The performance by Shishkin and Pletnev is also perfect!

[@mr-wx3lv]

What a superb concerto. That has to be right up their with the greatest of the era at least. And this is my first hearing of it. Shame it was punctuated by annoying ads, but that's how it is I'm afraid. Any concert organisers out there, please think about introducing this to the program. People would be amazed at this..

[@richardweil8813]

Adblock!

[@rjuttemeijer]

What a fantastic pianist!

[@rogerknox9147]

Stephen Hough brings a dimension to Hummel that I've never heard before.

[@harshadrobertnaik548]

I just love it and I have downloaded all of his music.

[@sergiosaucedo5834]

Love the melody in the left hand at 14:36

[@Innperlenburg]

One of my favourites - simply astonishing.

[@solcarzemog5232]

Endless flow of good ideas!!! Amazing

[@alvarogarciabarbosa3199]

Great beautiful concerto.

[@renatoargh]

Absolutely AWESOME

[@francescoelia.marino]

A beautiful concerto, I really don't get why these concerti are not played more often by concert pianists.

[@rjuttemeijer]

Because they fear that hardly anyone will come to their concert. If you play Mozart, Beethoven and all the other big names you know you will have a sold out house.

[@francescoelia.marino]

@@rjuttemeijer yes, also pianists can not really differentiate themselves if they all play the same things over and over......

[@christianwouters6764]

Also because orchestra players sometimes don't like to learn Parts they are unfamiliar with. In queen Elisabeth competition for piano now in Belgium here the candidates have to choose one of 5 Mozart concertos of the 27. I suspect the orchestra members would complain to much if required to study new parts.

[@francescoelia.marino]

@@christianwouters6764 that is also an interesting point but they should try anyway I think, Beethoven and Mozart ate great but there are many other great composers!

[@dap4699]

I'm glad of reading a sensible chat.

[@guitaropro]

I consider this piece along with the b-minor-Concerto as one of the best orchestral pieces written in the early Romantic style. The richness of fine melodies, the virtuosic and eloquent solo-part and the colorful orchestral setting together is amazing. Old Johann Nepomuk is here at the climax of his power as a composer. - Thanks for sharing.

[@cminor3016]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom of this genre♥️

[@radualexa1356]

B minor concerto? By who? Sorry for mi ignorance but I wanna know

[@azulyth]

@@radualexa1356by Hummel

[@seniorosity68]

Hummel obviously composed this concerto on an 88-key equal-temperament-tuned piano. How wonderful it would have been if such a piano had been available to Mozart, Beethoven and their contemporaries! Yes, you can easily detect Hummel’s influence on Chopin and even on Mendelssohn.

[@musik350]

From what I see, he indeed composed it _not_ on a 88 key piano, instead on the one Beethoven indeed used, from Contra-C to F''''.

[@kentrosaurusboi3909]

@@musik350 Yes, these pianos hadn't even been invented yet, the best you could do was a Pleyel or an Erard, and even those are in the 1830s, this was written in 1816, so think more Stein and Fritz, basically a fortepiano with extended range, and actual pedals besides the knee levers

[@hectorreynoso6308]

Just love it, amazing!

[@nunyacarrie8135]

I cannot tahnk you enough for uploading this. I wanted to practise this forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you! 💖💖💖💖

[@_PROCLUS]

Thank you very much for the wonderful upload

[@TimondeNood]

Didn't know about this one! Thanks for sharing music and background!

[@htr98]

finally, this concerto

[@fulviopolce9785]

Un gioiello,un concerto esemplare di romanticismo,anche con notevole virtuosismo.Splendida l'esecuzione. Straordinario post, Bartje.

[@declankazem6111]

I really love this music thank you 😊

[@orvvro]

thank you for uploading! Keep going Bartje

[@HedbergHenrik]

How a human being can learn to play a piece like this is beyond the scope of my understanding.

[@carryfreak5059]

Practice.

[@kentrosaurusboi3909]

@@mochaa1727 I see you are a person of culture as well lol

[@23crosspath]

This is one of the BEST

[@JLeeGraham]

Marvelous! Hummel must have been a wicked-good pianist. I'm not sure why he may have felt he was in competition with Beethoven, because the two players seem to have had very different skill sets, and Hummel's is every bit as impressive as Beethoven's, but it its own way. I've long been a fan of Hummel, and this only serves to strengthen that.

[@harshadrobertnaik548]

I just ❤️ and adore it specially when Howard Shelly have conducted the orchestra.

[@benchinoun1]

L'un des plus beaux concertos,on peux distinguer une grande clarté mélodique trés sublime et à la fois mélancolique dans le 2éme mouvement,hélas cette oeuvre majeure demeure oublié,peu jouer à nos jours.

[@eduardoguillermoalvareznav2199]

Maravillosa música, una transición llena de virtuosidad!

[@zanexiao4488]

So many thanks for this upload! This is a gorgeous concerto. Tho Hummel's own No.3 I think is even better.

[@bogdankomorowski8638]

Fantastycznie technicznie rozbudowany koncert i także zagrany. Urzeka mnie melodyjność tematów w ostatniej części koncertu.

[@Xyriak]

Beautifully played

[@k545]

Wow! A first time listen and I find this quite impressive! No wonder Mozart recognized his talent and let him study and live with him for free for two years. Reminds me of Chopin, but Chopin was only 6 when this was written. Even tho Beethoven is one of my favorites, I must reluctantly admit...that this piano concerto made a bigger impression on me than any of Beethoven's :/

[@CobraBoss23]

k545 this is nice but Beethoven concertos are on a different level

[@dap4699]

@@CobraBoss23 yet it takes a genius to identify another. In this case two.

[@EntelSidious_gamzeylmz]

@@Whatismusic123 no 😃

[@jcampac10]

But by the time Chopin was composing his concerti, Hummel’s concerto would have been available to use as a model.

[@rogerkorcia.girard5910]

Moi aussi / ich auch / me too . Total surprise , gross uberaschung .il est inclassable : merveilleux themas , merveilleuse orchestration , prodigieusement écrit pour le piano Bien au dessus de son célèbre Concerto. À réhabiliter d'urgence

[@ilyasozurakov2393]

Great performance!

[@tepmich]

Johann Hummel expressed beautifully soulful impulses !!! Tepper Michael.

[@milwaukeephil2548]

When someone asked me the difference between Mozart and Hummel I said, in my opinion, Mozart was the king of tonality while Hummel was the master of subtle ornamentation. Chopin had lots to build on.

[@mirianashviliketevan8046]

J'adore ce concerto!

[@IanGoncalves]

thank you 1000x! I love this one

[@sousafan100]

ok first we had ries now hummel - it just makes you realize how little we know of all the great music that probably exists out there - and of course the endless possibilities of music yet to be written...

[@mikedaniels3009]

Possibly my all time favourite piano concerto, along with all my other great fave concertos 😀. That a-minor second inversion triad in the left hand ushering in the piano part is the most haunting chord in all of piano literature. Like a ray of the morning sun breaking thru the trees & the summer morning mist onto a balmy and tranquil meadow laden with the scent of flowers and already hosting the early bees. BTW : Fats Waller would have loved those one & two fisted smashing thirds all over the place.

[@cminor3016]

So beautiful; piano literature? Really? How sublime! How perceptive! Poetic. Yes, thank you for your wisdom and experience.

[@cminor3016]

♥️

[@CharlesDickens111]

Splendid music

[@user-ru8vy1uz7c]

Браво супер исполнено

[@Heilamt_music_turtledaihub]

When I am doing an essay on Chopin's Piano Concerto and found this as reference... I should have heard of his name before!!!

[@ladygabes5558]

How was it?

[@herobrine1847]

I should really practice my thirds...

[@andream.464]

Hummel was considered by his contemporaries the best living pianist, until an 11 years old child prodigy appeared on the scene: his name was Franz Liszt.

[@user-lj1sc9bs4t]

フンメルは天才だ👏👏👏👏 彼の音楽に脱帽

[@markus7894]

Bravissimo for the pianist! Incredible speed with quaver = 190 bpm!!!

[@morganmartinez8420]

Stephen Hough is a monster, one of the most efficient and elegant piano techniques probably to ever exist

[@kniazigor2276]

Le chef d'oeuvre de Hummel pour moi. Hummel's masterpiece for me. Thanks to Bartje Bartmans for sharing

[@simonballard6413]

For those that love Hummel as much as I do, try the concerto in E ("Les Adieux") and the wonderful piano quintet.

[@esdjesd8589]

I cannot come to believe that Hummel is almost forgotten nowadays. Ok, not fully, but I’d rephrase that by saying he is not half as well known as he should be. In my mind, his music is THE quintessential tipping point between classicism and romanticism, and not even in the form of a transitionary style. I’ll stress it again: THE tipping point.

[@esdjesd8589]

Martin Baldwin-Edwards It’s clear as day what you’re gesturing towards, but I’d recommend that you at least partially expand on that statement. I can see a bit of elitism from a million miles away.

[@esdjesd8589]

Martin Baldwin-Edwards I see. Just as a slight aside I must say that I am of the life-view (a view I consider much more deeply engrained than a simple opinion etc.) that the constant desire for musical development (rocket-fast development since the 15th century or so through to the baroques,, then classics, romantics, post-romantics, modernists etc.) can lead to an inspirational burnout, which is exactly what we have encountered in the so-called academic musical scene since about 1940. We can talk all we want about progressive new composers, but trying to be innovative just for the sake of innovation and turning music into cacophonous shite and finding ‘surprising new ways of expression’ (such as, say, trying to augment a piano by sticking crap into a piano to give it an ‘innovative new sound’) leads to ‘music’ which is completely anti-musical by its essence. This kind of attitude started with, just to name two, Schoenberg and Scriabin (whose early and mid-works I consider works of immense genius, by the way). Why does this tirade of mine matter? Well, if you impose value upon composers simply based on the level of their innovation and then banal term “genius” (what exactly is genius? what is not? A whole different discussion) you risk moving to destroying the whole sense of music itself. I have mixed feelings on stuff like John Cage’s 4’33” for example, but I couldn’t in a million years call him a genius. An innovator, yes. But not a genius.

[@user-uo3nt4cd7o]

5:34 how beautiful it is!

[@bennywang5752]

Does this piece sound a lot like Chopin's first concerto or it just me

[@peteklat]

No, I agree.

[@mcig98]

The chopin concertos were supposedly inspired by hummel (and mozart of course)

[@SaintSaens0]

@@mcig98 more by kalkbrenner

[@franzeybler1499]

5:34 lovely!!

[@wesowen6624]

You were right this piece is amazing!!

[@bartjebartmans]

Did you check the 3rd? As good. A real precursor of Chopin.

[@medeakalos780]

Ich liebe dieses Komponist.

[@someroyee24]

[00:00] I. Allegro moderato [15:30] II. Larghetto [19:53] III. Rondo - Allegro moderato

[@IanGoncalves]

All 5 piano concertos from Hummel are great!!!

[@alanclifford1337]

There are actually 8 (including two early A major works): No. 1 in C, op. 34a; 2 in A minor, op. 85; 3 in B minor, op. 89; 4 in E, op. 110; 5 in A flat, op. 113; 6 in F, op. post. 1. Then, don't forget the 5 'mini-concerti' in the 'rondo brillant' format, especially op. 56 and his final published work, op 127. Unlike the 6th concerto, this last work is definitely 'romantic'!

[@alanclifford1337]

I should have included the rondo brilliant, op 98. Could easily be confused with Chopin!

[@user-zn1lm7cw5n]

How do you think in case of Hummel`s op.17 for piano and violin, also op.73 for piano?

[@alanclifford1337]

They are both delightful. A lot of Mozartian influence in both works. Op. 17 produces a solo instrument combination Hummel's master never got round to. I'm sure he'd be delighted too. Hurrah, happy Hummel!

[@RakkSemilath]

schönes, abwechslungsreiches Konzert!

[@amusicscore]

Meister Johann Nepomuk Hummel!

[@MarkHeller13]

Very interesting upload, thank you! I didn't know this concerto, but it's very pleasing - and I can hear its influence in so many later pieces... Chopin of course (some remarkably similar passages!), but also Schumann's piano concerto and Mendelssohn's 1st piano concerto...

[@ElizabethPoet]

Which Schumann? There were two: Clara and Robert. In their day Clara was the one who was better known and responsible for her husband's success.

[@MarkHeller13]

@@ElizabethPoet Interesting, I was referring to Robert's, but I didn't know Clara had also composed a piano concerto... Listening to it now!

[@ElizabethPoet]

@@MarkHeller13 She composed for piano, piano trios, leider,etc. She contributed greatly to Robert's and Brahms success. She was extraordinary.

[@harshadrobertnaik548]

Please do listen to all the other of his music not just piano music, He has written music for many music instruments and it is very good to.

[@someperson6329]

Wow this is epic. Wow 👏

[@jackyli992]

Most epic ending I have ever seen 28:55

[@Scottparkmusic]

From 28:53 - Pooowwweeeeeerrrr!

[@xbqchm]

14:04 - Afterburners ON!

[@Janaceks_Dad]

The piano writing seems even more difficult than in Chopin's concertos.

[@jameshandaja1536]

I have similar thoughts...those double notes and the 3rd movement coda...ohhh...

[@fulviopolce9785]

Stupendo concerto,molto più romantico che classico e per me supera Beethoven per qualità.L'orchestra ha una parte importante e non solo di accompagnamento.La parte pianistica introduce quelli che saranno i gloriosi anni successivi del pianismo virtuale di Thalberg,Henselt,Schumann,etc.Ottima l'esecuzione .Gran bell'inserimento.

[@calebhu6383]

28:53

[@davidrehak3539]

Johann Nepomuk Hummel:2-a-moll Zongoraverseny Op.85 1.Allegro moderato 00:00 2.Larghetto 15:30 3.Rondo - Allegro moderato 19:53 Angol Kamarazenekar Zongoraszóló és Vezényel:Stephen Hough

[@foolim1]

I think 3rd movement is truly masterpiece

[@luffy-xe2il]

Simplesmente divino

[@qizhou7515]

For mobile users: I.Allegro moderato (0:00) II.Larghetto (15:28) III.Rondo - Allegro moderato (19:52) Thank you!

[@m.s.6486]

Les codas sont excellentes 😁

[@user-wn1dd8ls2u]

If Mozart had lived about 10 years more, he would have composed something like this

[@DavitMinasyan-rn3fv]

okay i see Chopin’s vision now

[@ensifer329]

Theme 1 00:00 Theme 2 00:18 Transission Theme 1 00:38 Theme 3 01:36 theme 4 1:50 Theme 2 02:06 Theme 2 02:50

[@ShaunakDesaiPiano]

14:04 inspiration for the right hand material in Chopin’s 2nd Ballade? 29:16 inspiration for Chopin’s Etude Op 10 No 4, aka Torrent?

[@user-iv3mg5yn2w]

This piece composed at 1816. Chopin ballade no.2 composed at 1839, his etude op.10 nr.4 composed at 1830.

[@davidrehak3539]

Johann Nepomuk Hummel:2.a-moll Zongoraverseny Op.85 1.Allegro moderato 00:05 2.Larghetto 15:28 3.Rondo:Allegro moderato 19:52 Stephen Hough-zongora Angol Kamarazenekar Vezényel:Bryden Thomson

[@Spyrine]

8:26 that octave glissando

[@davidbukowski3463]

Wow, the influence on Chopin is really evident at 14:05. Sounds a lot like the end of Chopin's Ballade No. 1.

[@huangfrancis8717]

There are a lot of composing skills which influence Chopin~ You can find them once you just hear them, especially his ways of using chromatic.

[@sophiecarolinaabend3284]

14:04❤️ 19:52 28:54