10 Guitar Tone Tips for a GENUINE Vintage Rock Guitar Tone!

[@bwjohn0458]

Even when he doesn’t hold a guitar the whole video, it still sounds like a plexi

[@danny.krastev]

Hahaha best comment so far!

[@dinmentor]

Epic comment haha

[@jojimbousagi5903]

Hahhaahhaaa, man that comment is pure gold 😂

[@lintangken]

Ngakak gw nyed wqwqwq

[@alrecks619]

He is the plexi, after all

[@seansmith6455]

I listen carefully when the prophet of tone speaks.

[@PastorMattMoto]

This is still THE BEST tone tutorial on KZbin. Speakers are number 1 followed by mic's! It took me WAY to long to realize this, and I wasted my time on a long amp search for many years. Find an amp that FEELS right to you, and then just put it through different cabs. Thanks very much Johan for all the work you put into this channel, I re-visit your videos regularly.

[@bengtjohansson6364]

Such a great video! Johan, you share a lot of highly valuable insights, in a way that a beginner also understands. Thanks, again!

[@Richard_P_James]

Johan, I have really learned so much about speakers and amps on your channel.

[@randycarvalho468]

That's the best description of fizziness I've heard. It sounds detached from the main tone.

[@kbkman7742]

Same. If you've ever stood next to a real fizzy amp it's as though the top end fizz has a different point of origin, like it's coming a few inches forward of the speakers or something. Like it sits on top of the guitar tone.

[@FEAROWNAGE]

kabukiman69 More like the guitar playing feels and responds like a clean tone, and then there’s the power amp overdrive going on separately from that. It’s basically a clean tone with breakup farts from the speakers behind every note and separate from the string harmonics.

[@eternalism8274]

one time, the fizziness escaped the cab and was running around the room until i got it with a flyswatter

[@MrTPF1]

Good video Johan! I used to think you were a guitarist who recorded. After this video, I think you're a recording engineer who plays guitar. ;-)

[@mathiaskellnermusik]

As always, great video. I also love the fact that every youtube person always has the camera right in their face. Johan just casually sits on the couch somewhere in the frame. I love how you don't make it about yourself but the information. Greets from Bavaria

[@justincase6151]

I love these videos! They inspired me to have a 1987x built for me this year. Keep up the great work sir!

[@frankierockson]

Tack för att du delar med dig av ditt kunnande, Johan. Du e fan KUNG!

[@LPCustom3]

Great info Johan! I’ve been recording in studio’s for the last 47 years and never gave a lot of thought to what the engineer did to my guitar sounds... I knew some, but you have a very involved knowledge of capturing great guitar sounds! Cheers!

[@jazzmasterash5860]

BEST BIRTHDAY GIFT EVER!!!! Thanks, Johan. Cheers.

[@stevieklaer9347]

Happy Birthday!

[@56LesPaulJunior]

Happy Birthday, Ashton!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Glad to hear it, Happy birthday my friend!

[@jazzmasterash5860]

@@JohanSegeborn Thanks!

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

Dude you just got a happy birthday from Johan Segeborn, that’s rockin 🤘🤘🤘

[@thorwulfx1]

I always find your how-to style videos to be great advice, and drop huge wisdom in a very unassuming way. Thanks, Johan.

[@64north20west]

Thank you for these lessons. It is difficult to find someone who bridges the gap so well between musician and sound engineer.

[@fotomule]

Your 8th, Keep it simple is spot on! Johan. Thank you!

[@siegfriedwashburn3484]

Hi, Johan! Thank you for the consultation. I saved your video in your playlist on my channel. A lot of things I am doing the same, but some questions of course I have. Tomorow I gonna meet my band for the new season of work - we had a long vacation, because of many facts. I am still working with very old stuff, and its time to get some new technics. Thank you for the video, I wish you have a nice weekend after so big present for us! Zigfrid

[@JohanSegeborn]

Have a great weekend Zigfrid, Cheers!

[@mattmitchell8616]

Amazing tips for recording. Thank you so much!!!!! I look forward to putting these tips into practice. I've always been very envious of your recorded tone, hopefully this will help me get closer to what I'm looking for

[@pedrolourenco2707]

Thanks for this video! Great tips and one that I allways share with friends entitled "sound engineers", make decisions as soon as possible!

[@sneifert1968]

I was surprised you put speakers at #1. Contrary to a lot of opinions I hear out there. It’s my #1 BTW. Love my 25W greenback 4X12 cab for live gigs and my favorite impulse response to use is the Celestion greenback, cap edge SM57 either 0 or .5 in. away.

[@leftyfusion88]

Interesting as usual. I've mentioned this before but one day give us an art tour of your pictures in the house.

[@sirshadowplay7287]

this is my favorite tone and the one i immediately go to when playing new amps and i've gotten pretty good at getting it out of almost every amp which you also seem to do, great video as always man!

[@eddiecrews5128]

Great stuff! Thank you, sir.

[@asfaltskokaren]

Thanks Johan! Very informative and to the point. We salute you!

[@afuriousblackman]

Johan you have the most underrated guitar channel I've ever seen. The culture needs it brother. Rock on 🤑

[@stevenmgyori3826]

Great information and Tips! Well done Johan! Thanks for sharing brother, Have a great weekend!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Have a great weekend, brother!

[@sliskenswe]

Fan Johan. Du är för KZbin och gitarrer vad Leif "Loket" Olsson var för TV och dansband!

[@216trixie]

Absolutely right about speakers, being number one for tone.

[@alenamusic888]

Thank you so much Johan for making this video! This is amazing, I love it!!!! 😍 I can't overstate how grateful I am for all of your videos actually. You have been such a huge part of my learning process because of all your incredible insight/knowledge/experimentation and so forth 😉 I'v learned so much from you and can't thank you enough for my education! 👍 -Oh and I particularly agree about the burning bridges approach to recording. It really does make a huge difference, or least it has for me 😊

[@rafaelbarerez7066]

very useful to never forget thanks

[@dinmentor]

En jättebra video, tack för detta Johan, grymt! =)

[@mr.anderson70]

Good information! I spotted the 70's Ludwig white cortex and Giant Beat Cymbals! All the great tones!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Joe! :-)

[@56LesPaulJunior]

Thank you so much for this video, Johan. I have always been very impressed with your recorded sound. Your tone is always exceptional, but without your recording techniques, we would never hear the slight differences between some of the comparisons you show us.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad to hear it!

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

You hav e made every amp sound good, so I would say your guitar recording set up works.

[@GraffitiPhysical]

Finally someone with credibility confirming the importance of speakers. I'm kicking myself for not buying an old Marshall quad box. It's tolex was all torn and it didn't look very nice, but it sounded amazing. Not sure the year of make but I now know its importance. Thanks for sharing Johan, great work as usual.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great advice :) Many thanks :)

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Just my thoughts: I've found that (for me) cranking the power amp and adding the pre-amp to taste allows the power amp to breathe and produce a warmer fatter vintage sound, rather than the other way around. Whilst cranking the pre-amp certainly produces more gain, I feel that it sounds choked, compared to an open power amp. I much prefer to turn the "master" volume right up and then add the "gain" until it reaches that point :) Of course, on the very early amps there was no master volume anyway ;)

[@louderthangod]

Couple of speaker questions. 1) Which modern production speakers get closest to those vintage greenbacks? 2) Any higher wattage speaker recommendations for that vintage greenback tone? I tend to play 150 watt amps and crank them plus I tune down a bit for Sabbath style riffage.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

Celestion Heritage series greenbacks or even the Celestion G12 EVH speaker. Voiced the closest to the old vintage greenbacks I have found.

[@ricardoucr]

The best video ever. I wish i can sound like you. Thanks for sharing your secrets.

[@jfranciskay]

Great video as usual! There is a wealth of experience and information here and it is much appreciated that you shared it with us!

[@pericabenic4413]

I did not know how important the speaker is until I saw this video channel. Thanks Johan Segeborn.

[@lohanette]

Great video. I've not yet recorded with my Marshall's, but when I do as you said.

[@Janne19691]

Thanks Johan, very educating like always. When you have a small, not so great sounding room and when you have to play softly because of the neighbours (as i do), you can make the guitar amp tone bigger by adding a mic to back side of the open back cabinet. Usually works better with 4x12" than 2x12" (i have made mine open back). This way you can get the lower mids added (like in rock tones). You have to remember to flip the phase of the back side mic as it's opposite phase to front mics.

[@kimhansen6384]

It is a very good idea. I suggested that too about 6 month ago. Hope he will try it at some point in time.

[@iam5486]

Johan, great video! Please can you expand on your point no 10 regarding the Riff’s. I think it would be great to hear your thoughts on how classic/hard rock sounds could be achieved by the way you write riffs and the rest of the song. Pretty please I hope you’re up for doing that! Thanks and take care 😊👍😎

[@jcoulter43]

Fantastic information Johan! You are letting us get a peak behind the curtain on how you make such beautiful recordings. Thanks for sharing your immense knowledge. That Amos V is just sitting there, tempting me. I'm on the waiting list for one when they are back in stock at Sweetwater.com. It's all your fault! LOL! Have a great weekend brother and Merry Christmas!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Have a great weekend you too my friend! ;-)

[@eschatts1]

Great video as always

[@dannon2010]

say 421u5, say 421u5, say 421u5.....YES. Im gonna start listening closer to your recordings...with headphones. It always sounds very natural and full. You do a great job. I actually follow much of this already. For bass, I run direct and with a room about three feet back. I get the low end from direct and both low end and crunch from room mic. You learn pretty quick.

[@leesyrjanen3947]

To me, the most important tone comes from the player himself. Johan, I've watched many of your videos and you could make a Pignose sound great!

[@JayBeBerg]

Excellent advice, thanks! I avoid the fizzies with a ribbon mic. Did get an old 545 after listening to your dynamic shootout and it seems to have an edge over the 57.

[@iamgodbringmecake]

These are great tips! Thanks!

[@paulbangash4317]

Great. Video. I agree about speakers and eq , though you can get great results in the mix if you het creative with , say a helios type 69. Exceptions prove the rule though , and you cant beat a good sound miked up properly. I have a marshall popular 2x10 combo which is famous in my life as i can almost always just push the fader up and almost never have to compress it , let alone eq it. Btw , your videos are never misleading , a rare quality 👍

[@michaelorton9887]

Love you brother your videos make me happy also if you run across one and old Lab solid state amp would be great video just sayin

[@vincenzoerriquenz2356]

Hello Johan, i forgot to ask if there are any similar tips that you could suggest for a live situation, especially small and medium venues? Thank you very much!

[@maxxmillhouze9412]

very informative...thanks and by the way, nice lights on the heads! 😬

[@KetogenicGuitars]

Was that idea of getting bottom from the speakers due playing loud makes them compress i.e more bass? Thanks for explaining the decision making thing. That is really something to build on.

[@ESANANIKONE]

Hello Johan. Amazing vidéo, very specific and detailed. Would you be able to explain how classic rock bands handled a two guitars setting. It is very difficult to have information on how bands used to set-up a pair of guitars so they fit well in the mix in the classic rock era. @community if you have any source I would be grateful ! Cheers

[@RafaelNunes-sd3sj]

very nice information! thanks Johan

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Rafael!

[@jasonrobling7536]

I just like listening to Johan talk. Kind of mesmerizing. I’d probably subscribe to his channel if it was about gutter cleaning, just to hear him talk. Lucky for me I’m way into guitars and amps...win-win

[@seanchristie8865]

Johan, your recorded sound is consistently amazing, thanks for these great tips! I have a question regarding speakers, you mentioned the Pulsonic Greenbacks have “that sound”, they are quite expensive and hard to find these days. Would you recommend a close alternative? Do the 15 inch Fullbacks come close to replicating that tone? What about the Celestion Heritage and Chinese reissue Greenbacks? Cheers!

[@simonpilgrims]

Brilliant many thanks

[@allfornaught0]

I've been using my compressor as you said for awhile now. It's the next best thing to an attenuator.

[@DMSProduktions]

Cheers! Great tips Joh! \m/

[@bruceanderson8720]

Really good tone information.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Bruce!

[@ront8270]

Well done johan

[@paulcowart3174]

Whole heartedly agree that speakers are the most important part of the equation And in itself amps more important than choice of guitar as long as it's fairly comfortable to play Good tone is inspiring and will snowball the session

[@USDAselect]

Thanks for those tips. I had those suspicions about the Pulsonic Greenbacks too because you play the solid state the Lead 12 through them and they sound so close to the original Plexis. I cannot get those coveted sounds even through my Model 1987x and Celestion V30s half stack.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man

[@kariabspoel2483]

Sensible, practical and most importantly free from ”mystical” elements (secret tone sauce thingies...). Classic rock tones need simplicity but done right, and that is sometimes hard with all the modern possibilities, so I completely agree on the committing to a sound idea and the no-frills approach in the effects. Getting the basics right in turn allows for experimentation in other parts like mixing and arrangements, and that can get to be fun :)

[@michaelcraig9449]

What all different greenbacks were the pulsonics, and is that the best ones?

[@Rooster7six]

What is the closest speaker,that is currently made, to the vintage T1221?

[@j.cameronbrett2660]

Va bra this is your best vid. It's too subtle though most people won't notice.

[@DavideGranato]

My only experiences of recording are a dear old SM57 and my beloved Revox A77, nothing else outside the cab. Of course I want to upgrade to an attenuator with signal line out and later to a little preamp/mixer. Your thoughts and suggestions?

[@spekenbonen72]

Do you take wavelength into consideration when recording? 80Hz (low end for guitar) has a wavelenght of 4.3 meters. When you place the mic up to the grill of the cab, you will not get the full wavelength of the lowest bass frequencies. That is what the room mic is for, b.t.w. I'm not a professional tech b.t.w., just wondering.

[@hungariantankman4607]

Man, I like your appartement!

[@sniffrat3646]

Some great advice here, cheers from Leicester, England

[@revelry1969]

Great Johan.... thanks!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@grzegorznt666]

is that jackson style headstock on that tele?

[@thomaskristiansen1535]

Thanks for a great video! What do you think of the Celestion Heritage Series G12M compared to vintage speakers with pulsonic cones?

[@Peter-fi5mv]

What do you think about a compressor pedal in the fx loop as a master volume? I do it with my peavey classic 30 with 1983 g12-65 and it. Bought both the amp and speaker after watching your videos on time 🤘

[@svbarr]

Very detailed -- but for an equally impressive tone original P10r',.P10q's, and even P12N's are sweet and amazing......Granted the Jensens are a more 60's tone vs Greenbacks pre 73.....

[@jussioman]

Do you have any speaker recommendations for 2x12 Marshall cab? Mine has old g12t75s and Id like to upgrade my tone to more "classic rock". I guess 25w Greenbacks are not enough for JCM 800 2203 with only 2x12. Maybe Creambacks?

[@myuncle2]

Joahn, have you tried to see how the speaker sound without the dust cap?

[@KieranThinks]

Hi Johan, I am curious whether it is worth using a room mic if you are playing at bedroom levels to record? The volume will be so low that a mic at the back of the room would barely hear it

[@dannon2010]

Great philosophy for LIFE too...at the end advice. "Make decisions and burn bridges..you will lose opportunitues and gain opportunities..."

[@toxto]

I have one of these speakers and i don't even like it since i play clean, chorusy, jazzy stuff i plug my guitar into my brothers bass amp. Is this thing only sounds good for overdriven power chord stuff?

[@Salmontemaki]

Johan, what amp would you say acts and sounds the most like the Bluesbreaker/JTM 45? I really want that clapton bluesbreaker tone but the marshall bluesbreaker is too big, heavy and loud for me. I’d use a treble booster with it (the analogman beano boost). What do u say? Thanks

[@fabiocuccu6086]

Alternatives to vintage greenback speakers with nowadays stuff?

[@ImTheDude326]

Damn I love your channel. Do you do all these videos in your house? I wish you would do a q&a video of questions emailed to you.

[@guitarrock58]

How do you get a Gary Moore tone, without a giant JCM 800 amp and 4x12 cab? Can you get it close enough by using a smaller marshall valve combo?

[@kuitaristi3003]

For Greenback style tones Celestion G12 Neo Creamback is great and 60w. You should do test about it where you compare 25w Greenback to Neo, Johan

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cool, I’ll try that!

[@SuddenAccess]

Hii John, great video: informative! What headphones with noise cancellation do you use?

[@spacemonkey3752]

Do you think a vintage pulsonic speaker is best suited to a purely vintage sound ? I try to get a heavy modern stoner rock sound and im not sure which part of my setup im not 100% happy with but as you said first and foremost its the speakers for the tone i thought id ask. So my speakers are 73 1221's

[@JDODify]

Right. Now I have to search for an early 70s Greenback. Nice place too, Johan

[@kristiankostelac7866]

What replacement speaker would you recommend for the Peavey Classic 30? It should have enough headroom (loud cleans) and not break up too early for my purpose.

[@kingpossie]

Kristian Kostelac watch Shane’s video on the In the Blues toutube channel - Texas Heat, Eminence Tonker, Swamp Thang may be your best bet - he likes amp distortion so he opts for these speakers that do not break up easily.

[@batoli20]

What do you think of the Celestion heritage g12m?

[@JohanSegeborn]

They’re the best alternative today but not as good as the originals

[@StratMatt777]

@@JohanSegeborn Have you ever heard a Warehouse Guitar Speakers Green Beret speaker (their Greenback Replacement)? If so, is it any good? Since you have tons of amazing Greenback speakers and live in Europe you probably have not heard that speaker, but I thought I'd ask out of curiosity. I do not own a Green Beret myself and have not heard one. I have a Soldano Astroverb (like an 18 Watt EL84 JCM800) and a 2x12 with a Celestion Vintage 30 and a Warehouse Guitar Speakers Retro 30 (which is their Vintage 30 clone which does not have the V30's upper mid spike). Your channel and the detailed nature of your content is absolutely fantastic. I just watched your Greenback comparison video and am going to try out a Greenback... I've already got one in a box that I bought several (or more) years ago. It says G12M 75Hz Ipswitch England on the back of it. I tried it briefly at bedroom volume several years ago and (if my memory is correct) I removed it because it was too bright (it's not broken in at all). You have made me want to rediscover that speaker and see how it sounds CRANKED (and I learned that Alex Lifeson of Rush used Greenbacks)! Thanks for this video and for all your other videos! Great stuff! Based on your expertise and your recording setup (and your nice home!), I'm wondering if you have you worked on famous albums that we might recognize from the 1970 or 80s or??? :)

[@ZerstoerenDieStille]

@@JohanSegeborn A comparison between the two would make a pretty sweet video ;)

[@stiffrichard2816]

Before anything, I try out different cables including the speaker cable. Players overlook that significant tweak. Almost as significant as tubes if not moreso. Also, I believe the best recorded guitar tones did not involve an SM57. That mic became popular for live sound use mainly but they do compliment the Marshall midrange, or can simulate it on a non-Celestion speaker like an EV. Bottom line, it was much easier in the old days with tape and the old gear. Now with digital, the electric guitar usually sounds like buzzy garbage.

[@vincenzoerriquenz2356]

Very useful tips Johan! In topic of speakers, since a vintage 4x12 Marshall is not cheap to find and in many cases unpractical, in your experience would you recommend a mor recent or cheaper 2x12 speaker that can achieve that aim?Thank you very much!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! I’d go for a 1x12 with a vintage Greenback in it then.

[@vincenzoerriquenz2356]

@@JohanSegeborn Thank you very much!

[@LorentzHaugen]

Btw, are you familiar with the Simms-Watts super 100w guitar-cabinets? I've got one on hand, but I dont know much about these cabinets, besides that they are 412, and I think it has "Fane"-speakers. I've written in English so all can read and understand, cheers.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Those are great cabs to me. Have seen them with various interesting speakers

[@JMantas]

You need to check speakers for their model. You can find Fane speakers with various labels, but label means nothing. I got Pulsonic Fanes with Sound City labels and they are the best speaker I ever tried/heard

[@LorentzHaugen]

Thank you, both of you. I will inquire about the speakers.

[@222dwardo]

Check the speakers, mine came with g12h greenbacks with pulsonic cones.

[@paulbangash4317]

NorProg Lorentz i have a 2x12 simms watts closed back cab from around mid 70s. Bought it new at the time.2x12 50 watt fanes . Great cab. Also an old orange 4 x 12 which is fab. Hiwatts use fane.

[@Dad-Gad]

What would be your chosen equipment for a Rory Gallagher tone on a budget?

[@rafaelpretto292]

1- Mexican Strat, or high end Squier 2- Vox AC-15 C1 3- Rangemaster Treble Booster style pedal (clone or DIY kit for affordability)

[@Dad-Gad]

@@rafaelpretto292 Ty 👍 What about an EQ pedal instead of a treble booster ? It's all I have 😵

[@rafaelpretto292]

@@Dad-Gad Well, you can try your EQ pedal, but since the circuit would not be the same as the Rangemaster, do not expect it to have the same sound. Remember the Rangemaster was key to the sound of 3 famous guitarists: Rory Gallagher, Toni Iommi and Brian May. If your EQ does not work, check this well priced clone: reverb.com/item/17277190-dallas-rangemaster-treble-booster-hand-made-clone Not bad, considering a Rangemaster would be too expensive (Original for above $2,000 and re-issues and clones for above $200 - 250, in my opinion for a simple circuit those high prices are not justified). Here is a DIY Kit, if you or a friend knows how to follow the schematic and solder: reverb.com/item/14362892-guitar-gear-workshop-rangemaster-deluxe-germanium-booster-diy-kit

[@rafaelpretto292]

@@Dad-Gad Now, if you really, REALLY need that sound: Check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpawdIOFpaycd9k Then save and buy this: reverb.com/item/17529584-flynn-amps-rory-gallagher-hawk-gain-boost-overdrive-pedal-2018-orange-metal-reluctant-sale-24-hour-listing-before-i-keep-it-unbelievably-rare-pedal-made-in-uk Hope that helps in your search for Rory's tone

[@LorentzHaugen]

Tack, Johan

[@JohanSegeborn]

Tack!

[@CNCTEMATIC]

If you can't get vintage early 70s Greenbacks, what do you think is the best alternative available new today?

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

CNCTEMATIC I have Celestion V-types in my Bassbreaker 45 cab and I think they sound good for that kind of sound

[@allfornaught0]

They still make them. I'd imagine they're as close as you'll get.

[@dannon2010]

@@allfornaught0 Johan compares them...its not really that close. Plenty of great speakers out there.

[@boss351gt6]

I've been looking at Scumback speakers. They make accurate copies using the correct types of cone paper.

[@Rooster7six]

Simon Pyrros which scumback compares to those vintage T1221?

[@rangerdoc1029]

Tip #1: turn everything to 10 Tips #2-10: see tip #1.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

Or Eleven when possible. It's one more than ten.

[@napomania]

This makes me lough much 😂👌

[@stevesteve1965]

I always thought I was alone in saying "its the speakers" (and cab,1x12-2x12-4x12 1x10-2x10 ect ect...) Of course !.. Put any of these speaker combinations and you get vastly different sounds from the other,different speaker types within these combinations and you will get different sounds all from the same amp. And don't get me on people trying to sound like a track from their favourite record..😕