John Brzenk review

[@grandpadale4026]

Back in my day I made out with the hottest chick in school. I mean she was smoking. She told me after she had a boyfriend. Then I really felt bad. I figured out who the guy was, turns out he was this weird sap licker who loved bees. He was goofy. Had 7 fingers on each hand. Could type faster than anyone I ever saw. Thank gosh I didn’t get married to her.

[@RRolon999]

Dafuq!?😆😂🤣

[@iSuKOwnerS]

sap the bee💀🤣

[@randydominguez666]

You know she was with him because those 7 fingers.

[@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408]

@@randydominguez666 sap the ultimate fingerer lol

[@yuchenko8732]

under the urban dictionary definition of random, this is....

[@BirdDawg1]

No doubt John is the GOAT, but clearly Devon is writing the encyclopedia on modern armwrestling. Thank you both.

[@bradjones4040]

Devon is better

[@popeyedoyle2103]

levan beats them all unfortunately

[@justaguyfromreddit]

Tell that to Laletin, Levan, Kurdecha....

[@Hhhlll7778]

@@bradjones4040 ????

[@yannickcolot2319]

@@popeyedoyle2103 yes they are so fucking old now, i bench more than Arnold now

[@stevenobrien7686]

Spoke to John once at a practice in Georgia. When I asked him his thoughts about Devon, first thing out of his mouth was how intelligent he thought Devon was. Can’t remember the exact words but he said something to the effect of Devon being one of the very smartest arm wrestlers out there, if not the smartest. No mention of anything else after that. Nothing about endurance, or will power, or tactics. Just Devon’s intelligence. That’s quite a lot to say with very little, and tbh it’s pretty incredible that Devon shares as much as he does and pours into the understanding and growth of the sport like he does. Not sure if Devon ever reads this but never stop! You’re a special athlete that only rarely ever comes along, if ever in the lifespan of a sports history. The passion and devotion you put into growing the sport and developing its public awareness is literally unheard of. Like a one man army on a mission to pick up an entire sport and elevate its level for the future. John is needless to say, a borderline mythical figure at this point. In any sport discipline you’d struggle to find a more dominant, and unquestionably agreed upon king in modern human history. But I heard a comparison to Ali and Frazier before and I think that’s close, but not quite it. John and Devon are truly unique icons in a truly unique sport, and it’s a modern marvel to watch them do what they do. There’s nobody like John, and there’s nobody like Devon. And there’s no sport like armwrestling. Hopefully someday it will be appreciated and viewed for all its unique glory like other widely recognized sports. But until then we’re still living in the glory days. What a sport.

[@JohnHughesTR]

I aint readin allat 😭👇🏻🙏

[@stevenobrien7686]

@@JohnHughesTR Okay cool, nobody asked you to.

[@tonyrauls1941]

Everything you've said is correct. A year after this match and a year of me gaining knowledge of the sport. Devon simply had more desire to win in this match. I'm not saying that John wasn't prepared, but that Devon had more desire, more intensity and was far more prepared than John was. Devon's state of mind was far more advanced than John at the time. This may be Devon's greatest strength, his preparedness and his desire to prove a fucking point. Devon's mindset is his greatest weapon.

[@conantrumparian6826]

That was a gay dissertation.

[@stevenobrien7686]

@@conantrumparian6826 that was a cringe response.

[@MrBrainJunkie]

Devon doesnt have to be stronger than Levan, just strong enough to stop the match. When that happens, Levan will be put into a spot that he has never been in before, and I dont think he'll know what to do. His strength is his greatest weapon, but also his greatest weakness. Devon please make sure you are strong enough to finish the mission. Mission before self!

[@zero082294]

Why does everyone think If Devon stop the match it’s over for levan? Delussional. Dennis was stopped by Michael todd. He still won. Levan has a way stronger hand and wrist then prime deniss which is the key to beat the kings move

[@lrvz7187]

I'm a huge Devon fan, in fact is my #1 fav armwrestler, but this is cyplenkov 2.0 "just strong enough to stop the match" dosnt work on someone x2 your weight

[@willrockdesigns]

Levan has been stopped before. He'll get stopped again. It will take a lot of 🥞 tho.

[@richardjennex6583]

This was so well said

[@richardjennex6583]

@@zero082294 just like you said your talking about Michael NOT DEVON Devon is a totally different person with Way more endurance

[@ThomasThomas-xg9vk]

Can we take a moment to stop and acknowledge that Bill Collins straight up doesnt age.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

No.

[@The1stKing]

What a great video. Watching a grand-master explaining his actions during the fight is a rare thing in my opinion. I love these type of videos.

[@videosYOUenjoy]

Don't you love how John is almost sixty, and when asked what happened here he just says "looks like I need to go train more"

[@RamblinAround]

If John can get his hand and wrist back all the way, I still think he can be formidable. Seems like his side pressure, back pressure, are still pretty good. I was wondering why he didn't try to transition to a press in that first round.

[@danamcwhite]

The sport has left john behind.

[@justchris3350]

@@danamcwhite what do you mean by that?

[@LeahRobb]

Sounds like he was actually lacking in some confidence, so perhaps all the doubters actually had an impact. I also thought of the press. What about changing his grip to the fingers and pulling the hand down. I'd say there were several options. Hopefully there will be an opportunity for the two of them to practice pull.

[@RamblinAround]

@@danamcwhite That's nonsense...John has barely returned to training and already beaten Jordan Sills, Chance Shaw, Kody Merritt, Paul Linn, etc. John has never been a super heavyweight, he just liked trying to take them on.

[@danamcwhite]

@@RamblinAround kody Merritt was a practice pull. Chance Shaw just turned 21 and has only been pulling for 5 years. Paul Linn has only been training for 5 years. Both are good arm wrestlers nobody is a top 10 or has ever been a top 10 arm wrestler after 5 years of training. John was great in his time when arm wrestling was in its Infancy stage. The sport Evolved with out him. John will never be a top 10 heavy or super heavy weight. John isn’t even going to be Sasho, or irakli at the lighter weights. John is done. His next match watch his gonna get smashed again

[@mendicant1981]

Never won an arm wrestle in my life, but I find these technical videos utterly fascinating

[@brainhakker7133]

Go and find Michael Todd , anyone can beat that dude !

[@Dark.Syndicate]

@@brainhakker7133 hahahaa

[@ermesgraspaweenie809]

John said he'd like to train with you some day. Love to see it.

[@4himsanctified]

no doubt

[@Myblacknadz]

Thanks Devon. Was looking forward to you analyzing this match.

[@draco4u2]

Wow,being a casual fan of this great sport ,just amazing to hear what goes on through and through out…battles and struggles even before the go.So much is going on even before the start.

[@RustyPro676]

omfg i was instantly scared to death by the high quality of the video when it started playing

[@MrHeavychevy86]

I'M GLAD YOU DID THIS REVIEW DEVON. CONGRATS ON THE WIN.

[@AdamLighter1]

Thank you for making armwrestling great and inspiring all of us Dev

[@andrev6374]

Schön es von deiner Sicht mal zuhören😊👍 Und frohe Weihnachten Dir und deiner Familie 🌲👝

[@Hamigal]

I so love you but I must admit you made an old lady cry Devon. Seeing John so defeated made my heart hurt like it did when I saw my Daddy cry. Congrats on the win

[@MrE1981]

Love the honesty and gamesmanship. People confuse Devon's trash talk with his real persona. He lost to Genadi, Levan...but keeps coming. Respect.

[@sergejmaher144]

Compensates for his lack of strenght with pressure on ref and abusing setup. Weak

[@okankorad57]

its amazing to go in to the mind of one of the, if not the, most tactical/technical armwrestler in the history. Just how many things that you take in to consideration is brilliant, and this is why I fell in love with arm wrestling, not the strength but how much of a combat sport it is.

[@kirkvj8330]

Yas!!

[@jackssmirkingrevenge9365]

idk toddzilla's pretty damn technical

[@okankorad57]

@@jackssmirkingrevenge9365 i woulsnt say so, while all of the top guys are amazingly techically. Tod is someone who wins with side pressure, aka pure strength most of the time. He is probably one of the least techical top pros in north america.

[@brainhakker7133]

John Byrzenk is the BEST EVER !!

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

Merry Christmas Devon & Family

[@richardbright3826]

Merry Christmas Devon! Loved watching the match, looking forward to the Levan encounter!

[@billfisher8647]

Devon thanks so much for taking the time to break down this match. Very interesting.

[@Gulppy]

Only a champion level arm wrestler can recall a handshake from a decade ago 😂

[@JoniKukkola]

13 years ago :)

[@LilKovy101]

You don’t have to apologize for the detail champ! We all look for your videos. Stay Blessed all. Merry Christmas

[@rapzid3536]

I know a lot of people get into the hype persona and all that but.. Really cool to see a "cold" analysis of the match from Devon with no(or little) ego.

[@DEADGAME1805]

His ego is gonna be smashed by Levan. And he'll never pull a eastern European ever again.

[@fistoftulkas7335]

@@DEADGAME1805 Oh really? It's a sport, it's armwrestling, you win you lose, who cares. By your logic he should've gone into hiding after Cyplenkov, didn't happen. Devon is here to stay, don't worry.

[@bennyb6071]

massive💯, cheers from the Ottawa valley

[@MrObame]

10:28 you recieved a foul because Collins agreed with Brzenk on the point that your webbing was higher, and when you failed to move your elbow back as instructed you got a foul. Not much more to understand.

[@Lettersandstuff]

So a tall arm foul😂😂

[@thebearujb]

Merry Christmas Devon!

[@hiimdominic3780]

Devon is so confident that he tells all his secrets before a huge fight in 6 months. You got this Dev 💪🤝

[@lukeskywalker6809]

He told nothing.

[@patrciaclemons8183]

Told all his false strengths, the counter to these tactics is actually his strength. So when he faces an opponent who prepared for these counters, the opponent will only be, mega countered.

[@hiimdominic3780]

@@patrciaclemons8183 hahaha I Agree 💯

[@hiimdominic3780]

@John Jensen yeah I believe he's going to train like hes never trained before! When he came in to pull MT I was like "damn he's big!". I'm rooting for him. His fighting IQ is off the charts.

[@Rose-st4zt]

Devon doing the looking of to the side staring into space look. It’s his most contemplative.

[@ArtOfRaving]

The jawline and face is the first thing I notice on Dev when he's getting MASSIVE. CORN FED PUMPS. PANCAKES. SYRUP. THE WAY OF THE GREAT PUMPKIN. GET SOME DEVON!

[@aspinaki]

merry Christmas Devon and everybody

[@tigertigercrypto]

I miss your performances so much, Devon. 💪💪💪

[@johndee759]

Nice footage. Your camera is very sharp and crisp.

[@michaelb6569]

Merry Christmas Big Dev 🎅💪

[@vinukarthick6917]

1. John was able to move Devon's hand for only one round. From next round John was nothing. It's funny people say as if John was able to "about to pin" Devon all rounds. Why don't people talk about 2,3 and 4th round? 2. Devon didn't try to flash pin John. What Devon did was containment. If Devon tried to flash pin John, 1st round would be different.

[@goonermort]

Merry Christmas to you and your family Devon, hope you have a good one 👊.

[@BirdDawg1]

Happy holidays Larratt and Brzenk families!

[@6nosis]

Devon is basing strategy on handshakes?! Unreal… The most technical mind in the game.

[@mamaloves8995]

Absolutely you can..and Sometimes you don't even need That...

[@biffclaven3798]

Get ready for Levon! Excited for you to shock the world.

[@zero082294]

This is one thing that’s gonna Be so different against levan lol. Levan won’t fight or complain about grip or setup. Hell just stand there, put his el elbow down hand up on center and that’s it . And if you don’t like it you just won’t be able to move him lol which’ is what happened with Dave if you rewatch that match

[@thejester8136]

100%

[@IosifStalinsendsyoutoGulag]

Well, if Levan has to apply force in the setup then it will only advantage Devon, as he has more endurance, and he will try to delay it as long as possible too.

[@montymatthew1784]

Then it goes to straps

[@anonymoussoviet7798]

Thats one of the few ways i can see levan being in trouble by round 2, following that advice

[@brianpotter149]

Doesn't take a clever person to figure out Levan solely trains for strength and will have zero endurance. One rep max training, the time between his sets, his physique in general. If Devon can somehow stop his hit and just bleed him even for less than a minute, it becomes very very interesting real quick for Levan.

[@BigtimeJuicer]

I agree with you totally, brother... But everyone else would seem to think we're nuts! 😂 I think Devon is gonna make this a lot more interesting than people think.

[@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408]

Yea for that massive body you need a crap tone of oxygen, if Devon traps him into a kings move he is gona be dead in a few surges

[@t.p.ggaming3884]

@@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408 Because thats the only way devon can win

[@xxminecraftpvpproxx2408]

@@t.p.ggaming3884 indeed, if he would try to go into a defensive hook Levan would just break his arm

[@defaultdefault812]

You're wrong, Levan trains with plenty of volume also.

[@Acusumano25]

Hey Devon, love the content you make. i quickly went from "who is this guy that just pressed the mountains arm like he was a baby?" to, "of course schoolboy is gonna kick larry wheels' ass." youre a smart dude and you break stuff down in a really understandable manner i noticed that you were using a camera to film your computer screen - have you looked into a USB camera and OBS software for these kinds of analysis videos? webcams are cheap these days and a couple different OBS programs are available for free. theyre pretty intuitive and a bunch of guides exist online to help guide you through the different processes. basically you'd be able to throw that devilish grin up on the screen the same time youre commenting on whichever video it may be. maybe a present from santa this year haha cheers, merry christmas!

[@steveoz32]

Thanks for talking us through that :)

Fantastic job Dev!! Very proud of you from way up North!!

[@rye551995]

I really enjoy getting the inside scoop on where your mindset was during the match:) thanks for the great content as always

[@InTheHookJohn]

these post match reviews are great

[@BabakPA]

Merry Christmas to you and your family👊🏼Be safe

[@tsjepettow3186]

12:54 Its on johns side because you slided your elbow up for height and John countered that, the height gained in the end did save you rd1

[@Brian_Saginashvili_]

You trying to school Devon on how to wrestle?? Lol

[@provingastrology4471]

Love to see more match reviews

[@polarbear4612]

I just hate that it goes straight to straps. I always want to see guys at least give hand to hand a go.

[@TheDirtyBirchTrails]

John asked for the strap right away. He knew his hand/wrist wasn't strong enough yet.

[@oliverfrestadius]

@@TheDirtyBirchTrails you idio he asked for strap because he didnt want to waste energy on trying to get a grip that never Will happen

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

I wouldn't mind if every match was in straps. Would make things faster.

[@nsb2021]

sabin was talking about this with Ermes vs Genadi, since Ermes was more use to pullin with say North America style setups, for example like travis setting up alot of it determined in the beginning for him.

[@nebulouscalamity6338]

Just watch when Travis smashed Chaffee on right or when he faced that big Bulgarian dude on left in 2018

[@camdensworld0516]

All we ever hear about is John’s hand. However, John said his hand wasn’t as strong as Devon’s hand. But he did say he thought his arm was strong enough to pin Dev.

[@Alex9501950]

Devon you hands down do some of the best work of any arm wrestler before the go. I saw some hate for you on Larry's channel, but honestly the fact that you put that much fight into the setup is a demonstration of how much you respect John. You took the match completely serious and fought him with your all, you were A LOT stronger than him that night. Great match, looking forward to the Levon match. Gonna have to take yourself to a whole new height, I believe in you man.

[@GoodTimeCatchers]

Devon the man the myth the legend. Keep up the drive for greatness.

[@MKSaffa]

Devon always looks like he just woke up

[@TzeentchLordofChange]

That’s how he has so much endurance for arm wrestling, he sleeps the rest of the time.

[@natepolidoro4565]

I like how Devon gave John some credit (not that John needs credit) in that he did surprisingly well round 1.

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

No shit, he almost pinned him lol

[@AaronCoyRacing]

Merry Christmas Devon! Thanks for the break down!! Much respect.

[@mattm1982]

What does Devon mean by "depth" during the grip-up?

[@SpiffingDay]

Basically how much grip or purchase the person has on someone's hand. So the more depth the more of their hand you have aka you are higher on their hand more in control of pronating. Basically why every armwrestler try to gain height because from that position you can pretty much do anything but gripping lower limits your options, that's not to say lower grips aren't good but you definitely have to be very good to grip lower as a higher grip can negate some strengths of the opponent.

[@mattm1982]

@@SpiffingDay cool thanks!

[@publiclypreaching]

Devon, youre the best man

[@robertchristman1727]

Understanding what your opponent may be telegraphing is key to success in just about everything. Devon's higher level of thought process is what makes him an assassin. Well done, Devon!

[@prankaAlfa65]

What are the little flashing devices attached to DL's and JB's shirt collars?

[@LeahRobb]

'Muted' microphones :D (at least they were meant to be on, but I'm not sure we need to hear everything they were saying.

[@tomshiba8073]

Would be interesting if devon drained levan in the first 3 rounds with the kings move, losing 0-3, then coming back 4-3

[@rhysjones4250]

Ye man its gona be 4-3 devon or 6 flash pins for levan with little fatigue... Cant be anything else really.

[@audiomystic]

I think Devon is willing to break his arm against Levan. But I worry that Levan could break his arm in a kings.

[@rhysjones4250]

@@audiomystic deep down we all think the same thing really. Could end Devons career. But... We will also see the best ever Devon. Date is set... 6 months solid camp... And he is a genius as well as having an unbelievable mind set. Thats exciting.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

@@rhysjones4250 Lol, Levan isn't flash pinning Devon on his best day.

[@rhysjones4250]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 maybe not 🙃

[@ohohohitzmagic4536]

the cool thing about this video is it could help John in a potential rematch. But also I could see how this might mess with Levan's head if he were to watch this video. Every opponent brings a new and different set of challenges.

[@isaacarzaga]

Why did John get the bad side of the strap after winning the coin toss?

[@LeahRobb]

Camera set-up required him to be on that side. A bit crazy. Not sure it was a ploy or a lack of communication.

[@dweeder1453]

Love the genius these two guys are. Its entertaining to watch the Setup fight

[@kamyabpk4820]

Please… When stopped Levan, we all wanna hear “Yeah Big Boy”

[@nathanwillett773]

Fuck yea we do brother

[@kartikmisal661]

Devon in 2160p60 hits different

[@deviscyplarratt168]

I wqs just messing at practice with a guy with a shorter arm. It seemed the most fair start was with my elbow and wrist where I wanted, but on his side of the table. I feel if you have length, you have to give up either elbow, hand or center. If I have to choose, Ill give center up all day.

[@donlalo7079]

I'm gonna apply that due to my monkey arm proportions.

[@TheJlmills]

I love your reviews and insight thanks Devon

[@White.W0lfz]

John did pretty darn good considering he was only 5+ months into his comeback! Will you consider pulling John again after your Levan match? I'm 100% in with you on this one buddy... great back and forth in the lead up to John's match... fully expecting off the hook Devon psy-wars in the lead up to Levan! Let's go Devon... let's go Canada!!! Arooooooooooooooooooo!

[@jtboss8139]

No. John needs a return to lesser weight. Him vs Todd hutch is the match in another 6 months I'd like to see

[@ordinarygamer1353]

@@jtboss8139 that would be a war

[@Largetalons]

I mean when MMT used the kings move on Devon a rematch was all we wanted. Was Devon 6 months out of retirement lol? They all need to drop weight. Devon is like 40+ lbs heavier than when I first started following him.

[@FinalDestinationDeepspace]

What an Awesome Video break down.! That was pretty dam cool. All Hail King Devon. ! The GOAT. ! .

[@mmtslaboredlungsounds2942]

8:03 it’s what you came for. It’s the point at which I take over the match. Sfffffffhhhffffffffffssffffffffhhhhfffffffffff.

[@Vashen2]

Hey Devon. I’ve watched tons of videos starring you on many different channels. My favorite of your videos are you reviewing the newest top fight videos. I love to stay up to date with the top fights and of all the fighters you have the very best insights and perspectives. Please start doing KZbin videos of you doing commentary for all the top fights just like this video. I will watch them all 😄👍

[@brunomontbleau1244]

Honest question for you Devon, if the setup and KOT ruleset is so important for you, do you think John would have won the first round with a strict ruleset with a reffs grip? Do you feel that he had good enought strenght for that? I am not talking about winning the whole thing, just round 1.

[@LeahRobb]

Devon said in this video that John could have won this first round if he had transitioned into a flop press after 2. surge I think it was.

[@ebo1234]

Love the spirit Devon, keep on crushing it like you always do.

[@shable1436]

When Bill set refs grip after wrap then moves to wrists, both of you changed grips, so whats the point of holding wrists when he could have just wrapped fingers around you both and held from the top until he said go. It seemed when he moved to the wrists that someone is going to false start accidental because he hesitates a split sec moving to the wrists all while you guys are applying pressure prepping for the hit.

[@Mr_Jingles_147]

You're attention to detail is truly phenomenal. To me it felt like an old skool v8 (brzenk) vs a 2JZ (Devon) match

[@justintakacs8997]

The reason you got a foul in my opinion was because when johns elbow was up your webbings were even we can all see. But if John were to then put his elbow down, it would lower his webbing and they would be uneven. Wheras if you move your elbow back, johns elbow is then down and the webbings are still even.

[@stompingpeak2043]

Devon 100% shouldn't have gotten a foul there because his elbow was on the pad and his hand was isn the middle. John was definitely breaking more rules in that setup but he's the goat so he didn't do anything wrong lol

[@davidbearer4154]

Wouldn’t it be a big disadvantage to have to move to the back of the pad while your Opponent gets to sit on the front of it? Gives Devon zero pad to work with on the go while John gets all of his. I do think that he should move some to make the webbings even but how far exactly is fair?

[@stompingpeak2043]

@@davidbearer4154 yeah both guys were at fault right there. Not just devon. He even explains this in the video

[@kylehowson2497]

The photos in the background are lovely, no matter how big someone is, they always have a soft spot. ❤️

[@senorsnipey1595]

Devon there is no question that you are one of the greatest to ever and may ever do it! Can't wait for you to face Levan! I have so much faith in your ability! That hammer will stay yours bud Happy Holidays to you and the fam!

[@garyday]

Anytime devon talks. I must watch

[@LeahRobb]

Thanks for the review Devon. Thanks for showing the respect you have for John post-match. I'd have loved John to have gotten that one pin, and I also believe a press or a climb up your fingers could have led to a pin. But in some ways it would have been wrong for him to beat you so soon after his return. Where would he have gone from here? However, I hope he regains some self-confidence. You have to love the guy! And Devon, you are also likeable when you aren't being obnoxious ;)

[@gapatoa]

thx for explaining like this sec by sec while rolling the tape, very interesting and much appreciated 🤩

[@alexanderthegood3076]

you have to scoot your elbow back having the longer arm. ive seen it all the time. that foul was correct. all part of the fight though

[@btdtgg]

Holy Shit! A Devon video in 4k. :D

[@panayiotiskyriacou5118]

We dont care if you dont post another video for the next six months. Go deep, become a recluse, use all the pancakes, transform into the hulk, we are all behind you..

[@Je4emy18]

This was awesome! Thank you Devon

[@brenth7863]

Bill Collins is a great ref. Such a tough job he has facilitating this grip.

[@jonnygotaboomboom2906]

Merry Christmas, brother.!! Keep doing what you're doing, you are the face of armwrestling now.!! 💪🏼💯

[@greekguy7422]

Sorry Devon but it does look like you keep reaching your hand up giving you a major advantage and I disagree if your arm is longer you should have to move back in the pad if that’s what it takes to make a fair grip jmo

[@jacobevansarm]

Exactly

[@stevenichols5708]

Maybe the angle of the wrist(fmiddle finger inline with the forearm) should be more in line with the arm. That would force the the elbow back on the pad and the webbing easier to align. You can see Devon's wrist is bent forward to achieve equal webbing as the arm is posted and elbow is forward on the pad.

[@ribses]

If we’re talking about making this sport mainstream (which I know you’re all about), the less of this arguing before the go the better. You may say it’s just part of the sport, and that’s fine if you’re happy to keep it a niche sport. Any sport where you need to know such complex intricacies to understand creates a high barrier to entry which in turn leads to not many people entering

[@sergeysmelnik]

Im so happy its not mainstream

[@ordinarygamer1353]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@szelitzkyerick7456]

@@sergeysmelnik you're happy pros are not making almost any money?

[@provingastrology4471]

Yeah the PAL is so mainstream 😂

[@ribses]

@@szelitzkyerick7456 exactly 😂

[@aronhegedus]

I never arm wrestle, but it's very interesting to see analysis on this because I'd never think about these things. I wish matches started faster though, the back and forth is interesting before the actual fight, but it seems silly to have it go on for 2+ minutes

[@snap-off5383]

6:16 that doesn't make sense with geometry, unless your opponent is NOT putting their webbing as low as they can get it. Then sure maybe you can point down enough, but if they stay low, geometry is going to demand you have to move your elbow to drop the hand low enough to match webbing. John didn't look very professional there, he should have been demanding you grab him. Low guy HAS to. I agree with you about john's elbow on the pad, a word from bill there would have been appropriate too.

[@thatquartz3559]

Man you,YOU made me watch armwrestling.I rly like your all matches alot.!!

[@villadave3872]

Devon has worked out how to get an advantage in the setup, John called it but the referees are just so poor. He puts his elbow at the front of the pad, angles his hand to match the opponent but before the ref says go you can see that angle has gone and Devon's arm & hand are straight giving him the tall posting position advantage. Can't blame Devon for doing it.

[@MrTalon0623]

called cheating lol

[@nanthipat1]

call techniq, When your elbow doesn't come off the seat, he's not wrong he used it on everyone he knew who was stronger than him and learned.

[@MrTalon0623]

@@nanthipat1 no going knuckle high going for height on the hand is cheating. Same as curling in both of which Devon does constantly. He did it against chafee, bagent, barbosa. He always does it verse strong hitters because hes scared of them.

[@fulltang1]

@@MrTalon0623 the other guys can do it too

[@fistoftulkas7335]

@@MrTalon0623 Hilarious, John is notorious for having his wrist curled in everytime, and his false starts. Chaffee is almost always never square, and false starts a lot. Same for Bagent who mastered set up manipulation and going before the go. Barboza another. I can go on, and this is just scratching the surface. They ALL do it, complaining about Devon alone is a joke.

[@dalereinhold9985]

Great job Devon!💪💪💪

[@flavion1259]

Hi Devon , If we look carefully at the first round setting of the arms with the strap Devon you has kept John's arm raised so much is the advantage of your arm (in terms of length) compared to John's therefore the referee forced you to pull back your elbow . There would be so much to discuss on this too, here the principles of physics enter the basis it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leva_(fisica) with the same strength (example side press 85 Kg in both) the one with the arm wins shorter because the force it exerts is transmitted on the elbow (fulcrum) of the longer arm (longer lever) therefore having the longer arm is not advantageous, this is meant for the same force exerted. Therefore I would not only measure the weight but also the length of the forearm, guys it seems nonsense but also the centimeters count and when it comes to the force exerted on a lever the Archimedes principle comes into play "Give me a lever and I will lift the world"

[@billtitus3892]

Which hair can we expect from devon vs levan? I think bald devon is the strongest and most fierce looking...what do you guys think?