John Connor vs T-800 | Terminator Salvation [Director's Cut]

[@flashbackfm]

*Much Better Than Dark Fate*

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

I agree. This movie is criminally underrated. It's such a shame they didn't continue on from this. It's a perfect beginning for a new Future War trilogy.

[@2muchwit]

@@Nicholas_Chen_ Dont mistake better for good now

[@terryprice1691]

Couldn’t agree more. At least Salvation tried to be different. It’s CGI and practical effects are certainly better.

[@SaberKing]

AGREED 100 percent

[@ginsan8198]

Oh, absolutely. John Connor got the respect he deserves in this movie, compared to the sequels where they KEEP FUCKING UP HIS CHARACTER AND EVEN KILLED HIM!!! WTF!!?

[@gavingwinn4277]

Christian Bale was such a badass John Connor. In fact everyone in this movie did an outstanding job imo.

[@klutzspecter3470]

Should watch his Rant about a lighting person.

[@absanchez3637]

Facts even the t 800 had very good acting

[@RasputinGamingPC]

Wish we had a trilogy with him as Connor

[@valeria262]

Klutz Specter you mean the dude who ruined like 18 takes by screwing around in the background?

[@zee9709]

@@klutzspecter3470 that rant make him even more badass 👍

[@darthbaldi4375]

Genisys and Dark Fate made this movie look like a masterpiece. At least Salvation didn’t completely shit all over the incredible legacy of John Connor.

[@rinne409]

Both Genisys and Dark Fate fucked John Connor; JC is the antagonist of the Genisys (WTF?) and in Dark Fate, he is already dead.

[@Mattinator95]

And the time travel rules are flawed

[@Mattinator95]

@@rinne409 and according to DF they stopped skynet . So John wouldn't have become the resistance leader and a robot carried out a pointless order . And if skynet was stopped then shouldn't everything have been reset erasing the first and 2nd films as skynet didn't exist and no need to send Terminators Back

[@陳潔明-w6y]

@@Mattinator95 In a way, linear time travel never makes sense

[@j.t.thomas1859]

@@rinne409 I liked Genisis but I'm scared to see dark fate. Salvation is the best since T2.

[@jezuzcreez781]

I'm glad there are people who are realizing how underrated T4 is. One of the best of the Terminator films. Sadly it took the failure of TWO other Terminator films for more people to see just how good this movie is. Not better then T1 or T2 but a worthy successor in my opinion.

[@baalgar5530]

Jezuz Creez I feel the same way

[@46sn29]

At least it moved the story forward. The last Terminator movies to include Fate have been a rehash of the same killer robot/ protector sent through time plot. Gets really old.

[@SAM_1077]

@@46sn29 Terminator dark fate was good bro.

[@melijahcopeland4101]

Jezuz Creez agreed 100%

[@RobbyBoy2000]

when i saw this back when it came out i loved it still do the CGI and other stuff people complain about doesn't bother me i love this movie to this day i always wanted a judgement day era movie and salvation didn't disappoint

[@gavingwinn4277]

It is insane to know that this movie takes place only a year ago.

[@jmscoper6228]

J LOCC r/woosh

[@jmscoper6228]

Dam it rlly was 4 years already?

[@tonyattardo9350]

Look up Boston Dynamics please.

[@hyungminseo4258]

In what year does it take place? I forgot.

[@gavingwinn4277]

Hyungmin Seo 2018.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

2:28 That T800 reveal shot is genius

[@PsychoCaki]

true!

[@chopper2429]

According the the Blue Ray special features, that was a T-700. That's why if flew back, destroyed so easily. the T-800 hadn't yet reached them. (the first three grenades barley slowed it down) The setting was a greasy and dirty factory floor and was meant as a counter-point the scene w/ Sam in the sterile and spotless clean-room. Machine on one hand and living tissue on the other etc, etc.....

[@FruitBrute2003]

@@chopper2429 Im pretty sure thats the T-RIP (or the T-800 for all intents and purposes) because you can see bits of muscle tissue all over the machine, and it has a chrome finish, rather than the matte dark grey the T-700s have

[@terryprice1691]

Chopper242 That’s a T-800 prototype also known as the T-RIP. The T-700 was the Terminator model that John encountered while he was trying to hack Skynet’s security system.

[@warsthemarvel8608]

@@terryprice1691 I think that was a T600 still. Being bulkier and larger than T700/T800.

[@harveydarvey4585]

That scene of the T-800 rising after tanking two grenade shots was so terrifying especially with its skin falling apart.

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

Not only terryfying but also absolutely badass, you could feel in that scene that t-800 is a f*ckin metal brute, unstoppable tank on two metal feet and the beast that will do everything to kill you. The shot when T-800 gets up and starts to move towards Connor after having its skin melted and still in flames is IMO one of the best ones from Terminator Franchise, or even from action/science fiction cinematography, and an absolute nightmare fuel.

[@mustangcody]

Then for some reason it goes flying when shot by Kyle Reese grenade launcher.

[@terryprice1691]

@@mustangcody I don’t think it was expecting that tbf. It could be possible for them to hold their one weight on the ground. Kindling similar to someone wanting to pick you up. It was just too focused on John to notice I guess lol

[@aaronkenyon7112]

My favourite part of this scene. It looks like a walking tank

[@Timur_Alma-ata]

This is how the real savior of humanity should look like. The best grown-up John Connor.

[@redsatoshiketchum9229]

T2 had it better

[@xanderguldie]

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 I disagree. The only thing he did was looking in a weird way at the battlefield. Bale is far superior.

[@lopezmonzea12]

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 The Connor in T2 takes place after the events of Salvation because of the scar on John's face.

[@AlexKaneROTN]

@@redsatoshiketchum9229 idiot

[@iandirish]

that chica from poop fate scored headshots with the watermelons without training

[@JorisFlash]

"What is your name?" "I am Batman"

[@willmorrell488]

Looks like you messed up the timeline again Barry.

[@carl-os4603]

@The Gems Calls Me Daddy Too by freezing and warming Mr. Freeze... nothing wrong.

[@Kizz_97s]

Joe Swanson 😂😂😂😭

[@shakursteadman8169]

Joris Flash was*

[@Master_Drew]

Joris Flash yep

[@nasmaxfit]

T1 - great T2 - awsome T3 - meh, but fits the storyline Salvation - the real ending

[@Nico18_]

And...don't forget Terminator: Resistance

[@Thefellowmemeguy]

T5 and T6:deviantart fan fictions

[@alexperez3367]

@@Thefellowmemeguy and fuck deviantart

[@aidanpurkiss9457]

@@Thefellowmemeguy T7 and T8- A child's imagination

[@TheBile27]

​@@Nico18_ the real continuation

[@3173alejandramartz]

0:07 John Connor meets the legend. The name he grown up knowing, the person he grown up missing and the hero he grown up waiting for. The man his mother loved. 3:10 Kyle Reese meets the legend. The name he grown up knowing, the person he grown up missing and the hero he grown up waiting for. The son of the woman he will love

[@viper1436]

Till this day it’s so crazy that John meets his dad as a teenager and Kyle meets his son as an adult

[@3173alejandramartz]

@@viper1436 and that Kyle died without knowing he was his son.

[@danielfraser6034]

The sound it makes when it moves just makes it way more terrifying, the clunk of its feet and the growl of its servos in time with the music is brilliant

[@19zach75]

Agreed!!!

[@jasterx1x]

It’s ironic that this movie was hated back then in 2009 and now fans are reconsidering after watching Dark Fate.

[@Alphaclasicplay7671jaja]

Imposible not be glad for the old terminator after seeing the feminist shit that is terminator dark fate.. (sorry about my english i am mexican)

[@mikelawrence1556]

JasterGrumman It’s NOT IRONIC. IT’S LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE

[@Purgious]

I call it "The Prequels" syndrome

[@jovanlopez5284]

This movie has a higher budget than genisys and dark fate that's why!!🔥

[@joewhitehead3]

Interestingly, Dark Fate was better received then Salvation

[@AiePro26]

I really like how the terminator is portrayed in this movie. From the sound design to the actual aesthetic of the models. It really shows that it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. Whereas in Dark Fate, a T800 is now a family man smh..

[@martinadame7594]

ArieEdits thats what artificial intelligence is arnolds t800 became smarter just like sonny from i robot and there always be a machine smarter than the others

[@JSN117]

@@martinadame7594 But in T2, the directors cut(which is canon) the T-800 will only really turn on its learning computer once the inhibitor on his cpu is removed. Even then, as uncle Bob said: "I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do." Also, once the terminator's mission is fulfilled it should probably find other ways to help support the creation of Skynet.

[@wasabi622]

@@JSN117 That's another level of anger for me. At first I thought, they can only do that if they turn on the switch on their CPU. BUT then, I was like, they did do that! BUT then I realize, that terminator died in the lava. So this new terminator learning like is the COMPLETE BOLLOCKS.

[@tavaresmelton5709]

lol

[@asceagleman5010]

I actually don't have a problem with that. Since TWO we've known that they have the ability to learn and adapt to humans.

[@woodkid5719]

Terminator 4 is underated

[@2muchwit]

Nah its just average

[@terryprice1691]

It seriously is tho

[@Jack.Martson]

wood kid it an okay movie at best for me anyway but some scenes are really amazing like the end fight

[@emcats84]

It’s okay. The plot hole of Skynet knowing who Kyle Reese is sucked. They capture him and have the chance to change the past from the future.

[@geert574]

It's sleep inducing garbage

[@joewhitehead3]

“No, I’m not gonna leave you!” “You didn’t!” Cannot even begin to describe how much is said & how much meaning is in just those two words “You didn’t” & Kyle didn’t even know it yet

[@God-T]

that part was meant for the fans !!

[@Tringlishman1992]

Explination pls? :)

[@joewhitehead3]

@@Tringlishman1992 If you’re a fan of the movies, I don’t need to explain

[@Tringlishman1992]

I ama fan just not a fucking twat like u

[@MrTREEHUNTER22]

@@Tringlishman1992 John spent a good part of his life believing his father just dropped out of his own life and left him with a psycho mom. Here he’s acknowledging the fact that Kyle wasn’t a part of his life as a father because he sacrificed his life for him and his mother.

[@brucesnow7125]

Bale was a badass choice for John Connor.

[@xiebeonuanbink8173]

also a badass voice

[@uburton]

I would have preferred Owen Wilson. "What's your name?" "Kyle Reese." "Wow!"

[@crashpal]

BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN!!!

[@Tom_North]

uburton - Lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@jason951138]

If Terminator Salvation would had been a good box office it will had make other 2 sequels that show us John Connor war against Skynet.

[@TheHawkeye0725]

So much regret

[@JSN117]

Quick! Go back in Time through the displacement field. Go to 2009 slap some sense into people, encourage them to go see Salvation, and warn them about the dark fate that waits for them if they dont!

[@sirsia1st]

@@JSN117 true that!

[@nocturnal7345]

Skynet actually asked John Connor for help after this because they encountered a more dangerous threat, and Marcus also survived.

[@ABU_BEKIR_SIDDIK]

It actually was going to have sequels. But the rights for the films expired there was a bidding war and it got bought out by somebody else.

[@19zach75]

I liked Terminator: Salvation more than T3 and Genisys. None of the sequels will ever top T1-T2 but (T4) salvation is a really underrated film.

[@JSN117]

I still really like T3, the true sequel to T2 and I'll accept Salvation as the true T4. The rest is just a bad dream.

[@DVaderOfMusic]

I dont understand the hate, they arent the best of course, but narrative wise this is exactly what i would imagine would happen. Maybe if salvation tied everything up by sending kyle to the past then it would really circle around. But these are action flicks, and they tell the story. Obviously genisys and dark fate dont exist.

[@jovanlopez5284]

Genisys has its own timeline

[@iw_legendary_sayain2215]

Hollywood yet again kills another franchise just to send a stupid message. Idgaf what anyone says I enjoyed Salvation. At least it gave us depth and an actual story!

[@SAM_1077]

Yup Genesis felt generic. At least. James Cameron made a good return with dark date. It's good.

[@terah101]

@@SAM_1077 Not really, Dark Fate was an okay sci-fi action movie, but way below par for a Terminator movie. It killed off a character that was central to the plot of the entire franchise, just so they could replace him and recycle the exact same story from T1 & T2. All they did was rename Skynet to Legion (very generic name), replace Kyle Reese with Grace, replace John Connor with Dani Ramos while giving supporting roles to Linda and Arnold just so they could draw in some extra ticket sales, which at the moment looks like it didnt even work since it bombed at the box office, look it up.

[@HeyIntegrity]

What message?

[@terah101]

@@HeyIntegrity There is a current trend in Hollywood where gender, racial & identity politics are being injected into in the industry. The main characters of already established franchises are being replaced by people of a different race, gender or sexuality just for the sake of it. Those are the factors that are being prioritized now when hiring a cast, when really the main priority should be looking at if the individual is qualified and if they can actually perform and act well. We're all for the promotion of equal opportunities, but FORCED equality and FORCED diversity is a big no no. To add, these 'reboots' and 'remakes' have suffered in quality in comparison to their previous editions, which is the main reason why a lot of the audience are bothered. There isn't an issue with a person of a different identity being the lead in a movie or TV show, as long as it's ORIGINAL, well directed, well produced and well performed.

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

Yep! it showed and explained why Connor would actually have an open mind to something that was part machine, and Anton Yelchin as the teenage Kyle Reese was great, and Christian Bale as how the adult John Connor would be is pretty damn good. And of course you can't have a Terminator movie without Arnold, and it hit that too!

[@melijahcopeland4101]

The directors cut of this film was excellent. Totally canon in my opinion.

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

Agreed

[@AlexKaneROTN]

T-1000% Agreed

[@zaer-ezart]

What's different in the directors cut?

[@MMBN4bluemoon]

@@zaer-ezart not much from what i remember just one or two added scenes

[@gin.590]

zaer ezartzt As far as scenes go, not really much but the film is noticeably sharper and "cleaner", you can tell they went back and made the film easier to watch from an aesthetic standpoint. It's a good purchase if you have the money.

[@RickySpanish12344]

So awesome how effortlessly the T-800 just walks over and rips the older version in half.

[@Factboy12]

Yeah, he rips the T-600 in half and he does it easily. Why couldn't he do the same for John ? The T-800 had a grip on John Connor 4 or 5 times already. With it's grip strength alone, the T-800 could've easily killed John. But what does a well programmed machine does... it just throws him around. Then again, if this were real, those throws could easily paralyze or even kill someone.

[@johnstjohn1987]

In the 8 years between Dark Knight and Rises, Bruce Wayne left Gotham City to fight Terminators.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

So that means the world outside Gotham is a post-apocalypse war zone. DC Universe is even darker than I thought

[@HeyIntegrity]

and his throat cancer was cured

[@johnstjohn1987]

@@HeyIntegrity lol

[@Stellar001100]

The Future War cured his throat, but fucked up his knees.

[@uburton]

@@Stellar001100 "I used to dust HKs, like you... then I took 40 watts to the knee."

[@frankfeng2701]

Story line aside, the cinematography of this sequel is still miles ahead of Dark Fate.

[@Ario2547]

Agreed. Storyline is weak and has stupid plot holes but everything else is great. The T-800 looked scary for the first time since T1. Using Real endoskeletons made them real and menacing unlike Rev-9 in Dark Fate which looked fake and stupid.

[@geonerd]

IMO, the scenes are nice. The story and technical direction are all over the place.

[@theolddarksoul1129]

@@geonerd still better then the next two movies that followed

[@ArmyWolves]

Also in my opinion the way Bale potrayed Connor at least physically was impressive... trained soldier, leader, resourceful, brave and he looked badass. You see him in danger when he comes face to face with a robot except at the end where he conveniently gets thrown around instead of the Termi ator bashing his head in but in the rest of the movie, I was impressed. Even the scene in water when surrounded by hydrobots I felt was great. The plot and his arc may not have been impressive but

[@Syrus7sk]

0:53 They swapped the girl with a dummy.

[@franciscoc2673]

And she landed face first, not even on her back, LMAO

[@charlesjorge9156]

i didnt even notice

[@Cracknutter22]

Omg that's hilarious

[@jackiemcdiarmid6829]

Francisco C Tf? Why would they do that??! 😂😂🤣🤣

[@jackiemcdiarmid6829]

Syrus7sk The sound effect of the fall! LMFAO!!!! 😂🤣😂

[@Bohemian0522]

I wish they had continued the franchise from this film onward, I want to see more of the original post judgement day future. And too bad we will never see this Kyle Reese again. Rest In Peace Anton.

[@Dylank001]

3:55 John Connor slapped the T800 just like Kyle Reese did in terminator one...

[@niaprincess97]

Like father like son or son like father, its kinda confusing

[@TheGreatPooyah]

Remember when the trailer for this movie literally gave away the big twist with Sam Worthingtons character? LOL

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

The same shit happened to T2 and Genisys. Whoever did the Marketing for Terminator movies should be Terminated.

[@terryprice1691]

Yeah this has been a thing since T2 apparently lol

[@WeylandYutaniCorp91]

I disagree. I feel when you watch the movie, it's kinda obvious he's a Terminator. I mean, he was executed in 2003, on a slab and unresponsive in a Skynet War Camp, wakes up in 2018 with no knowledge of the war or Skynet and hasn't aged a day. What other conclusion could you come to with all that evidence? The real question is why no one questions that he doesn't know anything about the 15 year long war, feel like someone should've asked "where you been the last 15 years." On the same subject, Connor tells Marcus that Kyle Reese is his father, yet Marcus doesn't question that, since Kyle Reese is younger than Connor. They had the right idea, I think what they should've done was had him be an infiltrator, but he was built so much like a human he bought his own cover and forgot his programming, which was to kill Connor.

[@LordFindogask734]

@@WeylandYutaniCorp91 that would have improved the movie quite a lot. Instead of having still human organs all he has of the skin of a dead person. He was never Marcus Wright but he still joins voluntarily the resistance. In the finale he could donate as many of his artificial organs (So they are mechanical but have similar functions to the organic counterparts for infiltration purposes) to John connor so He can save him, which is even more similar to the original ending they had in mind.

[@WeylandYutaniCorp91]

@@LordFindogask734 That works too. I like the concept of Skynet working so hard to make a robot that could pass for a human, that it thought it was human and couldn't betray the human race even though he's not human. It reminds me of a Batman cartoon where a computer similar to Skynet tried to replace humans with robots, and it made one of Batman, but the Batman robot was so much like Batman, it couldn't violate Batman's ethics, such as take a life or grasp the concept that he's not human. So when it had a chance to fulfill its creator's objective to take over the world, it betrayed its creator and sacrificed itself to stop it.

[@vikramt5271]

0:09 John Conor inner feeling is like: It's not the time for Father and Son sentiment. Anyway, Let's save him so he will go to the past meets my mom and then I born.

[@tytoguardian]

0:09 father and son reunited. At such different ages in different and confusing circumstances.

[@rusty7984]

It’s so funny without context cause John Conner is a grown man and Kyle Reese is a teenager not even 15 and yet he’s the father in this situation

[@tytoguardian]

@@rusty7984 I know feeling like this is all screwy!

[@iandirish]

RIP Anton....I really liked the way you portray Kyle Reese. He was my favorite hero. I think you'd made an excellent young Corporal Hicks also :)

[@jessehernandez0715]

This is a good movie overall, better then 3, 5, and sadly 6. Don't why the fanatic's, ( not the fans) hate it so.

[@ThatOneguy-xt7yo]

jesse Hernandez I agree with u but how is it better than 3 😑

[@rmi7834]

It isnt better than 3 in any way

[@ThatOneguy-xt7yo]

Gustavo Soares exactly

[@Ryujinn999]

Gustavo Soares it’s better than 3 because it wasn’t some copy n paste movie

[@TitaniumXHero]

Despite the flaws of this movie it would’ve been nice to get a future War Trilogy spanning from 2018-2029. Just to watch humanity conquer the inevitable machines.

[@niaprincess97]

I love the fact that kyle didn't want to leave John behind (Not knowing John is his son). It may be weird since kyle is younger than John but tbh, I think it's cute and sad at the same time because Kyle will never find out that John is his son, only John and Sarah knows. I also love the way John trying to protect his young father, it's just so adorable. Am I the only one who wants to a movie about kyle Reese point of view of the war?

[@sonpanchan]

I think Kyle knew after he fell in love with Sarah, but he died before John was born. Still John could never have Kyle as a father but judging by how Kyle looked up to him John probably saw Kyle with the affection one would have for a child. It’s so weird when you think about it but it’s what makes their relationship so interesting IMO.

[@manofthetardis]

0:54 I love how they just deadass threw a child dummy on the floor face first.

[@sacr3]

lmfao!!! christ never noticed that.. just plops and looks dead.

[@justoandres4951]

Oh man, that's hilarious

[@rayunited2010foryou]

RPTFLMAO!

[@dirkdiggler7727]

Lol!

[@yourstruly4817]

And in the background you can see Mark Zuckerberg being assembled

[@atlasprime6193]

“Why do you keep punching him?” “Why do you keep tossing him?” “Why couldn’t you just punch into his organ like you did in the first movie?” “Why didn’t you just snap his neck the moment you were closed to him?” “Why did you throw him down a floor when you could’ve just kill him there?! YOU HAD HIM CORNERED!” “Why didn’t you just pick up that mini gun from that robot and use it?” “Why didn’t you let the robot keep trying to shoot them if you couldn’t use the gun itself?” “Why does John not keep shooting him with the grenade launcher? A dynamite was good enough to split it in half!” “Why does the factory look man-made? I doubt the machines would need some of these areas and architectural designs.” “Why is there only one terminator? Isn’t there more in each freezers?” Admit it, you were all thinking some of these and other questions as well during or after the movie.

[@Ario2547]

all true. I hate those dumb plot holes too.

[@astickman7054]

this move deserves better

[@kentreed2011]

Easy, plot armor and the fact that there's only one terminator can be explained by a lack of budget in the movie, they obviously lacked the budget to animate and put a lot of T-800 with the face of Arnold, that'd be unbelievable expensive.

[@GF-mf7ml]

Because it's prototype lol, the Ai not much different compare to T700

[@Predator20357]

No I didn’t but I guess they are reasonable questions

[@arnavbhattacharjee2035]

I like how they kept continuity with Terminator 3 in several areas.

[@gorrow1990]

Haven’t seen Dark Fate yet but so far this is only the Terminator film since T2 that actually tried to do something different. If only the execution had been a bit better...

[@SkiaLykoS]

gor9027 I’ve been saying the same thing...

[@darthbaldi4375]

Dark Fate did something different in the absolute worst possible way and somehow was just a copy paste of T1 and T2.

[@omiorahman6283]

Don't watch dark fate that film trashes on john Conner

[@GeekedOutNeckbeard]

I think the execution is a little bit off, but not enough to warrant any hatred of the film and to have made it lose money at the box office. I think the reason it had done so bad is due to Christian Bale and his very public freakout.. Which I feel hurt the movie. Yet, not any of his other roles or movies. Salvation is a proper T-3 continuation imo. It gives us the resistance leader in the making, John Connor, instead of the same shitty time traveling plotline. It finally showed us the war that they were trying to prevent and everything else. The meeting of his father and so and so forth. I wish Salvation was "remade" as written a bit better to fall more in line with Terminator, however.. There's hardly enough flaws to say this is really shitty. Thanks to this failing we got bullshit Genysis and the worst of all; Dark Fate. Now I bet audience and fans wish they got this movie rolling..

[@omiorahman6283]

@@GeekedOutNeckbeard true

[@Anubis-xk4ht]

Christian bale is a great actor

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Until he freaks out on set

[@rebel1717]

Behind the scenes outbursts aside, I thought he did an AMAZING job as John Connor! If another terminator movie is made that takes place in during the war, I hope Christian Bale can reprise his roles

[@Anubis-xk4ht]

@@rebel1717 not another terminator movie enough already

[@rebel1717]

@@Anubis-xk4ht I agree with you only on the movies that deal with time travel. God, we have far too many of those, and it does nothing new anymore. If we had more terminators that deal with the future war, AND IF IT'S DONE RIGHT, I think we can all agree it would be awesome.

[@Anubis-xk4ht]

@@rebel1717 how bad was dark fate is it the worst

[@Jacky_39]

2:07 LOL he used his batman voice 😂

[@JahinAlam]

Bcoz he's Batman 😂😂

[@Spartan11117777]

“Be Ready When It Starts.” “When what starts?” “W A R!”

[@terah101]

After watching Dark Fate, I have a new found respect and appreciation for this movie. It had problems but at least it tried something different, instead of recycling the same exact story line, over and over again using time travel as a plot device.

[@Ryujinn999]

This T-Rip has the same feel towards the first terminator movie, especially walking up those stairs oh ma gawd

[@JackassJunior627]

3:03 gets me every time. Even before joining the resistance, Kyle idolised John Connor from hearing his broadcasts and his knowledge of Skynet and the machines. Determined to find him and help in the resistance. That impact of refusing to leave the man who saved him, asking who this man was, who was willing to stay behind and get him to safety, only to find out it was John Connor himself. The man he idolised and sought to find.

[@eriksalazar2867]

I agree, and he proves to be useful, and with weapons too😎👍

[@Adrianherrera001]

He do his mom tho . Haha

[@user-vo4ey2ob9x]

0:30 Dude watch this unstopable beast this how t800 should be. Best version of t800 for sure.

[@madness0169]

Still to this day, I can't believe Marcus was the prototype for the T-800. Pretty cool to think how far Skynet came with infiltration units.

[@z-man1237]

Especially when its first attempt for infiltration units were the T-600s considering how easy they were to spot with their rubber skin and loud robotic sounds

[@llthk138]

@@z-man1237 sky net actually made them to resemble a human like how Marcus mistook it at the beginning of the movie it’s to entice humans to get closer to it

[@grigoriyengibaryan2972]

The t800 should kill Connor, but instead throws it, pushes it, grabs it, and waits for something. These little things distinguish quality production from clichéd. Despite this, T4 is still a pretty good movie that does not parasitize on time travel.

[@Paar86]

Yeah, that annoys me too. Even if I have to admit seeing flying Connor looks cool, it's only for effect. In reality T-800 would kill John the first time it lays it's hand on him. The other thing that annoys me is the growling sounds T-800 produces. Gets old pretty quickly. Other that that I dig the aesthetics of the film. Especially in this scene it looks pretty close to T2 visually.

[@FULANODETAL]

@@Paar86 if you hit a t800 in the head he will toss you..looks like a bug or some kind of anger

[@Garrison64]

Greg Kiborg yea if nothing else he would be so broken up being thrown like that. That’s what annoys me. Seems like Johns body is stronger than the terminator’s.

[@Nnneemo]

In close combat grabbing enemy with magnetic thermite charge is bad idea for robot.

[@Paul91-]

I'm not the biggest fan of Salvation but this scene is pretty good. Heck. This scene alone beats anything in Genisys.

[@zohebkarim2020]

Seeing skynet central is the coolest thing ever in all Terminator movies.

[@terryprice1691]

This movie is so criminally underrated. I honestly enjoyed it for it trying to be different and the film also gave us glimpses of the early stages of the future war. I also loved it’s use of visual/practical effects and it’s use of little CGI. I’m seeing Dark Fate today. Hope it will be good and Happy Halloween 🎃

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

It was quite bland and dull at times, but overall I very much liked the story and the worldbuilding, so many new machines were being introduced in this movie, they created a very organic, post-apocalyptic world, and also had some interesting characters that could be explored further in the future.

[@estellenatalucci6319]

😊

[@MrOnlyforcommenting]

Dark fate was just ok.

[@terryprice1691]

MrOnlyforcommenting I’m watching Dark Fate tonight. I’m hoping that it’s good but I’m setting my expectations pretty low.

[@terryprice1691]

Update: Dark Fate was ok but it was definitely disappointing and a complete rehash of the first 2 with different characters. As I’ve said before, wasn’t expecting much, but if no one cares about the first two movies, you’ll probably enjoy Dark Fate. If you do care however, you’re probably not going to like it. I’m officially done with Terminator honestly. The franchise ended with T2 imo. All James Cameron cares about is just making money. This movie was a big F-U to many fans of the first two movies. It was great while it lasted but I believe it is on it’s last leg.

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

The shot when t-800 gets up and advances towards John Connor in flames and with burned/melting tissue is a nightmare fuel and probably one of the most badass shots in Terminator Franchise, or even for the whole action/science fiction cinematography.

[@kingalighost1999]

Terminator 4 is highly underated next to T1 and T2

[@edweefication]

A lighting crew was sacrificed to Bale's wrath, all just for this movie. You are always in our heart, bro.

[@SageSea1]

0:25 T-600: oh thank god you’re here, these humans hav- Also is it just me or does this particular t800 look.... bigger?

[@danielclawson2099]

Goodbye, Anton Yelchin. You are missed.

[@greg20067]

Why is it they feel the need to keep giving us new terminators when the t800 is still dangerous

[@DeathByLego]

Just something newer and better. Making something cooler

[@Elitepred5]

Say what you will of this movie you have to admit it was nice of them to make the T-800 look like an unstoppable killing machine again.

[@Elitepred5]

stan broniszewski owned more like be one

[@FOREEAL]

This is John Connor, a highly man with a wonderful display of leadership. Everything that made this man seem threatening to Skynet is being replaced by Dani. Let that sink in.

[@SuperFireEagle]

I believe the original ending had Connor die and having the good terminator take his place with only the main military characters knowing of this. To keep John Connor “alive” for the resistance

[@Predator20357]

They changed it because either they realized it’s a dumbass decision that shits on John Connor all for the sake of subversion of expectations (Think Dark Fate but it drags John farther into the mud before stomping the boot onto his legacy) Or because test audiences were crying way too much (Think the first Rambo movie where Rambo originally dies)

[@abhaybhatt4286]

Also shits on T3's whole twist with the T850 being the same one that killed John Connor

[@helpmereach690subscribers3]

So apparently the reason that the terminator lost his skin so fast was that it was easier to cgi the terminator then it was to have a digitally deage Arnold.

[@gin.590]

Don't forget this was made a decade ago, it's not like now if you have a good enough budget and the means to do it, you can pretty much deage anybody you want. Now whether the execution will be good is an entirely different conversation but it was easier to CG it

[@Frankie2012channel]

Actually they didn't want to have to have a NUDE stunt performer fighting throughout the film LOL. The Terminators are anatomically correct (aka so that they still pass for human if any human sees them naked). Don't want that dangling dong being 'strategically hidden' throughout the fight. Besides, the endoskeleton is far scarier.

[@pricemoore2022]

3:21-3:22 Danny Elfman's music is phenomenal!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊

[@nmartell1007]

It was so cool seeing John and Reese fight a T-800 together.

[@michaelreeves4529]

To think this is the first time John Meets his farther and he is even younger than John amazing scene

[@TheSonOfTheDragon]

Salvation is worth it just for this scene, it's the only time we see the Terminator assembly line and that T-800 is fucking terrifying.

[@myusername3689]

Ironic how this connor was originally protected by a T-800 but is now being hunted down by one.

[@SeFu2006]

T800: Goddamn stop shooting those grenades at me!

[@spongeboymebob771]

3:27 oh how that scene mirrors the T-101 walking up the stairs chasing Reese in the first movie, fucking love that.

[@joshuaperez8388]

0:56 so they couldn’t find a stunt person for the little girl so they put a literal rag doll 🤣

[@pain00077]

Broo i just noticed 😂

[@empyerful]

Kid: Who are you?! John Conner: I’m Batman.

[@Lauradelatorre9138]

That’s funny cause he is 😆😆😆😆

[@jackiemcdiarmid6829]

0:26-0:32 The music is an epic callback to the T-1000’s theme from T2.

[@boltonlad18]

A lot of people owe McG an apology. T3, genisys and dark fate aren't what was needed for the franchise to blossom properly....This is leagues above the other's apart from T1 and T2. #NoFateButWhatWeMake

[@cengawer]

Innamorato I completely agree with you. I remember all forums about T4, people were criticizing him like crazy. Some of them were making fun of his name like “ why his name is McG, kind of nickname in internet?!” People were so cruel about him and the T4 . But now everyone admits that this movie was good continuation of Terminator story...

[@pupyfanatic44]

Agreed, but we kinda needed T3 for this one to happen since T2 ended with the hope that judgment day was stopped...unless this would’ve been a prequel to T1

[@TheBasedangel]

Rest in peace, Anton. I still love this movie, shitty plot and all.

[@marleypax]

Terminator Salvation > Both Genisys and Dark Fate

[@SAM_1077]

Dark fate is good. But I think salvation is more better.

[@PerovNigma]

3:52 Subtle nods like these are a much more enjoyable way of referencing past movies than reusing iconic but already overly-quoted dialogue.

[@Pakilla64]

Terminator Salvation: "Who's calling me crap now?"

[@xanderguldie]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate the sound effects?

[@thee_morpheus]

It's an avg. flic, not bad. But I give them credit for going outside of the 'soldier from the future protecting young future leader mold'

[@J276]

Batman Vs terminator

[@2muchwit]

Thats an actual video. Wow

[@smithwesson1896]

Mr. Freeze

[@SAM_1077]

Well Batman lost but perseus saved him from Mr freeze.

[@UreiMiseinen]

@@SAM_1077 Looks like someone remembers Clash of The Titans!

[@SAM_1077]

@@UreiMiseinen Yup 😁

[@nastaran8418]

I actually really loved this Terminator, actors and story were great

And to think, this used to be seen for free here on KZbin. Then it became ScrewUTube.

[@kwedl]

love how Salvation perfectly continues the whole time paradox/closed time loop thing that T1 and 2 did so well, where events from the past, present and future only happen because certain events from he past, present and future already happened and keep repeating. John only exists because of Kyle and because the events of T1 and 2 already happened ad so on.

[@Jupiter.141]

"If you are listening to this you are the resistance".... Skynet in dark fate:hold my beer

[@hygog]

way more intimidating and threatening than the stupid Rev 9

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

Ikr??

[@Ario2547]

Yup. T-Juan000 is ugly cgi garbage

[@luckynurvita1524]

@@alqindfx4835 lol

[@goodnesswhy]

@@TrAp1O2 Rev-9 got BODIED by a teenage girl and when it had the chance to hurt her, it just grabbed her leg and choked her. It could have tried to break her leg and punch her to death but nope. It chose the slower route.

[@extremistcontent1337]

Right so how do i get to the alternate universe where this was a box office hit and the two amazing sequels got made which would satisfy this hole in my soul for the future war trillogy?

[@Jcc2224]

I kinda just ignore T3 and 5 and 6, and I ignore the elements that make this T4. I kinda like this as a prequel to T1, just showing the actual war and Kyle's origin.

[@vinomsnake]

THE SOUND DESIGN OF THIS MOVIE IS OUTSTANDING, THOSE SOUNDS ARE BADASS YET GIVE ME NIGHTMARES

[@lincoln2324]

This was a really underrated movie. It had so much potential: no time travels, no saving the future leader, no intend to stop the inevitable. The war against the machines it self

[@Theshadowclaw3000]

Jooo this shit is a fricking resident evil boss in real life, both just walking around, Connor on red HP, limping around and reloading in the T800s face. It's brilliant

[@zainaman710]

Let's see Paul Allen's life source

[@elijahcassidy]

Gotta give this movie credit for being fresh. There's really not a lot of ways to tell a terminator story from a different angle, but making one without time travel that shows the resistance's origin feels like the clear next step. The other sequels after T2 didn't even try.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

I like how Bale appears to be hurt after the Robot hits him guy is such a great actor

[@chavez117style6]

0:57 *Skeletor* - "Why hello there"

[@antoniofranciscosotocervan2760]

1:20 So.... Skynet buys ABB machinery lol

[@titaiao]

3:22 Throwminator could literally blow up John Connor with that grenade launcher

[@dcg509]

This built on all the good stuff from Cameron and then Genisys shit the bed. This was original and different!

[@camgold3191]

Yeah, it actually showed us the war, Genisys and Dark Fate just rehashed the time travel element that had already been done 3 times.

[@dcg509]

@@camgold3191 dark fate was poop!

[@jackpd34]

0:56 that dummy face planting gets me every time

[@rwalper]

This movie is where they really started introducing the concept of Terminators slapping around their targets rather than actually terminating them. The damn T-800 even THREW AWAY the gun it took from John Conner. A real Terminator either shoots you in the head or kills you right away (like ripping out of heart of a mouthy punk). The whole reason you're supposed to run from a Terminator is because if it catches you or gets a hold of you, you're dead. But now they throw you around for awhile, slapping you around, almost as if to show some audience how strong and scary they're supposed to be.

[@ericpickens9319]

0:54 Lol On the left is Star OKAY?! She landed face-front?! Damn! haha

[@iamLODD]

Eric Pickens HAHAHA

[@mp5362-i1p]

I never thought this was a bad Terminator movie. In fact, I always thought it was better than part 3.

[@geeebuttersnap2433]

With genisys and dark fate existing, rise of the machines is actually a good film.

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Thats like saying a movie is better than Stepping on a Nail but hey

[@SMFFL100]

Im glad the machines that can see in infrared and night vision, decided to light their facility so well.

[@MrCjprice193]

This movie is so damn good.. It still holds up as a The only terminator sequel worthy of being a follow up to T2 in my opinion..

[@danangheloiu1499]

The slow walk and throwing John around really kills the tension in this movie

[@anubismaat2813]

Dark Fate makes this seem like a masterpiece.

[@jordanelza8806]

I love 2:33 when Kyle shoots the T-800 with the grenade launcher (or whatever it’s called) and sends it flying.