John Danaher on Making Jiu-Jitsu More Palatable to Watch

[@jopo7996]

Legend has it when John Danaher goes to bed he removes his rash guard and puts on his rashjamas.

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[@larsvannoort8760]

its wierd right he always has one on

[@TristanBehrens]

That's clearly a myth because John never takes off his Rash guard

[@lucidcontroller1383]

John Danaher got a Rash once when he was 10. He then looked in the mirror and said "Never again".

[@darkoale3299]

This deserves all the likes.

[@therandomraving7490]

Allllll the likes

[@SuperSpada]

While I always appreciate all of the danaher rash guard jokes, this one actually made me spit out my coffee from laughter!!! 😂😂😂 Well done sir!

[@tetokesenye397]

This made me cackle like a madman 😂

[@bluecollarboys6294]

Dude lmao

[@iorekby]

John mentions Judo here and there's a cultural thing in Japanese Judoka that they always want to win by Ippon (which is the Judo equivalent of a KO). Even when most Japanese Judoka are ahead on the scoring system, they are still constantly trying to score the "KO" because it's the highest form of Judo. They have a real pride about the art and always want to strive for that old school decisive blow. It's a great example other people, including other Judoka, could learn from.

[@tsquirrel8675]

You know its gonna be a good podcast when its 2 bald people talking about fighting

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As a bald man myself .. Did laugh my ass off.

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When i read i title like this, there's only one possibility for me: my index finger instinctively curls on my right hand, my left hand holds my phone tight in a body triangle, using my curled index finger on my right hand i gently bridge it, creating a more straight finger, i press the thumb nail, at this moment the video has no choice but to play, iv now acquired a full state of "double trouble" on the thumbnail, it has only two choices, play the video or go straight to an advertisement. What you don't realise, while this was happening, my feet had control of my lap top and i not only acquired KZbin premium but i got one month free. Do you see what i done there? I forced the thumbnail to play the video, this is how things are done OK.

[@desmorga6757]

Genius

[@MrXrisd01]

You need to be on the jocko willink podcast

[@caseybuentello]

This wins and you deserve an award.

[@javajoe_gaming9923]

There can be no better comment

[@jeffmoore4940]

If psilocybin generated your UNCANNY Danaher impression, you should try rolling with people on your next trip to see if you can channel those Death Squad skills. Brilliant post, btw. 😄

[@tc4524]

The Jiu Jitsu Gods have blessed us with Danaher, Ryan, and Jones in the last month. Praise to Hoyce Gracie, much hespect.

[@charlesanekwe571]

🤣

[@orlanskimer]

Found the White belt

[@RozenBridge]

Why Royce?

[@conservativevoice1164]

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[@tokiburoak7457]

Something tells me the Gracie family doesn't like Danaher.

[@vndtta9361]

Speaking of Jiu Jitsu, I miss Uncle Joey being on the experience.

[@RespekTV]

John Danaher is the "engineer" from Alien Prometheus

[@sombojoe]

I always thought that a submission only tournament with a time limit where both participants get disqualified if there was not a winner would be a way to pick up the action.

[@WindHashira]

If you want to be the best, don't listen to what everyone says. Watch what the best do. That is how you reach athletic superiority. - John Danaher

[@jimmytimmy3680]

Why is Joe talking to a mirror?

[@donaldmattos1759]

Danaher is who joe sees when he looks in the mirror

[@liggerstuxin1]

@@pacoraban513 excuses, excuses...

[@DT-bp2om]

Two kettlebells staring each other down

[@user-dd7pq2to3o]

Rogan is a mental and physical midget. He's definitely not looking in any mirror champ

[@kforcer]

You have to create incentives for active games and risk-taking, just the way that boxing does. Taking risks and engaging the opponent is incentivized in boxing in ways it isn't in jiu jitsu. Also, having rules that favor the dynamic aspects of the art, including takedowns, throws and standing submission entries and submission attempts in general and give minimal rewards to guard passing and positional control would naturally result in a more exciting game.

[@iorekby]

They should make it so that if you don't submit your opponent in the time limit, both of you go out and the person in the next round you would've faced gets a bye.

[@nathantheophilus4856]

Literally the most dominant boxer of the past 20 years is insanely boring. Floyd Mayweather. Boxing is just a sport people consume more easily; and the CULTURE of people needing or wanting the knockout is more prevalent because of how corrupt boxing judging is. From audience persoective the brain is more conditioned to accept punching as a valid form of combat. In fact, a lesson to take from boxing is just to have the shittiest judging panel around so players won't risk it and just go for submissions 🤣🤣

[@futureskipper4616]

"I will show you how you could easily break another person's leg in 34 simple steps"

[@adamgriss2025]

I never cease to be amazed and in awe of John Danaher’s ability to so eloquently express himself.

[@nateb.8405]

This is the most eloquent description of John Danaher

[@GaborGeorge]

This is why Quintet is the best grappling show I've ever seen. So much action, submissions in that format and so fun to see which team gets to the end. So i think the rules can make a big difference. I hope other big organisations will start to take a similar approach as you could do it similarly with one on one matches too not just team matches.

[@Amrani97]

It reminds of team judo matches or kosen judo. Making it a 'team' sport in a way also just makes it more entertaining in my opinion. Watching someone bring it back for his team is hype

[@kiptinobvious1622]

John's quiet voice at the end of the video then Joe: CATCH JOE ROGAN ON SPOTIFY !

[@tomizzo5314]

Aids to my ears at this point

[@OttoMack1]

@@tomizzo5314 Hearing Aids?

[@xBaconbitz]

Grappling needs to incorporate an Elo system at black belt. You get a significantly higher rating if you finish a match via submission under any recognised organisation. Only the top X amount of grapplers are selected each year for a division based on their Elo for things like Major tournaments like the Nationals, Europeans, Asian Open, the Pans and Worlds.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

The day I started my Jiu Jitsu training was around 275 in weight today 220

[@nikolateslacoil4003]

Congrats man, bet you feel great

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

@@nikolateslacoil4003 can actually breathe so yes

[@GbawlZ]

Keep going

[@Zay13378]

Nice! Congrays

[@EmilioParker]

We need a Joe Rogan skin on Warzone and his quip to be - "Bring that up, Jamie" 🤣

[@garyguillen8447]

Lolol good one

[@Frazful]

6:55 Quintet tournaments encouraged submission. They were GREAT.

[@maliksamarijones9304]

One really big problem with watching jiu jitsu is that people don't like fighters butt scooting all over the map like a puppy with hemorrhoids 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@luigiwaza9459]

Adcc rules fix this to a certain extent

[@newgunguy4176]

Kron was very submission hungry, too.

[@RPJ412]

Dude what a combat genius, his whole point on the pin and judo throw being something you can come back from to win a fight, compared to a fight ending submission was interesting.

[@kirkmalone4429]

Man I want Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo to come back again. The 3 musketeers of Podcasting!!!

[@kirkmalone4429]

@@user80014 who are the idiots?

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[@SauravKumar-st5rs]

Fook yeah

[@GMunoz-oj5zb]

@@kirkmalone4429 Wow, does he need to explain it to you?

[@kirkmalone4429]

@@GMunoz-oj5zb ok who are the idiots

[@nivekmendez6376]

Legend has it when John Danaher goes to bed he removes his rashguard and puts on his Gi 🥋🥋🥋🥋

[@apollospayne]

😅

[@aaronfalcon7142]

ADCC rules should have been inverted- points on in the first 5 mins, no points in the last 5 mins. woulda been better.

[@carlnickson7353]

i thought that too at first but then the fight would basically be decided in the first 5 minutes by points, and there almost wouldnt be a point to the second half

[@Bob-C]

@@carlnickson7353 whoever is behind on points would need to push for a submission though, no other way to win

[@nathantheophilus4856]

@@Bob-C yea but the dude who's ahead will just stall

[@Ramiiam]

FloGrappling came out of nowhere and starting producing great content.

[@somgandachonco7278]

Damn, joe might convince me to start watching on Spotify😅 just to hear Professor Danaher

[@lexusmexicano]

Also I think it would be more exciting for jiu jitsu to add a point cap that would end the match like it does in wrestling. If you’re up 15 pts in wresting match is over. I think that would also lead to more submission and is equally if not more decisively dominant than submitting your opponent. Also it may be beneficial to have a scoring system in which points for a submission is +6 for your team, +5 for a tech submission resulting from +15 score and so on and so forth.

[@adamturner8732]

When you have great coaches who have a real philosophy and can articulate it like John... its amazing.

[@brianbradley1345]

The truth is people don't know what they're watching thats why when a fight gets to ground people try to break it up

[@LoneStarVII]

Could make a money incentive for people who get the submission.

[@radiofreealbemuth]

Also Pride red cards that deduct their purse.

[@jonasjorgensen8759]

Isnt that how they do it in one championship?

[@soldieroftruth77]

Create penalties if your opponent breaks free from you and stands up. Create rewards for athletes who actually get submissions. Rules can help guide but John is right, it’s also a major cultural problem. Many gyms just want to produce “winners” but winning at any cost is probably not good for any sport.

[@vash3860]

He's 100% correct about the production value. I've begun looking in my area for a BJJ school since watching flograppling on KZbin. Didn't know they streamed the fights, new sub incoming!

[@aqdjbcr]

I disagree with Danaher on the culture being what needs to change thing. Pro athletes will always try to win within the rule set. Rules are in place to make competitions fair and watchable. In soccer you used to be able to pass back to the goalie and they could pick it up, when a team abused this and time wasted the entire 90 minute game to win a World Cup the rule was changed because the game was unwatchable. They did similarly with the offside rule because players found ways to cheat and avoid playing the game. There are examples in every major sport like this. It’s silly and naive to rely on individual teams/competitors to be ethical and do what’s right for the greater good of the sport over their own individual self interests.

[@benm5913]

Agree 100%.

[@100mphFastball]

Soccer can get rid of offsides tho. Basketball doesn’t have offsides. It’s called cherry picking in hoops. It’s frowned upon but, that’s what defensive adaptability is all about.

[@Ryanin2D]

That's true to the extent of the majority. But it's in the minority where the innovators and the best players arise. Look at Danaher's death squad for example. Like you said, the majority of jiu jitsu players would try to win by points, as per the rule set. But his team trains for submissions, which is significantly harder and more impressive. So, you're right. However, outliers are also a factor.

[@chrisj1612]

@@100mphFastball With modern football(soccer) being so fast I can't imagine getting rid of offsides... It would give us some hockey results. You can't compare basketball to football, offside rule is ever so needed to keep the game balanced imo.

[@milesmcstylez]

It doesn't necessarily have to be an ethical decision; it can also be a financial/branding decision. Athletes who want to stand out and be a star in their sport, whether to gain sponsorships or just for the sake of reputation, will go above and beyond just aiming for a "safe win". You see this in other sports where athletes try to be exciting to watch, but there usually has to be a sufficient financial incentive; jiu jiutsu might still be too much of a niche sport for that incentive structure to work.

[@losborn411]

Legend has it JD has a rash guard for winter, spring, summer fall. 🌿

[@dragonbrown1494]

Being a martial artist doesn't necessarily make you an athlete, albeit being an athlete will make you a better martial artist.

[@jayluis189]

But what is yesterday's tomorrow, and tomorrow's yesterday?

[@thehumanitarian99]

Surely you must have some decent athleticism to be able to perform the skills required to be called a 'martial artist'?

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

THIS! How many of us have seen 80 or 800lb "black belts" lol

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[@shawncicalese4094]

Herschal Walker

[@FeathersMcGraw_]

I can't believe Joe Rogan finally got Roe Jogan back on the show!

[@PapaPerk360]

Shout out to Flograppling for stepping up your social media proficiency!

[@jackadoni]

I agree. Jiu jitsu has to become something it's never been: an attacking/ positive art instead of what it is: a deficit/negative art.

[@darmy9548]

“My little birds are everywhere. Even in the North. They whisper to me, the strangest stories” - Lord Varys/John danaher

[@marcusballard2550]

Love hearing Danahers points on anything regarding jj. Such a wealth of knowledge.

[@Wheres-Wolfie]

This guy is a master! He can put me to sleep just by taking!

[@guilhermematos5897]

Brazilian jiu-jitsu, what a proud! (Hello from Brazil!🇧🇷)

[@Indiadagreat18]

His answer to lex on meaning of life is the best answer I have ever heard 🙏

[@johnnypillow480]

To show Gods Glory to those in the Heavenly Places

[@danielstan3345]

I absoloutly love listening to John

[@runtz4sale241]

we just need joe rogan to commentate the events and we are good

[@trevorladouceur656]

100% that would get so many more events in just a few events

[@mindgames9614]

Eddie Bravo needs to come back on the show

[@1stblackpm]

No he Does Not

[@dukedangles9712]

@@1stblackpm 😂😂😂

[@terror-vk7jx]

i wonder if spotify will let that happen 🤔

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[@kirkmalone4429]

Yeah him and Alex and Joe had some synergy going on. It was awesome

[@maliksamarijones9304]

John danaher's dome is looking extra shiny today - he must have just worn his head shaving rash guard

[@binaryglitch64]

Polaris Pro Grappling is my favorite BJJ promotion, but Flo Grappling is good too.

[@absoluteunit30]

If these guys fought it would look like a giant thumb wrestling match.

[@MCJOHNSON95]

The pin in wrestling is pretty damn definitive. You are being held down against your will.

[@jaimepeak1406]

This guy looks like Bas Rutten mixed with Lex Friedman

[@Muaykhao187]

Omfg 😂

[@johnnoon9498]

Jui-jitsu is an amazing skill but a difficult watch.

[@James_Cy]

When guys go on their back right away its just ridiculous. The attacks and movements are too slow, it's not high paced like wrestling or explosive like Judo. It's just a niche art for a niche audience.

[@vlada]

My highschool son has followed his older brothers path in judo-sambo-bjj so has been grappling since he was in diapers. He tried looking for that G.Ryan sweep of Bucheca (or Garcia vs Popovich for you vets) at ADCC that his brother showed him and came across the whole 30mins fight on yt. Even thought he ran it at 2X speed, he said he was never so bored on a computer screen in his life. I've heard that from both young and old who love to roll for quite some time. I don't think I've ever heard this from people who do other sports.

[@Morganwmahan]

No submissions should be a no contest.

[@mohammedammarrizvi2662]

I bet I would sub John Danaher without a rash guard in a jiujitsu match😂, I think that's where his power lies🤓

[@jotairpontes]

It's a culture thing, but you can help that with a simple step: find a way to reward the ones who get submissions, the ones pushing for submissions. That's the best way. That's why the Abu Dhabi first 5 minutes failed. It's very well known and used in many areas, even whe designing video games, if you want the player to do something, you don't punish them for doing the other thing, but you reward them for doing what you want. That's how you create the flow towards your intention without frustration.

[@modelingsuccesssuccessfull2607]

Longer JRE clips on YT please

[@1stblackpm]

Just Go Over

[@basiktv5053]

@@1stblackpm no

[@ridzigaudie1]

The true beginning in what we today watch as No Gi, was back in 70' in copacabana beach where guys traing and sometimes fight on beach with boardshors and jerseys , used for surfing purposes on that time as My father used to say. I personnaly witnessed in late 80 and 90s lots of "nogi! at surfing spots in Rio.Congrats Amazing inteview very interesting.Congrats Gordon absolute dominace performance showing us how to do it,inside the mats.

[@DT-bp2om]

I'm that guy you're talking about, I know next to nothing about grappling, but that channel is excellent. 👍

[@pleasantdonovan]

I love SUG! Chael does really well at being a force in the industry

[@nicholasjames4789]

Mr Danaher, Thanks for what you have done for the sport!

[@thebcrew8942]

The continued exposure of BJJ will work to elevate the sport in a way similar to what’s happened in surfing over the last 20 years.

[@MarkMugen]

The John Danaher Rashguard Experience

[@tony16991]

Danaher's voice makes my soul shrink and escape my body.

[@DM-sy4hg]

The problem with putting these "elite grapplers" together? All they do is sit guard and attack leg locks. As someone that LOVE BJJ and trains often, I don't care how "elite" the competitors are, it is BOOOORING to watch two guys attack legs for 10 minutes. I want to see TAKEDOWNS, ground strikes, guard passing, etc. If you somehow force competitors to do TDs and add strikes on the ground, you will save BJJ as martial art, IMO.

[@RiccardoAmmendoliaBJJ]

Yeah

[@adrianlagrange4571]

You mean combat bjj ?

[@melvel2354]

I totally agree. If they add more than won't it be MMA and other styles?

[@DM-sy4hg]

@@melvel2354 no. It would be real BJJ.

[@andresgreene4913]

One of the good things about the way points are usually assigned is that they reward positions that are useful outside of a sport grappling context.

[@mannygallegos775]

There’s nothing better than JRE for breakfast!

[@bloatedsodium7301]

How about morning head?

[@ThePatriotParadox]

Can listen to this guy talk about martial arts forever

[@georgimihalkov4781]

This dude looks and sounds like a villain from an Austin Powers movie.

[@ivanraimi5524]

Rashguard is a universal type of clothes, very practical

[@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677]

Whether you admit it or not grappling is very homoerotic 😍

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[@pedrorendeiro1585]

@@pacoraban513 Well, that took a turn.

[@johnqpublic2718]

Part of why I’ve never tried to learn it.

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[@kaushalrabadia1827]

Does anyone else feel like the timing is perfect for Gina Carano to come on the podcast?

[@957543]

Only "problem" with submission is done a bunch of guys gotta let their arms break or have a bunch of wrong stoppages

[@newgunguy4176]

Knowing when to tap is part of the skillset.

[@ChickenJoe12]

Ooof that wide shot makes it look like two guys in a conference room meeting

[@sp1d3r7]

I used to LOVE JRE on KZbin, if only Spotify could be made more Palatable!!! I get the money Joe but mate you've become the iTunes to Spotify...ironic as it gets

[@mikeelzinga4176]

Hey everyone. Hopefully Memorial Day Went Well for you and your family.

[@alexspareone3872]

I propose Joe do a feature on HEMA fighting. I know I am repeaing myself. But I would love to get his angle on it.

[@thedevilluis]

This one was awesome, BJJ is amazing.

[@Rajarshi_X]

Danaher still wearing that rashguard since last time he was on jre. Can't get enough of this guy.

[@i3enj462]

As a BJJ guy I gotta say that I'd love a UFC style organisation for pure BJJ/grappling. Looks like Flow is tryna get there.

[@i3enj462]

@Johnny G What

[@TheDomLouis]

6:42 There's a simple ruleset that would force JJ athletes to go for submissions. Submission Only matches and if after 10 or 20 mins no one gets a submission, you both lose and don't move onto the next round. No judges decision. Submit or you're out on your arse!! Finals have no time limit, so someone has to tap or admit defeat.

[@WeniesOfws]

Love the show topics amazing collaboration

[@Priceluked]

Only a jiujitsu villain like Danaher can say "Mhmyess" instead of yes.

[@AguyR1401]

More like: "mmMhyyyyyreusrs"

[@baileyayyy5085]

I like to imagine he gained his bjj skills in a dark pact where he had to sacrifice the ability to wear anything besides a rash guard in exchange for the abilities

[@cwoehl763]

John Danaher meets Dohn Janaher.

[@brazilianpodcastsubtitled3139]

John Danaher is a legend!

[@alexilies2850]

well..Fedor also had a special way of fighting. Going all out..:) Yeah. Legends..

[@ArcadeGreg]

JD summoning his inner Sensei Kreese...Finish him!!!

[@vinvincible8]

Medical Science has yet to discover a way to surgically remove the rash guard from John Danaher

[@lexusmexicano]

Also it would encourage submissions to be rewarded for a submission. No one wants to exert themselves for 5 mins not to be rewarded only to find themselves exhausting for when the actual match starts.

[@m_js5709]

You need a brand not just a sport. The NFL, NBA, UFC, EPL, UEFA etc they all have a brand. The closest thing for grappling is like ADCC or at one point metamoris & that honestly isnt good enough.

[@rokkvi1]

You can certainly incentivize winning by submission by having round robin tournaments where you go against all the opponents and only get points for submissions. That however, eliminates the concept of the supermatch, that big match between the two top grapplers to settle it all.

[@feandin]

Sub-only are definitely the best tournaments.

[@kloppskop4149]

half agree with this, culture is a big part but the other part is incentives. fighters want to win, make money and get fame . have create incentives to reward fighters who always try for the submission. UFC performance bonuses are a good example, thanks Tony.

[@josephgagaridis9504]

This guys always ready for a match

[@johnbabits9663]

Gotta get *DEVON LARRATT* and/or *MICHAEL TODD* on the podcast. Armwrestling is growing like crazy right now and michael todd is right in your backyard

[@davidbell4277]

I don't know if Joe or someone who reps Joe reads these comments BUT he needs to bring back on Krystal and Saagar. I know he supports and watches them. I think since they left the Hill they probably need some more exposure and Joe would be perfect for that.

[@haphazard4944]

Love this podcast, but yo! I think It's kind BS how I pay for Spotify, but still have to watch a bunch of unskippable ads!

[@4apollo788]

Learn the lessons from Judo, John, as you work to make Jiu-Jitsu more palatable to watch. And don't make the mistakes Judo made. Judo, as originally practiced by its founder, the Jiu-Jitsu master Dr. Kano Jigoro, and for many decades after, was as fine a martial art as you'll find, and would give modern Jiu-Jitsu a run for its money. The same cannot be said for the state of present-day Judo. In its pursuit to make Judo more palatable to watch - more spectator friendly - the Kodokan changed it. Slowly, gradually over the decades. The many small changes over the years added up and eroded the essential core strength of Judo. Because it became more spectator focused, deviating from its original priority of being focused on the practitioner. That resulted in Judo losing or minimizing techniques that are invaluable in a combat situation. Judo, as practiced today, is primarily geared to be spectator sport, rather than a combat sport designed to equip its practitioners with the best it can offer. So, one example, modern Judo has become more focused on the flashy standing techniques. The throws that impress spectators. And it downplays the newaza ground techniques, because that is slow and undynamic - boring for spectators. The Kodokan had decided it wanted to pursue massive growth and was prepared to change the sport of Judo to maximize its appeal to the growing audience of combat sport neophytes. As a result, by the time BJJ came along in the 90s, Judo practitioners were typically sorely undertrained in ground techniques compared to BJJ practitioners. And BJJ ate Judo's lunch. It didn't have to be that way though. Judo shares the same core Jiu-Jitsu heritage as BJJ. But the Kodokan had taken Judo down a different path, path that left its practitioners undertrained in some of the less-flashy, but essential, combat techniques. This approach made Judo a huge international phenomenon and fueled its growth for a number of decades. It even got Judo accepted as an Olympic sport, which Kodokan viewed as one of its crowning achievements. But ultimately it became a victim of its own success. And when a rival came along that had remained true to the core combat principles, it ultimately eclipsed Judo, replacing it as the global grappling art phenomenon, as we can see from the relative popularities of Jiu-Jitsu and Judo today.

[@chloealena2306]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!!