John Deere 1025R Vs. Kubota BX!! Round #1 of 8

[@meadowviewlawncarellc8079]

Even though I’m above the sub compact tractor market, I think this is a really great review of both machines. It is full of useful information from someone other then a dealer. I think it will definitely help someone in the market for a machine. Well done Tim.

[@kc8bdr]

I could not agree more.

[@adventurerhoades]

I am brand new to tractors. I got the 2019 massey 1735M. I have just over 100hrs on it. DId some food plots ,brush hogging, snow removal. So far really like it. Tim does amazing job with these reviews. Ive only done a few videos with the tractor. Its a lot of work but its been fun

[@adventurerhoades]

@@donaldkrause2619 what does this mean?

[@1001011100101001]

@@adventurerhoades He means that he needs/uses a different class of tractor. Bigger.

[@junkworks1]

@@1001011100101001 i think he meant it as a double entendre. His tractor and himself....... jk

[@curtwhite876]

I spent four hours on my tractor volunteering at my kid's school yesterday. I whistled and hummed your tune nearly the whole time. Awesome.

[@jeffsa7973]

Finally, a review that is not an advertisement and honest facts. Thank you.

[@greensteel9757]

Honest facts.... help your own country and not out source tractors. What happens when something breaks better to buy a better supplier that has more parts on hand... “johndeere”

[@BigGary79]

This is going to be a very useful series. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

[@bdlvn5949]

I own a 2018 Kubota BX 23S and do use the 3 point a lot. I believe a 23S is the same as a 2680 except it comes with factory installed loader and backhoe. If you look closely there are two stops for the 3 point lift that can be adjusted by reaching under the fender. They can be used to stop up or down, also can be used to hold lift lever in down position to float in the down position. Great for using tiller, blade, etc. At least, that's how my BX 23S works. Best video I've seen on these two machines. Good job.

[@beunbad]

Those stops u deer the fender where the rear wheel is or accessed at the three point hitch? Looking at two similar set up machines. Have a Kubota dealer in town and JD is roughly 15 or 20 minutes away.

[@davidjohns9816]

Glad to see someone comparing two tractors of the same year. Usually when you see Kubota and John Deere comparisons they are not comparing the same model year. Making one look far better than the other. Keep up the good work!

[@halsnyder296]

I bought a tractor a little over a year ago. I had intended to buy a John Deere, hadn’t even thought about Kubota. While our house was being built I asked all the machinery operators their opinions. They all told me either a Kubota or a Deere but they cautioned me the Deere dealer wasn’t good. I started calling the parts departments to find out availability of common “breakage” parts. In almost every case one dealer had the parts in stock, the other could have it in in a week or so. The end result, based on dealer support, was I bought a Kubota L4701. It’s been a good machine, and when I snapped a brush hog blade I had a new set later that day. So... evaluate your dealers!

[@randywhelan8944]

As the owner of multiple Kubota units from BX series all the way through L series and even the MX series each individual tractor has its certain uses . until buying my first John Deere last year we have now found that the largest and most notable difference between kubota and John deer is the #1 weight john deer, HEAVIER #2 hydraulic system capability stronger as shown at the END of the video, personally I find myself usually running for a John deer FIRST but if the ground is WET well then, go grab the kubota because I can usually get into the job SITE and out of the job SITE with very little problems, just my personal experience, love them both, GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST

[@kevinsheddrick2757]

Being a new 1025r owner, this series has been a wealth of information on the fine details of my tractor and how to use and adjust things. Great! “The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.” Ps 18:15

[@michaelknulle6924]

Well done tim by far the best test i ve seen on you tube.carry on that way .have a nice week .

[@TallTexasGMan]

It looks like you may have fairly close to the same tire treads. Is the BX fluid filled? I would be curious to see some traction tests performed.

[@shawnklemm1532]

Just straight shooting, honest information, no b.s. Great job and looking forward to more. Thanks Tim.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

thanks for watching, Shawn!

[@derek7837]

I'm interested in your thoughts on kubotas treadle pedal vs Deeres hydro pedals

[@andysworld2188]

When it comes to the peddles it's a matter of preference. There is a small advantage to the treadle peddle when you are turned around looking behind you. It's easier to switch back and forth from forward to backward with a treadle peddle. No matter which one you get you will get used to it quick.

[@_P0tat07_]

Yes! I hate the treadle pedal regardless of machine or brand. I much prefer John Deere’s hydro pedals.

[@NukePooch1]

I'd like to hear about this as well. I know he's used to the Deere, but how easy is it to 'get used to' the Kubota?

[@_P0tat07_]

N Pooch getting used to how it works isn’t the problem. In my opinion at least. That problem for me lies in that it’s uncomfortable to roll your ankle forward and backward, as opposed to rocking on the heel of your foot to press a pedal.

[@SledgeHammer43]

I have operated equipment with both a treadle pedal. I personally do not like a treadle pedal. They are hard on the ankle especially when wearing a boot.

[@dankrebs176]

I have a 1023 sub-compact with a rototiller and i find if you move the centre turnbuckle in so the tiller is angled toward the tractor, it digs in as far as the three point will allow it ...10 inches plus.

[@jaybee2344]

I want know the engine noise levels. The JD rattles to much at idle as the KB just purs.

[@tuffram2165]

Kubota diesel is significantly quieter than the yanmar. Both are great engines but you see way more kubota diesel engines in other brand equipment than just about any other manufacturer.

[@treyn3655]

Great series! I'm in the market and I can't tell you how helpful this has been. Thanks so much for all the time and work you both gave to it.

[@johntomko7031]

The three point hitch lower arms, on the Kubota , can be moved outward, to remove the quick hitch, by removing one of the pins at the end of the lower arms. The mower deck should be locked in the up position when using the three point hitch. I don't think you can go wrong with either tractor. I always look forward to your videos .

[@danredder3423]

Thanks for the video, I have been trying to research these too myself but also have found very one sided arguments. I have found your views very helpful. One question I have is seat operation room, I am almost 7 foot tall so control postion and spacing for my legs and body is crucial, along with placment of controls for ease of operation. Thank you again and have a great day.

[@denisewilson8367]

I love the way you were honest about each tractor and then adding your opinion lastly. Thank you for the honest review. Looking forward to more.

[@stevepoore2410]

Great job Tim! In 2006 I bought a Deere 2305 and it is setup like the Kubota, stabilizers on the inside and no (set spots) on the lift arms controls. Kubota, Cub Cadet, New Holland and Deere were all the same price. No Regrets on buying the Deere it has done me well. I would like to upgrade to the 1 series but the price keeps me from doing so and there is nothing wrong with the 2305. Thanks for the videos!

[@SteelSurgeon]

I am pretty stingy with likes on youtube. You sir, have earned one from me today. Keep up the good work and I cant wait to watch this series. I own a 1025r mostly because I got it for a good price. Most videos I have watched, no matter how honest they say they are going to be, usually is pretty biased. You did a great job being up front with details in this first video of the series.

[@Budd56]

I agree

[@williambrown218]

I've seen all I needed to know by watching all your previous videos. Watching what you've been able to accomplish with Johnnie is what convinced me to pull the trigger 2 months ago and get a 1025 of my own. Very happy with the decision. I enjoy watching and learning from all your adventures. Keep up the good work.

[@babranson1]

Great review! I love the objectivity of the videos. It is easy yo see bias where they are trying to sell you something. I grew up on JD 820 and 830 and Ford 8N. I owned a JD 4620 (135 hp) and 4850, with 10,000 hrs it still would dyno 216 peak and 196 continuous. Great tractors. I have retired and now own a Kubota B 3350 and Grand L5740. Both cab tractors. I love the hi low range lever on the column of the 5740. I use it every time I get in the tractor.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

Hey Tim and Christy, I just bought a 2018 1025r. Thanks for all your content, it certainly helped my decision. That said, I was a bit biased from the onset, since I worked on John Deere equipment for years at a golf course. I love my tractor, and her capability continues to impress me. God bless!

[@greatmoose17]

I’ve owned John Deere’s for 35 years and love my dealer. But I bought a Kubota BX this month after spending months doing research. My three critical points are dealer, price and equipment. And it killed me to switch dealers, but price and equipment won out. Both will get the job done and you can’t go wrong with either.

[@kd6836]

greatmoose17 I’ve had a 1025 and I have a 2011 Kubota 3300. Zero issues with the Kubota. I sold the John Deere after constant replacement of the pins and other hardware on the drive over deck. Cheap metal.

[@verteup]

But the 1 series JD walks all over the Kubota in every...single...metric. and Tim hasn't had any issues at all.

[@johnathancrotzer5491]

nothing is perfect but you seem happy with your equipment and that's all that matters

[@mpwoodworks3138]

I always learn something new watching your videos. I have a JD 3320. The right front tire goes flat about once a week. What is your recommendation regarding foam or rubber filled front tires?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Just put tireject in it. Worked for me. Or, take it to a local auto tire shop. Most will fix for free.

[@curvinleinbach]

You are correct on the 3 point analysis. I do rest my hand on the lever on my GC2300 keeping it just over center in the lowered position while tilling. And Kubota would do well to add an inch or two of arm length. My equipment doesn't fit well on a BX because of pto length and I also drag my feet on shortening shafts to fit someone else's tractor.

[@tractorboy31]

Thats probably how they get the wieght increase vs JD

[@barelystablefarm7151]

I think it’s hilarious you kept the mower deck on and cited the reason as “it’s a pain to remove”. It’s the exact reason why I opted for the Deere as it was huge for me. Great vid!

[@matheweszenyi1978]

One of the biggest reasons I do wish I owned a Deere, the mid mount. That said, sales and support at Pape was arrogant and dismissive. Make sure you take that into account when making a purchasing decision. PTI (Pacific Tractor and Implement) a local dealer is why I own a BX and not a Deere. They have always treated a little guy like me with respect and first class service.

[@danbrown4205]

Nice to see an honest review. Thanks. I'm a Kubota BX23S owner, but I don't have a bias one way or the other. My choice came down to the dealer and which one treated me the best. Kubota won. Dealer location wasn't an issue since the Deere and Kubota dealers are across the street from each other. I thought the lack of position control would be a big negative when selecting the BX. After some thought I realized that the vast majority of 3 point work on a subcompact the hitch is either fully up or down. Then came the problem with the hitch not floating back down due to terrain changes. By opening up the flow valve and riding the lever to compensate for the terrain, the implement stays engaged. Sounds like a lot to do, but it quickly becomes second nature. There are so many excellent tractor brands available it's hard to go wrong. The one thing that I see way too often is people chasing specs. To those that say "My tractor can lift more than yours", yet will never come anywhere close to pushing the tractor to it's limits, what's the point? Buy the tractor that fits your needs, is within your budget, and if you can find a dealer that is honest and treats you well...you are in good shape.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good comment!

[@youngscott62]

There is a knob at the base of the seat that controls how fast the mower deck/3 point lift arms go down. For the tilling test you may need to open the valve/knob so it can float faster. I have run into this while grading out potholes with a rear blade. Great video!

[@m1lkman1974]

I REALLY enjoyed your unbiased compariason. So refreshing!! Thank you Tim!

[@gregnewlin1074]

Hi Tim, just a quick question. Can you give us a rough measurement from the lift pin to the attachment pin. That would also be a big reason for the lift disparity between the two.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

what is the 'attachment pin'?

[@gregnewlin1074]

@@TractorTimewithTim you have answered in your follow up video. The attachment point of the lift link pin. Thanks for the response. Great work on the videos.

[@robertbohannan2255]

I feel one important issue you missed is that on the Kubota the mmm will lock out in the top position so as not to raise and lower every time you move the 3point hitch. Keeps in up out of the way. Very good review. Thanks Tim.

[@flick22601]

It will also lock in the top position on the JD 1025R but it takes less than a minute to take the Deere deck off. Think Deere will definitely win that round.

[@rodk.6878]

As with the tractors themselves, everyone has a different agenda and different approaches of doing things. So I'm not a big review person, but I do like seeing how different engineers think about the same task. As always great work guys.....

[@stedder8436]

Hey Tim. I’m sure it’s in your plans, but you should also mention price of the two units. Just another thing to compare. Have a great day.

[@cashxx]

They were about the same for me in my area at around 22k. The Kubota was a little more because of their warranty they force you into and I believe it was around $1400 or so. JD was pennies on the dollar, but don't think it is as good as the Kubota one. I think JD's was around $350 or so.

[@kennyluvspizzaent947]

stedder8436 i find the deere to be about 1000-1500 more

[@niederbayerDominic]

cashxx interesting just bought here a bx 2380 with frontloader for quite below 17k € the whole package with tiller, fail mower, snow shield with front hydraulic and grasland harrow and change the lower link eye with a normal euro catch hook... all for 23k € and 5 year warranty is included...

[@hammondtractor]

We sell both and they are very similar in price with just a loader your around 17k

[@cashxx]

@@niederbayerDominic Sorry, I was comparing 2018 models of the 1025r and BX23s with backhoes when I was looking. They were about the same price.

[@jefftrumpour8966]

Round #1 was exactly what I was hoping for - a fair comparison of important things between the 2 tractors. The 3 point hitch weight comparison was very interesting and answers a question that I was wondering about my own BX2680, so thank you. Can't wait for the next round!

[@richpicone7788]

Good job Tim. Look forward to the next! I guess we know who wins the loader capacity comparison.

[@kc8bdr]

I agree, but it looks like the Deere struggled a bit to do so. I am hoping Tim comments about that in an upcoming video.

[@titan_3634]

On my kubota 3pt, I placed spring bar retaining clips in the clevis (shackle) connecting the turnbuckles to the lower arms. So when I want to change attachments I can pull the pins to quickly spread the lower arms.

[@bobteter4300]

I'm a Kubota guy, but I thought it was a very good review. I would be interested in knowing more about the Center of Gravity in relation to the rear tires; i.e., I would be interested in which is less likely to tip over an a grade. (It would be a math excerise, not a demonstration!). If they both had mid mount mowers attached that would ever be better! Thanks again and keep it up!

[@rickysafer2895]

In the hill country here in central Texas a wider wheel base really helps out on the slopes and hills. I run a Yanmar 424 and it really has performed good for what I have used it for.

[@nerdyeevideos1879]

The deer is taller and the operator sits higher. My best guess is it would be a wash on stability...

[@jagx234]

A non dealer comparison with real world examples?! Yes!

[@jeremyk4924]

Finally a good comparison! Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hey Jeremy. There are 11 episodes total to this comparison series. Lots of details and examples. Hope you get a chance to see them all.

[@JerichoRally]

wow...and that surprise ending. hopefully that will make it into subsequent episodes of this comparison. Thanks for doing this!

[@doct0rnic]

Watching you rototill, is it possible that the draft control is automatic? When you drove up on the turf it looked and sounded like the hitch lowered itself slightly to adjust itself to the ground. Nice comparison overall, there are too many videos out there nitpicking lever height and plastic vs metal. I am in the market and not sure which one to get.

[@batterpm11]

And this is why I love TTWT.

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

One of the most objective reviews I've ever seen on You Tube. Great job Tim.

[@joewickman6581]

Thanks. I learned quite a bit by watching. I’ve got a BX, but I truly appreciate the objective comparisons. I’m really looking forward to what other contrasts you discover in the next episodes in this series!

[@beunbad]

How do you like the BX ? I’m looking at a used 1025 and a BX similarly equipped and priced

[@realpdm]

Sorry if someone already mentioned it, but the knob right below the seat on the BX will keep the mower deck from lowering with the 3pt hitch. Turn it to the TOP marking and it will lock the mower deck all the way up. Even if you have the deck removed, it should be set to TOP position when using 3PT attachments. Fun to see you using my tractor (I have BX23S).

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I had that knob set as high as possible.

[@realpdm]

Interesting! It seemed like the deck was going down with the tiller. When I first got my BX23S I had a really really really hard time getting the knob to turn to TOP. Apparently I was turning it the wrong direction.

[@m2autoworks]

lock the mower deck up with the mower height control. that should help keep it out of the way on the kubota

[@nickc3207]

Thank you so much for doing this. I have been researching compact tractors for about 5 months with the intention to buy spring 2020. You hit the nail on the head with most reviews being so biased and focused on silly things. You are probably planning to look at these items but I would love to see comparisons on cockpit controls and usability. Also scheduled maintenance and how easy or hard it is on each to preform service. Thanks again for the effort you are putting into this.

[@1STGeneral]

Did you buy a new machine and if so which one also would you make the same purchase again?

[@jimmy55301]

When I started looking for a compact tractor, I started with the BX. I ended up getting a B2650, and here's why: loader lift capacity, overall weight, 3-point hitch features, and ground clearance. The weight and loader capacity are obviously larger for the larger tractor. I understand the B2650 compares more closely to the Deere 3000 series. But I didn't like the BX not having position control on the 3-point hitch. My B2650 has position control, extendable links, and "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers (on the inside), all of which works very well. (Maybe the BX now has optional "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers?? That would be a great improvement.) The telescoping flat bar stabilizers have holes that you put a pin through to lock it at a certain length. They are easy to pull the pin and change the length. And there are enough holes to give a variety of usable lengths, including float positions.

[@curtmurrow5010]

This was an awesome review, very well done Tim! I could not be happier with our John Deere 1025r, it's used frequently for many challenging tasks and I never have any issues whatsoever. Removing the mower deck and reinstalling it is a regular task and I have not experienced any complications with alignment. Our neighbor down the road has a Kubota series that is the larger version and it works great as well. For our property and our needs we love our 1025R! Our terrain is very uneven and rough with many steep slopes. Negotiating the slopes is a must while mowing our pasture but I have never felt at risk of tipping in the steep areas. Epic tractor!

[@salmonhunter7414]

It all comes down to cost and how close your dealer is.

[@imbthree]

Thanks for putting in the work! We appreciate you bud, keep up the great videos!

[@jaysom2240]

for being comparable tractors, the kobota looks like a toy next to the 120R. Good review Tim. Keep up the good work!

[@TheAussieincalgary]

I am looking at both of these machines, as well as the Mahindra emax22. Very good comparioson and always enjoy your videos. On Vancouver Island we have 3 acres with lots of slope, uneven ground and forest. 1023e/1025r have more ground clearance than the 2680, and even less on the Kioti (oil filter is only a few inches off the ground nad would be easily damaged). I am curious about stability between the JD and Kubota. Expect the JD to be better with wider track, but does being a taller machine negate that advantage or not? May the Lord continue to bless you.

[@jarretzendt3527]

Test this

[@shawnengstrom3906]

I've been running a bx2370 for 6 years now mostly for snow removal with blower and broom. It's a great tractor, but the front quick hitch is sub par to the Deere and so are the attachments. I would choose the JD over the Kubota next time around.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wish I had access to the BX front quick hitch and attachments!

[@CoalChrome]

what we always do (granted I'm referring to a pair of 55 horse Mahindras) is we put the implement on first, raise it just off of the ground, then center it and adjust the sway bars, we always make sure to put the end of the arms to the inside of the pins as it gives us more lift height.

[@MessicksEquip]

Nice job Tim. The only thing I saw that you did wrong there was not using the 'top' position on the kubota mower deck. It'll have double the clearance of the Deere mower, so generally you can do more things without taking it off. ... Have fun with your plastic, aluminum, yanmar tractor 😀

[@ritterjon]

Come on now Neil, you’re right about the height position control but the “plastic, aluminum Yanmar” comment was just mean. 😁 Keep on tractoring!

[@MessicksEquip]

@@ritterjon if Tim gets a jab we do too 😀

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hey Neil! That knob wouldn't adjust to the 'top' position. I had to set it at the next to top position. Any tricks to make this work? I'll fiddle with it again.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I now see why they don't put many lights on those orange tractors. They almost glow in the dark!

[@MessicksEquip]

@@TractorTimewithTim take the deck to the top. I think it may only go in clockwise or counter. Those knobs sometimes don't turn the easiest. You should be able to get it up against the frame. If it's not adjusted properly, it's possible it's not going high enough.

[@micahprice2807]

I grew up pulling a 6ft disk and a two-row planter on my grandfather's 40 horse JD 2040. We ran it until a fire destroyed the electrical system on the tractor and we parked it... Sadness... great review!

[@stevealexander8010]

8:15 - buy a $2 spring pin to replace one cottered-pin, and they you have no turnbuckle issue on the K'.

[@thadhaley7324]

Next best thing to me actually test driving both!!! Great video and cant wait for the rest.

[@swalesutube]

Tim, you missed something VERY important. The Deere 1025r 3 point arms are Reversible. They provide different geometry depending on how you mount them. One way gives you higher lift. Please reverse them and show the viewers how it changes things... for better or worse. Thanks for the work you do,

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good point. I knew that, but forgot.

[@bradshaw106]

I have had my 1023 for 4 years and never new that! Can’t wait to go out in the garage tomorrow morning and check it out

[@beunbad]

When you say higher lift did you mean reversing them gives you a higher weight or height?

[@germainwoods2395]

Hi, I have a question. I'm building a shed 12 by 24, and right in the middle of the pad there's a giant 31 inch ash tree stump that I cut down last year. Do you think a kabota BX25 will take this stump out It's handy to rent. I also don't want to spend all day. There's also a Trex 1.8 ton looks kinda mean? But I like the loader on the Kabota to finish the pad. I do have lots of experience on this equipment BUT bigger! Thanks

[@andysworld2188]

Tim, for the hydraulic PSI test the BX is rated to be at max pressure of 2000psi. Ive heard from factory its set between 1925 & 1950. When people use shims they usually raise it to 1975 to 1985psi range and see a noticeable difference.

[@jocmarrs6070]

1)Weight of each tractor - ( maybe how much ballast you can put in each and what maximum effective weight can be reached) 2)Power lost at pto - (maybe how fast can each tractor complete a task under load) 3) consistency in power under load - (for example if you were to till in soft dirt then hit sod or top soil, how do the tractors handle or react, or mowing grass/ brush hogging going from short/ thin to long/ thick do the tractors bog out and slow down etc.) Thank you for any consideration

[@zebmueller290]

Vary good video Tim. Look forward to the rest of these. I definitely have to agree that it’s vary fusterating to find a good comparison video between them.

[@tacticalrabbit308]

How does it stack up with the backhoe attachment

[@davidjohns9816]

That would be great comparison also. However you would need the kubota bx23s for that test.

[@matthewjames9167]

Tim, even though I bought the 1025r, went in to buying a tractor with an open mind. I had a Cub Cadet 5234d before it and loved it. Got a great deal used. But the decision was down to these 2 and the thing that made my decision was I know someone who works at the dealer HQ. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Again I feel like I got a great deal on a new tractor. Thanks and keep it up.

[@tomf9928]

Northern seclusion

[@KevinCoop1]

Tim, I have a BX2360. Did you set the mower deck height to top when tilling? I'm interested to know the differences of pto running. BX has three positions, but don't know how greenies does it. When I bought my BX, with front bucket and mower deck, there was about $100 difference. I just looked both of them up. Base tractors with 60" mower, Greene wins! Add the front loader, orange wins. I like your head to head. It's REAL information, not just what the dealer thinks is better. I was shocked orange lifted higher and more! Respectfully, Kevin

[@xjfo]

Thanks for the review Tim. I happen to own the BX23S but I would be equally happy with a 1025R. I agree with your assessment. The 3 point height adjustment would be a nice feature and I wish I had had it when I was using my box blade on the driveway. I have since paved my driveway so its not much of an issue anymore. I would also love the JD drive over deck. While my Kubota deck is not that hard to take on and off I only do it when I have to. I chose the Kubota because my neighbor has one and I was able to watch him and ask lots of questions. I have both a John Deere dealer and a Kubota dealer about equal distances apart, both being less than 10 miles away. My John Deere dealer is fine but I enjoy working with the guys at the Kubota dealer more. I always enjoy watching your videos and seeing the differences between the various tractors you own and use. Thanks for the honest review. Its refreshing.

[@bete1588]

Hello Mr. Tim . Nice video over the tractors . I am a farmer in north west Germany 8km from Emden. We ride 6 john deere from 42 to 170 hp . The tractors are from 1972 to 2008 . John Deere is a great global Player .but the engeneers from john deere learn never .that growing point from the top link on the tractor must a few inches more nearly to the axle !!! And the growing point must a few inches higher .. In germany we ride since the tractors came on the farms .the most machines in 3point hitch . On the old fendt .old deutz .old international tractors is it no problem to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . On our john 2040 from 1986 with sg 2 was is often a catastrophe to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . The lift high was often too low . Nice greatings from North West Germany from Bert !!!

[@ohiovalleypondandexcavatio2114]

Another great video Tim. I’ve actually thought about this a lot because I’m starting to have a lot of issues with my 2038r. The main issues I’m having is as follows, the stand of the loader has been replaced twice the bolts keep breaking it keeps bending. The mid mount mower setting is going haywire now. The front loader loses pressure whenever you have a load on it and you can almost watch it settling to the ground. My Backhoe You Must keep raising the Boom or the backhoe just bounces all over the place. And I am told by my dealer all this is normal just keep the pin in to keep it locked. So the only other tractor around me is orange. But service is the key and I am not getting it from my dealer.

[@grantdeisig1360]

The end of the video doesn't surprise me at all... The curling power on the Deere is just superb for it's size. My brother has a BX25, and he and I can both tell that the Deere has better hydraulics on the loader when it comes to lifting stuff. However, the actual lifting cylinders struggled on both tractors to lift that load, but did you see how Tim was able to come in at a different angle and a slightly higher height to take advantage of the stronger curling function on the Deere? Well done video Tim, can't wait for more!

[@redporschekilla]

Tim, I’ve been following you since quite some time, your way of explaining things inspired me to buy my Johnny, also a 1025R. I’m not a brand jockey, but my JD shop is right around the corner, whereas a presence of Kubota shops takes me to much time to reach, hence I’ve got me a Johnny. Keep them review videos coming, you and your family are doing a marvelous job! On a side note, how about a review of an offset ditch mower! I’m in the market, but haven’t seen much in the InteeWeb about it, especially since I need to install a 3rd function for it. Yours truly, Volker

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

Tim what are your thoughts on tillers? I need a good one that ill be using for gardens and food plots

[@jpw1490]

The thing is if john deere did the test they would point out all the good things of the jd and the bad things of the kubota it would be the same if kubota did the test si its great that you are doing it

[@jerrysalgat3406]

Hi Tim . Very good video. I looked at a lot of tractors before I bought mine. Ended up between 4 brands John Deere, Kubota, kioti and Massey Ferguson. The John Deere and Massey Ferguson turned out to be the best for my needs. The Massey Ferguson was $6,ooo less in price. The only thing wrong was I wish I had bought a bigger one! Both good tractors.

[@122276mjs]

Owned a JD 1025R, was a decent tractor, wasn’t real impressed with quality. Just sold a Kubota B2601 and that was a good tractor. I’m on to a Kioti NX5510. So far so good

[@schoenys54]

I’ve been back and forth between these two companies. You’re insight is really appreciated! Thanks and well done!

[@MattKochelJJInaJayco]

I do like your tests and great views of both tractors. Great view and information 👍

[@cameronlewis5307]

Tim, dunno if it's a common flaw with the 1025r, but this past winter I've busted two of the threaded ends for the sway control turnbuckles. Something about having a backblade on there and the shock forces involved with pushing snow caused them to fatigue and shear eventually.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Did you have the sway bars tight?

[@cameronlewis5307]

Tractor Time with Tim fairly tight, I keep it adjusted to the quick hitch. Maybe an inch sway maximum at top position. They both failed within a week of each other as well, so it had a good hard 4 years of work before it happened. The replacement ends from GFP were also a different color, so I'm wondering if they changed something with the manufacturing process as well.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hmm. I've never broken one, and as you can tell, I'm not 'gentle' to the tractor.

[@bobhomestead7396]

Tim the reason why the tiller was lifting in the back was because you had the mower deck on. To solve that problem, Lift the mower deck all the way up, then set the mower height adjustment to top. this actually lets the three point hitch fall all by itself, Because the mower will stay at the top level were is will not interfere. Hope i explained that good. There also is an adjustment to limit the three point hitch, i will have to look that up when i have more time. Thanks for the video.

[@Formulabruce]

I would like to see this from the side, in action. What you say makes sense .

[@TheZipman34]

Tim i'm a very happy viewer of both of y'all. I don't want to nitpick your opinion of both of these tractors but they're not both the same tractors , I did a lot of research on this before I bought mine . To compare them both the same you would have to go up to a Kubota B2301 to compared to your John Deere 1025r the loader have the same hydraulic lift on the 3 point hitch , That's the one I ended up buying Kubota B2301. The Kubota BX tractor is equal to the John Deere 1023e series . I'm sorry but that is an equal comparison to both of these tractors and I'm not a fanboy for Kubota. I think they're both great tractors in the real world deal this is true comparisons . Y'all keep doing the good works. "Make sure to eat a hamburger for me GOD BLESS" Chad

[@phillipjohnryan868]

The only reason somone would love a mahindra is that it's new cheap or they haven't had a tractor before.

[@ericvanzeyl4483]

I am kind of wondering about the comparison. I am wondering if the B not the BX is what you should of compared to be more exact. Does deer even have a baby deer. The BX is more of a sub sub compact. Kind of like my LX is slightly smaller then the L.

[@hsmith3844]

One of the main reasons I own a Deere. My broken up body trying to mount mid-mower. Just the first reason.

[@kevinsullivan9049]

I understand, I'm in the same boat....

[@jasonantes9500]

@@kevinsullivan9049 Kubota has a drive over mmm for the BX. I've had back surgery and it is pretty easy to hookup and unhook.

[@Moss-fe3wy]

great video, you pointed out a con that is present in most sub compact tractors, that is a lack of position control, just about the only con I have with my 2009 Massey Ferguson GC2400, I sure it was a oversight but I see this routinely on videos posted by lot of folks that is improperly adjusted tilt angles on tillers, correct angle should be level to tilted forward at center of tine shaft to ground this enables tiller to perform as designed.

[@LaVidaPenaVega]

Thanks for making such great content! Wish i would have watched this before Bought my sub compact.. But i think it made the right choice! 1025R for the win!!! Keep the videos coming! God Bless!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If you got the 1025r, you made the right choice! Trust me. You’ve seen only one portion of this review.

[@wrodrigues08]

I had issues with my bx25 using a post hole digger. Some of the longer augers dragged on the ground. The longer 3 point hitch on the 1025r might fix that problem. I don’t know because I haven’t used post hole diggers on my JD.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don't think it will make much difference, honestly. The subcompacts just aren't quite big enough to handle a post hole digger. It can be done...but not well. Of course, there will be folks respond "I've dug 100 holes with mine..." I get it. I have dug several holes with mine too...but it doesn't do it comfortably.

[@85square]

i have a bx and i would buy one again i personally like it better than the deere but its not like im going to not like someone because they have a deere And a funny thing to note on my tiller the dealer flipped the pins to point inwards so you don't need to loosen the 3 point

[@richbutinski1367]

To keep the mower from dropping when you drop the 3 point, u have to have the mower height adjuster in the top lock position...

[@scottlagaly1389]

Early 2000’s New Holland TC18 (and I am sure other models) have the positioning lever for the three point.

[@JackAcid13]

Thanks for doing this series, I run a Kubota bx25d and that lack of position control is something I struggle with on every 3 point attachment. There is an adjustment for how quickly the implement drops, but that doesn't really fix that problem.

[@rexmundi8154]

The old school way to set a lower limit is to hook a chain that doesn’t let the arms drop below a certain point. I run a chain around the seat base on my very old Kubota to each of the arms on the 3 point hitch

[@tomcarter9816]

Excellent video as always Tim, I have a 1025r, but like all tractors as well. To me the most important aspect of owning a tractor, that is a sizable investment, is the longevity of the tractor & the dealership as it relates to service & repair. Pretty much any subcompact tractor will do the task of the average homeowner but down the road will the tractor continue to perform well, and can I count on the dealership to back me up😊

[@2aforteens517]

Thanks for the clear review. I live south of Indy now, but have lived in Lebanon in the past.

[@diamondd8840]

Don't buy a RK55 been waiting 4 MONTHS on a seal and oil return tube

[@RichSalmon2016]

Really appreciate your review. Can’t wait for the next video. 👍👍 any chance you can compare the belly mowers for mowing the lawn? I wonder if the weight difference of the tractors on the grass will have any affect since they both have R4 tires. Really appreciate the time, effort, and insight you put into all your videos.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

we'll compare the mowers. our grass is essentially dead (from dry weather), so not sure if we'll have much to say about weight difference. Won't be able to get 'springtime' type test.

[@stephensellers2453]

I have a Kubota diesel and it's got six hundred hours on it and it dropped a valve in the engine & Kubota won't make it good

[@kensalter9874]

Why not?

[@shauncarson8732]

Great Video ! Tim , I was wondering if you could do a video about how to clean your tractor after a really dirty job? Awsome videos and i really like my 1025R .