John Deere 8850 vs International 4786 Tractor

In this video I take viewers on a side by side comparison of the top end tractors offered by JOHN DEERE and INTERNATIONAL in the early 1980's. The video compares the V8 engine powered 370 hp JOHN DEERE 8850 to the 350 hp INTERNATIONAL 4786.
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[@william38022]

Probably couldn’t go wrong with either one of them mighty fine looking tractors

[@csongorfulop1928]

👌👏👍👍👍✊👍👍👍👍

[@nowhereman8903]

I love your videos dude. I love how you don't discriminate between the tractor brand names

[@stoneyblack6905]

Love them both! Thanks for sharing!! Stoney Australia 🇦🇺

[@johnnyholland8765]

While I bleed green I have always been drawn to the IH because I love the design of the Steigers. Spent time in 8630 and 8960 and 4366 so it is a toss up for me as I enjoyed them all. Nice of those folks to let you store your toys in their barn. Heck of a nice barn too. As far as horsepower it is amazing what the newer front wheel assist tractors have and what they will pull. They have in my opinion replaced a lot of the articulated machines just because of their versatility. But I still love them. They are big and boxy and loud and are a real mans tractor.

[@allenculbreth3133]

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[@dmc3742]

Nice lookin old John Deere G sitting there. I have one of those I restored several years ago. Nice running old tractor very distinctive sound. It will idle down slow enough to count the revolutions of the fly wheel.

[@jti2007]

I grew up on a farm in central Kansas where we owned several brands of tractors, including JD and IHC. My father often said that JD worked their design engineers overtime while IHC sent them home at noon on Friday. Your comments about the hydraulic valve placement are just one example of not quite getting the job done correctly. However my father often times cussed the "sexy" tin that made working on JD equipment more difficult than other brands. One example we experienced daily was our family owned both a 560 IHC and a 3020 JD. The 3020 was light years ahead of the 560 in drive-ability and creature comforts as well as the hydraulics and turning brakes. Thanks for your series on farm equipment of various styles and brands! Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year!

[@1300gprr]

We have a 4366 and love it for heavy tillage

[@pinesedgefarm1155]

Those are two awesome tractors you have, thanks for sharing.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching.

[@paulhudson8321]

Nice collection. I prefer the looks of the international. I remember when they came out they were very impressive and powerful Looking tractors. They are cheaper horsepower. The tractors 100 hp and under bring better money at farm auctions. Both your tractors have good rubber lots of tread. They’re very expensive to replace. Merry Christmas, from Ontario Canada.

[@bigtank2133]

I love the looks of internationals too

[@thetractorguyoldtractor3524]

Those are 2 great looking tractors , definitely above average condition , sharp looking units ! Myself operate a small grain farm in Manitoba , some years ago bought a 1976 IHC 4366 with 4,200 hours on the clock. , a year later bought a 1981 4586 , 5,400 hours , and like your 4886 , still has the original V8 motor in her. Basic tractors , duals on both , good floatation. And they fit in the budget.

[@thetractorguyoldtractor3524]

4786

[@tiger5551]

Boy if I could Afford those beasts. Thanks for the walk around Jason

[@bigtractorpower]

They are neat tractors. Thank you for being the first on the live stream.

[@gocubs3705]

I have been waiting for this since you bought your John Deere

[@bigtractorpower]

Hopefully I can follow up with a show down in the field.

[@garybarrett6581]

the treasure in this video is the AC combine in the back of the shed we have a 90 AC combine! l will be watchin!!!!

[@curtiscains8533]

Mr Jason, Please try to deal with those oil leaks on your International. It’s a beautiful machine and please roll it with pride. Your John Deere is also Beautiful…. Your tractor collection is wonderful to see

[@leonwhittington1773]

I know you are proud of those two tractors. I've always thought that if I won a big lottery, a few of those type tractors would be on my shopping list.

[@rodneycraig3118]

I worked for a neighbor in 1981 who had a new 8440. We put on a pair of side shields like your. they were not made by John Deere but I can not remember who made them. They helped to keep the fan from sucking in corn stalks in muddy condition. Bad Axe Michigan

[@mitchellnoll7402]

I wanted to say thank you for all the time that you put in making these videos Merry Christmas to you and all your family as well

[@steigerpower]

The JD 8850 has the sound guard cab which is very comfortable for long shifts and the controls far more refined compared to the 4786 budget built cab. Same with both tractor transmissions/drive trains the IH design is much simpler to work on as it's componentry in design as the JD is much more integrated and original and guess more expense to rebuild. If correct the 4786 list price was $79k (1981) compared to the JD $120k (1988) new price. Congratulations of your acquisition of two classic tractors.

[@1300gprr]

you actually stopped in New York and posted a picture of our 4366 on your Instagram page. I'd love to drive the 4786...they are a somewhat rare tractor...looks great!

[@nellsonstout7001]

@bigtractorpower filming opportunity...

[@megasnell]

My uncle had a 8850 that he uses for custom fertilizer operation. I drove it one time with a 16’ off set Krause disc. That was weird and fun. We had a very small farm and he had to use smaller tractor for other fertilizer application.

[@chadhumphreys7385]

Regular watcher from Saskatchewan, Canada. Love case traction king and the big buds, but grew up like a lot of people on JD 44 sound guard series. We had a 4440, then a 4560, plus the yard 3130

[@chadhumphreys7385]

Merry Christmas

[@hunsadersrockinranch]

WOW! Good stuff! I grew up with these tractors!

[@chuckwilliams8015]

I’m a big fan of your tractors. Red& Green, are my favorites. Thank you for all the videos.

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you. They are neat machines.

[@donaldthomas5852]

Watch your videos all the time. Glad to have the opportunity to see your tractors.. I would really like to see you come and film around the area I live not that far from you a couple of hrs drive. In and around Glendale Ky just 5 miles south of Elizabethtown , Western Kentucky Parkway brings you right here to Elizabethtown. Plenty of nice farms and you can see all different size of tractors being used .

[@bigtractorpower]

Thank you for watching. I film at the Rogers over your way. Great AGCO farm. I also filmed an Oliver 2255 tractor and Ford 642 combine in that area. I spotted a cool AC 4W-305 on a Great Plains planter in the area this spring I would like to film.

[@fordman2288]

literally living my dream of having my 2 favorite V8 diesel 4x4 tractors.

[@bigtractorpower]

They are a cool pair. When I got the 4786 I was already thinking an 8850 would be a nice one to sit with it. Little did I know a year later I would find a good deal on the Deere.

[@matthewsapp4159]

Those are some nice tractors there's nothing like '80s tractors.

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍👍

[@AJmx2702001]

Considering the IH was at the End of its run it was in major need of cabin updates and the 7788 was the typical IH Lipstick on a pig as they called it . If IH would have carried on with the Ideas from the Hough Division they would've had a better player . Steigers were a great tractor and IH should have offered it with the 817 Inline or the larger 1000 inch engine. IH never was really keen on the larger 4wds cause they had big plans to scale up the 2+2s to 400 horse cummins power

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

Thats sweet! I love the 8850! We had a 8650 and a 9300

[@jimmystrain883]

Nice looking tractors, I like them both

[@MrMan5014]

Those old IH V8’s would just scream!!

[@Andy-From-England]

Hi sorry missed your live stream...... im from England UK.... by the way When covid over they have a large agricultural show here in England a town called Harrogate, North Yorkshire

[@sheldonrobbins9301]

If you turn the center knob on the john deere steering wheel it will extend or retract. Don't know if you know that. You called it telescoping then showed the tilt.

[@mikescaffo4850]

Both good old beautiful power houses

[@bigtractorpower]

They are two great 80’s power houses.

[@johnwall6304]

Looking nice, in the late 90s I drove an 8650 with the kinze up grade really nice

[@davidstout5883]

2 cool tractors I would love to drive them for you while you flimed.

[@curtiscains8533]

Allis Chalmers and Minneapolis Moline had some interesting special features with convenience and power for the operator. I am deeply saddened how our Country has just continuously gone down in our farming economy and culture…..

[@robertschleyer6781]

Like those big IH tractors

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@marcelosag3443]

I always watch your excellent channel. Greetings from Argentina

[@corinilfarms8854]

I believe the Deere side screens were available in later years for the 8850.

[@bigtractorpower]

They are nice. I will have to look in the 1988 sales brochure to see if they are listed. Thank you for the info.

[@mikeyoung8126]

I love your tractors they are very nice I hope you and your family had a great Christmas and a happy new year

[@mrourcanada8964]

You’re lucky man you have a couple beautiful tractors are it was great seeing them working in the field this year

[@bigtractorpower]

I hope next spring I can put them in the field together. Lots of great V8 sound.

[@williamgreenway8958]

I guess the V-8 was in this model was the only issue ? Love me some green paint !Thanks for the walk around .

[@feedthecownow]

The engine side covers are factory on the 8850, the transmission is a synchronized transmission with a 2 speed in the clutch housing before the transmission

[@bigtractorpower]

👍👍

[@toro220d]

Jason love both of them u know my favorite 4786 but u can't go wrong with either one of them

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍👍

[@miguelcarter1949]

Obviously your not a farmer those screens around the batteries are a blessing Keep dust out or at least helps Love your equip and videos

[@bigtractorpower]

I like the enclosed boxes on the IH because they are eye level and easy to get too. The John Deere takes a bit of prying. They are both good tractors. Each one has some pluses in minuses. Thank you for watching.

[@michaeldouglas1243]

Great show from fulton county pa. South central pa farmland very rural. Love watching ur show

[@bigtractorpower]

They for watching. Pennsylvania is s great farming state.

[@peterbilt355]

You should try to get up to Crosby North Dakota to the Knudson farm the old man was making crab steer big tractors starting in the 60's. They were green up till I think the late 70's when it was sold and became yellow. I believe it was in the early 70's that the big tractors got side hill tilt controls. You should really go see

[@walterramey8302]

Always liked the operator friendly controls on the Deere and we don’t have any case IH dealers in our area so parts are harder to get in the Tuscaloosa Alabama area

[@nowhereman8903]

They are both beautiful tractors. I commend you on their condition.

[@bigtractorpower]

I am looking forward to you getting them out in the field this fall.

[@martingardener90]

Interesting to hear your wish list - sounds exactly like mine except mine is in 1/32 scale - still need a Stieger, Versatile and Allis. Got a County 1474 for Christmas. Some might be a bit hard to find, like Roadless, Matbro or Muir-Hill ! Have you ever seen a Muir-Hill in the States?

[@brucekoster9253]

As Toby Keith used to say....." a little less talk...& a lot more action'' (It's nice to hear about all the good & bad points....but nothing like seeing them in action.)

[@bigtractorpower]

You can see these tractors in action on the channel. Here is the 4786 working kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpXOqaOXrpKiiM0 and the 8850 work kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZinpIJmfstlZ9U

[@nowhereman8903]

I sat on a 1206 and a late model 4020 and 4320 and many 40 1 0

[@scruffy6151]

I missed the live strea, oh well can't win them all. I hope you had a great Christmas .

[@bigtractorpower]

Merry Christmas. It was a good day.

[@josephseverino674]

Great video, i like bolth, there's somthing about the look of the big dual wheel tractors, i like the international because of the red paint job,LOL.In the end especially a farmer thats in business ,i would think it's about the cost of maintenance.I never see these types of tractors in New Jersey.

[@tedwillett5652]

From Western NY, love your videos! 🚜

[@bigtractorpower]

Very cool. I grew up near Rochester.

[@andrewt248]

Interesting the difference in design aesthetic even though they are both relatively the same vintage. The JD looks a lot more modern to my eye, which I don't mean to imply superior.

[@SimonKL11]

You have two awesome tractors😁👍 thank you for sharing👍😉

[@bigtractorpower]

They are great machines to get out in the field.

[@SilverGleaner]

Yes you need an Allis 8550! I have an uncle that did some farming with a D21 but he's retired now. He bought it just because it was a D21 but he did use it a bit too and still has it.... and nice original paint!

[@HakanValdez]

Hello BTP, how are you doing...Have a nice family Christmas!!!.Both are great tractors, but John deere is "John deere and he is the best in the world. I greet you sincerely from Argentina...

[@johnpierce1251]

Merry christmas and a happy new year to you and all your family from clay new york

[@matthewschofield9330]

Hello Jason , I really like both of your tractors , thank you for filming them .You say you are not a farmer so I was wondering what do you do for a living ? And How much does it cost to keep a big V8 articulated tractor ? We don't have many of these tractors in the United kingdom , there is a farm near me that has a Ford FW60 . Kind regards from Matt .

[@alspeers6931]

Ok bro love ur channel 100% ,the 955 cu inch JD motor was a generator workhorse type motor that pulls well and was OK but like the ih 800 cu inch v8 both of those motors did not have a great low end motor,so the 855 Cummins, or the 60 series Detroit were often a stronger fit,just saying

[@kengrossman5858]

a minneapolis moline tractor that not a lot of people know about is the stutgart.. its 4wheel drive built in stutgartsarkansas...

[@william38022]

Pretty cool 😎👍

[@davidschlecht3016]

Two fine tractors of their day and now as well. It is great if one as the space and money to be able to own a part of american ag. history.🇱🇷👍

[@rongrose3746]

These are your two ? NICE !!

[@WintersCropSc447]

Like to have these both in my barn!

[@bigtractorpower]

They are nice V8 classics.

[@daveknepp7718]

Really nice collection.

[@chrisanderson6837]

I was surprised they made the 8850 so long. The local dealership sold one new and then wouldn’t take it back in on trade cause the reputation made it hard to sell. V configured deisel just never seem to last like a six. Don’t have a lot knowledge but Is it due to two rods between each main cap. What was the deeres engine trouble

[@bigtractorpower]

The 8850 is on an up swing in the past year. The last Kinze Re Power 8850 sold for $111,000 at auction this week. An 8850 with the V8 and 3,500 hours brought $71,000 this week. Last year an 8850 with 7,100 hours brought $52,000. It has become a collectors tractor. The V8s weakness was using the tractor for more than it was powred for and the engine not keeping up.

[@jankotze1959]

Both beautiful, wish I could join in the life stream

[@2020Tundra]

Love the IH... Merry Christmas BTP

[@noelhohberger1188]

I wasn't aware you got yourself a green tractor

[@jerryavery497]

the 4786 has a truck motor the 8850 has a cat engine when they were new they had head gasket problems i have worked on both

[@william38022]

I guess tractors of changed a lot over the years my uncle had a 7060 AC that uncle always preferred a AC my other uncle had some kind a big international Harvester it did not have a cab but it was big enough to have a cab I don’t know exactly the model big diesel turbo job he made a living with it,,, my grandpa had John Deere and everything else in between he never got rid of a tractor so when they had the estate sale people came from all around that was many many years ago,,,but I’ve noticed they don’t hardly make nothing around here no more all the names are kind of different now people are using different stuff it seems like maybe even foreign stuff looks like,,, i’ve seen midsize diesel McCormicks they said that were being made by a reputable Italian company I guess they bought the name I don’t know.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Would’ve bought a 1755. Once again your taste doesn’t disappoint Jay.

[@nellsonstout7001]

Two more things: 1. 2655s usually go less than 10k, and 2. Make that full wishlist public, maybe in video form. I bet BTP viewers could make it happen

[@bigtractorpower]

Hopefully I can own a 1755 some day.

[@nellsonstout7001]

bigtractorpower if I had to have an Oliver to work with, I’d want 3. A 1655, 1850 with the hydraul shift, and a 2150

[@SilverGleaner]

The cab is noisy to me when I drive my neighbor's 1981 4386 and I was surprised at the amount of glare from the hood when you drive into the sun. Definitely a bare bones tractor but a good looking tractor. The Deere entry into the cab has always been disagreeable with me and Deere didn't have a nice entry until they went away from the Sound Gard cab. I prefer the access to the batteries in my 7050 where you pull a pin and they swing out into the open.

[@MogulMonk1]

Why does the JD look way more newer? Is it the non-sun fainted paint? The less worn out tires? Or, JD sticking around until tdy, and not changing appearance (colors, design) that much on the outside?

[@alans.4167]

2 main design features... 1. The cab, the John Deere has curved glass. All the John Deeres with curved cabs look more modern next to tractors with square cabs. 2. The grill, the IH's gray "eggcrate" design really dates it. That style grill was even popular with cars and trucks of that era so it really stands out as 1970's/ very early 80's.

[@ericdillon1169]

Very neat video.

[@19661650]

Jason, More or a IH fan then the JD's... What is the Red n Yellow plow behind your IH? Moline or Massey Harris? 5 bottom? You really need an Oliver!!! Thanks for sharing.

[@bigtractorpower]

I am a big Oliver fan. The plow is a Moline. It is pulled by the farm’s Steam engine.

[@aaronsesula2033]

Both awesome tractor s

[@spliceoncharlie]

Merry Christmas BTP.

[@nowhereman8903]

I only ever liked one international tractor it was a Farmall 1206. I'd like a lot of IH tractors. But I really a John Deere man at heart. But I got to be honest I love all makes period but John Deere is number one to me

[@stanleybaker8707]

I like the international better,more classic.

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍

[@cambokunkhmer]

Good job

[@marklafayette6948]

From western Oregon

[@JasonShipley1979]

Merry Christmas!!!

[@jimmystrain883]

I like the wide tires on the International

[@bigtractorpower]

😁👍👍

[@kirakash3676]

Hi big tractor power

[@kutzeeuw]

I miss the live stream . I think you must tell next time.that ih Developd 6 tractors (7388 7588 and the 7788)a lot modern than the 86 serie.only they stopt the program and whant the 2+2 program in front line.

[@benkpsnyder]

I see john deere wised up and moved the exhaust and air cleaner to the side rather than keeping in the middle of the hood.

[@jimmclean160]

Like the 4786 red tractor used to have 2 - 4386 tractors and 1- 4366 four wheel drive tractors 2 hydro static tractors hydro 186 + a hydro 100, a 574 and a 434 sml tractors

[@bigtractorpower]

Very nice line up. I have a 4786, 4586 and 4366 featured here on the channel but a 4386 and 4186 have eluded me do far.

[@ashleythompson5550]

Luv ur channel. Here in ga

[@kennethstanton5407]

Laughed at the hydraulic controls. The other Steigers all seemed to have that same installation, but it always looked like it was put there with a combination of a cutting torch, sledgehammer and an axe lol. Never elegant. Just functional. The IH branded ones are fancy, by comparison. Only once did I do any damage with those sticking crude controls. It tried to unfold a cultivator that was locked in transport position, at start up. Made me use a bad word.

[@nellsonstout7001]

I thought the Steigernationals were way behind the green Steigers, at least as far as the series 3 and on green Steigers anyway

[@haroldmiller4625]

AWESOME ! ! ! !

[@stephenlivingston7889]

Witch one pulls the best with the same implement

[@bigtractorpower]

So far they both seem equal.

[@leegriep75]

Our 8650 has the side panels too

[@bigtractorpower]

Good to hear. Thank you.

[@markcarter8131]

How much for both tractors looking at 10000 acres

[@jamesolson9423]

The lower the RPM the longer the engine life will be.

[@navwinwells376]

Nice on both

[@navwinwells376]

Vanuatu

[@piperdoug428]

The JD needs a 10 board plow for some epic videos.

[@bigtractorpower]

It would be so cool to but a 10 bottom 3710 on the 8850 and a 10 bottom 800 on the 4786. They would be a cool plowing pair.

[@piperdoug428]

@@bigtractorpower the dream team 👍