The bubble never did burst for The Beatles! The fascination for the group is still enormous.
@raymondmanderville5052 жыл бұрын
As a 10 year old boy sitting cross leg 2 feet from the TV screen , staring wide eyed as Ed Sullivan announces “ Here They Are , THE BEATLES !!” . The next day at school everyone was talking about it . These behind the scenes story’s really fill in the blanks about what I was really not seeing . All the hard work & record company weasels that they were subjected to . I thank you both for this informative video interview .
@dmichael26972 жыл бұрын
I was nine 👋🤠🎸
@familydogg12342 жыл бұрын
I was 8. I thought the kids were throwing money at the Beatles( 2nd Ed Sullivan appearance live FL)- it was Jelly Beans!
@dmichael26972 жыл бұрын
Still working on Beatles tunes 🎸 Alternate tunings; Laurence Juber arrangements (he was lead with Paul McCartney/ Wings) 🤠
@morganamarvel70752 жыл бұрын
Same here, but as a girl! Amazing, eh?
@michael.in.taiwan2 жыл бұрын
Really wonderful to hear these conversations. Two people who know Beatles history inside out, yet modest and enjoyable to listen to. Jude, your research is incredible. Even when covering well known parts of the Beatles story, you provide so many fascinating details I hadn't heard. Matt, you really brought out the best in her with your knowledge and inquisitiveness.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael. Stay tuned for Part 3!
@CraigCairney832 жыл бұрын
1965 was one of my favourite years for Lennon and the Beatles. The Help and Rubber Soul albums are some of my favourites. From Ticket to Ride, to In My Life to Nowhere Man.
@tangibleandroid2852 жыл бұрын
Just imagine in one calendar year Help was released in August or June of 65, then Rubber Soul was written and recorded and released by Christmas I believe 1965 and then by the summertime Revolver was released! Give or take one calendar year, I mean I can't think of anything or anybody in an artistic medium that was as successful and Progressive in such a short time frame it still blows the Mind
@cliveedwards29582 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree about 65..Lennons music was still joyous..even the tracks he slated like 'it's only love'... Lennon missed the point that his songs were uplifting and gave enjoyment..his songs after 65 became more self examining and negative..still loved them..but were more self indulgent
@alanchamberlain99672 жыл бұрын
I agree! 'Help!' & "Rubber Soul" were masterpieces. They proved to the world they were more than a fad.
@cynthiaforsythe89892 жыл бұрын
I love these interviews so much. The storytelling timeline is giving me such a full picture of their lives. I knew the bits and pieces, but Jude really puts it all together. You’re the perfect moderator as well. Can’t wait for more !
@pgroove1632 жыл бұрын
1965 and 66' were incredible years for not just rock and roll but all genres of music.. classic
@DEKMAN992 жыл бұрын
Of all the Beatles authors, I think I love this lady. Being a Beatles fan , I can listen to her for hours. Buying your book Jude.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letter her know, dekman99!
@MissAstorDancer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yeah, yeah!!! I am buying her books ASAP!!!! I have mad respect for her knowledge, but even more for her enthusiasm! Thanks for doing this interview!
@christianstough63372 жыл бұрын
This lady is awesome. Getting after it, piece by piece. I'm so impressed. Flabbergasted. She's filling the void left by Lewisohn's unfinished work. All hail Jude Kessler.! Yay Nachitdoches!!! This is what I want. Take every day, use the known sources, summarize and possibly explain discrepancies fairly, and fill it in. It's not rocket science, it's a craft that requires taking the time and just being relentless, and Mrs. Kessler is getting after it. She is not to be trifled with. I'm so happy because someone is doing this and it isn't me. All I have to do is read. One comment on a review of her work on Amazon really struck home with . The Beatles were the Beatles first family.; especially Lennon. This is one of the things that makes me like them so much, they are so tight and close and it comes through in their music and them as a group. Which makes them really fun and warm. Yet it's an insane and unsustainable position- that type of closeness can not and should not be maintained. People need their own families. Lennon needs these guys, bad... until he doesn't. He grew up.
@familydogg12342 жыл бұрын
I hate referring to myself as a" historian". It makes my Heroes seem Old! I just Saw RINGO June 8 NYC - running,jumping around, singing climbing up the stairs to his drums. Joking with the audience. Man! Regarding History- sometimes when we don't SEE or THINK about someone for years we forget their name. Maybe we remember their first name. Or sometimes there are 3 different versions of a story circulating. Now we add Weed and Alcohol to the events- well we know how that goes. Lol- I've seen Mistakes in Led Zeppelin articles which goes uncorrected making it into books. Eventually someone comes forward and sheds more light to it. It's never ending. Ya ever notice- Nothing is real, Nothings gonna change my world and Nowhere man? Could be nothing LOL. THANX to everyone who believes Nothing is Beatleproof!!!
@RinnRuannan2 жыл бұрын
When I used to tour, sometimes as a musician, mostly as a tour manager, it is very much as described in this video. Getting two hours of sleep a day, if that. Eating every meal in the dressing room, except on the once-a-tour occasion of the record company treating us to a dinner in a restaurant. Seemingly endless travel. Motels well past their primes - if they ever had any. I dreaded the phone check-ins with the record companies because they always added 'events' to the schedules, many which were a miracle we made due to the distances travelled. It easily burns out all but the brightest-eyed, spirited go-getters. I had a rule after arriving back home after a tour, staying locked in my apartment for a minimum of three days. Most of it spent sleeping.
@lyndarosborough8692 жыл бұрын
This series of books sounds wonderful… thank you Matt … great interviews !
@ScaryStoriesNYC2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff! In fairness, nearly every year of the 60s was pivotal and marked great change.
@johnheaton56672 жыл бұрын
Great discussion....you are a very knowledgable and entertaining author Jude!
@jonvought700 Жыл бұрын
I so appreciate these thoughts and perspectives.
@jerrypotente87210 ай бұрын
I could listen to you converse with the knowledge-able , and lovely JUDEKESSLER , ‘eight days a week’,, and 52 weeks a year !!!!!!great ‘FAB-4’ info!!!!!!
@mattgould85922 жыл бұрын
Great to hear those insights into their working life, pretty hectic daily schedule. Really nice artwork on the covers, great drawings.
@paulsurelynotsmith8179 Жыл бұрын
This just gets better has it goes on just gripping insight love it
@eltronics2 жыл бұрын
This was a as enjoyable as Part 1. Can't wait for the final Part 3.
@user-qm7nw7vd5s2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful interview! Just when I think I know the story, you come up with yet another gem! She is fascinating. But it takes an informed interviewer to bring it all out. 👍👍
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thank you, M!
@vincognito2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear about the whole LSD debacle and get more details on it. I always wondered about the inside scoop on that moment with the sleazy dentist. I always thought some author should come up with a book called, "The Effect Of LSD On The Music Of The Sixties And Seventies." This has always been a fascinating subject for me. The pop music, in ways more than the rock music, of the 60's, was incredibly explorative when you consider all the modulations in in songs like Monday, Monday, Up, Up And Away, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Good Vibrations, etc. These people were creating colors by way of sound. And I do believe the cause of this exploration was largely attributed to the psychedelic. Incredible writing, I feel, that should be elevated in the academic world and the popular world, to the level of Jazz and Classical music.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
I think there is a video in this topic, Vinnie! Let's discuss soon.
@babylonian.captivity2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was particularly rapt by that part of the conversation. Exactly as you say, just so nice to hear that little bit of extra context! Really filled things out nicely.
@ChaunceyGardener2 жыл бұрын
They seemed more fond of their Hamburg days where they had 8-hour sets 7-days a week than the Beatlemania period. It's pretty much people that drives you crazy, not work.
@Steve688582 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt for another great video. I could listen to Jude for hours. So interesting.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Part three will be out in a couple of days, so stay tuned!
@michaelbuday56302 жыл бұрын
Loved the first 2 parts of this so far, you're a great interviewer. Love this Pop Goes The 60's site of yours once again. May it last forever!!!
@squorly2 жыл бұрын
I love the knowledge this lady has, very interesting. I wish I could find somewhere that has the books in stock
@john_milner2 жыл бұрын
As always Matt ... one can never close the book on the Beatles as individuals or musicians ... unless you lived through that decade ... it is difficult to fathom their social & musical impact ... unfortunately I was born in the 60's and missed out on that 'real time' impact ... 1965 and in particular Lennon's compositions ... In My Life, Girl & Nowhere Man show a new level of sophistication in terms of lyrics and musicianship from the band ... This period showed Lennon was still on par with Paul as the band's two major driving forces ... A real enjoyable gem of a discussion ...
@Sweetish_Jeff_2 жыл бұрын
It’s so great to watch and listen to these videos because we’re getting something new and different than the usual stories that have been told ad nauseum. It’s always refreshing to watch your videos, Matt.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jeff!
@denniswinters3096 Жыл бұрын
I loved being reminded of that comment John made at the Foyles literary lunch, " Thank you very much, you've got a lucky face ! " That was something gypsies who were selling heather used to say on the streets of Liverpool. That is so typical of John's humour. He could say so much in so few words.
@t2210002 жыл бұрын
I think that the Traveling Wilburys song "Handle with Care" was written about the trauma that George faced during Beatlemania. With lyrics like "Stuck in Airports, terrorized, sent to meetings, hypnotized- over exposed, commercialized" I think that's the feeling he's capturing. It's a miracle they survived the insane schedule they were under and it didn't affect the quality of their work in the studio.
@anthonyfrancis23744 ай бұрын
The allure of medication to get through it burned out many.
@Beatles602 жыл бұрын
Superb interview. I love Jude.
@barbbowen35722 жыл бұрын
Many Thanks Matt & Jude!...This is a "Walk down Memory Lane "!...Can never hear enough about My Favorite Group!!!...As a young Teen I saw "Hard Day's Night" on the Big Screen for a ticket Price of 35 cents!...Those were the Days!...Stay Safe & Take Very Good Care!..👍😃🌹!...
@strose20022 жыл бұрын
All of a sudden, I want to listen to Rubber Soul! Great Lp Cover too. Enjoyed the video. Looking in forward to part 3. Great stuff.
@pelaronson40862 жыл бұрын
BRAVO..what a great Lady, full of infos, anekdote... and Your norations are perfect. Thank You, and hope to "see"You soon.. Best wishes Ron
@Scotttyist2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information imparted in these interviews. I'm hearing things that have never really been explored before. It's a credit to Jude's skills. Thank you for bringing her to our attention. Thinking about how '65 was turning out to be a rerun of '64 for The Beatles it's worth comparing the LPs that they produced in those years IMHO. They burst out of the gate with their first fully original album at the start of '64 coinciding with the release of their widely-hailed first movie By the end of the year they were exhausted and reverted to the same formula of covers and originals that they used for their first two LPs. In '65 they put out a tired film and a so-so LP but finished the year off under pressure and came up with the groundbreaking Rubber Soul album. I wonder if they looked back when they were nearing the end of '65 and felt that they couldn't put out an album like Beatles For Sale again and whether this was something that hardened their resolve to breakthrough to another level?
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, Scott!
@babylonian.captivity2 жыл бұрын
Great little conversation, Matt. Thanks to you and your guest!
@seagullshame2 жыл бұрын
Good conversation. You definitely need to check out Chuck Gunderson’s Some Fun Tonight books if you haven’t already. The paperback versions are reasonably priced. He would be good person to interview as well. Super knowledgeable guy when it comes to their US tours.
@jackybluj2 жыл бұрын
I never knew about half the things Ms Hessler pointed out in your interview. I thought this was going to be a regurgitation of what so many authors had written before and I almost skipped this entirely thinking, "Matt will have something more interesting next time". Look at what I would've missed! The part about the LSD trip due to their dentist spiking their coffee was interesting because it wasn't the way George Harrison explained it in an interview which is part of Martin Scorsese's wonderful George Harrison biopic 'Living In The Material World'. He said it was the best feeling he ever experienced. But George said nothing about driving home. Interesting. I'm glad you'll have Jude Hessler back on the show!
@MrMcdagy2 жыл бұрын
Superb interview
@Gardosunron2 жыл бұрын
I actually like Help more than a Hard Day's Night. The opening 20 mins are fun and the apartment they share with the four different entrances is a good touch. Also enjoy the songs more.
@fshoaps Жыл бұрын
Frankly bizarre opinion. Hard Days Night is piece of art, incorporating French New Wave plot structure, and the innovative camera work. Help!, as the band has spoke to, is far more commercial, boring, and features far less passion from The Beatles.
@Mandrake5912 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some interesting reading, and I really like the drawings, just perfect!
@stefanredelsteinerexperien59572 жыл бұрын
Great coversation; I'll have to get Jude Kesslers book; always love to read detailed "day to day"-beatle books...
@feber162 жыл бұрын
I will be at the Chicago Fest next weekend as I have for almost every weekend since it started in 1977. I had to miss 3 Fests in the 90's because of my job. It has not been held for 3 years because of Covid so I am especially looking forward to this year! These interviews are very enjoyable!
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Hi Kathy! Have fun at the fest!
@4-dman4642 жыл бұрын
6:35 Love that: interrupting her information because Jude sees Matt's pet walking by. It occurs to me that's the challenge of writing a historical narrative novel-style - - to notice spontaneous incidental details trip across the page. The spontaneous tangent might be pulled from research (did the Lennons have a cat?) irrelevant to history-in-the-making but elemental to everyday life at the time and thereby key to bringing the past to life beyond the information.
@cconeafter9092 жыл бұрын
The Bungalow was Kinfauns. Harrison bought Kinfauns Esher bungalow on 17 July 1964. The LSD story appears in many books. George drives home at like 10 miles an hour.
@anneliamohara28429 ай бұрын
Very true !
@vincentm47172 жыл бұрын
Ringo once said and I'm paraphrasing here, " you love being famous but sometimes you want it to go away and it doesn't ". The Beatles had to be " on " all the time and not everyone can do that. I know for me personally it would get on my nerves. How they managed all that constant attention is amazing. Yet in their off time they managed somehow to live normally.
@jconwell842 жыл бұрын
You should do an episode on the Philippines stop in 1966
@tanakaafricahomedecor42022 жыл бұрын
The Beatles are hardworking and also in their early 20s. They have loads of youthful energy to do all sorts of things.
@samcassidy95572 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, keep it up. I've really enjoyed working my way through your videos on an evening. Any chance of a Band History on Love or The Mamas And Papas? I think those two would be great choices to cover. Something to consider for the future maybe.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Hello Sam, yes both of those groups will the the Pop Goes the 60s treatment!
@donkeyboy5852 жыл бұрын
IMO the actual musical change started with Help. There’s several songs that would have been right at home on Rubber Soul
@wyliesmith4244 Жыл бұрын
Matt, Somehow you create great show after great show, and this was one of the better ones. While I am sure that the Beatles were underpaid, I can't think of another pop group that had lasted in the recording as long as the Beatles before the Beatles changed the landscape. And a dollar then would be $10 then. In the US, the minimum wage was $1,15 in September of '64 (and had been that way since 1961), and then went up to $1.25 in September of '65. The next raise would be in 1967, and finally reached $2 per hour in '74 (and that was a result of the oil embargo). Correspondingly, the average new car cost less than $4500 and a NEW home's average cost was $20,000. I'm not saying that the Beatles were not underpaid, but most readers won't know how much inflation has affected our evaluation of the almighty dollar. It's hard to believe that Harrison drove on LSD. Twice a roommate offered to give people rides of 10 miles one way - but it was my car and I was expected to drive while on acid. Both times, I subconsciously let my body take over, and while I drove more slowly than usual, the riders had no idea that my mind was 'blown.' Driving is not an activity that I would recommend while on LSD.
@michaeldunne338 Жыл бұрын
Jude Kessler is just wonderful to listen too - lots of great perspective. Really enjoyed this segment. Seems quite true about The Beatles being first, and having to take much on the chin under Brian Epstein's oversight. Often people seem to look back at such histories with hindsight biasing the analyses or narratives. With that being said, seems Brian could have been more proactive in finding more things to do to make himself of value to the band, especially given the aspirations of the band members (or Paul and John) with Apple Corp in later years (circa 1967?). Seems Brian could have been a good advisor on efforts around signing recording analysts, or doing films, or even getting the band members more involved with publishing (didn't Eastman get Paul into publishing, starting with catalogues like that of Buddy Holly's?) ... his learnings along the way and standing with the Beatles could have been beneficial in such a counterfactual.
@anthonygreen70632 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable interviews, thanks, looking forward to part 3. Just one point, on Amazon, in the UK at least, I find the books are only available on Kindle, not in physical form?
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Some of the early ones are sold out and have not been reprinted as of yet. I think the newer releases help to finance reprints.
@cajunqueen51252 жыл бұрын
Luv it x 2.
@wildman11532 жыл бұрын
It may have been somewhat of a repeat year chronologically for them (purely by Epstein's management plan), but 1965 had plenty of memorable moments too, especially the historic Shea Stadium gig in August. The single releases of "Day Tripper", "Ticket To Ride", and "Nowhere Man" were simply great, and we played them along with the "Beatles '65" album incessantly that Summer, with "I Feel Fine" being my favorite track. Yes, in retrospect, "Help" is certainly a lightweight film, but it was quite a lot of fun seeing it in the theater, as it was definitely a product of its time. Also, I need to mention how great the "Help" single was, with it being ubiquitous throughout the month of August. Closing out the year with "Rubber Soul" capped another creative, and superb year for them. Lennon's writing became concise, and much more introspective in 1965, with the influence of Bob Dylan showing. On a side note, The Beatles did a short UK tour in December of '65 that's considered to be the Holy Grail of Beatle tours, but no audio was preserved, unfortunately. The artistic progression was quite evident.
@morganamarvel70752 жыл бұрын
Matthew:. All your shows are wonderful! 👍👍👍 As someone who grew up in the thick of Beatlemania days, as most of your audience, I do wonder about the other side alot. What I'd like to hear: you or your guests who were born later & have been mystified as if you were there from the start -- how does it happen? What is the process? Where does it start? What are the songs that grab someone who's living in a time of a different world of popular music than the 60's? Many of you younguns oft know things I don't. Do you get into the earliest records or the later or all? How do you "catch up"? from 📻 to 📀. from📽️ to📱etc I just assumed I was smitten by the atmosphere I was in, but I see so many others today who are immersed by what must require a certain inner quality & great effort. (Rock-'n'-roll has got to stop, junior's head is hard as rock 😚🎸🎶) I could offer in return 😉to describe the being in the moment: the desperate views of little tidbits of video, the magazines - pix & news, so holy, & of course the scent of fresh vinyl for X-mas. There's lots on record of the day & a few of us still around to tell about it. I would only be repetitive. Maybe it's been done -- shows about Beatles fans who were not even born for 10 or 20 years after they ceased as a group. If so who has those stories? 🙌🗣️💞😺 Thanx. Love what you do. It is amazing the effect of those four lads. There's a cliche for the ages! Cheers 🙏🌺✌️
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Morgana! I may explore some of your questions in further episodes on this channel so stay tuned!
@kjvbible16112 жыл бұрын
"Hey Jude" that was good!!!
@markjamesmeli25202 жыл бұрын
This is great. My observations? I really like this woman. She seems like she really studied to write her works. She's very "to-the-point" and honest. And observations on the drug culture between the UK and the US. In the UK and Europe, when the Beatles first encountered pills, they took them for the same reason that the old jazz musicians did (worldwide) - to be able to stay up and play for 12 hours and hopefully get paid and tipped more than going home after a four hour gig. There was no "mind expansion" concept even considered by the Beatles. Not until they got to San Francisco in 1964 and especially in 1965. The "influcencers" sought out the group. I know I bring up the Kingston Trio a lot, but, they were "the" group prior to the Beatles in America. The last "original" line-up formed in 1961 when John Stewart joined up. Three albums a year, touring, press, etc. Stewart recalls a time in late 1963, maybe early 1964, when he went out and took in the San Francisco club scene with one of his bandmates, as observers, for the first time in a long while. He said that when he saw the San Francisco LSD (etc.) crowd and the stuff they were doing by then, he said; "I knew the Kingston Trio was finished." He claims he wanted to leave their group then, but stayed on until early 1967...the week SGT. PEPPER was released in the US. So...you can just imagine how earth shattering that scene was to the Beatles in 1965. I think its Ringo that said the concept of "smoking to get stoned" was just ridiculous to he and Paul, but when they did (on the set of HELP! filming the ski resort scenes) they just ran around and laughed like school kids for hours on end. That's when I knew that Ms. Kessler's stories were probably spot on.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark - thank you for the comments!
@mozart99912 жыл бұрын
Kinfauns WAS George's bungalow in Esher. Cheers.
@richardcappuccio85612 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt I have throughly enjoyed so far the 2 part John Lennon videos that have come out recently Can't wait for Part 3 when that comes out. I have 2 questions for you that you might know the answers to. 1- Whatever happened to Raymond Jones who in October 1961 went into the NEMS store to inquiry about the record of My Bonnie which peaked Brian Epstein 's Interest in The Beatles.? 2- Is There an Original Copy of the Contract out there of when Brian became their manager in Dec 1961, then Updated in Early 1962.- for a period of 5 years. Once Again Thanks for putting out these videos. Take Care and Stay Safe/Healthy
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
1. Raymond lived long enough to be interviewed by Mark Lewisohn for his Tune In book. Alistair Taylor claimed in the 90s that he had fabricated the Raymond Jones character, saying he (Taylor) was the one who bought the record! This is patently false. 2. I've never seen the original copy of the contract but Lewisohn probably has a copy of it.
@richardcappuccio85612 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 Thanks for replying back. Much Appreciated.
@richardcappuccio85612 жыл бұрын
I may have sent a comment to you previously on this- there is a KZbin Channel " Tudor Smith" who has made numerous Beatles/ McCartney Videos-- showing the Various Historical Locations & Information of Liverpool & London. If you so choose to check them out.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
@@richardcappuccio8561 thank you I will!
@BeatlemaccaAR2 жыл бұрын
They were exhausted and fed up but I don't think they ever accepted to do anything Eppy suggested/proposed them to do IF they really DIDN'T want to. 64 and 65 were purely work work work cash cash cash years, and a pure breeding ground indeed for what was to come creatively. I think everything unfolded exactly (or almost) as it should in Beatles' history.
@SurferJoe12 жыл бұрын
A really great point at 33:14 about the EMI contract, and a rare (and valid) defense of Epstein.
@jts33392 жыл бұрын
In Jude’s second book she describes how Bill Harry inadvertently mislaid a full box of John’s writing during on of his moves. Imagine the treasure trove that was likely discarded because of his grudge over John’s unpaid portion of the rent. It’s a shame Bill didn’t have the foresight to retain the writing for the discovery of the “Lost Lennon Writing”in the future. That’s why I’m a pack rat and haven’t thrown away anything from that time!
@Sweetish_Jeff_2 жыл бұрын
I always felt like “Help” the album was a compromise and not really what The Beatles wanted. It’s essentially “A Hard Days Night” 2.0 with 7 tracks from the movie, 7 new tracks. Question for you. Matt: “A Hard Days Night” the album has 13 tracks. Which song do you think would have been the 14th track? If you look at their previous albums and the albums up to “Rubber Soul”, they all close with a rocking cover song. “A Hard Days Night” does not. It’s also the only Beatles album without a track from Ringo. I believe “Matchbox” would have been the 14th track and concluded the album. Thoughts?
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Good question. I think they ran out of time to record a 14th track OR Ringo got sick right before that Australian tour. A 14th track was meant to be a Ringo track, so Matchbox would have been perfect.
@hofnerbassman7372 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, excellent and very interesting discussion with (Hey) Jude. I did some research myself and found out that George and Patti did live at Kinfauns in Esher at the time of the LSD trip. George took up occupancy in July 1964 (according to Wikipedia!). I found the Epstein discussion very interesting as, whilst Epstein may have made financial errors due to his business naivety, the managers of the time (in the UK) had very dodgy reputations (eg Don Arden) for ripping off their clients, and were almost often regarded as bona fide gangsters ! Epstein always seems to come across as being a gentleman in his dealings back then. Epstein always treated “the boys” with high regard and would never knowingly rip them off. What we have to remember is that when Epstein signed up The Beatles, they were close to breaking up; just prior to Epstein’s appearance in their story, it seems the group were getting bored with the local gig circuit and they were pretty useless when it came to their own bookings and money. They had started losing promoters who had become fed up with their unreliability and their arrogance over money and were finding it hard to play round Liverpool. So they found Epstein at the right time, whose early promises were more gigs and more money. That’s possibly where Epstein’s view that touring was an absolute necessity, not only to keep them in the public eye but to justify his existence, came from. Also, I think that, by this time in 1965, Epstein’s style of management had started to grate on the band and, had he lived, Brian needed to develop and expand his management style of The Beatles to be more dynamic and personable. Finally, I believe the payment structure he exercised then was heavily influenced by English tax liabilities at that time (just listen to George’s “Taxman”). Cheers.
@paulcarpenter9992 жыл бұрын
Per the discussion on the revenues from the live shows in 65-66, that money went into a separate sub-company of NEMs. When Allen Klein started looking at their books in early '69, he specifically looked into unpaid income still held in this company. It was a racket.
@CartersRemasters2 жыл бұрын
Many people don't seem to agree with this, but in my mind, John Lennon in 1965 is peaking, all his Rubber Soul songs are great, and I think by Revolver, let alone Pepper, his songs are just worse then his Rubber Soul work and McCartney shines more
@CartersRemasters2 жыл бұрын
@@joe34012 I'm not saying he's not still talented and not still active, but the amount of quality Lennon pushed out AHDH to Rubber Soul is huge and in my mind slightly overshadows his later work.. Lennon still had great songs, but his Abbey Road/Let It Be work is clearly lacking compared to Rubber Soul.
@bobtaylor1702 жыл бұрын
The thing about the Beatles which maddens every real fan is their unreliability as historians of their careers. Also, there was a weird offhandedness in the way they referred to their work, which I attribute to a remarkable and attractive modesty. We don't know when Lennon wrote most of his Rubber Soul material. Chances are he'd had a lot of it around for months or years in various forms. I agree his Revolver songs aren't up to his Rubber Soul material. I think his Pepper material, with the exception of the execrable "Lucy" is underrated. And he's back in great weird form on The White Album.
@Gardosunron2 жыл бұрын
Partly agree. Except Lennon's White Abum songs are great and he also wrote I am the Walrus, Strawberry Fields, and A Day in the Life in 67.
@greg63512 жыл бұрын
I've learned as much about Brian as I have about John in this video. One question, Matt: You and Jude pronounce Brian's last name two different ways. Was it EpSTINE or EpSTEEN?
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
The family pronounced it EpSTEEN, but Brian pronounced it EpSTINE because he felt it sounded less Jewish. I got that from Mark Lewisohn’s Tune In.
@greggildersleeve29422 жыл бұрын
@@popgoesthe60s52 Thanks! I had no idea that Brian pronounced his name differently than his family did.
@cliveedwards29582 жыл бұрын
I think the dentist lacing the coffee was appalling !! I would have flipped
@Toobzilla2 жыл бұрын
working hard wasnt a problem for these guys. repeating what came before was the issue.. new ideas, new projects wouldve been met w exuberance.
@Toobzilla2 жыл бұрын
Brian loved the Beatles. he did nothing to advance anything but them & their interests.
@juliatutor80992 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt....Terry Tutor here....Where to start? While Jude believes that she has supplied evidently new information digging through the day to day aspects, I have read all this before ( there is a book from years ago detailing the Beatles day to day activities. Not to be negative, but try telling someone with a full time job that they hate ( which, I fear,is most of the working population)that the Beatles were working extremely hard and you can gage their response for yourself ...Simple: the real working people of the world would trade them head up....The Beatles? They wouldn't make that trade ( refer to the Beatles comments about "straight" jobs.)....Again, this is only in reference to this point and does not diminish my affection for the 4....Peace and Love, Terry Tutor
@Toobzilla2 жыл бұрын
he made all the difference & got them out of liverpool because he loved them.
@Neal_Schier2 жыл бұрын
Can't help but wondering why John, if the commute to and from the studio was getting to him, why he didn't just get a room for the nights he needed to be in town? Did he have the Rolls and the chauffer at this time? Just sounded a bit odd. The rest of us in life slog it out from early to late.
@denniswinters3096 Жыл бұрын
No wonder they felt completely burnt out by 1968, and the big rows started, carrying on into '69 when they really started to fall apart. They should've been allowed to pace themselves a bit, just to retain their own sanity.
@alanfunt40133 ай бұрын
Brian was incredibly insecure that the public would forget the Beatles if they didn't appear 24/7.
@Toobzilla2 жыл бұрын
one needs to understand that there was no precedence prior to the beatles. as their manager you had no idea what worked, what didnt need to be, etc.. exposure to keep them vital wouldve been of utmost importance to all involved, even the lads. they wouldve refused the madness if they thought it was needless.. also, their recording deal was terrible, earnings-wise. touring, appearances etc was the breadth of their income..
@babylonian.captivity2 жыл бұрын
(Hi, Oreo!)
@michaelrochester482 жыл бұрын
I wish you could ask her where people can purchase these books at a reasonable price, because what they are selling and Amazon is outrageous. And a lot of it’s Kindle and I don’t do Kindle I do real books
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
The out of print books are the only ones that are not available through normal channels. I think they will eventually be reprinted but several are available but they the more recent volumes.
@squorly2 жыл бұрын
I went on her website and some of them are sold out in all but kindle version. I don't do Kindle either
@SurferJoe12 жыл бұрын
A great point about the merchandising, too. It was all new. No less a figure than Walt Disney went through the same thing. Completely naive about anything but making the films, he waited until someone walked in off the street to advise him- Kay Kamen- and then happily awarded him 50% of Disney merchandising, which Walt honored until Kamen's death. And if Epstein thought Beatle trinkets were ephemeral, I wonder how many Beatle wigs, lunchboxes, and bubble gum cards were being sold by 1968.
@popgoesthe60s522 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, Joe!
@violao2062 жыл бұрын
If I may comment on the remark, "that in those days, you had to keep producing...". How is that different from today? Today it is every bloody second in the TikTok culture. WTH?
@Kiekhaefer62 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it was really good acid
@paulpellico37972 жыл бұрын
however, the beatles set list lasted only, on average, 35minutes orless. so,while a lot od shows...these were far less than MOST bands at the time. even my son giggles at their set length compared to others. perhaps all the other public appearances were straining them, but please, the shows were ridiculously short.
@barbbowen35722 жыл бұрын
...yes, 35 mins of 1000's of Screaming Fans!...No Headsets or Ear Pieces so the Group could Play ...
@EmmanuelGoldstein32 жыл бұрын
So I take it the dentist is the guy who ends up being Dr Robert?
@anthonyfrancis23744 ай бұрын
It was all new there was no blueprint and the dodgy old-school entertainment impresarios cracked the whip and took full advantage of Brian's lack of business acumen and ran the Beatles into the ground.
@alanchamberlain99672 жыл бұрын
The movie "Help!" might have been a bubblegum movie, but the music was not.
@lisalasoya2898 Жыл бұрын
In the beginning of this book it depicts Yoko Ona as being a co-defendant of John's demise of heroine. I almost got disgusted since I hate that drug it lowers people, and it felt like he used this woman for a scape-goat. The residuals off Apple industries seemed to me that they were getting ripped off, which underneath this conspiracy blamed Ringo Star. The result, John was shoot during Pearl Harbor day, a likely story...You tried.
@captainape68072 жыл бұрын
They were meant to do a Western but abandoned it. Imagine how that would have turned out?
@Toobzilla2 жыл бұрын
he made a lot of shitty deals, & threw tons of income away but none of it was done maliciously. he was ignorant & uneducated in the realm he was managing.
@AlejandroRamos-im4to2 жыл бұрын
Now I am bigger than Lennon. Alex Ramos
@cleroyster26102 жыл бұрын
Too hard to listen to this woman. See ya.
@diggyd2 жыл бұрын
Stay ignorant so.
@cameronlewis12182 жыл бұрын
What? Her accent? This lady is an intelligent, well-spoken, knowledgeable Beatles fan. I’m thrilled to listen to her…
@barbbowen35722 жыл бұрын
...bit of a Southern touch to her Voice...Jude is a True Fan of John's..."Let It BE"...😃!...