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John Lennox on Genesis

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@SpanishwithNeena
@SpanishwithNeena 5 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Lennox...so intelligent, yet so full of the spirit of love that Christ has called us to have.
@masada2828
@masada2828 5 жыл бұрын
Folk Aart - you, are the one without intelligence, you have no answers and no hope.
@ryananderson6572
@ryananderson6572 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart How do you determine no evidence? Can science recreate the biological level of dna to make a being? There is an intelligent design in all our dna. That can replicate itself. Can you live without any dependency? If not, then i will keep my faith.
@ryananderson6572
@ryananderson6572 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart Ignorance is a form that boasts in what they don't understand. I understand that we don't have all the answers in Science. A historian can see the past and tell you what happened. But he didn't make the history only observed it. The same principle is true in Science. We are seeing and seeking of what we don't understand. Science is a collection of observed data. Not a form to say they can create atoms themselves. So, with common sense I know man cannot create what man sees. Therefore, another intelligence had to make atoms and molecules etc. Science has already admitted that everything came from nothing. So I'm not ignorant by my research and the observation of others. I respect your opinion.
@ryananderson6572
@ryananderson6572 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart What thought can I/you give without self gratification or judgement? None. Your not past square one since you have to use a tool that was manipulated by something original. All you can do is wait for other men to tell you what you already know and call it trust to build your own belief system. An explosion is only caused by a reaction. Nothing reacted with something that caused everything to happen. What is the something? You will never live long enough to see what that something is and if I'm wrong in my conclusion that is my theory. Science and scientists can only do the same exact thing. So how is science your God in what you trust in? If they can do best at speculation.
@ryananderson6572
@ryananderson6572 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart I've done my homework making multiple points. You repeat yourself without explanation. You can insult others and look foolish while making your self feel better by saying your honest and better. In truth, you will never know the secret of the universe and it will be a quest that will consume you of the obvious truth. You say science doesnt know, so i guess from your previous point science is ignorant of its own self existence. As I'm ignorant of saying look at how atoms and molecules form everything we see. Some being had to form them. Keep making truth claims as they violate your own scientific theories.
@emmettmdixsonjr5644
@emmettmdixsonjr5644 5 жыл бұрын
"A thousand years to man is but a day to God." 2 Peter 3:8, Psalms 90:4
@cptrikester2671
@cptrikester2671 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart To use your analogy, Do you think an eternity as an eternal kicking dog for a fallen angel would get pretty tiring after the first 100 million years? Also LOL.
@paramendra
@paramendra 5 жыл бұрын
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@deadonrivl
@deadonrivl 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart Tell us about fear
@cptrikester2671
@cptrikester2671 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart The faith is not based on fear, it based on reason. Since reason (rational process) should be used to determine what to believe (faith), the degree of understanding is critical. Faith in God and Jesus is not out of fear, it is a result of joy.
@lynlynb7139
@lynlynb7139 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart lol that's a nice strawman you got. It be appreciated if you could not over generalize everything disproportionly to fit your warped view on reality. Nevertheless, how do you as a athetist discredit the existance of God?
@starrjohnson5525
@starrjohnson5525 6 жыл бұрын
That’s as close to perfection on the topic as we probably can get. Wow. Loved it.
@carolynmiller2651
@carolynmiller2651 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. John Lennox is always an enlightening honor.
@le-manu298
@le-manu298 5 жыл бұрын
He is a Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge University. And you? A Professor of Yellow Shit?
@GeoCoppens
@GeoCoppens 5 жыл бұрын
@@le-manu298 Rolf Leseratz is damn right about the deluded fool John Lennox!!!
@ronaldlatchman1268
@ronaldlatchman1268 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people associate the belief in God as idiotic. Is there a better explanation
@GeoCoppens
@GeoCoppens 5 жыл бұрын
@@@ronaldlatchman1268 ‘In the case of religious belief, never attribute to intelligence that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.’ Hanlon’s Razor
@rodneysettle8106
@rodneysettle8106 5 жыл бұрын
Vaiz Patu maybe he should stick to numbers.
@withbravado1548
@withbravado1548 5 жыл бұрын
What a charming dude. Love his speeches.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Hitchens. Lennox bores me with his boyhood religious indoctrination which I outgrew 40 years ago.
@fossilarcher
@fossilarcher 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRichardWiley hey, nobody asked
@justtruth467
@justtruth467 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant lesson. Your thoughts are very enlightening. Teach us more.
@jakepokemonman1227
@jakepokemonman1227 6 жыл бұрын
Was just reading Genesis going through some stuff when I found this video. Even 2 years after you posted it it is helping me. Astounding thanks to you.
@guychomgruendler3430
@guychomgruendler3430 5 жыл бұрын
I love me some John Lenox... he reminds me of a infinitely more intellectual version of Winnie the Pooh
@algow5988
@algow5988 5 жыл бұрын
he is the wise favorite uncle I never had.
@philschneider3040
@philschneider3040 5 жыл бұрын
@Rolf Leseratz he holds the seat of mathematics at Cambridge, a PhD in maths and a PhD in philosophy et al. He is repected by other equal intellects of athiesm.....and you thinks he's "stupid".
@Mr.Goodkat
@Mr.Goodkat 5 жыл бұрын
The best comment ever.
@thetrawlers9624
@thetrawlers9624 5 жыл бұрын
Rolf Leseratz Says the guy who rejects the historical evidence for Jesus. Even atheists like Bart herman believe he existed. You don’t even give your reasons why John Lennox is “stupid”. You just hate God and evidence for God
@philschneider3040
@philschneider3040 5 жыл бұрын
@@thetrawlers9624 now Rolf has a real quandry. If you hate something then you clearly believe in that something enough to hate it. Hating something that doesn't exist is a special kind of stupid.
@jeremychannel333
@jeremychannel333 7 жыл бұрын
It's a powerful statement on the fact that the word never ever constradicts itself ever & we must get our bearings & not overstep our grasp & reach on our own understanding period.
@catalinahonsowetz3009
@catalinahonsowetz3009 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Lennox! I truly enjoy learning from you and everyone in your group!
@repuditegamer0079
@repuditegamer0079 7 жыл бұрын
The brilliant mind of Dr. Lennox in action!
@junelledembroski9183
@junelledembroski9183 5 жыл бұрын
Rolf Leseratz No need for hate
@paramendra
@paramendra 5 жыл бұрын
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@stanstevens6289
@stanstevens6289 5 жыл бұрын
ROFL!! Yeah, right!
@a.t.6322
@a.t.6322 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. One of his best talks.
@raywinsor3948
@raywinsor3948 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, regarding Dr. Lennox’s exegesis of the meaning of “day” (Hebrew yom) in Genesis 1:1-2:4, Christians are well aware there are several uses of meaning for “day” (Heb. yom) in scripture, but the important question is: “What is the usage and meaning of “day” (yom) in its biblical context in Genesis 1:1-2:4? The word “day” (Heb. yom) associated with a numeral (i.e. “first day,” “second day,” etc.) in Genesis 1 , occurs 359 times in the Old Testament outside Genesis 1; it always means a literal (24-hour) day. Why do scientists and theologians alike, therefore, insist that Genesis 1 is describing multiple/sequential, indefinite periods of time, and is the only exception to the perspicuity or clear meaning of scripture (even to them) and cardinal rule that “context defines the meaning of a word,” other than their misplaced faith in an unproven hypothesis that fallible contemporary scientific thought embraces? So that the straightforward language of Genesis 1 could not possibly be clearer, each day of Genesis 1 is qualified by “evening and morning” (“And the evening and morning were the first day”-second day, etc. ), underscoring the fact that the creation days of Genesis are the same and have clearly defined boundaries-one cycle of dark and light, evening and morning-not separated by long periods of time. The real battle is not between the Bible and true science , which has always affirmed the truth of scripture, but rather between faith in inspired, infallible scripture and faith in fallible antitheistic hypothesis. Dr. Lennox, to his credit as a committed Christian, is well aware of legendary names in science-Kepler, Kelvin, Faraday, Boyle, Pascal, Fleming, Newton, etc.----who demonstrated that scientific proficiency is not incompatible with the literal truth of the Bible. God bless.
@danielnegru1245
@danielnegru1245 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent point !
@nickwilliams9450
@nickwilliams9450 4 жыл бұрын
Ray, could you please post some examples of a numeral associated with the word day? I'm not referring to something which is counting days for people in the Bible, because in such circumstances the context would clearly be using the word day as intended for the human audience at the time being discussed. I struggled to find examples of a numeral with day which was even similar to Genesis when I last decided to look at this matter. Then when I take that Genesis, in context, would not be from the perspective of a human and most of the rest of the Bible is. I tried to take each example in context for whether or not it had a human audience, and when I was done, I certainly didn't have hundreds of examples to give clarity to Genesis. I'm not seeking to prove that they weren't 24 hour days with this. I'm just saying that this particular argument is one which I don't believe stands up and that's after I tried checking it out for myself. If you have some examples for which you feel their context would help with understanding in Genesis, I would enjoy reconsidering them. It's possible my eyes were tired toward the end. I explored MANY arguments for the YEC literal interpretation and one by one I found them to be far less concrete than one might assume by the way they're often presented. This didn't lead me to believe that YEC is simply wrong or even that the creation days couldn't be 24 hours, but I was never left with a single thing which mandated such an interpretation either.
@exclusive_148
@exclusive_148 3 жыл бұрын
Its still a fact that "yohm" can be more than 24hrs. With that being said "evening and morning" is 12hrs. Morning to morning would be 24hrs. If the bible doesnt line up with science than eaither the science is wrong or the interpretation of the bible is wrong.
@katiecook1269
@katiecook1269 5 жыл бұрын
We don't go door to door! GOD doesn't force HIMSELF on anyone, but we are to tell others about JESUS! You can listen or walk away the choice is yours! Why such animosity ?
@robertdennis3892
@robertdennis3892 5 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Many hard questions of the skeptic are answered by God's allowing us the freedom of choice.
@robertdennis3892
@robertdennis3892 5 жыл бұрын
Why such animosity? Because the enemy, Satan, has never respected free choice, or freedom itself. Which is why even "tolerance," in the politically liberal sense, is actually intolerant of dissenting views, particularly those of Christians.
@katiecook1269
@katiecook1269 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertdennis3892 Satan doesn't respect anything or anyone even those who serve him!
@Mentat1231
@Mentat1231 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting that you say Christians don't go door to door, because the apostles and other first-century Christians did exactly that; and, indeed, Jesus himself did that along with others he commissioned while he was on Earth. But it's quite true that we should not force anything on anyone.
@katiecook1269
@katiecook1269 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mentat1231 I have been a Christian for many years now, but I am not infallible:) As I recall the disciples went town to town preaching outdoors, not door to door knocking! They went to homes only if invited or went to homes of other Christians. JESUS preached outdoors unless invited to someone's home . He went to friends home such as Martha, Mary and Lazarus. He did invite HIMSELF to the home of Zacchaeus (sycamore tree) because JESUS knew his heart and that he was seeking things of the KINGDOM. If you know of scriptures saying HE went door to door . Please write me! The Bible does say about JESUS, Behold I stand at the door and knock and any man opens the door I will come in and sup with him., but this is talking about the Heart being the door, not an actual house. Blessings to you and yours!
@soulz2003
@soulz2003 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I found this guy sooner! He reminds me of Ravi a bit, but a different personality. I've heard a lot about him. He's really good!
@sungschoo
@sungschoo 5 жыл бұрын
God created all things - Bible says it, I believe it and that settles it!
@Freethinkingtheist77
@Freethinkingtheist77 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is disputing that, least of all John Lennox.
@robertdennis3892
@robertdennis3892 5 жыл бұрын
That may be true and settles the matter for many, but for many, like myself, growing up in a secular, skeptical culture, this amounts to blind faith. This is one reason people like Dr Lennox are so special to me. Our faith in Christ is a rational, reasonable faith, based on a preponderance of evidence. Can blind faith save someone? Of course, if it is placed in Christ. But blind faith has led so many astray. Many have blind faith in astrology, atheism, pantheism, cults, or TV commercials. This blind faith, moreover, whether placed correctly or not, is also a turn- off for many skeptics who are seeking truth.
@stephenbermingham6554
@stephenbermingham6554 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertdennis3892 he is being sarcastic.
@robertdennis3892
@robertdennis3892 5 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbermingham6554 Perhaps, but I stand by my answer.
@soulz2003
@soulz2003 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertdennis3892 The Bible preaches to be a healthy skeptic. But it also preaches love, and compassion.
@malvokaquila6768
@malvokaquila6768 3 жыл бұрын
Such a consummate gentle man. I pray that God will grant me half of his wisdom, and all of his kindness. He's the Belfast Baron. 🧐
@raywinsor3948
@raywinsor3948 5 жыл бұрын
Though Dr. Lennox contends that Genesis is real history, he nevertheless maintains that it is “logically possible to believe the days of Genesis 1 are 24-hour days (of one earth week) and still believe the universe is very ancient. I respectively disagree. On this note, he postulates six creation days , not as days of a single earth week, but rather as days of normal length with “evening and morning” (Genesis 1:5, 8,13,19,23, 31) , separated by long periods of time and each day of which God inaugurates a creative fiat introduced by the phrase “And God said” or new level of information and energy to advance creation to its next level. With all due respect to Dr. Lennox, I find his exegesis of the biblical text, especially the meaning of “day” (Hebrew yom) in Genesis 1:1-2:4 to be highly conjectural and inconsistent with scripture. For example, “Plant life was created on day 3, including flowering plants and seed-producing trees (1:12). But birds didn’t appear until the fifth day (v. 21) and earth-bound animal creatures, including insects (“creeping things” v. 24), were not created until day 6. As every gardener knows, there is a necessary symbiosis between most flowering plants and insects that utterly rules out their existence apart from one another. All these different, interdependent life forms could not have evolved together simultaneously; neither could the flowering plants have been created thousands/millions of years before the insects and birds” (see The Battle for the Beginning by Dr. John MacArthur, pp. 63-64). In other words, inserting thousands/millions of years between each of the creation days of Genesis 1 reduces the biblical meaning to absurdity. The Bible stresses the sudden and immediate ex nihilo (out of nothing) , as indicated by the language of the creative fiat “And God said” for each creation day; therefore, creation days in which the universe and all life forms were created could not have been separated by thousands/millions of years. On that note, I agree with Dr. John MacArthur, who said, “I don’t believe a faithful handling of the biblical text, by any acceptable principles of hermeneutics, can possibly reconcile these chapters (Genesis 1-3) with the theory of evolution, or any other allegedly scientific theories about the origin of the universe (may I add, including the uncertain Big Bang cosmology that itself is in a constant flux-see The Battle for the Beginning, pp. 18-19). Having clarified why I believe Dr. Lennox’s “old earth” position is inconsistent with the straightforward reading of Genesis 1 , I would like to interact with him on a few significant points. Having stated he understands the ridicule Christians face over miracles (p. 32) and cited Augustine as a good example of how to engage the biblical record with science (p. 31), he states, “The take home message from Augustine is, rather that, if my views on something not fundamental to the Gospel, on which equally convinced Christians disagree, attract ridicule….” (read whole quote on page 32) . His view on “something not fundamental to the Gospel in this context, clearly the straightforward reading or literal interpretation of Genesis 1, demands correction. Everything Paul says about the doctrines of original sin and justification by faith, “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive: (1 Cor. 15:22) is fundamental to the Gospel message of redemption, especially the creation of an historical Adam and an historical Fall (Genesis 3; Romans 5:12, 18-19; Mark 10:6; Matthew 19:4) . On page 122-123 , in which he discusses the true record of divine revelation (The Genesis Flood of Noah) and the Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic , he does not mention that the details of the Gilgamesh Epic (unstable cube shape ship 165 ft. by 165 ft. by 165 ft. , with six decks), which merely reflect the true record of the Bible (very stable ship 450 ft. by 75 ft. by 45 ft., with three decks and total capacity of 1.4 million cubic feet) are the ones which have become corrupted and distorted over time, due to human fallibility. As Dr. John C. Whitcomb , in The Early Earth , remarks: “The Gilgamesh Epic alone rightly considered , administers a fatal blow to the concept of a vast antiquity for Noah.”
@beckya4074
@beckya4074 4 жыл бұрын
God was capable of giving the entire earth light (probably emanating from His Sheckina Glory) from Day 1 to the first part of Day 4 so I would think He could use other means to pollinate plants & feed animals if He wanted to. I think the only truly 24hr days started (& still continue) on day 5. The first 4 could’ve taken minutes or eons.
@richo40001
@richo40001 4 жыл бұрын
Now you raise some interesting points with references but i dont want to have this as a battle of winning. The biggest drive for science which is the basis of how most people are testing biblical text is based on not knowing. Scientists are constantly finding changes even in things that they had believed or prooved as they say to be profound. Now for me God has proven to be so big and for some reason i find our minds so shallow to grasp some of the things he has done. I agree to a very big degree that God has powered us with capacity to imagine some things for the sole purpose of us understanding that this is not for us to fully figure out but to know that He is just unbelievable in what he does or did. Now we seat to discuss what He did and how He did and we are constantly fighting how that is possible or not possible. For me the Grand question has always been, WHAT IS THE MEASURE BEING USED TO JUDGE IS INTERACT FOR US TO SAY IT IS POSSIBLE OR IMPOSSIBLE WHAT HE DID?
@thomascurtis9630
@thomascurtis9630 5 жыл бұрын
i think its good people take it seriously shows strong faith, god bless all!
@brotherbryan2414
@brotherbryan2414 4 жыл бұрын
I like Lennox .. Super intelligent yet humble
@kymvanderkaag1474
@kymvanderkaag1474 5 жыл бұрын
"Did God truly say......" is Lucifer's introductory question to Eve. God is holy, he says what he means and means what he says.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. It is sad that Christians need atheism to explain biblical theology 101. I love Lennox but he's cutting his own throat here. Matt 19:4 clearly says Jesus made them in the beginning, not billions of years later. Compromising Gods Word causes a cascade of doubt on more and more verses until we just have to shred it all. I stand on the Word and let every man be a liar.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton- Maybe you should get a dictionary and discover the word context. You'll believe anything to keep your fantasy. Most people can discern history text from symbolism type text. But I can tell it would be a waste of time for you. Swallow your atheism all you want. Why do you think Jesus' first miracle was to turn water into aged wine? I guess you think that happened in 200 years? Because Jesus needed time, He didn't make time?
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton - The same reason He sent His Son to die for us. He didn't NEED to. He rested the 7th day as an example for us. God MADE time, gravity, magnetism. Her didn't NEED them. He made them for us. Your god is just small. Mine is not. Your god needs evolution. Mine existed before atheism created Him. My God makes sense. My Bible makes sense. You don't.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton God measured the time in Gen 1:14. I believe He did it to make atheists look stupid. He obviously wanted us to know clarity, not unknown amounts of time. There is literally no need to inject great scripture with nonsense especially garbage from non believing atheists. If you can't trust the 1st chapter, then I guess you don't need to read any further. When we throw away original sin, death by sin, we don't really need a savior. If Adam was really a monkey, we don't need a 2nd Adam. The Bible is clear there was no death until Adam sinned. Believe what you want. I think you destroy a lot of necessary Biblical doctrine. It sickens me. When God looked upon the Earth and said "it was very good"... He wasn't talking about hundreds of billions of bones, millions of extinct species and 99% of creatures ripping each other to shreds.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton - You're actually very wrong. It wasn't until the late 1800s that Gen started being loosely interpreted. I'm not agitated at all. I just think it's a real shame that people are deceived with lies by the Devil. To say God needed time to make anything is literally just stupid if you know anything about the Bible at all. God is not even in our time. He can enter it at will but He doesn't NEED anything or He wouldn't be God. Time was created by God for us. We are linear. He is eternal. It's very sad. I wouldn't believe in God if I thought evolution were true. Evolution is entirely based upon NO God. It is naturalism, materialism. Those are complete anti-God concepts. Believe what you want. It is not Biblical tho.
@Triumvirate888
@Triumvirate888 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with him that it's idiotic to be dogmatic about the "when" of creation. I'd be perfectly fine to die for my faith THAT God created the world, but I wouldn't be willing to die for my faith about WHEN God created it. I just don't know it in my heart the way I know THAT God created the heavens and the earth. I disagree with him in that I don't think that a woodpecker was designed to eat bugs though. The Bible talks about all animals being vegetarian before the flood in Noah's day. Unless insects are considered to be vegetables, I believe that animals that eat other animals do so as a starvation necessity, not because they were designed to do so. A car engine can run on pure moonshine, but it was never designed to do so and it will significantly reduce the lifespan of the engine, but it still works. Also, the Bible doesn't categorize plants as "alive", and they do not "die". Plants thrive and wither. They don't live and die like animals or people do.
@tonyrossi3151
@tonyrossi3151 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy his simple perspective. I for one, believe the illumination spoken of in the first two days was simply the light of God himself (Revelation 21:23). The day refers to the rotation of the earth (Isaiah 40:22). I may be wrong but it seems to work logically. Thanks for the discussion.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 5 жыл бұрын
Creeping and crawling things don’t breathe through any nostrils. So Not animal life.
@stanstevens6289
@stanstevens6289 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing something in your heart proves NOTHING. It's just a myth, end of, and makes just as much sense as the rest of the bible... namely none.
@prudhvic4
@prudhvic4 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when someone is convinced both of science and religion. It clearly shows that even a good mathematician like John is willing to go to any extents to reconcile the two.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
amen
@daveyofyeshua
@daveyofyeshua 6 жыл бұрын
Way I gleam is God made the animals on the earth on the sixth day, which includes the dinosaurs as later God told Job even though he had no idea what he was being told. So if the 6th day can see out the dinosaurs in their entirety, this give you an idea about time scale. We are still in the 7th day since rest.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
Even tho the Bible says God made man on the six day? What about Matt 19:4? Was man made in the beginning or billings of years later? Does day mean era or day? Does beginning mean end? Does everything mean nothing? I love Lennox but he's wrong here. Context means everything. Read Gen 1:14 and tell me God is not being exact, and not confusing. He is clearly giving details and measurements, not faerie tales. The 1st miracle of Jesus was turning water into AGED wine. He did that to show He was the same God of the Old Testament, the one who created all things. And it didn't take Him 50 years. It was instant.
@johnpinckney7269
@johnpinckney7269 5 жыл бұрын
The concept of the day is not defined by the earth's rotation and the sun. Day is defined before the creation of the sun.
@Jamie-Russell-CME
@Jamie-Russell-CME 6 жыл бұрын
The no evening and morning for Sabbath is a hint to the milennium where the Lamb is the light there of. And as Isaiah indicates, God prophecied the major events of each 1,000 year period, the flood, the parting of the sea, John the Baptist pointing to the Greater Light and the gathering of the people/stars as they also are likened to in Revelation on the sea of glass etc. Adam died in the "day"(1,000 year)he ate the fruit @ 930ish years old. Peter reminds us not to be ignorant of this very thing.
@athiniartist2390
@athiniartist2390 5 жыл бұрын
Well thanks for this, it opened my mind a lot
@AndersErichsen-rr7vs
@AndersErichsen-rr7vs 6 жыл бұрын
6 days is 6 days around 5000-7000 and resting on the seventh day. Anyone being honest with the text should clearly be able to see this. Now there are some issues around the exact year as we have some variance in the manuscripts. But clearly it does not talk about million or billions of years.
@phaturtha216
@phaturtha216 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's eating at 2 tables, trying to serve 2 masters. Let God be true...
@phaturtha216
@phaturtha216 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton Haha I'd say he has more faith than me, but just rather imprudent as to where he places it. The third member of the trinity is not in the business of rendering imperfect figures of speech. Nowhere in the Bible do we see anything even vaguely supporting modern cosmology or evolutionary biology. The injunction against serving 2 masters obviously has general application. But yes you're right, the flesh wars against the spirit and vice versa, so may I try removing the plank from my eye while we pray for John, you and I, and all others in this spiritual war that in Christ we may be more than conquerors in God's holy grace and truth.
@phaturtha216
@phaturtha216 5 жыл бұрын
@Daulton Horton The injunction to not serve 2 masters is imho derived from the Shema and the 1st commandment: love God first and have no other gods but Him. In that scripture the other god was Mammon, in Lennox's case it's the creator of a false cosmic fantasy, ie satan. Question - was it the wild animals in the world that made Cain say 'The punishment is more than I can BEAR?' Or was he just LION about it?
@justinthompson7332
@justinthompson7332 6 жыл бұрын
He says that he believes what scripture says on this matter , but may not understand. That we shouldn't be dogmatic about it. That there's no argument about the cross and salvation. So basically as brothers and sisters in Christ it would be utterly wrong to argue about Genesis, but here everyone is arguing back and forth. Bravo!
@VierthalerStudios
@VierthalerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
I love his accent and the things he says.
@VierthalerStudios
@VierthalerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Folk Aart agree to disagree.
@binmyrtmind
@binmyrtmind 5 жыл бұрын
Folk Aart what’s your purpose on here? Are you listening to learn or argue for nothing better to do? It is said “O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not to the counsels of God, for they set it aside supposing they know of themselves, wherefore their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish. But to be learned is good if they hearten unto the counsels of God..”
@tysonbailey17
@tysonbailey17 Жыл бұрын
The word, faithful & true. The sword, the beginning & the end. 1 day is a thousand years.. If Jesus returned in 2 days from his birth wouldn't it be 2030.. a most important date to the elite.
@EdgaYussef
@EdgaYussef 3 жыл бұрын
·ÊXODO (cap. 20)· 11 Porque em seis dias fez o Senhor o céu e a terra, o mar e tudo o que neles há, e ao sétimo dia descansou.
@whitsundaydreaming
@whitsundaydreaming Жыл бұрын
Right on.
@russelllowry1061
@russelllowry1061 3 жыл бұрын
God says that his ways, are not our ways, and his thoughts , are not our thoughts. We are not to understand it all, until we meet him someday. I became a christian after studying Bible prophecy, it is God's fingerprint on the Bible. Jesus said, I tell you what will happen, before it happens, so when it happens, YOU WILL BELIEVE. The rebirth of Israel, and the regathering of the Jews to Israel, after almost 2000 years of being scattered among the nations, is one of the greatest fulfillments of prophecy to occur. The Bible also talks of a rebuilt temple in the last days. Look for it.
@stephenmerritt5750
@stephenmerritt5750 4 жыл бұрын
That's bang on. The creation story is the scene of a vision of creation from on earth looking up. We modern thinkers tend to look at creation from the space station looking down but Genesis is the opposite. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was..." The "heavens" is the view from earth looking up.
@stephenlittle593
@stephenlittle593 5 жыл бұрын
who are we to judge God
@dangerboy808
@dangerboy808 4 жыл бұрын
Good point about the sun being on the 3rd day and us humans used the sunlight and rotation of the earth as our day, so it's a good possibility the beginning was longer
@michaelbrickley2443
@michaelbrickley2443 3 жыл бұрын
think deep, have you ever checked out Dr. Hugh Ross, pastor and astro physicist? Interesting and brilliant. The most troubling thing for me about YEC is the lack of scientific evidence but they’ll claim that science is wrong. They make claims about geology. Look it up and you’ll find 7,8 YEC geologists and then you’ll find approx. 35,000 who disagree. At the end of the day, we need to be charitable and agree that YEC is not heresy. Shalom
@dangerboy808
@dangerboy808 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrickley2443 yes I watched many of hugh Ross's teaching hes got some good points, it's sad how many criticize him saying hes a heretic and not a Christian when he teaches the good news that jesus died for our sins and he paved a path for unbelievers
@michaelbrickley2443
@michaelbrickley2443 3 жыл бұрын
@@dangerboy808, he’s a scientist who became a pastor. Love his teaching and he always admit that the science can be wrong and time estimates can be off but my opinion, we have to trust science because Hubble and Einstein showed the evidence that the universe had a beginning based on their observations and equations. Einstein admitted that he fudged with his equation because he didn’t like the implications. If anything, science only keeps proving the truth of the Bible. Bible liberalism only came in to vote because of Darwinism and what people thought Darwins theory would do to our God. Yahweh, God, does not need us to defend Him. He needs us to love one another and share the hope that is in us. There is also the honesty of the philosopher, Antony Flew, who wrote there is a God after realizing the complexity of DNA did not allow for random beginnings. Amen…& Shalom
@dangerboy808
@dangerboy808 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrickley2443well that is one thing I do disagree with science does not and will not have all the answers , I only trust science to a degree, according to science virgin birth is impossible, or even an everlasting supreme being is impossible. And that's one thing I kinda see how hugh ross is contradicting with following science to find the age of the earth but he agrees with a virgin birth but other than that he has a heart for God and I's quite intelligent
@andrewhardy1992
@andrewhardy1992 7 жыл бұрын
He says it is very unwise to be dogmatic about it. What are the particular actual risks of being dogmatic that we should careful of. For example teaching to children the exact age of the earth as 6000 years in the subject of "Science" in a christian curriculum, which is in many other areas possibly less controversial. ?
@rlittlefield2691
@rlittlefield2691 5 жыл бұрын
I often say, that in Adam's "day," the word "day" can be used like it is in our "day." In Hebrew the word "day" was almost always used as an era. Even in the text of Genesis. God says in the "day" they eat the fruit they will die. But then when they ate it, years later the were still alive. In the law it is simply a word play.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
It is not a word play. The very day they ate of the fruit, death DID enter into the picture, the entire earth began to die. Their sentence of death was given that day. The entire world, all humanity, was cursed to die. That same day, sheep were killed for their sins, their clothing. Read Matt 19:4 and tell me when man was made. In the beginning or billions of years after everything else? Adopting the theories of atheists destroys much biblical theology. It undermines many other scriptures and just cascades from there.
@DDFergy1
@DDFergy1 4 жыл бұрын
John does very well in presenting Genesis.
@calvinwilliams4838
@calvinwilliams4838 5 жыл бұрын
PHILOSOPHY vs THEOLOGY ON THE EXISTENCE OF GOD: ALL of this is simply conjectural philosophy by MAN, since GOD is outside the realm of man's science & cosmic materialism then I have chosen to accept that GOD is far beyond man's comprehension thus this form of discourse by noted philosophers is called VICIOUS CIRCULARITY meaning that it does NOT answer shid but continually creates questions❗️
@rep3e4
@rep3e4 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox is awesome
@GeoCoppens
@GeoCoppens 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, awesomely foolish!
@superjam18
@superjam18 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, John Lennox is cool and seems like a nice person over all. Very humble
@jeremychannel333
@jeremychannel333 7 жыл бұрын
If we are too speculate on every aspect & we do not fully know exactly the ligit time frame it is a dangerous endeavour too make assumptions to a nonbelievers of the matters outside of the fact that matters most of which it is laid out & designed by our Creator & God & that is the important aspect & our focus should be that we study it & lean into Gods understanding & not our own!
@beckya4074
@beckya4074 4 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I must insert here that Lennox must’ve forgotten which day the sun & moon (& thus the earth’s 24hr day cycle) were created - it was on the 4th day, not the 3rd. He asked the audience as if he wasn’t sure they said the 3rd (see Gen 1:14-19). The 1st 4 days are in question as to their lengths (whether short or lasting eons). For even the 4th day ends w the 24hr cycle started. It could’ve taken God weeks or years to build the planets & suns/stars & start spinning them all in their orbits. So only day 5, 6, 7 & so on are set in 24hr cycles.
@rubennathaniel2107
@rubennathaniel2107 4 жыл бұрын
Saying that the sun & moon 'created' sun & moon on the 4th day is false. in the verse 16 the word 'made' is used obviously it was different to be meant compared to the word 'create' although The words are synonyms, but there are differences in the words and circumstances when it would be better to use one word over the other. 'Make' means to form something by putting parts together or combining substances, as in constructing something. For example: She made lemonade by mixing lemon juice with water and sugar. Along with that definition, it can also mean to cause something to come into existence or to formulate something. For example: If you join three lines together, it makes a triangle. ‘Create’ is a verb that means to bring something into existence or cause something new to exist. For example: He created this bookshelf all by himself. It can also have a less literal meaning, as in to bring about or cause a situation as a result of one’s actions. For example: He created this mix up, and now everyone is confused. In this sense, it is very similar to the word ‘make’, and is considered a synonym. While make can mean simply putting things together to construct something, it can mean to bring something new into existence as well. The difference in the usage of the words lies in the meaning of create to mean producing something new or original by using one’s talents, imagination or skill. For example: She created this masterpiece oil painting. Although ‘made’ could be used, it does not convey the same nuance of specialness or newness that ‘create’ does. This usage is the result of the etymology, or where the word came from. It came from the late Middle English and had the sense of forming something out of nothing, especially from a divine or supernatural being. This is in the sense we commonly use the related words ‘creation’ and ‘creature’ meaning things we believe that were brought into existence by God, or ‘created’. So with the Bible use both of the words, it is obvious that God are not 'creating' the sun and moon as something new that had never existed before and theres strong indication it could have been exist since verse 1
@richo40001
@richo40001 4 жыл бұрын
Now you raise some interesting points with references but i dont want to have this as a battle of winning. The biggest drive for science which is the basis of how most people are testing biblical text is based on not knowing. Scientists are constantly finding changes even in things that they had believed or prooved as they say to be profound. Now for me God has proven to be so big and for some reason i find our minds so shallow to grasp some of the things he has done. I agree to a very big degree that God has powered us with capacity to imagine some things for the sole purpose of us understanding that this is not for us to fully figure out but to know that He is just unbelievable in what he does or did. Now we seat to discuss what He did and how He did and we are constantly fighting how that is possible or not possible. For me the Grand question has always been, WHAT IS THE MEASURE BEING USED TO JUDGE IS INTERACT FOR US TO SAY IT IS POSSIBLE OR IMPOSSIBLE WHAT HE DID?
@peterlittlewood9810
@peterlittlewood9810 5 жыл бұрын
If the Bible is inspired by God, why does it need so much intervention by mere humans to explain what it means? All this convoluted analysis to say that some parts have to be taken exactly as written but others need somehow to be interpreted. Such divergent explanations by different people of the same faith. If this book truly was inspired by God, then it should be clear, compelling and unambiguous. So why is it so mysterious? Why would it need different accounts of the same events? Why would it cause more controversy than clarity? Why would it need talking snakes? The truth is that the Bible was written by men, assembled by men, with men deciding which parts of all the available literature went in and which didn't. I can accept that these men were inspired by their belief in God, but they also lived in human societies and were influenced by the prevailing norms and politics. There's quite a lot of politics in the Bible, by the way. Do Christians really challenge themselves on these issues?
@JV-jq4dt
@JV-jq4dt 3 жыл бұрын
Genesis 1:30 green herb was the food for birds
@jeremychannel333
@jeremychannel333 7 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoy listening too John Lennox, He is a mathematical genius & his p.o.v. I believe are vastly misunderstood; he is simply reaching out to observation on the creation process here & I believe emphasising on the matters of understanding that it's not a contest to know exact creation process but rather it is more divergent & factual that it is the truth & but yet we must know that we cannot fully comprehend God & his grace! Anything else is just speculation & conjecture & however, assuming that we know exactly how it became about to nonbelievers is room for error on our behalf because we don't fully truly understand it. We may know in scripture that one day to God is the equivalent of 1,000 years & but but can we assume that's the only answer to the beginning & creation process? It is very clever & brilliant to know that God created the Heavens & the earth & the first day whether it be the first 1,000 years or not? We must simply just know that the creation process; we may have to find the secrets from the Lord our God in heaven? If God wants us to fully know then he will make it so. Their is many questions & observations on how the process works whether we are at 6,000 years or whether it be far more & again only God Almighty hisself knows this.
@zerothehero187
@zerothehero187 6 жыл бұрын
Bollox ,what total mumbo jumbo bullshit ,see you in the 17th century
@joshuasy10
@joshuasy10 4 жыл бұрын
Yesssss
@chrisjones-rd8it
@chrisjones-rd8it 8 ай бұрын
why not both 13 billion years in the span of 6 days
@JWu-jt7fz
@JWu-jt7fz 4 жыл бұрын
12:48 I'm not a Hebrew scholar but I see "hawyah yom" is shown on Day 1 to 6. It is only missing on Day 7. Can someone assist me in this?
@ortwienweimans5035
@ortwienweimans5035 5 жыл бұрын
Goodmorning, iam a christian. I' ve red Gen.1 full, but didnot understood it that way. Please can you explaine verses 4 and 5
@bigowl9408
@bigowl9408 5 жыл бұрын
I challenged Richard Dawkins over his slur at God, where he said he would ask God if he ever met him. Why he so badly designed certain biological components and said it was Imposible to do in Six days. I then retorted by saying in a somewhat ireverant slant that I hope God forgives, where I said I would ask God what took him so long. Dawkins was naturally quite abusive in response.
@skuzaposkuzapo56
@skuzaposkuzapo56 5 жыл бұрын
If people have doubts the devil exists you just have to watch Dawkins in action when he comes unstuck on anything about God/the Bible/Christ/spirituality,etc. The man (and the late Hitchens and their fellow atheists) become literally abusive. first off they try put-downs, cutting humour and when that doesn't work, they then turn nasty and violent, almost. Of course the ever loving God could forgive them if only they genuinely repented but their spirit is awful, and Hitchens refused to the death (at least as far as the video-record goes) to repent, to apologise for a life of service to the evil one, insulting God at every given turn. I really feel sorry for these guys- while at the resurrection the saved will be smiling their way into the arms of the Saviour and eternity, they will be waking up to fear, regret and the horror of the awful choices they made [the 'forever' part which again the atheists try and use against God eg that hell fire burns forever when all it means is the lost will be burnt never to return again. There is no way a loving God would burn anyone forever, but they will be destroyed and never to return or ever be known again, so there is no fire that lasts forever- hell fire will be extinguished when the devil is completely destroyed] . Dawkins, just by being alive, still has a chance to repent and apologise for his actions, unlike a Hitchens who is now dead, having died in his defiant pride of hating and insulting a God he claimed never existed (unless he repented on his deathbed and God knows everything)! What gross foolishness!
@bigowl9408
@bigowl9408 5 жыл бұрын
@@skuzaposkuzapo56 I have seen Satan's spiteful power and if this ever happens to you? You are left in no doubt what those who have given their lives to God through Christ are up against. My epetiance was frightening to say the least and there hardly a day goes by since 1979 that I do not recall that unwelcome audience but God used him as Satan in his rage declared the existence of God as he shouted at me "How dare you call upon God" unquote. So yes Satan is very real and we walk amongst the spirits. We all need to take the spiritual world seriously but above all we need to take The Lord Jesus very seriously for what he wants from us.
@bluegtturbo
@bluegtturbo 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Dawkins is not a man to suffer fools gladly...
@EnricoJamesBerest
@EnricoJamesBerest 5 жыл бұрын
GBU Brother Lennox
@flatearthevidence8473
@flatearthevidence8473 5 жыл бұрын
A day can also be 1000 years.
@benantell5452
@benantell5452 5 жыл бұрын
Or 398789 years
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
that's not to be confused with the week God made everything
@D800Lover
@D800Lover 5 жыл бұрын
They are not literal days and Genesis is a sophisticated but not scientific document. In that respect it is accurate and lacks any extraneous embellishments, indeed it is written in a largely matter-of-fact way, no Hollywood. The word for "day" is "yom" and in Genesis alone has *FOUR DIFFERENT MEANINGS.* 1. The part of the day where we have daylight. 2. Creative days that can be understood as epochs in the sense my Great-Grandfather lived in a day without computers. 3. Actual 24 hour day. 4. The total six days of creation is spoken of as a "time" and the "day" with God's creative activity ended with man and woman. This kind of "yom" can be both definite and indefinite. There are many features of Genesis that have stood the test of time and even pre-dated modern science, such as fish in the sea preceded animals on dry land. The fact that the universe had a beginning and was not static the way that Einstein would have liked it. The two verses of Genesis shows that the formless earth and the universe already existed before the first day that starts in verse 3. We know this because all the days starts with "God spoke" or "commanded" - every day starts with this common expression and finishes with the same expression of an "evening" (to Hebrews the day ended and sun-down). *This expression is not used at the end of the "seventh day" because the seventh day has not finished.* According several passages in the Bible, it is clear that the seventh day was not a 24 hour day, rather in the time of the Apostles it was thousands of years. Paul writes in Hebrews 4 in an amphibious way that "the seventh day remains" and that Christians to get the promised "blessings" of the seventh day must leave selfish ways behind us, that only obedience to God will mean a future life because "God blessed the seventh day." *TAKE GENESIS SERIOUSLY AND YOU MIGHT START TO UNDERSTAND IT - YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND SOMETHING IF YOU RIDICULE IT.* .
@stanstevens6289
@stanstevens6289 5 жыл бұрын
However you spin it, its just complete nonsense and is to be taken no more seriously than any other creation myth.
@D800Lover
@D800Lover 5 жыл бұрын
@@stanstevens6289 - That is not true at all, but if one listens to evil whispers, then nothing gets understood. In fact a number of things in the Genesis account has only in recent times been proved true. Such as the universe had a beginning, even Einstein was proved wrong that the universe is 'static' and that it is expanding proves it had a beginning. Also life in the oceans preceded life on land, this was only understood recently, when in fact Genesis had already said that. Also consider this, there was not six days in Genesis, there is in fact *SEVEN* days and we are still in the *SEVENTH DAY,* hence the other six were not literal 24 hour days. The Hebrew word 'yom' has multiple meanings, just as in English the word 'day' has multiple meaning. Even the word 'today' often means the 'times' we are living in. The Genesis days are in fact 'times' or epochs - they are at least thousands of years each. There are more things that I can point out in Genesis that is in agreement with what we know today as correct, excepts a barrage of fake information has coloured the minds of people, many who have not even taken the effort to look at it probably. BTW, I do come from a science background through he research work I do. And think about this for a second, the theory of evolution was simply a biological theory on how biological life 'evolved' and does in fact not explain Abiogenesis, which is the question of how life started. Yet the huge majority are lead to believe that evolution explains how life started. Even Richard Dawkins admitted on camera that evolution does not explain that. Evolution has not explained everything, but many are mislead into believing that it does. For a fact, I speak the truth! Oh, one more thing, because of the crimes of religion, truth has for a long time been buried in the minds of people. Can you see that?
@katiecook1269
@katiecook1269 5 жыл бұрын
What I do not understand, why do atheists come on a Christian site. Why bother?
@superjam18
@superjam18 5 жыл бұрын
Jealous of people who have true peace, joy, and truth
@katiecook1269
@katiecook1269 5 жыл бұрын
@@superjam18 I agree. I think they are really searching for that peace, joy, truth, acceptance and most of all to be LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY!
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Morris commentary is very good
@dannymathis7275
@dannymathis7275 5 жыл бұрын
Here's a question i asked Dr. McCoy, When was water(s) created? Gen. 1:2 "....And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. " i find that very curious. i didn't get an answer. i don't think there is one.
@jpruhu7662
@jpruhu7662 5 жыл бұрын
I have always assumed from the text that the earth and universe creation was a seperate event from the creation event beginning in v.2. Given there being a war in heaven, the fall of Satan and the creation of man as an answer to sin (what we Adventists call the Great Controversy). Anywho, this system allows for the potential of both an old earth/universe and a young creation. Old rock young life.
@PhilisophicalDad
@PhilisophicalDad 4 жыл бұрын
its in the text. "in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth"... v2. and the earth......was
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
heresy reading into the text
@Homeoftheclan
@Homeoftheclan 5 жыл бұрын
You would have thought an all powerful god would have at least the intelligence to get his ‘ word ‘ to human beings without there being any interpretation required or having to rely on human scribes. Of course the harder god is to believe in the more glory for the followers.
@wjckc79
@wjckc79 5 жыл бұрын
Taking notes...
@PastorPeewee20
@PastorPeewee20 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have met many people who don't take this seriously! Seriously!
@JClovesAC
@JClovesAC 5 жыл бұрын
God is outside time, he created it. Every creation God Made is followed by: and it was morning and evening, the first day, the second day etc. When he created the animals in the sea and air and the vegetation, you know these living things cant live in days which last years but must be in hours. So if these creation acts are followed by: and it was morning and evening the Third day, the fourth day etc. why should there be any difference in time, while God excists outside time. I believe God explains us excactly what happend. Or it all is not relevant and He could indeed have Made the world in one instant: time is not relevant for God; the idea God Made things in time is only for us not for HIM. He Made time for us. ...
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 5 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't anyone show the idea that the days were added during the re-establishment of the temple after the captivity by the Priestly source.
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart Source Criticism is taught in nearly every major University in the world it has nothing to do with religion. .
@superjam18
@superjam18 5 жыл бұрын
Is that so?
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 5 жыл бұрын
@@superjam18 People that want to argue about the bible should have a good background in biblical studies. Right ?
@melvindomingo451
@melvindomingo451 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Earth was created before the Sun and stars? Don’t they know that our sun is a star itself? And where does the light came from when the sun was created on the 4th day?
@Dreammaster695
@Dreammaster695 3 жыл бұрын
The sun is a star and gives us light revelation mentions this also
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
The only time Dr Lennox has any trouble in any debate is when he gives credence to atheism. Jesus said in Matt 19:4 "...He that made them in the beginning made them male and female..." And so now we must doubt the meaning of another word in scripture. Does the beginning mean billions of years after the beginning? Does beginning mean the end? All because God obviously needed billions of years to get it right, eh? All because Christianity needed the theories of atheism to make biblical accuracy more logical? The first miracle Jesus did was to make water into aged wine. Did it take Him hundreds of years? Or did He do that because Creation was the first miracle of God and it was good. I love you Lennox but your explanation made no sense. It does, however, make atheists say "it's a start". You go from flawless to faulty and they only need a crack. Read Gen 1:14 and tell me that God was not giving us accuracy and not confusion.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart - There are atheists and then the are rational people. Agreed. 2 categories. Atheists are not rational. Atheists do not believe real science. Real science screams information is never random. Ever heard of DNA? Science screams life only comes from life. THERE IS ZERO proof otherwise. Everything atheism, naturalism builds the entire faith system of belief on the fantasy (more miraculous than anything in the Bible) that "nothing exploded and here we are". All the complexity, design, art, laws in science that are unimaginably exact (and most be for life and matter to continue) happened by accident, randomly without purpose. Atheism is truly the greatest and most extreme faith there is.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart Atheism is the greatest faith based belief system there is. Most scientists in the 18th and 19th centuries WERE believing Christian scientists you goon. You just don't study real science or where it comes from. Science- Information is never random. DNA anyone? Science- Life only comes from life. You have any PROOF otherwise?
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart - When people begin losing debates and have no rational argument they resort to name calling, the race card, non intellectual retorts. I gave you science. Information comes from intellect. That is science. There is zero evidence EVER to debate that. You keep your faith. I'll keep the real science. The pillars is atheistic theology depend upon fantasy, not science. Even Dawkins admits that. You should hear Dawkins explain what nothing really is in his fantasy world view. Hilarious.
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart - You say "faith is a mockery of logic and reason". It is only from God that logic and reason exist. Atheism, materialism, naturalism totally reject the concepts of love, justice, logic, reason, courage and anything meaningful. Why don't you prove what logic is? You can prove you have a brain, grey matter (tainted by the atheist school system as it is) but can you prove you have a mind? Logic? Reason? Everything you believe destroys itself. Your atheistic thoughts are cancerous. They eat each other. You've built a castle of cards with no cards. It won't even take a breeze to destroy it. Yet you try to use logic to build your argument? Really?
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
@Folk Aart - I don't believe in blind faith. I don't expect anyone else to. I don't think God expects them to either. God made the law of gravity, magnetism. He designed DNA, the butterflies wing, eyes, ears. You can mock Him all you want. There are hundreds of millions of colors that we know of. The octopus has 9 brains, one in its head and one at the base of each leg. You just display your ignorance. Mock away. I'm sure there are gnats that made fun of me 40 years ago.
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 4 жыл бұрын
I think god is ONE with three names.
@Dreammaster695
@Dreammaster695 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of.. although he has many names
@JV-jq4dt
@JV-jq4dt 3 жыл бұрын
Marc 12:27 He is not the God of dead, but the God of the living.
@krisbest7846
@krisbest7846 4 жыл бұрын
You have a book that makes guesses. You have stories that includes locations that exist or have existed. It condemns trivial things and ignore very horrendous norms. God needs rest?
@reclavea
@reclavea 4 жыл бұрын
Kris Best Rest with regard to an infinite God merely means “pause” or end. As with music notation ....”rest”
@anthonybardsley4985
@anthonybardsley4985 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in theistic evolution for sure.
@SamMathewC
@SamMathewC 5 жыл бұрын
so what was his final conclusion?
@berniefynn6623
@berniefynn6623 4 жыл бұрын
My NIV bible says THE first,second etc day.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
24 hr days just like he told everyone
@johnpinckney7269
@johnpinckney7269 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Lennox made a small mistake. The sun was created on day 4 not 3.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
doesnt matter. creation began with TIME SPACE MATTER
@arthurskay4744
@arthurskay4744 5 жыл бұрын
God is Spirit Jesus said, He can't be understood without the Holy Spirit's revelation and the Holy Spirit comes to those who accept Jesus Chist in their lives,so do this simple prayer: Father God I accept Jesus in my heart like my Lord and Savior" Amen.
@netelsg
@netelsg 5 жыл бұрын
What Gospel did Jesus preached? The true gospel talks about the Kingdom of God............. Luke 4:43 "I must preach the Kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose." ............... Luke 9:2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God,... Luke 16:16 Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached........... Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom (NOT the Bible; NOT Jesus; NOT his Resurrection nor the Cross) will be proclaimed throughout the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." ............. There's ONLY one true Gospel...that is the Kingdom of God. St. Paul preached the wrong gospel. Matt 24:14 show that the only true gospel that is to be proclaimed to all nations is gospel of the Kingdom of God. This proves that there is no new gospel and all other gospels other than Gospel of the Kingdom are fake. That means to say the gospel of Grace preached by Paul is fake.
@thruthebook
@thruthebook 6 жыл бұрын
How could Adam and Eve even know what God meant by death unless they saw it in the other creatures around them?
@superjam18
@superjam18 5 жыл бұрын
We have never seen hell people go to hell or hell itself but its best to believe God about it
@oregonpundit8278
@oregonpundit8278 5 жыл бұрын
He got the sequence wrong.
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a silly story. Evolution is clearly the way to go, it explains in details what happened, but you simply don’t get it that you got it all wrong. Many don’t seem to have the ability to recognize flawed myths
@popupoo7
@popupoo7 3 жыл бұрын
Evolution is nothing but a theory lol, it says it in the name and there's no real evidence that we evolved from monkies, and that's because all you say is "billions and millions of years ago" which is untraceable and comical. The bible is 99% accurate (KJV) Evolution is used by anti christians to 1. Decieve the world. 2. Decieve themselves LOL 3. Give the universe credit instead of God. You don't want to accept God made us because then that would mean everything in the bible is true and you'd have to follow it. Secondly, it would mean you would be going to hell for your sins if you don't repent. That is why people don't believe in God. Because they're stubborn and hard heartened. Come to Christ.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
Right. Billion and billions and billions: rock turns into a living thing. sorry but not even in trillions and gillions of years. Also a dot that appeared outta nowhere started spinning outta control LOL
@keitho9508
@keitho9508 5 жыл бұрын
Prof Lennox admits that he doesn't know for sure what is the meaning of Genesis 1. He then gives some thoughts and opinions. Of course, he is not the first to admit as much and only the young earth creationists are 'sure' that they know what it means and Prog Lennox would not share that view. But the astounding and important point is this: that the supposed author of the text (God) wrote something that, since science began to discover real truths about the creation, has been opaque to most theologians and laity. How does one explain such a failure to be able to convey truths except by admitting that God did not write it at all. Since it all bears the hallmarks of having been written by people who were ignorant of physical realities then it probably was.
@armandito9735
@armandito9735 6 жыл бұрын
You know, all you readers and youtube watchers like to see these videos, because they are Interesting and I myself like them a lot and most of all, most people say....WOW...I did not know that,..is that true?????...well I am a very hard person to convince, I don't believe anything I read, and hear. I give everything the benefit of the doubt, rather than say ...NNNAAAHHH! to something that some may say is so, I simply and diplomatically say ,..huhm..Interesting that person's opinion or Interpretation on something so far back in time like ...GENESIS..when there were no documentation, cameras or reporters. So,.....all these apologetics and scholars and teachers, whom I have a great deal of respect for, not because they say and think that it is so,.. and that's the way it happened ,....but..... because of their love for God and Jesus, and faith in Them. They talk and talk and talk as if everything is true, well,....they are probably so far from the truth that it becomes Interesting and exiting,....But ........we will never know the real ,whole truth,...while we are here on earth and alive,....once we die ....then.....we will find out the whole truth........if God wants us to.........Walter....386 847 5387.
@djf750
@djf750 5 жыл бұрын
We are made in the image and likeness of CHEETAH the chimp, not "god" which we cannot even imagine
@benantell5452
@benantell5452 5 жыл бұрын
Why try to work out this and that when you can ask God and get a reply right away? Holy Spirit has all the answers!
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 5 жыл бұрын
It is true that Holy Spirit has all the answers but He's not handing them out on 3 by 5 cards.
@benantell5452
@benantell5452 5 жыл бұрын
@@rubiks6 If you have the gift of discernment God will reply to any question. That is why I can travel anywhere i the world anytime when God tells me too, and heal the sick etc. in the name of Jesus. In the street, in hospitals or wherever he wants me to go. The message is very simple, it is all in the New Testament. Peace
@Mark-Stone
@Mark-Stone 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Antell great that you help sick people. Don’t sell yourself short though; it’s you doing it, not Jesus. Jesus is fictional.
@rubiks6
@rubiks6 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mark-Stone - Well, there you go. You spoke your foolishness out loud. Feel better now?
@Mark-Stone
@Mark-Stone 4 жыл бұрын
rubiks6 what’s foolish about speaking truth?
@johnhemrom6044
@johnhemrom6044 6 жыл бұрын
Hello
@bowerdw
@bowerdw 5 жыл бұрын
According to my meager research efforts the word shābat can be translated "celebrate." What if the use of the word "rest" is an assumption. What if on the "seventh" day God celebrated. After all does the sovereign God need to rest, especially since God consecrated ("qādash") the 7th day?
@redfaux74
@redfaux74 5 жыл бұрын
Rest doesn't mean you need a break. It means you take a break. Stopping work. You may NEED to test. But no, God is not exhausted and never was.
@janerussell3472
@janerussell3472 5 жыл бұрын
every thinking person has to ask the question, "does the present explanation of the birth of the planet and it's development make sense?" did thea smash into the Earth at a 45 degree angle and the fragments coalesce into our Moon? if so, the tides would be 1000 times stronger at that time. the days were 6 hours long because the Earth was spinning faster. [ from analysis of coral dated at 400 myo.] one question to ask is where all the water came from. and why it didn't steam off into space? does it all add up, seismically and evolutionary? i don't say we need to have all the answers. but for self-conscious creatures to arrive to ask these very questions needs an explanation. it's a cinch dinosaurs weren't asking these questions, despite a supposed 165 million ancestry. how could higher lifeforms survive asteriods, volcanism, giant eruptions ( like yellowstone 640,000 years ago ) and massive earthquakes and the crust splitting? 99.99% of life that has existed has gone extinct. there are suggestions that in sub-Saharan Africa even human numbers dropped as low as 2,000 people, for perhaps as long as 100,00 years. [ Behar DM, Villems R, Soodyall H, et al. (May 2008). ] or eight, if you read the Bible. did we develop from a proto- plasmic blob as life went on a random walk? are they making monkeys out of us?
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 5 жыл бұрын
Vain imaginations......
@natdrake2952
@natdrake2952 4 жыл бұрын
Gap theory????
@remieres
@remieres 6 жыл бұрын
Without the sun being there the plants die in a long period day. You have to do mental gymnastics to stretch the passages to say these things. You can't just build your whole argument on what isn't said.
@nightjar2586
@nightjar2586 6 жыл бұрын
R Canadian. Someone once told me that plants can survive a day without sun, as the sun was hung in the sky the day after. True, but without sun the earth would still be too cold to support them. I've got a lot of crazy answers from young earth creationists.
@nightjar2586
@nightjar2586 6 жыл бұрын
Here's another one: before the fall supposed all living things were vegetarians. Also, there was no death. If there was no death, we couldn't have possibly had the same kind of "flesh and blood" perishable bodies that we have now. If so, why would we have to had eaten at all?
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
@@nightjar2586 I'm guess Adam hasnt eaten from the Tree of Life ?
@patrickparker8417
@patrickparker8417 6 жыл бұрын
Read Exodus 20 .
@marybuford5414
@marybuford5414 5 жыл бұрын
I day or in billion...so what. rest on the seventh. take a break. Moses was walking out of slavery. Ya know, I can't help but notice that.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
Moses also never made it to the promised land
@thetherorist9244
@thetherorist9244 5 жыл бұрын
Hey...Mr Lennox...who wrote Genesis?? what is HIS NAME?
@horsesense6173
@horsesense6173 5 жыл бұрын
Genesis does not disturb me. Frankly, nothing in the Bible disturbs me.
@truethinker221
@truethinker221 5 жыл бұрын
You should read Judges ch 4 . It will give you a head ache.
@markjosemanders9778
@markjosemanders9778 3 жыл бұрын
people prove they are no good god proves he is not omnipotent proof that god does not exist
@33333guitarman
@33333guitarman 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly just found this frustrating as a Christian. It didn't help me to feel more sure or certain, but made uneasy..
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 6 жыл бұрын
That means you have some more work to do. Thing is you're never going to run out of questions. Questions are what makes life interesting. The thing about Christianity is a 6 year old can Get It and a (in my case) 70 year old still has questions, not about the Big Thing (the Resurrection) but the secondary things. "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" Paul One man's opinion, freely given, and worth ALMOST that much.
@onestepaway3232
@onestepaway3232 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you presume to have a complete answer? Is such a thing possible, yes, only if you have all knowledge. As a finite being, that is not possible. So everything we accept, is wrapped with some level of assumption. Question you assumptions not your knowledge because knowledge comes from God.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 5 жыл бұрын
?
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
God told you how he did it; even a child would understand: A week.
@katherinethacker4263
@katherinethacker4263 5 жыл бұрын
Stephan satan is a who not a what. He is a fallen angel named Lucifer. GOD is GOD , HE always was and always will be. HE is creator of everything. His attributes are love, just, merciful , he is holy, all knowing, omnipresence and omnipotent. We please HIM by our faith in Him.When man disobeyed and sinned came into the world, because GOD IS HOLY , Adam and Eve lost their direct contact with HIM. GOD had plan to redeem mankind and at the appointed time in history GOD sent HIS only begotten son, JESUS to pay the price for our sins. HE DIED ON a cross was buried and rose from the dead was seen by hundreds of people besides HIS disciples. . To be saved one must repent of their sins and asked JESUS TO be Lord and savior of your life . JESUS said "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me John 14:6. John 3:16. For GOD so loved the World , that he gave HIS only begotten so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. I only know that heaven is where GOD is. We are not told. JESUS said I go to prepare a place . read John 14:1-3. I hope I have been some help. More questions just ask, hopefully I can answer them
@ignacemangar5653
@ignacemangar5653 5 жыл бұрын
in the great gospel of John revealed by jesus to Jacob Lorber Jesus do not ally to the account of genesis from Moise and talked of 6 periods of evolution of the earth.each period goes from thousands of years,the logic of Jesus and further accounts of themes which concerns humanity was discussed in detail and profoundly by him and put in manuscripts but got burnt or lost leaving us with a bible which is a compilsation of some 50 books(not exact) Try to read the great gospel of john as the truth is there-www.new-revelations.net
@kescho24
@kescho24 4 жыл бұрын
OMG
@poukhingangmei3093
@poukhingangmei3093 7 жыл бұрын
what does john lennox say about the worldwide flood?
@caustixsoda8125
@caustixsoda8125 6 жыл бұрын
There was a worldwide flood and fossils prove it. I kinda agree with him. The Bible doesn't teach 6x 24hr days.
@Hesheli27
@Hesheli27 3 жыл бұрын
@@caustixsoda8125 How does it not. People are obviously trying to fit old earth into the text.
@noobsaibot5285
@noobsaibot5285 5 жыл бұрын
6,000 years of genealogy in the Bible. God didn't inspire man to write all of it down for no reason. It is part of God's story and he doesn't want it to be perverted. The universe is not old. Look at the evidence.
@hectortorres5572
@hectortorres5572 4 жыл бұрын
The word god, is to me, the unrrefutable fact that the person who said it, is part of the worst that damages the only thinking beings. God is an idea, mentioned by the hollow heads. Not more..god is man made..
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