John Piper’s Response to Trump’s Victory | Ep 1098

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Allie Beth Stuckey

Allie Beth Stuckey

Күн бұрын

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@p.ram24
@p.ram24 13 күн бұрын
Allie! After 6 years of waiting and waiting and WAITING, I'm finally pregnant! We found out 2 days after Trump's victory! Praying for a healthy baby. ❤ You alone have taught me so many Biblical truths during this journey. I feel so equipped for motherhood, and that is largely thanks to you!
@qwnpngwn672
@qwnpngwn672 13 күн бұрын
Congratulations! That's awesome! ❤
@lindasteinbrenner8065
@lindasteinbrenner8065 13 күн бұрын
That is awesome news!!! So happy for you! Yes, you will be a wonderful Mom. ❤❤❤❤
@kimberlykopsho2070
@kimberlykopsho2070 13 күн бұрын
Congratulations 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@res6769
@res6769 13 күн бұрын
@@p.ram24 woohoo, that is great news
@lizpetruzzi7700
@lizpetruzzi7700 13 күн бұрын
Congratulations!!!! Love this for you 😁😁💕
@anordeng
@anordeng 12 күн бұрын
Unlike John Piper, I will give thanks to God for delivering us from evil.
@Maranatha1927
@Maranatha1927 10 күн бұрын
Trump can not make the US great again. America is already under judgment. It is too late to go back and fix things now. Empires rise and empires fall and asking God to bless America in her current state is farcical. The same God who allowed Israel to be wiped off the map is not going to save an even more decadent America. If God would not stop the Goths and the Vandals from sacking Rome in the 5th century, why should He stop the ongoing sack of America in the 21st? Most people do not realize God's been lifting His hand away for years. Nor do they see the multifaceted aspect and length of God’s judgment. It's important to understand the signs of judgment. Romans 1:18-32 is really a summary of this nation and what's happening because as people worship the creature rather than the Creator, God turns them over to their own devices. John Mac Arthur summed it up well when he said, "When you see a nation deep in sexual sin, pervasively affirming of homosexuality, abortion, and the insanity of a reprobate mind, where they make laws to criminalize righteousness and to legalize gross evil, you know that nation's under judgment.” Expect things to intensify in the years ahead. God’s love is warning us to be prepared spiritually and on a practical level for unparalleled destruction is coming. We can bemoan our nations free fall or like Habakuk, each of us can resolve that no matter what happens in America we will be able to say, “Though the fig tree does not bud and no fruit is on the vines, though the olive crop fails and the fields produce no food, though the sheep are cut off from the fold and no cattle are in the stalls, yet I will exult in the Lord, I will rejoice in the God of my salvation” Hab. 3:17,18.
@MJBfromWilloughby
@MJBfromWilloughby 9 күн бұрын
@@anordeng He already did through His only begotten son dying for us
@Mando-d4k
@Mando-d4k 9 күн бұрын
@@MJBfromWilloughby. Oh, so you’re saying embracing evil is ok because God has already defeated it? Great.
@raysalmon6566
@raysalmon6566 9 күн бұрын
we are not delivered from evil
@MikeStoverII
@MikeStoverII 9 күн бұрын
@@MJBfromWilloughby When God's only begotten Son died for us on the cross and He was risen three days later that was His sacrifice for our sins. In one sense you can say that He delivered us from evil but that doesn't mean He stops delivering us from evil. There's several examples in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Christ of God delivering His believers from evil. There's a lot of examples in church history all the way to current events of God delivering us from evil. Let us celebrate that Jesus Christ died on the cross and was resurrected. Let us give praise and glory to God for the cross and Christ's resurrection. Let us also praise and glorify God for delivering us from evil today. There is no scripture that counters the idea of praise and glorifying God today. There is plenty of scriptures that encourages us to praise and glorify God.
@timothyscott9242
@timothyscott9242 12 күн бұрын
When I voted for Trump, I was not voting for a preacher or Pastor! I was voting for someone to lead our country in the best way forward!
@rickspalding3047
@rickspalding3047 12 күн бұрын
I agree, his inflammatory rhetoric needs some work
@caribanna
@caribanna 11 күн бұрын
God had requirements for who should be a king. I don’t see anything wrong with Piper wanting someone to meet certain moral requirements. After all America calls herself a Christian nation.
@worship1118
@worship1118 11 күн бұрын
@@caribanna King Solomon, King David.. and others were people of perfect character up to the time of being appointed... Or should we celebrate the perfect King of Kings, Jesus and when we look at man.. we vote based on the lesser of two evils, and who will likely promote causes more in line with Christianity.. This last election was a no brainer for most, that's why Trump won the popular vote.
@rickspalding3047
@rickspalding3047 11 күн бұрын
​@caribanna that's the problem, look at all the president's of the last 60 years, all had moral issues, maybe 3 president's get a pass.
@milakuzmanic3313
@milakuzmanic3313 11 күн бұрын
@@caribanna So can you explain to me why God called David a man after his own heart? A man who slept with another man's wife, then tried to pass his child to that man and when that failed - HE MURDERED him to cover up his crime.
@brianholland5447
@brianholland5447 12 күн бұрын
It may be a hard pill to swallow, but a lot of the big name celebrity pastors are better off just being ignored at this point.
@Stacyaj10
@Stacyaj10 12 күн бұрын
Agreed
@amystrickland6876
@amystrickland6876 12 күн бұрын
100%
@cheryldavidson-Godandguitars1
@cheryldavidson-Godandguitars1 12 күн бұрын
Yup
@cranmer1959
@cranmer1959 12 күн бұрын
Exactly. The Bible is the final authority, not stupid celebrity preachers.
@patrickhanly7458
@patrickhanly7458 12 күн бұрын
Indeed
@samiam210
@samiam210 13 күн бұрын
Unless Christ is on the ballot, a Christian is always forced to vote between the lesser of two evils. Donald Trump is not the moral figure I hope for in a leader, but I would have walked across broken glass to vote for him in this last election. Also, I put my hope in Christ, not a politician. What is piper saying? Christians should not participate in elections to influence the direction of the county or to protect their interests????
@j.arelylopez3053
@j.arelylopez3053 13 күн бұрын
Pipers post was sort of vague. Idk if he is saying trump is evil , or that there’s still evil in the world, what “evil “ is he talking about? But yes I agree with you. I think wise Christian’s know we don’t put our faith an a candidate and no candidate in the past or in the future will ever be perfect or I would go as far to say no candidate in the future will ever please ALL Christian’s.
@vitormenezesdemattos967
@vitormenezesdemattos967 12 күн бұрын
John piper and other "nice" christians asking children of God to not vote in an election such as this, are pretty much in a hypothetical paralel scenario telling jews not to vote bc Cyrus, a gentile unbeliever who helped the jews, was running against Jezebel. If in this scenario jezebel won, all the evil we saw her doing in the bible would be also on them, but if she lost... the good that'd come would be no thanks to them. As Mark driscoll pointed out: "You can't as a christian tell other christians not to do EVERYTHING in their power to keep jezebel off the throne". That's not "loving your enemy", is betraying your friends.
@roycevanblaricome634
@roycevanblaricome634 12 күн бұрын
Not true. Unless you're calling the Christians that have been elected "evil". You're willingness to shred your feet with broken glass for Trump is enough to convince there's no reason to say anymore. And no, I don't believe that's what Piper is saying at all. At least you made it a question and didn't sin by making a false accusation and bearing false witness. (Pro. 6:16-19)
@staceyforehand9513
@staceyforehand9513 12 күн бұрын
​​@@roycevanblaricome634overton window shifted, the evil they would have done has been postponed, veterans sacrifice is unappreciated by kissinger and his ilk, not sure how you think child mutilation is ok, Abortion in 3ird trimester, pride parades where men show their junk to kids without shame, was on the ballot, catch and release criminals, traffickingdrugs and humans across the border, look at the drug zombies in harris town san francisco😮 men in women's sports and much more.
@josephpchajek2685
@josephpchajek2685 12 күн бұрын
No you wouldn't have.
@scrawberryshawtcake
@scrawberryshawtcake 12 күн бұрын
I’m 28 years old and voted for Trump this year after voting for Hillary in 2016 and not voting at all in 2020, thinking there were no good candidates. You, Candace Owens, and Charlie Kirk - and of course Jesus Christ!! - were instrumental in changing my perspective on so many things. You guys are truly doing God’s work!
@WeeTh3people1776
@WeeTh3people1776 11 күн бұрын
Are you not hearing what this woman is saying? I’m not sure if you ment to say “I voted for Kamala” bc this woman is asking us to “rethink” our choice if we voted for Trump!! JMO
@scrawberryshawtcake
@scrawberryshawtcake 11 күн бұрын
@@WeeTh3people1776 what?
@scrawberryshawtcake
@scrawberryshawtcake 11 күн бұрын
@@WeeTh3people1776 what?
@Kurtsg10
@Kurtsg10 9 күн бұрын
Glad to see another Hillary to Trump voter! Although I'll admit that I proudly voted for Trump in 2020 so I skipped over your step there.
@ifeifesi
@ifeifesi 7 күн бұрын
I'm surprised that Christians are still listening to Candace Owens an anti Semite and supporter of Andrew Tate
@Anonymous99997
@Anonymous99997 12 күн бұрын
Mike Huckabee as the Ambassador to Israel is big reason to celebrate Trump’s victory.
@discipleshipmartialarts1861
@discipleshipmartialarts1861 10 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@MJBfromWilloughby
@MJBfromWilloughby 9 күн бұрын
@@Anonymous99997 how do you feel about homosexuality being legal in Israel?
@talyalazarlibi4456
@talyalazarlibi4456 13 күн бұрын
I unapologetically celebrate! I am so glad Trump is president and Jesus is still King
@TrangNguyen-vc3yk
@TrangNguyen-vc3yk 12 күн бұрын
Well said. “Trump is President, and Jesus is KING”!!!
@MJBfromWilloughby
@MJBfromWilloughby 12 күн бұрын
Will you rejoice if Trump becomes a dictator and demand that you turn in your friends, neighbors, family members and loved ones who oppose him?
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@MannyGomez-i7y
@MannyGomez-i7y 12 күн бұрын
As a Pastor I was praying for Trump to win and I thank the Lord for America’s victory.
@Jesusiscoming24
@Jesusiscoming24 11 күн бұрын
Hopefully he does not divide Israel God will hit America hard .. Joel 3.2
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@DD-xf1yd
@DD-xf1yd 12 күн бұрын
In practical terms, imagine this scenario: You have a Tub/Shower Drain that's severely clogged. Every time you shower, your Tub becomes filled with water, up to your shins. You keep calling the same Plumber, who's very polite and respectful to you, each time he visits, but the drain never clears, and the problem is never fixed...no matter how much you pay the kind Plumber. Finally, in exasperation, you hire another Plumber, who happens to be impolite and uncouth....but he finally clears your drain, and now your whole family can shower properly. Do you think you'd be rejoicing? Yes! Does it mean you worship the Plumber, or his offensive personality traits? No! We're rejoicing that the water's flowing properly, and we can get clean!
@iceman4928
@iceman4928 12 күн бұрын
Maybe the issue is that the second plumber is an articulate, masculine hunk, my wife gets all happy around him, and this makes me jealous.
@myhappyspace4533
@myhappyspace4533 12 күн бұрын
To tell you the truth, that first plumber is actually extremely cruel and evil. He just hid it well.
@DunamisSword
@DunamisSword 12 күн бұрын
I use the analogy of being in need of a life-saving surgery: First surgeon has a "Piper approved" moral character, but his success rate is about 45%. The second surgeon (and there's only two to choose from in this analogy) has a personality identical to Donald Trump, but his success rate is 100%. John Piper would subject his loved one (or perhaps himself) to the risk of the first one just to satisfy his (sinful) self-righteousness and pride. He IS in pride, and he needs to repent. Period.
@cranmer1959
@cranmer1959 12 күн бұрын
@@iceman4928 Do you trust your wife?
@starfernandez314
@starfernandez314 12 күн бұрын
😂
@MissGreenTeaLady
@MissGreenTeaLady 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for giving "permission" for us to celebrate! I really needed to hear it. I'm from a blue state and it feels so isolating to be one of the few people celebrating. It's weird to be happy in the midst of everyone else thinking the world is going to end.
@reginaford8575
@reginaford8575 12 күн бұрын
You have hope!! We are pilgrims and strangers with a wonderful shepherd!!! I am celebrating!!
@akdjh1
@akdjh1 12 күн бұрын
same here. actually, that's one reason I'm contemplating going to the inauguration because I can't imagine how thrilling it would be to be in a huge crowd of like-minded people!
@kimmiller4762
@kimmiller4762 11 күн бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly! I live in the people's Republic of Oregon, lol!
@akdjh1
@akdjh1 11 күн бұрын
@kimmiller4762 me too!
@ginagonzalez8923
@ginagonzalez8923 11 күн бұрын
Im in WA State..we literally are the only state in the country that went MORE BLUE 😭i love this state but hate the political leanings my husband and i are seriously contemplating moving
@sandywong1959
@sandywong1959 12 күн бұрын
I’m Canadian 🇨🇦 and I’m celebrating! Thankful for Trump’s win… the people of the US have spoken very loudly!! God has been merciful and gracious!! Now there’s a window of real opportunity to move forward for life and liberty!! Now for Canadians to speak loudly as well!!
@notmyrealname2592
@notmyrealname2592 10 күн бұрын
Amen! Praying for 🇨🇦
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@metaphoricallyspeaking45
@metaphoricallyspeaking45 5 күн бұрын
Sadly to equate Canadians with Trump is egregious. You, have fallen to a cult political system that is not Christlike at all.
@kathya8421
@kathya8421 12 күн бұрын
Allie, you are a fine example of CRITICAL thinking. You rock, girl. Keep up the good work.
@jennifergrizzaffi9578
@jennifergrizzaffi9578 10 күн бұрын
I celebrate and praise my Lord who has shown us tremendous mercy! 🎉🙏🏻💖
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@AmandaGrimes-e2h
@AmandaGrimes-e2h 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Allie Beth for always speaking the truth so beautifully.
@Wben113
@Wben113 12 күн бұрын
Ally, you have such a great command of the English language. Without using words that people don't understand. A real gift. Thanks for what you do.
@Jenabelovedofjesus
@Jenabelovedofjesus 12 күн бұрын
Yes!
@lynetter6850
@lynetter6850 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this beautiful Veteran's Day tribute!
@kimtate2285
@kimtate2285 12 күн бұрын
I am SO SO disappointed in John Piper😢 the lack of discernment in many Christians amazes me 😬
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@trinity6180
@trinity6180 12 күн бұрын
I live in Nevada. Thank you for recognizing Sam Brown. I hope he runs for another office in my state. He is a great man.
@julieredmond5192
@julieredmond5192 12 күн бұрын
Good respectful rebuttal to John Piper.
@HalleluYAH-b5d
@HalleluYAH-b5d 22 сағат бұрын
He needs to be confronted before he leads himself into destruction.
@jillcolvin4196
@jillcolvin4196 12 күн бұрын
We've been given four more years to spread the Gospel - Praise God! Praying for liberals to recognize the bankruptcy of politics and realize a hunger for THE TRUTH of the Gospel.
@thethreeofus2620
@thethreeofus2620 12 күн бұрын
Something off about Piper... and his 2020 take on the election was just stupid.
@CarolDee61
@CarolDee61 12 күн бұрын
He’s got a biblical view that doesn’t always resonate, for sure.
@thethreeofus2620
@thethreeofus2620 12 күн бұрын
His view is not biblical, its naive.​@@CarolDee61
@FLUPP_NUTS
@FLUPP_NUTS 12 күн бұрын
Wayne Grudem wrote a response article to John Piper’s 2020 message. I highly encourage everyone to read it!
@pbmechura
@pbmechura 12 күн бұрын
Was what his take on 2020 election?
@thethreeofus2620
@thethreeofus2620 12 күн бұрын
Dont vote for trump because he is arrogant. Arrogance leads to abortion. Therefore trump is as evil as Democrats who slaughter nine month old babies coming down the birth canal. That was the logic of his imbecilic article.​@@pbmechura
@violettarosa2498
@violettarosa2498 12 күн бұрын
Thank you so much , AIlie Beth. I am celebrating Christ, who is on the throne, seated at the father right hand. who loves his children deeply and praises him wholeheartedly and heard our cry for righteousness and justice, and mercy over our nation families, who directed us to do what was right, threw prayer, Praises unto God .
@MH-zq4nl
@MH-zq4nl 8 күн бұрын
I have always felt a check in my spirit about John Piper.
@Mando-d4k
@Mando-d4k 12 күн бұрын
God supports life. Piper embraces death. I have asked him repeatedly “Can you please clarify your statement: “Christians communicate a falsehood to unbelievers…when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person.” After all, what is a few million pre-born murders here and there? And freedom? An antiquated concept, right?” Life is precious. 500,000 dead in Ukraine. 12,000 and rising in Palestine/Israel. Countless abortions that WE are now paying for. The world in flames. Piper literally said he prefers death over Trump. I cannot, and will not, let this outrage slide. You can tell he was serious: has he said one word about Biden’s support and payment of abortion? One word about Biden’s funding of life-extinguishing wars?
@sofoniasgonzalez3615
@sofoniasgonzalez3615 12 күн бұрын
You have to realize , if you are Christian , the only one that can change a man is God no man , no laws enacted by man can do that and Christian are called to be light to the ungodly and Christ was the guide how to do it . Nowadays Christians light is so dim that people can’t see it therefore there is no real reason for them to believe in God since Christian’s behave just like the ungodly.
@sherrihamptonmusic
@sherrihamptonmusic 12 күн бұрын
Exactly right. He (Piper) has lost all relevance.
@voiceone4715
@voiceone4715 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely right, based on his own words, Piper has missed the mark and needs to repent.
@HalleluYAH-b5d
@HalleluYAH-b5d 22 сағат бұрын
Piper will get what he asks for..
@CognitiveDissident-d3j
@CognitiveDissident-d3j 12 күн бұрын
John Piper and Max Lucado have become the most milquetoast Christian voices in our sphere (and out). Meekness is not weakness.
@HalleluYAH-b5d
@HalleluYAH-b5d 22 сағат бұрын
In this case it is...he is soft and woke
@elizabethbrowning5833
@elizabethbrowning5833 12 күн бұрын
I so much appreciate all of you young podcasters who's keeping the truth out there I am now 70 years old as of November 4th my youngest grandchild is 20 and they listen to Charlie Kirk and all of you and I thank God for the voices of truth that God has raised up in this generation God bless you young lady keep up the good❤ work
@caseyf5104
@caseyf5104 13 күн бұрын
I see how hard you worked through this election season. Thank you for your dedication to what is good, right, and true. Especially the advocation of the unborn. You are appreciated!
@USAR8888
@USAR8888 12 күн бұрын
This Christian is unapologetically ecstatic about this election result! As all who care about the future of our kids and grandkids should be.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@Mrmarina333
@Mrmarina333 11 күн бұрын
“When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭29‬:‭2‬ ‭ESV‬‬
@earthangel2590
@earthangel2590 11 күн бұрын
Very appropriate and appreciated scripture! 😊
@christianmama2441
@christianmama2441 9 күн бұрын
@Mrmarina333 You mean to tell me Trump is righteous without knowing Jesus Christ? What about the fact he is a serial adulterer? Who are you kidding here?
@operadivasmom1
@operadivasmom1 10 күн бұрын
Thank you, Allie. You are blessed by God with wisdom. I thank the Lord for His mercy to us in this election. May we use the time we have to give the Gospel and bring Him glory in all we do. ❤
@mariadomingo3723
@mariadomingo3723 11 күн бұрын
Rejoicing and soo grateful!!!!
@myheartHislove
@myheartHislove 13 күн бұрын
Of course, we dont care when you're remote. I like it when things aren't polished perfectly....because truth is, none of us are anyways 😉 and I just really appreciate your podcasts every time - wherever and wherever you do them❣️😊🙏🙏🙏
@frepar
@frepar 12 күн бұрын
I rather listen only than watch and listen. I have always been that way
@moe8282-jag
@moe8282-jag 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for standing on the side of TRUTH. This country truly needs light & salt at every turn.
@wiekhiongwong548
@wiekhiongwong548 12 күн бұрын
It's so sad to see John Piper becoming more and more and more self-righteous.
@tomharmon5198
@tomharmon5198 12 күн бұрын
Calvinist leaders tend to lean pharisaical in my opinion
@addjoaprekobaah5914
@addjoaprekobaah5914 12 күн бұрын
That’s unfair. You know all Calvinist leaders?
@bettyboop4634
@bettyboop4634 12 күн бұрын
I have always found Pipers way of preaching a tad to emotional for my liking. I prefer the expository teaching of McArthur. I am not saying I agree with everything he says, but he is always able to at least point to scripture for his views.
@MissGreenTeaLady
@MissGreenTeaLady 12 күн бұрын
I feel like he's been this way for a while. Definitely not surprised by this take from him.
@SafeSpaceInc
@SafeSpaceInc 12 күн бұрын
Piper is a hypocritical virtue signaler. Nauseating.
@judypeters6871
@judypeters6871 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for your voice. Yes, I am still celebrating too!!
@jadude119
@jadude119 8 күн бұрын
I actually appreciate Piper's Comments. Too many Christians idolizing Trump and the Republican Party... It's not of God. Christian - Stay true to your KING no matter what! Even the Israelites wanted a King instead of God to lead them, we should be very weary about putting too much faith in a man with a track record like Trump. We should be grieved that these two are the only ones, out of this WHOLE country that we had to vote for, I think that says a lot about the state of the spiritual health of our country right now....
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Amen!
@beckymccollum-mccrea5793
@beckymccollum-mccrea5793 4 күн бұрын
Thank you Allie for lifting my spirits today! You've been equipped to express what I would like to be able to say. Thank you for your research and intelligence to share my feelings and stand on these issues. God bless you!💗
@KellyElizabeth1
@KellyElizabeth1 7 күн бұрын
I don’t have an hour to listen to this now (although I will and often do), however, I must defend pastor and theologian, John Piper for his remarks regarding the election results. He is spot on!!! Although Piper has said much about his lack of support for Trump, he does not endorse the other side either. We have exchanged one evil for another and if you cannot see that, you are quite naive. You certainly have liberty to weigh the options and arrive at your conclusion to vote one way or the other but to not recognize the evil of which John Piper speaks is quite obstinate. I believe it was Piper that did not vote in 2020 and his comment regarding this most recent election speaks to the fact that Jesus is the ultimate king and Donald Trump isn’t the savior of culture. I do pray for him and his cabinet picks as all Christians should but we are free to discern when Trump is veering in the ditch and should not hesitate to call it out. I think what is so disarming and troubling for many Christ followers including myself, is when Trump supporters cannot speak out against anything he says or does politically, personally, or in his official role as president. It makes many of us wonder what kind of spell, cult, or delusion you’ve fallen for when there is zero objectivity. That blindness is completely un-Relatable.
@akdjh1
@akdjh1 12 күн бұрын
Kudos to you for bolding speaking about the election and the need for Christians to be involved. You are one of the few, actually, I can't think of anyone else, who is such a strong believer and unabashedly celebrating Trump's win!
@mrcfuldeeds
@mrcfuldeeds 12 күн бұрын
Way to go, Allie. I consistently find your discernment helpful even when it comes to respectfully confronting other Christians about wrongful thinking. I will never understand the absolute hatred for Trump, but his policies help people and that's what we need. Praise God for this extra measure of grace to help as we fight the fight of faith.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@Andsol9930
@Andsol9930 12 күн бұрын
Thanks Allie on this! I agree! The ending of this video addressing Parr, Piper… so important! You are soo right.
@michaelduplessis413
@michaelduplessis413 12 күн бұрын
Allie I appreciate your content, you are so smart & knowledgeable, and your love for God, country & people is a breath of fresh air
@mo31993
@mo31993 13 күн бұрын
You’re saying Nevada correctly! Thank you Allie!!!!!❤
@ringonordstrom692
@ringonordstrom692 12 күн бұрын
Nevaaaaaaaada, not Navauda.
@RandallHodge
@RandallHodge 12 күн бұрын
Most people try not to say it at all.
@deannmiller4758
@deannmiller4758 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for your extreme clarity!!
@reginaford8575
@reginaford8575 12 күн бұрын
I am happy too. Rejoicing with you!!
@res6769
@res6769 13 күн бұрын
Wow, John Piper has gone off the deep end.
@kendrarichardson8811
@kendrarichardson8811 13 күн бұрын
I went to his church for probably 6-7 years and came here to say this 👆🏼 he has gone off the deep end! He was not like this when he was preaching at Bethlehem. He wrote an article about how we are being distracted and not worshipping God solely in church because we bring coffee in with us…
@JubeeBijou
@JubeeBijou 13 күн бұрын
I’m not surprised with John Piper at all.
@PoirotFanGirl
@PoirotFanGirl 13 күн бұрын
Piper has been off the rails for a very long time, ppl are just finally waking up
@ScottAlanBecker38
@ScottAlanBecker38 13 күн бұрын
He can shove it. MacArthur isn't much better.
@JubeeBijou
@JubeeBijou 12 күн бұрын
@@ScottAlanBecker38 What did JMac say?
@tonyaprim3047
@tonyaprim3047 12 күн бұрын
I agree with your use of the term "gender-deceived" because it best describes the situation.
@Minako808
@Minako808 12 күн бұрын
Well said Allie Beth well said Thankyou !
@jann0626
@jann0626 10 күн бұрын
Allie Beth, you are one of the best communicators I have heard on this topic, thank you so much for pointing out these important topics for people to think about. I am thrilled that you are a younger woman speaking out. May the Lord give you a very large following! 🙏🏻
@debbiefocht1907
@debbiefocht1907 13 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Allie! Blessings
@missbhavenvanwinkle7859
@missbhavenvanwinkle7859 12 күн бұрын
Thank-you brave lady!! 👏👏
@ginavaughan5684
@ginavaughan5684 12 күн бұрын
My husband and I are praising God for the Trump/Vance Victory!!! We believe God heard ALL THE PEOPLES prayers and saved OUR great nation from a Harris/Walz regime!!!!
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@robertawinters9366
@robertawinters9366 13 күн бұрын
God's blessings from Bay City Michigan
@pamelaburback9279
@pamelaburback9279 13 күн бұрын
Celebrating with you, Allie! Let's stop with the self-censoring, which is a holdover from the last four years.Good podcast. From a grandma. :-)
@Marie1991-zq3kv
@Marie1991-zq3kv 12 күн бұрын
I recently watched a video with you and Charlie Kirk. Really enjoyed it. Thank you or standing up for your faith and morals.
@fmezzanotte2964
@fmezzanotte2964 8 күн бұрын
Where is the response of J. Piper?
@welshie2007
@welshie2007 Күн бұрын
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@viji8jr4
@viji8jr4 20 сағат бұрын
Great message!! Well said!
@kmsongbird
@kmsongbird 13 күн бұрын
I'm THRILLED TO DEATH about the outcome of this election! And pretty surprised about Piper's comment, actually. Did he listen to all Trump's many many podcast conversations? Trump used to "disgust" me when he spoke. At all. This time around, however, I listened for CONTENT and was pretty much converted to understand his heart on matters. I do believe that God is using him, putting him in place here, but it's as much in order to drain the swamp and allow for brilliant minds with integrity to be placed into positions of leadership. That is my prayer for all the great team of people Trump is surrounding himself with this time around. We voted for issues, not a person this time, and Donald Trump "gets" the most important issues.
@Mando-d4k
@Mando-d4k 13 күн бұрын
Piper, for the record, has hated Trump since 2016.
@StevenJames70
@StevenJames70 11 күн бұрын
I don't get how you all overlook that Trump Supports Gay Marriage - fights for their rights so he says - okay with it. That's getting it on all the issues? No - he also welcomes abortion in certain cases - along with His ProChoice Wife. Wake Up - the Lord does not approve of changing laws - to change meaning of marriage .... Now Respect of Marriage Act Trump supports is making our nation more lawless than ever! The Word of God says - Let all who name the name of Jesus depart from evil. Faith without works is dead ... The only thing I Rely on is the Lord - He us coming back soon to smite the nations - all nations because they all participate in prophesy of Mystery Babylon/Mother of Harlots & must repent ... Come Out of her My People ( Israel ) and partake not of her sins - that you may not receive of her plaques. The Holy Spirit Enables believers To repent & we are to pray for our leaders to come to repentance - or we shall continue moan and groan from lawlessness. I rejoice in knowing the truth - and hopeful Christ Jesus is coming soon to set up His Kingdom. For He said : My Kingdom is NOT of this world. He rules and rains with Righteousness. And all who lead others to Righteousness will Shine Like Stars in the Universe.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@HalleluYAH-b5d
@HalleluYAH-b5d 22 сағат бұрын
Its not about personality, its about policy. That was a big lesson to learn, after all, personality cults are communism..
@Mando-d4k
@Mando-d4k 12 сағат бұрын
@@HalleluYAH-b5d Agreed 100%. The child being aborted only cares about policy, NOT personality. Policy can kill. Personality annoys. There is a difference.
@amandaalford1980
@amandaalford1980 13 күн бұрын
Why am i not surprised about Piper.
@dandathomas6852
@dandathomas6852 12 күн бұрын
He has been irrelevant for a long long time
@jeffdowns1038
@jeffdowns1038 12 күн бұрын
@@dandathomas6852 He's so irrelevant... Hold on is this podcast about Piper?
@JkBee
@JkBee 12 күн бұрын
So thankful for your perspective Allie
@JReeves-r2v
@JReeves-r2v 11 күн бұрын
❤ your show
@jsshay01
@jsshay01 12 күн бұрын
SO absolutely ecstatic with this election outcome! Like a holiday, praise the Lord Jesus Christ! A president for the people, who supports Israel. And, for those who have served, thank you!❤🙏🏼🇺🇸🇨🇦
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@shelleyr6013
@shelleyr6013 12 күн бұрын
Thanks, Allie. I appreciate you.☀️
@lindasteinbrenner8065
@lindasteinbrenner8065 13 күн бұрын
Sometimes I feel that as a relatagram I should be wiser. I have no problem taking counsel from a younger woman.. just wish I were close to your smarts! 😉 Great episode and yes I am celebrating! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@edamame-hime
@edamame-hime 12 күн бұрын
relatagram🥰that's adorable! 😊
@cbailey089
@cbailey089 9 күн бұрын
It is disappointing to me that when i push back on some of President Trump's cabinet selections and/or policies I receive a lot of vitriol. It seems that we are expected to blindly accept everything DJT says without question.
@Elizabeth-rk3do
@Elizabeth-rk3do 3 күн бұрын
What's interesting is that the movie about Dietrich Bonhoffer is coming out this month. But, no Christian wants to stand against evil. 😢 60% of Christians voted for Adolf Hitler.
@celesteh4679
@celesteh4679 12 күн бұрын
These folks seem to forget there were non Christian and non Jewish political leaders in the Bible that God used for His purposes.
@res6769
@res6769 12 күн бұрын
@@celesteh4679 yes!
@kellyoneill189
@kellyoneill189 12 күн бұрын
☝️ This.
@elizabethcochran3395
@elizabethcochran3395 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have been saying this for years now. If I was a Jew who got to vote on either Anticohus epiphanes or Cyrus, I'm pretty sure I would be going with Cyrus without hesitation.
@MJBfromWilloughby
@MJBfromWilloughby 12 күн бұрын
Do you think God sent Trump to the Playboy mansion where there were some sex orgies taking place there?
@SeanusAurelius
@SeanusAurelius 11 күн бұрын
Sure, but equally the Jews were so obsessed with politics it kept getting in the way of the Messiah. Christianity's still declining in America; you've maybe only got 4 years to try to turn it around, so stop obsessing over politics and Trump and get out and do Jesus' work.
@RhiscFactor
@RhiscFactor 12 күн бұрын
55:18 This is such a respectful and spot on response to Piper. It bears weight because Allie admits having learned from him in the past. We have to be able to point out when our leaders might be off. BTW, awesome use of the word ‘salvific!’ Love that word.
@loganhowlett3024
@loganhowlett3024 12 күн бұрын
Many Godly men have struggled with the sin of lust. John Piper, whom I love and have been deeply fed by, struggles with the sin of cowardice. God help my brother. MAGA!!
@SafeSpaceInc
@SafeSpaceInc 12 күн бұрын
EXACTLY. It's cowardice. Nauseating.
@loganhowlett3024
@loganhowlett3024 12 күн бұрын
@SafeSpaceInc it is nauseating. We should pray for him and never, EVER stop celebrating! Let the winning begin and go on until we cry out "No please! It's too much winning!" Hallelujah!
@cranmer1959
@cranmer1959 12 күн бұрын
Piper retired early because he was having marital problems. He's full of himself.
@s.a.6082
@s.a.6082 12 күн бұрын
I struggle with cowardice as well. I shrink down when confronted by my crazy liberal mom. But I'm a woman so maybe I get somewhat of a pass for being sensitive 😂
@loganhowlett3024
@loganhowlett3024 12 күн бұрын
@s.a.6082 we all struggle with sin. The Lord says have I not commanded you be strong and courageous?
@lgazel
@lgazel 10 күн бұрын
It’s ridiculous that so many evangelicals that hold fast to loving your neighbor as yourself would so blindly support and idolize a man the has run a campaign that does nothing but fear mongers about the “others”
@ce4truth
@ce4truth 12 күн бұрын
We are to put our hope in Christ not in government. John Piper is not a relativist. He has clearly said you cant really vote for Democrats at this point because of their stances. He said its obvious, but wants to encourage people to put their hope in the Lord first and foremost, not Trump as the savior. Its good to encourage hope in the Lord recognizing politicians will always disappoint us.
@tamiburon6987
@tamiburon6987 12 күн бұрын
Well said!
@elizabethann8228
@elizabethann8228 12 күн бұрын
We all know that Trump is NOT our savior and don’t believe we need to be reminded of who IS. ( it’s gotten old, that assumption we Christians don’t know the difference)
@caribanna
@caribanna 11 күн бұрын
Exactly! I think Allie missed the mark seriously here. The only one deserving of praise and to be celebrated is our Lord Jesus.
@hollypepen4012
@hollypepen4012 11 күн бұрын
It’s truly terrifying to me how many people are treating Trump like a savior or otherwise hero-worshipping him. That’s awfully close to idolatry, y’all.
@zeezee83
@zeezee83 11 күн бұрын
​@caribanna it's biblical. The bible said saviours will arise out of zion. The bible says when the righteous prosper, the city rejoices. You can say, when the righteous win elections the people rejoice. When the wicked lose, there are shouts of joy. King Cyrus was not a Jew but God called him His annoited. Here I am in Nigeria rejoicing because I don't want anyone to come here to tell us we need to change our laws to accept Lgbtq. That's what kamala did when she came to Ghana and she would have done more if she won. The US is very influential and can do alot of havoc. So THANK GOD TRUMP WON.
@DanielleHaunschild
@DanielleHaunschild 10 күн бұрын
Completely agree about John Piper. Love love listening to you. This caught my attention because I highly respect John Piper too.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@cindermountain
@cindermountain 11 күн бұрын
I’ve had it with Professional Christians. I seek the truth in the Word, with prayer, by the Spirit, and in fellowship with the body of Christ. I’m done with 501c3 organizations.
@cynthialocher393
@cynthialocher393 10 күн бұрын
Thank you
@kimmurray1109
@kimmurray1109 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for talking about Sam Brown! He goes to our church and they are a really sweet homeschool family. I'm honestly surprised he was so close to winning...Jackie Rosen flooded us with ads about what a Maga/abortion extremist he is. I hardly ever saw ads for Sam. But win or lose, I can't wait to see how God uses him next!
@chadhalsted6067
@chadhalsted6067 9 күн бұрын
I like your perspective concerning John Piper and others. Well said.
@Bill_H856
@Bill_H856 12 күн бұрын
Great information Allie There is no way a Christian can be for a Democrat because of the party's platform. It is totally anti-christian everything about it.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Agreed, and I actually voted for Trump simply to save babies. Yet, I am very concerned about Trump. I urge all Christians to keep eyes wide open. If Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@asonnenburg
@asonnenburg 12 күн бұрын
Absolutely loved this episode!
@TrishWragg
@TrishWragg 12 күн бұрын
John Piper is not following the Holy Spirit’s guidance but his own feelings
@GinnyNorton-r6d
@GinnyNorton-r6d 12 күн бұрын
Yes - agree! Rejoice and keep praying!!
@joycrowthers7563
@joycrowthers7563 13 күн бұрын
I never liked JP. Never sat well with me.
@hollypepen4012
@hollypepen4012 11 күн бұрын
IMHO, an election should neither cause us to boastfully celebrate nor be sore losers. Such tribalistic partisanship is part of our problem. We are divided in such a way as to be frightening at times. We will only improve as a nation if we are willing to work together. As Christian citizens, that also means praying with and for each other.
@TheLindseyDara
@TheLindseyDara 13 күн бұрын
If it was the other way around, if Kamala won, I guarantee these Christian’s who voted for Kamala would be celebrating and claiming they conquered evil, they would NOT be saying, “ Yes Kamala won, but you need to be kind and loving toward Trump voters.” I just don’t see that happening at all.
@KosmiosMom
@KosmiosMom 12 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@st.christopher1155
@st.christopher1155 12 күн бұрын
A true Christian would not vote for Kamala. Jesus is not much into that infanticide (killing babies) thing, which seems to be the only “policy” that Kamala really believed in.
@notmyrealname2592
@notmyrealname2592 12 күн бұрын
Christians who voted for Kamala? Isn’t that an oxymoron?
@66fredo99
@66fredo99 12 күн бұрын
AMEN!! Nothing but hate and resentment from the Left that's all they got.
@TheLindseyDara
@TheLindseyDara 12 күн бұрын
@ sounds like it, but they exist. At the end of the video, Allie reads comments from some Christian’s who were disappointed at the election results and that was what my comment was mainly referring to. Last 10 minutes of the video I think.
@Jesters7264
@Jesters7264 10 күн бұрын
I'm happy trump won. That being said we as Christian trump supporters should be gracious and compassionate towards the other side. Also we have to accept when some in our ranks have hesitations about who trump is as a person. He's a deeply flawed man and that's not a judgment as I am too, but his flaws are in the open for all to see and witness. I hope the holy spirt is moving in President Trump and guiding him to lead this nation wisely.
@yllatusmuna
@yllatusmuna 13 күн бұрын
I think American politics has changed forever. President Trump has created a brand new alignment of God fearing patriots. It's not left/right, Democrat/Republican any more. Praise God! ❤
@fakadaapada
@fakadaapada 13 күн бұрын
it's good vs evil. simple. and by the way should you have 'y' rather than 'u' in 'yllatus'
@s.a.6082
@s.a.6082 12 күн бұрын
He's not even saved. But sure if you want to see cultural Christianity as real Christianity go for it.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@kristiLB93
@kristiLB93 10 күн бұрын
Our family,.and I'm sure many others prayed that the Lord would put into power who he wanted. We prayed that His will would be done - whether it was Kamala or Trump. We prayed for rightoutous and Godly influence in our government to prevail. I believe that the Lord answered the many that cried out in prayer. Trump is my president but The Lord God is my savior and King, my highest alligence.
@laurenswift9368
@laurenswift9368 12 күн бұрын
There is a time for everything and this was a time to rejoice. Even children know how to dance. Even children know how to lament. Major evil being pushed back is a time for celebration
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@mooreoftammie
@mooreoftammie 11 күн бұрын
So well said Allie!!! ❤
@SpareSpacesuit
@SpareSpacesuit 12 күн бұрын
Your doing a great job!
@rachelmitchell2144
@rachelmitchell2144 12 күн бұрын
Preach, sis! 💚
@yolandapedro7333
@yolandapedro7333 11 күн бұрын
You are right I read John Pipper comment I respect him but I disagree with what he said.
@IwillsingtoGod
@IwillsingtoGod 11 күн бұрын
Thank you Allie. Not one of these “Christian leaders” say these things when a democrat wins. Ever.
@judylarson18
@judylarson18 9 күн бұрын
John Piper does not support Democrats or pro choice candidates.
@retrograd332
@retrograd332 13 күн бұрын
Piper has always had awful takes when it comes to politics
@michaelfeher8602
@michaelfeher8602 12 күн бұрын
Which is a shame because he's one of the best bible teachers and scholars out there. This man loves the Lord and loves his word I have no doubt. But he's off on this.
@jessicahopkins9785
@jessicahopkins9785 12 күн бұрын
Yes, yes, yes….I agree Sam Brown would be such an asset to our government!!! What a hero he is…God is good in his story!
@CharmandersCrispyTators
@CharmandersCrispyTators 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for covering this Allie. I can’t wait to hear your opinions on Matt Chandlers little rant at the end of his sermon yesterday (nov 10). All of my heroes are failing me (Tim K, Matt C, John Piper), but it’s actually a good thing. It’s pushing me to listen to the Bible on audiobook rather than their sermons.
@leannemarie9173
@leannemarie9173 13 күн бұрын
Me too..
@AnneTherese.
@AnneTherese. 13 күн бұрын
As we all should.
@randomvintagefilm273
@randomvintagefilm273 12 күн бұрын
Me too. We need God to clean house in the church. There are so many imposters
@addjoaprekobaah5914
@addjoaprekobaah5914 12 күн бұрын
Sermons are incredibly necessary for our growth. Think of Timothy interpreting Paul’s parchment to the church. There are always leaders that are sound. I’d say don’t count them out, add it to your bible reading.
12 күн бұрын
Derek Prince and Adrian Rogers are both sound preachers, although one was Pentecostal and the other Baptist. Their both dead, so that can't end up being false prophets.
@judyroberts4596
@judyroberts4596 10 күн бұрын
Allie, I wonder how the conversation you and I would have would go. I let Jesus into my heart less than a month ago. I was very one sided and very lost previously. I grew up VERY liberal. But in my soul always felt god's convictions, and without knwoing HE was guiding me. Now I am trying to find the truth but within the scripture and through my relationship with god. Becuase there is no other truth other than god. I am new to everything, and I have so many questions. I feel like I I could really talk to you and you could help me closer my relationship to god. You do with your podcasts! God bless!
@tmcl1837
@tmcl1837 12 күн бұрын
We prayed for this. God answered our prayers. I rejoice in what the Lord has done. Remember, if you say, "Jesus is Lord," you're at the, "Wrong Rally." Can it get any clearer than that?
@john5389
@john5389 11 күн бұрын
It was clear even before she mocked the Lord with that statement.
@readaloudkids1407
@readaloudkids1407 7 күн бұрын
Unless Trump turns out to be the antichrist! Keep your eyes peeled for a tracking system based on numbers, that would prevent you from buying or selling unless you have the number… keep your eyes peeled for a peace deal with Israel (to be broken 3.5 years later) and rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem…
@biblicalworldview1
@biblicalworldview1 12 күн бұрын
In defensive Allen Parr, he did most likely vote for Trump and sure that on his channel. I think he's not talking about not celebrating or being happy about the victory, but rather not rubbing it in people's faces and overdoing it in a mean spirited way.
@hokinizeu
@hokinizeu 9 күн бұрын
Thank you, I agreed 100% w you Allie as a Christian.
@MAGAsnotAcurse
@MAGAsnotAcurse 13 күн бұрын
Yes, John Piper went woke back in 2019 along with deceased Tim Keller (remember how he got so wishy-washy about abortion? 😡). Anyhow the PCA, SBC, Gospel Coalition etc all have strayed from the narrow path. Thankfully we found that the Reformed Baptists have stayed true to the gospel. Praise God for His mercy!!
@Mando-d4k
@Mando-d4k 13 күн бұрын
2016 was the year Piper left us.
@Eyesofmars2040
@Eyesofmars2040 13 күн бұрын
Yup and people don’t get that.
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 13 күн бұрын
You don’t see any extreme reason to have an abortion to save the mother’s life?
@ginah5336
@ginah5336 12 күн бұрын
​@@stevenbatke2475 Give example? Etopic pregnancy? Legal in every state!
@stevenbatke2475
@stevenbatke2475 12 күн бұрын
@@ginah5336 sure, or miscarriage. Texas women died last month, because abortion restriction caused doctors to hesitate to help her, until things became fatal. This is the new normal. Is this the “pro-life” world you want to live in?
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