John Played PS5 Pro in Japan... And Here's What He Thinks

[@alpharorschach8708]

Let's be honest here, we all want one, but we don't need one and that price is just nuts.

[@StephenOBG]

100%

[@O2TG]

I don't want one, I could have bought three for what I paid for my 4090. It's not expensive.

[@Bl4nkshell]

You're right. I would absolutely love to play Gran Turismo 7 with real Ray Tracing. It's such a small feature yet I just love how it looks. But I'm not willing to spend 700 dollars on a console without a disc drive. 100% of my collection is physical, meaning that if I got the PS5 Pro, I would be forced to get a Disc Drive (which is sold out and normally costs the price of two PS5 games where I live in) or to buy the game AGAIN digitally. It's not only that, but I don't want to support this, expensive consoles that take away things from previous models (Disc Drives, and Stands). If people accept this, in the future the damn thing is not going to come with HDMI cables, a power cord or even a controller, just like people accepted that their phones don't include a charger anymore and earbuds anymore, despite being more and more expensive.

[@trihard42069]

It's literally a $200 gpu upgrade and their own upscaling tech. idk what you don't get about the price

[@TheInsanitiesedge]

Just trade in the older ps5. That's what I'm doing :)

[@Brendo95]

John referring to the base PS5 as PS4 the entire time 🤣🤣🤣

[@Raigeki-SC]

about the same thing

[@wben7833]

​@@Raigeki-SCoh another meltdown crying again, shocker.

[@codyking4253]

​@wben7833 Nobody is crying. It just.. doesn't make any sense. Mid gen consoles are weird.. you can already play all the games.. right now.. on a PS5. A 1,200 dollar computer would beat the PS5 pro. When you start to care about Graphical performance, FPS, Machine Learning, Ray Tracing, etc... might as well just get a gaming PC at that point and free yourself of limitations that Sony or Xbox put on you as a gamer.

[@wben7833]

@@codyking4253 you can't buy a PC for that money here, not even close. A 4070ti super is as low as i would go, and that's 1300$ here and that's one part. I've already priced it out and it's over 2000$. And that's before taxes. So no it's not even an option for me. I'm good.

[@codyking4253]

@@wben7833 Save the 700, don't get a Pro.. when the next generation of consoles comes out, save that.. get a 1,500 computer. The PS5 pro has a very low end cpu, albeit, it's well optimized.. but won't take much to beat it. The Pro (pure speculation) has about a 3080 worth of GPU, which is 500 on Amazon.. definitely could beat a Pro with a 1,200 budget.

[@TheClyde1993]

It's so infuriating that PlayStation released the pro without a disc drive. People have scalped the disc drive in my country and it costs upwards of 200€ now. That's insane.

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@TheClyde1993 well think about of this way, waiting for a disk look into your digital catologue of how many offical games you boutght?????

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@TheClyde1993 is he okay

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@TheClyde1993 sesuire protcole

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@TheClyde1993 is he ok

[@ragetobe]

I went to shopto right after pre ordering and I ordered a disc drive at retail price, it said they would send it when they had stock, I had it within a week. Just order one for a shop and they will get stock.

[@Weisguy]

I’m glad it looks better than the PS4 he kept referencing thru half the video…

[@Cedjr88]

Alex Battaglia looks so disappointed that nobody cares about his PC setup anymore 🤣.

[@gamzillio]

Too much imagination? Just stop with that console vs. PC thing... Grow up. I also don't get what's so hysterically funny about it. It's not even an anecdote or anything.

[@Realmreaver1]

Or he has to hold his tongue and not say the truth of the matter.

[@adrianojv409]

@@gamzillio wow man relax, all ok at home? It's a cool joke and yes he was upset, but for the PC being an afterthought and instead of getting proper support, he said it... Now PS5Pro will help PCporters to get better ports as more optimization to a higher end console will be similar to the higher specs on PCs...

[@adrianojv409]

@@Realmreaver1 enlightened enlighten us?

[@crazyc9326]

A high-End PC will always be better then a console..Native 4k is the best way to play games! a console can't do that on most of these games...

[@THX-2208]

If it weren't for Digital Foundry and John I think I would have given the Pro a miss, mainly because of the lack for information coming from Sony. Thank God for John Linneman!

[@mxrandolph4539]

Df are a miss themselves and often lack tech knowledge. Stop glazing.

[@NicholasKoeppel]

There has also been a heavy push from gaming sites; to discount the value of the PS5 Pro… I mean IGN had their PlayStation pro team: absolutely railing on the price, barely focusing on the positives, and more then half of their PLAYSTATION team openly stating they’d skip this console generation; because it was 200 dollars more then a console released 4 years ago… At the same time: they host a Microsoft xbox fanboy party, with interviews and tech demos after they announced their new Series X system with same internals and a 2TB SSD for 600 dollars; and their giving the head of xbox a standing ovation… The PS5 Pro is the direction the industry is headed, it takes very little programming resources to take advantage of what was added; and because there exists a Pro-xbox agenda that seems to want: out dated hardware at higher prices, pre-rendered no-gameplay demos with no release dates to keep GamePass memberships up, and endless praise about their record profits as they perform massive layoffs… It doesn’t seem logical, so the only other logical reason is their being paid by Microsoft.

[@Disinfectantanime]

You would rather someone from a different perspective to tell you the difference. Sony playstation could've said the same thing.

[@GiBMan70]

Pushsquare aren't much better...and their comments sections are full of coping idiots trying to dump on it toxic.

[@godssalvation87]

Dont remember the last time any hardware maker went super in depth on hardware refreshes. I think they just allowed channels like digital foundry or even to demonstrate there hardware at event preview.

[@ericwilson9457]

I would get this if I had a PS4 But I already have a PS5

[@TheAtkinson118]

The smartest person on the the comments by far Sir 👍

[@vergilcold1167]

Yep, might as well wait till 6 since sony said we are half way through this gen

[@maximefraisier1010]

I still see a massive visual difference, if you care about visual it's a good upgrade. Why do you think people buy 1000$ GPU ? To look blurry ?

[@agentorange8530]

I have PS5 but probably gonna get the Pro. That's a huge difference in Rebirth. Didn't get Rebirth because, to me, it doesn't run good enough.

[@SsjHokage]

Maybe watch the video on something larger than your phone you dolt

[@UONeal]

The outrage over this console is ridiculous. There wasn't this level of outrage when NVidia sells a 12gb GPU for $700 but this is a PREMIUM console... It's not the next generation base console... The pro is for those who want the very best and can afford it... The base model isn't getting discontinued for everyone else

[@TranCeFORM3R]

I’m trading in my old 4 year old ps5 for new pro, which they are giving me near face value to it. So I will look forward to the next 3-4 years of the games well optimised and in focused for in term this dependable for the future of PC gaming too.

[@RonchyPR]

Because of the PC gamers hate…

[@starship_01]

Pony😂😂😂

[@franciscofarias6385]

It doesn't matter, the past generation set the expectations for this premium console's price.

[@RonchyPR]

@@starship_01 but I’ll play GTA6 first..

[@Macktube]

PlayStation is the only platform keeping this channel relevant at this point😅 all the other 2 ones are either outdated or just not releasing anything technically of note.

[@codyking4253]

@@Macktube Nobody cares about playstation. Us PC gamers are simply curious about how the Ray Tracing performs. The new GPU's are right around the corner now, and AMD does this almost every time. Where they release some decent tech, that isn't in their own GPUs at the moment, on the PS5 first due to contract obligations. By early next year there will be better GPUs from AMD available.. and in 2 years when the next generation of GPUs launch, the PS5 pro will be laughably bad, when compared to modern technology.

[@Macktube]

@@codyking4253 it must be interesting living in your own fantasy world

[@ItzRoachy]

I swear pc guys are the worst ​@codyking4253

[@MichaelM28]

@@codyking4253Everyone cares about PlayStation. Even you salty port beggars 😂

[@EllyKamarudeen]

​@@MichaelM28 My Strix 4090 is 20 times better than your PlayStation fan boy, which is basically just a fancy dust collector at this point.

[@keronwilliams4409]

The look on Alex's face is priceless 😂😂

[@NexGenTek]

Lmao 😂

[@TheBatosai]

He's definitely a fan of his PC master race

[@unluckymarshmallow1688]

Can’t wait to receive my PS5 Pro 🥰🥰

[@stephensearles673]

I'm just the same the 7th of November can't come quick enough

[@RonchyPR]

Me too, God bless you!

[@brianmcswain8932]

Me, both of my adult daughters and three of their friends all have it pre-ordered.

[@RonchyPR]

@@brianmcswain8932 that’s the way!

[@michaelgonzales1365]

Me too! Imagine being so soft that a price for a more premium product hurts your feelings, sheesh. No one is MAKING us upgrade. We here can afford a gaming PC as well. But I prefer my console. It is what it is. But really, I cannot wait for this thing. Congrats to you guys 😎👍

[@krispybowgod9656]

Everyone needs to understand that there are no huge generational leaps like ps1 to ps2 etc anymore. Games have reached near realistic fidelity. We are in an era like PC gaming now where we are chasing minor performance upgrades and better ray tracing etc. it won’t blow your mind but it is definitely better than a base ps5 or xbox

[@ittoogami2682]

Bullshit

[@vmbo]

They should focus more on AI (have characters with realistic conversations), realistic physics and destructable objects etc. Most worlds still feel fake, even though the graphics and reflections are great. Unbreakable glass, objects glued to the environment etc

[@slowmercy69]

​@@vmboGTA IV is a lot morr impressive than V for this very reason. I want more advancements in the processing and physics department, not graphics

[@eclisis5080]

you still playing at 60fps, you are in the era of PC gaming ten years ago

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@vmbo exactly, graphics aren't everything

[@ToxMod]

Alex Battaglia always has something to say….except when John brings the facts. 😂 10:34

[@joshfulcifan1015]

Great video guys. Just makes me look more forward to my pre-ordered console more than ever.

[@Jay_Walker92]

All I know is November 7th can't get here fast enough...got my disc drive and stand ready to go💪🏿.

[@necro699]

Playstation is letting Digital Foundry and others dissect their system. DF's word is to be trusted and they can spread the word . Playstation doesn't want to brag. Let others brag for them. Anyone can say this is awesome on what they're selling. Letting someone else try it and talk about it is priceless. Thank you, Digital Foundry!!

[@BigJugsRule92]

Ehh I wouldn’t say that, they can be pretty biased

[@jamesthomas89112]

Facts. Remember when they constantly compared Ps5 games to PC but not xbox games to PC. Clearly biased

[@BigJugsRule92]

@@jamesthomas89112 in their defense, Xbox hardly had any games to compare 😂

[@necro699]

Xbox is not the Xbox I supported since day 1. They have lost their way and left their fanbase begging for something to be proud of. Bragging about anything and everything and yet, the numbers don't lie. They left the console race and are going to the subscription, which is the future but many of us still want a console.

[@tringuyen7519]

@@BigJugsRule92Regardless of DF bias, the side by side comparison of the PS5 & PS5 Pro is mind blowing. Games on PS5 Pro are absolutely stunning!!!

[@TheOldest]

When most of the notably changes require 4x maganification at 50% playback speed, I'm not gonna notice when I'm playing. I feel like that should be the biggest factor for upgrading your hardware is seeing the difference. If you need an FPS counter and multiple zoom in and slow downs to highlight minor improvements the console hardware race has essentially plateaued. I'm still looking at developers for making suggestions like this feel necessary with poor optimization on all platforms and framerates not being a priority during development.

[@codyking4253]

@@TheOldest RT (ray tracing) doesnt need a 4x zoom to show improvement, it speaks for itself.. the FPS thing.. its subjective.. when I lock my monitor to 60 FPS after coming from 240.. I immediately notice a big difference.. the game just feels "sloppy", if that makes any sense.

[@codyking4253]

@@TheOldest Side note, there are other, major advancements coming.. its just still in the works still. With Machine Learning, PT (Path tracing) being chased after now.. its basically the improved form of ray tracing, and does in fact offer another visual leap. The biggest improvement this console generation got was a SSD. I remember when I got my first SSD 10 years ago.. it was a night and day difference.. very exciting stuff at that time.. no, not a visual improvement.. but a very nice change nonetheless.

[@Sideways_Singh]

@@TheOldest either ur blind or ur watching on a lil baby phone screen. Even then ur still blind cus even on a tiny phone screen some of these games are night and day, the biggest improvement are also double the fps, which u have to play to feel the lack of delay and to see 60 fps difference u need to watch on a tv.

[@martinflores7354]

Very true.

[@mexreax4493]

You only notice if you play at 55 inches or bigger. I do. It's horrible on a 55 inch oled compared to the pc version of ff vii remake at 4k 120fps with 4k textures. Looks like a last gen game compared to that on my 55 inch oled

[@michaelavrie]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I really don't see raytraced reflections on cars as a revolutionary upgrade. The various combinations of techniques that have been around for years have been plenty convincing enough. I would rather see them innovate in other ways. Raytraced lighting and shadows are much more impactful to my eye.

[@Realmreaver1]

It is awesome but only if you got the rig to really show it off. Why the pro and higher price tag.

[@alejandrooro9932]

You are in the majority

[@SWOTHDRA]

Path tracing is the only way. RDR2 is this the best looking game out here, with the terrain chinging, best lighting etc. And it runs on a ps4......

[@AlphariousOmegon-d5d]

Once you get used to it, you'll notice it when it's not there

[@user-ws6nu4mq8k]

You’re absolutely right. The tech is cool but I’m honestly starting to lose interest in some of this stuff. Those reflections do almost nothing to actually improve the visuals when you’re properly racing. I can’t believe it’s seen as this ”major feature”. GT looks so good on the track side already that it mainly needs an upgrade on the enviroments to take the experience into the next level.

[@NicholasKoeppel]

I think people are missing the point of the PS5 Pro and PSSR: this tech is the only way we get the majority to 4K120+ gaming; without requiring 24GB+ VRAM, or DVD sized Silicon dies… as a bonus: offloading AI enhancement is going to allow AMD unique uses of cluster designs(merging different levels of silicon on the same manufactured die)… The thing people don’t realize is… games are programmed for the majority… your super computer 4090 might be able to run circles around my PS5, but games are designed to be optimized at 12GBs of VRAM, and you’ll find currently: there’s quite a large diminishing return drop off as you move past that 12GB mark in most games…

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@NicholasKoeppel Yep in terms of Multiplatform releases, it’s always been that way or was that way to optimised on dev hardware, then focus on a PC port externally it hasn’t change completely. Only time will tell if the product will sell but moving into 2025, with the release of games that were shown this year running poorly or under optimised with current hardware, let’s not forget about GTA 6 the true console system seller because we know Rockstar won’t port the game till they hit thier sales target and Take 2 is happy lol.

[@theMatch111]

Excellent comment

[@futureboy8897]

4k, 120fps😂 with the same 4 year old hardware.

[@NexGenTek]

@@futureboy8897How is that not impressive when you’re barely getting that now

[@duppypixels]

Ill believe 4k/120fps when i see it… so far almost all these games are still only hitting 30 and 60 on the pro... and thats with OLDER titles at that smh. If i see more games hitting 120fps then ill grab one

[@divinitymode9364]

Here’s the huge thing about the Pro. It will almost certainly be the single best platform to play UE5 games on. And SO MANY upcoming games are UE5. Great image quality, no stuttering. That’s enough for me. I’m in.

[@PumKnH3D]

Some of my recent favorite games run on UE5 and have issues on ps5. If the pro does indeed help them run better, I will too be upgrading. Just gonna wait and see

[@MailmanMoe]

Until Dawn can't even run properly in unreal engine 5 and that's a ps4 game.

[@arturiaarthus8367]

the engine is the issue, not the hardware.

[@unknown-jx5yt]

the Pro will make little difference in the stuttering as like the other poster said its an engine problem and not a PS5 problem.

[@divinitymode9364]

@@arturiaarthus8367 The engine is fantastic. But has two issues. It needs hardware upscaling to get excellent image quality (especially with RT) and maintain framerate and its shader compilation solution is dire and causes stuttering on PC (consoles pre-compile). The Pro is the only machine that solves both issues.

[@tech6309]

We've had amazing upscaling/super resolution for years, people know how good it is, yet most are surprised about how good it is on the ps5 pro. Sony is just catching up to this technology. I'm not a console fanboy, haven't owned a ps since the ps2, but a ps5 pro for $700-900 is expected in todays world, and most certainly a good deal if all you want is a plug and play gaming device.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@tech6309 "Sony is just catching up to this technology." Hoo boy...

[@Mr.Murphy2You]

Can't wait I have 2 pre-ordered for myself and the kiddos 💯🔥💯

[@originalauthor]

buying two pros is nasty work....

[@frisby7143]

Would your kids even appreciate it

[@KaijuNo.606]

​@@frisby7143 why do you care about his kids? Weird.

[@GilgaMax305]

​@frisby7143 Tf, do you even care for? Bro's jealous of kids, lmao

[@jaredtrujillo4209]

@@GilgaMax305his daddy never got him a console

[@Canadaops]

He keeps saying ps4

[@martinflores7354]

Who the hell made ray tracing a priority over fps and 4k ? I know the gamers didn’t

[@Marshmallow-ht8me]

PSSR is going to be a game changer for PS5 Pro. I can’t wait to see GTA 6 running on the Pro

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

Won't touch DLSS. Consoles playing catchup to PC, as usual.

[@Marshmallow-ht8me]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju who said it would?

[@bastien4530]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7juok

[@MrWinnfield]

what an insane thing to say

[@EduardSLVRU]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7junobody cares about PC. PC nerds as usual spend all the money and games still stuttering and barely anyone plays on mid settings. PC is for a broke boys who pretend to be rich.

[@MiniatureMorpheus]

Alex's face doing well to represent the salty AF PC players.

[@danloki78]

Lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@shayanali8771]

I am no fanboy of either platform. I own all of them. But the PS5 Pro is absolutely not worth the price it demands. You are better off with a PC, facts. Why not own both PS5 and a PC buddy?

[@danloki78]

@@shayanali8771 but over a matter of years on a pc with upgrading you will spend 5x what the pro costs. So your comment is a tad out of whack.

[@MiniatureMorpheus]

@@shayanali8771 Depends. If 4k DLSS at 60fps is your goal, you have the patience for setting optimization and pulling out a Keyboard/ using a laptop sure you can find something around $700-800. If you have no patience and want a PC like experience for your TV in a simple plug n play manner than the Pro is worth the $700. The base PS5 is fine but not optimal for many.

[@MiniatureMorpheus]

@@shayanali8771 Also if you have a large PS library and don't want to switch to PC and have to repurchase your library and lose your saves then PS5 Pro is worth it.

[@felipehorvath5527]

" There's no obligation from Sony to give us hardware " Very good quote.

[@joaoah]

If they want my money sure they are obligated to give me good hardware 😂

[@ueg3618]

That quote doesn't make any sense. Without hardware Sony would be out of business.

[@Vertignasse82]

​@@ueg3618No they make money on games and PS+ subscriptions. The current hardware is enough for those.

[@speedforce8970]

​@@ueg3618they really wouldn't be. Their hardware isn't what sells, it's their ecosystem and games

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

OK then Sony can not give us hardware and go f--k themselves but then shouldn't crawl back crying when their stonks are down.

[@torengo]

I think one of the problems is that many people are still on old 1080p monitor or TV. Myself being a console and PC gamer, upgraded to a 1440p monitor and that alone gave me a new gaming experience with the same hardware. And I have come across this multiple times on Reddit of people asking for upgrade tips, especially GPUs when they still run a 1080p monitor. I'm not saying that the PS5 Pro is worth it, but many people don't even play at the highest resolution on their base PS5 even though there is super sampling.

[@chrisb7161]

Man it’s a night and day difference going from 1440p monitor to a 4K OLED gaming TV like Lg C1 or C2. I had a high end 4k gaming monitor and even that was night and day difference to the tv. You’re missing out

[@torengo]

@@chrisb7161 Yeah I know bro. Was talking about my experience going from 1080p to 1440p monitor. I also use a 4K LG TV that in my living room. My point was that many people don't consider upgrading their monitor before they upgrade their hardware

[@paranoyd70]

I have no doubt that the PS5 pro's are an improvement...but what I seriously doubt is that its worth $1,000. And DON'T give me any crap about it actually costing $700, that is BS. I want a disc drive, which is an additional $150, which scalpers have already bought all up, plus a stand (optional), plus taxes, plus scalper prices, etc. The tech may be impressive, but the price is NOT.

[@GiBMan70]

Not worth it 'to you'. And poor effort with the price lies too. Keep crying for the next 3 or 4 years about it if you want. 🤣

[@ThorStoneGaming]

@@GiBMan70 He made a good point, you made no point.

[@wben7833]

​@@ThorStoneGaminghe made no good point, he said he wants, but actually doesn't need.

[@fafski1199]

​@@GiBMan70Unfortunately, he's not wrong. Most people will also want a PS5 disc drive for thier back library of physical games, alongside a stand. However, pretty much all of the PS5 disc drives are "out of stock" and are only being sold by scalpers for around double the price. Plus, just like he said, in the US there's also Tax to pay on top of those prices. So you'd be currently looking at forking out the best part of $1,000 for a PS5 Pro with a disc drive. BTW, it costs even more than that, in other parts of the world.

[@KingScotto.]

20 days until the beast is unleashed 😈

[@lapatabelluda2240]

The beast is out is Clark Xbox series x.

[@elyssa.c90]

Whoever says that there's no visible difference between the consoles, must clearly be suffering from some kind of visual impairment. The amount of copium in the commentary section ever since the Pro's announcement is unreal. Besides, a PC graphics card alone that can do what the Pro does, will easily set you back 700 quid. So, what exactly is everyone complaining about here?

[@GiBMan70]

You hit the nail on the head. They cant even see for all the copium in their veins to try and get through the next few years

[@c1979h]

You can get a Nvidia 3080 for 350 and up on the PC, the PS5 Pro aint even on that level. Save your money, if you already got one. go buy a GPU for your PC and enjoy both worlds or all three.

[@Luke973T]

​@@c1979h proof that the pro isn't on the level of a 3080? And in what aspects?

[@ricklubbers1526]

Im seeing the visual difference alright. I see no disc drive and no vertical stand. Keep accepting corporate bullshit.

[@Luke973T]

@ricklubbers1526 good for me. Don't need a stand and I haven't used discs in over 10 years. If they were included then the ssd would probably be 1tb instead of 2.

[@kpeterst]

John, did you get any info about possible PSVR2 uplifts with the new PS5 Pro hardware? I’m thinking about framerate, draw distance or a resolution boost in GT7

[@thedcgaming5]

it should all be better

[@AKSBSU]

Frame rate is always the most important thing with VR, both high frame rate and consistent frame rate, and the Pro should help with those significantly.

[@yohnwong780]

​@@AKSBSU From my opinion, PSVR2 already has good framerate, it's just the texture, in game resolution and draw distance to be improved from Pro

[@AKSBSU]

@@yohnwong780 Resident Evil Village has been reported to run 60 fps with reprojection. That's not good or even adequate. I want 90 to 120 fps for a VR game, and I think the Pro could easily deliver that.

[@X4Piper]

It’s an extra $200 for a bigger gpu and 2TB ssd. The 2TB ssd is worth it alone. If you haven’t bought a ps5 yet it doesn’t make sense to buy the $500 one. When you’ll spend another $200+ just for a 2TB ssd.

[@cosmancho2959]

Not everyone needs that 2tb.

[@General_M]

@@cosmancho2959 no, but it’s a bit odd that Microsoft is selling the 2TB Series X for $100 less than the PS5 Pro. For one, storage isn’t that expensive and Microsoft uses standard (albeit an uncommon size) NVMe drives in their console. Which makes the PS5 Pro a weirdly better value prop.

[@PhilippeCorthout]

@@cosmancho2959 You'll be surprised how fast the base HD fills up...

[@c1979h]

@@PhilippeCorthout but you can more than double that base for only 70 bucks...

[@kieran9882]

£340 for the digital edition in the uk, which means it’s £360 more here

[@MJ1931.]

I love how much this console had angered the PC geeks, the toxicity off them is so funny.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@MJ1931. That "anger" comes from a place of pro-consumerism. PC "geeks" want the best bang for the buck. They gatekeep innovation and oversee competition. Ponies, Xbots, and Nintendorks are just like any other radical political group, only they just consume product and get excited for next product. It's not toxic to not want you to scam yourself when there are better alternative options elsewhere. If anything, PC gamers will ALWAYS have the last laugh.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@MJ1931.That "anger" comes from a place of pro-consumerism. PC "geeks" want the best bang for the buck. They gatekeep innovation and oversee competition. Ponies, Xbots, and Nintendorks are just like any other pxlxtxcxl cxlt, only they just consume product and get excited for next product. It's not toxic to not want you to scam yourself when there are better alternative options elsewhere.

[@nc630]

PS5 Remastered

[@dygad1]

We are all accustomed to buying consoles that are sold at a loss which was made up via game sales but game sales today are really difficult to make up that difference and risky. With services like PSplus and gamepass, games simply don't sell as often. Rumor has it that future consoles will be upgradable consoles where basically every component is plug and play and upgradable. In sense PS5 is appears to be a bit of test of that with it being able to add a disk drive and SSD storage. Think of it like cars, the whole purpose is to travel but different people have different needs and then there's luxury items that you don't need but like to have... There's also the question of usage. If you're using your PS5 a ton, then you may want to consider. Once again I'll bring up cars but I personally was driving 150-200 miles per day for work so it was more important for me to spend extra on a plug-in hybrid vs my previous 15 mpg SUV. Now I work remotely and only drive 10 miles in a week if that so now my usage and needs are way different. I use the same logic with PS5, I'm going to use it a ton so I'm probably going for luxury and better quality because if useage and not just to have it sit and collect dust.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@dygad1 Tldr; but especially Concord. Now Pronies gotta pay the tax 😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@reklavier]

"We don't need more anger today, Alex." 👏

[@MrChadLedford]

I actually think the price of the ps5 pro is fine, even using historical reference points. The problem is shipping it at that price without a disc drive.

[@thomgeh]

What about the volume of the fans and the coil whine?

[@Cryptic0013]

I see I'm not the only one who still remembers the PS4 Pro sounding like a 747 taking off. Couldn't play the bloody thing without headphones.

[@cyco7229]

probably not the best situation to evaluate that by playing at a press event, only when people get the system in their homes we'll have actual conclusions on noise

[@hero4535]

Can’t wait to get mine day one! All future games will most definitely show much greater differences.

[@notatechguy1209]

On PC, we really don't have much of a leg to stand on because consoles are the target. We often have to wait longer for a patch for a PC port, and sometimes, they never come. Most of us are rocking mid-range hardware or lower rigs that fall within the spec range they list for these games and spend hours playing around in settings. We all don't have RTX 4090/ 7800X3D systems to power through bad ports.

[@kongyiu]

Just be patient. Many developers can’t release exclusives anymore. It’s a matter of time they must put more effort in PC versions. With Sony pushing digital only consoles and increasing the prices, more and more people will go to the PC route to play games.

[@pgr3290]

Most people are not paying $700 for a PS5 Pro. However a massive proportion of PC gamers have hardware superior to the base PS5 at this point. It is four years old and anything better than an RTX3060 typically does better, not least because DLSS walks all over the usual FSR blur fest on console

[@notatechguy1209]

@@kongyiu Like I said some games never get fixed. I not going to PS5 anytime soon but I do understand why some do.

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

@@pgr3290 Based on Steam Metrics, 3060, 4060, 4060ti, 1650, 3060ti are the top 5 most used dedicated cards.

[@Whreck11]

​​​@@notatechguy1209instead of wasting money on expensive games on limited ps store or bs psplus subscribtion you can just save money and build a high end pc and your solved. Typical playstation user spends way more money than a high end pc gamer over time.

[@dmoros78v]

what about GT7 on PSVR2??? nobody has covered what PS5 Pro will bring to PSVR

[@gtrealm]

I know I have asked you this question before.... BUT!!! What cameras do you use for in your videos like this. ? thanks :)

[@giotorres9848]

im new to ps so i pre ordered the ps5 pro because many games that are pro enhanced that i want to play i havent so glad ill enjoy them in the highest quality a console can offer

[@lapatabelluda2240]

Nice so now you have a console that can compete with the Xbox series x well not really because the pro can’t even do 60fp like the series x

[@c.daubz.5386]

1:37 lack of optimization by developers cause this 💩

[@ThorStoneGaming]

Exactly.

[@TM-zc4qz]

Depends on the support for games. I dont buy a pro to play old as walking simulators a little sharper for 1000 bucks. The pro enhanced games already run good and look good on the ps5.

[@dante19890]

Jumping from pro machine to pro machine seems to be the way to go in the future. Just skip the base units and wait for the crossgen to be over and get the pro

[@ghostschiphon]

Honestly.... That's not a bad idea. If I didn't own a base PS5 the pro price wouldn't bother me nearly as much

[@_sparrowhawk]

Gobbledegook gibberish. Here's an idea: Jump from PS4 to PS5 to PS6? What a life hack.

[@dante19890]

@@_sparrowhawk why, so you can play crossgen games for 4 years and then struggle with the actual nextgen games.

[@user-ws6nu4mq8k]

I had most fun playing the cross gen games with much better loading times and nice framerates instead of struggling with a PS4. Now I have almost nothing new to play. So many great ”next gen” games out there.

[@victorvargas9330]

@@dante19890 Until the big three decides on a pro max version...

[@SamSamShine]

But is it worth paying twice as much as the regular PS5 ?

[@SsjHokage]

Well if you can math and know it’s not twice as much yes. The guy commenting broken PC ports nails it on the head of why this is a better buy.

[@jarridbest6295]

You're awesome John!

[@kyosukeshidou1370]

We all WANT it , but Not ALL of us have the fancy to Drop 700 Dollars for a Graphics and Frame Increase , no .. The Price still DOES NOT Justify the value I wonder how did they UPGRADE PS4 to PS4 Pro with the SAME PRICE back in the day

[@reelroyalevizion800]

Another one!!! Can’t wait for the 7th! It will only get better and better PSSR the new king of gaming

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

Won't touch DLSS. Consoles playing catchup to PC, as usual.

[@nxnw3741]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mrdappernature8861]

Boy what....lol....you do know the 50 series gpu's are coming out in January. You will be back at square none.

[@reelroyalevizion800]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju that has been the case forever, but judging body language and actually listening to what’s being said that won’t be the case at all…seeming to me like anything 4070 and below is in trouble underestimating PSSR is where the internet got it way wrong. Sony has been tuning AI for years in their Mirrorless cameras and TVs… talk time is over you’ll see in 3 weeks.

[@reelroyalevizion800]

@@mrdappernature8861 naw boy, idgaf PC’s dominance is over you better grab you a 50 series cause with in two years they won’t optimize for nothing less…if you pay more than the console cost for a card just to stay ahead by a little then it’s only one little boy in this conversation… poor baby you supremacy is threatened. See that Off the Grid early access on consoles which was reserved for PC for decades? Yea things have changed we won’t need PC to beta test our games anymore here shortly.

[@benpaul8909]

If you get another opportunity to put questions to Sony, can you please ask about PSVR2 updates to GT7 on PS5 Pro? A lot of people are very interested in knowing if there will image quality improvements, or more importantly a native frame rate increase that removes the need for reprojection.

[@davidcupra4913]

I can’t understand there not even mentioning it like it doesn’t exist wtf like 😅

[@rajigo6466]

Say what you want about the price of the PS5 Pro, but with the embarrassing state of pc optimization, an equivalent priced PC has no chance of running games as well, not even PCs that are more high end on paper. This has been my experience with a 3070 PC, which should blow the ps5 out of the water, and yet intensive games run smoothly on ps5, while my PC has been a stutter fest for years. I'm done with updating PCs. Playstation and Steam Deck from now on.

[@staskozak8118]

you play on low-mid settings on that pc?

[@rajigo6466]

So my options are to play in potato mode at 720p with a 3070, or shill 2000 euros to brute force shitty ports with a 4090. PC gaming has become so flexible

[@walter-o6y4h]

700$... ''PS5 Stand Sold Separately''

[@victorvargas9330]

@@walter-o6y4h AND disc drive. Sony: "Play Has No Limits." Also Sony: places limitations on gaming. Also also Sony: "Pay the Concord tax."

[@joaomartins9062]

Ok, can we move on to another thing now?

[@akathenugget]

Now that you say it they do need to move on lol

[@JeannieLove]

Not until November 7.

[@LordColeslaw]

I think they're paid to promote it for a few more weeks

[@friend4720]

@@LordColeslaw🤦‍♂️

[@Dezzyyx]

why? this is relevant now, and will be for some time as the Pro releases and people start using it

[@rains2693]

There are people who want this. Most will be happy with the performance of a $40k car. There are people who are unhappy with the rear-wheel steering and precision of a curved OLED on an $80k car. There are completely different audiences and different markets. The pro is just starting to walk. I would like to see a $1200 Apple console.

[@garyhenry5673]

OR....you can keep your ps5...save the 700 to 800 dollars for the ps6. done.

[@StreetPreacherr]

And if you for some reason still don't have a console. Will most people prefer a DISCOUNTED standard PS5, or a PREMIUM priced 'Pro' model?

[@shepardcommander9960]

That's still 4 years away at the minimum.

[@dzdogg]

Dayum! I gotta have those Digital Foundry eyes to appreciate the subtle differences 😂

[@DC-co3gf]

This has been said before but PS5 Pro is what PS5 should have launched as in the first place.

[@GiBMan70]

2020 for the tech in this at same price? No chance. What planet are you on? Can i have a ticket there?

[@DC-co3gf]

@@GiBMan70 not same price. Who said that? I would have been fine paying $700 for a base PS5 if it shipped like this. It is the true generational step forward and not what we got in 2020.

[@brianmcswain8932]

Nope-keep dreaming!

[@basedplants]

​@@DC-co3gfthe best GPU in 2020 was a 3090 launched at $1500, so a ps5 in 2020 at ps5 pro power today would've been like $1800

[@DC-co3gf]

@@basedplants didn’t have to be gpu based. Ok so one to one it could not have been the ps5 pro. But it could have had active PSSR in some form. Bottom line is the PS5 underwhelmed and the Pro seemingly is underwhelming. Combine the two and we would have all felt like it was a proper generational step forward.

[@dexteroreo3392]

1:27 there you have it folks if you dont think the left is blurry then this aint for you.

[@SimonStewart75]

Exactly what it's Alex's deal? Do consoles harm his life in some way? His face is constantly tripping him in this video. When he says "The pro would be the better place to play" he looked like he was going to cry! Then going on about the PRICE of the pro. Yeah, because gaming PCs are dime a dozen.

[@arturiaarthus8367]

to understand him, you'd have to understand engines and hardware as well as he does, or at least have the base understanding of it. the PS5 Pro is hardly an upgrade at all, it's just that the base PS5 is quite outdated. both rely on upscalers but different ones, you just get the superior upscaler with the Pro on supported games (not all games, obviously). it's so severely limited in terms of what kind of improvements you'll be seeing on a Pro compared to the base PS5, that comparing to DLSS quality in x4 zoom would make the Pro look like an xbox series s. of course, you don't get it. console fanboys are disgusting.

[@PumKnH3D]

@arturiaarthus8367 hardly an upgrade, yet we have John here from DF saying it's a game changer? Who do I trust? 🤔

[@GiBMan70]

​@@arturiaarthus8367and yet he's supposed to be a hardware reviewer not a pcmr clown

[@gamzillio]

It IS compared to consoles, and at the same time gives you autonomy, not just playing games and watching movies on blu-ray. And also paying for the online somehow lol. Just don't be so sensitive, you're a grown up man.

[@arturiaarthus8367]

@@PumKnH3D to someone who has been forced to endure FSR performance at 720p, it's going to be a world of difference between performance modes.

[@Dadandtheboys]

Good video, glad I’ve ordered one 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@danielditlev]

"We don't need more anger today, Alex".. Couldn't agree more.

[@mavkajutsu]

Wait did he go on a rant on twitter? I can understand his anger towards developers releasing unfinished pc ports or just not being well optimized for our $1000-$2000 PCs. These ports with stutter just makes me want to switch to a PS5 Pro

[@danielditlev]

@@mavkajutsu watch the video. It will give you the context you ask for. Regarding anger.. let go of it. There is plenty going around.

[@gsportsgaming9387]

I get the feeling the Pro is not going to be flying off the shelves.

[@what-di3vb]

i don’t understand why people are saying it’s a 200 dollar upgrade. it’s a 300 dollar upgrade (250 technically) compared to the digital edition. yes that isn’t a stark difference but we have to realize this is almost a 300 dollar upgrade. they’re not giving us an extra tb, 40% better performance and PSSR for 200. that’s what makes this sell that much tougher.

[@bishopsmith3796]

Explain the iPhone. How about a big Mac? About 10 dollars for a big mac today. Years ago it was 2 for $5. They didn't add anything new to it but it's price has trippled. The new pc graphics cards alone are more than a console

[@what-di3vb]

@@bishopsmith3796 see but the issue is that i agree. i’m not saying i don’t see your point but this is an invalid argument because playstation is currently in a semi apple-like position. apple is able to lack behind in tech and other ways but make up for it through an ecosystem and high sales. sony currently has a minimal console “war” currently as it has outsold xbox substantially. they are much less inclined to give you a cheaper box this time. this has given us a 700 (960 canadian) dollar box. is it inflation? also with the big mac it sells for about 7 dollars total including tax here. on the app they want you to use, they give you a great 4 dollar per 1 deal. do you understand why your argument has flaws? also why are we talking about graphic cards? i never said i saw this as a bad console or said that it was a bad ask compared to graphics cards. this is simply a much tougher sale compared to the ps4 pro. yes we are in different times but it doesn’t mean we can’t innovate.

[@bishopsmith3796]

@@what-di3vb Dude you are " talking loud and not saying anything. " The ps5 pro isn't technically behind. Of course with no competition a company gets lazy and overcharge , but that is America's capitalistic economy. Regardless the vast majority of console gamers chose Playstation 5 over the competition, so whatever you think you can say, doesn't matter. The majority have spoken. They don't lack behind console on the market so explain. What console is more technologically advanced?

[@Cravendale98]

Im quite surprised they didnt add more RAM, 16GB of combined memory in 2024 is quite low.

[@lordspalse0062]

No upgrade in cpu, no upgrade in ram. I don't exactly understand what people are so excited about. I'll wait till the ps6. I'm perfectly happy with my 2.8 terabyte ps5.

[@nickochioneantony9288]

let's see the graph then.... a lot of pc users are also on mid range hardware. They majorly use 60 class gpu. It is the dev who stated "run on 60fps with upscalling & frame gen" who is destroying games on PC.... Because a lot of PC port are just straight garbage, devs always prioritize console release

[@chrisb7161]

@@lordspalse0062cpu is being boosted and the gpu will be equivalent to an RX7800XT with better RT (36 TFLOPS). Coming with 2TB SSD and Wi-Fi 7.0. It has over 100 gb/s more bandwidth than base ps5 and built on AMD RDNA 3.0 architecture. It’s a significant jump in performance. Not to mention PSSR is game changing literally. Not even a RTX 4090 can do native 4k 60FPS and ray tracing without DLSS so the fact the pro is doing PSSR 4k 60FPS with RT is seriously impressive.

[@垃圾谷歌又出bug]

​@@chrisb7161 lol a 7800xt are you dumb😂 they just stated it'll be a downclocked 7700xt which is about 3060ti level of performance😂😂and a 3700x cpu which is weak af

[@shepardcommander9960]

@@lordspalse0062they didn't upgrade the CPU in PS4 pro either other than a slight clock boost. These consoles are GPU starved because devs push the GPU way harder than the CPU.

[@bishopsmith3796]

I can't trust this guy. When halo infinite came out he had no issue with its visuals.

[@supergooglelee]

Would also like to see how GT7 on the Pro fares on the PSVR2. Let’s see!

[@lapatabelluda2240]

Just get a Xbox series x okay forza horizon 4k 60fp ray tracing looks gorgeous their I save your self all that money

[@guardianali]

The fact is that RT reflections that this channel is obsessed with is only really 'seen' when you are intentionally looking for it. Like a review youtube channel or you stop in game for the first boot up to go 'ooh ahh'. But in reality most games are moving so fast, and your attention is to what your doing and the game play, that all that detail is relgated to your side or peripheral view where the difference between RT and 'fake' lighting and reflections are not noticed at all. So you are getting better graphics that you dont actually see in exchange for worse performance.

[@O2TG]

Found the AMD fanboy 🤡

[@guardianali]

@@O2TG I actually have a 4090 so I am actually talking from experience.

[@mexreax4493]

So what happened to 4k 120fps 😂

[@arielsalatan8968]

I Dont Like Tech KZbinrs They Always Recommend 1k+$$ PC and Still 1080p Gaming Yet They Dont Like 800$ Console 4k Raytrace Quality Mode 60 Fps This Is Why I Dont Trust Tech Youber Anymore

[@victorvargas9330]

@@arielsalatan8968 4K60fps console cannot 1080p240fps or ultrawide let alone mod or content create. You can just PlayStation on Sony consoles, or you can playstation AND workstation on PC. Also PC Game Pass.

[@lordock52]

Maybe you can see something! But it does not justify the double price.

[@Vex-iy8zm]

Stop whinging about the price Americans. 850 USD to buy it in my country. You always get the better deal so zip it.

[@Henke12]

Feel the same way! 1000$ in my country

[@sobversion3]

Different dollars Different prices 🤷‍♂️; i do feel bad for Europe though. Pounds and the Euro are consistently higher than the dollar and theyre getting taxed like a mf 😅 to compensate for EVERYONE ELSE

[@anssiaatos]

​@@sobversion3 EU prices are after tax. I presume the US price is before tax? I pre-ordered the PRO for 849 €.

[@VexylObby]

We also likely have more expenses in general in the US, however. We are stretched thin here.

[@Sneakyboson]

$1200 here in Australia. Sure we have higher wages but we are increasingly under inflationary pressure and our dollar is becoming more like confetti in its worth every month.

[@Massacretalitor]

I just wished someone could have tested GT7 on PSVR2. I'm really counting on the fact that the graphics get a big boost in terms of resolution and texture quality on Pro.

[@saintkupo]

They are easy to snag. I just pre ordered one from PS direct no issues two days ago. I’ll sell my OG PS5 to offset the cost.

[@mrn234]

Me who still wants Freesync that you can have a unlocked FPS mode on every monitor: :/

[@bowlofrice1006]

What is this asinine narrative that people don't know it's more powerful? That's not the issue. The problem is that Sony released no games for the PS5 and now they want to sell you a new console at nearly twice the price. 😂😂😂

[@gothpunkboy89]

They have a lot of games for the PS5. Not sure where this BS "no games" came from beyond trolls.

[@wben7833]

My god, stop lying. You people are goofy.

[@Southeastbricks1986-xn9yd]

Honestly those comparisons don’t look different enough to justify that price tag. Ps5 needs more games not new consoles tbh

[@epicon6]

I don’t want new upscaling technology except for old games. I just want it to run the games well natively in 4K

[@gothpunkboy89]

Then your looking at a 900 dollar system minimal

[@brianmcswain8932]

As long as it looks 4k-really no reason to waste resources with native 4k!

[@alcidescollins9126]

exactly not like we can tell 4k upscaling vs real 4k. thry only tell us because they dnt want to be sue for false advertising​@brianmcswain8932

[@Tigerhearty]

What about VR performance and detail / quality ?

[@sabakunovedo]

PS5 Pro clears everything imo. Massive upgrade overall and the best way to play games on console. People were advocating for

[@VexylObby]

They could have halved the SSD, and included a disc drive, then MAYBE I would have considered it. But I do not feel like rewarding this greed. We need to let Sony know we want physical media to not die.

[@ThorStoneGaming]

Ok fanboy.

[@wben7833]

​@@ThorStoneGamingcry more clown.

[@stoi5946]

Still not sold. If you have to zoom for the difference, there's no difference at all. Look at the GT7 footage, with less zoom, there's no difference. Don't give your money away people.

[@wben7833]

Mind your business

[@cronoesify]

Alex hasnt seen the pro because he is a notorious hater of consoles.

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

He is also disingenuous and misleading when it comes to the long term performance of INDIVIDUAL pc components, and how they age like milk...

[@GiBMan70]

​@@Gustaviustwinkelberryyep i wish they'd replace him with that nxgamer dude, much better knowledge as well as attitude

[@gamzillio]

Who isn't?

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

@@gamzillio spotted the fanboy

[@johnnyringo35]

Uhm. they age just fine if you buy mid to high end.

[@LARSTAKA-666]

I am so surprised they haven't showed the frame boost on older games. it is a selling point that they are not showing.

[@lordspalse0062]

Because it's nonexistent. They are trying to sell a feature the base ps5 does perfectly as if it is a special new thing only doable on the pro.

[@Cedjr88]

My setup is pro ready lets go! Best way to play console games.

[@GalactusTheDestroyer]

I originally bought my PS5 strictly for GT7 and then getting PSVR2 a little later. It's the only way I play it nowadays. I'm really curious as to how the new Pro will address/help VR performance/appearance. That being said, $700 is just too much this time to justify the gorgeous RT reflections in GT7. I want so badly to see that in action. Another reason I also can't justify buying the pro is because I'm on a 1440p 165hz monitor. Won't get to see the 4K goodness if it can't downscale. I'm content with 1440p atm. My monitor is fantastic. Anywho, great video as always. Alex's trailing yeah... while looking down had me. Looking forward to more coverage. Freaking love DF!!

[@SamuraiMerrick]

DF staff: You can’t be angry at or about bad products that companies want you to pay real money for. What a terrible take, this is what’s wrong with journalism.

[@gothpunkboy89]

Your not obligated to buy it. Even if you wanted a PS5 you are not obligated to buy the 200 dollar upgraded version.

[@ThorStoneGaming]

@@gothpunkboy89 FF7 Rebirth has a completely avoidable bad image quality issue that the PS5 Pro "conveniently" solves. When a few patches adding FSR 2.1 could fix it. This is forcing PS5 players into playing a substandard looking version when it doesn't need to look that bad on base hardware.

[@bmth2111]

FFVII and GT are not demanding games so I’m curious to see how the Pro performs on more demanding future titles.

[@DeesBees85]

Xbox Fanboys gonna be big mad when the PS5 Pro comes out. 😂

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

They probably have far superior PC's.

[@djstef4549]

Ewwwew you play on console yuck lol

[@EduardSLVRU]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7juthey who re they? Xbox broke boys play Xbox for a reason, 1st Xbox broke boys can’t afford gaming PC, 2nd Xbox broke boys hate PS because PS always superior than Xbox. Also who would Xbox owners need a gaming PC if Xbox and PC has exactly the same library. Except a few games as Tarkov. Many PS gamers also own a gaming PC or many PC games also own PS. Xbox is. Dying business.

[@PhilippeCorthout]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju For what? To play the same games? There is really no reason to own an Xbox when you have a "killer" PC.

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

@@EduardSLVRU Xbox fans are Microsoft fans. Aka PC users. Aka the superior platform. PS5 is a toy next to a PC.

[@TurnaboutAdam]

I’m interested in what that enhanced backwards compatibility is that they mentioned. All PS4 games pretty much run perfectly. Will there be an FPS boost style upgrade? That would be ideal.

[@iamnotkurtcobain]

Remember when people thought Switch 2 will have no chance against a PS5 and Xbox Series? Difference between PS4 Pro and PS5 isn't that visible in games and PS5 to PS5 Pro even less. Switch 2 with PS4 Pro performance and DLSS will be fine.

[@Luke973T]

"Not noticeable" on a 1080p or cheap display...

[@SoulOnIce1983]

None of what you just wrote is true.

[@Lollerkid]

I hope switch 2 has as great games as the switch has. Nothing else matters for me. Not even portable/handheld mode ;) Nintendo is the one who made over a 100 games from 2017 on the switch as mostly exclusives so far. Most of them are rated over 7 points as user rating. Kinda tells everything. Editm: playing with a child almost all of them are couch coop games or at least has a feature like this in the gameplay implemented. I’d rather buy a 1070ish apu from nvidia/nintendo over the ps5 pro from amd/sony.

[@bradhaines3142]

switch 2 wont be close to a ps4 pro, likely about even with base ps4, and thatll be with upscaling to assist. you need to understand their wattage limit along with the fact nintendo doesnt ever really care about performance, they traditionally stay a generation behind so base 4 is basically right. like how the switch is closer to a ps3 (with devs working miracles for the game to even work on that thing) i know, switch has 4gb ram and ps3 has 512mb, but the wattage difference evens that out really fast.

[@undisclosedsteve6361]

You're saying it "isn't that visible," yet these guys who actually played the console keep saying there is a CLEAR DIFFERENCE. Like maybe watch the video you feel so inspired to comment about🤡

[@No-mans]

I haven't seen any blurry games on my ps5 what are you people on about 😂 .. are you sitting 2 inch away from a 77" screen ? ... im calling BS on the image difference.

[@wben7833]

Yet you can clearly see the difference, unless you're blind AF.

[@TranCeFORM3R]

The ps5 pro is a great entry point into hi fidelity visuals with all the bells and whistles that other consoles can’t provide enough said.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Lol a 500$ 4070 must be a excellent entry point then 🤣

[@GiBMan70]

​@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatnot really i wouldn't even piss on it Pro anyday. And GTA VI? Enjoy that in 2028/2029 😂

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@GiBMan70 Can’t see a PC port until they reach 30 million in 1 year maybe, Take 2 are all about numbers. So yeah 2 years after the console release.

[@TranCeFORM3R]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatthat is just the gpu, I played the original release version of Cyberpunk 2077 on a 2080s gpu, amd 3700x and 32gb of ddr4 ram overclocked it was awesome at the time, I didn’t understand the issues with the game or the console version because I had a great time. But now today my modern day computing is Mac based. The PC exclusive games that or non graphics intense are played on my steam deck, that’s why the ps5 pro exist to me.

[@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I mean, yeah but you gotta build the rest of the pc lol

[@Thunder_unit00]

With this AI called 'PSSR' in the PS5 Pro it should keep getting better right?

[@cluesagi]

Ngl despite all the negativity I'm looking forward to getting one

[@GiBMan70]

Negativity is the same old xbox, pc and poor clowns. Just ignore and enjoy your pro cant wait for mine too 👍

[@VexylObby]

Me too, when it is a reasonable price.

[@mrturbo84]

@@VexylObby Wait for the 6.

[@VexylObby]

@@mrturbo84 idk. I think the move is just to be OK with being one or two years behind in hardware. Wait for things to go on sale, etc..

[@yc_030]

@@GiBMan70 No way you're trying to flex 700 bucks lmfaooo

[@wolf585gr2]

7.00-7.15 battalia going for a stroke😂😂😂😂😂

[@herbertgaldamez9021]

If you think $700SUSD is expensive... I live in a place where the PS5 Pro may come around $1000 because of 3rd party retailers... Yet I'm thinking to buy it. Great vid.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Lmao, get a PC and stop wasting your money on these locked down machines

[@HenkBrandjes]

Pre ordered my ps5 pro. Its looks amazing 💪🏼 can not wait for November 7. But will the picture be better on my psvr2?? Thanks guys ❤

[@jacktyler1082]

OMG, not Sony hater Alex again. 🙈

[@TBK7]

nah he just knows pc is the master race console is for plebs

[@jacktyler1082]

@@TBK7 your comment shows who "the plebs is".🤣 btw grown ups aren't proud of their inefficient, overpriced and buggy as hell pc (i know what i'm talking about, got a gaming pc for many years), because they got so many things that are much more expensive than a gaming pc.🤷‍♂️

[@digitalXP13]

I know PC is threatened, Alex's face at 0:43 he is so salty!

[@ThorStoneGaming]

He's showing disappointment he wasn't able to see it. You are making stuff up and the only one looking like a fanboy here.