The PS5 Pro is a tough sell - PS5 Pro

[@TetraSky]

The only thing I am happy about the PS5 pro.... Is that scalpers who thought they could make a quick buck with the console are stuck with it because there's too much stock on the shelves and not enough demands.

[@fujinshu]

Finally! They get what they deserve, and it’ll be nice picking up a PS5 Pro for less than its RRP soon.

[@Glotttis]

Stock is already starting to run low in my country and it's not even main xmas shopping season yet.

[@Landlord1244]

Scalpers didn’t go for the pro , they went for the disc drive and I bought one from them

[@martineles7369]

Where do you guys live that you have stock? Here in Hungary, i preordered on day1 and my unit will be shipped on november 29 at the earliest.

[@Michael_F_81]

​@martineles7369 I can walk into any store local to me in the UK (Argos, Currys, Smyths Toys etc) and pick up the PS5 Pro without any issue. The stand is also available but the disc drive is out of stock in most places.

[@vinheim]

Like Maximilian Dood said, if you just have a regular PS5, buying an OLED TV (if you don't have one yet) would make a much bigger difference in your gaming experience instead of getting the Pro with a crappy tv

[@joelaguilera9157]

I agree

[@shinhayabusa6037]

In what video he said tgat?

[@vinheim]

@@shinhayabusa6037 It was in last night's stream, near the start. Right before he played Rebirth

[@willwunsche6940]

Monitors and TV's in general are really sometimes underrated upgrades. I almost feel like enabling HDR 10+ on my OLED monitor made a bigger difference in quality than going from low to epic setting presets in Halo Infinite on my computer 😂 and HDR 10+ has no additional performance cost it's wild. A good display does so much

[@WllKiedSnake]

Yeah! The Pro is for people with good TV's that unlock all the bells and whistles.

[@mcduvall2000]

It's not 200 more, it doesn't have a disc drive or a stand, it's more comparable to the ps5 digital...

[@rjc_notso]

😂😂😂

[@SSGoatanks]

People don't realize that they're going to have to buy another controller because the one they give you has stick drift issues 🎮

[@Astro-M0]

lol

[@ThisisDD]

Not including the optical drive at that price point, and then having the gall to call it "Pro" makes it a huge no for me.

[@jtwal88]

it would then be 799 if it had a forced priced point... the price difference is justified with the 2tb ssd and the power difference, and better ram type, wifi etc. just a few hundred more.. definitely a fair price difference.. you could argue they could have just kept with the 1tb ssd to keep costs down... but nobody can argue that the price difference for whagt you get is not fair.

[@varunaX]

@@jtwal88 sadly no one will notice the ram or wifi. no one. they will notice the missing disc drive tho

[@davidbrown6976]

It's almost criminal fr

[@WllKiedSnake]

If PS4 Pro came with a 1TB SSD back in the day it would also be considered pricey. It came with a 1TB 5400RPM HDD though instead. Cutting down the price but giving us the same slow load times, hitches and texture streaming issues.

[@kieran9882]

It’s £900 to have the disk drive too, here in the uk. The disk drives have been out of stock for months, unless you pay £200 for one on ebay

[@ligoku]

Maybe if you didn't have a PS5 yet and wanted to get one it could be worth it, but definitely not worth as a PS5 upgrade

[@vr0k3n]

800 bucks for a console is not worth it, ever.

[@blackowlhu2212]

@@vr0k3n you are right, in that price range a PC is a way better option

[@mrX666-s9p]

You are coping

[@realtuber101]

It's not worth it. The best way to save money on games is sales + used games, but this is digital only. They are FORCING a fee on you to buy a disc drive if you want your physical games again. They are disrespecting your NEED to save money(let's face it, we're at the point where this is true because everything is getting expensive.)

[@uroboloss]

It's so much more expensive tho, I don't think it's worth it even for people who don't already have a PS5.

[@jethrojacinto2798]

The PS5 Pro is an easy NO - this is the console we SHOULD have gotten in 2020. It's just a glorified and expensive hardware upgrade.

[@1080ilowres]

Yeah but then it becomes kinda a downgrade in some ways because the OG Ps5 had a disk drive, stand and was cheaper on release.

[@KaNe-007]

I totally agree with you. This generation has been a joke, ps5, being held back by the ps4 as it has the higher install base, and most of the games we are all playing on ps5 are ps4 games and well xbox is totally held back by the series s your right this is what the console should have been at release ive jumped to pc now wish I had done it sooner

[@NotRenjiro]

​@@KaNe-007Glad to see you made the jump. Enjoy!

[@sleeplessindefatigable6385]

While I agree with you that this is an expensive and mostly unnecessary upgrade, I feel like saying this is the machine we should have had in 2020 isn't quite right. Back in 2020 Zen 2 was still a very strong architecture and getting Zen 3 into the box would either have been too expensive or just impossible due to the time it takes to design and make a console. Then there's the fact that RDNA 2 wasn't even around when the PS5 launched, and is the best GPU line that AMD has made for years, with the only weakspot being the RT performance. Add on what was at the time a blazing fast SSD and a hardware decompression block, the PS5 was a killer deal back in the day. What changed, however, was games. Unreal Engine 5 is an onerous monster of an Engine that the people who made the PS5 were unlikely to have fully seen coming, while other games are now adding ray tracing effects to the core rendering pipeline. There's also the simple and unavoidable point that games are taking longer to make, and publishers are ever greedier, so precious time needed to make games run well just isn't being allocated any more. No previous generation has been left behind by the march of software design quite as hard as the PS5/Series X, and the PS5 pro feels more like a desperate attempt to catch up than a real upgrade people might want.

[@Superman-xr1oh]

​@@KaNe-007Yeah, what's up with the PS5 game library? It almost feels like a ghost town. This after we're now 4 years into the PS5's release. What in the world is going on?

[@JohnneyleeRollins]

its a no sell to me

[@Licensedbeast]

It's a yes sell to me

[@xpodx]

Same, id rather put 700+ more into my pc

[@electrikoptik]

“It’s a no sell to me” Translation: I’m a brokie and bitter

[@leeroyjenkins0]

Same, I don't play games

[@light3267]

@@electrikoptiknaah, we buy better products like a 4090

[@pinchofdoom]

IMO its actually a $250 price hike, as the Digital edition is $450, not $500. $280 if you want a disk drive.

[@Caspeaon]

The disc drive is 80 isn’t it? Making it a 330 price hike? And that’s if you don’t want the stand too. So you’re spending close to 800 dollars on a marginally better system at that point. What a bargain lmao

[@spitfyre1085]

Fair point.

[@Jeffdak1lla]

$310 if u want it sideways

[@arianadonis4099]

Seem to be forgetting the 2TB upgrade amongst the other better parts for the optimization of the system.

[@Caspeaon]

@@arianadonis4099 there were already storage upgrades available for the base model, I have one in mine right now, that’s not a reason to buy an entirely new over priced system. And the upgrades are cool but it doesn’t even matter in like 95 percent of the PS5 collection, and even if they are optimized for the pro, if you don’t have a super nice Monitor or tv you literally can not tell the difference from further than 5 feet away. Like it’s impossible to tell, All that for close to 800 dollars? I’m good thanks

[@Fallen608]

You lose the disc drive and get more SSD space so you can... pay $60 for a game that could be had for $15 on disc used... Is it still good value?

[@olzzon]

Yepp the fysical games are always cheaper and has second hand markets and the most important thing you actually own the game you buy from being taken down in the future

[@Mike-01234]

The fact that no way they can take the game from you. I paid for some movies on KZbin one day they were gone. After talking to KZbin I found out the distributor re-releases the movies again. This is how they scam you streaming movie is gone and have to pay for it again. While the movies were cheap I just thought it was a scummy thing to do never buy a movie again online.

[@cressothegrey4354]

My main issue is that the PS4 to PS4 Pro was a 100% performance increase at the same launch price while PS5 Pro is almost double the price for only 45% higher performance. And we know they can do better. Even in the PC market the RX 7700 XT is nearly 60% better than the RX 5700 XT and at only $50 more. So for such a small upgrade at such a massive price hike, it's a complete waste.

[@alaa341g]

Then don't buy ffs , why always complaining , its like the apple products , everyone complain about them , and between a serie and the previous there is no upgrade , but when we see sales , it always dominate , so don't blame the companies plz , cuz they just follow what consumers do ,

[@Jehty_]

@@alaa341g then don't read the comments ffs, why always complaining about people sharing their opinions about a product under a video talking about said product?

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

The higher performance on the 4 Pro was mostly wasted on high resolutions at identical graphics settings. The Pro offers 2-3x better RT, , 33% better audio and superior graphics with a sharp image using PSSR upscaling. Not to mention full RDNA 2,3 and some RDNA 4 features. 60fps on PS5 vs Pro is night and day. PSSR is the game changer here, it widens the gap beyond 45%.If Sony had simply increased GPU power the jump would actually be less noticeable, as native rendering would eat up all that extra horsepower, and that is exactly what happened with the 4 Pro.

[@minisculex3]

​@@alaa341g people complain so company can be better in the console

[@1080ilowres]

The Ps4 pro was worth it, I have one it was genuinely better than base ps4 and slim edition and it made sense since it was a transition to 4k tvs, it also keeps getting new games now so all in all a good investment. Plus the Ps4 pro still came with a disk drive. The Ps5 pro? Right now a total rip off. Like you say it should have been a minimum 100% performance increase. They won't do that so atleast package ps5 pro with the disk drive, stand and dual sense controller for that price.

[@Punisher6791]

I don't like that the gaming industry is headed towards a blockbuster scenario and getting rid of consumers ability to buy games physically in a store.

[@YourFriendlyGymRat]

If only you could buy the disk drive separately

[@bassyey]

They're just following PC gaming. I don't think I had a physica game in the last 15 years in PC.

[@abeld94]

​@@bassyeywith the only difference on PC You have múltiple digital stores, making prices lower and getting more special discounts. Having only the Playstation store Will create an sceneario they have complete control of the prices. Hell, I find cheaper games on disc compared with the digital versión. It doesnt make sense

[@trevorphilip9728]

@@bassyeymake the digital game prices on the ps store reasonable, then we’ll talk

[@fujinshu]

@@YourFriendlyGymRat Point is, not including the disc drive disincentivises people to buy a disc drive, especially at these prices, when they may as well just buy games digitally, which then further disincentivises publishers to stop producing physical games altogether for a console, which will give the go-ahead for the PS6 and further to get rid of the disc drive entirely or even the ability to even get one.

[@Friendly_G]

What i dont understand is, when youre buying the higher end version of something EVERY time it should ALWAYS being adding new things. Not. Taking. Away.

[@mobrocket]

Its sad that Sony couldn't even include a stand on their top console

[@WllKiedSnake]

I'm gonna lay it on it's side.

[@myvirus3079]

Yeah that is so damn sad

[@tristman8413]

I bought the pro and it is disappointing that there's no stand in the box

[@gameskyjumper1721]

the package does include tiny plastic piece for laying down sideway. And if you stand it up and installed disc drive with cover it's pretty stable, too. It's really kinda dangerous and needs an extra stand if you HAVE to place it vertically and digital only.

[@HenkkaMJ]

Use it on its side. Didnt need any stand for. Cut some acoustic panel and it sideways on it. Easy. No dosc drive. Well you can buy one. I dont need one ans if i some day want one. Ill get one. No big deal. Basic ps5 has only digital. New xbox series x is all digital. Its the way gaming is going, so you have a choice. Get on or not. I really have to say ps5 pro is really good. Psvr2 gaming looks miles better. No blurry picture anywhere.

[@Stronkbeans]

A great point was made in this video… if you aren’t doing a side-by-side comparison, you can’t even tell a difference. There is basically no reason to “upgrade” if you already have a regular PS5, especially if it has a disc drive.

[@Glotttis]

By this logic no reason to upgrade gpu, phone, tv...

[@doubledown4957]

@@Glotttison point

[@alaa341g]

By that logic apple would go bunkrupt , man the performance upgrade is there , its just that ps5 games are just too well optimized that you won't feel difference , wait till the end of this generation and you'll see the real difference between the pro and the base

[@kamo7293]

I can't even tell the difference when they are side by side

[@kamo7293]

​@@Glotttisuh no. for a long time I was gaming on a 750ti, and couldn't get new gpus. I just got a laptop that had a RTX 3050 and I can see the difference without the being side by side. moot point you have there

[@AutomaticSnake]

Worst console release on modern times. Terrible design. Overpriced. No disc. And barely more powerful than base PS5.

[@BTBSOUNDS]

"Terrible design" is highly subjective. I like the design a LOT and my base PS5 with the disk drive fits right into my setup. The rest tho? Absolutely.

[@Hatemode_NJ]

Xbox One and the original PS4's were the worst. They were barely mid grade PCs at the time with a meh graphics card and terrible CPU.

[@enashimo]

​​​@@Hatemode_NJI'd argue that for a console hardware doesn't and didn't really matter because they actually had games that backed them up. Sure they were bad but almost every console at that era had terrible og models. I have a PS4 and the fact I can still say that I'm not missing out on anything for the PS5 is kinda sad

[@teamofone1219]

@@BTBSOUNDSSure if you like wifi routers.

[@BTBSOUNDS]

@teamofone1219 we have very different wifi routers peanut

[@bgjck]

The price isn't necessarily the problem, the problem is the price without including a stand or disc drive

[@thebook5458]

exactly 700 usd gets up to 800 with that crappy stand and diskdrive at this point u can buy better pc which can multiple task .

[@mubarakalhajri582]

I think an extra terabyte of SSD is worth more than a stand and disc drive, as I don't really miss them with my PS5 Slim Digital Edition.

[@thebook5458]

@mubarakalhajri582 I mean the games man these cost 70 dollars a piece, which eventually releases on pc and gets cheaper over time .besides, ppl only spend money on live action games to modify their characters. Idk man I might be wrong

[@kirankara]

Digital also doesn't come with a stand now

[@5610idan]

Say that gay who spending $2000 for graphics cards alon 😂😂😂😂🖕

[@pixels_per_minute]

A hard sell is an understatement. The PS5 Slim + 1 controller, a disc drive, and stand is $800 AUD here in Australia. Somewhat reasonable. The PS5 Pro + 1 controller, but without a disc drive or stand, is $1,200 AUD. That's a $400 increase, and if you want an extra controller, a disc drive, and stand it increases to $1,530 AUD. A total increase of $730 AUD. For an extra $70, you could just get another PS5 Slim with all of that included.

[@WllKiedSnake]

You can wait for a sale also down the line.

[@Xusies1]

@@WllKiedSnake I doubt it, Pro consoles don’t usually go on sale, and even then a sale that’ll take maybe $150 off of that $1530 price tag still doesn’t change things much if at all for anyone (myself included) balking at something that costs roughly the same as a 7900XTX over here

[@WllKiedSnake]

@Xusies1 But they do go on sale?.... And build a PC then? You won't convince people who want to buy a console. To not buy one and to build a PC. And it's 699.99 for me. I can already knock £14 off it. I don't know that currency.

[@PlaystationGuy2000]

I was gonna trade my slim and 4 games I'll get mine for $574

[@DanDaMaN95cov]

But a fast 1tb ssd will cost over 200 aud. I bought a pro on launch cause I only had a base ps4. But I can't find a disc drive

[@andred212]

If this ends up selling well Sony's gonna charge $899.99 for the PS6 without a desk drive

[@chantow8657]

It's a tough sell because people know in another 2 or 3 years the machine will become obsolete and Sony will come out PS6 and right now paying $700 for it is simply not worth it.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

If this thing does well. The PS6 is about to be locked in at a $900 launch price. And the ponies will cheer

[@MrDummyisDumb]

In all honesty, this generation could go to 2030 easily. If so we're halfway through the generation right now which would track, we still aren't fully utilizing the hardware, especially so with these pro models. Let alone GTA 6 will be the defining game of the entire generation and it won't be out for at least another year.

[@TigerTT]

We're still stuck in the PS4 generation since they're still releasing games for it lmao. So then this PS5 Pro is truly pointless.

[@AdAstra78]

2 years?! Double that, man...& the Pro won't suddenly become 'obsolete' either. You clearly like your hyperbole.

[@doubledown4957]

2-3 years? Nah. 4 years it is

[@jordcoerse]

Note to editor: please do not put unnoticeable music with big bass freq in the background. It's terribly annoying with a subwoofer

[@antolepage26]

Although I agree with you, it's only really noticeable if I put an EQ for more bass.

[@MtnNerd]

So many KZbin channels do this. At least Yahtzee finally lowered the volume on his new outro

[@baronvonslambert]

My god this. I have both my PC and TVs connected to my sound system and I hate when I'm watching at a reasonable volume and along comes a video without the bass and sub-bass properly mixed and all of a sudden I'm at a hard bass concert because of their intro/outro or can't hear them over their background music choice.

[@WAMIV]

Turn off the subwoofer 😂

[@FOGoticus]

Studio grade headphones and DAC with balanced output. No noticeable bass boom at any point in the video. Your setup is most likely badly calibrated.

[@EddieGarciaVQ]

IDC who you are.. $700 isn't chump change to a man taking supporting a family. This thing needed to offer more than some sharper image. PS5 Amateur is capable but the developers are lazy.

[@Downsider24]

The laziness comes from the lack of urgency to optimize anything. With DLSS/FSR/Frame-Gen shit, the excuse is to leeway the task of optimization to "AI" and call it a day. I've never seen this degree of incompetency since PC gaming from the mid 2000's.

[@StarStarbreez]

the games are very limited the ps4 pro enhanced every game i had with hdr hdmi cable added

[@niklas6467]

950 dollars is absolutely the best price you can get a ps5 pro for right now so i don't know why people write 700 when it doesn't fit

[@upperdecker9992]

Now is the time to swap to pc

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

@@niklas6467 because 700 is literally what it costs

[@jinraigami3349]

This Concord Tax on the PS5 Pro is wild.

[@chrisking6695]

You think that’s it?

[@iliblabla]

@@chrisking6695100%. It is rumored that Sony spent up to 400 mill on this game. Now factor in the cost of the not-made-revenue and this because a hard pill to swallow even for a giant like Sony.

[@zakoohakoo9541]

Concord is the easy scapegoat, the truth is that Sony has been continuously failing to produce any kind of live service game as they were betting on those as their money makers as they aim to retain IP exclusivity. They lost as soon as they failed to offer a service equal to Xbox gamepass.

[@zakoohakoo9541]

The result of these continuous failures is to price hike. It will fail monumentally and we're likely to see whole swathes of Sony owned companies made redundant. They are sweating. Or worse, just preparing their own grave. It's an excellent stock to short at the moment.

[@teamofone1219]

And the terrible remaster on horizon forbidden west.

[@willwunsche6940]

It's the lack of a disk drive that bothers me most about it. Really don't think it should be sacraficed

[@WllKiedSnake]

Should have offered a bundle with a disc drive included.

[@Lost_lucario]

yeah and prices barely going down on their digital stores doesn't make it any better

[@Highlander77]

You CAN get a disc drive for it still though...they just didn't make a version with the drive included, because it probably doesn't make sense to have two different SKUs on a niche, enthusiast item like this.

[@willwunsche6940]

@@Highlander77 Yeah. That said for an enthusiast item I just think it should be included for this type of customer. Playing any physical games you already had, game sharing, cheaper prices of physical are still meaningful to some people. I can understand what you are saying though. I just think long term this bodes poorly for us as consumers, and digital game pricing which ironically was sold to us as a way to make games cheaper since they didn't have to be manufactured or distributed.

[@tristman8413]

Over 80% of ps owners buy their games digitally now so don't think most people will be bothered. I might get the disk drive later though

[@dpc4548]

"Do you have a PS5 Pro yet?" I don't think anybody does. Nor are many planning to get it. The PS5 hasn't made a case for itself yet. So, why pay more for something that offers so little? $1,200... no drive... no stand...

[@Kirianda]

you could get a fairly decent pc for 1200, ps5 pro is just not worth it

[@dpc4548]

@@Kirianda I love my ps1, ps2, psx, ps3s and ps4s, but I can't recommend the ps5 to anybody. There's no reason to own a ps5 instead of a pc. Let alone the crazily priced pro. Astro is great, but a system seller?

[@justyourfriendlypal]

ps5 pro is worth it if you dont have a ps5, if you want a tinier console get the ps5 slim it's much better if it's smaller

[@dpc4548]

@justyourfriendlypal why is the ps5 worth it? What does it offer over the ps4 or a pc? 30 to 60fps from the ps4? Astro?

[@kingtonyy3163]

​I paid 400 for ah pc to mix music on, stable 100 frames in warzone n I jus snatched ah better gpu n cpu for 50 each off my kousin who jus got ah 4090 n ah new cpu. He got stable 140 on tha parts I grabbed, so I feel like I'm winning rn fuck tha p5 I was dribblin on mfs wit 60 frames on my p4 lol

[@DubsOwnly]

Everytime Sony hikes the price, they just get more people to buy a PC. Part of this is from Xbox not having a pro version of the series x, so Sony is getting greedy. Consoles need to stay a loss leader, the PS4 Pro at launch was $400. The PS5 Pro at $700 is still way above the rate of inflation. Yea def a pass on this one.

[@brandonparris6148]

I’m one of the people that got into pc gaming because of console greed and bullshit

[@whytho5666]

they literally treat their players like sheep. and most of em keep eating Sony's 💩 . they love it. but yeah, if they're happy with it then so be it.

[@niklas6467]

950 dollars is absolutely the best price you can get a ps5 pro for right now so i don't know why people write 700 when it doesn't fit

[@csnyder6997]

Exactly what I did. I do not regret it either 😂

[@BaconTopHat45]

@@niklas6467 MSRP is 700 USD (950 CAD) and it's deferentially available for that right now. Just checked Best Buy.

[@SanderEvers]

No disc drive is a no buy for me. And the disc drives are sold out everywhere right now (except for scalpers, who are asking 4x the price)

[@alexmendez3681]

Scalpers ruin everything.

[@HAGZ0483]

They'll release drives more, the extra ssd space is a nice bonus tho, this is the first review I've seen that mentioned it.

[@lordspalse0062]

@@alexmendez3681it is Sony that ruined everything

[@Glotttis]

You should have stopped buying that plastic junk long time ago. Writing was on the wall for a long time that physical is going away. It will be more and more inconvenient going forward. Now my library is fully digital and I don't need to think twice about legacy nonsense such us bluray drives and discs. Just log in on the new console and all my games are right there waiting to be installed. So convenient.

[@1080ilowres]

@@Glotttis But all your games have become worthless upon purchase. And you can't share them anymore without comprimising your account.

[@ImARealHumanPerson]

I made a stand for $0.50 by using gorilla glue that I had around the house and attatching a $0.50 ruler to the bottom.

[@riconobin]

Sony has really become the 'Apple' of gaming console...

[@paulius197907n26]

They are best. Can do what they want. People still will gonna buy

[@Glotttis]

@@paulius197907n26 It's none of your business how people spend their money and you should be under no illusion that you have any control over it. So just stop trolling

[@Testifyyy]

​@@paulius197907n26they really aren't

[@mrglasses8953]

Sony has been the Japanese Apple since at least the late 80s, the PS1/PS2 were exceptions as they were new to the console market. Steve Jobs even modelled Apples rebirth in 1997 on Sony.

[@yphong1986]

@@paulius197907n26 but please don't over...they are the best because of the supports from gamers and game developers.. if more and more people not affordable for PS and switch to other platform such as PC, Xbox and Nintendo, game developer also will started put less focus on PS

[@davidbrown6976]

The og ps5 with the disk drive is the best value right now.

[@19HajimeSaitou91]

It's 667 gb

[@Vor_Tex_Sun]

yep. I have that and have PSVR1 and PSVR2 rigged up to it and love having disc versions for games

[@vujhvjvgvfujk9888]

I would rather have a full terabyte and pay a little more for the slim

[@Glotttis]

PS5 Pro isn't supposed to be the "best value". Just like Galaxy S24 Ultra or most expensive iPhone isn't the best value. Or a fast sports car.

[@Jmack1lla]

It makes be appreciate my disk drive ps5. With the 2tb nvme i got for 120 in there, its all it needs to be

[@forlatagate1]

Ps6 won't come with a disc drive, power supply, stand or controller, the ps7, you're going have to put together like a raspberry pie, buy in it bits

[@Shadow0464-ey9eh]

The backlash on PS3 price was so controversial that Sony had to lower the price of the console much later. Now, they made a 700$ console with slightly better performance + separated disc drive + stand, which comes close to almost 1000$, and yet they're going unpunished? No consequences? The game industry is so freaking screwed.

[@Space97.]

Bud thinks 700 is close to 1000 🤣 it's more closer to 500 than 1000 and Xbox sold 2tb console at 600$ without the upgraded GPU with that in mind that should easy your concerns about the price and no it's not slightly better it's a 50% performance to visual upgrade

[@Pasi123]

@@Space97. It's $700 without the disc drive and stand. When you add the drive, stand and tax then it is close to 1000. And that's in the US where it's cheaper than elsewhere.

[@mravg79]

Wait for the next gen. They will not price it below ps5 pro. Oh it will be fun times. More competition is needed on this market.

[@evanwestendorf9667]

The PS3 price was the price for the base console, that you HAD to buy if you wanted to play on PlayStation. The PS5 Pro is an optional edition of the console, and the digital is still $399 and the base is $499. There's a BIG difference between these two scenarios

[@Sammy-qt9it]

I dont think the price is that unreasonable, yes you are only getting minor visual improvements but the graphics performance is significantly improved it's just that Sony games were already very well optimised. The tech itself costs more than on the ps5. Inflationary pressures will mean that Sony will have to increase the price, not to mention the fact they were already not making any money on the physical ps5 itself, they can't really reduce the price any further. They should definitely included the stand though but they may have still have had to price them both together at the same as it is today.

[@premiumaccount5300]

The way Linus dumped it out the box at 00:22 😮

[@SomeoneNone123]

If it survives shipping in the box, it survives this little opening. It still in the box' insides!

[@ItsFreeVRealEstate]

When $700+ literally means nothing to you

[@nicho9761]

😅😅😅😅 well deserved

[@asxphxss]

Fitting treatment for the PS5 pro

[@krayozmines]

Like hes just dumping out trash..💀💀💀

[@antonybasta1591]

00:00 Introduction 00:01:00 PS5 First Impressions 00:01:48 Exploring PS5 Pro Enhancements 00:02:57 Exploring Advanced Ray Tracing 00:03:43 PS5 Pro Features Overview 00:04:30 Console Compatibility Concerns 00:05:36 Sponsorship and Comparison 00:06:26 Graphics Mode Trade-offs 00:07:38 Discussing Gaming Graphics 00:08:28 Comparing FPS Modes 00:09:12 Adjusting Game Settings 00:10:05 PS5 Pro Performance Evaluation

[@Brian_L_Griffin]

I'll stick with my PS5 slim that's sitting on the closet waiting for Christmas. 😊

[@modelrailwaynoob]

I'll stick with my gaming PC

[@Eric_Eric_Eric]

@@modelrailwaynoobok

[@Eddycut]

Why do you have it sitting on the closet for Christmas? Just use it already lol

[@burd7455]

@@modelrailwaynoob Man, why are yall so insecure? lol

[@AClown]

Mines in the closet too lol but mines a pro because my partner loves me 😉

[@tibimarin]

such a hard sell they had to put it twice in the title.

[@somebutter6755]

At this point most people don’t have TVs that can take advantage of the regular PS5’s performance, let alone the Pro’s.

[@biomedical2915]

It is a very good device, the problem is the price! Ps5 was released nearly 4-5 years ago, this should have been 500 dollars considering it also loosed the dics drive.

[@X82YT]

It has been that long? For me it feels like it has been on the market for like 2 years. I blame the virus for it.

[@ThisisDD]

4 years

[@Highlander77]

Unfortunately, the price of electronics hasn't really dropped though. The Switch is still $300. The Xbox has remained the same price. New PC graphics cards just keep getting more and more expensive, rather than releasing at close to the same launch price as the previous gen cards with the old cards dropping in price. This is just the way things are now with gaming hardware, apparently.

[@anthonytitone]

@@Highlander77the individual disk drive is $80, if you get the PS5 slim with disk drive it’s $500, & if u get PS5 slim without it’s $450, can’t they at least let PS5 pro buyers get a disk drive for $50?

[@MAIKUS07]

@@anthonytitone maybe a Black Friday deal?

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

Probably gonna buy it, but my TV in livingroom is a 83" OLED TV with a bit over 3 meters viewing distance. If my "fov" would be less filled, than i wouldn't care about it, i guess.

[@Pakitorocker]

What I hate most about the pro is that us that were there on day one with the original PS5, have the most expensive upgrade path, because if you have the slim with disc and stand, you can use them with the pro. But if you bought the original PS5 with disc drive, you can’t use it with the pro, neither the stand. It almost feels as if being loyal to Sony got you punished, now I have a library of physical titles (Rebirth among them which is probably the one game that actually shows a noticeable difference) that I can’t use with the pro unless I add another $80 to buy the disc drive. And Sony didn’t even bother to add another Pro model with disc drive included because would why they do that if they can charge you separately

[@StarStarbreez]

100 in uk

[@racalot2003]

womp womp

[@csl750]

What makes it 'professional'? EDIT: you guys in the comments are funny 👍

[@okay3364]

They added "pro" at the end of the name

[@deathsyth8888]

The price

[@peskybirb7217]

Pro is short for professional

[@JayStillYung]

It’s nothing but pure marketing

[@seppothedestroyer731]

you need to be a professional to see the difference

[@Sillysillylittleman]

$700us is $1069 Australian dollar. The ps5 pro is $1200 in Australia

[@fujinshu]

Have you considered tax? The USD price is without tax.

[@Sillysillylittleman]

@fujinshu ah shit I forgot about that man that's annoying they don't include it in total price

[@fujinshu]

@@Sillysillylittleman Well, it’s because every state has different sales tax laws and taxes, so it’s just easier to give a price excluding tax, so the states can apply their own taxes.

[@mitsuhh]

Add 10% GST tax in Australia

[@frenchonion4595]

That's why your healthcare is "free"

[@jesterz4635]

How the fuck is it a pro console if it doesn’t have a disc drive

[@lilqiqi619]

Sad reality is that the ps6 will be $800 or more.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Yup, Sony better buckle in and keep making PS4 games since they shot themselves in the foot with console pricing.

[@DizY_8]

What's sadder is, unlike the PS3 era, a significant number of people will happily pay the price :/

[@NoName-qd6vp]

a lot more than that with Trump's tariffs lol

[@1080ilowres]

significantly more. ps4 was $400 at launch ps4 pro was $400 at launch ps5 no disk $400 ps5 with disk $500 ps5 pro no disk no stand $700 you see where it's going... I'm calling it PS6: $1000 (disk and stand sold seperately)

[@nathanl4417]

Laughs in Steam

[@chillachriz27]

Most gamers have had their PS5 for maybe a year or a little longer. We were promised a console that has never been seen before. The fact that they are now releasing a Pro version that is more powerful and even has better graphics is the joke of the day. The PS5 Pro was supposed to be the normal PS5, which is exactly how it was advertised. The fact that they want €800 for it is a slap in the face for everyone who has a normal PS5. But as you can see, there are enough idiots out there who will immediately throw their money at Sony.

[@1080ilowres]

I doubt it this time around scalpers are already having trouble getting rid of their stock. The Ps5 sold well based on the strength of the ps4 games. The Ps5 pro won't be able to sell well based on the strength of the ps4 games again.

[@StarStarbreez]

need remind you it's certain games it enhances only and i don't care about that roster so it is a pile of shit regardless the ps4 pro enhanced every game with a 4k hdmi cable added

[@theshakter]

Not having a disk drive is a bummer

[@alext6933]

Horizon? That one game nobody actually wants to play?

[@pentacosttb2565]

You said ‘they somehow found a way to give Tifa even less clothes’ like it was a bad thing.

[@Al-mu4ff]

As a disabled veteran on a fix budget, I can’t see the justification for the upgrade…

[@ZachMauch]

I honestly believe this is Sony testing a new strategy. They see how these consoles often sell out and get sold on the secondary market for markups. They are trying to capture that early adopter markup themselves. I predict this will VERY quickly see a the official price drop. Probably shortly after Christmas, and maybe by as much as $200.

[@mitsuhh]

No way it gets a $200 price drop

[@mrsniffleupagus]

@@mitsuhh very clever thinking but unlikely. They wont devalue the PS5 or Slim on a wave of extreme inflation.

[@NoName-qd6vp]

I hope you're not an analyst in your day job.

[@mitsuhh]

@@mrsniffleupagus replying to the wrong person?

[@Zzzlol94]

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart automatically enables 40FPS in fidelity on a 120Hz VRR input also on PS5.

[@milkmanchannel1]

After seeing the side by side comparisons from people who arent sony, Ill admittedly say it is a bigger change than I thought it would be. With that being said, its not a $250 difference. Also, if it wasn't side by side, I wouldn't be able to tell

[@sambobrooklyn316]

Gt7 plays smoother on the ps5 pro ive played 630 hrs on the ps5 and the difference in no frame rate drops and sharpness is good.

[@mzulhilmi4506]

This on 1080p or higher res? I have a 1080p monitor so i dont feel like going for the ps5 pro over ps5 slim.

[@AndreyStevn]

@@mzulhilmi4506 Not even worth it tbh

[@Downsider24]

@@mzulhilmi4506 Definitely not worth it, and not even still with a 1440p monitor - Considering that GT7 performs more than adequate on the base model, so much so as it somehow manages to do so on the PS4 Pro - Unless you rock a 4K Display that's an absolute beast? PS5 Pro is pathetic.

[@navyvet05]

Yea but that difference isn’t worth $200. You’re basically paying for more storage, that’s the real draw of the PS5 pro.

[@sambobrooklyn316]

@navyvet05 to me it's definitely worth it.

[@daniellagrue8286]

Here in a Australia the ps5 pro is $1200!! It's a $500 mark up for us!

[@samiraperi467]

Is that AUD or USD?

[@sippycupjoe3247]

It’s because Australian dollar is weaker than USD.. if you convert it, should be the same..

[@anonymoususerinterface]

your dollar is like half my pound, so no crap its a 500$ mark up lmfao. (Not saying its reasonable, saying that ofc its a diff price for a diff currency)

[@activeyaw]

Move to Azerbaijan, it's a lot like Australia but a bit less sunny and the PS5 Pro is really cheap there.

[@pixels_per_minute]

​@@sippycupjoe3247If you just do a straight conversion from USD to AUD, it would be, but that's not tha case. You need to go USD to AUD + 10% GST. It technically should be around $1,150 to $1,160 AUD, but it's not. There's an extra $40 to $50 AUD slapped on there from... somewhere? to get it up to $1,200 AUD. Regardless, that's still a lot of money. Even here in Australia.

[@navyvet05]

Who cares about the GPU upgrade. It’s basically a negligible difference, you won’t notice any boost in performance over the base PS5. The PS5 pro is just a cash grab, if you’re unsure about which to get, get the base PS5.

[@someguyusa]

The Pro is very clearly a luxury upgrade item. I already had a PS5 with a disc drive and a stand, so I would have zero need for those two extra components. They are designed to be modular on purpose. I am thoroughly pleased with the performance improvements. On the Pro, I've played Armored Core 6, Helldivers 2, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Elden Ring, Lords of the Fallen, and Spider-Man Remaster all with very clear performance improvements. The games are smoother and sharper in significant ways. I also understand the market, the features added (PSSR is a big deal, man, seriously, most people do not appreciate what this means moving forward), and the state of the global economy and inflation. The price is reasonable, if a little bit high, but still not nearly as bad as all these complaints are suggesting. If you're unhappy, then you're simply not the target market and that's okay - everything isn't about you or intended for you.

[@rangersnut]

Niche product = Niche sales from the whales and the gullible. Now it's out in the wild people are reporting problems with PSSR is God of War, Star wrs outlaws and Jedi survivor.

[@someguyusa]

@@rangersnut Calling people a whale or gullible and naming a common issue with the overwhelming majority of game related launches is not a valid argument. It's just you spewing rhetoric. As if it isn't common for most games today to have issues at launch. Please. You're just grasping for a reason to hate the product. Besides, I already noted a handful of games I personally played on it that are awesome with the Pro.

[@mrsniffleupagus]

@@rangersnut gullible? Calm down if someone has money to burn and don't give a shit if its a small upgrade (which its not) then what is the problem. Maybe you're the problem.......

[@RKramer105]

The fact you can easily get these without preordering tells you all you need to know $200+ extra not including the disk drive is a HUGE issue for most.

[@RossTheNinja]

Thanks Sony. I'm going to get my first gaming PC.

[@brandonparris6148]

I LITERALLY did this and I’m soooo glad I did I’ll never go back to console

[@wewantmh]

@@brandonparris6148 literally thinking of buying a pc rn

[@brandonparris6148]

@@wewantmh all I can say is do your research don’t just listen to one person and have an idea of what you want out of it and the best of and latest and greatest isn’t always what you need ….and don’t go too cheap either

[@wewantmh]

@@brandonparris6148 of course got a friend on that as well it just feels better to have everything in one rather a laptop and a ps5 idk maybe im thinking of selling it

[@RossTheNinja]

@@brandonparris6148 hope it goes well. I've got my list on pc part picker and am waiting for black Friday. Only ever bought laptops and consoles before. Getting my brother to build it but will be attempting any upgrades.

[@NoLifeArcade]

Welp this sold me on NOT, getting a pro. I’ll save my money and just buy a SSD to upgrade my tried and true and see if I can finally get an OLED TV to get the best visual experience possible from the OG PS5.

[@georgekn3mp]

Get a C4 42" OLED. It's cheaper than a PSP 5 Pro, based on Black Friday deals.

[@banisherblade]

Way I see it, PS5 Pro isnt a compelling enough upgrade that people who already own a PS5 should get one. People who should be considering it are people who dont have a PS5 yet but want to, and even then I'd argue to wait for a price drop. Or the PS6. Or a pc if you dont care about exclusive/can wait till they all get ported to PC.

[@danthebee27]

1000% agree

[@lasthopelost9090]

Except some console game companies can’t port to pc well

[@softlock231]

@@lasthopelost9090 That's why I bought a Pro. It's a great middle ground to play games with God Awful PC ports. First 2 games i'm playing are Silent Hill 2 remake and FF7 Rebirth on mine. I'm in a very privileged situation where I can afford it, but I understand it's not a standard consumer option. It's an enthusiast option. But all I spend my money on is food and gaming so.

[@captaincrunch7944]

no if you dont have an oled 120 hz 4k tv than the pro wont really make a difference from base ps5 ......you gotta have the right tv to even see the upgrades

[@daves8718]

@@softlock231 Ive played all the sony pc ports and all seem to rum fine , I think a lot comes down to the variation of hardware and dare say end user . I agree consoles are a good middle ground for those whom just want to sit down start the console and launch a game.

[@miichaellangelo]

In Australia the PS5 digital is $350 Aud right now

[@miichaellangelo]

From target

[@Mechanoid]

1:42 Best words ever spoken about this.

[@Cup_of_Joe13]

"Don't buy it" Nuff said.

[@DonaldVale]

I'm surrounded by idiots.

[@ferrimusbueller]

Almost sad this wasn’t sponsored by DBrand… 😢

[@Metal_Maxine]

I was rather disappointed. I decided to watch this on YT precisely because I was hoping for some Linus trolling.

[@TrygveJohannSørensen]

The 120fps we never got, still has not shown up 😅

[@cjeffcoatjr]

I was waiting on the PS5 Pro to buy into this generation. I still use lots of physical PS4 games and Blu-Rays. An $80 add-on for a disk drive is a kick in the teeth. Anyway, my refurbished PS5 from Sony's website has been great so far. And for half the price of what I would have to pay to consume physical media on a PS5 Pro.

[@AdAstra78]

I hear you that the $80 is an annoyance, on principle. Still, in the grand scheme of things, I'm surprised so many people see it as make or break. It's hardly a bank-breaking amount. Really annoyed me having to buy one separately, but hey. Not as annoying as it'll be when our only option is paying digital prices. Scary prospect...

[@1080ilowres]

@@AdAstra78 it's not just an annoyance though... Digital games are very expensive try getting a bargain basement games like NBA 2k20 digitally? Digital market pricing is slow to see reducing prices. Also the moment you buy a digital game it becomes worthless and you can't sell the game or share it with friends without compromising your account. Also most PS4/5 users have games on disk's which instantly become unplayable unless they keep their old console or buy the disk drive. Your talking about forcing a totally new eco system to consumers.

[@melonmelon2848]

1:11 RIP BRUH, how can you recover from that critical hit, pray tell, we need to know how to heal, especially now

[@Mirtual]

Guy who's never heard a self depreciating joke before

[@melonmelon2848]

@@Mirtual yeah, sad for you too

[@Mirtual]

@@melonmelon2848 huh

[@internziko]

I've been watching Linus sell out for almost 5 years. And I'm honestly really tired of it.

[@Adventures_EC]

8:08 this is bad guys. When even the colors in the menus look different then it is not about pro of not. It is about your setup. This comparison cannot be correct

[@mutant69]

They didn't even mention colours. They are talking about visual quality.

[@Adventures_EC]

@@mutant69 no, they did, and even if not they presented fully different color profiles on two monitors and so everyone looks at them thinks the same

[@Gabriel30071999]

It is a way to make the ps5 pro look better with just better colors... I didn't like it either

[@Cobretti_GTI]

Steps to have a PS5 PRO with a Disk Drive---- 1- Buy a PS5 Pro 2- Buy a PS5 Slim with Disk Drive 3- Put the Disk Drive from PS5 on the PS5 PRO 4- Sell the PS5 Slim without the Drive 5- Be happy with less money and with almost the same product!!!

[@anmolpanwar6338]

Step 1: Buy a separate disc drive (yes you can buy separately) Step 2: Use it on Pro

[@Cobretti_GTI]

@anmolpanwar6338 they are all sold out hahahah

[@rsbkey]

I hope nobody buys this shit, so greedy Sony goes back to the drawing board.

[@JohnnyX262]

Thats a no for me chief. Im not going to reward this behavior from Sony

[@bullet996]

Sony should revert back to the good old PS3 days where PSN wasnt required for online gaming.

[@d007g4]

That would never happen sadly 😩. Sony make a shit load of money off of paid PSN charge service

[@prich0382]

Sony shit themselves in the foot multiple times during the PS3 era not having paid subscription to play online, hacked multiple times, less reliable than Xbox live, was just worse overall as a service.

[@fillsbury8304]

Those were NOT the good old days, did you even play on PSN back then? I remember PSN before it became a subscription service, I'd be lucky to actually connect to a game, and if I did more often than not it would be laggy or the server would shut down mid game. Meanwhile on my Xbox 360, while Xbox Live cost money it worked so well, it was really night and day between the two services. But when Sony started charging for it, all of a sudden, they had to provide a decent experience.

[@megmucklebones7538]

A big F'ing no. No Disk Drive does it for me. It's not the price point, I mean - if you game and you have the money, so what, but making you pay extra for a disk drive needs to be held in contempt. I've just paid out £4k for a new computer, so I'm ok keeping my PS5 original thanks Sony.

[@Ratorix]

can reach 900€ in europe... at this price you will get a PC that can do a lot more things, and even just gaming will be at a better quality...

[@varunaX]

its well over 1k CAD after tax. its remarkable

[@johnjohnson7743]

Where, it's €800 here

[@anakinskyguy6582]

In the caribbean it is 1,200 US, trading my ps5 slim digital they're asking for 560 dollars difference.....

[@SwissFenyx]

Only reason for me not to upgrade is the non existing disc drive and stand ...

[@AdAstra78]

Ypu can get both for $100. Sony are cheap assholes, I get it, but c'mon...it's hardly gonna break the bank.

[@-Burb]

@@AdAstra78 Might as well just get a PC when you’re spending $800 for a console that they literally had to do a side-by-side to see any differences with the previous PS5 version.

[@AdAstra78]

@-Burb I hear you, but having a PC in a front room just isn't isn't an option. Way too cumbersome. Anyway, having cone from a PS4, this new PS5 Pro is ticking all the boxes for me. It's great.

[@-Burb]

@@AdAstra78 Why is the PS5 Pro an option in the front room but not a PC? There are many PC cases of similar size or smaller than the PS5 Pro. I don’t really know why 90% of people seem to buy a massive ATX box with tons of empty space tbh, MiniITX or MicroATX do the same thing but are much more compact (and microATX is even cheaper too)

[@AdAstra78]

@-Burb I appreciate PCs aren't necessarily huge grey towers anymore, but still, in a front room, tucked away under the tv and thr blu ray player (etc) it's just gonna be waaay too intrusive. Plus, setting everything up, configuring settings etc etc. To be honest, being able to just pick up a controller and press 'on' is far more preferable. I appreciate that convenience comes at a small price price, but it's one I'd rather pay.

[@re_stricted]

“They somehow put even less clothing on Tifa” this absolutely sent me 😂😂 Those beach outfits for Aerith and Tifa are for a specific part of the FF7 fanbase for sure 😅

[@Chirp_Bunny]

I can confirm that OLED does help, as for the PS5 pro, just save your money for something better.

[@vincentandrews6230]

Oled TV with base PS5 vs LED TV with PS5 pro..which is better?

[@AM-wi6zo]

​@@vincentandrews6230 oled all the way. Thats like saying PS4 pro vs Ps3

[@vincentandrews6230]

@@AM-wi6zo 100% I have an LG CX myself with my base PS5. Plus I’m sure Sony hasn’t shown us every ounce of power the base PS5 can do just yet.

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

I have A95L and OLED is way better than any LCD.

[@wickstorm_records]

It's a GTA 6 Machine for 30+ yo men with a stable income like me.

[@TartanLad]

It's only 700. PC's can cost upward of 3k.

[@nathanwood3814]

High 5

[@noel4140]

Hahahaha preach

[@nicholasholloway8743]

​@@TartanLad3k plus? You do realize that's the price for a pro gamer PC? As in all the bells and whistles? You can literally buy parts and build your own mod tier gaming PC for what they want for the console, stand and drive lol. Face it folks, it just isn't financially viable anymore and PC to s the way to go

[@urik7793]

Can you turn it upside down vertically

[@smashed_penguin]

5:38 Austin Evans did tear it down and his video released little over a day ago.

[@mattjax16]

Pre shot bud

[@smashed_penguin]

@mattjax16 Then why didn't they knowing roughly how long the video would take to produce, tear it down anyway knowing it would be published after when it's ok to show the internals?

[@CragScrambler]

And some random nobody's did it 3 days ago. Must be sponsor NDA shnizz.

[@lovelydumpling]

It feels like people forget that there was a discless PS5 for $400. This isn't a $200 upgrade its a $300 one.

[@cosmic_gate476]

The plebs will buy it anyway and gloat about how affordable console gaming is 😆

[@Starfrighter]

I think one of the biggest problems is, that the price of the original PS5 to this day did not really fall that much. So Sony thinks they can get away with upping the price by 200-300 bucks. If the PS5 would actually cost around 350 bucks now, Sony could easily price the PS5 Pro with a "reasonable" 500-600$ tag. Since the normal PS5 is still almost 500 bucks - basically the same when it released, there is no possibility for it to be priced accordingly. Also: Considering that the majority of hardcore gamers (who would actually have an interest in the pro version) have probably a disc version of the OG PS5, there is even less an argument for those to upgrade from OG to PRO. If I would actually want to upgrade I 'have' to buy a disc drive, cuz all my games (excluding a hand full of indy titles) are on a disc, not digital. They would be useless unless I go all the way with the external disc drive. On a side note: Cheaping out on the stand for a price THAT high, is almost criminal! You can not tell me, that the margins on the console wouldn't allow for a stand to be included. In general I feel like the PS5 Pro just isn't worth it. At all. Its a hard sell for people already owning an OG console and its a hard sell for people wanting to get into PS gaming. If you havent gotten into PlayStation yet, the PS5 Pro "might" be an option though, since you can just ignore the disc drive and wait for digital sales to come up. Remember that you have to pay a monthly subscription to gain the full digital access that makes going digital only worth it in the first place!

[@onlynexus]

How is it a $200 price hike? It's $250... is my math off?

[@WllKiedSnake]

2TB SSD and all the the other bells and whistles.

[@JoeyLegendd]

"$200 PLUS" that just means it's more than a $200 increase...

[@maj4530]

ur right

[@DavidA20200]

I’m absolutely disgusted. It’s still only 32 gbps HDMI port so tv colors at 120hz look washed out. Another disappointment is that the console is still only 1gbe for LAN. On a pro machine that’s not ok. Even your cheap PC motherboards nowadays have 2.5 gbe LAN. Yeah, they can put Wi-Fi 7 which basically nobody has yet and I would argue people would get more use out of a 2.5 gbe LAN port. All I can say is this has been a very mediocre upgrade and an expensive one too, so it’s a hard pass for me.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

most people connect wirelessly

[@DavidA20200]

@@Boss_Fight_Index_muki well just because most people do something doesn’t make them right it just means sometimes all the fools are on one side. I’m OK if they upgrade to Wi-Fi 7, that was actually a really good move, but they shouldn’t just ignore the LAN port, especially not on a pro machine. I excused it on the base PS5 because it wasn’t marketed toward enthusiasts.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

@@DavidA20200 my bigger issue is it needs the disc drive.

[@MrN080DY]

in turkey price is 1750$ avarage salary guy need to work 4 months full salary than get ps5pro

[@damiencrossley7497]

I got a working ps3 switch and a computer thats not dying anytime soon. Why bother!?

[@Мирич-з4е]

I like how console players cry about the PS5 Pro being $700, while in PC gaming only the GPU is $700. Some of the GPUs like the 4090 are even up to $2500. And when you add the CPU, motherboard, PSU, RAM, SSD, and case, you went bankrupt. While console gamers can buy a 4K gaming machine just for $700.

[@nicholasholloway8743]

With discount part houses and the fact you ain't got to upgrade all the time, it's far more financially viable to build your own PC. Besides what you're describing is Top Tier Gaming PC

[@Johnny.1994]

Wait till Switch 2 is released. Anyone thinking of upgrading from the base PS5 to the Pro is better off saving their money for the Switch 2 and playing on two consoles instead. And for new buyers Switch 2 + base PS5 for the same money you'd pay for PS5 Pro alone is more VFM. Swirch 2 will demolish PS5 Pro sales. Not the base PS5 model sale numbers for these reasons but only the Pro.

[@DrathVader]

2:39 kinda like XeSS huh

[@11xrayranger]

XeSS is just too immature at this point to be enjoyable in most games. The only one it actually does good with with outlaws. Running an arc a750

[@mukundkaul1037]

I'll wait for ps6

[@greeny8214]

I bought the pro for GT7 VR. You can tell the difference in power and it has actually speeded me up a little. The road is more solid but it takes a while to appreciate the better graphics. The last of us part one looks a lot better, I am more than happy. Over 20 years ago I use to spend about 1k on a new graphics card for my pc every couple of years so this complete system for £700 is a bargain. If you have an up to date 120hz TV or play GT7 VR this is really nice to have, if you are on a budget then stick with your old one. Nothing wrong with the standard PS5

[@askeladden450]

This is a perfect example of why PCs are more cost efficient than consoles. You could have bought a $700-$800 PC with a 6700xt a few years back that performed better than a $500 PS5. Now, you could have upgraded that PC to a 6800xt for $400, compared to $700+ for a PS5 Pro. Now add price of PS online services. So for less price, you enjoyed better performance on the PC (barring poor ports), modding support, unlocked fps, with a much wider selection of games, peripherals and ability to do other tasks. And you can upgrade the PC to a PS6 equivalent in the future too for cheaper (maybe a used 7900xtx). Consoles are great for comfort and convenience but I hate it when people recommend them based on their price. If you are strapped for cash, go for PC.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

Dude, pc gamer here, i get it's aggravating sony has as much control over 3rd party devs as they do, but it's a bad idea to fudge the numbers. If you are gonna use 2nd hand prices for pc parts, say it, then compare it to a 2nd hand ps5. Also, consolers don't play mobas, mmos, hero shooters, etc at any where near the same ratio as us. they mostly stick to single player games, like 90%+ of them, so ps+ for them is an optional thing.

[@mitsuhh]

You're comparing used PC parts in America only to the price of the console

[@NineS5]

6700xt? during the covid shortage? No way. In 2022 maybe, but it still would have cost €400. Even the PS5 Pro was scalped to shit. Then add a €100 1TB SSD, Motherboard, CPU and RAM which were more expensive back then and I'm certain that it would have been more than €800. People who are buying a PS5 don't know wtf modding, fps and other technicalities. At €500 it was perfect for normies. PS5 Pro has no target audience. No one's gonna buy a €800 console, and people who want better graphics will buy a PC.

[@mitsuhh]

@@NineS5 Pretty sure most gamers know what framerate is and mods

[@askeladden450]

@@Boss_Fight_Index_muki where tf are you going to buy used ps5 pro today buddy?

[@Chewyness]

I am not buying any console that doesn’t have a disc drive or some kind of cartridge for the games, I want my games to be playable forever like the original NES

[@AdAstra78]

$80 and your problem's solved. It pissed me off too, but it's hardly expensive.

[@faaizx]

@@AdAstra78paying 80 dollars for something a console at this price point should include is absolutely stupid 💀

[@AdAstra78]

@faaizx Yeah, it is stupid, absolutely. Sony are greedy shits, but I wasn't going to miss out on upgrading because of an extra $80 or whatever. If you really want to stick your middle finger up at Sony, keep physical media alive.

[@Chewyness]

@@AdAstra78 it’s $80 now for a add on that’s should be included in a $700 console, and next time there won’t be a add on option that’s what they’re all pushing for

[@AdAstra78]

@Chewyness I hear you, the principle here really sucks. Still, the best way of pissing Sony off is to buy the disc drive and make sure they know there's still a big market for gamers who are against paying their extortionate online prices. It's the best way of saying "F*ck you".

[@BladeEXE67]

It is so pro that we did not include optical audion, again! 👍

[@brandonpayne1207]

The ps5 was the reason i finally got a pc for gaming. I waited for the slim models to come out with the ps3 and 4 but i couldn't do it with the ps5. I bought my first gaming pc last year and ill probably never buy a PlayStation again. Dont get me wrong, i still love and have all my old consoles and games. They aren't going anywhere. Not until something brakes and im forced to emulate it to play.

[@lucasbirlson8710]

I am in school learning how to work on airplanes and would love a video of you guys getting some variation of the computers in planes for the auto pilot, flight director etc. to see what they are using to run these programs and to learn a bit more of the specifics of what is being used in aviation. Pretty niche but i think it would be a really cool idea. Ideally some out of one of the larger jet aircraft in like a 737 MAX but they are incredibly expensive, like +$250k. I'd like to see how much all the hardware would actually cost to "make at home" if possible.

[@nickypelo8553]

sounds like a niche request. the audience benefits nothing from your suggestion

[@ourasiaexpresso6447]

Sony wants us to buy that and all the disc games we already have for the ps5 can't play on the pro without the disc drive that isn't available yet ?so that we can buy it again in the PlayStation store? I think this pro will sell badly.

[@kevindie]

*_I love my Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Pro._*

[@thejoker5755]

Idk about that I've seen a lot of people on Twitter bragging about buying it and saying it's the best thing PlayStation ever done etc. so many people already glorifying and justifying this purchase

[@EliTheCraziest]

Copium I guess

[@hqew6662]

Yeah and calling people poor if they think the value proposition isn’t worth it 🤷🏻

[@electrikoptik]

Bought it and it is the best console experience bar non. Stop being a bitter brokie.

[@ochitokes]

Objectively it is the best console ever made

[@thejoker5755]

​@@electrikoptikon my second PS5 because my first one was running hot playing Bug Snax and died on me. Not Shelling out $700 more to "Upgrade" well $800 because I'd need the disc drive

[@darthadonut6285]

Tough sell is being nice. It's a No sell. Anyone that buys this is just flexing their wallet.

[@Kavyatej]

linus, oil up