John Storey interviews Casey Costello - Founding Trustee of New Zealand’s Hobson’s Pledge

[@user-wp4iv8iu3h]

Well said. As 4th generation new Zealander and born of this land I am a kiwi who believes one Law equally applies to all

[@kathleencook3060]

Great Interview. I liked the calm, civil, respectful manner between the Interviewer and Interviewee! Thank you both. Wow as usual our PM has deceived the Australian Public.!

[@margaretsmith7712]

Thank you both for presenting and alerting the public on dangers of changing the Australian Constitution......

[@pamh1648]

I would love NZ to go back to being a New Zealander, not a Pakeha, or a Maori or any other race - New Zealanders. Everything else is dividing NZ. I also hate that we are getting lots of unelected officials who don't deliver anything and you can't vote them out. Needs based not race based would be good.

[@andreapaki3727]

So what your saying is you want to go back to the days of colonising Maori so that its a Pakeha world! Those days are over, we wont be acting like Pakeha because we are not Pakeha. You cannot change one ethnic race to be like another

[@karentorkar8256]

I agree with you. There are a multitude of New Zealanders who migrated from cultures all over the world. We have willingly made the adaptation this culture and this brings us the benefit of being able to communicate with much of the world, with ease. Maori in Hone Heke's time had more insight than the Revisionists of today.

[@karentorkar8256]

​@@andreapaki3727Think very carefully. The agenda for "indigenous" people is ultimately a cynical conversion to a form of Marxism. That's what I'm reading and hearing from various sources. The divisiveness and polarisation is the strategy of the totalitarian societies. Plenty of examples can be seen around the world. Ignorance is bliss.

[@jameswright2974]

@@karentorkar8256 when Rome do as the Roman’s do when in New Zealand do as-the Māori does my friend even their neighbours Brain dead USA’s puppets Australians upset with The Māori Want join the 4 idiots

[@patriciatehaate236]

No thanks

[@gtau3144]

Division in NZ is only just getting started. Naieve well intentioned people are producing a hell.

[@winnielai7455]

Everyone who’s thinking about voting Yes to theVoice should watch this!

[@gjamieson1956]

The Devision has already taken place ,just the suggestion of this proposal for the voice ,if it was to be successful for the yes vote , I hate to imagine how the other 97% will react, will not be pretty, the damage has already done,

[@michelejackson2184]

This interview should be televised in the main stream media. It will answer all the questions people may have.

[@mandelbro777]

Unfortunately, almost all treaties are signed with the understanding that they will improve the position of all parties involved, but quickly become soft legal underbellies allowing the erosion of human rights completely out of the scope of the original intents behind the treaty. As such, treaties of all kinds should be avoided like the plague and equality under the law with a focus on well constructed national laws should be the focus. The idea that different groups of citizenry within a nation should be bifurcated on identity (racial or otherwise) grounds, and then be made to sign a treaty with each other which will be exploited by special interest groups should be anathema to all right thinking people.

[@harrycopeland8322]

This needs to be broadcast publicly as a warning for what could happen with a successful Yes vote

[@ozwunder69]

Cope harder.. Liam kiss

[@patriciatehaate236]

You don't have a say or a vote over our Treaty settlements free speech is not a say

[@wayneiremonger1635]

Eyes Wide Open Australia..Well said Casey Winston and NZ1st is so Lucky to have you now to get 20% of vote and perhaps a couple more Minor Independents like Freedom NZ,NZLoyal,NCP, It is possible..But To Get change we must first be that change..

[@alistermacpherson7120]

Dreams are free

[@jasonpoihegatama1347]

Funny how woman were able to vote before woman were able to speak on a Marae

[@robertmiller2173]

As a South Island Pakeha who is a Proud ANZAC Please Aussie Vote NO.

[@olsaffa7679]

Let's just say it: "Native", "First Nation", "Tangata Whenua " are devise terms. Whoop, whoop. Some ancestor got somewhere before someone else's? Big deal. Now you're demanding separatism/seperate development/Apartheid?

[@leighmurrell5494]

There is a lobby in Australia. Just investigate the National Indigenous Australians Agency that reportedly represents all of the needs of Aboriginals. It has a 21/22 budget of $5.7 billion and 1300 employees. Is that not a lobby group...on top of all the other groups, Councils etc.

[@dopydiddly7622]

Apartheid

[@user-uy9oi3lj3f]

Yup - street signs in another language - 9/10 of the population wouldn't understand it - there's no language dictionary and spelling guide been invented for more than 5 years (no words for "police car) in the old lingo - kids in primary schools have to learn it - just what they need when they migrate to Australia - history being rewritten to take account of "cultural sensitivities" - heaps of "trusts" and "authorities" to look after lucrative " cultural treasures' - the only thing the halfwit government haven't invented is a "National Guidebook To Perdition".

[@Investment_Hedgehog]

Yup, I feel completely alienated in my own country

[@colinjohn2708]

Key words " never satisfied".Colin John.

[@neilstuarr2278]

Pigs at the trough

[@RageAgainstTheMachine.]

#StopCoGovernance

[@richardburian2516]

Thankyou for showing the similarities between our 2 countries.

[@sisiphas]

There are significant differences - mainly that Maori are not indigenous in the sense that Australuan aborigines are. Maori also colonised the land in the way the Brits did…just a bit earlier.

[@michelekett8450]

@@sisiphas It’s more a matter of how long a group of people arrived. The Māoris came from Hawaii when most of the land was submerged about 3,000 years ago, populating a lot of the islands as they moved through the Pacific. It’s possible that the Aboriginal people came from India over 50,000 years ago. The fact is that if you are born in any country, you are indigenous to that land. The energy of a country is part of your being. Ultimately, all human beings are derived from the same source, the Cosmos, and it’s where we return to after one of the many lifetimes we have on the Earth we helped create.

[@AndrewSmith-ir1ui]

41 minutes is a fair bit to listen to. Any chance of publishing a transcript of the content? Better still, send a copy and a summary to every journo you can get a hold of.

[@wendyhone6538]

Hit on more next to 3 weeks it will open up details of the conversation

[@AndrewSmith-ir1ui]

@@wendyhone6538 That tells us about the recording, but isn't a transcript of what was actually said.

[@lechenaultia5863]

'The losers in this are the people most in need'. That is the core issue. The day after the referendum it was back to treaty, truth etc and not 'what are we going to do TODAY to stop generations of children being born with FASD ?' Thanks to Ms Costello for her very clear explanation.

[@phonkstanate]

What a load of divisive racist Hobsons Pledge garbage. Racist British colonisation and a racist Westminster system caused nothing but misery and destruction of our once beautiful country of Aotearoa and its indigenous Maori. Maori killed off in interloping British wars, Maori land loss and confiscation. List goes on....

[@andyoakley7372]

You need to trim the Outro from the end of the video. Apart from that I trust the Australian people take heed of what Casey has said, there is no doubt you will divide your country just as New Zealand has become divided.

[@manamaori100]

To be divided you must first be united, we've never been united! You only need to look back at our history over the last 180 years.

[@johnshanks251]

Well spoken and be can be one of the countries in the world when we be come one people one country . The country must get over this going the to the Waitangi Tribunals to get money were is the money gone. New Zealand cannot keep paying money to lawyers who are sucking money.

[@user-jg6ge7ps4z]

prime minister Casey Costello

[@lu-uf8zj]

Do we have to acknowledge a co-governance regime as lawful, or can we just reject them?

[@ayjaynz1875]

We can't change the past wrongs & savagery from both sides , but we can teach a better future for our youth. Apartheid is the wrong path forward and will only cause resentment, friction, & conflict. One people one Nation. The separatist activist are only feathering their own nests.

[@jasonpoihegatama1347]

So what has happen to the reparations?

[@williamearnshaw410]

What reperations do you think Maori deserve?

[@Kult365]

​@@williamearnshaw410give back the stolen land for starters.

[@williamearnshaw410]

@@Kult365 what stolen land....wheres your proof it was stolen? If the Govt did repatriate land then they are in their rights to demand the billions of dollars that was paid in settlements to be refunded....😂 Elite Maori in NZ are a big joke...they have brainwashed you all into thinking what they say is the truth of events!!!

[@Kult365]

@@williamearnshaw410 free education for you, 1,200,000 hectares stolen in the Waikato alone. Need more examples?

[@williamearnshaw410]

@@Kult365 and furthermore....how exactly has these past events affected your own personal responsibility for your own actions and lifestyle choices? You expect to be paid to live and looked after your entire life from cradle to grave as a supposed "victim" ?

[@shaneshawwilliams4512]

If you look at the people in need , Maori far over represented . In a country they they owned alone 200 years ago you would think it would be the exact opposite. But they were lied to after the signing the treaty which was ignored for a century .There land was conned and taken from them in many many cases ...This women is a tabacco coroporation adovocate who has jut been forced to apoloigse for lying and covering up the new govts pro tobacco policies where they argue that nicotine is no more harmful than caffine....DO NOT TRUST ATLAS NETWORK operatives...they are trained in doublespeak by North American right wing think tanks

[@NormanMacritchie-bv3ju]

Change government can help newzeand First party the best for all newzeand

[@phonkstanate]

Yawn. John Storey might help if he actually learns how to pronounce te reo Maori properly then we can take him seriously

[@lilianabracanov239]

Yeah remember the legal sales of regulated synthetic cannabis in dairies n the like...too many suddenly hanging around the shops all day all night

[@user-yd6sj3pe4j]

U are the land owners of NZ Maori Australia land owners is aboriginals What is a difference between aboriginals & Māori ? I have done extensive travel in Australia but not NZ

[@Quentin-br5kl]

Who are these two people??where are their credentials to be talking on such matters.she says that Maori was waring against each other-true, and the treaty brought peace to these wars-wrong!! It was the gospel that spread through Maori communities like wildfire that brought the peace between the tribes not the Treaty.

[@johntehiwi114]

Use haven't told the truth about te ika a maui the genocide n the aboriginal native tittle this country is based on genocide maori are mori ori

[@furryfuzzy307]

Tribal warfare is ignored in Australia.

[@johntehiwi114]

@@furryfuzzy307 immigrants don't own land

[@helenflouch]

​@@furryfuzzy307 not by each different mob. They hate each other.

[@totran5606]

New Zealand 👍… And My Counrty First!

[@erina4586]

GOD ALMIGHTY Owns Aotearoa-NZ. Righteousness and Justice is the Foundation of Govt. 1840 - Ariki (King) Paramount Maori Chief 'Te Kani A Takirau.' Never Signed the Treaty of Waitangi! 1840 - Queen Victoria, did she Sign the Treaty of Waitangi? Two Sovereigns from two Nations. Britain and Aotearoa (The Land of the Long White Cloud) Govts are supposed to be serving GOD and the People. Not foreign rich peoples. We need a Godly Govt in Power that will not bad mouth, DEFAME, insult, mock, treat unfairly, rob, hurt, traumatise, anger Maori Nation. That will UNITE Maori, Pakeha and other Foreigners in Aotearoa-NZ.

[@jameswright2974]

The Māori found out the colonials brain was Not that tasty

[@gregg7617]

Greeting's Casey , My Friend 🙏😎🎱💀⚔️🕊️😘 Do or Do Not , There Is No Try mmmmmh !🕊️ This Is The WAY !⚔️🕊️ GOOD FORTUNES My Friend 👍😎🎱👽💀⚔️🕊️

[@johntehiwi114]

Blood money

[@adriandocherty778]

U say no to co-governance but u have 3 parties co-governing the country!! 2 Elite Maori leading the charge. 😂🤣

[@troyb1278]

Kefe buaaaaaarch

[@johntehiwi114]

A karoha who's fault is it

[@ozwunder69]

Ghina IPA.. 2.3 millions over 24 months said the high court and wouldn't elaborate beyond that not consider the video evidence nor said transcript in final court decision (gazumping the verdict) for the relevant IPA honorary member smelly pell

[@deantairi8357]

funny how your preaching this in another country trying to score brownie points call yourself a new zealander

[@petertimp5416]

Parallel to feminism as well

[@jameswright2974]

Colonialism alive and well but disintegrating

[@jameswright2974]

Colonialism skull duggery

[@jameswright2974]

The colonialist steal the minerals

[@jennycasale7402]

The colonialists kill the world with their mining

[@Paris45627]

She forgot to tidy her hair

[@Investment_Hedgehog]

If that's all you have to say, then I feel saddened for you

[@Kult365]

She looks disheveled, very unprofessional

[@jameswright2974]

Why colonials still carrying guns ????

[@Investment_Hedgehog]

Why are Maori carrying guns?

[@jameswright2974]

@@Investment_Hedgehog Because thier invaders still carry theirs the Māori Like North Korea not that stupid to give up nukes while their invaders have theirs as in Ireland 300 yrs still ready to give the royal parasites a blood nose if they await to stay in ulster

[@michaelmarshall3672]

Do the crime do the time

[@Kult365]

Sad to see the colonial gravy train still chugging along. We live in an age of misinformation and this piece proves it. Mana Maaori Motuhake 🫶🏽