John Walker Kills a Flag-Smasher with The Shield Scene [No BGM] | The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[@Blast2224]

What made me hate Karli so much was her constant contradiction of her motives and actions. She "doesn't want to be a villain" yet the moment she meets Bucky, she *smiles* at the thought of getting to fight him. She acts like she's this ultra powerful all knowing leader...but that's only if she has lackies holding down men for her. If you corner her, use firearms on her, or take away her plan, she suddenly tries to pull the, "I'm just a little girl. I'm scared. I never had a chance..." card. You can't blow up a building full of civilians and be seen as a scared little girl. You can't punch a man and break his neck, *flee afterwards* and be seen as a symbol of unity.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Yeah she is very annoying and what's pisses me off even more is that Sam symphatizes towards her and making excuses by saying she is just a kid and tries to do the Naruto talk-no-jutsu technique towards Karli but yet he hates John Walker who already saves his ass from Flagsmashers just because he is Captain America. Which is dumb and completely so stupid

[@nicholasgreaves1]

@@Blast2224 Exactly, no one acted honorable except Sam & Bucky, Oh! The Dora Milaje too👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@nigachu8249]

Antifa behavior.

[@EGRJ]

A lot of actual terrorists and extremists are like that.

[@nicholasgreaves1]

@@EGRJ Yep 👍🏾

[@un6250]

Still don’t get how we were supposed to sympathise with Karlee and the flag smashers. They were annoying and insufferable

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Agreed but what's more annoying is that the writers tries to make John as the bad guy/asshole instead. Even Sam tries to sympathetic towards Karli and her gang who is a terrorist but yet hates Walker only just because he is Captain America which is dumb and completely so stupid

[@dogswifty7800]

@@dimazfantasy5252 why Sam hated John becoming Captain America doesn't make sense since it was him who turned down the shield bestowed on him by Steve but I understand why Bucky would hate Sam and John because of rejecting Steve's legacy

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@dogswifty7800 Bucky hate John because he was a Captain America and the shield was given to him by the government when it was should've been for Sam instead.

[@marcosrenann9288]

Bcz Sam live both worlds and he knows Karli its just a kid who does not fully understand what shes doing. Basically she is what Sam could be if he takes the other side...

[@BRONZALiVE]

Those were the worst part of the show, the other stuff with Isiah Bradley was actually far better handled even if it was very preachy, compared to the flag smashers nonsense that was miles better

[@danielgrafton93]

I think this show wanted me to feel sympathy for that ginger lass. But by the end of the series I though she got what was coming to her 🤷‍♂️

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

If anything it made Falcon and Bucky seem like assholes since John did nothing wrong and even saved their ass on multiple occasions even after they told him to screw off. Im fine with him being treated like a joke but being treated like a villain?? Tony has done far worse to non-superpowered terrorists who definitely surrendered.

[@LakeLee-r1g]

Ehhh.. that doesn't excuse stark.@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897

[@ashishhembrom3905]

​@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897Tony was the only avenger who made up for what harm he did.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Agree they tried to make Karli and her gang of Flagsmashers a sad and sympathetic and i don't understand of how Sam thinking they are not terrorists and tries to make peace with them aka tries to do Naruto talk no jutsu technique to her which is very naive while Walker on the otherhand is smart than Sam he is the one who saw Karli and her Flagsmashers gang as a threat to the world and they needs to be stopped.

[@joshuacrisanto7419]

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 "Tony has done far worse to non-superpowered terrorists who definitely surrendered." can you remind me what exactly he did? im having trouble remembering him killing terrorists who surrendered cuz what i remember is there's one scene in IM3 when he's escaping and fighting the guards when his suit comes piece by piece, there was one guard who didn't shoot at Tony and he said he hated working there and Tony let that guy go.

[@baconsir1159]

“It wasn’t me!” Bro you tried to help kill John like one minute ago. Which is what led to Lemar dying! Dude is so full of shit.

[@goukeban6197]

No more full of shit than the people acting like Walker was the bad guy here.

[@Political_Brainrot_Auditor]

Flagsmashers are the most embarrassing antagonists the MCU has ever come up with. The fact that they tried to make the audience sympathetic towards them is totally laughable.

[@NoCallerID70457]

Who the fuck is your "bro?"

[@Political_Brainrot_Auditor]

@@NoCallerID70457 Is this really the first time you’ve seen someone use “bro” in this context? Or were you just in a bad mood and needed to start a nothing-fight?

[@NoCallerID70457]

@leftoids.are.cringe Nah it just sounded stupid.

[@EarlOfLemongrabb]

Bro your techno at the end killed the scene

[@axelpacheco7470]

New caps murder scene had an outro💀

[@harrystone728]

All his videos are shit because of how he edits the audio and his awful music at the end.

[@Kate-ct3nc]

that kills me. wtf was the reson to put this shit in the end

[@quocanhtruong6706]

agree =))))

[@midnighteagle8907]

Nah I think it capped it off nicely

[@huntercool2232]

John Walker’s back must really hurt from carrying the entire show

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@huntercool2232 nah, he had Bucky, Sam and Zemo to do that.

[@gabrielaragon9562]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 they were extra weight in John's back

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@@gabrielaragon9562 they actually got the job done

[@T.Chopper_]

John Walker is an anti-hero.

[@АртурАртуров-ф4ю]

Zemo and Bucky too.

[@huntercool2232]

Karli is probably one of the most hated and unlikable characters in the MCU… and for good reason. The writers tried so hard to make us sympathize with her, but they did an AWFUL job because she’s just so irredeemable.

[@Kaprosuchus-99]

Ironically, we sympathized with John more

[@huntercool2232]

@@Kaprosuchus-99 absolutely

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@huntercool2232 and yeah and what's more dumb is that Sam even tries to symphatize towards her making an excuse of saying "she's just a kid" and tries to use the Steven Universe (we don't have to fight you can redeemed yourself) or use the Naruto's talk-no-jutsu technique to Karli but yet having despise towards John and treats him like crap despite after John saves his ass from the Flagsmashers. Just because he was a Captain America which is dumb and completely so stupid writing

[@Endru85x]

"Stop calling those people terrorists" is one of most shitty lines ever said in all MCU. Sure Falcon, blowing hospitals and such can be excused because.....uhh they were kids fighting for some cause....and uhhh Walker whacked a guy who killed his friend. The preaching is way too obvious in this series.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

I hated how the writers tries to make John an asshole/hated character but yet they tries to make Karli and her gang of Flagsmasher terrorist to be symphatizes. And Sam was an idiot he symphatize towards Karli and her flagsmashers terrorist and have an excuse to say she was just a kid and tries to do a Naruto talk-no-jutsu to her but yet hates John just because his Captain America is just literally just dumb and completely so stupid

[@user-SmudgiMoto]

Walker's action was a basic Human reaction. Let me explain, when a loved one (sibling, close friend, etc.) is killed (especially in front of you), rage, hatred, bloodlust, is all you seek. And unless someone is there right next to you to stop you, more often than not, you don't realize the damage/destruction you've caused until the deed is done.

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Also lets be real, Steve has done the same just not infront of civilians, and Tony has done far worse, popping into a room, saying hello, normal non-superpowered terrorists drop their weapons and hands up, tony blows em' up anyway. John Walker did nothing wrong and did alot right too, the only "wrong" thing is maybe not letting the civilian exploder go to a court but even then he could easily have taken a civilian hostage.

[@LakeLee-r1g]

Yeah, that's the basic fascist and broken explaination people use to explain things like that. And while I can't say what all cap might have done in the comics because of different writers, i can defend him by saying that many writers don't stay true to the characters. Like the one time Superman used his heat vision to somehow enter someones brain and magically locate and erase the part of their brain that gave them super powers. While there's few even decent explainations for all of his powers over various incarnations of superman, it's just not something he wouldnt have done in that situation normally. Read me clearly, if you have lost control, you have lost control. That is bad, period. While you can look at a situation and say, "We can empathize and understand" it does not justify these actions. There's a difference in say, manslaughter and premeditated murder. So in simply leting him off for murder, you'd basically be no better than an accomplice, if this had been real. Hold the coat while others throw the stones, you don't deserve to be let off either. @@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897

[@OK-yy6qz]

There's sympathising/understanding and then there's excusing though. If a normal person "loses control" and kills someone that isn't even fighting back that's murder. If a person of authority does that then it's suddenly not murder?

[@hidan407]

​@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 Yeah I hate how some takes shots at Walker for this, But forget steve fought in a World war, did everyone think he just bonked them in the head and gave them a time out? Captain probably has the highest kill count of the whole avengers

[@LEGOC-3PO]

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 That’s not what happens with Tony at all. He busts in the room, they start shooting at him, then he incapacitates them, he doesn’t kill them. He says “good talk” right after and it cuts to the people writhing in pain in the ground and someone replies “no it wasn’t” Tony didn’t kill them.

[@crawlinggoose]

0:59 Ah yes, brilliant idea to engage in knife combat with the fucking Winter Soldier. Room temperature IQ moment.

[@SuryanshShrivastav5110]

That's exactly what I thought, like WTF is wrong with that guy.

[@jesusaraiza9787]

fucking idiotic writers decision, HE HAS A FULL ROBOTIC VIBRANIUM ARM, which serves as besides an arm, as a shield and blut weapon

[@indra-ty9iz]

@@crawlinggoose at that time, WS perhaps arent well known to public so its understandable tho

[@thiccchungo1041]

Why did he do that flip it was completely unnecessary 😭

[@zulucruz664]

I love that in the room there are basically two Avengers veterans who survived apocalyptic situations and those bad guys didn’t even think of that as a sign to flee

[@DreadPirateRoberts121]

The stupidest part is they tried to make captain America have a no kill rule when Steve Rogers was stacking bodies in France during WW2

[@williammcguire130]

Walker was ten times as interesting a character as either of the title characters of the show were.

[@dogswifty7800]

Bucky had a good arc, Sam trying to sympathise with the Flagsmashers was just ridiculous

[@M1chael42O1]

@@dogswifty7800 maybe. But it feels like something Steve would've done. Tried to defuse a problem before resorting to fighting. And with Sam being a counselor for soldiers as established in The Winter Solider it feels in character for him to try and reason before fighting

[@mote_kela7127]

@@M1chael42O1 Steve likes to talk but as soon as hands are thrown he doesn't hesitate to get dirty + it ain't in character at all for falcon. Walker is a vet who went through multiple episodes and yet falcon didn't hesitate to beat his ass and steal the shield off him

[@BRONZALiVE]

@@dogswifty7800yeah, Buckys arc was great, and Walkers was by far the best, he really wasn’t a bad guy, he apologised when Lamar died to his family and tried to dig the right thing and come back, as for Sam his story with Isiah was fine, and him showing that a black man can become Captain America, but the whole “you’ve gotta stop calling them terroristz” and sympathy for them was just so stupid, they tried to make him this morally righteous man but to the extent he just went to was silly, and very uncap like

[@rashadlewis8345]

Walker wasn't interesting at all and Bucky looked washed up im guessing Sebastian didnt workout Sam was the only one that played his role and Bradley of course

[@mathisntmybestsubject8440]

I'm just sorry it wasn't Karli that got smashed by the flag. 😒

[@nicholasgreaves1]

I know, at least Zemo got the rest of them at the end. I was so happy when they got arrested, and the van blew up 😊

[@Chaoticduuude]

U want the flag to go inside of karli?

[@cald1421]

This really gave me the Boys vibes and I was here for it

[@saatvikkalra6061]

@@cald1421 except that would make for an interesting and engaging film, which the modern mcu is incapable of making lmao

[@Kaprosuchus-99]

John: (kills the terrorist that helped Murder his Friend, and tries his best to save Innocents even when faced with the option of Killing karli in the finale) The writers: I diagnose you with Villain

[@toby3630]

Even if I hated that the writers wanted us to feel sympathy for Karli even after she literally is a terrorist and murdered innocent people like she was just misunderstood. That is something very realistic with John Walker.

[@knightmare5097]

@@Kaprosuchus-99 Even still, it was a violation of hors de combat, and not something that Captain America does.

[@playername9391]

​@@knightmare5097not real the dead terrorist is a supersoldier, they're existence means they're a weapon

[@knightmare5097]

@@playername9391 But they were not a threat at that point.

[@playername9391]

@@knightmare5097 a supersoldiers existence means they're a fucking threat to anyone, and these people are willing to kill civilian's

[@zaiz6018]

The worst part about this series is how Walker was the bad guy, but the literal terrorists are the good guys.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

The series never did that

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@tobsonasanya4765 well it shown Sam tries to be sympathetic towards Karli and even tries to do the Naruto talk-no-jutsu technique or Steven Universe (we don't have to fight, you could still redeemed yourself) even he talk to the Senator by saying "you better stop calling them terrorist" which is BS. But yet hates John Walker despite after John saved his ass from the Flagsmasher and tries to be nicer towards Sam & Bucky to be working with each other. Just because John was a Captain America which is dumb and completely so stupid

[@AnakinDripwalker18]

Cant blame john here, they killed his best friend like he was nothing and he dint deserve that

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Not to mention superpowered terrorists who target and blow up civilian buildings arent really people who deserve much pity, like nazis. John did nothing wrong.

[@wormer104]

They killed his friend like they were in a fight with three known skilled combatants and did not want to tangle with a potential 4th.

[@juliangonzalez4038]

It was super stupid to have a regular dude who couldn’t hold his own there anyways

[@juliangonzalez4038]

@PhoBos_____ falcon has fought in the big leagues before. He knows what he was going against and has fought a blood thirsty winter soldier twice.

[@FabulosoSpray]

​@@juliangonzalez4038They nerfed the fire out of him. In the comics he was a 10 ton level class hero.

[@Political_Brainrot_Auditor]

Walker did nothing wrong. He was the fallen hero of this story.

[@82fire28]

The problem with him killing the guy is not really the kill but location he did it in, foreign land surrounded by witnesses recording it. Captain America uniform and shield is meant as an American good guy symbol it does not matter who he was fighting for the most part the kill looks bad for the country image that Captain America symbolizes be it a truth or not.

[@assaultgaming6614]

@@82fire28 not to mention the timing of everything all people saw was John kill the guy but nobody knew the reason why although that probably don’t matter but it’s always nice to know the context

[@82fire28]

@@assaultgaming6614 Yup, people just see it as brutal killing, we got a front row seat and may feel for him but in world that's a bad image.

[@rashadlewis8345]

Nope

[@Political_Brainrot_Auditor]

@@rashadlewis8345 ya

[@criticalbil1]

This show was all over the place.

[@joscar062]

Better handled than wandavision andloki

[@Jdn.A]

@@joscar062 WandaVision I agree with, Loki is awesome though

[@editor7354]

Not even imo but I loved it

[@noahgraff-uw8rs]

Some of it sucked, but some was fricking awesome

[@Jwingmann]

That ginger assassin girl was the WORST part of the show

[@MikeEdwards-j9g]

That's the critical drinker called her, "ginger plank of wood"

[@BRONZALiVE]

When super soldiers like Walker and Steve wield the shield the fight scenes are way more intense and fast, compared to Sam’s ending fights when he becomes cap, since he doesn’t have the serum what he does with the shield is limited, which sucks

[@workingman9019]

Sam sucks as cap! No one is going to watch captain falcon 4.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@workingman9019 dude how Sam sucks ? We literally just only see him as Cap in episode 6 of FATWS. Honestly gave the man a chance to be the next Captain America to continue on Steve's legacy, i honestly excited to see Sam's Captain America

[@workingman9019]

@@dimazfantasy5252 You gotta do better! That speech was so stupid. He didn't say anything that could help anyone! Also he sympathized with Karli the terrorist.

[@rashadlewis8345]

😂😂😂😂 Walker looks goofy asf with that shield now same flying with the shield...Amazing Bradley and Sam carried the show

[@dimazfantasy5252]

​@@rashadlewis8345bruhhh John carried the series even i like him more than Sam and Bucky than their own show. He was the best part of the show

[@cesaralejandro7725]

I honestly feel sorry for Lamar he didn’t deserve to die

[@workingman9019]

Right! That was his bro! You have to get revenge on someone who kills your bro!

[@sponge8406]

John is goated for this scene lmao hes like one of the only good charters in this show

[@trollfack2966]

He's the only good character in the show

[@joscar062]

​@@trollfack2966 Zemo as well

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Yeah agreed he and Zemo was even more interesting and cooler than the two main protagonists on their own show

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@trollfack2966 Sam, Bucky and Zemo were cool too

[@rashadlewis8345]

Walker was trash

[@zulucruz664]

I love that in the room there are basically two Avengers veterans who survived apocalyptic situations and those bad guys didn’t even think of that as a sign to flee

[@CaptainChapin]

Want a John walker series 😂😂

[@FerretJohn]

He'll be leading the Thunderbolts in their big screen movie, July 2024

[@CaptainChapin]

@@FerretJohn you sure about him leading? I think that might be yelana

[@joscar062]

​@@CaptainChapin People be saying it's bucky

[@66ordolupsjediklon14]

@@joscar062 Kevin Feige himself said Bucky will be a leader of Thunderbolts..

[@workingman9019]

He should be leading! He has the most military experience like cap!

[@patrickspencer6550]

Flag Smasher - Jameson after No Way Home Walker - Me

[@amilakumarawijesena5002]

"It wasn't me" - It doesn't matter. I am with the cap

[@specialk9424]

"WHERE IS SHE?" She went off to ruin Willow, now that she ruined this, John.

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

It's not her fault Willow wasn't that good

[@jeremiahscott2032]

Willow??

[@specialk9424]

@@jeremiahscott2032 Yeah. The terrible show that sucked so bad, Disney+ dropped like a hot rock, so they could take the tax write off. That's why you can't find it anywhere.

[@Goldarlives]

The writers ruined this show. The actors just played their parts.

[@invincible946]

If someone killed Steve then Tony and Sam would go to the end of the world to kill that guy, can't blame him

[@RanveerSinghKahlon]

But it was not the mistake of that person😢 in Civil War, Tony's parents were killed by Bucky and he revenges to kill Bucky not Steve but John killed that innocent person😢 it was very bad scene in this movie and he ruined the name of Captain America😡

[@Warpsmith-Perfide]

​@@RanveerSinghKahlonHe was a terrorist, not an innocent

[@RanveerSinghKahlon]

@@Warpsmith-Perfide But he couldn't control his anger. If he take it calmly and asked that terrorist about that women. Then this doesn't happened. His image for Captain America will also be better

[@Warpsmith-Perfide]

@@RanveerSinghKahlon And how did you expect him to control his anger at a time like that? His best friend had just been murdered by terrorists, whose search has cost him a great deal of humiliation on a personal level and on what Captain America represents. John's frustration exploded at that moment. As if the Avengers hadn't caused much greater collateral damage than simply murdering a terrorist. Tony Stark literally did that in the first movie. People who criticize John always forget that behind that shield there is a man, a human being.

[@LakeLee-r1g]

Stark has caused millions in damage, backstabbed his own friends, gotten cap killed and murdered 8 reserve avengers, and even more. Truth is Stark shouldn't be let off for half of the stuff he does and that doesnt justify anyone elses actions. People do get frusterated because of work, and they do take it out on people by harming someone beyond the scope of lawenforcement and justice. I havent seen the scene except in clips but it sounds like his friend got killed by someone that didnt know their own strength and didnt expect to one shot the guy. There's a lot of this that makes me think they are trying to show the stress of a man trying to step into a legends shoes and how he isnt capable of doing so. He cant handle the stress, he isnt getting much support from bucky and falcon (which is understanadble, but they could have done more for him imo), and he's trying to be someone who he isn't. It's like a cop that cant handle the job so he shoots a guy just because of his race or blows away the driver of a robbery that didnt actually point a weapon at anyone after the gunman gets away, just to vent. It's wrong, hands down. You guys are confusing empathizing and understanding the guys plight with excusing him being out of control and not fit to carry that sheild.@@Warpsmith-Perfide

[@rafeelios]

just shows how well Steve and Buck controlled their strength. They both could easily kill with a punch but always puts out just the right amount of force. Displays the difference in experience. very well done

[@Homelandersolotheversecrykids]

Bro this gives me soldier boy vibes 😂😂😂

[@BigUce777]

They killed his best friend, his brother basically. No one in their right mind would side with the Flag Smashers. They stopped being victims when they became terrorists and began killing innocent people. One of whom was Lemar. Should he have arrested him and taken him to glean information/stand trial? Yes but in the heat of the moment he was hurting as would we all be. Reprimand Walker, place him on leave, grief counseling and other disciplinary steps would have been appropriate. But instead they court-martial him, strip him of his rank and benefits for killing a terrorist. Even if “it wasn’t him!” he is still responsible by association. If he had killed him in combat no one would have batted an eye but he did it like this and that’s what screwed him over. Zemo was right.

[@Nomad-1993]

Without the music, it's like a scene out of a thriller movie.

[@jonathancox4585]

0:40 John’s speaking for all of us 😂

[@oswaldoayala9167]

Ooh papí, I don't think Stevie will appreciate him for killing the guy with the Captain America shield

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

The show failed because of hypocrisy.

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

What hypocrisy

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 Trying tell us that we shouldn't call terrorists who committed acts of terrorism terrorists, having Sam give up the shield to the government after telling Steve he'd do his best and then getting pissy that they then gave the shield to someone else because he wouldn't take up the job.

[@lorem_ipsum2]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 not that hard to tell. They did john dirty and made Sam sympathized with the terrorist which is stupid as hell

[@BeefbossZilla2011]

I used to call this guy craptain america because of how he failed at the role but looking back, He had lost a close friend and that action was something that anyone would do.

[@patriot459]

Gotta love how Walkers fightstyle with the shield is he’s just a blunt object. Vs when cap and Sam use the shield they actually use it to help them in combat with the throws and put spins and kicks in to show they’re more complete fighters. Cap having honed his fighting techniques from back in the day with more modern martial arts and Sam having learned from cap himself.

[@Jackk1911]

This is the captain america that DC deserved to be successful

[@OmarFaruk-bn9bi]

😂

[@RandomizationShow]

The synth music ruined this 😂

[@fenvendead1391]

I remember when I was watching this in the living room and my Dad came in when he killed the guy and asked “is that Captain America?” and I told him “No, that’s Captain U.S.”

[@ibrohiem]

US Agent to be exact

[@User-ChairBoom4729]

Everyone: *Arguing about if John Walker killing the Flagsmasher was right or not* Me: I just like seeing angry superheroes 😛

[@jackreynolds2144]

Who doesn’t!

[@HYPER1STIC]

Cool I love your work 😀

[@sangamsarkar5162]

Make one separate movie on John Walker, he is such a great actor. You can feel his every emotion.

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

I will still say that the shot of John standing there with the bloodied shield will be one of the most iconic images of the MCU......the should should NEVER be used to take a life.

[@abeginnerspov5968]

1:07 Dude, that punch sent her flying

[@rpizzaspaghetti2718]

John Walker is Captain America. we need

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@@rpizzaspaghetti2718 not really. Steve and Sam are better

[@AbhishekSingh-ip3xe]

I'm amazed reading people's comments here! Maybe it shows just how terrible the writing was but is the difference between Steve Rogers and John Walker not stark enough for people here! There's a line that there hasn't been another Steve Rogers and that is so true.

[@cesaralejandro7725]

Lamar did not deserve to die the way he did I feel like his character could’ve done more

[@lucashan9176]

2:17- WALKER NO!!!!!!

[@superman6812]

Walker - yes 😈

[@Ale-dd3ek]

I don't get I'm I supposed to feel bad? They killed his bestfriend and they were bombing civilian places Iron man burnt people alive...

[@HaramDestroyer]

This is exactly like No way home, except if the movie tried to paint Tom Holland spidey as the villain. Both of them attempted to kill the real villain for killing their loved one, except instead of trying to stop John they just called him a villain and called it a day

[@MikeEdwards-j9g]

My man john walker was the only good character in the show. They tried to make him out to be thw bad guy only cuz that was thw desired outcome.

[@Triggered-z8s]

The super soldier serum amplifies emotion, and walker is a normal human already angry about Lamar's death

[@wajihurrahman6905]

This was the exact moment where John Walker became John wick

[@Homelandersolotheversecrykids]

Or soldier boy

[@veganboi4847]

i remember watching this scene for the first time and being totally shocked. absolutley terrifying

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

Same

[@tdjkhazard4522]

Seeing blood on the shield really just….wasn’t right. I have no doubts they framed it that way intentionally

[@JetStream_Mann]

@@tdjkhazard4522 they tried to make him look evil, he did nothing wrong, it’s not like cap doesn’t kill people all the time

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@@JetStream_Mann but never like this. Steve never massacred anyone in public, especially someone who looked like an ordinary citizen

[@JetStream_Mann]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 I don’t think that matters? Like at all

[@gorillone86]

So he executed an international terrorist wanted for murder, what's the problem here?

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

The people that were there didn't know he was a terrorist so as Far they could tell he just murdered with cold blood innocent man.

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 So Sam and Bucky ganged up on him and stripped him of the shield all because of bad PR?

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@topknot01 no because he didn't deserved it.

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 You just said "The people that were there didn't know he was a terrorist so as Far they could tell he just murdered " Sam and Bucky saw the side they didn't.

[@jackbat7637]

@@topknot01 and Sam does?

[@Jabbar-Jan6arb3k]

Nice job

[@Everyonesfavouriteangel]

John was a gigachad

[@Kate-ct3nc]

"Where is she?" John asked calmly

[@sugareecereviews]

Why would you add your outro music before the scene is over

[@TopMovieScenes]

Because it's almost over

[@Danil-nt7xk]

Solder boy: finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I think John Walker is going to be the most interesting member of the Thunderbolts for this reason alone. Ironically, he'll be the most "human" member of the team since he's never had his mind messed with like Bucky, Yelena and Antonia in the past or has an impending "illness" like Ava Starr, but John Walker basically applied the guilty by association mentality here. So, I'm wondering in the Thunderbolts if John Walker is going to be quick to action against everyone who's ever known the Sentry in the film.

[@manuelgrothe608]

2:12 Soldier Boy from The Boys

[@liamwarren3487]

I am Vengeance! I am the Night! I am- Captain America?

[@MrEduardoMF]

This happened in the comics too. Walker has always been a ticking time bomb. It’s a big part of why he’s not worthy to be Captain America

[@splat-boy5414]

What he do wrong here?

[@MrEduardoMF]

@@splat-boy5414 Walker brutally beat and killed a guy who was not fighting back. he killed a guy in an extremely violent manner in front of witnesses who posted on social media Even if he didn’t do anything wrong in a criminal sense, his actions damaged the reputation the identity of Captain America is supposed to have

[@LambSauceWill]

Why are we acting like Steve rogers didn’t kill prior to this? Pretty sure cap killed dudes in winter soldier

[@Ale-dd3ek]

Yup he did

[@evanmeirweber]

the fights in this show were amazing

[@outoffit4real]

for a second there I heard the edm track and went "this couldn't have been playing during this scene". but ofc it's the outro lol

[@grondunn9707]

I guarantee half the men Cap have sent flying either don't walk again or don't get to see their families again. But since Walker manages to get legitimate blood on his hands he's a bad guy. Ultron would've loved being around for Walker.

[@k.p.k-]

I like how falcon cared about karlee and not lemar

[@dimazfantasy5252]

His honestly a fucking dumbass of how he thinks Karli is a innocent little girl when literally she is a super soldier terrorist who kills people, blowing up buildings, and tries to make the country into 1 world. He even tries to be Naruto Uzumaki from the Hidden Leaf who uses talk-no-jutsu towards Karli thinking she and her Flagsmashers gang could be redeemed. In the end Walker and Zemo was right she is a threat

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Well Sam is a dumbass that's what it is

[@mystr0696]

Say what you will about the writing and whatnot, that bloodied shield shot is straight out of the comics in the best way possible

[@Looooooooos]

Alan Walker song fade in after John Walker killed that man had me

[@mateor2d210]

This man has RATM and faith no more in his heart 🔥🔥

[@APNaik]

1:01 hands down, bucky has some of the best hand to hand fighting scenes in marvel

[@Ryclops1057]

MCU writing has drained down to sludge, but this was one thing that confused me: when viewers say "John Walker did nothing wrong." He didn't chase after the woman responsible; he jumped out a window and ran down the first lackey he spotted. He yells, "WHERE IS SHE?" as if his motivation is still the mission OR personal revenge against the one responsible. He disables Nico, then immediately executes him in a fit of rage, even though he's down and out of the fight. This may not strictly be villain territory, but this is far from heroic behavior. Nico's not directly responsible for the death Walker is emotional over, he's effectively neutralized, yet Walker gives into his bloodlust with zero awareness. Nico could have been the key to tracking Flag Smasher, but Walker is more obsessed with getting revenge than he is bringing the actual murderer to justice. Writing wise, this makes no sense. This should only (maybe) have happened if Walker was on top of Flag Smasher. Of course, the writers wanted to vilify John without giving up the finale bait. At the very least, I think the writers were trying to mirror Cap's train scene: Cap brought Zolan in after Bucky's "death", while John executed Nico after Lamar's death. Morality wise, John's not a villain, but he's unworthy of Cap's legacy. He's an anti-hero at best. I support him trying to make a comeback, moving on, and becoming a better person for his mistakes. Just keep in mind that he is that guy who, when pushed past his limit, succumbed to mindless revenge. That's never what a soldier should be.

[@jackreynolds2144]

You are right when you say it wasn’t heroic behavior. However the criticism John received after he does it just isn’t fair when it is exactly what anyone else would have done in his situation. I honestly believe that Sam and Bucky would have done the same thing for Steve.

[@Ale-dd3ek]

Nah man The only mistake he made was killing him instantly instead of trying to get more information

[@RealHajimeHinata]

Nico might not have dealt the killing blow, but he sure as sht had a hand in Lamar’s death by restraining John to keep him from interfering. Had he not aligned himself with a bunch of terrorists, he’d still be alive.

[@Voztex808]

I still don't understand how can people think that Steve is a better Captain America than John Walker because Steve spared Tony when John killed the Flag Smasher guy. If Tony killed Bucky successfully then I'm sure that Steve would've done the same thing

[@gau3131]

that comparison is shit cuz tony and captain america are friends whereas lamar was killed by johns enemies. its not the same. also if you saw the first captain america movie he says that he wouldnt rest till all of hydra is killed because he thought bucky was killed by hydra

[@holyflame2]

Steve would never kill Tony even if Tony succeeded in killing Bucky. You clearly don't know sh** about Steve Rogers.

[@ibrohiem]

Because Steve wasn't crazy like John Walker, it's obvious he's suffering from PTSD.

[@john50beach18]

Steve Rogers doesn't get angry. That's the reason they chose him in the first place. A kind skinny little guy with a heart of gold. He'd just get disappointed

[@rattlynanimations7694]

@@john50beach18 you seem to forget about the first avengers movie, Steve does lose his temper, he's like any human.

[@abeginnerspov5968]

Had Walker found Karli at this moment, the series would have ended right there!

[@Hung_Nguyen_90]

I kind of want to see what Steve Roggers would do If Ironman killed Bucky in Captain America: Civil war.

[@snbruno]

Que satisfação, aspira! Olho por olho, dente por dente!

[@鄧焯文]

Green goblin: he was there because of you, i may have struck the blow but you , you are the one that killed him so why are you killing ? John walker: i want to and i like this

[@EngenhariadeRenome]

How is it that the shield sometimes cuts and sometimes only impacts, does it have a blade or not after all?

[@Mr379789]

Action is awesome

[@Techno_Bunny433]

"Captain america wouldn't kill people" Idk dawg he throws that unbreakable frizby at hydra goons a lot and i haven't seen many after shots of them moving 💀

[@bobafett5697]

*Man gets beheaded by us agent while crown watches* Sick ass outro music:

[@atleticoderojo]

And thats how john walker became homelander for a minute 😅

[@12amTacoBell]

Bro wtf was the music at the end??

[@mobninja_]

People defending Walker. He can be a Veteran or a Soldier or Walker but he can never be Captain America. Captain America is not just a soldier with superhuman abilities, he’s the saviour of the people not some guy who kills people for the government.

[@splat-boy5414]

@@mobninja_ so how dose that affect defending him?

[@mobninja_]

@@splat-boy5414 Dose? I don’t understand what you are telling me

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@mobninja_ bruhhh you didn't watch any Captain America's movie at all, Steve Rogers literally kills alot of Hydra soldiers during WWII and the present time even kill some of the soldiers who were surrendered. What John did wasn't different as Steve (eventhough he killed a super soldier terrorist with a pure anger) but he didn't take the blood of the innocent. Plus both Steve Roger and John Walker were both soldiers who were trained to kill enemies in combat. This show is just bad and dumb writing

[@omarrojo9484]

Friendly reminder that Steve Rogers mercilessly killed brainwashed soldiers in Avengers 1.

[@mobninja_]

@@dimazfantasy5252 The nazis you mean? Let me get this straight to you, mate. Even tho you call Steve a murderer for killing those nazis but did you see him burst out on any of them when Bucky fell out of the train? I don’t think so. But, this on the other end killed the wrong person out of rage. A Wrong person. John is not much different from Red Skull.

[@lil1010devil]

John: watched his friend die kills the terrorist reasonable thing Sam: saying they ain't terrorists is dum Bucky i don't really know i guess his arm fell off he was decent

[@foundationonegaming8154]

And that's why he can't be captain America. He disrespected the shield and what it stood for.

[@J.A.D.A.4709]

Neutral: Why haven’t that fundraiser started when I was a kid? I could’ve been safe from my parent neglect to belt beat for getting bad grades a long time ago!😡

[@sarifuzzamansifat4560]

I like him as captain America. ❤

[@Anchor-Supreme]

Why is the show trying to make me feel sympathy for literal terrorists? Walker is probably the only character in this show that is somewhat relatable.

[@yoelcriss8285]

It looks like The Boys xD

[@Nomadx83]

John did nothing wrong.

[@Schlex]

So instead of following Karli, Sam and Bucky followed him. Even though they ran out of the room already to go chase her…. righhtttttt

[@Your_Average_Guitarist]

It's like they didn't expect someone to die with all these shit, they literally used knives and have super soldier serum in them but tf they were doing? fighting for fun? everyone stoped when lamar died 😂

[@LuisF99]

Poor Walker, now he is going to face Sentry in Thunderbolts with a Weak team xD, only Ghost and Red Hulk could help him

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@LuisF99 eventhough i'm excited for the Thunderbolts movie but i also don't understand why MCU made Sentry be the boss fight of the movie who will fought the Thunderbolts if the team were just street level heroes/anti-heroes, its like a person who tries to fight a black hole. If MCU add other teams like the Abomination, Captain Marvel, or Dr Strange it would've been way better.

[@old-men2803]

Hero kills bad guy

[@vegalatt9774]

I mean, that's how you should respond to criminals, right? What's the reason to spare them.