John Walker Kills a Flag-Smasher with The Shield Scene [No BGM] | The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

John Walker, newly empowered after sneakily taking the last of the Super Soldier Serum, flying into a rage after Karli accidentally kills his partner Lemar Hoskins, aka Battlestar, with a single super-powered punch to the chest.
Karli manages to slip into the crowd, but Walker runs down her fellow Flag-Smasher, Nico, on the street and publicly kills him with Cap's shield. As you'd expect, most of the crowd record this dark moment, and the image of the bloodied shield is broadcast to the world.
The image of Walker slamming his shield into a fallen enemy goes back to Captain America: Civil War, in which Steve Rogers does the same to Iron Man to disable his armor. The difference is that Steve stopped when his opponent was beaten, while Walker gave in to his bloodlust.
What do you think of the fight? Did you find any interesting facts in the scene? Do you have any suggestions or ideas? Share your opinion with the world in the comment section below. I put the video in 4K, extracted the background music score, and removed the irrelevant parts of the scene to help you focus thoroughly on CGI, SFX, and the acting.
0:00 | The Falcon, the Winter Soldier, and John Walker vs. The Flag-Smashers
1:14 | Karli Morgenthau Kills Lemar Hoskins [Death of Battlestar]
1:52 | John Walker Kills Nico with Cap's Shield
3:01 | More Scenes
[Outro Music]
Title: Dreamer
Artist: Alan Walker
• Alan Walker - Dreamer ...
[The Original Show]
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier | Season 1 | Episode 4 | The Whole World Is Watching
Aired: April 9, 2021
Director: Kari Skogland
Writer: Malcolm Spellman
Stars: Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Wyatt Russell
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[@un6250]

Still don’t get how we were supposed to sympathise with Karlee and the flag smashers. They were annoying and insufferable

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Agreed but what's more annoying is that the writers tries to make John as the bad guy/asshole instead. Even Sam tries to sympathetic towards Karli and her gang who is a terrorist but yet hates Walker only just because he is Captain America which is dumb and completely so stupid

[@dogswifty7800]

@@dimazfantasy5252 why Sam hated John becoming Captain America doesn't make sense since it was him who turned down the shield bestowed on him by Steve but I understand why Bucky would hate Sam and John because of rejecting Steve's legacy

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@dogswifty7800 Bucky hate John because he was a Captain America and the shield was given to him by the government when it was should've been for Sam instead.

[@marcosrenann9288]

Bcz Sam live both worlds and he knows Karli its just a kid who does not fully understand what shes doing. Basically she is what Sam could be if he takes the other side...

[@BRONZALiVE]

Those were the worst part of the show, the other stuff with Isiah Bradley was actually far better handled even if it was very preachy, compared to the flag smashers nonsense that was miles better

[@iwantabigpiece]

Karli: *Punches man full force into concrete* Also Karli: 😮

[@DVDTAPEAFKs]

she was devastated and shocked too how brutal her friend got murdered but she's responsible for his death and John had every right to be outrageous and kill that guy remember the phrase Eye for an Eye life for a life

[@dalma4086]

😂😂😂😂

[@wiseguychampia6647]

And it's not like she had the intent to kill someone

[@joscar062]

"This is the only language these people will understand" Walker: karli can you understand "flagsmasher"? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

Pffft... And that's why they nearly had to bring in the military to stop the Hatfields and Mccoy's feud. There's a time when chosing to take no action is an action, and you must pick up arms and fight, but too often it's taken too far and justified by bad logic or the wrong reasons all together in deceptive ways. I think that's why sometimes philisophical and religeous figures like Christ gave vague or imprecise answers in regards to these matters, knowing that almost no matter what their reply was it would be twisted to excuse violence so they were cryptic trying to give less of a chance for their words to be abused.@@DVDTAPEAFKs

[@baconsir1159]

“It wasn’t me!” Bro you tried to help kill John like one minute ago. Which is what led to Lemar dying! Dude is so full of shit.

[@goukeban6197]

No more full of shit than the people acting like Walker was the bad guy here.

[@leftoids.are.cringe]

Flagsmashers are the most embarrassing antagonists the MCU has ever come up with. The fact that they tried to make the audience sympathetic towards them is totally laughable.

[@nocallerid360]

Who the fuck is your "bro?"

[@leftoids.are.cringe]

@@nocallerid360 Is this really the first time you’ve seen someone use “bro” in this context? Or were you just in a bad mood and needed to start a nothing-fight?

[@nocallerid360]

@leftoids.are.cringe Nah it just sounded stupid.

[@NoodleBoy26]

Bro your techno at the end killed the scene

[@axelpacheco7470]

New caps murder scene had an outro💀

[@danielgrafton93]

I think this show wanted me to feel sympathy for that ginger lass. But by the end of the series I though she got what was coming to her 🤷‍♂️

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

If anything it made Falcon and Bucky seem like assholes since John did nothing wrong and even saved their ass on multiple occasions even after they told him to screw off. Im fine with him being treated like a joke but being treated like a villain?? Tony has done far worse to non-superpowered terrorists who definitely surrendered.

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

Ehhh.. that doesn't excuse stark.@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897

[@ashishhembrom3905]

​@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897Tony was the only avenger who made up for what harm he did.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Agree they tried to make Karli and her gang of Flagsmashers a sad and sympathetic and i don't understand of how Sam thinking they are not terrorists and tries to make peace with them aka tries to do Naruto talk no jutsu technique to her which is very naive while Walker on the otherhand is smart than Sam he is the one who saw Karli and her Flagsmashers gang as a threat to the world and they needs to be stopped.

[@joshuacrisanto7419]

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 "Tony has done far worse to non-superpowered terrorists who definitely surrendered." can you remind me what exactly he did? im having trouble remembering him killing terrorists who surrendered cuz what i remember is there's one scene in IM3 when he's escaping and fighting the guards when his suit comes piece by piece, there was one guard who didn't shoot at Tony and he said he hated working there and Tony let that guy go.

[@user-SmudgiMoto]

Walker's action was a basic Human reaction. Let me explain, when a loved one (sibling, close friend, etc.) is killed (especially in front of you), rage, hatred, bloodlust, is all you seek. And unless someone is there right next to you to stop you, more often than not, you don't realize the damage/destruction you've caused until the deed is done.

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Also lets be real, Steve has done the same just not infront of civilians, and Tony has done far worse, popping into a room, saying hello, normal non-superpowered terrorists drop their weapons and hands up, tony blows em' up anyway. John Walker did nothing wrong and did alot right too, the only "wrong" thing is maybe not letting the civilian exploder go to a court but even then he could easily have taken a civilian hostage.

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

Yeah, that's the basic fascist and broken explaination people use to explain things like that. And while I can't say what all cap might have done in the comics because of different writers, i can defend him by saying that many writers don't stay true to the characters. Like the one time Superman used his heat vision to somehow enter someones brain and magically locate and erase the part of their brain that gave them super powers. While there's few even decent explainations for all of his powers over various incarnations of superman, it's just not something he wouldnt have done in that situation normally. Read me clearly, if you have lost control, you have lost control. That is bad, period. While you can look at a situation and say, "We can empathize and understand" it does not justify these actions. There's a difference in say, manslaughter and premeditated murder. So in simply leting him off for murder, you'd basically be no better than an accomplice, if this had been real. Hold the coat while others throw the stones, you don't deserve to be let off either. @@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897

[@OK-yy6qz]

There's sympathising/understanding and then there's excusing though. If a normal person "loses control" and kills someone that isn't even fighting back that's murder. If a person of authority does that then it's suddenly not murder?

[@hidan407]

​@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 Yeah I hate how some takes shots at Walker for this, But forget steve fought in a World war, did everyone think he just bonked them in the head and gave them a time out? Captain probably has the highest kill count of the whole avengers

[@LEGOC-3PO]

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 That’s not what happens with Tony at all. He busts in the room, they start shooting at him, then he incapacitates them, he doesn’t kill them. He says “good talk” right after and it cuts to the people writhing in pain in the ground and someone replies “no it wasn’t” Tony didn’t kill them.

[@smackstar1015]

0:59 Ah yes, brilliant idea to engage in knife combat with the fucking Winter Soldier. Room temperature IQ moment.

[@williammcguire130]

Walker was ten times as interesting a character as either of the title characters of the show were.

[@dogswifty7800]

Bucky had a good arc, Sam trying to sympathise with the Flagsmashers was just ridiculous

[@Michael-eg3rs]

@@dogswifty7800 maybe. But it feels like something Steve would've done. Tried to defuse a problem before resorting to fighting. And with Sam being a counselor for soldiers as established in The Winter Solider it feels in character for him to try and reason before fighting

[@mote_kela7127]

@@Michael-eg3rs Steve likes to talk but as soon as hands are thrown he doesn't hesitate to get dirty + it ain't in character at all for falcon. Walker is a vet who went through multiple episodes and yet falcon didn't hesitate to beat his ass and steal the shield off him

[@BRONZALiVE]

@@dogswifty7800yeah, Buckys arc was great, and Walkers was by far the best, he really wasn’t a bad guy, he apologised when Lamar died to his family and tried to dig the right thing and come back, as for Sam his story with Isiah was fine, and him showing that a black man can become Captain America, but the whole “you’ve gotta stop calling them terroristz” and sympathy for them was just so stupid, they tried to make him this morally righteous man but to the extent he just went to was silly, and very uncap like

[@rashadlewis8345]

Walker wasn't interesting at all and Bucky looked washed up im guessing Sebastian didnt workout Sam was the only one that played his role and Bradley of course

[@mathisntmybestsubject8440]

I'm just sorry it wasn't Karli that got smashed by the flag. 😒

[@criticalbil1]

This show was all over the place.

[@joscar062]

Better handled than wandavision andloki

[@Fanboy-V]

@@joscar062 WandaVision I agree with, Loki is awesome though

[@editor7354]

Not even imo but I loved it

[@sponge8406]

John is goated for this scene lmao hes like one of the only good charters in this show

[@trollfack2966]

He's the only good character in the show

[@joscar062]

​@@trollfack2966 Zemo as well

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Yeah agreed he and Zemo was even more interesting and cooler than the two main protagonists on their own show

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@trollfack2966 Sam, Bucky and Zemo were cool too

[@rashadlewis8345]

Walker was trash

[@AnakinDripwalker18]

Cant blame john here, they killed his best friend like he was nothing and he dint deserve that

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

Not to mention superpowered terrorists who target and blow up civilian buildings arent really people who deserve much pity, like nazis. John did nothing wrong.

[@wormer104]

They killed his friend like they were in a fight with three known skilled combatants and did not want to tangle with a potential 4th.

[@juliangonzalez4038]

It was super stupid to have a regular dude who couldn’t hold his own there anyways

[@PhoBos_____]

@@juliangonzalez4038 So who are they suppose to send? And by that logic why is the Falcon there?

[@juliangonzalez4038]

@@PhoBos_____ falcon has fought in the big leagues before. He knows what he was going against and has fought a blood thirsty winter soldier twice.

[@leftoids.are.cringe]

Walker did nothing wrong. He was the fallen hero of this story.

[@82fire28]

The problem with him killing the guy is not really the kill but location he did it in, foreign land surrounded by witnesses recording it. Captain America uniform and shield is meant as an American good guy symbol it does not matter who he was fighting for the most part the kill looks bad for the country image that Captain America symbolizes be it a truth or not.

[@assaultgaming6614]

@@82fire28 not to mention the timing of everything all people saw was John kill the guy but nobody knew the reason why although that probably don’t matter but it’s always nice to know the context

[@82fire28]

@@assaultgaming6614 Yup, people just see it as brutal killing, we got a front row seat and may feel for him but in world that's a bad image.

[@rashadlewis8345]

Nope

[@leftoids.are.cringe]

@@rashadlewis8345 ya

[@cesaralejandro7725]

I honestly feel sorry for Lamar he didn’t deserve to die

[@workingman9019]

Right! That was his bro! You have to get revenge on someone who kills your bro!

[@specialk9424]

"WHERE IS SHE?" She went off to ruin Willow, now that she ruined this, John.

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

It's not her fault Willow wasn't that good

[@saharasafari9]

Want a John walker series 😂😂

[@FerretJohn]

He'll be leading the Thunderbolts in their big screen movie, July 2024

[@saharasafari9]

@@FerretJohn you sure about him leading? I think that might be yelana

[@joscar062]

​@@saharasafari9 People be saying it's bucky

[@66ordolupsjediklon14]

@@joscar062 Kevin Feige himself said Bucky will be a leader of Thunderbolts..

[@workingman9019]

He should be leading! He has the most military experience like cap!

[@cald1421]

This really gave me the Boys vibes and I was here for it

[@BRONZALiVE]

When super soldiers like Walker and Steve wield the shield the fight scenes are way more intense and fast, compared to Sam’s ending fights when he becomes cap, since he doesn’t have the serum what he does with the shield is limited, which sucks

[@workingman9019]

Sam sucks as cap! No one is going to watch captain falcon 4.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

@@workingman9019 dude how Sam sucks ? We literally just only see him as Cap in episode 6 of FATWS. Honestly gave the man a chance to be the next Captain America to continue on Steve's legacy, i honestly excited to see Sam's Captain America

[@workingman9019]

@@dimazfantasy5252 You gotta do better! That speech was so stupid. He didn't say anything that could help anyone! Also he sympathized with Karli the terrorist.

[@rashadlewis8345]

😂😂😂😂 Walker looks goofy asf with that shield now same flying with the shield...Amazing Bradley and Sam carried the show

[@invincible946]

If someone killed Steve then Tony and Sam would go to the end of the world to kill that guy, can't blame him

[@RanveerSinghKahlon]

But it was not the mistake of that person😢 in Civil War, Tony's parents were killed by Bucky and he revenges to kill Bucky not Steve but John killed that innocent person😢 it was very bad scene in this movie and he ruined the name of Captain America😡

[@Warpsmith-Perfide]

​@@RanveerSinghKahlonHe was a terrorist, not an innocent

[@RanveerSinghKahlon]

@@Warpsmith-Perfide But he couldn't control his anger. If he take it calmly and asked that terrorist about that women. Then this doesn't happened. His image for Captain America will also be better

[@Warpsmith-Perfide]

@@RanveerSinghKahlon And how did you expect him to control his anger at a time like that? His best friend had just been murdered by terrorists, whose search has cost him a great deal of humiliation on a personal level and on what Captain America represents. John's frustration exploded at that moment. As if the Avengers hadn't caused much greater collateral damage than simply murdering a terrorist. Tony Stark literally did that in the first movie. People who criticize John always forget that behind that shield there is a man, a human being.

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

Stark has caused millions in damage, backstabbed his own friends, gotten cap killed and murdered 8 reserve avengers, and even more. Truth is Stark shouldn't be let off for half of the stuff he does and that doesnt justify anyone elses actions. People do get frusterated because of work, and they do take it out on people by harming someone beyond the scope of lawenforcement and justice. I havent seen the scene except in clips but it sounds like his friend got killed by someone that didnt know their own strength and didnt expect to one shot the guy. There's a lot of this that makes me think they are trying to show the stress of a man trying to step into a legends shoes and how he isnt capable of doing so. He cant handle the stress, he isnt getting much support from bucky and falcon (which is understanadble, but they could have done more for him imo), and he's trying to be someone who he isn't. It's like a cop that cant handle the job so he shoots a guy just because of his race or blows away the driver of a robbery that didnt actually point a weapon at anyone after the gunman gets away, just to vent. It's wrong, hands down. You guys are confusing empathizing and understanding the guys plight with excusing him being out of control and not fit to carry that sheild.@@Warpsmith-Perfide

[@patrickspencer6550]

Flag Smasher - Jameson after No Way Home Walker - Me

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

The show failed because of hypocrisy.

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

What hypocrisy

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 Trying tell us that we shouldn't call terrorists who committed acts of terrorism terrorists, having Sam give up the shield to the government after telling Steve he'd do his best and then getting pissy that they then gave the shield to someone else because he wouldn't take up the job.

[@Jwingmann]

That ginger assassin girl was the WORST part of the show

[@Jackk1911]

This is the captain america that DC deserved to be successful

[@OmarFaruk-bn9bi]

😂

[@huntercool2232]

John Walker’s back must really hurt from carrying the entire show

[@HYPER1STIC]

Cool I love your work 😀

[@fenvendead1391]

I remember when I was watching this in the living room and my Dad came in when he killed the guy and asked “is that Captain America?” and I told him “No, that’s Captain U.S.”

[@ibrohiem]

US Agent to be exact

[@Nomad-1993]

Without the music, it's like a scene out of a thriller movie.

[@Blast2224]

What made me hate Karli so much was her constant contradiction of her motives and actions. She "doesn't want to be a villain" yet the moment she meets Bucky, she *smiles* at the thought of getting to fight him. She acts like she's this ultra powerful all knowing leader...but that's only if she has lackies holding down men for her. If you corner her, use firearms on her, or take away her plan, she suddenly tries to pull the, "I'm just a little girl. I'm scared. I never had a chance..." card. You can't blow up a building full of civilians and be seen as a scared little girl. You can't punch a man and break his neck, *flee afterwards* and be seen as a symbol of unity.

[@Jabbar-Jan6arb3k]

Nice job

[@4Thessia]

Gosh thanks for explaining that.

[@RandomizationShow]

The synth music ruined this 😂

[@veganboi4847]

i remember watching this scene for the first time and being totally shocked. absolutley terrifying

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

Same

[@tdjkhazard4522]

Seeing blood on the shield really just….wasn’t right. I have no doubts they framed it that way intentionally

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

I will still say that the shot of John standing there with the bloodied shield will be one of the most iconic images of the MCU......the should should NEVER be used to take a life.

[@vortozan5395]

The flag smashers should not have be sympathised with at the end of this, they literally murdered and burned people alive in acts of terrorism. Also John Walker just straight up killed a person who was trying to retreat. That person also didn’t kill his friend in the first place (indirectly responsible but not the one that did it). His friend died, it’s understandable that he went into a rage, anyone would but when you’re entire job revolves around being someone with upstanding morals and unquestionably good judgement, losing control of yourself to the point you straight up murder someone whose trying to retreat/surrender is the height of reprehensible.

[@Kate-ct3nc]

gonna to rewatch the show

[@cesaralejandro7725]

Lamar did not deserve to die the way he did I feel like his character could’ve done more

[@J.A.D.A.4709]

Neutral: Why haven’t that fundraiser started when I was a kid? I could’ve been safe from my parent neglect to belt beat for getting bad grades a long time ago!😡

[@k.p.k-]

I like how falcon cared about karlee and not lemar

[@liamwarren3487]

I am Vengeance! I am the Night! I am- Captain America?

[@lucashan9176]

2:17- WALKER NO!!!!!!

[@superman6812]

Walker - yes 😈

[@Mr379789]

Action is awesome

[@sugareecereviews]

Why would you add your outro music before the scene is over

[@TopMovieScenes]

Because it's almost over

[@BigUce777]

They killed his best friend, his brother basically. No one in their right mind would side with the Flag Smashers. They stopped being victims when they became terrorists and began killing innocent people. One of whom was Lemar. Should he have arrested him and taken him to glean information/stand trial? Yes but in the heat of the moment he was hurting as would we all be. Reprimand Walker, place him on leave, grief counseling and other disciplinary steps would have been appropriate. But instead they court-martial him, strip him of his rank and benefits for killing a terrorist. Even if “it wasn’t him!” he is still responsible by association. If he had killed him in combat no one would have batted an eye but he did it like this and that’s what screwed him over. Zemo was right.

[@user-ld8lv5py7k]

Green goblin: he was there because of you, i may have struck the blow but you , you are the one that killed him so why are you killing ? John walker: i want to and i like this

[@cruise_missile8387]

"No people, no problem"

[@Voztex808]

I still don't understand how can people think that Steve is a better Captain America than John Walker because Steve spared Tony when John killed the Flag Smasher guy. If Tony killed Bucky successfully then I'm sure that Steve would've done the same thing

[@gau3131]

that comparison is shit cuz tony and captain america are friends whereas lamar was killed by johns enemies. its not the same. also if you saw the first captain america movie he says that he wouldnt rest till all of hydra is killed because he thought bucky was killed by hydra

[@holyflame2]

Steve would never kill Tony even if Tony succeeded in killing Bucky. You clearly don't know sh** about Steve Rogers.

[@ibrohiem]

Because Steve wasn't crazy like John Walker, it's obvious he's suffering from PTSD.

[@john50beach18]

Steve Rogers doesn't get angry. That's the reason they chose him in the first place. A kind skinny little guy with a heart of gold. He'd just get disappointed

[@rattlynanimations7694]

@@john50beach18 you seem to forget about the first avengers movie, Steve does lose his temper, he's like any human.

[@Vero-nica12Andrea]

Siento que Walker tiene reacciones mas humanas,uno llega a empatizar con él aunque haya matado a un ser humano

[@GoldenJayljay]

The very first blood of the almost inocent on the shield

[@Your_Average_Guitarist]

It's like they didn't expect someone to die with all these shit, they literally used knives and have super soldier serum in them but tf they were doing? fighting for fun? everyone stoped when lamar died 😂

[@huntercool2232]

Karli is probably one of the most hated and unlikable characters in the MCU… and for good reason. The writers tried so hard to make us sympathize with her, but they did an AWFUL job because she’s just so irredeemable.

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

Ummm.. wait, what?? Comics: Main scientist is assassinated, steve is the only super soldier serum type. Others are given the serum eventually, but without the stabilization treatment they all go batty and turn into murders and psychos. And I think that one guy what was his name, Nuke? The guy who dressed in cammo and took a blue pill to chill and a red one to go into kill mode? he went down hill fastest of all while at least the second captain american and bucky took a while to degenerate. The only exception is the Red Skull, who uses a cloned body identical to Steves but we find out that even with a cloned body, NO ONE can actually match the original captain america who went through the whole entire procedure and has more actual combat experience and training with other hero's like Hercules and Thor who have been fighting for CENTURIES. So this film ... the heck are they doing? Spitting out toy soldier super soldiers? Man, MCU just disappoints me in so many ways.

[@savemarvelnetflix2841]

Did these jerks match to the Captain?

[@12amTacoBell]

Bro wtf was the music at the end??

[@jasonalv7436]

This show woulda been fire if the writing was actually consistent

[@crashscreen8200]

WTF was this song in the end

[@A4Gaming]

Moron uploader thought they were being co

[@sugareecereviews]

Bro put his outro music before the scene was even over for some reason

[@irv___]

So was he stabbing him with the shield or did he actually decapitate him?

[@joscar062]

It looked like he bludgeoned his chest

[@FabulosoSpray]

He gave him an impromptu open heart surgery

[@amulyasharma411]

u will never know how i get this many likes. john maybe be stronger or same as bucky ,maybe.

[@trollfack2966]

Honestly Walker was the only good stage 4 character

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

Moon Knight, Mobius, Shang-Chi, Yelena, Namor, Layla, Agatha, Gorr, Lyla, He Who Remains, Kate

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 Moon knight was Moon knight in name only, they couldn't even get the personalities from the comics right, turning the serious personality into a cockney buffoon. Namor easn't Namor he was Nimmmmooooorgh or Cooco. Yelena is okayish. The rest you mentioned ranged from forgettable to garbage aides from Morbius.

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@topknot01 same can be said about Bucky that he's not like in comics. Also in some counties that's how you pronounce Namor's name. And People remembered He Who Remains, Kate and Gorr.

[@blueraccoon1088]

Blood on the symbol of a hero is a great disgrace to the original bearer "Gidi; The Burden is hardest to bear"

[@user-cv1pj2vv1u]

In the comic version of the civil war there was a lot of that. Characters acting totally out of character, illogically aggressive and violent, an extra dimensional 'gutanamo' where hero's got locked up without a trial, etc etc etc. It was a politically charged story line that ended with cap dead and to add insult to injury he wasnt even burried on american soil which i felt was a huge insult. People even acted like they werent following cap because he was right or they believed in his cause, but just because of his name. Just because he carried the title and the shield. Blind loyalty the concept of 'the great american hero'. But writers like that have been trying to treat cap like a mentally unstable, burnt out soldier who is an old fossil that should be forgotten, even casting him in a light as being undesirable for being 'left wing' i.e. socialist or american democrat, when captain america was never about politics other than promoting america despite all it's flaws and always trying to put it's good side forward. Thus they undermine and soil anything positive about america not linked directly to racism, greed, and abuse of class and wealth. Thus blindly shooting their own nation in the back while character assassinating cap.

[@HipsterDoofus]

Steve Rogers killed plenty of people.

[@samalvey8168]

I should point out that his actions were illegal. He is still an active serving member of the US military who illegally entered Latvia (a fellow NATO member) and killed an unarmed man in full view of numerous civilians who was also a Latvian citizen. That makes it, in the eyes of the world, a US soldier who murdered a foreign citizen on said citizen's home soil.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Counter: That ‘unarmed man’ was a super soldier who’s punches were strong enough to break concrete and could easily kill with a single hit. This means he's never unarmed and is still dangerous. Not to mention that the man in question had assisted in the murder of a US citizen on foreign soil and hence was a hostile threat. Not to mention the civilian is a known terrorist who was about to murder John. What does it matter is the fight was in front of a crowd or not? If the writers were honest about this, they’d remember they had also saw this same guy throw a concrete water fountain that would have killed people if John hadn't blocked it. But let's be serious, if they didn't make him go to Latveria without informing his superiors, getting authorization from them, or getting reinforcements to take down the entirety of the Flagsmashers, then the show would have ended there. But the writers, on multiple occasions, make the characters act stupid to tell the story they want to tell.

[@wiseguychampia6647]

No, cause' it's like this, you either go in peacefully or if you resist you have suffer the consequences.

[@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897]

@@Lobsterwithinternet also remember Tony did the same things if not worse, popping into a room, saying hello, normal non-powered terrorists drop their weapons, tony blows em up anyway. I dont see why the same cant be said for tony if we're going to sympythise with people who blow up civilians.

[@CryptidZeker415]

John was an active member of the military that literally was assigned to take out the Flagsmashers given the amount of damage and harm this group has been(heck right before this, they blew up a building with "Defenseless" soldiers they tied down). What do you think happens when a soldier is sent to eliminate a terrorist group?

[@samalvey8168]

@@CryptidZeker415 Yes, but he was in Latvia illegally and without the approval or knowledge of the Latvian government.

[@0N0B_0]

Captain America would NEVER! #NotMyCaptainAmerica

[@dimazfantasy5252]

You definitely didn't watch any Captain America movie, he literally kills terrorist and Hydra everytime

[@topknot01]

Cap literally tosses a dude into spinning blades, out of all the ways he could incapacitate a dude, Cap chose that option.

[@bryanemilius1606]

You know, I feel like the thing people are missing here is that Walker didn’t just kill someone. He executed a man in full view of the public. Having a new Captain America was supposed to make people feel safe. Beating a man to senselessness and caving his skull in with the shield on video will not make people feel safe. It’s not just because he killed someone, it’s because when he lost control, he went way. Too. Far.

[@user-yp6vy1oq5d]

He did not. That dude was a terrorist who has taken a serum that makes him strong enough to throw concrete blocks/trash cans like they made of plastic, strong enough to kill a person with a single blow. He has displayed zero concern for civilian safety, tried to kill Walker and aided in killing Lamar. Walker knocked him down three times, and two times dude tried to stand back up and fight, instead of surrendering. Even when lying down he still didn't even try to surrender, instead he was stalling with whining about how "It wasn't me". If Walker hesitated, there was a high risk of this guy jumping up and taking civilians hostage. He was, for all intents and purposes, extremely dangerous and armed, and Walker (a soldier, not a policeman, by the way) had no way nor obligation to apprehend him. Killing him was the most logical choice, and since Walker had nothing on hand but the shield, he used that. Was it messy? Yes. But killing people is always messy.

[@michaelbarquet4169]

@@user-yp6vy1oq5d I agree. Walkers a soldier while this guy is not only a terrorist but a super enhanced one. Very dangerous. Being court martial or acting like he was a monster was such a joke. But that’s marvel for you

[@nocallerid360]

​@@user-yp6vy1oq5dNah, he went way too far.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Dude are you blind that dude was a super soldier terrorist who kills civilians, blew up buildings, and tries to terrorize the world he deserved it. John Walker is a soldier who was sent by the government to stopped The Flagsmashers once and for all besides that man deserves it, he was holding up John so that Karli could kill John until Karli kills Lemar

[@thiagohdasilva]

"no music"

[@PudimGamer664]

"Sem música"

[@rorschach6295]

Look like soldier boy killing mindstorm

[@PeaceIslandStudio]

That's montage using~

[@Gyropilot99087]

his back must hurt from single-handedly carrying this show (still trash tho)

[@jr1212-es9bp]

Fr

[@babyjesuslovesme1219]

I know it wasn’t in the script but it’s sad that everyone decided to whip out their cell phones instead of maybe trying to calm him down at a safe distance of course.

[@Mattrattmattratt]

Nah he did what he had to do fr

[@mox9076]

Sam held his own.

[@khuzaitkhansguard6334]

id prolly do the same John got so much hate for literally nı reason

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Yeah agreed he is the most interesting and relatable character. He is my favorite character in the MCU, the writers tries to make John to be hated but yet tries to make Karli and her gang of Flagsmashers a super soldier terrorist a sympathetic gang which is completely dumb writing and so stupid

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

Yeah, people started hating him the moment he appeared

[@z.ngaming2681]

Can do some transformers ones pls

[@ar1sm70]

You know your writing is shit, when you try to make the terrorists sympathetic and the guy who stands up to them a villain...

[@gorillone86]

So he executed an international terrorist wanted for murder, what's the problem here?

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

The people that were there didn't know he was a terrorist so as Far they could tell he just murdered with cold blood innocent man.

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 So Sam and Bucky ganged up on him and stripped him of the shield all because of bad PR?

[@ksaweryjanowski827]

@topknot01 no because he didn't deserved it.

[@topknot01]

@@ksaweryjanowski827 You just said "The people that were there didn't know he was a terrorist so as Far they could tell he just murdered " Sam and Bucky saw the side they didn't.

[@ncu489]

Here the point is not he did right or wrong here point is Steve Rogers Captain America never did this

[@nggyunglyd2374]

I don’t think the people who are defending John Walker understand what this scene is supposed to represent. Steve didn’t just brutally kill just because he could or even out of revenge. He only did it when necessary. This was unnecessary. John didn’t need to do any of what he did to that flag smasher, regardless of motive or reason. Clear examples of this are in Winter Soldier or even Civil War. Cap had the chance to do this exact move on Bucky and Tony, with Bucky even being the enemy and having hurt/killed thousands of people for Hydra. Even in his debut film he never butchered anyone just because he could. He always tried giving the enemy a chance and never wanted to hurt anyone. John has problems that were made even more noticeable by the serum (as that’s something unchangeable by it). I mean he wouldn’t even come off his arrogance to get help from Sam and Bucky, two actual disciples (in a sense) of Steve Rogers and the two with the most knowledge on the shield and what it represents. Instead he was ignorant and acted like a fool, giving it a horrible look and shaming the mantle Steve helped build from the ground up. I’m sure there’s not gonna be many that read all that, and I apologize for its length, but some of these fans need to recognize the difference between a cal who can kill because he can and one who kills when it’s needed. That’s what defines Captain America; morals

[@LukeSky2207]

Exactly

[@FreerunningGamer]

Thanks for the information. I had no idea who John was until seeing this video in my recommended.

[@mox9076]

John was a very compelling character. The entire episode was designed to show his decline before the eventual redemption. Also, the moral grey ereas. Much like every Captain America (Isaiah and Steve) before him, the government saw them as props only to throw them under the bus. John was a good soldier that wanted to do his best. Suffering from PTSD, constantly being rejected and disrespected by others. As he did his best to adhere to the mandates set by his government. A good soldier. Karli was a terrorist that killed people. She then killed his best friend. His only moral tether. That set him over the top and he reacted in anger.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Sounds like you're doing the writing for the writers.

[@kadencastro8168]

This comment should have more likes

[@thecavechild7207]

Your stupid outro music kinda ruined the ending which was the main part 😒

[@diego11123]

[Sin música] pone música

[@user-hi8qw1xg9o]

I'm on Walker's side

[@woahwoah2207]

John did nothing wrong!

[@NiktoBek]

Homelander approves

[@katewinston6333]

Theres so many camera cuts and angle changes, one cant even understand who hit who, or whats going on. These fights are so trash... Its impossible to follow whats going on. It really does seem like after Avengers ended, Marvel Studios went downhill in every way. Even in cgi.. *cough* Dr. Strange's third eye scene

[@ykarinadiaz]

Nadie te pregunto

[@jpcelispapucell]

A ti

[@Alertchase]

The good thing about this show was John.He was not cracking jokes like nick furry and antman every 2 min of this show.He did his job and goverment screwed him and bucky and sam treated him like shit.

[@vvatchout1]

the only cool scene. everything else trash af

[@Brandon-ob8ul]

Who is the goofy imposter guy in the Captain America out fit.

[@dimazfantasy5252]

He is John Walker aka U.S Agent in the comics he was chosen to become Captain America by the government

[@BrooklynManHere]

He disrespected the shield ☠️

[@kidwaryodproduction]

This scene actually happened before in Ultimates #12 (2002) comic. Captain America (Who was more violent in 1610/Ultimate universe) use shield to bash Herr Kleiser in the same style.

[@PirataEspacial567]

John Walker should have changed its name to capital justice

[@vishd33]

John Walker doesn't deserve that shield

[@dimazfantasy5252]

Why ? Its not like he choose to be Captain America. The governmemt chooses him to be Captain America besides i like him as Captain America than Steve. He is the most human relatable and interesting character in the MCU

[@lessermook7608]

Mf just helped to execute him. And Battlestar died. Only issue, don't do it infront of civies. This show was so dishonest and Manipulative, just like Across the SpiderGimmick It manipulates narratives to get the audience to think what they want you to think. It should've been Karli

[@Reaper-lh4yq]

Why do some people say this is normal? Not even in real life, a soldier with mental illness and no emotional control isn't fit to be a soldier anymore; there is a reason for that. Let alone in superhero fiction. Captain America's portrayal shouldn't be consumed by rage and anger. Yes, it is a normal civilian reaction, but not for a military-minded person; that's why there's a psychological test before becoming a soldier.

[@baconsir1159]

Sam has been a ball of emotion this entire time, like a damn child. He refuses to help, acts like a huge douche, lets innocents die, then acts holier than thou as though he hasn’t contributed to this more than anyone. Not to mention the guy who died was by no means innocent or harmless, being both a superhuman terrorist and an active military combatant. Killing him was 100% correct, it’s just that they frame it as an unforgivable sin. Tony literally kills like 20 much less dangerous people without blinking an eye in Iron Man and nobody cares.

[@Reaper-lh4yq]

@@baconsir1159 You seem to have misunderstood my comment. My point isn't about the morality of killing, but Walker's actions scream a lack of emotional control. That's not the norm for a soldier or hero. The military values discipline over acting on rage. It's about the mindset, not just the act.

[@goukeban6197]

@@baconsir1159 "But muh blood on da shield, man!"

[@annelisekubecka5829]

2:57 How do people defend this man? Look at the shield!

[@justadummy8076]

Because we can think beyond imagery & propaganda

[@annelisekubecka5829]

@@justadummy8076 the symbol of peace is covered in the blood of an innocent man

[@sunwukong1443]

That guy was not innocent he's was a terrorist responsible of killing a lot of innocent people

[@natperXD]

@@annelisekubecka5829to be fair, that symbol was used to recruit soldiers for WW2 before and has killed people before.

[@annelisekubecka5829]

@@natperXD I'm sorry part of the reason why I hate this scene so mush is just that blood has made me squeamish since I was ten years old and sometimes fake blood in the media is enough to trigger it and this is just one of those times

[@jonmunoz2772]

neither bucky nor steve rodgers would have ever killed him even when a villain deserved it, I really don't like John Walker at all and it has nothing to do with "no one can replace steve" crowd it is this clown's morals that I can't stand, he is arrogant, prideful and out for blood which steve rodgers never sought revenge.

[@baconsir1159]

Mfs forget Steve is a WWII vet, he’s not fucking batman. He’s killed plenty of soldiers, even people that were not an immediate threat.

[@jonmunoz2772]

@@baconsir1159 there is a different between self defense and murder and John walker didn't care to tell the difference.

[@wynzavian2000]

@@baconsir1159Yes, and No being a solider you follow orders. Steve followed orders when he was solider. You uphold the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic . What part is bashing a man head in when he is on the ground . (Unarmed at this point, following orders)This man should have been taken into custody. Especially, in a country we have no jurisdiction for. Steve: Yes, he used a gun in a war zones. In war zones, we have different rules. This man however was executed in heavily civilian populated country. Steve wouldn’t do this. You can used weapons on combatants in a war zone. (WW2) We even have rules even for POW’s. This man should have been taken into custody. Period.

[@baconsir1159]

@@wynzavian2000 This man can barely be considered unarmed, he’s a super soldier capable of killing with his bare hands. Hell that’s literally how Lemar just died. As John’s orders are to neutralize them all to the greatest extent possible and he’s of the highest rank there, he has full authority to execute them. Hell Sam and Bucky also just killed mfs, with their only defense being that they did so too fast for them to beg for their lives. Entire scene (and honestly the show) is tremendously dumb.

[@baconsir1159]

@@jonmunoz2772 THIS GUY WAS TRYING TO KILL HIM LESS THAN A MINUTE AGO! HE HELPED KILL LEMAR!! Sam and Bucky also killed the rest of the Flag Breakers before this, because that’s the entire point of this military operation! Your reply is also dumb.

[@Outcast115]

Wow, lots of nazis who like evil captain america on here

[@jr1212-es9bp]

“Evil captain America” oh no John walker murders 1 Terrorist supersoldier that aided in the bombing of buildings full of innocent tied up defenceless men and literally assisted in the attempted assassination of John walker 😂😂😂 He’s so evil for killing 1 dangerous terrorist 😂 Your a fucking clown

[@joscar062]

The nazis are the one thats killing people for fun, last i checked the flagsmashers arent in the military and they think they can just get away with their actions

[@dimazfantasy5252]

He is not an evil Captain America. John is a good person who wants to do a right thing and also he suffers a PTSD from his army days that make him who he is. Besides everyone was turning againts him, loses his best friend Lemar, take the shield + broke his arm by Sam and Bucky, discharged from US army by the government, getting booed by the people. His having a bad day and worst in his life, i would be stressful and get frustrated as well if i were in John's position. Overall John Walker is my favorite character in the MCU

[@ReaperAssassin28]

John Walker is no captain America he’s a wannabe with caps shield used in bad way Captain America doesn’t kill people John Walker is an imposter playing hero he sucks using the shield badly

[@dimazfantasy5252]

How and why ? He is not an evil Captain America and you don't know anything about Steve. Steve kills his enemies everytime even in during the World War 2 againts Hydra, plus John didn't ask he wants to be Captain America but the government was the one who chooses him to be the next new Captain America. And i don't think he uses the shield badly he literally trained how to use the shield prior to become Captain America. Overall John is an interesting character and the most human relatable in the MCU

[@topknot01]

"Captain America doesn’t kill people " look up Captain America kill count.