Your ROOM is messing up your SOUND!

[@DarkoAudio]

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[@nazaholicable]

As an experiment I listened to my hi-fi system at 2 am and at 2pm. The difference was night and day.

[@Davide_LP]

was it better at 2am due to electrical line stability? Do you live in an apartment? When was it built?

[@mrmick12321]

@@Davide_LP i think it was a joke

[@andrewlim7751]

@@mrmick12321 That's what most audiophiles did. 😁😁

[@lindsaywebb1904]

One of the acousticians I worked with had the opinion that a room full of books is the best way to treat a room. Maybe a ceiling cloud to deal with first reflections and maybe a diffuser somewhere to fill a hole but that's pretty much it

[@juanmillaruelo7647]

Books are both absorbers and diffusers. My experience entirely.

[@brochg]

A room full of vinyl is pretty good as well.

[@NameAndAnyNumber]

Thank you for that video👍🏼 A lot of people don't understand yet that room and its treatment is a huge part of listening experience. Upgrading speakers and amps and DACs is the battle for inches whereas adding treatment in an untreated room is a leap in miles.

[@benjaminqilafku5714]

My humble view of the importance of elements in the digital hi fi chain starting from the most important. 1 The room. 2 Speaker placement. 3 Speakers. 4 Amplifier. 5 Dac. 6 Cables. 7 Main.

[@evansstudios]

Agree, but I’d leave 6 and 7 out.

[@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac]

Wow!!

[@jwbrook]

Thank you thank you thank you. We spend so much time thinking about what kind of cabinets and baffles and wave guides our drivers are operating in. But, the room is the real cabinet. Think of the entire loudspeaker as the driver, and the room is the cabinet and waveguide. I think the thing about audiophiles is that there are no bragging rights or ego boosts to room treatment the way there are with name dropping or bragging rights about different brands, or how much money was spent on a specific component. But, the room is where the sound happens. Thank you for taking this on and taking this seriously. Hoping your efforts help shift the conversation. Much appreciated!

[@hrvojekant9415]

My rank of infuence on sound is as this: Master recording.. room.. speakers pleacement... speakers ... amp...DAC .. signal cables..mains cables and the electical instalation from the main switch board to the outlet... and finaly speakers cables. P.S. BSc electrical engineer and audiophil for some 40 Years Best regards ... and kudos to John Darco... Great job has been already done!

[@joenogueira2801]

Room treatment returns THE most bang for the buck, but it has to be done right. I've treated my dedicated listening room and there's no going back!

[@DANBOOO]

Could you go in detail a bit? Maybe 5-10 sentences, or even more if you like to? I'm interested :)

[@joenogueira2801]

@@DANBOOO DIY - wood 1X6X48 - each with 2 rock wool panels. Cover with material of your choice. Made 24 of them to take care of reflection points including 4 on ceiling. Thick wood carpet on wood floor. My dedicated room is 11X17X8.

[@7137271]

"The speakers play the room." -- Steve Guttenberg

[@ibassnote]

I also despise clutter and I feel like the balance and flow of a room is paramount to me being productive and clear-headed. That said, room treatment passes the test because I look at it and the appeal of its function can over-ride much of my design squabbling. So it’s not just design, it’s also function that brings me calm and clarity. I don’t feel at all like a control-freak but more a lover of taming chaos. Great videos. Much to think about.

[@bhupendraparekh6225]

A rug really ties the room together, perfect for listening to bowling tapes on the nakamichi.

[@erics.4113]

That rug really does tie the room together dude. The dude abides

[@noakwesterberg]

In response to John's previous comment regarding this treatment of the room potentially bringing his experience when reviewing products further from the ordinary consumer... I believe that having a treated room better allows the listener to better judge the difference between different pieces of gear. It takes the room (at least to some extent) out of the equation, thus yielding a better informed review. Although products will sound different in different rooms, this allows the reviewer to give an honest opinion on how products sound in relation to one another. I for one applaud this effort.

[@dudemastermaster8944]

Then again a consumer might have a totally different experience then he has while reviewing the gear. There are two sides of the coin.

[@russellparker4568]

I have a very modest hifi, quad s2s, m2si, ifi dac, good chord cables. Prob no more than 2.5k. What I do have is home made bass traps/diffuser behind speakers, no first reflection points, large rug on the foot under speakers and a giant rug on the front wall. It sounds 10x better with those few bits than nothing at all. Room treatment is a very powerful tool, not to mention proper speaker placement.

[@martyjewell5683]

Yup, no two rooms "sound" alike. Room size, shape, furnishings, speaker placement, standing waves and room nodes all effect what we hear. Inexpensive fixes can really help. Just don't be afraid to experiment. Glad you've found nirvana.

[@1999zrx1100]

The fact you say the room is calmer makes sense. I can’t wait to start doing my room. The echo sure doesn’t make me calm. Great stuff as usual. 👍

[@Dutchamp]

Hi Darko audio, I didn't realise how much room treatment can do. I live in a quare boxed living room. Little small house. Lucky I have got neighbours and they are quite deaf. But the sound quality isn't for them 😊 so I did cheap soundproof foam, course mainly I got it for free. Placed a 2x2 meter thin wood and glued the foam on to it. Placed that panel behind my listning position. Did the same on the ceiling but only a view tiles with open concrete spaces. A big floor carpet on the floor between speakers and listning position. Unbelievable that so little do so much. My stereo is much more focused and a detailed soundstage. Little sounds from far behind the speakers. I keep this for what it is. Next house will be getting a better angled room and full acoustic treatment. I bet this treatment is far more valueble the all my cable upgrades and sourses upgrades combined. Thank you for the great video. Cheers

[@kubjohal]

I wonder how effective John's sheep wool collars would be at dampening unwanted peaks ....🤔

[@gsherlock]

5-6 years ago I bought some GIK panels for first reflections, the cost vs the level of improvement was way more than most of my equipment upgrades.

[@starbase218]

Since I invested in GIK bass traps and mid-high absorbers I have come to realize that your speakers talk to your room, and your room in turn talks to you. Acoustic treatment can make a massive difference.

[@georgeswanson9483]

Another factor is certain speakers exacerbate room problems more than others. Dipole or open baffle speakers seem to excite room modes less but paradoxically are more visually intrusive. Pick your poison, visually intrusive loudspeakers or visually intrusive room treatments.

[@moulesanctuary]

As a record producer and mix engineer working through 80s working In the best studios in the world seeing the demise of tape to digital I can say you speak so much sense it’s really refreshing. Your room is everything, I can destroy a great mix and wreck the sound of potentially great gear ... nice work .. I now follow you ... ps I am in the market for a streamer with a dac

[@aussierob7177]

I have curtains of different materials installed on all 4 walls of the room. They can open and close to expose part of the walls. Behind the curtains there are sections of the walls with other material attached flat against the wall. The floor is covered in thick carpet. The only true reflecting surface is the ceiling The room is also a home cinema with 120 inch motorised screen. Heavy motorised velvet curtains open and close in front of the screen. With the speakers placed about 3 feet in from the side walls and about 4 feet from the front wall I get a very non-fatiguing sound image where i can definitely hear the natural reverberation of the instruments in the recording giving an almost 3 dimensional soundstage

[@jimomertz]

Room treatment definitely helps. My room used to be quite reflective, and playing music that had a lot of reverb in it was beyond irritating. It was unlistenable. Absorbers took care of that and now it’s just a recording with reverb in it. I would say the soundstage is more focused now, with better localization of the players in the recording, although narrowed. I can play music for longer periods of time and not get fatiguing. I’m happy I did it. I didn’t have to use ceiling treatment, which I consider going too far.

[@harryatkinson9757]

I’d like to have some room correction capability for screaming kids and wives!

[@onzinlife]

Noice canceling headphones

[@sebastiaanhoenderdos7458]

Check your local locksmith, he might have the solution to correct your. Either that or some noice cancelling ducttape

[@LOUDERthanU]

Check your system for a round dial. Turning it clockwise tends to work for me….

[@The-Spotlight-Kid]

Sell them to slave traders & bob's yer uncle

[@garypick007]

For most partnered up men … dream on the female in your life will 99% say no.. While single, I’ll look at doing a scaled down version when I move into my new place. Currently my daughters ask me why I have so many sets of speakers!! Can’t wait to see their reaction when I do something similar to this 😂 Another great video and continues to educate and give ideas..

[@eyelovelil]

I would like to say You Make Me Sick in the most positive way ever. You are as happy as a cat or dog being adopted from a shelter. The joy on your face, in your voice & expression say it all. I want what you have pure joy of a complete system i.e. room included. Love the video & update, the information is priceless. Keep it coming but tone down your happiness your making us jealous.

[@themoistgreenorganic]

Love this topic so much. Currently, I have 2 panels on my side walls, 4 hexagon panels on my ceiling and 2 floor to ceiling bass traps. I’m lucky since it is a basement room, but the results are stunning so far. I had no lasers or precise placements other than where they looked right but love the effect on music and dialogue. I have 2 more wall panels on the way and 2 more ceiling hexagons.

[@jeffreythurston1822]

The room looks amazing and purposeful.

[@bitterandjaded_]

Glad to see you kept the acoustically treated houseplants as well. I need some of those.

[@doifeellucky]

Looks great. Big chunks of fudge. I think it works well with the room size. Unfortunately I think it would be too dominant in our much smaller room. Look forward to hearing more about it.

[@tristanyseult]

Having been to a good few concerts, Wembley , Albert hall etc I was allways impressed how good the ceiling curtaining was. So I tried tapestries, ceiling skirts and the like and was very very surprised how easily dampening could work. Callways

[@fernandozegarraaudio8144]

John, I can only congratulate you on the decision you have made, for a few years now I also mentioned it in one of your videos, each time you improve more, since you removed the central rack and left it free, then you put bass traps in the corners and obasorption on the front wall, as you have already realized, this makes a BIG difference to listen to equipment, everything is cleaned, there is less stress, the brain does not get tired trying to discover what is in music, it is like when You are at the bar and try to listen to the person who is speaking to you, that is a mere example of what is achieved by helping the brain to work less and enjoy more. And when you get used to that sound and remove it, you will no longer be able to live without it and it is now that you know that the most important thing in the audio chain is the room and the speakers, as well as their correct position with respect to the listener. Congratulations

[@cm96yyc]

You can put canvas or burlap over the foam to change the color if you like since those are fairly acoustically transparent.

[@jorgerodriguez6042]

hello Darko sorry if you know this but when you get rug make sure is made of pure wool one is more healthy and is good to stop reflection from the floor and one more time hello o hola from MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA but i am originally from URUGUAY

[@markwilson0077]

I've invested almost an equal portion of funding into Audio Video equipment and room treatment. Absolutely no regrets!

[@nicholaslim7259]

Best HiFi channel, you can learn so much without having to deal with bullcrap

[@buffal0bilious]

The new panels look great! Also, I see you've got the Meze Audio Liric there. Can't wait to (hopefully) hear your thoughts on it. Because I'm a renter that moves regularly and often live in spaces that are acoustic nightmares, I have a small collection of panels that do help, but there's only so much you can do when your space is changing every couple years. Owning a room that I can treat to the nines and turn into an ideal listening space is at the top of my audio bucket list.

[@supabayes3284]

Agree that the room messes up our music when we have large speakers and play loud enough. Suggest you also try PSI Audio AVAA C20 bass traps and also Trinnov Amethyst for room optimisation.

[@5angels332]

I really enjoyed these two reviews. Everything you say makes perfect sense. Our ears are the most important component of any system and we can tweak things to make the system sound better through speaker positioning, better cabling etc etc. I can still remember the first time I found the sweet spot for my speakers, it was as if I had upgraded my whole system. Thanks for sharing John, keep them coming.

[@aaronfriedman8201]

Great Video. I also ordered 8 6" deep GIK panals for my room. Since mine is a Living/home theatre/ stereo room all in one I had to really think it out so it would look less like panals and more like modern art works.

[@ShaneTregurtha]

I feel ya man. Audiophillia vs Minimalist Zen....The struggle is real!

[@erics.4113]

Us minimalists suffer the most in this domain. If you're a hoarder that packs stuff floor to ceiling you'll probably have a decent sounding room. At least reflections will be handled. But the desire for a room free of clutter and lots of bulky furniture and cabinets is such an echo chamber that will destroy your hifi system.

[@davidcox3833]

@@erics.4113 I think it looks more clinical than minimal. But he's happy, which is all that matters really. Music is The Best.

[@bennjaminscott4374]

Just started dipping my toe into treating my room, so thank you for these latest videos, very interesting and relevant.

[@mikeables]

I like the white color of the ceiling mounted one. The wood jobs with the black slots would look better if they were all white. I always see those in the wood with speaker cloth looking slots and think they look ugly. White cabinet with white grill cloth would look better and provide a better backdrop for any art on the wall.

[@Harry-Giles]

I have thoroughly enjoyed this journey. Thanks Darko!

[@Hush99]

Green seems like a bold choice. Looking forward to seeing it.

[@GrahamAtDesk]

I totally agree with you about the room - I think it's the best bang for buck upgrade there is. And environmentally, I bet it's far more responsible than just buying more electronics. 👏👏👏

[@tigerfish66]

When HiFi gets SERIOUS.......Fixing your room acoustics is cool but brave to undertake, well done Mr darko, giant leap.......mucho respect.

[@adamyelle4901]

Love what you've done with the room! Very professional. I can hear the difference in your voice. Enjoy!

[@josexavierjr.5633]

Once again, very nice John. Your place looks like the interior of a lively recording studio............hope it meets your expectations.

[@matthewhilty4209]

I really like that phrase "icing a burnt cake" its much more eloquent than the term "rolling a turd in sugar". Added to vocabulary inventory.

[@ecyfoto]

I’m curious if you’ve now begun to second guess previous speaker reviews? I’m envious of your room treatments. Nice couple of vids, John.

[@krancan25]

You are right that if a piece of hi-fi hear would bring as much positive change as a room treatment, everyone would rush to buy it… What is really going to be a challenge is comparing gear from the past to something you listen now in the treated room…

[@geertvanbergen3905]

Wow John, I'm jealous! Also of the separate listening room, and fully treated. I must say that I've had/heard great improvements over the last months by using your previous tips into on acoustic treatments in a room (rugs, plants, soft furniture, corners, speaker placement etc.). Keep up the good work.

[@tigertiger1699]

Cheers John!! A real advantage & privilege having you as a guide.

[@thesmithselvis]

Life is short, and that room treatment is living the dream.

[@joet6434]

I imagine the room treatment cost a pretty penny, but as you mentioned, you only live once. If music, the sound it produces in your home to your ears enhances your experience and enjoyment in your life; it is worth it. For your average consumer who loves music like myself, we too strive for that elusive sound quality we have in our mind with the caviat being best bang for our buck. Your channel is always very informative; even if many items mentioned aren't readily available or within my price range, it is still always nice to hear what can be done with certain item variations or placemens or materials. A most entertaining and informative video and channel, I hope you are happy with the sound you are currently getting and success with future endeavours to improve it as it always ongoing the struggle for excellence.

[@edwardferry8247]

I think they look very nice. Lovely design and a sense of calm. Congratulations 🎉

[@vladimirdorta6692]

Great video. You help people understand the very complex interactions of sound in rooms so it seems very simple. Thanks.

[@9duckman9]

I love your analogies. Like you, I’m often trying to explain concepts with “non-standard” analogies. Most people seem to think wtf but they’re really good for visualization and communication.

[@hendrikvanderlinde9680]

We treated 2/3rd of our ceiling with stretch material, with sound absorbing material above it. It costs €100 per m2, so for 45m2 that was quite an investment, but we got rid of the reverb in our room. Music sound improved a lot. It was a difference of night and day, really. Best investment ever for getting better sound. I don't think that we will treat the part of the ceiling that was not treated. The room now sounds about right. I think there's a risk of overdoing it. At one point it may start to sound too dry, where all sound is being absorbed. Determining the sweet spot is difficult. I must say that our ceiling looks better than the stuff you've got up there. It looks just like a regular white ceiling, so there's no offers to made there. There's also an aesthetic factor to take into account. I still want some art to decorate the walls.

[@rickgerritsen8972]

Roomtreatment is surely one of my dreams and possibly my next step in the "upgrade virus". Yours looks really neat and the materials used are very nice. I unfortunately noticed that some panels were not placed strait next to each other. With this kind of minimalistic looking treatment this will stand out. This should have been done properly; especially for the money and done by specialists. I definately don't want to spoil anything or mean be blunt, but they should correct it. (it's my opinion; compare it with hanging a painting a bit off axis).

[@carlitomelon4610]

I spent the first video thinking that my REL subs would suck those panels off the velcro! 🎶🤫🎶

[@martinjordan9122]

Hi John, your voice is softer and clearer now in the "new" room. Actually, I had to turn the volume up a little, but that is not a bad comment, it just compensated for your softer voice. BTW Apparently books (on bookshelves) have great reverb-damping properties.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗THANKS JOHN …FOR DOING THIS FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED 😎 AND I AM SURE YOU WILL ENJOY IT EVERY TIME YOU USE IT 🤗 AND THIS WILL HELP YOU IN YOUR “ WORK “ AND ALL OF US WILL BENEFIT 🤗🤗🤗😍😍😍

[@evilmonstertruck]

Excellent video. Working on my room now bits and pieces at a time. It make such a big difference with every new thing I buy. I can't wait until I'm done. I really love this channel. It's very informative but also weirdly calming... May be the accent. Ha. Keep up the great work

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

What’s their solution if you have lots of windows in a room?

[@johnpeschke7723]

Mr. Darko, I love your videos. you look for a perfect listening experience knowing that it isn't possible...but you try and i have found some low cost tweaks to bring out more clarity and precision from my humble little system. Thanks.

[@marcmoehlig7655]

"Icing a burnt cake" 🤣 John, it must be said you are unique...

[@justlookingaround9834]

I’d have nowhere to hang my pictures! Looks very good as well.

[@samsstuff1482]

Love your style and approach. After listening (almost fully) your podcast episode about the amount of work you do for each video… Well I appreciate these even more. 👍 This room treatment series has been extremely informative and helpful and I suppose the additional information will keep on coming in as you get more acquainted with your new room. So. Good job and keep it rolling. 👍

[@htautomat]

Such a real guy…I loved the presentation and your obvious enthusiasm. I’m new to the idea of acoustical treatment of my own listening space, I have always just managed to stick my head in the sand and try to deny any flaws existed because this was MY wonderful hi-fi gear in MY comfortable home! So just now watching this video caused a spark of comprehension: practical and strategically placed acoustical solutions really do appear to provide a remarkable improvement of sound quality in the listening space, considering the amount of effort involved. And there’s the rub: the kind of treatment shown in your video uses some very expensive acoustic panels. Beautiful to be sure, but rather costly. I’m going to have to do my room treatment more in a DIY manner (sure would be nice to have some of those DC2/DC3 diffusers) and my main question is how do I determine placement of panels, diffusers and traps? Is there some rule of thumb on this, or do I need to have some electronic measurement taken? I think I have the right ideas concerning construction of the panels etc, and since I would be building them myself the subject of “how many” and “where” comes into play. Any and all recommendations on this topic are welcome, it will be knowledge that I don’t currently have. -Thank you -

[@shanestephenson8423]

Need to do a fair bit of this myself. But unfortunately living in Australia is difficult to find a accompany to do a holistic approach treatment set up. Love your room it looks fantastic.😁🎧👍

[@danboy77]

Room treatment is great and without my bass traps in all 4 corners I find I lose detail in the deepest bass notes. But I have also discovered the chair you sit in can affect sound, I sit on a hard surfaced leather Chesterfield sofa and it definitely has a negative affect on the sound.

[@adotopp1865]

Had the same problem when we got a leather suite

[@FOH3663]

Chesterfield? Davenport here ...

[@davidl2153]

Two things come to mind. Many people have completely the opposite issue i.e. Over damped rooms. What I found was with a sofa, carpeted floor and one curtain the room was pretty good. However I had to have a pair of large curtains and two sofa's and now I am over damped. You notice it seems to take the dynamic attack from the sound. I still have a suck out but I think that is the acoustics of a connected room causing cancellation in the bass. But I fear adding more room treatment will dampen further the room leading to a dead and lifeless sound. Then we have the matter of the looks well personal taste and all but I don't see many wags going for it.

[@NameAndAnyNumber]

Based on you description you need to introduce some diffusion in you room. As you see in the video almost all surfaces are covered with absorbers and diffusers combined. Some frequencies above 400-500Hz reflected back in the room, but with semi-even scattering, so you can have some ambience. Sofas and curtains are not professionally made treatment and their effect is unpredictable. If you approach treatment holistically and treat you room as a whole, as John did, results will be very pleasant. As he showed in a video he had some GIK panels, but there wasn't nearly enough of them. What Vicoustic did is they are evaluated dimensions of a empty room and added reasonable mix of diffusion and absorption based on that.

[@erics.4113]

I was thinking diffusers like the last comment. I just ruined my room by clearing out all the storage and "stuff" from it, getting ready to do a build-out for a dedicated listening room. It's now reflective, hollow, empty, and I went from excellent soundstage to a muddled sounding space that is pinging high freq around and ruining all clarity in the highs and destroying soundstage effect. I knew it would, but didn't realize to the degree it would do this. I am actually unable to listen to anything in there right now it's that awful. Interestingly though, I have noticed that certain parts of the lower mid range/upper bass have improved. There is more body there where it used to sound thinner and more lifeless. So some room reverberation does give some liveliness to the sound in my particular room. I now somewhat have an idea of my goal, this balance between the over damped setup previously and the horrible echo plex it is now.

[@bynahelemaal]

I’ve always heard people say ‘yeah, get curtains’ as an easy, non-invasive attempt at treatment! I got these curtains that are supposed to muffle noise from outside and don’t let any light through… you’d think they’d muffle sounds from inside too, yet now I experience more echo then I’ve ever had before! Before the echo wasn’t even noticeable😐

[@JeffJacquesmd]

But wait! John! Are you relatable? Yeah, you are. Thanks for sharing this part of the journey with us. It would be great to understand what something like this costs, I'm in the US so I'd need to find a local expert, and impact to the ear(s). Cheers Dr. Jeff One other thought. I wonder if there is anyone who can measure how an individual "hears" and measures room acoustics and then comes up with a room treatment that optimizes sound for the individual. And I say the individual because as a married man with children, music is largely an individual experience and less so a social one. So the investment would be about how I hear, not how the rest of my family hears.

[@Underview]

A true audiophile, bravo.

[@tedjensen8841]

Great project. Well done and appreciate your perspective.

[@rothgartheviking858]

This is some of your best work. Great Advice!

[@thobekanikhoza4038]

congratulations and well done! looks stunning this set up

[@1959ludo]

I have for me good sounding equipment but my living room isn’t ok but I can live with it. The last few years I was streaming Spotify in premium quality with my IPad using a dragonfly cobalt dac with a Hifiman Sundara headphone and I stream with Apple Airplay 2 to my stereo streaming receiver but I wanted more. I have seen your videos about Apple lossless music and I was inspired. But for the settings of the music I couldn’t follow so I contacted Apple Help and they helped me fantastic, so now I’m listening to Apple Music in lossless to Jethro Tull the album Songs from the wood and I can hear the difference. Thank you so much for your fine videos and be assured that I keep following you. Kind regards, Ludo Belgium

[@billd4328]

Interesting use of acoustic wadding on the shirt...

[@charlesdavis5542]

@@bobb.9917 You realize, of course, you can expect to pay much more for those "limited-edition,pre-worn tees in their unwashed,sweaty natural state-perfect when listening to your Blue Note original pressings(mono only)." John,I think I've just stumbled over a way for you to really maximize your sites profitability... 🤔

[@johnpischedda6951]

I reckon the aesthetics look good no different to art work on the walls . Nice job !

[@osliverpool]

If you possess a bit of woodworking ability and a couple of basic tools (a saw and a drill/driver, maybe a hammer) you can build sound treatment pretty cheaply. I started recently, and I only have a couple of diffusers up so far (on the front wall). And I think it already makes a noticeable improvement to the depth and precision of the soundstage, and brings a bit more clarity to the mid-range. I have a completely bare rear wall, so that's next.

[@NameAndAnyNumber]

You absolutely right. But people in the comments are freaked out by professionally made precisely manufactured panels. Imagine what their wives will say when they hang a bunch of DIY boxes around a house))))

[@martyjewell5683]

Swell lookin' lava lamp. I've learned some interesting stuff in this video. Got my first "component" hifi system in 1975 after military service and broke. Yup, it was budget all the way. Plopped down the receiver, put the turntable on a solid surface not too close to the amp and speakers went on shelves in the room corners. Man, it was boss. No idea of the Physics involved in room acoustics.

[@oevereng]

Thank you so much. Always checking for your videos.

[@itsmetimmee]

looks amazing

[@chuckisidro8624]

I totally agree with you; the room has to be treated well before even considering any upgrades. Have you heard of Still Points Aperture panels? I’ve heard so much good stuff about them but they are quite pricey.

[@elcasho]

So true, acoustic treatments makes the difference!

[@realcrypt1206]

Awesome and looks great, as I was watching the last video my first thought was that double sided tape was an ambitious piece of the ceiling installation puzzle, but otherwise looks awesome and gives me one more thing to add to my dream list, fantastic mate !

[@ericpernin7614]

Once again a very useful and clever vidéo. It gives me some ideas and willingness to dig into this topic. I'm a little bit afraid of the investment, but it is something I will care about now (like loundspeaker placement on which I took sometimes to understand how key it is). Thanks again. Eric

[@radusansebes3517]

If you want to improve the sound just go to the theatre and copy the design. Some surfaces have to be absorbing so the sound will not "ricoche" and will not make an echo. The sound will reach all your room so you have to plan each corner.

[@paulsebring6930]

The stereophonic spatial image is an illusion created at the listener's ears, not in the room or between the speakers. Speakers produce sound that reflects from room surfaces. Phantom stereophonic illusions do not produce sound. The best room is treated to become a Reflection Free Zone RFZ around the listener. No one cares what the room sounds like anywhere other than where the listener is. You don't want to copy the design of a theatre because you will reproduce the sound of speakers in a theatre, not the sound of singers and musical instruments in a theatre.

[@DuSeun]

I think you give theatres too much credit. A theatre is not treated to perfection for the single listener in the middle. A theatre is treated to sound acceptable for everyone in the room, for as little money as possible. Also, most rooms have windows, doors, weird corners and low ceilings, so it would be near to impossible to replicate a theatre

[@martinlindberg1983]

i love your stuff! Very informative as usual. Please, keep putting perspective like "Should I buy treatment or a "better" DAC" and what has the most bang for the buck talk. Everybody that knows a little bit of HiFi knows what a treated room do for you, the rest here are living in denial. The denial is there when you know that you are not allowed to make installations like this. Bass and mid bass are tough to tame! Very very few people can do what you have accomplished here both money wise and aesthetically, but there is really no short cuts to tame a room. Some people that don´t have a dedicated room for treatment can try to compensate with Dirac or similar, but with limited effect. It comes down to find a middle road between WAF and sound quality if you don´t have a dedicated room or you have your own castle. Everybody has different prerequisites.Speaker (away from front wall) and room has the largest effect, but you can always buy a new cable and fool yourself :) Amen.

[@davidcox3833]

I love your videos and I'm chuffed that you like the results of the treatment. I personally love near-field listening. I find it more immersive and engaging. I love my very "entry-level" system. Music is The Best. And thankyou for introducing me to some great new-to-me music.

[@MrPaolodacanay]

Could you share photos of the room?

[@adelkharisov]

Sonacoustic cellulose spray above sonacoustic 65 mm mineral wool on cement glue to existing ceiling will make your white ceiling look as good as untreated, 100% wife acceptable, but without a lot of high and upper mid freq. reverb and no issues:)

[@StuartMcFarlane]

I had Vicoustics do the modelling for my living room too. While I've not purchased any of the products yet I was happy with the proposal they produced.

[@peterkeller-larsen6786]

what did they charge for the proposal?

[@paulf5055]

You can hear it on this video

[@michaelmartin3026]

Great as always!

[@rb032682]

In 99% of residential listening rooms/home theaters what is the one common component of an audio system which was NOT built to provide the best audio quality at a given price point???........... the room. Reducing high-frequency reflections is great, but if the low frequencies are not treated, the results will be less than desired.

[@The-Spotlight-Kid]

There are places in my room where the bass sounds great but those 2 places are impractical & far from my listening position or anywhere even close to it. Only if i stand with my head a foot or less against a side wall half way down my room's length is the bass deep & natural when the music calls for it to be. Even bass harmonics of higher pitch instruments, especially oboes, cellos, bassoons & baritone saxaphones suffer greatly i.e. unless i stick my head onto a side wall to hear how they should sound, where instruments sound lifelike or very close to as if played live in the concert hall or chamber. I like all genres from A... (good band) ...to Zulu mass charts & the low end is seriously compromised on all genres, deep bass dissapears compared with standing with my head against the side wall. I've tried everything allowable (by the misses) to fix it but cannot, i have 13 (yes 13) inch bass drivers on my B&W proffesionally restored 1973 made hybrid electrotatics (B&W DM 70 Continentals) B&W's best speaker to present date according to many who've heard all B&W's made, i havent but next to my recently unusable 15" Tannoys DC's (1 speaker's driver suddenly started a concophonous msgnet rubbing sound i'm well familiar with from decades of many soeakers) those 2 speaker types are easily my all time fave's & the B&Ws esp' are capable of fast, tight & ultra deep bass that i heard in the accoustically treated hi-fi shop showroom where i bought them s/h (naturally) but i cannot hear them like that at home where my living room is the limiting factor. P.S. Bass wavelength at 20 Hz is well over 100'ft at zero db loss. The single longest cathedral organ pipe (for deepest pitch) is somewhere in Germany & 2 or 3 centuries old, it's bass pipe is 128 ft tall & dips to 16'hz but at 3 db down (256'ft pipe would be zero db loss i presume) while all other deepest bass pipes of cathedral organs are 16, 32 & very rarely 64'ft feet long, they still do around 16'hz but at 12, 18 or 24 db down kength depending i.e. 1/4 or 1/16 or 1/32'nd the full wavelength. I may have the maths slightly off from reading old books on accoustics decades ago, but that is approx correct & the accurate trend, meaning we'd need impossibly** massive rooms for true deep bass. **i.e. impossible if your surname isn't Rothschild or Musk (or even Hunter B.)