Big 12 Conspiracy: Did the Refs Steal a Win for BYU?

[@ssebo8354]

As a BYU fan, I really want to just say that we should all just calm down and make sure that Harlan keeps his job. The last thing we need is Utah getting a capable Athletic Director. Make sure this guy keeps his job forever.

[@stanjohnson7754]

That's funny. :) Still, while I'm not U fan, I have lost jobs before. Though I have no personal opinion on Harlan, I would feel bad if he lost his job over a single moment not well thought through. True, it happens, and true, he really should have known better, but unemployment isn't something I'd wish on most people. Still, he was good enough to accept the consequences, so I give him props for that. Thing is, if his comments were enough to get the U kicked out of the Big 12, that'd represent a large potential loss of revenue and clout for the school. At that point, the U might just ask Harlan to move on; and I wouldn't blame them.

[@dostacos1]

@@stanjohnson7754Utah’s ultimate goal is the Big 10, I can’t imagine that his little outburst helped Utah’s reputation in their eyes.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

ONE TIME to the NCAA Big Dance.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Should be: Under Harlem Utah has not won a single bowl game nor have the made the NCAA big dance.

[@mariemarchant1155]

@@stanjohnson7754 he was good enough to accept the consequences! LOL. He didn’t have a choice. He not only ruined his reputation but makes the school look bad!

[@joelharris3389]

It is hilarious how Utah complained about former PAC 12 refs. That's right, the Reffing crew last night came from the PAC 12.

[@Box4accounts1Zavala]

Yup! And is B.S. because BYU had a game changing Tempo from a Bad Call against BYU in the 1st Half, that was never "Reviewed," other than ESPN's own Re-plays from 5 angles. Also, ALSO! the Utes were shut-down from Scoring entire 2nd Half!.

[@quegacho077]

I am USC fan who noticed that right away!

[@BruceWayne-n7k]

I will say, Ute QB Rose and their DB Smith acted with class in the press conference and were baited with questions about the hold and neither one bit. They took responsibility of their own play and said “it’s just football”.

[@5364310gb]

To bad that their coach can't act with class

[@gingerallman798]

Agreed. I thought the same thing. And they seemed to on the field after the game with the BYU players. Bernard is the one I noticed.

[@cindywalpole2227]

Smith was a class act unlike Kyle or Harlan!

[@joelberger5618]

I’m a long time Utah fan, but enjoy watching all football. Let’s say I have a biased view of who I want to win. However I have an open mind and unbiased perspective of on field or on court calls and plays. I can say unequivocally that if roles were reversed that my Utah friends would go to their deaths saying that the call of holding was definitely a correct and necessary call and would swear that it had been going on the whole game. The fact is it was a good call. We, the Utes, couldn’t find a way to score in the second half. Our coaches were so conservative in playing not to lose rather than playing to win. Our last possession if we even get a first down with the ball at midfield we can run the clock out. We got a break in the first half with the facemask that wasn’t one. It removed a sack of a huge loss and gave us a positive 15 yards and a first down and created an opportunity for us to get a touchdown. We would have had to punt. Look at the final stats. Our mistakes hurt us. After the holding call, BYU made big plays and we couldn’t stop them from getting into position to score. They kicked a pressure packed 44 yard field goal as the clock was running out. They earned the win. We happily took the calls that went our way. Fact is our coaches decisions in previous games that took pretty sure points off the table to gamble for more points which in the end cost our Utah team at least two wins. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes your decisions bring you wins and sometimes it doesn’t. Accept your mistakes. Look at the final game stats. BYU made plays in the end to win a game that was almost completely even in the stats, except We lost special teams and turnovers. There you have it. It wasn’t calls unless we as Utah fans think that we are entitled to only have all calls go our way and that our players never make mistakes to be penalized for. We need to get over ourselves. Mark Harlan needs to put the pacifier in and shut his pie hole. Be grateful the Big12 accepted us into the conference. Just play football the way we should have been. It’s like we were so full of ourselves because we were picked as the sure thing to win the league and that the league was responsible to escort us throughout the year to be king of the Big12. However now we are getting a humility check. Too bad for Isaac Wilson. A true freshman having to be thrown into taking the reins of a team but knowing Rising was the guy and so shared snaps in practice. Week by week like Bryson Barnes last year in seeing if Cam Rising would play or not. Cam has held the team hostage. We need to play with urgency and finish strong so the players can play in a bowl game.

[@nathaneyring4858]

I'm a BYU fan and love your perspective. Being honest on my side though, had I been in the Utes' shoes I would have been very frustrated by the call. I've only seen one angle in slow-mo personally that makes me really feel it was holding, which I searched for that to prove myself right as a BYU fan and I wouldn't have cared to look had it gone against me like that. I have to give the Utes credit too for coming to play as hard as they did. All in all though, while there is a sadistic part of me that enjoys seeing the Utes do poorly, in reality I hope that in the coming years BYU and Utah can meet with both vying for the conference championship. Utah has proven in recent years they can do it, and I can only hope that this year for BYU is not just an anomaly!

[@chandlerr1912]

This is the voice of reason people need to hear.

[@2009chumpchange]

Great comment. However, byu stats were far superior. That's why, to your point, the team up north didn't score the second half. The best point is ironically the loser's coaches didn't cry or complain about the bad calls that handed them points.

[@laddlish]

Isaac will end up leaving the program. So that game cost you more than you know.

[@johnmcho]

Thou almost persuadest me to be a Ute fan.

[@SydJames-w2m]

Utah did not complain about the bad calls against BYU that led to 7 points for Utah just before the half. A roughing the passer and a face mask call that was proven wrong. Utah has no reason to complain. Learn to follow Kalani's example.

[@dostacos1]

Eh the roughing the passer was legit, but the facemask was really bad

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Idiots wearing red throw water bottles and knock out a BYU cheer coach, Utah is always classy. When Whitt kicks a chair, Harland makes an ass out of himself, what an example. No wonder their fans act out. BYU fans love the Big 12 as evidenced by the numbers that travel to the away games. I was in Orlando and we had 40% of the seating in blue.

[@CharlesKim-ee8ie]

And..."Utah took advantage of a big break - Glasker apparently sacked Rose for a big loss, but officials flagged Glasker for a facemask penalty that didn’t appear to be legitimate - and quickly went 45 yards to become the first team all season to go up two scores on BYU." - Jay Drew

[@T1000_2]

Is there video of this coach being knocked unconscious?

[@BruceWayne-n7k]

@@T1000_2not that I’ve seen yet, but there is a police report and apparent person identified. We’ll see what comes out the next few days. Maybe not, but I’ve heard multiple witnesses.

[@dracwahlss]

Acting like BYU fans are any better, such a contradiction of a fan base who pretends to be "classy." both fan bases are as fake as it gets and anyone outside the state of Utah would never understand.

[@darrinworkman951]

@@BruceWayne-n7k Are these the same witnesses who swore that Max Hall’s family had that imaginary beer poured on them ?

[@jojr5145]

Kudos to BYU for pulling the win. However, my heavens, they need better clock management, and to better manage their substitutions on offense. It cost them at least a FG in the first half.

[@grouchyjudge]

The clock management has been horrendous for six years. Six. That's how long their OC has been on the staff. It's been happening since his very first game with them. And absolutely nothing has been done to fix it. It happens every single game at least once and it's maddening

[@mrisaax1747]

Agreed. We were lucky we had enough time on the clock to get down the field and get that last field goal off. We can’t be using valuable timeouts 30 seconds into the half.

[@BruceWayne-n7k]

Harlan was actually out on the field during the return itself and Utah had a chance to return but the flag was thrown during the play, which means had they had a miracle returned, it would’ve been negated because of him. One other note, the BYU cheer coach got a hard water bottle thrown at his head after the game and knocked him Unconscious. Police investigated and have the alleged perpetrator. This is why it’s ridiculous to play these guys every year especially at RES. Incredibly hostile and gets violent at times.

[@MikeHeath]

I soooo wish Utah had returned that kickoff for a TD only for it to be called back because of Harlan being a Karen. THAT would have been the perfect end to the game.

[@louisdeaux8620]

JOHN, This article is my response to Ute fans. I think you will like it... Reality checks. There is a reason fans cannot be trusted with objective reality. Passion and emotion make for bad chemistry. So how about a reality check this morning. 1. The Big12 welcomed you including the BYU Administration that lobbied for you over other worthy candidate institutions. 2. Part of being in a conference is accepting responsibility for civility within that league. 3. Your AD, Mark Harlan embarrassed Utah Both the University and the State last night. Now let's discuss the game. Utah played their butts off. Having said that the game did not come down to one blown incorrect face mask penalty that aided your first TD, nor did it come down to a holding call that left BYU 80 yards of field to go. With regard to the former, the officiating crew admitted in a bang-bang play they got it wrong. Error benefitted Utah. As for the hold, it was clear and obvious. The Ute CB actually nearly dragged BYU's Receiver off his feet and though he regained his balance the flag was already thrown. Film from various end zone angles show the official looking right at that play and yanking his yellow hankie. He made a correct call. Furthermore, Utah secondary had been warned several times throughout the game by the officials that they were skirting the edge of permissable contact. They had been told to knock it off. Now in the end it was NOT a phantom call, and so the next thing some fans would say in both cases if this were reversed and benefitted Utah is the false notion... ... "You can't make that call at that moment." Really? But the law doesn't change just because the game is nearly over does it? Let's say you jump out of an airplane and you free fall 9,000 feet adhearing to the law of gravity. At 1000 feet you pull the rip chord. But your chute does not open and as you realize plummeting to your death you cannot say, "Wait, you can't make that call, I want a do over." Natural laws are given to us to teach us that a law is applicable from beginning to end. People saying the official should have let the obvious hold go are pretending there is a grace period at the end of games when the law no longer applies. That's ridiculous. Blaming the officials for being the ground rising up to meet the plummeting body is not a worthy argument. The Utes did not lose the game on that play. They lost because BYU drove the length of the field and kicked 3 trough the uprights with 4 seconds left on the clock. As badly as BYU played much of the night, it played better defense than Utah and BYU's Special Teams put 16 of the 22 points necessary to win on the scoreboard. Whine all you want and this is a lesson for BYU fans as well. You do not always get do-overs. But the laws of the game apply all the time, from the jump, to the ground. It's just that in football, officials do not always see every foul or make a correct call. They did in this case. By the way Ute Fans, the officials huddled. I thought they might call the penalty off but the back judge and boundary officials confirmed the call. That was a good call, rules of the game. You have to live with it. BYU won the game. Mark Harlan, Utah Athletic Director, disgraced the University and the College Football Playoff Committee. He should be expelled from the latter and asked to resign by the former. L. E. Deaux Sports Forum West FWAA 1982-Present Las Vegas, Nevada

[@Mobius118]

Incredible analysis, I have nothing to add here

[@dougattridge4877]

Not to mention the big 12 actually made at least $40,000 off the holy war😂

[@Snowboarder-ov2ss]

And the weekly Mark Harlan trophy for the team who believes they won a game that they didn't goes to (drumroll please).... Utah!

[@joelharris3389]

Hilarious! The level of ridiculous behavior, wow he must be under tremendous pressure.

[@magnashield8604]

This is the Holy War. Now the rest of you know what we mean.

[@loumos8364]

ESPN power index has BYU as the best resume only trailing Oregon. so the idea that boise is better is silly at best.

[@ripvanwinkle6886]

Can a majority of Big 12 schools presidents vote out/expel Utah?

[@glaucidiumgnoma5797]

Idk it’s kinda nice to have a low end team that everyone can beat up on

[@naujelbr]

You’d lose your only top end football program.

[@junglemoose2164]

​@@naujelbr Top end? LOL

[@wasatchm]

it's not a low end program. just crappy coaching decisions this year. playing wilson instead of rose probably costed them 2 wins. playing rising while he was injured costed them a game. QB Rose appears to be much better than wilson. the utah offensive line is their weakness. and having a QB that can run like rose would have completely changed their offense for the better (the offensive playbook would have expanded significantly. it will be interesting to see if they win the rest of their games. i would expect them to.....if they play the rest of their games as good as they did against BYU, i think they will win them all. i think rose will only get better with each game. OC ludwig got fired in part because the offense was stagnant and their offense was so predictible. that was partly wilson's fault as he isn't as versatile as rose. wilson's longball accuracy is not very good. he's accurate up to about 20 yards. so when wilson can't run, and he isn't accurate passed 20 yards, the offense becomes very predictible.

[@Mike-aka747]

Boise has a better football program. They would be happy to be here. Big XII would win with that trade BYU has the Utah market in its pocket now, so that’s covered. Plus we as BYU fans would gain a better cleaner rivalry w/BSU. This holy war is too toxic ..

[@CharlesKim-ee8ie]

Didn't listen to this video. What did Whitingham say about the 25 yard net gain they had on a face mask that wasn't against BYU? Jay Drew Deseret News- "Utah took advantage of a big break - Glasker apparently sacked Rose for a big loss, but officials flagged Glasker for a facemask penalty that didn’t appear to be legitimate - and quickly went 45 yards to become the first team all season to go up two scores on BYU." What about this Whit!? Does it go both ways!?

[@davem3048]

NEVER goes go the ways. Utah thinks their birthright is to win this game every year.

[@byuftbl]

Of course it doesn’t. It only goes one way when you lose 😂

[@brannonburton5494]

A sack for a loss of down vs a 15 yard penalty and first down is a huge swing.

[@biggiesmalljaws]

Jay Drew is the most BYU biased journalist on The Church’s Newpaper there ever was 😂 Watch the video of the play and you can clearly see the defenders thumb hook the face mask as he drags the QB to the ground via the inside of his shoulder pads. It was not only a face mask, but a horse collar as well by definition of the penalty. If it wasn’t either, then please tell me how exactly the tackle was made by the defender and what he grabbed on the QB to make the tackle.

[@samuelrussell5760]

@@biggiesmalljaws Horsecollar tackles are from the back. If it was his pads, it was the front of his pads, which is legal.

[@Box4accounts1Zavala]

A good sign of a Great Team, is that when they Play Badly, they still manage to Win, after Officials reviewed the Plays.

[@rodneyscobell7065]

It was an ugly game. Both teams played like crap. But don’t blame the calls by the referees for your lousy play.

[@roywall8169]

Utah cut the video of Kyle’s temper tantrum during the post game from their KZbin coverage. It is easy to see why the team is in free fall. Their leaders are not doing their jobs at a high enough level. Acting like toddlers in the post game is not acceptable.

[@aBrewster29]

This in contrast with how professional the players were. 😂

[@genek2344]

I noticed, can't see the chair throwing at all anymore

[@dostacos1]

I thought Kyle kept his composure pretty well, even with the chair throw. But it’s pretty clear the entire Utah admin believes they’re too good for the Big XII and I think that attitude trickled down to the players, and I blame their terrible season on that more than anything.

[@eyelighter1]

Utah really stepped up and played well. The D Line especially was formidable. I thought BYU was going to be mowed down after a while. But somehow BYUs defense kicked in through the whole second half and held. BYU offense made plays and scored, to keep it close and nearly tied on a missed 2 point conversion. The holding call was legit; timing should never be the issue-if it’s a penalty, call it that way whether beginning or end. BYU still had to go 50 yards in a minute with only one timeout to get in field goal position and then get it through the uprights. But then I read the words next day from UT AD. He said the UT football team was “hurting” 😢 and that choked us up a little. It may have been the mellow sabbath music we were listening to at the time, but we hope UT can pull it together and give Colorado a challenge. There is an excellent group of wellness coaches at BYU offering their services without respect to persons. All the best utes.

[@laddlish]

@@eyelighter1 that had no timeouts left. They had used their last timeout on the play prior to the holding call… so even more amazing!

[@OSUex]

If Utah doesn't fire Harlan I'll be very disappointed

[@BracketCat]

I mean, he hasn’t been nearly as consistently embarrassing this season as the Gundy Show, so there’s that…

[@OSUex]

@@BracketCat Harlan and Gundy need to go back to school...maybe at BYU as grad assistants and they should be roommates

[@hootervilletexas]

Loved your commentary for this show John. Very entertaining.

[@joerossa1112]

The Refs calls were Justified. This outburst is more due to pent up frustration over a losing season. Penalties shouldn’t be called off just because one side is close to winning. That unfairly favors one side over another. Clearly the team that was supposed win did. BYU had a bad call against them and they played hard and kept pushing and won. Don’t want to lose? Then don’t get penalties in clutch moments. Be better! Both on the field and off. Come on Mark…

[@roywall8169]

I warned everyone about adding the Pac schools, because of the disarray and toxic baggage they brought with them. I was told it was an acceptable offset because of the money they brought in. This behavior from the leadership is exactly what you signed up for. You have now seen it first hand. Texas was the sore spot previously. You have traded straight across for a new Texas.

[@Snowboarder-ov2ss]

If you want to see Kyle Whittingham cry at the end of a game, watch the BYU Utah game from 2006. He pulls off his headset and wipes tears away from his eyes. Those were delicious tears for BYU fans. The Holy War has been a crazy rivalry for many years.

[@DaranTibbetts10721]

And to look back on the fact that Kyle applied to be BYU'S HCing job before Kalani got it. Sure glad that we've got Kalani, for sure. Kyle's a terrible rep for even his family. Hey Kyle, just go away, and teach your grandkids to act mature. Teach by example, and looks like we've got more of the same coming in the future, based on what just happened.

[@dougattridge4877]

@@Snowboarder-ov2ss did you see Lila I go over to shake whits hand and walked right by?

[@darrinworkman951]

@@DaranTibbetts10721 BYU BEGGED Whittingham to come home. He TURNED them down FLAT ! Then they hired ROSCOE Mendenhall

[@laddlish]

@@darrinworkman951 keep believing that… insiders know. Regardless, we have better than him as proven by our success this year when we weren’t supposed to be successful. Utah will be losing the recruiting battle after their complete meltdown this season, and BYU’s success. On the even recruiting front we have now Utah does not have a chance. Isaac will be gone soon. Enjoy!

[@darrinworkman951]

@@laddlish I think I will believe reported fact. Do you really believe that YbU wanted Mendenhall instead of Kyle Whittingham ?

[@TroyBrock-o7w]

Did we really think the football and basketball gods were going to allow Utah to join a liberal conference in the west, play blue bloods and treat their in-state brothers the way they did for years. Utah had their time in the sun and they didn't use their new found fame and fortune in a way common sense and decency expected. Now they can watch how a program treats others and acts with class with the same fortune. Winning this game will continue to turn the tide with top in-state recruits and best coaches who want to work for a man who respects and loves others. The power and goodness of BYU's brand is just being discovered by the Big12 and nationally. It will be difficult to stop.

[@Box4accounts1Zavala]

B.S. because BYU had a game changing Tempo from a Bad Call against BYU in the 1st Half, that was never "Reviewed," other than ESPN's Re-plays from 5 angles. Also, ALSO! the Utes were shut-down from Scoring entire 2nd Half!.

[@ChaplainGab]

"People make bad choices if they're mad, or scared, or stressed"

[@kaltech04]

As a tech fan, I don’t have a problem with McGuire calling out some bad officiating because there were some blatant calls (and non-calls) that went against us. But don’t use those calls as an excuse, and I don’t think McGuire was, because those few bad calls didn’t lose us the game. Colorado beat us. We had three turnovers, a foolish fake punt deep in our own territory that gifted CU a TD, and we had an opportunity to tie the game late but could punch it the end zone on 4th and short. The Butfs were the better team.

[@MichaelAndreaLiviEmi]

Listened to you for years now and I gotta say this is your best episode.

[@raidervision1971]

The officiating in the Colorado Texes Tech game was the worst I have ever seen. Most against Tech too

[@ajalmond]

What!? Did I just hear Harlan talk about his disgust of “professionalism” … literally as he is reacts like a 7th grade- level AD, More interesting is that IF final kickoff was returned by Utah , the TD would have been negated because of the flag on the field, what was the flag for ? Look carefully, it was because a non player from the UTAH sideline ran on the field DURING THE RETURN. Yep, it’s our “professional “ Harlan. Unbelievable. If that had happened, he would have to move far away from Utah and get full-time security to protect his family from crazy Utah fans.

[@rodneyclements7761]

If the referee can cause you to lose a game you didn’t play hard enough 0 points in the second half way to go utes

[@BruceWayne-n7k]

Harlan isn’t excited to be in the Big 12. He said “Give me a break” in a tweet in a reply to Dennis Dodd reported that the four corner schools from the PAC 12 were going to the Big 12. It carried over to to the fans too.

[@junglemoose2164]

Harlan resents being in the Big 12. He thinks that Utah should've got the invite to play in the B1G. I wonder how many Utah fans resent being in the truck stop conference.

[@GaryWilliams-o6r]

Whittingham has always had the philosophy of stretching the rules and FORCING the officials to have the courage to blow the whistle. This philosophy has won him many games, but it has been, and is still classless.

[@caleshtcincredibles]

KU and ASU played a very close seesaw game both are going to give BYU problems . The Cougs having to play ASU in Tempe has been tough task this year they are 5-0 at home . Trip up potential is high in Tempe .

[@bradlarsen9734]

Main thing is Utah thought they left BYU behind 10 years ago. Then they had to come crawling to the conference BYU was in, then they thought they would be the clear leader of the conference and move on to the Big 10 in a couple years. Then BYU takes their place in year one. Plus they are losing recruiting battles to BYU. This is just all that frustration coming out kicking and screaming. It’s pretty hilarious. BYU has always been the top draw in or out of Utah so this just really stings when they thought they had become the big dog and left BYU in the dust.

[@rockymtn1291]

Each team had 10 penalties for 67/90 Y/U. U had 3 turnovers Y had 0.

[@reagyreags__]

My cousin was told by an Utah fan at RES to “kys.” Kid is 13. BYU fans are not surprised by this behavior.

[@HolyWar2468]

I had mashed potatoes last night and I ran out of salt, but as luck would have it, Mark Harlan was my special dinner guest! I asked him to lean over my plate for a couple seconds and as he hadnt stopped crying, that's all it took! Deeeeeeelicious!!

[@MasterEgo]

This is how it’s going to be going forward unless there’s huge changes

[@RobertG1234]

I saw play a few times, UT should STFU and play cleaner football. That call is made 10x a year against UCF.

[@paulmills6189]

BYU Fan here, but BSU is underrated. Their only loss is to Oregon and it was very close. They were ranked 12th last week and now are ranked 13th. They should be higher.

[@JimWhite-c7q]

If the officials called all the byu holds on press coverage, then Utah scores at least twice in second half. Funny takes. I love the Utah hate. Keep it up, it’s the only reason I check in every once in awhile.

[@Mike-aka747]

Just a big fat LOL at Ute fans who say if Rising healthy, they’d be sitting 9-0 now. Football is a team game not one man.

[@daveduncan2748]

Not only is the ACC without an undefeated team, but their first place team's only loss is to the Big12's undefeated team.

[@vividpsychosis8222]

No. - Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. I’ll be here all week.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

John are you going to be attending any games outside of Kansas over the rest of the season?

[@workingla8]

Re: Canzano - yes, the teams that have lost games are better than the teams that haven't. Sure, especially playing a freaking MWC schedule...

[@dnuck318]

Huge Coug fan here and was yelling and going nuts when the field goal went through the uprights. Harlan and Whit look petty/childish. Also I live in the Northwest, Canzano has been wrong every single time during the realignment talk starting a couple of years ago.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Give Utah’s university lawyers for writing a statement with no apology

[@ReeverN21]

Spot-on analysis

[@elmergloo3259]

There’s no conspiracy, BYU is rarely this good and no one wants them to win besides the locals south of Salt Lake. Both BYU and Utah play very differently and/or better when they play each other. It’s no surprise tensions were high. As a long time BYU fan I know Utah’s main motivation to defeat BYU this year is to destroy BYU for living Utah’s dream season. (“If I can’t have it, no one can!” They had nothing to gain except bragging rights against locals if they won this game since their season record is what BYU’s record usually is. Utah wasn’t going anywhere big this year regardless of outcome. I always cheered for Utah when they were good for representing our state in the past. I’ve been okay losing many times to Utah in the holy war games since not only is it just a game, but because it’s very fun when we occasionally win since they go absolutely nuts. It’s almost as if they are ashamed beyond human comprehension to lose to BYU.

[@knightu1642]

Let's not blow this out of proportion. No one is going to even think of getting rid of Utah. That's ridiculous. Fining the AD is perfectly fine because you cannot go around blaming the refs and especially the Big 12. But that's one person or even a few. The majority of Utah fans were of course not happy but that's what competition is for. Let's go Big 12! Go UCF. Go Knights Charge On!!!

[@CharlesKim-ee8ie]

"Utah took advantage of a big break - Glasker apparently sacked Rose for a big loss, but officials flagged Glasker for a facemask penalty that didn’t appear to be legitimate - and quickly went 45 yards to become the first team all season to go up two scores on BYU." - Jay Drew

[@Lisa-wf1lf]

Utah fans began throwing stuff after the game. The cheer cheer coach for BYU was hit by a water bottle and lost consciousness. Police are trying to find who it was so they can be charged. That's not what competition is for.

[@roywall8169]

Many of us were not excited to have Utah (or any Pac12 schools) in the conference. They burned the pac to the ground, and this kind of behavior is exactly what we warned everyone about. Booting them out would not be a terrible thing.

[@Chewbacca71]

Wow! Utah needs to clean house! Goodbye Coach Whit ! Goodbye to your crazy AD! How embarrassing!😂😂😂 Go Blue!

[@susanchurch3974]

I watched for 40 minutes and never saw the replay of the hold

[@janson301]

thats my dude Doc Holiday!!! love that guy, he’s a great BYU fan!!

[@Machtyn]

Miami's loss certainly hurt ACC's chances. UofL was almost a spoiler, having only lost by a TD to Miami. But they, UofL, definitely spoiled Clemson. BYU definitely had a complaint about a phantom facemask which lead to a Utah touchdown, they changed the dynamic of the rest of the game. Same as the soft holding call against Utah.

[@raidervision1971]

The Bad calls came at critical times duing the game that could have changed the outcome

[@michelleweintraub945]

The hold penalty, whether it was or wasn’t a penalty, didn’t cost Utah the game. They didn’t stop them after the penalty because BYU still needed to move the ball downfield to get into field goal range and Utah didn’t stop them from gaining those yards. Also Utah should have scored points in the second half of the game and not have put themselves in that situation. Utah has no right to complain and blame the Big 12. Utah is just embarrassed because they thought they were elite and they were going to own the Big 12 and that didn’t happen. Utah needs to realize that they are not better than any of the other Big 12 teams and they need to be thankful that they were given the invite to join this conference, otherwise go back to the PAC 12.

[@daveduncan2748]

In the games against OSU and Utah, BYU overcame 99.9% chance of loss in the final 2 minutes of both games. That's literally a cumulative 1 in a million odds. Team of destiny? We'll see...

[@CodeMonkey76]

Mark Harlan was unprofessional, plain and simple. He had no business making his way to the microphone and using his position to give what was essentially a fan reaction. It's one thing if a coach says something in the heat of the moment when they are expected to talk to the press right after the game ends. No one expects the AD to be in front of the mic after every game.

[@schmoab]

Remember the pick play Tulane ran against K-State? Everyone wants to interpret the rules to suit their own narrative. Utah is getting their magic hineys spanked and they aren’t taking it well.

[@laurashields1150]

I so happy my COUGS won, and I love my family,my cat and that my life can go on.

[@sarahmccoy1941]

A great weekend of Big XII football? A contradiction is terms. Poor officiating in the Big XII football has long been a problem. It was one of the reasons that A&M and Mizzou fled to the SEC.

[@SB-ju8ki]

The U coach and AD should re-review the various angles of “the call” and be objective! Then, come out publicly and admit it was a legit call…then, offer an apology! It would go a long way to smooth the waters and show some serious CLASS! Utah has always had a very unhealthy reputation…time to reverse course!

[@m3po22]

So actually when you score 3 points at the end it's worth more than 7 points earlier. That's just how it works.

[@gruntledboi]

This is why this is one of the best rivalries in college sports....because our fanbases are constantly at each other's throats 😂 you won't find passion like this in many other places

[@Phantomofosaka]

I'm sure the BIG10 will want Utah now!

[@abstractmilk2]

Thank You for breaking down the facemask call as well….wait what facemask?? There was a facemask call? Wait it led to Utah touchdown. Because Utah executed plays after the no facemask call. Then BYU executed after a legit defensive holding call and won the game. Imagine that???

[@pharman4001]

To me it's not whether if this is holding or not, it's "how have they been calling this all game". If they have been letting it go, they should have never called it. If they have been calling a tight game, you throw the flag.

[@tomlarson5388]

How DARE the refs be criticized?

[@wasatchm]

i just feel bad utah didn't start rose as QB until now. I mean i feel bad for the players. the utah coaches have made plenty of mistakes hurting the team's ability to win this season. playing rising when he was injured costed them a game. playing wilson as qb instead of rose probably costed them one or two wins. pretty poor coaching decisions made this year. why would they not go with ROSE instead of WILSON as QB when the utah offensive line is their clear weakness. having a QB that can run would negate some of that weakness.

[@bentheo]

BYU would definitely beat Boise State. Big 12 is a step up, as Utah found out this year.

[@byuftbl]

An hour and a half on this??? I can tell you the answer. It’s no. Utah just mad because they got caught holding a reciever that was burning their db. If they actually just wouldn’t have held him, he might not have caught the ball and it would’ve likely been over. They mad because BYU methodically moved the ball down the field to get in perfect FG position. Utah just needs to stop whining and realize they let that game slip. They couldn’t score in the second half cause our defense easily adjusted to their offense.

[@drew7155]

Nah. Objectively, BYU QB was getting sacked on 4th down. It should've been game over. And btw my team is Texas, I couldn't care less who wins

[@laddlish]

@@drew7155 you’re full of it. That was a hold and was called immediately.

[@BracketCat]

I mean, John did talk about other Big 12 games too lol

[@ralphjenkinsak]

You want to pick through bogus calls that affected the game look no further than the bogus/phantom facemask call that negated a drive killing sack in the 2nd quarter and extended a drive for Utah that resulted in a TD. Get that call right and Utah doesn’t get that TD and the final outcome of the game is fundamentally different, the hold call at the end is inconsequential.

[@brianfrandsen6374]

Didn’t Utah get the ball 3 times around the fifty yard line in the fourth quarter too?

[@chrispett7852]

They definitely stole a win from Utah. Byu got 6 tries to get 1st down. I'm not a BYU fan or a Utah fan but I watched the game and was astounded by how unfair that last drive was. It reminded me of Chiefs games and the one sided officiating.

[@jasonkeuma1986]

You mean where byu coach called timeout before the snap? You mean the three normal down? You mean the holding penalty? I only count 5 tries, all legitimate.

[@drew7155]

Does he never play the press conference?

[@campbellcampbell9059]

The refs in the Big12 are incredibly bad. Signed not an Utah fan. Starting to worry with the rise of on-line gambling that Vegas’ tentacles have captured professional and collegiate sports. Really, a few well timed calls really changes the outcome of games

[@bitfenix90]

Solution: score enough points so ONE PLAY or ONE CALL doesn't make a difference. Refuse to do that and suffer whatever fate occurs... score more points! Call better plays! Develop better player skills. Waste time doing THAT instead of whining for the next diaper change.

[@randycrownover5580]

It would seem the B12 has created a new boogie-man. Go for it.

[@DanyelleStewart]

Let's conveniently forget about the B.S. Facemask call & very questionable roughing the passer call in the first half that set up a T.D. for the Utes before halftime. A HOLD is a HOLD. Whether it is on play 1 or play 101 - It was a HOLD - Maybe STOP raping receivers & you will not be called for holding. You still gave up a 95-Yard TD drive beforehand & allowed BYU to go downfield on you after you HELD & got called for it.

[@gilt9967]

-- neither team (BYU or Utah) could beat any one in the top 10 --

[@JetAnders]

Easy for Boise to pad stats in the Mountain West

[@mmaddox1787]

But really...the boosters are going to pay the fine, whether its $40,000 or $40,000,000 - a better penalty would be to do something like ban the AD from the next 3 games.

[@alextemus]

That wasn't the most egregious holding penalty I've ever seen, but it was still a clear penalty. It didn't guarantee the game, BYU still had to drive the field. The only honest way to look at it is BYU got shafted by the refs in this game and the only reason Utah even had a chance to be close was because Utah needed momentum desparately and the refs gave it to them in the form of throwing out a 10 yard sack and giving a 15 yard facemask, followed by a really soft roughing the passer.

[@jeddrichards9601]

Byu fan here. I question alot of play calls in the game. 1st and goal from the 5 ends in a fg. A second and 1 ends in turnover on downs c mon man!! Pass attempt 4 times sheeze

[@davidwelker6499]

John, do you still think its just a few bad eggs?

[@emjm9383]

not a byu or utah fan, but the QB's first read was clearly held (his shoulders turned and head dipped down). shut up, utah- all y'all.

[@tedguildner-np7jy]

Why/how is it a coach and AD can hold jobs acting that way??

[@foxmccloud5526]

Robert Mark Harlan 950,000.08 a year 40k slap on the wrist

[@gbuddy]

How can a call of an obvious penalty be considered the refs stealing it for BYU. IT WAS A PENALTY AND THEY CALLED IT RIGHT. Ignoring a penalty and allowing Utah to win because of a no-call, that would be stealing it! It's not the ref's fault that Utah is a bunch of whiners.

[@jasonkeuma1986]

It wasn’t stolen. The bad call timing really hurt Utah for 10 yards. The phantom face mask cost byu 25 yards. But, Utah not stoping BYU FOR the next 50 yards is their own fault.

[@jimschubach1376]

Good on byu...they are terrific and the so are the utes...leave the kids alone.

[@BucketT-i1u]

The college football world is taking note and laughing at the arrogant , temper tantrum, can’t win a football game Utes. If championships were handed out by arrogance and expectations to be crowned a champion. Then the Utes are the champions of that make believe league.

[@evenimaseuli2891]

BYU is the best team in the big 12 conference Colorado. It’s a second team the rest of them bottom

[@ervinjd]

Marine corps Birthday John,November 10th

[@Masteroogway40]

Why did utah leave the Pac 12?

[@buckeroomcbob2067]

Game stolen. PERIOD

[@jeddrichards9601]

If utah would have had any kind of offense we would have been destroyed!!

[@naujelbr]

Like if you turn off Kurtz for cat videos.