Johnny Joestar VS Gojo Satoru| In-Depth Analysis

[@MRForca]

Go watch my newest video. Jotaro vs giorno!!!!!

[@kanenanbarriner885]

Johnny dies horribly

[@nicolasleal5644]

​@@kanenanbarriner885gojo dies tragically.

[@kanenanbarriner885]

@@nicolasleal5644 if Gojo just stands there and let's Johnny shoot him, then yeah he dies, but, if he moves around throwing hollow purples, attract, etc. Then Johnny loses. Gojo just has to make sure he destroys his horse and make sure that Johnny can't gather any horse power

[@nicolasleal5644]

@@kanenanbarriner885 Johnny doesn't need a horsez he can walk by the end of part 7 and summon tusk and use infinite rotation without the horse.

[@nicolasleal5644]

Also the infinite rotation infinitely tracks him and will infinitely pursue him even if Johnny dies and Johnny can hide in his infinite rotation that harms people that try to follow him. He can also just shoot from his hole while he is ln the infinite rotation transportation that he uses. Also even if he shoots hollow purple, it can't make any progress toward Johnny because he would fire infinite rotation at it and it would stop in place consuming the infinite matter made by the rotation. Gojos screwed bro, in sorry it just is. It's not like gojo can hurt Johnny without tusk automatically defending him and touching gojo in the process passing infinite rotation onto him making gojo lose. No melee he does will work and no ranged he does will work. Tusk moves on its own to protect the user so if he is stuck in his domain expansion tusk would deal with the threat without problem itself. Basically anything gojo does is completely foiled by the property labor infinite rotation.

[@woahbuncherz]

Gojo when tusk rips open his infinity and beats him to a bloody pulp:

[@Zoozky]

explain how tusk does that

[@xenvosity]

raw strength buddy. Just read the Johnny vs Valentine fight@@Zoozky

[@PrimeEdits179]

@@Zoozky infinite rotation

[@kanenanbarriner885]

@@Zoozky if Johnny sits on his horse and shoots his nail bullets, then he generates a golden rectangle that gives him an infinite rotation with his nail bullets. We know this can bypass infinity because Valentine had a better barrier, and Tusk ripped it open and beat the shit out of Valentine

[@nicolasleal5644]

@@kanenanbarriner885 he doesn't even need the horse anymore, your low balling Johnny.

[@arkkon2740]

No lie, I feel like you can argue that act 2 tusk can beat Gojo given that he already has access to a non-euclidean ability; basically it mathematically doesn't make sense. If an act 2 wormhole ever got to the infinity wall, it would either bypass it or just drill through and still make contact. Act 3 is an evolution of that since barebones physical contact is enough to deal damage and not just damage to the heart, not to mention that he has direct control of it now. I'd say act 4 isn't needed because Love Train and Infinity are fundamentally different. With valentine you have to go through a nigh infinite amount of space over a nigh infinite number of spacial barriers. With Gojo its one barrier over a finite difference, the only thing stopping people is space folding on itself, but act 2 and 3 seemingly negates the effects of space and distance.

[@MRForca]

I agree but there is still the speed difference

[@people2chronically-online]

Gojo faster than Johnnys horse tho

[@IPYJ_GD]

@@people2chronically-online and johnny is faster than gojo. even if the horse dies, he can literally just spin it with a ball to access his power (literally how he got tusk act 4 in the first place). what is your point?

[@sonnguyen7204]

@@people2chronically-online isn't jhonny can hide in worm hole and be unharm and be undetected?

[@people2chronically-online]

@@sonnguyen7204 he’s also, slow

[@Shad3-]

In the end Johnny would win. Tusk act 4 can overcome any sort of barrier and assuming infinity is just infinte 3D space between him and his opponents, Johnny would easily surpass this due to infinte energy.

[@lazyvoid7107]

Also if my theory is correct Tusk act 4 can break in Gojo bubble

[@rihalleo9229]

Unfortunately, Gojo run faster than a horse!

[@Dragon_named]

@@rihalleo9229have you seen how fast a flipping horse is

[@rihalleo9229]

@@Dragon_named yes but phirst of all Johnny's horse would be slower than a regular horse since today's horses have benifited from centuries of selective breeding, and second, Gojo is really fast.

[@X_2ksavage-sw3nq]

Gojos infinity isn’t a barrier it’s space and time

[@Whooooisthis]

You cant beat someone blessed by Jesus Christ himself..

[@quandaviosdaniel8078]

fr

[@Nivilton_Plays]

Yes jesus Christ did appear behind Johnny

[@Mond3e]

Mah savior jesus Christ coming in clutch

[@iceindaskyuwu9040]

Don't shoot if your heart weavers

[@leafvulture77]

Dayum fr fr

[@spacecrabthatshootslasers5224]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby 😭😭😭😭😭💀

[@revolutionaryhd-zt5yb]

Sun vs 1 billion lion

[@Xeinorn]

@@spacecrabthatshootslasers5224 otherway around because gojo slams

[@StummyTicklePickle]

@@Xeinorn no he doesnt lol. Read jjba before commenting

[@Xeinorn]

@@StummyTicklePickle I already read jjba SBR Johnny doesn't stand a chance to beat gojo

[@StummyTicklePickle]

@@Xeinorn explain

[@MunchyMochi621]

Gojo when Tusk opens Infinity like a bag of chips:

[@Vetadelta3892]

Nah, im done

[@Sillygumbal123]

Johnny only needs one hit to kill gojo, due to tusks infinite rotation, and it may outspeed gojo, with infinity being irrelevant because of how tusk works, so johnny would probably win, assuming he has his horse with him to activate act 4.

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

In Part 8 we see Johnny managed to use Spin to get his legs back, and it's implied just running in a certain way is enough to trigger the Golden Spin

[@luanlinhares1707]

He doesnt need his horse to activate tusk act 4,he needed it to awaken it. In part 8 johnny is seen walking(by holding a steel ball and using the spin to walk) and using tusk normally,he even uses it to kill himself

[@danielgeronimo5538]

People sleep a lot on Tusk Act 3. Which hides Johnny in a separate space from the main dimension. Meaning theoretically he can't be affected by anything happening from the outside. It's not as overpowered as say, Tusk Act 4 or Ballbreaker even, but its defensive capabilities is a massive plus against someone who can render a regular person unresponsive with their presence alone. Also it bypasses speed quite efficiently because Johnny can just Spot his way in and out of certain situations.

[@Sillygumbal123]

@@danielgeronimo5538 Act 3 was absolutely goated and increases johnny's ability to manuever by a huge margin, im just not sure if it could bypass infinity. Act 3 100% helps out with the speed and defensive situation for sure though, seeing as he can't be hit by anything while inside the hole

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

Unlimited void hits Johnny first 10/10 times. Get Tusk act 4 past Diego's fangirls first

[@mamabriel]

Tusk ACT 4 overpowered Alternate Diego's Time Stop because the infinite spin controls gravity, so that it ignores any and all adversities, if Infinity tries to slow it down, Tusk will just go on, just like he kept going on even when time was stopped

[@MRForca]

indeed

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

Did he overpower diego's fangirls though 🤣🤣🤣

[@Quwucuqin]

​@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 they are 12 dimensional tusk cant lol

[@nicolasmiranda1598]

​@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 not even infinite energy can do that

[@succanighadicc]

gojo watching tusk act 4 ripping his domain open like a bag of doritos:

[@MRForca]

lmao

[@Boltychad]

Pink fridge appears*

[@MRForca]

lmao

[@xogleeztastexd583]

Imagine fighting a pink fridge

[@mangofloutlover]

​@@xogleeztastexd583and got your ass whooped

[@abounded_j5557]

all we gotta analyze is the bs bypass of ALL spinning things in ANY jojo part

[@MarioCashy]

i would like an In-Depth analysis of d4c love train vs Wonder of u this is something i try to debate with friends but we always come back to the conclusion of one of us picking the other wins

[@MRForca]

If you subb ill start the script right now. I do have 2 videos being edited currently though so you're gonna have to wait a couple of days...

[@MarioCashy]

@@MRForca i subbed before i commented lol

[@MRForca]

@@MarioCashy W mans

[@georgegobin1839]

​@@MRForca From A Power Scaleing Perspective Wonder Of U should win in my opinion!😅

[@nicolasleal5644]

​@@georgegobin1839 I don't know, as a stand its stats suck but it's ability carrys it. But love train diverts all bad things against the user going as far to split a portion of the sea for valentine. In a stand v stand valentine wins and any calamity will be diverted to someone else. Even if a calamity hit valentine, it would have to be a instant death which would be hard to achieve since its random and doesn't always one shot the pursuer. Basically valentine just walks toward him until he is inside his barrier and fucks him up. Wait valentine can travel throughout his barrier to so he doesn't even need to walk. If he makes two wonder if u's I wonder what will happen to them both.

[@Azreal2077]

Gojo riders when Tusk act 4 opens infinity like a soda can .

[@sapphicjade6375]

johnny riders when gojo blinks in his direction:

[@I2Always3Have4good5takes]

​@@sapphicjade6375 He ain't gonna let you hit lil bro🙏

[@vladsoloshchenko5551]

Johnny riders when ryoki tenkai:

[@mercifall]

cripple with spinning balls, an awesome horse and a pink alien lookin ass spirit vs white guy with blue eyes and space around him that slows down objects that are meant to harm him who would win

[@aarcadeee]

testicular torsion solos

[@VurseFilm]

Wet bubble sailor solos

[@eggroll3055]

Silly Fingernails > Hollow Purple

[@mangofloutlover]

Crippled man blessed by Jesus slams the guy with blue eyes

[@revolutionaryhd-zt5yb]

TUSK SPIN HIS BALLS

[@diotheworld3444]

I think its ok to Compare Diego's TW To Part 3 Dio's TW since they are still pretty much the same person

[@franksarria9693]

yeah, and the fact that araki literally made it a parallel to part 3 so the narrative implications would agree with that notion

[@Opana223]

Well dio is a vampire while dio is not

[@diotheworld3444]

@@Opana223 Yeah but that doesnt change the Stands since if that were true Star Platinum would be weaker than the world wich is not the case

[@khadizaanwarjolly5779]

@@Opana223 Diego is more likely to win as dio lost to star platinum while diego won against one of the strongest stands in jojo

[@Opana223]

@@khadizaanwarjolly5779 He did know the secret to defeating tusk act 4 from valentine while jotaro had a decent amount of plot armor while fighting dio part 3

[@Domab.]

its a debate of unstoppable force meets immovable object when it comes to gojo's defences, but the thing is that gojo also has the attack potency to oneshot johnny without much trouble

[@MRForca]

In a sense yeah

[@terrorsDomain]

Same As Johhny With TA4 But Again He Needs To Get That First Edit: I Misread

[@kermitcutely5488]

Wouldn't happen Johnny would either 1 shot gojo with a nail or block with infinite force and transfer the infinite spin to gojo and 1 shot him again

[@luanlinhares1707]

The difference is that tusk act 4 attacks are targeted,so even if gojo runs,the attack ll still follow and hit him no matter what

[@Meeeeeeepppp]

This “unstoppable force meets immovable object” can’t be applied here tho. Johnny literally fought a villain who has a better infinity. Since Gojo’s Infinity works as potential infinity, meaning it can potentially infinitely divide the space between him and whatever is attacking him. This dividing ability accelerates the closer the attacker gets, slowing the attack so much it looks like a halt. But FV already has an infinite amount of spatial barriers. He’s not dividing space, it’s just “that.” It’s already infinite. It’s absolute infinity verses Gojo’s potential infinity. And Tusk Act 4 ripped it open with ease. So no this isn’t a case of unstoppable force meets immovable object. Tusk act 4 negates infinity.

[@georgegobin1839]

It's About Time!😎

[@MRForca]

A subb?

[@georgegobin1839]

No....I'm the guy who asked for this vid Remember?😅 I haven't actually watched it yet because I just got off work but I can't wait to see it!😄

[@MRForca]

@@georgegobin1839 Yeah i remember. I was just asking.... a subb worthy? :)

[@georgegobin1839]

@@MRForca Yeah I Already Sub!😉👍

[@georgegobin1839]

​@@MRForca Uhhhh can you do a Wonder Of U vs Makima vid in the future.... just for fun!😅👍

[@fono3657]

Basically the green baby Vs Johnny

[@MRForca]

In a way, yeah you're right. But then again it comes down to strength tbh

[@deadwrong283]

Gojo: Carried by genetics Johnny: Carried by Jesus Crist himself. Johnny absolutely mops the floor with gojo

[@nottheavatar]

Gojo watching in abject horror as the pink fridge cracks Infinity open like a bag of Lays:

[@Aletheavian]

I feel like it’s a tie as long as Johnny fires act 4 atleast once, if he does then Gojo loses due to tusk act 4 being infinite and never going away until it’s hit its target

[@waffl_00]

crippled guy with invisible pink fridge vs vertical kitkat with huge purple balls

[@MRForca]

@@waffl_00 😭😭😭

[@JayJay-u7z4p]

Well expanded my friend🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Hellsingdonut]

😂😂

[@carltasticdrew9633]

Next is Makima vs Funny Valentine isn’t/is close than you think??

[@nicolasleal5644]

Well first, makima just poofs out of existence because she doesn't have intention to kill herself obviously and them converging via valentines ability is just a force of nature not a attack. And what is makima going to do against love train and wouldn't love train counter the effects of her death being transferred to another person since its unfavorable to valentine.

[@feedmesomeseeds6172]

​@nicolasleal5644 Well Love Train's effect is basically the same as Makima's so if Makima can deflect the misfortune deflected from love train. It would just be an endless standoff. Valentine wins no cap

[@monkeman142]

(im very late to this vid but im going to put my opinion here anyway) i think tusk act 4 is the one chasing funny valentine through those dimensions because tusk act 4 is imbued with the infinite spin (we can see this in chapter 94 where Diego has to cut off his leg) which puts him far above gojo in speed, this feat also applies to the infinite rotation bullet because the bullet is imbued with tusk act 4

[@themusicalgamer9450]

Act 4’s bullet attacks a certain point in space, meaning he can choose the space that gojo is occupying

[@needledealer9971]

Even without any part 3 speed feat shenanigans. Tusk moves in stopped time which should put it at FTL.

[@Xeinorn]

Learn how speed scaling works☠️

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

@@Xeinorn ah yes, he has infinite speed now. Your choice

[@Xeinorn]

@@isaacphangyunjierosythsch if you're trying to argue that having infinite energy would grant him infinite speed than how come the bullets be blocked by SOUND itself by sandman

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

@@Xeinorn the problem is that the infinite energy cana nd has been shpown to break through anything, physical or not. Not even time, gravity, space, dimensions or the multievrse can stop it

[@Xeinorn]

@@isaacphangyunjierosythsch that's just false equivalent it's a form of gravity manipulation and LT is not a multiverse it's just a gateway of many worlds and also the bullets were clearly shown to be effective against Diego's time stop for a second time lol

[@springus3887]

Coughing baby(Gojo) vs Hydrogen Bomb(Johnny Joestar)

[@TheArufukun]

Gojo: "Domain expansion: Unlimited Void" Tusk Act 4: "That's not very chumimin of you bro. Anyways. *rips the domain like a tissue paper*"

[@i_eat_tea]

imagine losing a nail shot

[@gojoiamyou4863]

everyone is jojo fans until they forgot that Araki says stand user and their stand are one if one of them die the other one will die too

[@JayJay-u7z4p]

No shit sherlock....and Everyone *was* a JJK fan until they forgot the Author Hated gojo so much he not only sealed him off but made him die in the most shitty way possible.

[@MaxChip101]

I don't know the extent to six eyes but only stand users can see stands

[@Mrstireast]

Six eyes just increases your ce reserves by a BUNCH. not a lot of hax though

[@vaso8120]

Gojo would see stands indirectly, six eyes allow him to see the flow of curse energy so when a stand appears there will be a black point without curse energy and Gojo will be able to see that theres something in humanoid shape that he cant see (idk if i explained right, english isnt my first lenguaje)

[@MaxChip101]

I don't think it really matters though because stands travel between light speed and faster than light, and from the video's I've seen, the maximum speed that someone has reached in jjk was probably like mach 10 (tell me if I'm wrong), also I'm pretty sure gojo cannot dodge an auto tracking bullet (tell me what other things I've missed), but yeah that's pretty much what I think so far.

[@Dyras.]

I'll leave my 2 cents here that jhonny can surpass infinity pretty easily , as his infinity is just dividing space around him into smaller and smaller like 1/2+1/4+1/8.........1/n But tusk act 4 deals infinite damage which can also be written in gojos terms as 2+4+8+16.......n Thus the goal of reaching from 0 to 1 in gojo inf can be done by tusk

[@Georgefloydthesneedster]

1:09 huh💀💀💀? Most jojo fans think hes maybe top 3 depending on if you scale him higher than made in heaven and ger

[@Mrstireast]

Soft and wet go beyond is easily the strongest but no one ever talks about it for some reason😔

[@Georgefloydthesneedster]

​@@Mrstireastnot really. He has the highest ap together with wonder of u(the actual strongest stand), but he simply has not enough to compete with others. For example, he could absolutely beat stands like d4clt, sp, ger or king crimson because the bubble would just ingore their abilities, but josuke would be dead before he could get them since he cant control the bubble

[@vittoriovenetov9655]

@@Georgefloydthesneedster it just depends on the situation if its the strongest ability or not

[@valious420]

Does soft and wet go beyond counter wou since its basiccaly non existen or no logic​@@Georgefloydthesneedster

[@Poguget]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[@ShiningStarStell]

Gojo watching in horror as a cripple tanks all his attacks and proceeds to break through infinity

[@sapphicjade6375]

pure delusion

[@raiguy89]

Tusk goes through infinity but Gojo can literally just move before it touches him

[@JayJay-u7z4p]

Don't forget about the Wormholes and that the nails have aimbot, plus even tho gojo can move before he touches him, what the hell is gojo gonna do after? cuz if he gets hit with a barrage he is dead, simple as that.

[@Imraanhere]

This is an accurate representation of what would happen Gojo: *uses infinity* Tusk: *rips open infinity and beats the everlasting hell out of gojo*

[@iceindaskyuwu9040]

But johnny could walk at the end tho... So basically walk vs walk

[@MrBigBasket]

Realistically to me I can see johnny only winning under very specific circumstances. If both are aware of each others abilities then gojo would just kill Johnny very easily with one of his techniques before johnny can pick up enough speed with his horse to use the infinite rotation. If johnny uses act 3 to hide he wouldnt be able to use the infinite rotation without his horse which basically makes him lose cuz no way he is winning without it. If act 2 ignores infinity which *might* be possible gojo woul just heal instantly with rct or even just float. I dont remmber if the hole can travel through air or not so it seemed like a reasonable counter. But even then he can just teleport away. The chances of johnny getting to use act 4 is very low unless gojo is a fckin idiot. Im willing to bet that gojo is faster than johnnys bullets so most of these scenarios seem possible for me but if thats not th case it could go either way.

[@MrBigBasket]

If both aren't aware of each others abilities it's up to wether gojo will use DE first. Or kick Johnny off the fucking horse.

[@subhadrakunwar8022]

⁠@@MrBigBasketmake em both blood lusted for it to be equal and gojo slams

[@blackandmode]

@@subhadrakunwar8022 bro is still meat riding gojo

[@subhadrakunwar8022]

@@blackandmode L

[@blackandmode]

@@subhadrakunwar8022 womp womp meat rider

[@dangsonpcb]

The whole fight is basically like this Gojo: I have a shield Johnny: I have a spear that can pierce through your shield Gojo: Well then my shield is indestructible Johnny: I have a spear that can pierce through your indestructible shield

[@LolfishesHD]

How you gonna deal with his rct, domain, one shot kill once you pass infinity though?

[@Kalavani-vz2cz]

​@@LolfishesHDfirst of all once the infinite rotation is transferred to you from being hit by the nail every individual cell in your body starts to rotate not even switching bodies is going to stop the rotation the only way to stop it is the same rotation from the opposite side so they cancel each other out rct is almost useless and will probably just increase the time that it takes for him to die from the the rotation and gojo is not going to start out with his domain

[@bandzxz9378]

when is your updated tetsuo scale releasing?

[@MRForca]

Writing the script right now

[@bandzxz9378]

@@MRForca you got disc? Would like to discuss his scaling

[@MRForca]

@@bandzxz9378 link in bio or the description

[@pretro6136]

speed differences? stands are already invisible. so tusk act 4 isn't even close, since gojo can't even know where is tusk, and tusk can hit gojo like normal (and using the wormhole, johnny can hide anywhere while leaving tusk to fight gojo). it's not even close, since you just placed gojo in a fight against an invisible object that is immune to infinity

[@ZenithSpecter]

let's just say stands here work like cursed spirit in jjk

[@Mrstireast]

@@ZenithSpecterverse equalization sucks because it’s only done to give the favored character an advantage. I just like the raw fight

[@vaso8120]

Gojo actually can see stands without actually see them, he would see the lack of curse energy in a humanoid shape where the stand is

[@pretro6136]

@@vaso8120 i dont think thats how six eyes works

[@AdamThomas-vf4op]

​@@Mrstireastagreed

[@atTran-ng1df]

did you all just forgot that johny have aimbot and his golden rectangle is inf so its like homing missile that cant be stopped?

[@diegobrando5251]

NAH, I'D SPIN.

[@EverettMay-wu3vg]

I think that regardless if Johnny can pass through infinity, he’s not touching gojo and will prob just get obliterated by gojos ranged attacks

[@NectarNapper]

The thing is that both of them have one shot abilities

[@sapphicjade6375]

gojo wins because he can use Red without lifting any fingers as seen by what he did to the curse user during the kyoto arc all he has to do is look at johnny really hard and it's curtains

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

unless you're telling me gojo can attack between dimensions, tusk act 3 + 4 literally negs

[@criticalted1764]

ok jaq I'm about to blow your mind, recent chapters say that gojo's domain isn't a dimension put a space seperated from the earth itself. thus rendering tusk act 4's bypass broken. meaning gojo literally rips johnnys head off no diff :/

[@zhitezeff2239]

Don't mess with us, jjk fans. We literally didn't read anything other than our manga and lack of common sense

[@nothugo9207]

@@zhitezeff2239 I've read both part 7 and jjk and loved them both and I can say without a doubt Gojo wins this. Johnny legit couldn't even beat Diego

[@zhitezeff2239]

@@nothugo9207 that's when he still not unlock tusk act 4 and master his golden rotation yet. And he used it to defeat Valentine which is the person who killed diego

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

@@zhitezeff2239 he prob means high voltage diego with prep time

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

domain just gives you control over a certain amount of space. that shit is not stopping tusk act 4. he literally goes through, time, space, gravity and dimensions to hit its target

[@june3149]

Gojo wouldn't even be able to see Tusk 😭 Bro will literally only see Johny hit a goofy pose

[@Nivilton_Plays]

I forgot non stand users can't see stand but he can sense tusk right?

[@june3149]

@@Nivilton_Plays different ytbers/people has differing opinions on this but at the least he can probably sense tusk. some say that to level the playing field, other characters with spiritual powers and energy powers(similar to hamon)should be able to see Stands (this includes overly "physical" killing intent, DBZ style energy/aura, etc..)

[@Mr.Crreammaa]

No becuase stands dont have mass and gojo needs mass to do infinity and to sense ​@Nivilton_Plays

[@JayJay-u7z4p]

Exactly why arguing with kids about their favorite anime characters to fight a JoJo character is so fun, All they will see is the users looking fabulous and ass they ass proceed to be six feet under.

[@AmrMoussa-r9g]

Music?

[@saltsaltius9831]

Reasons why Jonny would win: he has tusk, quite possibly one of the most powerful stands of all time second only to hold experience requiem, the world over heaven and starplatnum (because it’s the same type of stand) Reasons why gojo would win: he can stand up for himself Edit: stop arguing in my shitpost

[@sbenhaba]

we shall not include part 8 in this

[@nicolasleal5644]

Johnny can also stand after tusk act 4 tho.

[@subhadrakunwar8022]

Reasons why gojo would win Ta4 takes time to even shoot and gojo would blitz him before he could even shoot it Ta3 bro can just tp or float in the air Ta2 might work but rct exists Gojo outscales Johnny in speed iq healing whatever

[@almaredfern9850]

​@@subhadrakunwar8022 bro why do you guys who tries to prove that gojo slams always need to nerf the other that's crazy, first ta4 doesn't need to be fire with the bullet to be deployed he can be summon by Johnny in close range if gojo do tp to him, but also another thing is that stand can also work independent to the user since its only goal is to protect the user an example of that could be star platinum stopping a bullet with jotaro not being fast enough but star platinum is, so based on this and that tusk acts 4 has infinite speed strength and everything and can bypass anything even matter because of the rotation which is infinite he slams gojo, and even if Johnny gets unlucky or makes a wrong moves and somehow gets killed, tusk doesn't go away either, it will trace him since it is the literal manifestation of the golden rotation he's infinite, but you may argue that it will take time for him to use tusk act 4 since it needs the infinite rotation, well yeah and so if each doesn't know their ability gojo is cooked like a bbq on a summer beach he wouldn't know Johnny's ability and just wonder why he's running away, Johnny just need the horse to run a little just a little for the rotation to manifest in tusk and that's just all that it needs, and if they do know their ability then the horse just need to run then Johnny just gotta use act 3 shoots himself directly enters a wormhole then else moves somewhere else where he has time to use the infinite rotation with his horse or he just shoots him from somewhere and that's it gojo can't stop the infinite rotation and if he shoots huge amount of them its gonna be hard for him to tp or float every time since, he still consumes energy for this crap to happen while Johnny becomes intangible and lets not forget that even if he's in the air he just vulnerable to being shoot directly anyway, and I doubt that Johnny is dumb he is very smart which was shown across the manga so yeah gojo is just cooked either way. note. also it is unclear whether tusk act 4 need a horse or not because of the ending of part 7 where we see Johnny use him on a boat without a horse so else its the form without the infinite rotation or with the infinite rotation could depend or he uses the steel ball, heck maybe he can also store the infinite rotation if he trained after the end battle who knows.

[@subhadrakunwar8022]

@@almaredfern9850 “gojo is cooked because in this hyper specific situation where both characters don’t know each other and only johhny is trying to kill gojo he will win!” So johhny gonna run away in a 1v1 and gojos not giving chance aside from that ta4 doesn’t exist after death read part 8 johhny literally dies and ta4 is still gone the power of the rotation if shot exists if u read part 8 some leaves have the power when johhny off’s himself but we never see ta4 itself only the aftermath of the spin it launched

[@wet_concrete]

Gojo watching a pink fridge rip open infinity:

[@CrunchyIcy]

They cooking you in twitter

[@MRForca]

@@CrunchyIcy where?

[@willromez]

Johnny can win if he immediately uses tusk act 3 on himself, people hype up act 4 too much forgetting the fact that it's still possible to ourun it with something faster than a horse so it's essentially countered by gojo's infinity, since inifinity is not a wall act 4 can just punch through, it just creates space inbetween gojo and it's target that's it Act 3 is the one that can actually bypass gojo's infinity, johnny can just use it on himself so he could go inside his pocket dimension then just create wormholes right next to gojo completely ignoring infinity and then just shoot him then get back to his wormhole, at best johnny gets his hands fucked up but he still wins If johnny tries to rely on act 4 on the other hand then it just ends in a draw with both of them dying since valentine managed to live for a while after getting hit by act 4 so it's possible for gojo to hit johnny with purple before he completely succumbs to act 4

[@bopll3996]

neutron star vs dust ahh debate😭

[@naamaneadem894]

bro gojo will watch johnny open infinity like a soda cane

[@watersluggers7413]

Gojo finna get Toji’d again by Tusk Act 4 bruh

[@MAAELXD]

Johnny isn't faster than light. Sbr's The World is owned by a human version of Dio, while sdc's one is the one of a vampire, wich greatly surpasses humanity's limitations, so that main Dio can stop time for 9 seconds, while Diego can only for 5.

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

jotaro is human and he moves faster than light, even when nerfed

[@ExistingHi]

Gojo watching a cripple shoot him in the chest and then appear out of his left nipple ( A entire fridge came along too ):

[@Nivilton_Plays]

Johnny can walk in the end of steel ball

[@ExistingHi]

@@Nivilton_Plays Still slams regardles ( funnier when its joe swatsons blonde twink jjba counterpart. )

[@Nivilton_Plays]

@@ExistingHi I only mentioned he can walk

[@ExistingHi]

@@Nivilton_Plays cewl.

[@drakeross4776]

Johnny is ripping gojo’s infinity open like a bag of chips 😭🙏

[@sapphicjade6375]

even if he does that bro still has reverse curse technique to undo the attacks Generously assuming johnny has the infinite rotational energy from his horse to even use act 4 Gojo just needs to use 1 red and it's over

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

@@sapphicjade6375 rct is not doing shit against infinite spin. Whats he gonna do? heal back infinity? he barely had enough energy to keep fighting after using rct a few times against sukuna and its stated gojo can't use rct or domain too much or he will run out of energy. Whats he gonna do? rct infinitely and deplete all his energy?

[@hardrnova2912]

@@sapphicjade6375act 4 went through a barrier of infinite dimensions gojo’s infinity is only a barrier of infinite space he’s getting turned into spaghetti and the speed blitz domain argument doesn’t really work since tusk act 4 is sentient and acts without its user he’s still getting hit regardless

[@sapphicjade6375]

@@hardrnova2912 johnny when gojo fires a reversal red at him before he can even think about summoning act 4:

[@sapphicjade6375]

@@isaacphangyunjierosythsch undo the infinite spin lol

[@Novel_Kars_mq123-q]

what closer? Johnny joestar’s test tickle torrision negs fraudjo

[@nehemiahmaxsimus3122]

Gojo when a kid on his horse uses his imaginary friend to kill him see gojo needs to see tusk to use Infinity so he can't use Infinity agent tusk the only Thang gojo will see is Jonny shoting himself and he disappeared so Jonny solos

[@sapphicjade6375]

gojo can sense johnnys cursed energy so he would know where he went

[@alexi9847]

johnny would grape gojo, this fight would not be close at all 😭

[@politarl]

😂

[@DublajcıMeic]

Bro gojo can't even see tusk becouse gojo isn't stand user

[@MarioCashy]

nah tusk not the strongest but he up there

[@MRForca]

im not saying he is the strongest. I said he is considered the stongest by the comm.

[@georgegobin1839]

When It comes to "Raw Power" Tusk Is The Strongest Stand In JoJo but from a Power Scaleng, Hax, and "Logical" Perspective Wonder Of U should honestly be the Strongest Stand In JoJo. Even if Gappy took down Wonder Of U he still needed outside help and even some plot armor to take down WOU. In my opinion Wonder Of U would take down Gappy no problem in a 1v1 and WOU is still an overall Stronger Stand..... but this is just my opinion!😅

[@MarioCashy]

@@georgegobin1839 who do u think wins between WOU and D4C Love train tho ??

[@MarioCashy]

@@georgegobin1839 and nah i think in terms of raw strength it'll be Star-P bcuz remember tusk progressively got stronger just like Echoes

[@georgegobin1839]

​@@MarioCashy Very interesting Debate but Wonder Of U should have the Edge in my opinion!😅 My reasoning!: In the Flashback of Johnny Jostar Death we Saw that The Flow Of Calamity not only manipulated The Corpse Parts but also basically made Johnny Jostar blow his own head off with his own Stand Ability! So "Logicely WOU should scale above both Love Train and Tusk Act 4 simply because they follow logic and can't overcome logic so from a power scaling perspective "The Flow Of Calamity" should still work/bypass D4C Love-Train. Also all of Funny Valintine Abilitys follow logic so the Flow Of Calamity should simply prvent Funny Valintine from using Abilitys and making WOU untouchable. On Paper D4C sounds like a perfect counter to protect yourself from WOU but it's not because not only are you bing Attacked by Calamity but also by logic it self so basically anything that can go wrong will go wrong and the Flow Of Calamity will eventually find a way to kill Funny Valintine. Funny Valentine Scaling: High 4D Wonder Of U Scaling: 5D Wonder Of U should win but all of this is just my opinion!😅👍

[@EditsAnimations]

You cant compare Yukis black hole to Gojo, it's just dumb to do that. Yukis attack was a LAST resort and it was being held back by Yuki and Tengen, Yuki most likely made a binding vow in order to use that attack in the first place

[@arkkon2740]

In general her CT doesnt scale to herself in the first place, at least speed wise She can throw things at mach 5 because she put a lot of momentum and energy into an object, but that doesnt mean Yuki herself is Mach 5 If she made a black hole, died to the black hole, and had the black hole dissipated off screen by a non-speed ability, none of that tracks to speed in the slightest

[@EditsAnimations]

@@arkkon2740 Basically Kumagawa without All fiction or book maker

[@Troypal_._]

you dont need to use tw speed scaling you coulda got him higher just based off the fact his nales are able to to pierce and catch up to love train which is stated to be a infinite barrier of light

[@juanhaines7295]

Johnny needs his horse to use act 4 while gojo can bust out his ultimate technique hollow purple at any time. As much as love Johnny he isn't winning.

[@MRForca]

Johnny doesn't need the horse anymore. He just pulled it out when he was in the boat in the end of the series

[@juanhaines7295]

Then why was he shown using a horse in the flash backs of jojolion? Because he was on one when he used act 4 to save his son.

[@MRForca]

@@juanhaines7295 I don't know what to tell you bro. We see him use it on a boat in the end of part 7.

[@franciscoevora5973]

Johnny learns to mimic the movements of the horse with his legs so after sbr he can use act 4 at will

[@mr.smarty7138]

@@MRForca naah brah

[@ObeliskKing]

It just depends who does what first. Gojo opens domain IMMEDIATELY? Gojo sweeps. Johnny does infinite rotation? Johnny sweeps.

[@GallfTHEBOY]

johnny is like way faster than gojo though so even if he tries to do a domain johnny would just do rotation faster

[@ObeliskKing]

@@GallfTHEBOY But the process of riding the horse, getting to up speed, and the spinning and firing of the nail all require time to do. Compare that to a simple handsign and "Domain Expansion." That's why I say, it'll depend on who does it first.

[@HafizWahab-x9d]

End Of The Day We're All Biased💀🙏 -Someone Smart???

[@nejcgrandovec6463]

gojo uses 0.2 second domain and explodes the already snail speed johnny

[@zeanone9257]

4:10 your answer

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

tusk act 3 be like : these ppl be forgetting that tusk act 4 isnt the only thing he has. He still has wormholes, dimensional manipulation, basically invulnerability, low range teleportation etc.

[@Tusk_act4.0]

Im not biased but pink fridge solos everyone

[@MistyMister]

infinity vs infinity

[@tooru-7296]

They Both Don't Have Enough Drip To Touch This!😏 Kono Tooru da! Now your guts I will be spilling When I turn my back on ya There's a consequence Got the guts to pursue?

[@MRForca]

Lmao

[@Arizashi]

It's the world that you're against That's the wonder of U 😈

[@georgegobin1839]

​​@@Arizashi See the flow is a calamity Chasing me's insanity Stub your toe and you know I won't be giving bandaging! Trust me, I'm a real doc This'll sting like a wasp When I get my main Yasuho Back on lock!😎

[@StummyTicklePickle]

johnny slams lol. This is like comparing a hydrolic bomb to a coughing baby😭😭

[@JAB_Gaming-uj8pc]

johhny can just infinite spin anything and then one tap him with golden rectangle thingy

[@ElysiumFields306]

Yuta has more cursed energy than Gojo, but Gojo has the six eyes. Yuta doesnt have inf cursed energy, just a ton. And Gojo uses the six eyes to use barely any CE when using techniques.

[@ElysiumFields306]

@confusion_rblx Bro ain't a liar fr 🙏

[@TomasBregman]

Both can one shot each other. However Johnny is probably faster but Johnny needs to be on a horse to activate act four so he loses.

[@MRForca]

he doesn't need to be on a horse anymore

[@r3voi254]

He just needs a horse before the battle to activate inf spin once, and then he wont need the horse any more

[@broccieboi]

Gojo is really fast and strong without infinity. Without prep he would probably act cocky and try to take a hit not knowing about act 4 but if he does know about act 4, he would probably overwhelm johnny with attacks and kill him

[@AdamThomas-vf4op]

act 4 can just rip infinity

[@jernmp]

gojo when he notices a funny black hole on his hand then seeing johnny’s hand coming out

[@Mrblue..b]

Tusk isn't the strongest stand

[@MRForca]

Alot of people within the jojos community thinks so. I personally don't but iam simply giving my opinion on this versus battle.

[@Mrblue..b]

@@MRForca wonder of u soft and wet go beyond the world over heaven before the last part was fully out mabye but recently nope video is good tho

[@jishamuralidharan7020]

​@@MRForcawe need a scaling vid on King (opm) vs Hey ya (jojo part 7) The battle of luck😂

[@Rubberyball]

have yall forgot that Johnny can run now

[@r3voi254]

Fr, at the end of the series he learners how to walk again, ez win for johnny

[@idkanymore1282]

Johnny Easily solos Gojo because of Gojos pretty face. I am not even kidding gojo is so pretty that johnny can find the golden ration in his face im not joking this is true therefore johnny can easily activate task act four which bypassess infinity

[@Mrstireast]

The golden rectangle is what activates tusk act 2 and mastery of it activates tusk act 3. To get act four Johnny needs a horse to go at its natural movement and then combine act 3’s activation.

[@idkanymore1282]

@@Mrstireast OHH YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

[@DawnAfternoon]

the fact that gojo's face is so perfect it makes a fucking golden ratio for johnny to use sent me laughing way more than it needed to

[@SupersuitWheresupersuit]

Gojo vs Anubis.

[@Trackid_mogger]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby (gojo is the baby)

[@yeahironoumen9283]

Green baby solos all anime character

[@jujutsuKaisenIsTheWorstNewGen]

It's not closer than you think Johnny and verse neg diff so delete this

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

So people say Gojo loses to WoU because it wouldn't allow him to prepare a purple or use his domain. But somehow Gojo can't just open his domain and win instantly here before Johnny even lifts a finger 🤣. Unless you assume Tusk still works automatically even when Johnny is turned into a vegetable, Gojo uses his domain and hits Johnny first 10/10 times. Still a Gojo W either way because Johnny loses first

[@AdamThomas-vf4op]

1 jonny has no ce 2 tusk can attack on his own

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

tusk act 3 be like : unless you are telling me gojo can attack between dimensions

[@rafrafrafraf9953]

Do you think that you gonna ever start scaling up pop culture as a whole not just JoJo and if the answer is "yes" than I can give you a fresh start Luz(the owl house) vs Anne(amphibia) not even close What you say? because we need more scalers of pop culture because it shown several times that death battle isn't really the Best at it

[@MRForca]

I got like 2 vids im gonna upload right this week hopefully. But i will try to scale both characters for you.

[@rafrafrafraf9953]

@@MRForca I can help you with that, since I personally scaled them

[@MRForca]

@@rafrafrafraf9953 Bet. my discord @ is Jaq#0001

[@Emily12471]

Well i feel that this comes down to if Gojo's infinity is a barrier, because if not johnny is Shit out of luck

[@MRForca]

True

[@terrorsDomain]

It Ignores All Hax Except Possibly Reality Manipulation But EOH Is Not Canon.@@MRForca

[@lazyvoid7107]

Actually it's a barrier

[@sneakykitsune6]

*rips open infinity like dorito bag*

[@kthegoat2926]

Heat

[@MRForca]

You gon make me act up. Better calm your ass down

[@kthegoat2926]

@@MRForca 😭

[@mr.smarty7138]

????

[@georgegobin1839]

Not Gonna Lie....it was like 96 Degrees At My Job Today!😭☠️

[@MRForca]

@@georgegobin1839 Lmao

[@wilyt1147]

En Español porfavor

[@mrbrikcs]

Ste men

[@yizehiew1506]

Gojo can use unlimited voids in domain expension n let johny can't move n think

[@lazyvoid7107]

But Tusk act 4 can move without the user

[@luigigx1172]

@@lazyvoid7107that what I was thinking.

[@midnightbat344]

​@@luigigx1172he cant that the thing remember when dio use time stop and was going to touch the arm but did why didnt tusk attack him why he just stand there only make sound

[@jugglenaut1955]

@@midnightbat344 Because people love overhyping Tusk. His infinite rotation remains active due to gravity, not speed, and is only capable of twitching at best.

[@midnightbat344]

@@jugglenaut1955 it not bc the user cant move in timestop only the stand is infinity

[@massiahrobinson7489]

This is nowhere near a close fight u overwanking gojo entirely

[@RushedToma]

Imma have to say cap. TA4 bullets are not fast,they are comparable to a 1800 gun as said in the manga. Unless gojo stands there and gets shot he is not getting hit. Part 7 stands are all haxs and thats it. Diego with Scary Monsters is the fastest character and not even light speed (Diego Speedblitz Valetine)

[@MRForca]

i've been saying that for years now bud. I said in hte video if johnnys bullet does hit gojo he will force open the infinity. But the speed is garbage

[@RushedToma]

@jaqcole yea that's true but it's really for all the part 7 fans who think the characters have MFTL speed and stuff and amazing durability. I mean they got amazing endurance but yea.

[@nicolasleal5644]

​​@@MRForcaonce fired the whole inf rotation goes in a singular trajectory infinitely. Meaning once fired it is guaranteed to hit the target without fail, no matter where you escape to. It's like the old problem with a immortal snail that follows you and once you touch it you die also making you immortal until you do touch it. Once gojo gets shot at its already to late, he activates his domain and it would just be a shorter version of valentines fight without dimension traveling. Even if the user died infinite rotation can't be avoided once he shot it as it becomes detached from the user. That's why it would win against GER as well because of its detachment from the user after fired. It's like a line that goes infinitely in either direction the moment it is fired. Gojo loses weather he kills Johnny or not, and even if it does "miss" it can just track him anyways when it turns into a bullet hole In the ground and move onto gojo. Gojos cool and all but he is dealing with a ability that counters him in every way. He can't even speed blitz him either because tusk will defend and since act 4 is made of raw infinite energy, he will immediately experience the effects of infinite rotation upon contact with tusk act 4.

[@Mrstireast]

Isn’t that just a statement act 1 though? I would assume the speed scales up throughout the acts no?

[@MRForca]

@@Mrstireast just evolutions of shots and more abilities. He gains broken abilities throughout the fight

[@ducduongnguyen8076]

Nah 😂 Johnny easy win The nail bypass inf dimension and timestop what Gojo infinity just can't slow the nail down or block it at all

[@CrocketGoesBoom]

deamn johny is using hacks

[@MrCraftyScales]

I disagree, and u low balled both characters

[@MRForca]

They're both on that level

[@MrCraftyScales]

@@MRForca no there both higher

[@nextcyber7197]

​@@MrCraftyScalesbruh he mad

[@MrCraftyScales]

@@nextcyber7197 no lol how?

[@r3voi254]

But their at similar levels the diference is johnny at the end learns how to use inf spin without the horse and can use his legs

[@bestofreindo-c3o]

Jonny wins no diff