Johnny Thunders - ANN ARBOR, MI, 1981 Pt.1

[@michaelvolgare7912]

This was a great show, I traveled with Tony (who I grew up with), Walter and Billy from NY to the gig. This is when John was living in Michigan (his wife was from there). Notice the Flying V guitar John was playing, his guitar was in the pawn shop.

[@DoeCavalera]

Michael Volgare Truly a great night for Johnny and Co. Big Tony was just the sweetest guy... he's missed.

[@tommysdirtandsoultommytheh1569]

@Michael Volgare, I know this is 3 years old but I just came across it as well as other video's with Tony Coiro. I too knew Tony and hung around at times with his younger brother Emil as I was closer to his age I think (I'm 60). I also, sometimes, hung around their apt building courtyard or triangle park by the Crossbronx since I had friends there. I followed Tony when he played with Mike Pardo and Straight Edge back around late 70's. Tony introduced me to a couple of the Ramones at Max's Kansas City once. Great to see him here in these videos and to know he did well musically. Sad loss. I was so sorry to hear.

[@DoeCavalera]

great version of London Boys! So Alone, Junky Biz (Waldo!)Killer show all around, the band and Johnny are just KILLER! Thank you so much!

[@patrickguitar8676]

Nice...michigan...didn't know johnny lived there...he got around...

[@chrisghiardi117]

I guess this is at the Chance? In the spring of 1980 Thunders played the Star Bar. Set featured Johnny sticking the guitar headstock up into the suspended acoustic tile ceiling, knocking out a tile or two, and finally grabbing the metal supports and yanking down a fair portion of the ceiling.

[@markwasthere]

very nice copy of this show, i have never seen a really clear one. one of my favorite live versions of so alone

[@rickweber7734]

~~a Heartbreaker who got his heart broken..so alone..

[@DwAeNiNsYs]

please post part 2 !

[@sxdxsxrecordings615]

I F#ck1ng L0ve This Show!Great music

[@hershoreline]

this is really cool. thanks

[@grindhasses2]

Really Nice Upload,Thanks!,is there a Part 2?.....I Hope

[@coldironhands1]

Nice, thanks for the comment.

[@alexandervoog9396]

Drummer has an LAMF tee shirt on... i saw him /them right in this time box for the first time. RUINED FOREVA.....PUNX NOT DAID!!!!

[@MrGiorgioud]

Johnny had just been dumped by his wife Julie, who wanted to clean up, so she run off with a college student of the area (Ann Harbour, Michigan), and she took the kids with her (Vito, Dino and John Jr., who wasn't Johnny's son). She went on.to have six other kids (by different fathers), but Johnny was very despondent, understandably. He never saw the kids again, except for sporadic quick stop-over ten-minute visits some Christmas or other when he was touring in.the area where they were living and wanted to drop some presents for the boys. He always missed them, as well as the daughter he had later on (Jamie). That was the contributing factor for his inability to kick smack. And who could blame him? It must have hurt too much....this is for who was wondering about the monologue before and during "So alone"...

[@MrGiorgioud]

@Anderson Cooper it is really difficult to say, because there are no official statements about the demise of Gang War. But you are right, Wayne Kramer has always been full of animosity tempered by humour (kind of “I can’t believe that really happened”) about Johnny Thunders. And I think with good reason. I don’t think he relapsed into smack, at least not by getting bogged down again with it. It must have taken him every ounce of will not to do it again. Especially with a heavy user like Johnny. You know the story of Johnny stealing all the receipts for the club’s intake for the night. Yah, that was foolish and dangerous and it could have landed them all in the slammer. But I think that Wayne’s animosity stems from something simpler: they had a really magic band: two guitar legends who had kickstarted Punk, a rhythm section tight and versatile, so many classics written in a short time (as the studio demos testify), they could have could have been on the way of getting that elusive major record deal, and Johnny just blew it like everyone told him he would. I think Wayne got tired. Of course, it would be interesting to hear Johnny’s side of the story, but unfortunately that is not possible. It is a chapter or rock history that has been unexplored, and it is a shame because it is interesting in a saga-like way, like anything relating to Johnny Thunders. Some music journalist of the old guard should write an extensive article about it, with a lot of research, interviewing Wayne, Julie Jordan, Thunders’ then-manager, the notorious Brim Stone, Ron Cooke and John Morgan, respectively the great bassist and drummer of Gang War, and all the peripheral characters....you know, make it a really long article and finally shed some light on this great what-could-have-been band.....

[@MrGiorgioud]

@Anderson Cooper you are right again: Wayne relapsed when Gang War moved from Ann Harbour to New York. I went and dug a little deeper. Johnny also fucked up Gang War because thee was a deal on the table from a Dutch record label that was offering 40.000 dollars for recording an album. Johnny, unbeknownst to the others, tried to turn it into a Johnny Thunders project. Wayne and the boys weren’t amused, understandably: it was a really shitty thing to do, so they called it quits. They understood that if Thunders kept behaving in such a manner, they weren’t going to go anywhere. Wayne subsequently worked as a carpenter. A gross obscenity that so-called “guitarists” without a one-thousandth of his talent were making lots of money and he, the great Wayne Kramer, had to get a straight job to make ends meet. So unjust and unfair, a travesty. But there you go. Nowadays he seems to be reconciled with his past and seems serene. The fact that he is continuously mentioned as a massive influence by anybody who is a prime mover must have helped: I mean, it is not Oasis’ guitarist that talks about how great Wayne is: it is people like The White Stripes...

[@patrickguitar8676]

11:39 whirling dervish

[@ot92s]

Johnny not on a les paul....weirrrrrrrddd. But a treat!

[@BAMAVADER]

I see Walter...who is the bass player and drummer?

[@hwb-zalpach]

where is the rest?

[@anttikoponen9647]

I have one hour version of this show, it originally comes from the VHS-tape, obviously. Don't remember what quality, but I will have to check 🙃

[@hwb-zalpach]

@@anttikoponen9647 please !

[@ultra288]

I guess Wayne Kramer got the last laugh

[@jerrymerritt5698]

Whos wayne Kramer?

[@garycallaghan1950]

@@jerrymerritt5698 you serious?

[@garycallaghan1950]

Plays with the MC5, Unreal guitarist. Played with the Heartbreakers to.

[@keithglimmer4505]

He played with the heartbreakers? Kramer and JT were together in gang war but I didn't know Kramer played with the heartbreakers..

[@nanchanger]

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